[00:00] * Oxymoron catach the wet mop and scrub the floor with it ... [00:00] * Menox grabs the mop and scrubs the space between Oxymoron's ears. [00:01] * Oxymoron thought hes head was intact and solid as a rock ... [00:02] lmfao [00:02] No, you're probably right. Solid as a rock... [00:04] well this has been an interesting day... Bye everyone. [00:05] Bye ... [00:06] * Oxymoron is going as well and looking forward to a warm nice nap and fantasy and dream about his girl <3 [00:06] Goodnight everyone! :) [00:09] I have an updated Ubuntu 10.04 Alpha 3 and Kubuntu, but I seem to be having a problem starting up the machine in Kubuntu. All I get is a black screen. I can see the cursor, but nothing else. If I hit ctl+alt+del, I get a popup window for shutting down/logging off. [00:12] * Typos_King notices the word 'Alpha 3' and then the words 'seem to be having a problem' on the same sentence.. and wonders why is that unexpected [00:13] Bookman try alt+f2 and type plasma [00:14] Thanks, I will try! [00:37] hello [00:37] omnipotentduo, alt+f2 and 'plasma' did not work. Still a black screen. [00:42] salam alikom [00:44] hi [00:44] hola [00:44] alo [00:45] salam alikom to you too :) === jono_ is now known as jono [01:06] salam all [01:11] :) [01:14] where is the brightness control? i have just installed kubuntu 9.10 [01:17] usually a button on your monitor :P: [01:22] Typos_King: funny that you mentioned it, because the "fn" key on my thinkpad SL500 ACTUALLY WORKS for the hotkeys. wow i would have never of guessed it. they must have put the experimental driver in :O [01:22] hehe [01:22] the 'fn' combo keys are keybindings in bios, so :) === hjkl is now known as hjkl_ === hjkl_ is now known as hjkl === yofel_ is now known as yofel [02:05] hi all [02:15] how do I restart the sound system in Kubuntu? Is it the same as Ubuntu? sudo service pulseaudio restart? === sysop is now known as Guest67965 === RedXIII`Alt is now known as RedXIII [03:45] Is there an actual small-screen resolution spin of Kubuntu-- a Netbook Remix so to speak? [03:45] KB1JWQ: not yet, there will be in 10.04 iirc [03:45] the netbook stuff didn't get added till KDE 4.4.0 === codolio is now known as dolio [03:46] you may be able to install that from backports from a normal kubuntu install though [03:46] netdaemon: Thanks. I'm all tingly in anticipation. [04:11] Hey all, is there a way to recover deleted files? I rmed the wrong dir, and I really need those files back. The fs I am using is ext4, I immediately unmounted the drive when I figured out what happened. [04:12] I'm googling for ways to recover them, but not much luck [04:15] gkffjcs: Yes! [04:15] gkffjcs: FIRST THINGS FIRST. [04:15] dd the drive to an image file somewhere else. [04:15] Then you're going to do recovery on the image. [04:15] Once that's done, look into testdisk [04:15] the drive is 1tb, [04:15] gkffjcs: And other 1TB drives are under $100, which is the price you pay for being foolish without backups. [04:16] Failing that, $600 and up for professional data recovery. [04:16] It becomes "What's your data worth to you?" [04:17] hours of scanning photos, honestly, no money, it's just that I manually scanned each of the over 1000 photos I just rm -r ./*'ed [04:17] without realising I was one dir too high [04:17] buenas amigos K Lucid tiene problemas en la instalacion, o soy solo yo? [04:18] !es | JuanMarquez [04:18] JuanMarquez: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [04:18] gkffjcs: Welp, if your time is worth nothing, you have a point. [04:18] I've told you what I would do. [04:18] Now, if you insist upon proceeding anyway, testdisk is what you want. [04:19] ok, why do I need to copy the entire disk? [04:19] that doesn't make sense to me === all is now known as Guest40495 [04:19] gkffjcs: Because you're using dd; it's a block level device. [04:19] The files are f*cking gone, dude. :-) The blocks haven't been overwritten yet, and that's ALL that's saving your bacon right now. [04:19] But in order to copy that data off, you need to do it blockwise at the device level. [04:19] yo idleeeee [04:20] Guest40495: Hush. [04:20] Kubuntu lucid have problem to install, help [04:20] That makes no sense, if I dd the disk I just end up with a copy of unlined inodes... [04:20] download dayling [04:20] linked* [04:21] their still unlinked... [04:21] dd is a common Unix program whose primary purpose is the low-level copying and conversion of raw data. [04:21] Right. [04:21] yes [04:21] The purpose of dding the drive off is so that you have a gold master image. [04:21] aka "if you screw up again, you've got a gold master you can refer back to." [04:21] well, that's just not possible [04:22] Your funeral. [04:22] Boot from a LiveCD. [04:22] Or better yet, plug it into another box. [04:22] You're going to need something writeable to recover these onto. [04:22] Actually, wait... [04:22] Hmm. [04:23] These are ALL Jpgs, gkffjcs? [04:24] Use foremost. http://foremost.sourceforge.net/ Obviously from your non-hosed media. [04:26] png's actuall [04:47] wow, who knew that I have at least 6000 png files... most of them are things I don't care about, it hasn't found any of the pics I want, but I'll just let it run. === l is now known as Guest79997 [06:35] Hi everyone [06:36] hi faultline [06:37] Can anyone give me a few seconds of their time? I recently started using Kubuntu, and have somehow deleted or removed the taskbar-like area and now I cannot view my network connection, the ktorrent downloader, or any other minimized items...any clue on how I can restore that? [06:37] is the panel still at the bottom? [06:38] the bar [06:44] I cant even see if my net is connected [06:45] qemqemqem the only panel is at the top right of my screen [06:45] unforntunately I am in a storm so my wireless is going in and out [06:48] faultline: it's going to be difficult to help you with you going in/out... [06:53] Bonjour [06:55] toc toc [07:03] Hi, can anyone help me please? I have accidentally removed my taskbar and cannot replace it, it was there when I installed kubuntu last night- anyone have any clues? [07:14] I suppose faultine is going to say #kubuntu is worthless, even though he can't stay connected long enough to see an answer [07:16] hi there! [07:17] i need to create ~50+ directories. the name of those directories are in a external file. how can i create them using the external file? === christian is now known as Guest58107 [07:19] Freyr: pretty easy scripting, though there are a lot of caveats [07:20] do you know any programming languages? [07:20] xjjk: i'm learning. [07:21] which? [07:21] you may want to go a language-specific channel and ask [07:22] i'm learning bash [07:22] anybody knows how i can get a list of channels [07:22] Freyr: fun. shell scripting will probably be the shortest, but also have the most caveats... I'd go a language-specific channel [07:29] anybody knows how i can get a list of channels === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin === bruker is now known as marco [09:11] Where do I go for Apache help? === caldera is now known as JulienBu === fstl is now known as explore [09:27] hi, I would like that files created in a certain directory have the rw attibute set for the group, how can I do? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:24] for some reasons I have no battery icon in tray and my laptop is running at lowest frequency. [10:24] since reinstalling from karmic 64bi [10:25] how is that tray battery app called again? [10:45] ahh... krandr is finally working nicely :) [10:46] and the new Device Notifier UI is *much* better than before [10:46] and even amarok is beginning to shape up [10:46] my flabber is ghasted === ahmed_ is now known as Ahmed_ [10:49] Hello, How do i trace a website IP ? from teriminal [10:49] I tried tracert but it says only for SUPER USERS ?WHAT IS THAT [10:50] Ahmed_: mtr is nice [10:50] And then ? [10:50] the host name [10:50] mtr google.com [10:50] Okay wait [10:50] It doesnt [10:50] and [10:51] i didnt even updated the all updates on synaptic updates [10:51] what doesn't what? [10:52] NO COMMAND found, thats i get typing mrt [10:52] and host name [10:52] and if you type mtr? [10:52] Let me see [10:52] no command [10:52] i am on bash ? whats that [10:52] and does it perhaps tell you how to install the command? [10:52] I installed that tracert but lemme see agian [10:53] btw, I have a crey impressive mtr from when I lived in Mexico DF: http://logi.org/tmp/mtr.png [10:53] ALLOWED FOR SUPERUSERS ONLY ? WHAT IS A SUPER USER NOW ? [10:53] * Logi is at work with code to write and doesn't have time for this [10:53] Ahmed_: also, all-CAPS is shouting and is considered rude [10:54] Oh [10:54] Sorry :) [10:54] np, you have to know [10:54] Yeah i am new user over here so [10:54] BRB after lunch [10:54] BRB :) [11:01] Grub2, if I want to completely remove all files, which folders do I have to delete? [11:07] Back [11:07] how to install all the updates for terminal ? === Yasik is now known as klaptop === klaptop is now known as Yasik === lara is now known as Guest55964 === epic is now known as Akallabeth [11:42] Hi, can anyone recommend some lowend video hardware for running 3 monitors, only requirement i have is that it should be able to run KDE smoothly (with composite/effects) atm i'm using an ATI evergreen card, but both the ATI and open source drivers are useless for my needs. [11:44] hallo [11:46] hi [11:48] does any body know any sports games that I can Install on my Kubuntu [11:48] cool sports games!!!!!!! [11:52] hello [11:52] give us an example of cool games ivan_ [11:53] can some one give me a tip how to enable terminal font in Konsole [11:53] say golf, football, basket ball, westling any......... [11:54] habe gestern etwas falsches hier gesagt.... -> TwinView in Kubuntu mit nvidia-Grafikkarte. (... xorg.conf löschen und mit sudo nvidis-settings neu erstellen...) Das funktioniert NICHT. Aber die lösung ist dennoch ganz einfach: 1.) sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup 2.) sudo kate xorg.conf 3.) in KDE nvidia-settings aufrufen/einstellen 4.) im 'Preview-Fenster den neu entstandenen conig-Text kopieren, in kate statt der alten [11:54] Konfiguration pasten, speichern und GUT ist :) [11:56] Frage: wie krieg ich den Gnome-Desktop zur Auswahl beim einloggen. Hab in KPackageKit ubuntu-desktop zum Installieren ausgewählt, aber NIX passiert. Keine Installation. Keine Auswahl beim Login. [11:58] ich wollte 'ubuntu-desktop- 1.175 (amd64)' installieren [12:08] !de | apricot [12:08] apricot: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [12:08] gibts in KPackageKit eine Möglichkeit die 'Gesamtliste' von software anzuzeigen wie z.B. in Synaptic oder Yast. Oder MUSS ich wissen, wie das Teil jeweils genau heißt (das it Blödsinn- niemand kann ALLES wissen) [12:09] oh sorry :) [12:15] chkdsk, how to do that in kubuntu because livecd of Win7 doesnt work in command prompt as it doesnt detect my keyboard ... lol and grub doesnt boot into Win7 while select I got: "Grub Hard Disk error" and get back to grub again .... xD Seriously, HELP NOW! === mike is now known as pulaski [12:18] Hello, I have finnally obtained a new computer but it relies on the OS to tell the system when to power down and suspend power or go to sleep. How do I adjust these settings in kubuntu 9.10? [12:22] Lo everyone. [12:22] I'm having a problem with removing packages via KPackageKit. [12:23] The Policykit settings for that action are the default and I am an administrative user. [12:23] However, every time I try, I get a dialogue box saying, "You do not have the necessary privileges to perform this action." [12:24] Running in a console returns this: "The following users qualify as administrative users: marcus" // "Select user: Failed to obtain authorization for org.freedesktop.packagekit.package-remove. " // "Authentification error : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown : The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.AuthenticationAgent was not provided by any .service files" [12:26] Installing packages seems to work properly, though, giving me the proper password dialogue. [12:58] how do i find the package a file belongs to ? [13:15] ubsafder: dpkg -S === Dab is now known as Guest57280 === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ === ocs is now known as faLUCE === betinho is now known as tumaix === jason70v is now known as JulienBu [14:27] some one know where kaddresbook stro informations? === JulienBu is now known as jason70v === jason70v is now known as JulienBu [14:30] infecto: ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf usually [14:31] ok vcf :) thats what i needed :) === felipe__ is now known as felipe_crimson [14:32] genii: thanks a loot [14:32] why on boot info it splits on tty1 and tty6, after "entering on run level...", who can help, please ? [14:34] gh0st: What do you mean by "splits on tty and tty6" ? [14:35] genii: kernel info goest on tty1 and tty6 [14:35] goes [14:37] genii: can u understand me [14:38] gh0st: X usually will run on tty6, then you have text terminals on the others. But since you can have any number of terminals but there will always be tty1 thats where the messages end up [14:38] gh0st: Yes, just I am at work, besides being here [14:39] how can i fix this problem === shadesla1er_ is now known as shadeslayer_ [14:40] genii: how can i fix it === tok_ is now known as Tok`s === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away === andy is now known as Guest68269 [14:52] gh0st: It's not broken. [14:52] Bah, left already [14:55] hello... how can i turn off fade effect in wallpaper changes? or at least make it faster? any ideas? [15:11] AMAZINGLY stupid question here... any way I can get ubuntu to STOP ordering things alphabetically by capital/small letters? just started using midnight commander instead of krusader... [15:21] k l k [15:22] ded [15:22] ddfd [15:23] #ubuntu [15:29] where is ubotu? [15:29] !mythubuntu [15:29] !mythbuntu [15:29] Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information [15:30] thanks === tv_ is now known as avihay_tv [15:36] hello kubuntu === caldera is now known as JulienBu [15:42] * genii makes more coffee [15:43] Hi folks. Solved my problem of black kde screen. Was a missing plasma-desktop package. I don't understand why this package disappeared during this morning's online update of lucid. Anyway, reinstalling manually solved the issue. [15:43] I am having a problem with my playback sound, lastfm will work but it has problems playing movies....any clues? [15:44] For those interested, there's a problem with kivio as well. Package is in database but not on kubuntu update servers. [15:44] It says 'BLAH is not working, reverting to.' where BLAH is my sound device... [15:44] ebischoff: #ubuntu+1 is the lucid support channel [15:45] But it doesnt revert to anything [15:45] mefisto : i informed there already. They told me to come here. Anyway. [15:46] Is there another media player? [15:50] faultline: media player? you're talking about last.fm, the website, right? [15:51] No sir, I meant the default movie player installed with kubuntu- but i figured how to install vlcplayer. [15:52] My major issue is I am a Windows native and just made the switch t olinux and Kubuntu the other night, so I am still learning- just got the dektop environment working for my tastes lol. Just started on programs [15:54] So i'm asking a billion questions lol....not really, just like 5 in 3 days rofl [15:54] faultline: you said you had sound problems with video on last.fm [15:58] faultline: well if you're looking for more video/media players, you might want to try kaffeine (used to be the default kde player), mplayer, smplayer (mplayer with a better interface) [16:01] No mefisto- Im having general sound problems....is there a way to check my sound drivers or try and update them [16:01] ? [16:01] brb Gotta run to college, its a few blocks away, I'll be back once I log into the library's net. === plassy is now known as plassy_planschen === jay_dm_ is now known as jay_dm [16:18] c [16:29] .. [16:37] the waterfall of parts and joins here is amazing [16:37] Quite, isn't it [16:39] That's why I hide those events (along with nick changes). Sometimes there are more join/part/quit/nick messages than real messages. :) === ahmed_ is now known as Ahmed_ [16:42] Hello [16:42] Ok I'm back, Mefisto- what were you sayign about my issue with sound drivers? (i think) [16:42] How do i turn off the history in the latest version of Kopete ? === chris_ is now known as putt1ck === ubuntu is now known as reksio === yofel_ is now known as yfoel === yfoel is now known as yofel === binarylooks_ is now known as binarylooks [16:57] I installed Thunderbird 3 on my Kubuntu 64 bits, but Lightning (the calendar) does not work. What can I do? [17:00] Hi, can anyone recommend some lowend video hardware for running 3 monitors, only requirement i have is that it should be able to run KDE smoothly (with composite/effects) atm i'm using an ATI evergreen card, but both the ATI and open source drivers are useless for my needs. [17:01] drivers useless how? [17:02] ATI evergreen card (?) [17:02] ATI: lag with composite, only 2 monitors.. Open source: High power usage, evergreen not fully implemented yet. [17:03] fabio333: 5000 series (5770 to be specific) [17:03] manual config or using ati gui? [17:04] Heres a big one- I have no sound. Any ideas? [17:04] putt1ck: I just installed the driver, an ran aticonfig tool [17:04] a good card i suppose, [17:05] putt1ck: but from what i've read on various forums etc, the drivers dosn't support the third monitor. [17:06] That's why i'm asking for an advise on which hardware to choose, i suppose i have to use 2 video cards to get 3 monitors running.. [17:06] I have had success with manual config [17:06] but not with 3 monitors :) [17:07] putt1ck: with dual? [17:07] yes [17:08] posted method on kubuntu forums somewhere [17:08] can't see why it wouldn't work with more [17:08] drean: dual monitor is ok on my ati [17:08] but only if X can see all of them [17:09] try arandr and see if it can see all the monitors [17:09] fabio333: yes, dual work fine here also, but still have lag when resizing a window. [17:09] does card have 3 ports or is it with a splitter cable? [17:11] putt1ck: 2 dva and 1 displayport [17:11] so should work in theory [17:11] It is very driver specific, and i dont think ATI supports that yet. [17:11] I'm running my dual on cheapo X1650 Pro [17:12] using open source drivers [17:12] no lag [17:12] drean: they say xrand is the solution, but every time i see a 3-monitor layout there 2 ati cards involved [17:12] not sure you can do it with only a (good) card [17:13] maybe these guys can help https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [17:13] only for the brave... [17:13] kjhvbuv [17:13] putt1ck: Nice. The open source drivers dosn't really support the new chip yet...i see that the X1650 is cheap, i might get one of those until the update the driver [17:14] putt1ck: pretty much willing to try anything...right now i'm in another operating system :/ [17:15] fabio333: i'll try that. [17:15] 1650 doing the business here [17:15] excellent value [17:16] My card isn't that expensive, i paid the same as 2 1650pro would cost me. [17:16] drean: im running lucid [17:16] the open source radeon support 3d acceleration up to r700 (hd 4800) [17:17] I get glxgears (full screen on monitor) 1500fps [17:17] fabio333: Okay [17:17] fabio333: yes, the newest chip isn't supported yet. [17:18] putt1ck: does your card have 2 DVI outputs ? [17:18] yes [17:19] sadly then into 2 DVI-VGA converters [17:19] cheap monitors we buy here :) [17:19] drean: make sure your card is not too old or lucid will not work properly (due to kms) [17:20] putt1ck: hehe :) [17:20] fabio333: such a jungle... :) [17:20] not too old, not too new ;) [17:21] I'm running karmic, guess that falls into that definition! [17:21] drean: there are big differences between radeon and fglrx [17:22] fabio333: yes, i know. [17:23] good luck with it [17:23] am i wrong or triple monitor means two cards? [17:23] I'm off :) === plassy_planschen is now known as plassy [17:25] fabio333: ATI made some weird solution on their new cards. I think it is called eyefinity...atm i have 3 monitors connected to my 5770 card..but the wrong operating system :) [17:26] you mean win7 [17:26] mmm === dark is now known as Guest6469 [17:36] hi [17:36] drean; you should ask in the #ati channel about eyefinity supoprt in linux [17:37] fabio333: I know that it isn't supported yet, in the ATI driver. [17:37] drean: so you have to add a second card [17:38] fabio333: yes..for now. That's why i was asking for advice on which low end/budget cards to choose [17:38] nick [17:41] can anyone tell me how to encrypt the internernet connection data on kubuntu 9.10 or where i can find the data? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [17:42] Guest6469: use ssh, ssl, vpn [17:43] only on my browser? [17:48] Hi room. I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 64 bit on my laptop (Sony Vaio E). Wireless LAN worked out-of-the-box but is very slow (works fine in Win7) [17:49] And if I try connecting a eth cable, it doesn't work at all [17:49] any idea how to troubleshoot this? [17:55] what is the chipset? [17:56] omnipotentduo: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset [17:59] Elefender, are you using the opensourced driver or the proprietary driver, if one is available [18:03] omnipotentduo: I'm not sure, how do I check? lsmod? [18:05] omnipotentduo: I think the driver could be this one: ath9k [18:06] can you get me the hexidecimal value for that wifi card? [18:09] omnipotentduo: I'm not sure what you mean :( Where do I find that value? [18:09] I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 and my sound card doesn't play multiple sounds like when i use my Firefox to play you tube clips and the music player in background. I's this normal? [18:09] open a terminal and type lspci | grep lan [18:10] happypinguin, open a terminal and type alsamixer [18:10] and look for your pcm(ithink it is) and turn the volume up on it [18:10] omnipotentduo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393439/ [18:10] have to get to class [18:11] will be about an hour before i am back [18:11] omnipotentduo: ty for your help, bye [18:11] thx man [18:11] did that work? [18:11] back in a while. [18:12] no [18:13] i think its flash. can it be? [18:16] hmm i have nvidia-glx-195 installed, is there any vdpau lib for this? [18:19] Does anyone have a Fortissimo IV sound card? === plassy is now known as plassy_shopping === drean_ is now known as drean === ahmed is now known as Ahmed === Ahmed is now known as Guest19248 [18:37] Hello, How to set display on latest version of Kpete [18:37] ? [18:38] is there a way to make sound work stable? sometimes I have to restart 3 times to make it work at all. and then it stops occacially while I am using TS. [18:38] kubuntu 9.10 here [18:38] ?? [18:39] was working perfect in 9.04. what changed since that version? how can I go back to a working sound system? [18:40] wizkoder: sound stuff tends to break randomly between versions of Ubuntu, I find. To be honest, in my experience, the answer is usually: you can't (easily) fix it; give up and wait for the next release and then cross your fingers [18:40] downgrading ALSA will often break stuff unfortunately [18:41] * Vroomfondle has working sound about three boots out of five [18:41] I tried to deinstall pulseaudio. changed nothing. then I tried to make the system prefer alsa. same problems. damn it [18:41] probably an ALSA driver problem [18:42] Next time I install a new version of kubuntu I will do that on a crap machine and try myself if its still working. [18:43] My bet is that everything works fine in ubuntu. And nobody at canonical gives a fuck about kubuntu :-( [18:43] Maybe somebody should tell them that gnome is ugly as hell [18:49] Thanks! To the guy last night (if he's on) who pointed out foremost as a tool to recover data. I let it run all night, and when I woke up, it had recovered all the files I had accidently deleted. [18:56] wizkoder: Please watch your profanity in here === Guest19248 is now known as Ahmed_ [18:57] Hello [18:58] !hi | Ahmed_ [18:58] Ahmed_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [18:58] Anyone knows how to run CCAM on ubuntu which software is been used to run CCAM card sharing for dreambox :) [18:58] Hi genii :) [18:59] genii: Yes sir ;-) Sorry, sometimes I get angry when things stop working that once worked perfect. Solved the problem by changing everything to pulseaudio. But this does not work with amarok. Hopefully next version of kubuntu will work again. [19:02] BAck, thanks ubottu :) [19:03] Thanks a lot [19:03] And is that the only software ? or something [19:03] What i #ubuntu ? [19:06] Ahmed_: Seems to be something about your question here: http://www.cccamforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34745 [19:07] How come Dolphin can't manage a simple copy-paste task? [19:07] Let me see [19:07] Thank genii [19:10] Hi [19:11] I have a question about installing a program I have downloaded === plassy_shopping is now known as plassy === keneb01 is now known as justme [19:12] Is it sudo secondlife-i686-1.23.5.136262.tar.bz2 ? === justme is now known as Guest20856 [19:12] faultline: no [19:13] bz2 is an archive, like zip [19:13] bzip2 -d secondlife... to extract it [19:13] then you should hopefully find a README or INSTALL file inside, or find instructions on the publisher's web site [19:14] (there isn't a completely standard way of installing software which has not been specifically packaged for Ubuntu so you need to follow their instructions) [19:14] hi. i have a flash drive that mounts as read only. how do i change permissions to read and write? is it possible to change permissions to 777? [19:14] the drive is fat32 fs [19:14] I would like to monitor how much bytes are downloaded over a period of time, let's say 4 weeks on my laptop, divided by ip address .... my laptop can be at home (one ip address) or at work (one ip addres) the ip address at home is always the same, the ip address at work is always the same .... is that possible? [19:17] no such file or directory...lol [19:17] do i need to install the bzip2 thing? [19:18] I am really sorry for the question, just got into linux from windows 7 rofl [19:20] faultline: I do not understand the question really [19:20] hi. i have a flash drive (fat 32 fs) that mounts as read only. how do i change permissions to read and write? is it possible to change permissions to 777? [19:24] faultline: a file like: filename.tar.bz2 has been compressed with tar and bzip2 together. You can uncompress it with: tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2 What they put in there, who knows. It can be a directory containing other things, or an executable file, or the C code to build the app, anything. [19:25] genii, faultline: you can get a listing of what is in that by using tar tjvf filename.tar.bz2. That way you know if there is a dir in there, or just a stack of disorganized files. === randy_ is now known as zdnar [19:30] hello? [19:34] this is very new to me [19:36] zdnar: Well, we see what you type, you see what we type, etc. When your name is in the text, your IRC program will usually highlight it for you. You can ask questions about Kubuntu and someone will usually answer, if someone is around who knows the answer to the question you have. [19:37] well,im useing linux mint i guess about the same [19:37] still working the bugs out of it [19:39] wine has givin me some trouble,espesialy wit software written after 1965 ha ha === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [19:40] zdnar: We give support for regular Kubuntu here. Mint, Ultimate, and some others are modified versions which provide their own avenues for support === ahmed is now known as Guest54456 [19:40] !mint [19:40] There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux) === Guest54456 is now known as Ahmed_ [19:41] Hello [19:41] ok thanks wrong channel see ya [19:41] What is Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS (Hardy Heron) ? And i was looking for CCAM server i just wanna know how that works really :) [19:42] Ubuntu 8.04 is the lastest Ubuntu LTS version, it was released in April, 2008 [19:42] And what is it used for ? :) and whats the difference between 9.10 ? [19:43] Ahmed_: LTS is Long Term Support. So 3 years it is updated and supported [19:43] I see [19:43] Ubuntu has two development cycles: one large (2 years) and one short (6 months) [19:43] I would like to monitor how much bytes are downloaded on my laptop over a period of time, let's say 4 weeks on my laptop, divided by ip address .... my laptop can be at home (one ip address) or at work (one ip addres) the ip address at home is always the same, the ip address at work is always the same .... is that possible? [19:44] And is that for Severs only ? or you can install it on intel based pc's [19:44] LTS versions mark the end of the 2-years cycle, LTS versions has suppert for 5 years and have fame to be more robust and stable [19:45] Doesnt it crash or gets any problem ? [19:45] the next LTS version will be Ubuntu 10.04, on April, 2010 [19:45] Like windows gets if you keep the XP running for 2 days haha [19:46] Ahmed_: the LTS release is different from Ubuntu Server (which also has an LTS release). [19:47] !lts [19:47] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04). The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [19:47] Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server both have LTS releases. [19:49] Ahmed_: And I'm saying "Ubuntu Desktop" only to differentiate them. The proper terminology (I think) is "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu Server". A notable difference between the two is that Ubuntu server does not have a window manager (a GUI interface like Gnome or KDE) unless you explicitly install it. [19:51] ct529: You can make a little bash script which greps out the amount of traffic on your adapter and stores it to a file, then call it as a post-down directive in the /etc/network/interfaces file for specific adapter (eth0 eth1 wlan0 whatever) [19:52] genii: it sounds clever but would not know where to start from ;) [19:57] ct529: A 2 line file named check-traffic.sh maybe... with: #!/bin/bash as first line, for second: ifconfig eth0| grep 'RX bytes' >> /home/yourname/traffic-stats for instance. Then in the set of lines for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces you have: post-down /home/yourname/check-traffic.sh assuming you saved it into your home directory [19:59] I do not understand the second part "Then in the set of lines for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces you have: post-down /home/yourname/check-traffic.sh" [19:59] genii: how does /etc/network/interface enter into play? [20:03] genii: does ifconfig eth0| grep 'RX bytes' return the bytes downloaded since the computer was switched on? [20:04] ct529: Yes [20:04] genii: so I just need to run it before shtiing down every day [20:04] ct529: on mine today it returns: RX bytes:32204112 (32.2 MB) TX bytes:3986165 (3.9 MB) [20:05] genii: RX bytes:40336454 (40.3 MB) TX bytes:5997388 (5.9 MB) [20:05] genii: but if I move between home and work, how do i know which packets are on on ip address and which are on the other? [20:05] ct529: Yes, thats what making it as a post-down directive in that file does (records traffic when adapter goes offline). So it appends with the >> to the file and you have a running tally [20:06] genii: I do not understand ..... what is post-down? [20:07] genii: is that bash syntax? [20:07] How do I change boot drive? I have copied this / partition into a new one identical and want to boot from the new one? [20:08] ct529: My boss wants me ... one minute [20:09] genii: you are right [20:09] genii: in the file /etc/network/interfaces [20:10] genii: I add the list "post-down path-to-script-check-traffic.sh" [20:10] genii: is that right? (when you come back) [20:11] sap [20:12] n8w: sap? [20:13] ct529: whats up:) [20:14] ok sry, hi all:) [20:14] n8w: hi! I had not realised that sap was for what's up .... :D [20:15] ct529: Back. Yes, thats correct. Make sure the file is also executable. To answer ealier Q - post-down is not a bash directive, it is a line which if in the interfaces file is recognised by the utilities which bring the interfaces up and down as something to take action on. [20:16] genii: thanks a lot .... this is the file now http://paste.ubuntu.com/393527/ [20:16] ct529: OK, looking [20:17] ct529: As for the filename ... only one period would be better, but it should still execute fine if the #!/bin/bash line is there in it [20:23] genii:yes it is [20:24] genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393529/ <=this is it [20:27] ct529: Should be good then. May want to test to make sure it works (easiest is logoff-reboot because your gui is handling the network) [20:28] ( then check contents of the traffic-stats file) [20:28] genii: thanks a lot! [20:28] genii: rebooting [20:35] How do I change boot drive? I have copied this / partition into a new one identical and want to boot from the new one? ANyone? [20:35] Oxymoron: rewrite grub, change UUIDs in /etc/fstab [20:36] Also change UUID in grub ... [20:36] llutz: What does that mean more specific? [20:36] and how to do it most importantly. [20:37] I dont wanna break something, I spent the whole day waiting for 500 GB to move around from different partitions and harddrives. [20:37] Oxymoron: Is the new / on the same drive or a different drive? [20:37] I want to boot into the new one and see that its working before removing the real one (This one) [20:37] genii: Different drive [20:38] i have a problem with my nvidia G105 M video card there s no supported driver for linux right now am i right anyone have a solution [20:38] Ox?ymoron: And are you going to use old drive to boot from or replacing it entirely with new drive [20:38] * genii smacks his touchpad [20:40] genii: I am using an already used drive, not a new one first of all. I have rescrabmled all my partitions in a new order sort of speak. Then I want to dualboot from the new disc and remove the boot partitions from the "old" one and then move data from the new one to the old one :D [20:41] hi there does anybody know about this issue [20:41] i have a problem with my nvidia G105 M video card there s no supported driver for linux right now am i right anyone have a solution === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [20:50] Oxymoron: I'll ask the question in a clearer way. The drive whose MBR the grub is on now... is it remaining physically in the machine and on the same ribbon/wire it uses now ... or will the other drive become the drive where the computer looks first for the MBR and bootloader? Because.. if original remains you need only change the UUID in grub.cfg or menu.lst to new / but if second drive replaces it, then you also need to install grub onto the MBR of that [20:50] one. [20:50] Sorry on lag, I'm at work. [20:52] genii: But if I have been copy all files from the original one it shouldnt need any particular new structure, I just have to install grub bootloader into the new one, right? But could it become any conflict if both has grub installed at the same time? Like the computer dont know which drive to boot from if both are bootable? [20:53] Oxymoron: Second drive does not need grub if first drive remains. [20:53] Work, afk [20:53] genii: Basicly I just have to install grub into the MBR of the new one? But what about the old one? === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away [20:59] Oxymoron: The computer doesn't care how many bootable drives you have. What it cares about is which drive to begin from. If you remove the drive it currently begins from, the drive which replaces it must have a bootloader also. But if you just add a drive, then you only need to tell the first drive's bootloader now that "hey, there is an operating system also now on drive2, partition X" === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [21:06] Oxymoron: Also this may be the best time to ask - how EXACTLY did you go about copying all the files in your / ? Because if you did not preserve permissions it will already be a disaster before you begin anything else [21:09] genii: Ah alright, so I really have to make sure the new bootloader on MBR really work before deleting this one I am on for the moment. Anyway, I used EASUS Partition Master on Hirons Boot CD because everything else, I couldnt boot from WIn7 from Grub and oh its a long story I dont even want to bother explain :D Anyway, I just copied the partition right straight forward from the /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdc3 and I guess it should [21:09] preserve permissions? [21:13] Oxymoron: If it was some raw copy of partition to partition you should be OK. But also in this case you may experience problems because raw copying also duplicates the UUID and confuses the bootloader [21:15] Work, 5-7 minutes [21:19] genii: Hmm, I am not sure if it was raw copy, I think they called i file to file transfer instead of sector to sector transfer, but I am not sure if it was for NTFS or not. But yeah, I will keep this one on /dev/sda1 until I know the new one work "flawless" with grub, WIndows 7 and so on. But I wonder if I maybe should format the new disk to ext4, install a fresh copy of Karmic and transfer /home directory to the new one instead [21:19] to make sure its working. I think I *** some things and have heavy packages that doesnt disappear with every upgrades and updates everywhere. I am sorry to say, but Kubuntu soon becoming WIndows if nobody fix the old file trash problem, which means new updates should remove the old one completely so it doesnt take to much space. [21:19] I know I have been having some trouble my transfer boot partitions before with access, permissions and so on. THis time I will not make the same mistake. [21:22] Hi can anyone tell me how i can turn off the knetwork keyring feature so it wont ask me for a password each time I boot the pc? [21:23] Oxymoron: The simplest way is to do a new install from CD to the partition you want to move to, because it will automatically do all the dirty stuff behind the scenes of configuring your bootloader, etc etc. The approach you are currently taking is far more headaches because there are a lot of unknowns.. like "are the permissions intact?" "did I copy it into an NTFS filesystem?" "Do I have 2 partitions now with duplicate UUID?" and some others [21:24] faultline: KDE's network manager should be using kwallet and not the Gnome keyring. Do you have both desktop environments installed? [21:25] Genii: No, my bad- its using kwallet your right [21:26] faultline: You can use a null password for kwallet and then it will never ask again [21:26] genii: How can I do that? I am very new, just now getting the basics... [21:26] genii: Yeah, but how do I get apache server settings remain intact, app settings and mostly the eyecandy settings for cairo dock and plasma desktop? I dont want to do a clean install and refix all that again. But I think I would get a more cleaner system and more things will just work because GNU/LInux and Ubuntu tend to be bloated, overcrowded and conflict efter awhile sadly enought because you cannot actually maintain all temp [21:26] files, new updates and everything. What happens with older versions of apps btw, does it really disappear and get replaced by the new one? Because my partition is like 70 GB, almost no documents or files on it except root, apps and so on. And now I only have like 5 GB left :S [21:27] hi guys, I'm having some real strange audio issues, and I was hoping someone in her ecould help m eout [21:28] faultline: Basically to delete ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc and then next time kwallet runs, use just Enter both times for a password [21:29] genii: Then the new Lucid Lynx will be released next month. Maybe I could use this one until then and do a cleanup later on? [21:29] Oxymoron: You have too many varied questions for me to properly answer in the time I have available away from work right now [21:29] genii: Is there anybody else in here to get support from then or discuss with? :) [21:30] Oxymoron: Since your Q isn't really desktop-environment specific but more about bootload, etc you could try also in main #ubuntu [21:30] Zhenya are you having problems with your sound drivers too? [21:30] Oxymoron: Alternately keep asking here every 10-20 minutes or so [21:30] faultline: yes like crazy. [21:30] sound will play out of amarok for example but not the broswer or vice versa [21:31] and then i will get random "hardware no longer connected" message [21:31] I have issues with it as well... [21:31] I am not sure how to activate the drivers either [21:32] Im about to try sudo jockey-kde [21:33] Nope [21:33] No go [21:34] faultline: i have no idea hwat that even is [21:37] genii: I am not in a rush, I can wait. I have deep conversations paralell to here. Its not really really important to fix this, now my system works mostly :) But I would migrate from the 120 GB to 320 GB because the 120 is to small for WIndows 7 and Kubuntu Karmic sadly enough ... They just drain extremly much space in the long way run sort of speak. But after Lucid become extremly stable with KDE 4.4.1 I think I am going to [21:37] freeze updates completly and never update until next stable release 10.10 in october and so on. Previously I have always been curious about alpha, beta and new features but in the end I have learned about mysefl that I only want a stable flawless system and not a hightech, flashy system with new buggy apps. [21:44] umm, well, if someone noticed my pleas for help after wrecking my sound system, I think I know what the problem is [21:45] in a quest to find a worthy audio player, I foolishly installed pulse-audio [21:45] I've also read that it might be a hazard to remove. did anyone else expiriance problems with removeing pulse audio? [21:50] avihay: I experienced problem to have pulse audio, when I removed it the audio just worked :D [21:51] avihay: I would remove it until the *buntu team have implemented pulse audio properly, I think they will until the Lucid version in April. [21:51] I installed it by mistake, honestly [21:51] :-> [21:55] avihay: I dont think it should be hard just removing it. I am not sure if its enough to delete only pulse-audio package though. You may ask someone else i think. [21:56] ok, thanks, I'll ask in offtopic [22:02] avihay: I am not sure, but there should be support in #pulse, #alsa or similar channel, not sure the right one though [22:02] !pulse [22:02] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [22:03] avihay: Its not kubuntu-offtopic anyway. [22:03] well, it's actually a matter of how well the package was packaged [22:03] ontopic is offtopic too :-> [22:05] ok, the posts I was reading were from 208, so I guess it's fine now [22:08] I have an older laptop with a linksys wireless card. System shows the card as 'inactive'. Do I need a driver for it, or what? [22:08] avihay: wow, thats a long time ago... [22:10] well, actually, I found a solution to mplayer in that thread that didn't include removing pulse audio. maybe I was experiencing a disappearing bug with VLC [22:10] hmm [22:10] vdpau dont work for me :( [22:11] any tips how to run vdpau? [22:11] hi all [22:12] well, now all the soundsystems work [22:12] i can't poweroff anymore from the GUI, I can only poweroff from the terminal..how to fix? i'm on kubuntu karmic 2.6.32 upgraded from intrepid and from jaunty [22:12] now, to the mythTV project... [22:13] n8 [22:14] well Man, it's an ugly solution, but you can add a shortcut to the menu to run the shutdown now command, and add it to your favorits [22:16] and if I were you, I would have opened a terminal, killed plasma, and then ran it for terminal to see if there are any specific error messages when you click the shutdown === jono_ is now known as jono [22:45] Repeating my problem: Kubuntu sent me here. I just installed the KDE desktop and when I try to log in, I get so far as entering my username and password, the animation starts, and then everything but the mouse freezes. [22:46] Ignore that first sentence. I was sent to KDE earlier but they didn't know what was wrong. [22:48] Logomachist_: is it a clean install, or did you just install some drivers (ATI catalyst 10.2)? [22:48] I installed a driver for my graphics card; that's it. [22:49] Logomachist_: and is that an ATI card? [22:49] Yes [22:50] Logomachist_: Okay, i have the same problem, i know the catalyst 10.1 is working. [22:50] The driver is named "ati-driver-installer-10-2-x86.x86_64.run [22:51] hi [22:51] allo [22:51] HI [22:51] how can i enable auto mount on my 2 HDD ? [22:52] Is it possible to change from 32bit karmic koala to 64bit? [22:52] without losing my currently installed packages and files === jono_ is now known as jono [22:53] I guess no, isn't the same core [22:53] RedXIII: I'd think not [22:54] what you should do, is back up your installed stuff, assuming they're still in the apt-get cache folder [22:58] Logomachist_: You could try driver version 10.1 [22:59] Yes, that's what I'm doing, thanks ^_^ === joshua is now known as Guest40104 [23:12] It installed, now I'm going to reboot and find out whether that does the stuff... [23:12] ? [23:13] in which package is dist-upgrade? [23:15] infecto: dist-upgrade is a parameter to apt-get [23:16] drean: yep, but i remeber the tool that with option -d switch to new development version [23:18] infecto: ah, okay. No idea then [23:19] I'm trying to get the newest Kubuntu on a fresh Intrepid install and I added the repository link to my apt/sources and I got this error WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! xserver-common xserver-xorg-core [23:19] Install these packages without verification [y/N]? [23:19] is this good or bad? [23:20] tis fine usually [23:24] Typos_King: how do I get the new kubuntu? [23:24] download the .iso :| [23:24] all my sources are checked Typos_King and my ppa says I need a gpg key where do I get that I can't find it on the kubuntu site [23:24] what's wrong with 9.1? [23:25] no sound on jaunty, or karamic and lucid isn't ready so im back on Intrepid [23:25] I just don't remember how to get the newest kubuntu stable [23:26] hehe [23:26] what about karmic? === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away [23:26] isn't karmic the latest stable? [23:30] no Typos Im taking about kde 4x [23:30] no Typos_King Im taking about kde 4x [23:30] right.... karmic comes with kde 4.x [23:30] they all do [23:31] i want 4.2 im on 4.1 [23:31] soooooooo [23:31] .... [23:31] what's wrong with 4.1? [23:31] :P [23:32] everything [23:34] have you checked the repositories for it? [23:35] hi plz [23:35] allo fork [23:37] I think I got it now [23:37] someone say my name let me check my colors [23:47] my panel in kde4 locked up and i had to kill it with ctrl-alt-escape. how do I reload it? [23:50] * Typos_King dunnos the service name :| [23:52] plasma-desktop? or is it a plasmoid? [23:52] duckx0r: just log out and back in :| [23:53] Typos_King, i'm looking for a command i can just run and restore it since i have a lot of things open [23:54] Typos_King, like in kde 3 you could just run "kicker" and it would be back [23:54] and i don't have the command "plasma" [23:56] .. [23:56] duckx0r: found this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665556 [23:57] i can't write in the #radein channel... [23:57] #radeon [23:57] Typos_King, thanks, however it says to execute the "plasma" command, which I don't have :P [23:57] you mean, you 'can't send to channel'? [23:57] hehe [23:57] yes [23:57] why? [23:57] duckx0r: so I noticed hehe [23:58] plasma-desktop command [23:58] fabio333: that means the channel is set on... dunno the mode, is a mode set by the channel ops where only registered nicks can 'send' to channel [23:58] duckx0r: plasma gives nothing? [23:58] Typos_King: thank you [23:59] Typos_King, ahhhhhh i forgot about doing that [23:59] Typos_King, the command was plasma-desktop