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| zul | gday | 13:54 |
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| smoser | (o | 13:55 |
| sommer | yo | 13:55 |
| kirkland` | o/ | 13:59 |
| mathiaz | /o | 14:01 |
| zul | is ttx running the meeting? | 14:03 |
| hggdh | ~o~ | 14:04 |
| ttx | hm | 14:06 |
| ttx | sorry for being late | 14:06 |
| ttx | busy triaging sdamba bugs for our marvelous Bugzapping bugday | 14:06 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 14:06 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 08:06. The chair is ttx. | 14:06 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 14:06 |
| * jjohansen fades in | 14:07 | |
| ttx | Agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 14:07 |
| ttx | jib is on a plane somewhere, so I'll chair. zul is our scribe today | 14:07 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 14:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 14:07 |
| ttx | * mathiaz to sync up with cjwatson re: ubuntu-server upload team | 14:07 |
| mathiaz | ttx: not done | 14:08 |
| ttx | [ACTION] mathiaz to sync up with cjwatson re: ubuntu-server upload team | 14:08 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: mathiaz to sync up with cjwatson re: ubuntu-server upload team | 14:08 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Beta1 status review | 14:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Beta1 status review | 14:08 |
| ttx | Beta1Freeze is tomorrow... Only beta1-targeted bugs will be accepted, which doesn't prevent you from queueing less important bugs | 14:09 |
| ttx | That should affect several specs | 14:09 |
| ttx | eucalyptus-merging-and-packaging: we might want to target extra bugfixes (currently only the upgrade stuff is targeted) | 14:10 |
| kirkland` | ttx: i have a qemu-kvm upload coming | 14:10 |
| ttx | kirkland`: we'll review the list before I leave for vacation | 14:10 |
| kirkland` | ttx: okay | 14:10 |
| ttx | apt-mirror/ec2: this should be delivbered without image changes, by reusing the current DNS setup | 14:11 |
| === kirkland` is now known as kirkland | ||
| ttx | papercuts, bugzapping, puppet-testsuite: fixes of lesser importance should be queued for post beta1freeze | 14:11 |
| ttx | Beta1-targeted bugs : | 14:11 |
| ttx | bug 499389 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 499389 in bacula "karmic->lucid auto-ugprade test failure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499389 | 14:12 |
| ttx | zul: you're on it ? | 14:12 |
| zul | worked on that last night im just want to talk to mvo about it | 14:12 |
| ttx | ok. | 14:12 |
| ttx | bug 526480 -- still pending MIR team review | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 526480 in liblog-log4perl-perl "[MIR] liblog-log4perl-perl" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526480 | 14:12 |
| ttx | bug 519513 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 519513 in eucalyptus "UEC upgrade from 9.10 karmic to Lucid fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519513 | 14:12 |
| ttx | kirkland: looking good ? | 14:13 |
| kirkland | ttx: i think so | 14:14 |
| kirkland | ttx: working on it today | 14:14 |
| kirkland | ttx: should have something by EoW | 14:14 |
| ttx | kirkland: cool ! | 14:14 |
| ttx | Questions/comments on Beta1 ? | 14:15 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 14:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 14:15 |
| ttx | hggdh: hi ! | 14:16 |
| ttx | hggdh: around ? | 14:16 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: are you done with the UEC testing with the DC hardware? | 14:16 |
| ttx | ok, let's do kernel forst | 14:17 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) | 14:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) | 14:17 |
| ttx | jjohansen: hi ! | 14:17 |
| jjohansen | hi | 14:17 |
| jjohansen | so we still have Bug #527208 outstanding | 14:17 |
| ttx | whats'up in the lower rings ? | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 527208 in linux-ec2 "ec2 instance fails boot, no console output on c1.xlarge" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527208 | 14:17 |
| jjohansen | it won't make beta1 as the kernel closed monday | 14:18 |
| hggdh | ttx, I am here -- looking at logs | 14:18 |
| ttx | hggdh: we'll come back to you in a few | 14:18 |
| ttx | we also have https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/531823 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 531823 in linux "[lucid] All linux guests oops in kvm_leave_lazy_mmu during boot (9.04, 9.10, 10.04)" [High,In progress] | 14:18 |
| ttx | will we have a workaround for this one soon, or after beta 1 ? | 14:19 |
| jjohansen | for the Lucid or Karmic bug? | 14:19 |
| ttx | jjohansen: lucid ? | 14:20 |
| jjohansen | Soon I hope | 14:20 |
| ttx | but with kernel frozen that will be post-beta 1 ? | 14:20 |
| jjohansen | correct | 14:21 |
| ttx | jjohansen: ok, maybe comment and update milestone to reflect that | 14:21 |
| ttx | anything else for kernel ? | 14:21 |
| jjohansen | yes | 14:21 |
| ttx | back to... | 14:22 |
| jjohansen | we had a late conflict ridden rebase for the EC2 kernel, so keep your eyes out for new bugs | 14:22 |
| mathiaz | jjohansen: IIUC the vlan-modules udeb should be available in beta1? | 14:22 |
| jjohansen | mathiaz: yeah | 14:22 |
| mathiaz | jjohansen: great - thanks | 14:22 |
| ttx | smoser: ^ ec2 kernel rebase | 14:23 |
| smoser | i see. | 14:23 |
| ttx | ok, back to... | 14:23 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 14:23 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 14:23 |
| ttx | hggdh: hi :) | 14:23 |
| hggdh | hi | 14:23 |
| ttx | what's up ? | 14:23 |
| hggdh | we have now atlas failing on the regression PPA. I do not understand the error:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/392548/ | 14:24 |
| hggdh | ans MySQL is still failing | 14:24 |
| hggdh | I have a question: is coreutils server, or core? | 14:24 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: why is atlas regression tested? | 14:25 |
| ttx | probably foundations land, mathiaz could confirm | 14:25 |
| zul | what is atlas btw? | 14:25 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: coreutils is fondation IMO | 14:25 |
| hggdh | mathiaz: I do not know why atlas, it was already there | 14:25 |
| ttx | hggdh: ask soren about it when you get a chance | 14:26 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: well - it's in universe and I'm not sure it's server related | 14:26 |
| mathiaz | zul: atlas - Automatically Tuned Linear Algebra Software | 14:26 |
| ttx | zul/mathiaz: mysql is still blocking on the certificate ? | 14:26 |
| ttx | who can fix that ? | 14:27 |
| mathiaz | ttx: I'd have to look at the logs | 14:27 |
| hggdh | even more it states it is related to numerical software... | 14:27 |
| hggdh | will ask Soren | 14:27 |
| zul | ttx: i have a fix but its failing somewhere else now | 14:27 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: IIUC it's 5.0 that fails | 14:27 |
| ttx | zul: you're on it ? | 14:27 |
| hggdh | mathiaz: mysql-dfsg-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.83-0ubuntu3 | 14:28 |
| zul | ttx: yeah ill take some time to look at it agian | 14:28 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: 5.0 is scheduled to be removed from the archive in lucid | 14:28 |
| ttx | mathiaz: you mean we shouldn't care ? | 14:28 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: so there is not point in regression testing 5.0 in lucid | 14:28 |
| ttx | looks like the contents of the regression rig needs to be updated | 14:29 |
| hggdh | sounds like it | 14:29 |
| hggdh | suggestions welcome | 14:29 |
| ttx | [ACTION] hggdh to remove mysql5.0 and question atlas in the build regression test rig | 14:29 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: hggdh to remove mysql5.0 and question atlas in the build regression test rig | 14:29 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: is there a list of packages being published? | 14:29 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: and is there a summary of the build failure (and since when)? | 14:29 |
| hggdh | mathiaz: yet unknown for first Q, yes, for second. At least I receive emails on the failures | 14:30 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: IMO there isn't much visibility on what is done in the regression testing PPA | 14:30 |
| ttx | hggdh: try to see inside the QA team how you want to handle that, not sure sharing soren's rig is the best way going forward | 14:31 |
| hggdh | I will look at it now. So far I just left it running (and did not worry) | 14:31 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: I don't know what's is tested and get notified only when there are build failures | 14:31 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: right - at least there is something in place | 14:31 |
| ttx | hggdh: did you start looking into the UEC test rig ? | 14:31 |
| hggdh | so we need to revisit it | 14:31 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: and it's been useful so far IMO | 14:32 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: the process may need to be reviewed at next UDS | 14:32 |
| hggdh | ttx: no really. kirkland gave me some links to look at, but suggested to wait for the current tests to end | 14:32 |
| ttx | hggdh: ok | 14:32 |
| ttx | anything else for the QA team ? | 14:32 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: right - once kirkland is done, I'll give you an overview of the beast | 14:33 |
| hggdh | not right now | 14:33 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: hggdh: i'm done now! | 14:33 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it's all yours | 14:33 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Euca2ools/Boto 1.9 test coverage | 14:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Euca2ools/Boto 1.9 test coverage | 14:33 |
| mathiaz | hggdh: ^^ - ok we should sync up later after the meeting then | 14:33 |
| hggdh | mathiaz: roj | 14:34 |
| ttx | Background: we run our euca2ools with boto 1.9 while upstream tests with boto 1.8 | 14:34 |
| ttx | We also tend to run always the same basic set of commands (I know I do) | 14:34 |
| ttx | so in order to get confidence that lesser-used commands are working, I prepared a test coverage page | 14:35 |
| ttx | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Boto19TestCoverage | 14:35 |
| ttx | When you use a euca2ools command succesfully, please update that page. | 14:35 |
| ttx | For the mre complex commands, the idea is to test the optional parameters as well, which will take more time | 14:35 |
| ttx | I know smoser has been running quite a few of those already, we just need to make sure we cover them all. | 14:36 |
| ttx | questions ? | 14:36 |
| ttx | (this will probably be a beta2 target) | 14:37 |
| smoser | and, please, when you find something broken, open a bug | 14:37 |
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| smoser | and copy me, its probably easily fixed, but not if we dont' know about it. | 14:37 |
| ttx | bonus points if you can check if the bug also exists with boto 1.8 | 14:37 |
| ttx | smoser: any way to easily test with boto 1.8 ? | 14:37 |
| smoser | which is, actually easy to do. i will post instructions on how. | 14:38 |
| ttx | smoser: ok, just update the wikipage | 14:38 |
| smoser | yes | 14:38 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Server Papercuts | 14:38 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server Papercuts | 14:38 |
| ttx | Status for beta-1 : https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/lucid-beta-1 | 14:38 |
| ttx | 4 bugs still open from a total of 14 | 14:38 |
| ttx | Please feel free to fix what you can, especially before Beta1Freeze | 14:39 |
| ttx | No nominations this week, which is quite disappointing | 14:39 |
| ttx | maybe some more blogging needs to be done about it | 14:40 |
| ttx | i can't beleieve we identified all the pain points | 14:40 |
| ttx | We only have 5 targets for beta2, so 9 more should be identified | 14:40 |
| ttx | Comments ? | 14:41 |
| zul | maybe blog about it a bit more | 14:41 |
| ttx | [ACTION] ttx to blog about the beta-1 campaign so far, to trigger new candidates | 14:42 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ttx to blog about the beta-1 campaign so far, to trigger new candidates | 14:42 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Bugzapping status (kirkland) | 14:42 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Bugzapping status (kirkland) | 14:42 |
| ttx | kirkland: quick status ? Samba started today. | 14:42 |
| mathiaz | ttx: aha - that explains the sudden increase in samba related bug mail | 14:42 |
| kirkland | ttx: i think it went well so far | 14:43 |
| zul | mathiaz: its not just me ;) | 14:43 |
| kirkland | ttx: qemu-kvm's bugs cut in half | 14:43 |
| ttx | kirkland: is there anything planned for next week already ? | 14:43 |
| kirkland | ttx: and i'm a lot more confident in our qemu-kvm offering now | 14:43 |
| kirkland | ttx: not planned, no ... i could lead a libvirt one, i suppose | 14:43 |
| kirkland | ttx: but i'd be happy to see someone else lead one too | 14:43 |
| kirkland | s/too/instead/g | 14:43 |
| ttx | For those interested, we are running a two-day samba bugzapping effort... Today is bugtriage day, in #ubuntu-bugs with the QA team | 14:44 |
| ttx | (combined with a bugday, which proves very fruitful) | 14:44 |
| ttx | At the end of today we should have bugfixing targets for tomorrow. | 14:44 |
| kirkland | ttx: week after next is eucalyptus/euca2ools | 14:44 |
| ttx | We'll coordinate bugfixing tomorrow in #ubuntu-server | 14:45 |
| mathiaz | and there is a mysql one scheduled as well | 14:45 |
| ttx | mathiaz: when is it ? | 14:45 |
| mathiaz | ttx: week of April 1st | 14:45 |
| mathiaz | ttx: just before Beta2 freeze | 14:45 |
| ttx | sounds like a bad joke. | 14:45 |
| ttx | anything else on the bugzapping subject ? | 14:46 |
| mathiaz | ttx: :) it's gonna be the last days of March | 14:46 |
| kirkland | not from me | 14:46 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Server documentation status (ttx, sommer) | 14:46 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server documentation status (ttx, sommer) | 14:46 |
| kirkland | well, thanks to all who have participated | 14:46 |
| mathiaz | ttx: nothing on the 1st of April (it's BetaFreeze2 actually) | 14:46 |
| ttx | I wanted to get a current status on the server documentation | 14:46 |
| ttx | sommer: around ? | 14:46 |
| ttx | I identified a few outdated things in the current guide | 14:47 |
| ttx | was wondering if help was needed to fix it | 14:47 |
| ttx | example: it talks about screen-profiles, likewise-open5 | 14:47 |
| ttx | requirements look like they need a refresh | 14:47 |
| ttx | UEC is absent | 14:47 |
| ttx | See http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ | 14:48 |
| ttx | OK, I'll sync with sommer by email on the subject -- feel free to chime in with the outdated stuff you find | 14:49 |
| kirkland | ttx: i'll gladly update the screen-profiles -> byobu bits | 14:49 |
| ttx | [ACTIOn] ttx to bring up status of server doc in an email thread | 14:49 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ttx to bring up status of server doc in an email thread | 14:49 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Server team upload rights (Daviey, mathiaz) | 14:50 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server team upload rights (Daviey, mathiaz) | 14:50 |
| ttx | mathiaz: delayed to next week ? | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | ttx: yes | 14:50 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (mathiaz) | 14:50 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (mathiaz) | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | so I cleaned up the nominations lists | 14:50 |
| mathiaz | there are two nominations for karmic: | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | bug 530945 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 530945 in keepalived "[SRU] keepalived in karmic" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530945 | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | bug 34181 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 34181 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "locale and charset problem in mysql - default character set should be set to utf8" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34181 | 14:51 |
| mathiaz | I'm going to decline the latter | 14:52 |
| ttx | yes | 14:52 |
| ttx | I'd tend to accept the nomination for the first one | 14:52 |
| ttx | Andres knows what he is doing :) | 14:52 |
| ttx | He will probably push the SRU through | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | ok - karmic bugs processed | 14:53 |
| zul | we might want 182572 in hardy | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html | 14:53 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | anything worth ^^ in there | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | bug 182572 | 14:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 182572 in server-papercuts "Samba Fails to Split GECOS on Comma" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182572 | 14:54 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anything SRU worthy that came out of the qemu bug zap? | 14:54 |
| ttx | zul: it's ostly cosmetic | 14:54 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i don't think so | 14:54 |
| ttx | nothing from me | 14:55 |
| mathiaz | allright then | 14:55 |
| mathiaz | that's all for the SRU review | 14:55 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Open Discussion | 14:55 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open Discussion | 14:55 |
| zul | php 5.3.1 is mostly done | 14:56 |
| hggdh | this is the current list of packages being regression-tested (from Soren): | 14:56 |
| zul | debian has 5.3.2 which fixes a couple of issues with things like mediawiki | 14:56 |
| Daviey | zul: 5.3.2 bug fix only release didn't seem like a good idea? | 14:56 |
| Daviey | bah, too slow | 14:56 |
| zul | Daviey: im thniking of it for beta2 | 14:57 |
| ttx | smoser: help needed testing EBS root ? | 14:57 |
| smoser | anyone who wants to start an EBS root volume and kick it a bit is my friend | 14:57 |
| smoser | and will be awarded a or other beverage if they tell me their experiences | 14:57 |
| zul | as in kick it when its down? ;) | 14:57 |
| mathiaz | smoser: is the information on which EBS volume to test available somewhere? | 14:58 |
| hggdh | packages = libvirt postgresql 8.3 and 8.4, mysql 5.0, openldap, php5, python2.6, and atlas | 14:58 |
| smoser | mathiaz, just in my email to the list at the moment. | 14:58 |
| smoser | to multiple lists | 14:58 |
| smoser | hold on, let me dig url | 14:58 |
| mathiaz | and I'd also like to congratulate the whole team for the New,Undecided daily bug triagging | 14:58 |
| mathiaz | the whole backlog has been processed last week | 14:58 |
| smoser | http://groups.google.com/group/ec2ubuntu/browse_thread/thread/a7fdc6f714f71085/5efd475e9e536a9f?lnk=gst&q=ebs+root#5efd475e9e536a9f | 14:59 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://groups.google.com/group/ec2ubuntu/browse_thread/thread/a7fdc6f714f71085/5efd475e9e536a9f?lnk=gst&q=ebs+root#5efd475e9e536a9f | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | so congrats to all! | 14:59 |
| * ttx highfives with all the team | 14:59 | |
| mathiaz | now we should just stay on cruise control | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | so make sure to review the list on your assigned day | 14:59 |
| ttx | ok | 14:59 |
| kirkland | \o/ | 14:59 |
| ttx | [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time | 15:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time | 15:00 |
| ttx | Next week, same time, same place | 15:00 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 09:00. | 15:00 |
| lool | heya | 16:00 |
| barry | hi everybody. welcome to this week's foundations team meeting | 16:00 |
| barry | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is barry. | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:00 |
| tremolux | hey! | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | hi | 16:00 |
| ev | hello | 16:01 |
| * slangasek waves | 16:01 | |
| barry | it's my first time chairing, so let me know if i forget anything :) | 16:01 |
| Keybuk | the donuts | 16:01 |
| doko | hi | 16:01 |
| ev | fatty | 16:01 |
| barry | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0310 | 16:01 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Meetings/2010/0310 | 16:01 |
| Keybuk | (says the guy who just pounded his fists into the sofa screaming "I was just going to say that!") | 16:01 |
| barry | Keybuk: didn't you get the bagels i sent? | 16:01 |
| Keybuk | barry: ev must have eaten them all before I got here | 16:02 |
| * barry can't do anything about that | 16:02 | |
| ev | yeah, proper bagels wouldn't stand a chance | 16:02 |
| ev | anyway | 16:02 |
| barry | lessee, james_w, doko, slangasek are you here? | 16:02 |
| james_w | hi | 16:02 |
| barry | oops, sorry slangasek | 16:02 |
| * cjwatson sneaks his activity report in under the wire | 16:03 | |
| slangasek | yes, you may have overlooked me amid all the lust for fried pastries :) | 16:03 |
| barry | i think mvo sends his virtual apology | 16:03 |
| barry | :) | 16:03 |
| Keybuk | I thought we'd tempted you into going to voodoo donuts | 16:03 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: I went to voodoo donuts - I didn't eat any of them :) | 16:03 |
| barry | [TOPIC] lightning round | 16:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: lightning round | 16:04 |
| barry | >>> team = ['Keybuk', 'barry', 'cjwatson', 'ev', 'james_w', 'lool', 'mvo', 'slangasek', 'slangasek', 'tremolux'] | 16:04 |
| barry | >>> import random | 16:04 |
| barry | >>> order = team[:] | 16:04 |
| barry | >>> random.shuffle(order) | 16:04 |
| barry | >>> print ', '.join(order) | 16:04 |
| barry | tremolux, Keybuk, ev, slangasek, mvo, cjwatson, slangasek, james_w, barry, lool | 16:04 |
| ev | lol | 16:04 |
| barry | 16:04 | |
| tremolux | heh | 16:04 |
| tremolux | I've been working on OEM tasks from last Thu through yesterday. | 16:04 |
| tremolux | Now back to my Software Center todo list, bug fixing and triage, etc. | 16:04 |
| tremolux | (done) | 16:04 |
| Keybuk | I rewrote the Plymouth VT handling code, | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | then I rewrote the Plymouth X transition/handover code, | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | then I rewrote bits of various plugins to make them work, | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | then I fixed the binary to remove various race conditions, | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | NOW FETCH ME WIL WHEATON! | 16:05 |
| * barry realizes he has a bug and should have used a set :) | 16:05 | |
| ev | mostly ubiquity UI changes after a meeting the other day with the design team (sorry release team), looking into an apt-setup bug whereby if you have a USB disk that exposes a fake CD device, apt-setup fails. | 16:05 |
| ev | (done) | 16:06 |
| doko | barry: should slangasek report twice, and me not at all? ;p | 16:06 |
| slangasek | doko: you can be me first! | 16:06 |
| barry | doko: that's my bug. you can be slangasek II today | 16:06 |
| slangasek | continuing work on casper plymouth support | 16:07 |
| slangasek | FFes, we have them | 16:07 |
| slangasek | working on the supportable-binaries spec | 16:07 |
| slangasek | (done) | 16:07 |
| lool | Was on travel to London; doing a lot of interviews and working on random ARM bugs. | 16:07 |
| doko | vacation last week; now working on llvm updates, preparing icedtea6-1.8 release, python updates to new subminor releases | 16:07 |
| lool | (done) | 16:07 |
| doko | (done) | 16:07 |
| lool | Uh /me is confused | 16:07 |
| lool | (scrolled back to wrong line, sorry) | 16:08 |
| james_w | fixing bugs in bzr-builddeb, still need to get that synced from unstable, chasing failures, and working with LP developers on the build from branch feature. More of the same to come. | 16:08 |
| james_w | (done) | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | you're all very confused | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | hm, no mvo | 16:08 |
| * slangasek grins | 16:08 | |
| cjwatson | done: parted 2.2; grub 1.98; failed to finish console-setup/plymouth interaction fixes but had a good go at it and should be able to finish in time | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | blocked: nothing | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | todo: partman-base fixes for advanced format drives (doing the hardware setup today); dpkg performance/correctness backports, nearly ready to go; running around like headless chicken fixing bugs for beta 1 | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | -- | 16:08 |
| barry | Several branches merged for SC ratings and reviews. Still to decide whether | 16:09 |
| barry | we're going to make it. Good discussion on canonical-tech about the url | 16:09 |
| barry | structure for r&r server. Computer Janitor dbus refactoring mostly done, | 16:09 |
| barry | waiting for review. Would love to get minor ui exception to clean the gui of | 16:09 |
| barry | unused elements. Starting implementation work for PEP 3147 today. (done) | 16:09 |
| barry | anybody we haven't heard from? :) | 16:09 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Outstanding action items from last meeting | 16:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Outstanding action items from last meeting | 16:09 |
| barry | none that i'm aware of. am i missing anything? | 16:09 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Milestoned bugs | 16:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Milestoned bugs | 16:10 |
| barry | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=21446 | 16:10 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=21446 | 16:10 |
| barry | not sure what to say about this, does anybody have anything on this topic? | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | yow, we're up since last week | 16:11 |
| lool | new arm bugs in the mix | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | is there a view of the milestone list that shows assignees? | 16:12 |
| slangasek | no :( | 16:12 |
| barry | yeah, that kind of sucks | 16:12 |
| slangasek | not in LP - there are some external reports, though I don't know that those are current either | 16:12 |
| slangasek | (nor have the URLs to hand) | 16:12 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Targeted bugs | 16:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Targeted bugs | 16:14 |
| barry | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs | 16:14 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs | 16:14 |
| barry | these also don't show assignees | 16:14 |
| barry | any thoughts on these bugs? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | if somebody could track down an appropriate report, that would be great | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | what I really want to know is which bugs aren't being dealt with | 16:16 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:16 | |
| cjwatson | there's https://edgelaunchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04-beta-1, although it's suboptimal in other ways | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | err | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 | 16:16 |
| slangasek | it includes all the milestoned bugs, not just the targeted ones, yes | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | and doesn't show the package. and shows fix-released bugs. | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | (and invalid and wontfix) | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | in fact in general it sucks, just differently | 16:17 |
| barry | cjwatson: do you think the reports exist but we just aren't sure where, or that they don't exist (at all, or in a useful format)? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | I'm fairly sure they don't exist in Launchpad; they have existed externally in the past but I'm not sure where or if they're up to date | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | was it Bryce who used to maintain one? | 16:18 |
| barry | agreed about launchpad | 16:18 |
| barry | cjwatson: if you let me know what it is you'd like to see (either in irc or via email) i can take a crack at a launchpadlib script to produce the report. dunno where i'd stick it right now, but i'd link it off the foundations wiki page | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | ok, action me? | 16:21 |
| barry | cjwatson: yep, and then action me | 16:21 |
| barry | [ACTION] cjwatson to spec out requirements for launchpadlib bug report script | 16:21 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: cjwatson to spec out requirements for launchpadlib bug report script | 16:21 |
| barry | [ACTION] barry to implement script | 16:21 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: barry to implement script | 16:21 |
| barry | sound okay? | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I'd like this part of the meeting to be farming out tasks that aren't being handled, rather than everyone sitting madly opening tabs in firefox | 16:23 |
| barry | that sounds like a much more productive use of our time. maybe combine milestoned and targeted bugs topics | 16:24 |
| barry | cjwatson: we can take this offline. moving on... | 16:25 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Sponsorship queue | 16:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Sponsorship queue | 16:25 |
| barry | [LINK] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 16:25 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 16:25 |
| barry | again, apologies. i'm not sure what i should say here | 16:26 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Any business from activity reports | 16:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any business from activity reports | 16:27 |
| barry | nothing from reports; does anybody have anything not on the agenda? | 16:27 |
| barry | reminder: send me your reports if you haven't already :) | 16:27 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:27 | |
| cjwatson | I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on bug 513197 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513197 in ntfs-3g "Please merge ntfs-3g 1:2010.1.16-0.1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513197 | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | I have been meaning to get round to merging this for some time, and it would be a shame to release without the stability fixes | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | OTOH it has feature enhancements as well ... | 16:28 |
| barry | would be nice to have. i was just trying to mount an ntfs usb drive for a friend over the weekend to get some data off of it. mostly worked but had a few minor problems | 16:31 |
| barry | anything else not on the agenda? | 16:31 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: I suppose there's enough there to send it through for an FFe | 16:31 |
| barry | how about... | 16:32 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Good news! | 16:32 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Good news! | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: 'k | 16:33 |
| barry | python 2.6.5rc2 coming out today. 2.6.5 final planned for 2010-03-19. 2.7a4 and 3.1.2rc1 were released last week. | 16:33 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Chair for next meeting | 16:35 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Chair for next meeting | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | it's probably about my turn again? | 16:35 |
| barry | cjwatson: sounds good. thanks! | 16:36 |
| barry | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:36 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:36 |
| barry | i'm feeling like we're done :) | 16:37 |
| barry | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:37. | 16:37 |
| barry | thanks everybody! | 16:37 |
| tremolux | thanks! | 16:37 |
| ev | thanks! | 16:38 |
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| * ara waves | 16:57 | |
| bladernr_ | \0/ | 16:57 |
| * bladernr_ and his giant head have arrived | 16:57 | |
| * charlie-tca waves too | 16:58 | |
| * bdmurray waves | 16:58 | |
| * marjo waves | 16:58 | |
| * stgraber waves (but will only be there for 2 minutes ;)) | 16:59 | |
| pedro_ | hello!! | 16:59 |
| * fader_ waves. | 16:59 | |
| marjo | #startmeeting QA Team Meeting | 16:59 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:59. The chair is marjo. | 17:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:00 |
| marjo | hi folks | 17:00 |
| marjo | Agenda: | 17:00 |
| marjo | * SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) | 17:00 |
| marjo | * Bug Day status -- pvillavi | 17:00 |
| marjo | * Ubiquity testing -- ara | 17:00 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] * SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) | 17:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | SRU Activity report for the past two weeks (since 2010-02-24): | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | * karmic: 7 new packages in -proposed (ec2-init, eucalyptus, linux-fsl-imx51, logcheck, rrdtool, tzdata, xorg-server) and 12 packages pushed to -updates (bld, d4x, eucalyptus, foomatic-filters, gcalctool, image-store-proxy, linux, linux-backports-modules-2.6.31, linux-ec2, openoffice.org, python-profiler, ubuntu-dev-tools) | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | * jaunty: 2 new packages in -proposed (cups, tzdata) and 2 packages pushed to -updates (amsn, openoffice.org) | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | * intrepid: 1 new package in -proposed (tzdata) and 1 package pushed to -updates (openoffice.org) | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | * hardy: 2 new packages in -proposed (cupsys, tzdata) and 3 package pushed to -updates (linux, openoffice.org, virtualbox-ose-modules) | 17:00 |
| sbeattie | * dapper: 1 new package in -proposed (langpack-locales) | 17:01 |
| sbeattie | Thanks to Paul Elliott (omahn), Michael Nagel, Ralf Doering, Erik B. Andersen, and Evan Broder for testing SRUs the past two weeks. | 17:01 |
| sbeattie | (end report) | 17:01 |
| marjo | thx sbeattie | 17:01 |
| marjo | any questions re SRU? | 17:01 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] * Bug Day status -- pvillavi aka pedro | 17:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Bug Day status -- pvillavi aka pedro | 17:02 |
| pedro_ | This week the Ubuntu Server Team is concentrating on Samba | 17:03 |
| pedro_ | mostly doing bug fixing and triaging | 17:03 |
| pedro_ | the triaging part is happening today with an special Bug Day we organized for them | 17:03 |
| pedro_ | you can follow up the progress on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100310 | 17:03 |
| pedro_ | the bug fixing part is going to happen tomorrow | 17:04 |
| pedro_ | for that you can find more information on ttx post about it http://fnords.wordpress.com/ | 17:04 |
| * ttx hugs pedro_ | 17:05 | |
| pedro_ | again if you have some spare minutes please join us, specially if you have access to a windows 7 machine and can test with it | 17:05 |
| * pedro_ hugs ttx back | 17:05 | |
| pedro_ | for tomorrow! | 17:05 |
| pedro_ | Kyle Law organized a bug day on which the target is Ubiquity | 17:06 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100311 | 17:06 |
| pedro_ | I saw that there's an Ubiquity item on the agenda as well so seems tomorrow is going to be an Ubiquity day for lot of people ;-) | 17:07 |
| marjo | pedro: yes, ubiquity needs some extra love these days | 17:07 |
| pedro_ | marjo, cool! we hope to have a great participation from our community on that | 17:08 |
| * pedro_ hugs the bugsquad | 17:08 | |
| pedro_ | marjo, that's all from here ;-) | 17:08 |
| marjo | pedro_ thx! | 17:08 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] Ubiquity testing -- ara | 17:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Ubiquity testing -- ara | 17:08 |
| ara | hello! | 17:08 |
| ara | to continue with ubiquity... | 17:08 |
| ara | we are trying to test its changes from now, until the release of Lucid. The objective is to catch bugs earlier, and avoid late rebuilds during ISO testing. | 17:09 |
| ara | I already sent a couple of emails to the ubuntu-qa mailing list | 17:09 |
| ara | last week we tested 2.1.30, and this week it is the turn of 2.1.33 | 17:09 |
| ara | Of course, we are not covering all the testcases, but just some combinations of them. | 17:10 |
| ara | Finishing a test won't do any harm, and we only have 11. | 17:10 |
| ara | So, if you have a little time to cover one or two testcases, we will easily reach full coverage by the end of the week. | 17:10 |
| ara | you can find the testcases at http://pairwise.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 17:10 |
| ara | does anybody have any questions about the process? | 17:10 |
| YokoZar | I'll note that there were a variety of Ubiquity regressions in the past few releases (eg Jaunty->Intrepid I think had a problem where if you mounted a disk it wouldn't unmount it for you at install time, but Hardy would) | 17:10 |
| YokoZar | My question would be about adding test cases for issues like that | 17:11 |
| YokoZar | or rather specific tests for each regression we've had in the past | 17:11 |
| ara | YokoZar, that would be awesome, we have a new feature in the ISO test tracker that allow to add optional testcases | 17:11 |
| ara | YokoZar, our problem, always, is to reach all the coverage | 17:12 |
| ara | YokoZar, adding 100 new testcases won't help, if nobody covers them | 17:12 |
| YokoZar | Of course | 17:12 |
| YokoZar | Although these sorts of Ubiquity issues aren't necessarily limited to just pre-release ISO testing but rather could be an ongoing thing like you noted | 17:12 |
| ara | YokoZar, feel free to send your testcases suggestions to the ubuntu-qa mailing list to discuss them there | 17:13 |
| ara | YokoZar, or do you have any example right now? | 17:13 |
| sbeattie | ara: do we shuffle the pairings in each round of testing, or are they the same pairs as from the 2.1.30 testing? | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu does not have current desktop images, for anyone trying to do this | 17:14 |
| YokoZar | Oh, regarding Ubiquity, I did notice a whole bunch of grammar errors and out of date things in the slideshow itself | 17:14 |
| ara | sbeattie, I am afraid this week and last one were the same (I did it quickly this morning), but indeed, your suggestion makes sense. I will shuffle them for next week | 17:14 |
| YokoZar | I suspect this isn't something that's "tested" regularly | 17:14 |
| ara | YokoZar, this is not the place to discuss current bugs of ubiquity | 17:15 |
| YokoZar | I'm not sure what the process is for updating that sort of thing as the slideshow is new though | 17:15 |
| bdmurray | well that's easy enough to look at / fix without install testing | 17:15 |
| YokoZar | I guess it's just more ubiquity bugs in general then that we catch with testing | 17:15 |
| marjo | any other questions re ubiquity testing? | 17:17 |
| marjo | thx ara! | 17:17 |
| marjo | [TOPIC] New Agenda Topics? | 17:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: New Agenda Topics? | 17:17 |
| marjo | folks: any new topics for today? | 17:18 |
| marjo | if not, i propose we adjourn the meeting | 17:18 |
| marjo | going once | 17:19 |
| marjo | twice | 17:19 |
| marjo | ok ttx has quit; must be end of meeting | 17:19 |
| fader_ | Heh | 17:19 |
| marjo | thx all! | 17:19 |
| ara | thanks! | 17:19 |
| marjo | #endmeeting | 17:19 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:19. | 17:19 |
| ara | bye bye | 17:20 |
| pedro_ | thanks! | 17:20 |
| arcaous | hello | 17:23 |
| arcaous | the matrix has you | 17:25 |
| kamusin | haha | 17:29 |
| highvoltage | hi | 19:01 |
| alkisg | Hi all | 19:02 |
| mgariepy | hi | 19:02 |
| * stgraber waves | 19:02 | |
| ubudog | hello | 19:02 |
| mgariepy | i will be there this afternoon but i'm following 2 meetings. i won't be there to interact much. | 19:02 |
| ubudog | next up is the server team meeting right? | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | ubudog: yep | 19:03 |
| ubudog | should start about now | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | anything we need to add for the agenda tonight? | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | ubudog: oh this is the Edubuntu meeting starting now | 19:03 |
| ubudog | oh ok | 19:03 |
| ubudog | why isn't the membership meeting on the fridge calender for thursday? | 19:04 |
| highvoltage | ubudog: server meeting was 5 hours ago according to the Fridge calendar | 19:04 |
| ubudog | hmm | 19:04 |
| highvoltage | for technical things from my side, | 19:05 |
| Lns | hi guys | 19:05 |
| ubudog | hello | 19:05 |
| highvoltage | the ltsp-live script is now working. I'm just going to clean up a bit and then update the ltsp package | 19:05 |
| stgraber | yeah ! | 19:06 |
| highvoltage | it still needs a menu entry but that's nothing big at least | 19:06 |
| highvoltage | we also still need the squashfs on the dvd but I'll pest -vvv lamont and hopefully that will help :) | 19:06 |
| highvoltage | the live install cd will reuse some of the live ltsp stuff, I also still need to do the zenity dialog that runs from the ubiquity hook, I should have that done by the enf of the week | 19:07 |
| stgraber | great | 19:07 |
| highvoltage | from the artwork dept, the missing icon we have in our theme is due to bug 525295 | 19:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 525295 in indicator-sound "Lucid indicator icons are not shown. Displays the "unknown icon" instead" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525295 | 19:08 |
| highvoltage | it should be fixed soon, not so much we have to do there, I'll keep an eye on it though and if we have to I'll do a workaround in the icon theme | 19:09 |
| highvoltage | gdm seems to just use the default gnome wallpaper now so nothing we had to change there | 19:09 |
| highvoltage | we still need a new LDM theme and plymouth theme, and Edubuntu logos need to be updated everywhere, but we're waiting on new Edubuntu logos from Canonical for that | 19:10 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: did canonical perhaps give you any kind of ETA for that? | 19:10 |
| stgraber | yeah, eta was a week ago ;) | 19:10 |
| stgraber | I'll poke Iain a bit and see when we can expect to get the new logo | 19:10 |
| Lns | we just need an 'E' and a 'd' and we can make it ourselves =p | 19:11 |
| highvoltage | Lns: give me an "E"! | 19:11 |
| stgraber | yeah, that's the issue, these two letters haven't been approved yet | 19:11 |
| * Lns loves the new font for ubuntu logo | 19:11 | |
| highvoltage | we'll just grab the E and the d from the old ubuntu-title font :) | 19:11 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: not sure we want that ;) | 19:12 |
| Lns | ooo, that's a good idea =) an 'edu' that is a bit different | 19:12 |
| highvoltage | that would be a branding nightmare :) | 19:12 |
| Lns | maybe bolded or something? | 19:12 |
| highvoltage | that's basically where things stand from my side at the moment | 19:13 |
| highvoltage | oh and there's an annoying ltsp bug where ldm-server's installation just stops but it's a known issue | 19:14 |
| stgraber | fixed | 19:14 |
| stgraber | uploaded 2 hours ago | 19:14 |
| highvoltage | \o/ | 19:14 |
| Lns | nice stgraber =) | 19:14 |
| stgraber | well, "I guess it's fixed". I'm currently 7000km away from my LTSP setup ;) | 19:15 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: coming from you, "I guess it's fixed" is good enough for me :) | 19:16 |
| highvoltage | overall we're not looking too bad for Lucid. | 19:16 |
| stgraber | indeed | 19:16 |
| highvoltage | if we could get that squashfs image and logos within the next week or so, then we can focus on bugs and getting the website/marketing/etc good | 19:17 |
| stgraber | something else, for these of you who didn't see my post on -devel is that we have edubuntu-dev approved as uploader for the edubuntu package set in lucid | 19:17 |
| highvoltage | and also start drawing up ideas for lucid+1 | 19:17 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: wow, I missed that, that is great news, we've been waiting for that for a long time | 19:17 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: shall we make the next meeting an EC meeting so that we can approve uploaders? | 19:18 |
| stgraber | yeah, I suggested doing that in that mail | 19:18 |
| stgraber | so we really should make the next meeting an EC meeting, we should probably look at the documentation in detail as it's basically the EC approving new edubuntu-dev members who will also be EC members :) | 19:19 |
| stgraber | so that will be quite interesting ;) | 19:19 |
| highvoltage | it's one of the problems with having a small team | 19:20 |
| highvoltage | I guess it was like that when the first Ubuntu teams started out as well | 19:20 |
| highvoltage | yikes I haven't read mailing lists today at all (been on of those days) | 19:21 |
| stgraber | hehe | 19:21 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: so does the package set cover all packages in our seeds? | 19:22 |
| highvoltage | or just the educational ones? | 19:22 |
| stgraber | other than that, I'm planning another ldm + ltsp upload quite soon, currently producing snapshot builds on request in my PPA and will tag + upload, ideally before beta (next week) | 19:22 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: only the edubuntu-specific ones | 19:22 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: and it's not complete yet, for example the menueditor isn't part of the set currently | 19:22 |
| highvoltage | ok | 19:22 |
| stgraber | I attached the list of the packages in the set to that mail | 19:22 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav will be glad | 19:23 |
| alkisg | We should also emphasize our "stable" ppa - maybe even provide an easy way for people to put it in their sources | 19:24 |
| stgraber | alkisg: add-apt-repository should be easy enough, maybe apt-url can do that too | 19:25 |
| highvoltage | next week once our technical work should be mostly done, I'm going to work a bit with hedgemadge so that we can get our website more or less sorted. I don't want to leave that to the last minute before release | 19:25 |
| highvoltage | next week would probably also be a good timme to start working on some release notes/announcements so that we don't have to do that right at the end as well | 19:26 |
| stgraber | having beta released next week, I'll at least update the release notes to include any relevant edubuntu item (like the fact we're missing the squashfs, if not fixed by then) | 19:26 |
| highvoltage | the stable ppa- have we decided what that will be yet? | 19:27 |
| stgraber | for the actual release, we'll probably just do as usual, copy/paste from Ubuntu, include our edubuntu-specific items, work on it on the wiki + copy it to the website afterwards | 19:27 |
| highvoltage | I guess it will just be a ppa owned by edubuntu-dev | 19:30 |
| stgraber | yep, that'd make sense | 19:30 |
| highvoltage | oh, it's allready registered | 19:30 |
| highvoltage | 3 of them, Edubuntu Testing Archive, Edubuntu Stable Updates, Edubuntu Work in Progress | 19:31 |
| * mhall119|work is here | 19:31 | |
| alkisg | It'd be nice if we shipped selected updates through them | 19:31 |
| alkisg | E.g. ltsp or italc updates... | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | yep. people who want the latest and greatest (and bleeding edge) ltsp versions will probably use stgraber's ppa | 19:33 |
| alkisg | Sure - I was mostly thinking of bug-fixing updates | 19:33 |
| highvoltage | but it will probably be a good idea to copy some ltsp package versions over to the edubuntu ppa to make some important fixes available to them | 19:33 |
| highvoltage | ltsp is at least important enough to be SRU'd for most issues | 19:34 |
| alkisg | Well, "ldm hangs on logout" never got an SRU | 19:34 |
| stgraber | nobody ever worked on one ;) | 19:35 |
| alkisg | k, but a ppa would make that much easier. In the same sense that people are using stgraber's ppa for ltsp, they could be using edubuntu's stable ppa for selected updates | 19:36 |
| highvoltage | yeah the bug fix must be available first before the paackage can be updated :) | 19:36 |
| alkisg | E.g. new sabayon that's actually working... etc | 19:37 |
| highvoltage | I assumed we would use that for new packages as well that's not in a release yet, that we've tested and know is usuable? | 19:37 |
| highvoltage | anything else for the meeting? Seems like we pretty much covered everything | 19:38 |
| stgraber | nothing on my side | 19:39 |
| * alkisg will try to have CK/PK fixes for ltsp fat clients in time for beta | 19:39 | |
| highvoltage | I just want to say thanks to each one of you who've been involved so far. been great working with you and I think Lucid will be a great release judging by what we have so far | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | it's going to give us something real good to build lucid+1 one | 19:40 |
| stgraber | yep, +1 | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | *on | 19:40 |
| alkisg | Right, it's a really good (and fresh) start | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | I'd really like to see some of LaserJock's ideals realised for the M release | 19:41 |
| highvoltage | have some interaction with educators and find out what they want and see how much we can do for them | 19:41 |
| highvoltage | K12-LTSP has some simple scripts that does things like push an icon to all users' desktops | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | it's a simple thing but people like it. I think there's a bunch of things like that we could look at | 19:42 |
| alkisg | Yes, a collection of scripts would be great | 19:43 |
| * alkisg is working on that :) | 19:43 | |
| highvoltage | I know and I'm counting on that :) | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: that would also be nice for the PPA | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | ok I'm going to call the meeting to an end unless there's anything else? | 19:44 |
| highvoltage | ok I guess it's off to #edubuntu then. | 19:44 |
| highvoltage | *gong* | 19:44 |
| alkisg | Thanks all | 19:45 |
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| jfrorie | ne1 from the laptop qa team online? | 23:35 |
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