[00:24] <Pici> Er. I don't think that was unreasonable.
[00:32] <mneptok> "that?"
[00:34] <Pici> I asked someone to stop writing 'test' in #ubuntu
[00:34] <Pici> 19:23:39 <?eremite> Pici, stop what?  Testing to see if my keyboard is working?  Pfft.  I'll just leave then.  I dont need to have orders barked at me as soon as I get here.
[03:04] <ardchoille> there is a user in #ubuntu DasEi that is giving bad advice (sudo wget among other things. Can someone set him straight?
[03:05] <ardchoille> !ops | sorry but I feel this is important
[03:08] <nhandler> It looks like DasEi is no longer in #ubuntu
[04:50] <MagicFab> hi all
[04:50] <MagicFab> I am having some trouble with users in my loco team channel
[04:51] <MagicFab> mneptok, maco2 ^
[04:51] <MagicFab> elky ^
[04:52] <MagicFab> I've gotten several complaints, now I have a member of the FSFLA trolling the channel with help from another 4 users
[04:53] <MagicFab> I 've repeatedly asked them to leave, no dice. I know kicking will have no effect and banning - well I am not sure how to handle re-joins etc.
[04:59] <maco2> i dont have access in that channel
[05:02] <MagicFab> maco2, all Ubuntu members do. Actually as soon as I came in here they magically vanished.
[05:02] <elky> MagicFab, you pretty much have to play whackamole
[05:03] <MagicFab> honestly I was looking for some swift cleaning action. These guys are relentless they come every night now that we have some audience
[05:03] <MagicFab> They're dedicated Debian and FSFLA self-proclaimed "freedom defenders".
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> MagicFab: looking for idlers to come chill?
[05:04] <MagicFab> a bit out of my (peaceful Canadian) league
[05:04] <MagicFab> tonyyarusso, I'd love to.
[05:04] <elky> MagicFab, we can't personally do anything aside from be whackamole reinforcements, but talkign to freenode staff might help for something heavier
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> Just pretend you're playing hockey :P
[05:05] <MagicFab> elky, ok. I suppose all bans will have no effects on these types - I see how they quickly roam from one IP to the next.
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> MagicFab: are they hopping IP addresses around the planet, or less clever than that?
[05:06] <MagicFab> tonyyarusso, well, NOrthAmerica qualifies as around the planet ? NYC, Miami, Colombia is what I traced in 2hr activity
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> fun
[05:07] <Pici> Is there a reason #ubuntu is set +q $~a ?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> MagicFab: is this ca, qc, or co?  (did I remember that last one right?)
[05:08] <MagicFab> -co
[05:08] <MagicFab> (Colombia)
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> yay, the one I'll understand least!
[05:20] <Pici> I'm going to sleep, but someone may want to just keep an eye on Elrox.  ardchoille is trying to keep him on-topic, but I'm not sure how well that will turn out.
[05:20]  * Pici yawns
[05:20] <Pici> pici out.
[05:24] <bazhang> ah seaphor
[05:45] <phoul> Hello
[05:45] <bazhang> phoul, hi
[05:46] <phoul> Im experiencing an issue connecting to the ubuntu channel, i recently purchased a vps. When i try to connect to the ubuntu channel it says im banned, im using the same name and vhost as i am right now, any idea why that would happen?
[05:46] <phoul> Ive never had a problem with the ubuntu channel seeing as i mainly lurk
[05:47] <bazhang> phoul, you are in #ubuntu right now, correct ?
[05:47] <Flannel> phoul: What's your host?
[05:47] <phoul> i am at the moment, i connected from my desktop instead of through irrsi + ssh on the vps
[05:48] <phoul> i guess thats whats banned, cuz the vhost would be teh same as im using now, unless your banning proxy@
[05:49] <Flannel> phoul: That looks to be the case, yes.
[05:49] <phoul> Ahh... alright
[05:49] <phoul> I will change that then, thats just the name i setup the vps to use and irrsi defaulted to it :P
[05:51] <Phoul> Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the help :)
[05:51] <bazhang> hehe
[05:51] <Phoul> i couldnt figure out why i was banned lol
[05:51] <Phoul> anyways, enjoy your evening :)
[05:52] <bazhang> you too :)
[05:56] <bazhang> in PM with elrox/seaphor; he/she says that wubi is not supported in #ubuntu
[05:58] <persia> That would be an incorrect statement.
[05:58]  * persia has previously received support for wubi there
[05:58] <bazhang> most certainly; trying to disavow him/her of the notion atm
[05:59] <jussi01> o/
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> There was a time when wubi wasn't supported.  But yeah, it is now.
[06:03] <m3onh0x84> !help
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> m3onh0x84: not what the factoid's for, but what can we do for you?
[06:04] <m3onh0x84> tonyyarusso: I'm testing bot :D and want to watch bot database :)
[06:05] <m3onh0x84> and want to become op :D
[06:06] <persia> m3onh0x84: For #1, we can't help (but please use non-ubuntu channels).  For #2, that depends on your bot implementations.  For #3, that rarely happens because you ask, but rather because you happen to end up that way as a result of other factors.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> m3onh0x84: ah.  As far as bot testing, private message or #ubuntu-bots would be more appropriate.  As far as learning how to be an op, #ubuntu-irc would be better, as that's the wider-focus channel and allows casual idlers.
[06:06]  * persia may has misunderstood "bot testing"
[06:06] <m3onh0x84> thanks
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> persia: I'm hoping so.
[06:09] <persia> I don't have any prejudice against bots (this client includes a multiplexed bot), but it depends on how they are used.
[06:12] <jussi01> !bot | m3onh0x84
[06:12] <jussi01> the brain is downloadable from ubottu's website
[06:13] <jussi01> m3onh0x84: So all clear now?
[06:14] <elky> jayne, thanks
[06:14]  * jayne nods
[06:15] <m3onh0x84> yes, I just watch ubot sites :D
[06:17] <jussi01> m3onh0x84: :) Just a reminder, as our topic notes this is a no idle zone. please feel free to ask questions about the bots in #ubuntu-bots and you are welcome to idle in #ubuntu-irc :)
[06:18] <m3onh0x84> jussi01: Can I testing bot forever and free at 2 this channel ?
[06:19] <jussi01> m3onh0x84: hrm?
[06:19] <bazhang> in #ubuntu-bots ?
[06:20] <m3onh0x84> thanks a lots, I see not I have not any question :D, my english so bad :D
[06:20] <jussi01> m3onh0x84: you can be in #ubuntu-bots as long as you want, but try not to overload ubottu too much.
[06:20] <bazhang> forever is a long time :)
[06:37] <ikonia> m3onh0x84: do you need anything else ?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> os2mac is flooding #ubuntu+1 with join and quit messages ( quit due to exess flood )
[06:49] <m3onh0x84> ikonia: no, I don't need :D
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: seems he may have finally quit
[06:51] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: Ok, thanks for looking into it.
[06:51] <persia> m3onh0x84: If there's nothing else you need, please /part to comply with the guidelines for this channel.
[06:52] <m3onh0x84> persia: where is support on this channel ?
[06:52] <persia> m3onh0x84: support for which?
[06:53] <m3onh0x84> persia: can you say step by step or more information ?
[06:53] <m3onh0x84> I think it is general support
[06:53] <persia> The guidelines for #ubuntu-ops encourage those who are not current operators to /join the channel when there is an issue, and /part when the issue is resolved.
[06:54] <persia> Depending on your client, this may involve the "/part" command, or closing a window or tab or pane, etc.
[06:55] <m3onh0x84> thanks
[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[09:05] <lorenzosu> Hello all. Why am I banned from #ubuntu please?
[09:07] <elky> lorenzosu, I'm guessing it'd have something to do with the last time you were there. can you tell me more about that?
[09:07] <lorenzosu> elky Uh can't remember really.. I do autojoin.
[09:08] <elky> well it'd be related to the last time you were actively talking there
[09:08] <Jordan_U> tomato in #ubuntu
[09:10] <lorenzosu> elky, trying to remember.. I was on another machine. But I'm usually very well behaved :)
[09:11] <elky> lorenzosu, I'm not seeing any ban for you...
[09:12] <Jordan_U> tomato in #ubuntu ( not sure if I got through the first time with network issues )
[09:12] <lorenzosu> elky, If I do /join #ubuntu I get a message "Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)."
[09:12] <elky> Jordan_U, uh, i already removed him
[09:12] <elky> ikonia, are you around?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> elky: Sorry, serious lag right now.
[09:13] <elky> lorenzosu, hold on, i found it, investigating.
[09:14] <ikonia> hello yes
[09:14] <ikonia> elky: I'm here now
[09:14] <elky> ikonia, i think you might have gone a bit broad.
[09:15] <ikonia> yes, I'm just looking now
[09:16] <lorenzosu> elky, Is there any automatic keyword spotting for bad language? I can see I have answered to someone with a nick which was something like that
[09:16] <ikonia> lorenzosu: it's not you're problem, you where caught in a ban for another person that I set way to wide
[09:16] <ikonia> lorenzosu: the mistake is mine, if you give me 30 seconds I'll correct it with my apologies
[09:16] <lorenzosu> ikonia, Ok. no problem :)
[09:17] <lorenzosu> ikonia, You're doing your job ;)
[09:18] <topyli> lorenzosu, as for automated language detection, there is none. some ops do have hilighting set for certain words
[09:18] <lorenzosu> topyli, cool
[09:19] <elky> lorenzosu, apparently there's a few lorenzos in italy, who'd have thought.
[09:19] <lorenzosu> elky sure.. and so many ubuntu users.. although I did register my nick on freenode
[09:19] <ikonia> lorenzosu: ban removed, again with my apologies, please try to join now
[09:20] <lorenzosu> ikonia, no problem.. I can imagine the hard work you all do to keep the channels 'clean' :)
[09:20] <ikonia> thank you for understanding
[09:22] <lorenzosu> ok thanks and bye and have a good day.
[10:54] <ardchoille> Saw this in #ubuntu earlier: [02:51] <Sarahzz> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268218269.jpg do my boobs look small?
[10:54] <ardchoille> Did some investigation. that isn't animage,it's a piece of javascript
[10:54] <ardchoille> <script type="text/javascript">
[10:54] <ardchoille> window.location = 'http://referer.us/1/WOJNx2';
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[10:54] <ardchoille> that's the second time I've seen that post from the same IP, maybe we should ban that IP
[10:55] <ardchoille> [02:51] * Sarahzz (~Sarahzz@63.223.127.150) has left #ubuntu
[10:56] <persia> I've seen that also in several channels on OFTC from the same nick/IP
[10:56] <ardchoille> I think we should set a ban. I didn't follow that url but I bet it's malicious
[10:58] <marienz> (that one's hitting pretty much all channels, so they tend to not live very long)
[12:05] <bazhang> SpaceGhostC2C, hi
[12:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hey bazhang.
[12:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> I decided to sleep on it for the last few hours.
[12:26] <bazhang> SpaceGhostC2C, this is regarding your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> It would be, yes.
[12:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> is ikonia around?
[12:56] <topyli> hi SpaceGhostC2C
[12:56] <bazhang> SpaceGhostC2C, does not seem to be; perhaps you can let others help out?
[12:56] <topyli> any op can help you
[12:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> As far as I knew, I thought that the op who bans you is supposed to unban you. Sorry about that.
[12:58] <jussi01> SpaceGhostC2C: thats no longer the case.
[12:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> Then I don't mind if another op handles it.
[12:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> Is there anything to talk aout?
[12:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> out*
[12:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> about**
[12:59]  * jussi01 is only half here, so if someone else is about to handle it that would be useful. 
[13:00] <topyli> yesterday's incident is not a huge issue. i think the ban can be lifted if you do what you said yesterday, ie 1. stop the bot abuse, and 2. try to be a bit more relaxed and let the ops primarily handle the channel
[13:01] <topyli> it's okay to call the ops for help if things get out of hand on the channel and no ops seem to be around to take care of it, but that's not the first course of action
[13:01] <topyli> do those two sound okay?
[13:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> can I add on one more?
[13:02] <topyli> certainly
[13:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Listen to ops a little more seriously, even if I disagree.
[13:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Sound like a good agreement?
[13:02] <topyli> sounds great to me
[13:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> Then yes, I agree.
[13:04] <topyli> we all have to go with the one and the same code of conduct. we all are well aware of our own ideas and humors, but no matter how wonderful we are, we can't give ourselves privileges :)
[13:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> Sounds ingenious.
[13:05] <topyli> please try and join the channel to ensure the ban is gone
[13:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Yes sir.
[13:05] <topyli> ah looks good. have fun!
[13:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Thanks, will do.
[13:06] <jussi01> bazhang: *g*
[13:07] <bazhang> whoops :)
[13:33] <ikonia> is anyone else uncomfrotable with thewizord's comments in #kubuntu-offtopic (I don't mean breaking the actual rules of the channel) but bragging about ddos'ing and kline evading ?
[13:35] <jussi01> He was klined and banned in #ubuntuforums - perhaps its worth notifying a staffer... not sure if he is still klined. was a while back.
[13:35] <ikonia> I don't think he is
[13:35] <ikonia> as I said he's not breaking the rules, but the attitude of bragging about ddosing freenode and kline evasion doesn't sit well with me
[13:36] <jussi01> !illegal
[13:36] <jussi01> does that not cover it?
[13:37] <ikonia> nah, he's not on that side of the line, not looking to remove him or anything, just concerned about his ethics and the effect on the others in the channel
[13:38] <persia> I think it's bad in general to not come down on people talking about those things, but have a hard time judging what might be OK in *-offtopic.
[13:39] <ikonia> persia: it wasn't in details, I think it was an idle brag to be honest, and I ended it without an issue, more a case of noting I'm not comfortable with him
[13:40] <persia> On general principles, I'd say it was work a @mark if it comes up a few times, and otherwise, if it goes away without incident worth at most mnild chiding.
[13:40] <persia> (at the time of mention, and apparent forgetfulness later)
[14:52] <Myrtti> thoughts? ^
[14:53] <ikonia> gppd
[14:53] <ikonia> good
[14:53] <ikonia> dump the tiny url though
[14:53] <Myrtti> and replace it with what?
[14:54] <Pici> I don't think that the linked FAQ item is all that helpful.
[14:54] <Pici> but meh, maybe it is.
[14:56] <persia> At least replace it with a URL pointing at *ubuntu.com
[14:56] <persia> That looks lots more official.
[14:57] <ikonia> if the stuff on the wiki isn't helpful, I'll look at updating it
[14:57] <Myrtti> the thing just is that if we rip the tinyurl away, the factoid will be long as a famine year
[14:58] <Pici> Oh! we need an Ubuntu branded tinyurl-like service then
[14:58] <knome> ubunturl
[14:58] <knome> or bunturl
[14:58] <Myrtti> ubun.to
[14:59] <knome> nah
[14:59] <knome> the o is disturbing
[15:00] <Pici> I don't see any other CC tlds that would fit :(
[15:03] <knome> link.me
[15:03] <knome> :P
[15:06] <persia> Long factoids aren't an issue, as long as they fit within the buffer, which I believe to be well over 200 characters.
[15:10] <jussi01> persia: well we like to keep them as short as possible to add minimal scrollback on busy channels
[15:13] <soren> persia: > 450 bytes.
[15:13] <persia> soren: Thanks.  I had thought it was 512, but this explains why I miss sometimes.
[15:14] <soren> persia: Whenever I'm writing something long, I always /query it to myself to see if I get cut off :)
[15:14] <persia> jussi01: Sure, but some things can't be explained in that few characters.  Sometimes one needs more.  Otherwise, one misses the complexities essential to true understanding.
[15:15] <persia> soren: My client now manages that for me, reposting anything that didn't make it into the first line.
[15:15] <soren> persia: Neat. irssi doesn't do that :(
[15:16] <persia> soren: It can : irssi is infinitely pluggable :)
[15:16] <jussi01> hehe
[15:16] <jussi01> mine does same.
[15:16]  * soren finds splitlong.pl in /usr/share/irssi/scripts
[15:17] <persia> For extra points, set up irssi to do that and offer a much larger (~1024) buffer to it's clients when acting as a proxy, and normally connect with irssi through irssi(proxy).
[15:20] <Myrtti> splitlong ♥
[17:40] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it
[17:40] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:40] <Pici> lorenzo_: Why do you keep typing that?
[17:40] <Pici> lorenzo_ Perché continui a scrivere questo?
[17:41] <lorenzo_> per accedera al canale
[17:41] <lorenzo_> :)
[17:41] <Pici> lorenzo_ Sei stato trasmesso al canale # ubuntu-ops perché si continui a fare quello in # ubuntu e ci piacerebbe di smettere.
[17:42] <lorenzo_> scusa me sono sbagliato :)
[17:42] <ikonia> where is ljl when you need him
[17:42] <Pici> ikonia: google translate seems to be working for me
[17:42] <ikonia> ooh cool
[17:43] <Pici> Si prega di digitare: / join # ubuntu-it per il futuro
[17:43] <Pici> /join #ubuntu-it
[17:44] <Pici> Siamo spiacenti per il cattivo italiano, sto utilizzando Google Translate.
[17:48] <jussi01> Does anyone know who jason smith is? I suspect its dbo, but Im not certain...
[17:49] <jpds> jussi01: DBO.
[17:49] <jussi01> jpds: thank you :)
[17:51] <ikonia> Pici: stunning effort
[17:53] <Pici> ikonia: ty.
[17:53] <Pici> gtrans.pl is quite helpful.
[17:54] <knome> link?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> http://translate.google.com/
[17:55] <Pici> knome: is on http://scripts.irssi.org/
[17:55] <charlie-tca> I use it often
[17:55] <knome> Pici, cheers
[17:56] <Pici> If you have scriptassist, I think you can just do /scriptassist install gtrans
[17:56] <knome> no, i don't
[17:56]  * charlie-tca still does copy/paste with xchat
[17:56]  * knome investigates it later
[17:56] <knome> see you
[18:21] <Pici> Does anyone else see entries for Microblogging and Pidgin in their indicator applet even when they dont have gwibber or pidgin installed?
[18:22] <Pici> argh, wrong window.
[20:06] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it
[20:06] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:06] <Pici> ....
[20:16] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:17] <charlie-tca> lorenzo_: might be easier to run xchat and set up the network for automatic channel joins
[20:33] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it
[20:33] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:35] <Myrtti> and the reason he does that is the factoid
[20:35] <Myrtti> which teaches them to click the channel name
[22:19] <Myrtti> hi nerdy_kid
[22:20] <nerdy_kid> Myrtti hi?
[22:23] <nerdy_kid> oh i see i mustve accedentally joined
[22:23] <nerdy_kid> sry bout that
[22:39] <mneptok> nerdy_kid: another accident?
[22:40] <nerdy_kid> dang it really sorry