[03:58] <doctormo> pleia2: When is the next meeting for ubuntu learning?
[03:59] <pleia2> doctormo: I'll finalize that now, sec
[03:59] <doctormo> I'm going to write a blog post about the status of the learning project.
[04:01] <pleia2> Monday the 15th at 23:00 UTC
[04:01] <pleia2> now if I can just figure out how to select and close that on the doodle poll, this darn interface :)
[04:02] <pleia2> http://www.doodle.com/sftcqq8xzmdw3i6e
[04:02] <pleia2> there we go, all official like
[04:03] <pleia2> the poll says I can't make it then, but I can actually, my dates were just fuzzy outlines
[04:03] <pleia2> s/dates/times
[04:04] <doctormo> pleia2: What's the status of the moodle site?
[04:04] <doctormo> pleia2: Branding? theme? content? published? (I'd interigate cprofit but he's not here)
[04:04] <pleia2> we never got a theme
[04:04] <pleia2> Vantrax: any update on that?
[04:05] <pleia2> so far all we have is basic moodle functionality, we can add classes now if we want
[04:05] <pleia2> but it's not pretty-designed/branded or anything
[04:07] <pleia2> if someone wants to jump in I think that's an option
[05:18] <doctormo> pleia2: Do you have the agenda for the meeting?
[05:19] <pleia2> doctormo: not really, nigel put something on but I don't have a solid plan aside from "catch up"
[05:19] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Agenda
[17:10] <AlanBell> pleia2: I would be interested in doing a moodle theme (Aubergine I presume)
[17:13] <pleia2> AlanBell: great!
[17:19] <AlanBell> great, I am about to get on a train, but lets talk later about what you had in mind for it
[17:21] <pleia2> ok :)
[20:35] <AlanBell> back now
[20:37] <mhall119|work> AlanBell: are you in the UK?
[20:37] <AlanBell> yup
[20:37] <mhall119|work> I just sent someone from #ubuntu over to you guys, jugglerbry
[20:38] <mhall119|work> he's trying to start giving away donated computers with Ubuntu
[20:38] <AlanBell> cool
[20:38] <AlanBell> can't see him in #ubuntu-uk right now
[20:38] <mhall119|work> he said he was going to jump in
[20:39] <mhall119|work> maybe he meant later...
[20:39] <mhall119|work> or maybe he didn't mean the IRC channel..
[20:39] <AlanBell> this place does recycling on the south coast http://www.jamiescomputerclub.org.uk/home/home.php
[20:40] <AlanBell> but it would be great to have more organisations doing disposal/reuse of computers
[20:41] <mhall119|work> cool, yeah he mentioned needing to find a recycler
[20:51] <AlanBell> so where is the Moodle? what do you want the theme to be like? what content is going in the moodle?
[22:31] <pleia2> doctormo: good post
[22:36] <cprofitt> post?
[22:36] <pleia2> cprofitt: he blogged about the project
[22:36] <cprofitt> url?
[22:36] <doctormo> hey cprofitt
[22:37] <cprofitt> hey doctormo
[22:38] <pleia2> http://doctormo.ubuntu-ma.us/2010/03/11/ubuntu-learning-where-are-we/
[22:39] <cprofitt> doctormo: can you do something for me?
[22:39] <cprofitt> given the two sites:
[22:39] <cprofitt> http://main.newyork-ubuntu.com/Main/HomePage
[22:39] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam
[22:39] <cprofitt> review them both and tell me what you would do to improve the overall function of the two as a 'team'
[22:40] <cprofitt> pleia2: your thoughts would be welcome as well
[22:40] <cprofitt> I am trying to gather them to discuss the issue with ausimage
[22:40] <doctormo> cprofitt: You need to remove or move the community team text from your banner. it's hard to read.
[22:40] <cprofitt> and need the 'reflection' of others to ensure my thoughts are not just 'my own pet peves'.
[22:41] <cprofitt> in your 'review' could you specify which site each issue is with if it is a specific site
[22:41] <pleia2> cprofitt: yikes, you have people sign up on LP and on the website?
[22:41] <cprofitt> exactly -- things like that
[22:42] <pleia2> for PA our member list is just the LP list (since that has a map - if people want to disclose location)
[22:42] <cprofitt> and the sign-up on LP is goverened by ausimage getting an email from them
[22:42] <cprofitt> the emails to not go to any other officers
[22:42] <pleia2> why not set it to a moderated team and have people apply? then any admin can approve
[22:42] <cprofitt> it is a moderated team
[22:42] <doctormo> We only encourage people to sign up to lp if they want to help out.
[22:42] <pleia2> also in PA, our ubuntupennsylvania.org is *just* a blog with links to our other resources
[22:43] <doctormo> Normal folks should just join the mailing list.
[22:43] <cprofitt> but when I approved a person I was told NOT to do so unless ausimage had gotten an email with their details
[22:43] <pleia2> well, we have a gallery and planet too
[22:43] <doctormo> cprofitt: We don't stop people joining at all, we have a time limit of about a year on each account.
[22:43]  * cprofitt nods
[22:43] <cprofitt> so I am not crazy then
[22:44] <pleia2> cprofitt: but signup on the website is instant?
[22:44] <cprofitt> I do not like the narrow and closed format to the process
[22:44] <cprofitt> pleia2: I believe so
[22:44] <cprofitt> since it requires all the information ausimage asks for
[22:44] <doctormo> cprofitt: It sounds a little crazy, if how you describe it is the requirement
[22:44] <cprofitt> he controle the website
[22:45] <cprofitt> I have 'pushed' a bit in the past...
[22:45] <cprofitt> but I really think I need to 'take the issue' on hand
[22:45] <cprofitt> head on
[22:45] <cprofitt> I meant to say
[22:46] <cprofitt> but I wanted a sanity check
[22:46] <doctormo> Although I can't tell how to join
[22:46] <cprofitt> I would prefer we allow people to join freely
[22:46] <cprofitt> and I would prefer the website be a funnel to the wiki
[22:47] <cprofitt> or at the very least avoid a duplication of content
[22:48] <cprofitt> pleia2: how long and how well do you know ausimage?
[22:48] <cprofitt> doctormo: nice post...
[22:49] <doctormo> cprofitt: Way back we used to restrict our joining process.
[22:50] <pleia2> cprofitt: I doubt I know him better than you do
[22:50] <doctormo> cprofitt: But then at one meeting, Mako Hill made a very compelling case for not doing that.
[22:50]  * cprofitt nods to pleia2 
[22:50] <doctormo> cprofitt: Although the wiki is a terrible place to put organisation content.
[22:51] <cprofitt> what do you mean by organization content?
[22:51] <cprofitt> things that do not change much -- like structure and by-laws?
[22:53] <pleia2> cprofitt: this is the PA one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam
[22:54] <cprofitt> looks good...
[22:54] <cprofitt> I like the wiki for NY State...
[22:54] <pleia2> so we put our event info and planning stuff on there, meeting agendas
[22:55] <cprofitt> but the fact that our website if maintained by ausimage and does not have any of our 2010 events on it...
[22:55] <cprofitt> and the double joining process...
[22:55] <cprofitt> I just feel it confuses people.
[22:55] <pleia2> it does
[22:55] <pleia2> and confusion quickly leads to *give up*
[22:56] <cprofitt> yep
[22:56] <cprofitt> pleia2: would you be willing to mediate a discussion with aus and myself
[22:56] <cprofitt> if necessary
[22:56] <cprofitt> I respect what he has done... and want his continued cooperation
[22:57] <cprofitt> but with over a year of trying to be subtle with the issue I suspect a discussion could go sour
[22:57] <cprofitt> I would to avoid that...
[22:57] <pleia2> yeah, I can do that
[22:57] <cprofitt> but having a 3rd party might help
[22:57] <cprofitt> especially one I know aus knows and respects
[22:57] <cprofitt> thanks
[22:59] <doctormo> cprofitt: pleia2 is turning into Diana Troy of Ubuntu.
[22:59] <pleia2> cprofitt: we get a lot of people joining via the forums, so I made: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509240
[22:59] <pleia2> lol
[22:59] <cprofitt> lol
[22:59] <cprofitt> pleai has a level head...
[22:59] <cprofitt> and playswell with others
[23:00] <cprofitt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970127
[23:01] <cprofitt> I did the same thing
[23:01] <cprofitt> but with the dual join -- there seem to be one or two people a week that do not get accepted
[23:02] <cprofitt> right now we have 11 proposed members
[23:02] <cprofitt> only a few from 2010...
[23:02] <cprofitt> so I am exagerating a bit...
[23:02] <cprofitt> but I just hate to see people left hanging
[23:03] <cprofitt> and do not feel as though the team benefits from the restrictions
[23:04] <pleia2> yeah
[23:05] <Pendulum> cprofitt: I just wanted to join the mailing list to see if I wanted to actually join the LoCo (since I'm hours away from y'all), but got a bit intimidated by the entire process
[23:06] <cprofitt> Pendulum: thanks for telling me that...
[23:06] <cprofitt> I am sorry you felt intimidated...
[23:06] <cprofitt> I am now more resolved to 'change' the process
[23:06] <Pendulum> sorry, just thought you might want the input that it might be a bit complicated for someone new and shy
[23:06] <cprofitt> I do not want confusion or intimidation
[23:06] <cprofitt> no need for an apology...
[23:06] <cprofitt> CLOSED is for Apple not Ubuntu
[23:07] <cprofitt> and I need to take the issue head o
[23:07] <cprofitt> doctormo: Pendulum and pleia2 have confirmed that I am, indeed, not crazy
[23:07] <pleia2> well, not about this anyway :)
[23:07] <Pendulum> it's a moot point now as I'm leaving NY in a few months. i probably should have mentioned it sooner
[23:07] <pleia2> you *are* crazy about football
[23:07] <cprofitt> I might not get NFL ticket this year
[23:08] <cprofitt> my life is kinda changing...
[23:08] <doctormo> cprofitt: I can only confirm that your not more crazy than me ;-)
[23:08] <cprofitt> lol
[23:08] <cprofitt> doctormo: you and I are a very similar cloth I think
[23:08] <cprofitt> when we finally meet we have to have a beer and just talk
[23:09] <doctormo> yes
[23:09] <cprofitt> Guiness a favorite of yours?
[23:09] <doctormo> Maybe in a neutral state, Vermont sounds good :-D
[23:09] <cprofitt> Vermont?
[23:09] <cprofitt> I was thinking more like Mass
[23:09] <pleia2> lol
[23:09] <cprofitt> when I get there
[23:10] <doctormo> Aight, it's a date
[23:10] <cprofitt> I might be up there this spring... or fall
[23:10] <cprofitt> Near Pittsfield
[23:11] <cprofitt> Are you familiar with that area?
[23:19] <doctormo> cprofitt: Not yet
[23:19] <cprofitt> ah...
[23:19] <cprofitt> its very close the NY State line
[23:20] <doctormo> cprofitt: I'll be honest, I don't drive, my wife can't drive, we are City dwellers and when we go to Vermont, it's by coach
[23:20] <cprofitt> ah....
[23:20] <doctormo> Oh wait I think I've seen Pittsfield on a map
[23:20] <cprofitt> well... we can work something out...
[23:20] <cprofitt> I know the bus does go there
[23:20] <cprofitt> so I could pick ya up or some such
[23:20] <doctormo> cprofitt: I can get about half way accross the state before the commuter rail stops.
[23:21] <cprofitt> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Stockbridge,+MA&sll=39.896145,-76.610445&sspn=0.010799,0.016265&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Stockbridge,+Berkshire,+Massachusetts&ll=42.281373,-73.320694&spn=0.333257,0.520477&t=h&z=11
[23:21] <cprofitt> lol... that is a long URL
[23:22] <cprofitt> Its near Tanglewood.
[23:23] <cprofitt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanglewood
[23:24] <doctormo> I love the new Google Biking directions, they're so useless. By car it's 130 miles from boston, on bike it's 181 miles. ha
[23:24] <cprofitt> lol
[23:24] <Pendulum> depending on when y'all are doing this, I may be just south of Springfield at that point so if you're willing to have a crasher, I could potentially pick doctormo up somewhere for the rest of getting there
[23:25] <cprofitt> sounds like a potential plan
[23:25] <cprofitt> it would either be this may or next veterans day
[23:26] <Pendulum> cprofitt: when in May?
[23:26] <cprofitt> Memorial Day
[23:29] <doctormo> cprofitt: Interesting
[23:30] <doctormo> Maybe we could have a quick LoCo NorthEast meet
[23:30] <Pendulum> doctormo: btw, would anyone have an objection if once I'm right on the MA border in CT I occasionally go to MA LoCo events? Last I checked there's no real active CT LoCo and I don't have the energy to create one
[23:31] <IdleOne> Only if you wear a sign stating you are not actually a resident of MA
[23:31] <IdleOne> :)
[23:31] <Pendulum> heh
[23:32] <IdleOne> I don't think any loco would have a problem with a fellow Ubuntu lover going to events
[23:33] <cprofitt> It would be cool with me...
[23:34] <IdleOne> then again them MA people have a mean nickname
[23:34] <IdleOne> maybe it is well deserved
[23:35] <doctormo> http://imagebin.ca/view/KY6yqqA.html <- this is really funny
[23:35] <doctormo> Pendulum: Your very welcome to attend any MA events
[23:36] <doctormo> IdleOne: MA people? what's the nickname?
[23:38] <Pendulum> IdleOne: is that the one that refers to their driving style?
[23:38] <Pendulum> (not Ubuntu-specific)
[23:39] <IdleOne> doctormo: I didnt mean the Ubuntu MA people. I meant in general but it is a stupid joke anyway...
[23:40] <doctormo> Pendulum: Boston people drive like they've never seen a DVLA, they use wits instead of skill and are constantly on edge.
[23:45] <Pendulum> doctormo: I know. Have you ever heard what non-MA people call MA drivers? (it's not actually something I can say in this channel)
[23:47] <doctormo> Pendulum: Ah well, at least they have good clam chowder.
[23:48] <cprofitt> Maine has better...
[23:48] <cprofitt> :-)
[23:50] <doctormo> Nah, I've had several, maybe it's my british taste, or maybe it's that the clams taste faintly of tea.
[23:52] <Pendulum> New England clam chowdah is yummy :)