=== doctormo__ is now known as doctormo === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [03:58] pleia2: When is the next meeting for ubuntu learning? [03:59] doctormo: I'll finalize that now, sec [03:59] I'm going to write a blog post about the status of the learning project. [04:01] Monday the 15th at 23:00 UTC [04:01] now if I can just figure out how to select and close that on the doodle poll, this darn interface :) [04:02] http://www.doodle.com/sftcqq8xzmdw3i6e [04:02] there we go, all official like [04:03] the poll says I can't make it then, but I can actually, my dates were just fuzzy outlines [04:03] s/dates/times [04:04] pleia2: What's the status of the moodle site? [04:04] pleia2: Branding? theme? content? published? (I'd interigate cprofit but he's not here) [04:04] we never got a theme [04:04] Vantrax: any update on that? [04:05] so far all we have is basic moodle functionality, we can add classes now if we want [04:05] but it's not pretty-designed/branded or anything [04:07] if someone wants to jump in I think that's an option [05:18] pleia2: Do you have the agenda for the meeting? [05:19] doctormo: not really, nigel put something on but I don't have a solid plan aside from "catch up" [05:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Agenda [17:10] pleia2: I would be interested in doing a moodle theme (Aubergine I presume) [17:13] AlanBell: great! [17:19] great, I am about to get on a train, but lets talk later about what you had in mind for it [17:21] ok :) [20:35] back now [20:37] AlanBell: are you in the UK? [20:37] yup [20:37] I just sent someone from #ubuntu over to you guys, jugglerbry [20:38] he's trying to start giving away donated computers with Ubuntu [20:38] cool [20:38] can't see him in #ubuntu-uk right now [20:38] he said he was going to jump in [20:39] maybe he meant later... [20:39] or maybe he didn't mean the IRC channel.. [20:39] this place does recycling on the south coast http://www.jamiescomputerclub.org.uk/home/home.php [20:40] but it would be great to have more organisations doing disposal/reuse of computers [20:41] cool, yeah he mentioned needing to find a recycler [20:51] so where is the Moodle? what do you want the theme to be like? what content is going in the moodle? === pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: March 15, 2010 @ 23:00 UTC | Support in #ubuntu [22:31] doctormo: good post [22:36] post? [22:36] cprofitt: he blogged about the project [22:36] url? [22:36] hey cprofitt [22:37] hey doctormo [22:38] http://doctormo.ubuntu-ma.us/2010/03/11/ubuntu-learning-where-are-we/ [22:39] doctormo: can you do something for me? [22:39] given the two sites: [22:39] http://main.newyork-ubuntu.com/Main/HomePage [22:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam [22:39] review them both and tell me what you would do to improve the overall function of the two as a 'team' [22:40] pleia2: your thoughts would be welcome as well [22:40] I am trying to gather them to discuss the issue with ausimage [22:40] cprofitt: You need to remove or move the community team text from your banner. it's hard to read. [22:40] and need the 'reflection' of others to ensure my thoughts are not just 'my own pet peves'. [22:41] in your 'review' could you specify which site each issue is with if it is a specific site [22:41] cprofitt: yikes, you have people sign up on LP and on the website? [22:41] exactly -- things like that [22:42] for PA our member list is just the LP list (since that has a map - if people want to disclose location) [22:42] and the sign-up on LP is goverened by ausimage getting an email from them [22:42] the emails to not go to any other officers [22:42] why not set it to a moderated team and have people apply? then any admin can approve [22:42] it is a moderated team [22:42] We only encourage people to sign up to lp if they want to help out. [22:42] also in PA, our ubuntupennsylvania.org is *just* a blog with links to our other resources [22:43] Normal folks should just join the mailing list. [22:43] but when I approved a person I was told NOT to do so unless ausimage had gotten an email with their details [22:43] well, we have a gallery and planet too [22:43] cprofitt: We don't stop people joining at all, we have a time limit of about a year on each account. [22:43] * cprofitt nods [22:43] so I am not crazy then [22:44] cprofitt: but signup on the website is instant? [22:44] I do not like the narrow and closed format to the process [22:44] pleia2: I believe so [22:44] since it requires all the information ausimage asks for [22:44] cprofitt: It sounds a little crazy, if how you describe it is the requirement [22:44] he controle the website [22:45] I have 'pushed' a bit in the past... [22:45] but I really think I need to 'take the issue' on hand [22:45] head on [22:45] I meant to say [22:46] but I wanted a sanity check [22:46] Although I can't tell how to join [22:46] I would prefer we allow people to join freely [22:46] and I would prefer the website be a funnel to the wiki [22:47] or at the very least avoid a duplication of content [22:48] pleia2: how long and how well do you know ausimage? [22:48] doctormo: nice post... [22:49] cprofitt: Way back we used to restrict our joining process. [22:50] cprofitt: I doubt I know him better than you do [22:50] cprofitt: But then at one meeting, Mako Hill made a very compelling case for not doing that. [22:50] * cprofitt nods to pleia2 [22:50] cprofitt: Although the wiki is a terrible place to put organisation content. [22:51] what do you mean by organization content? [22:51] things that do not change much -- like structure and by-laws? [22:53] cprofitt: this is the PA one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam [22:54] looks good... [22:54] I like the wiki for NY State... [22:54] so we put our event info and planning stuff on there, meeting agendas [22:55] but the fact that our website if maintained by ausimage and does not have any of our 2010 events on it... [22:55] and the double joining process... [22:55] I just feel it confuses people. [22:55] it does [22:55] and confusion quickly leads to *give up* [22:56] yep [22:56] pleia2: would you be willing to mediate a discussion with aus and myself [22:56] if necessary [22:56] I respect what he has done... and want his continued cooperation [22:57] but with over a year of trying to be subtle with the issue I suspect a discussion could go sour [22:57] I would to avoid that... [22:57] yeah, I can do that [22:57] but having a 3rd party might help [22:57] especially one I know aus knows and respects [22:57] thanks [22:59] cprofitt: pleia2 is turning into Diana Troy of Ubuntu. [22:59] cprofitt: we get a lot of people joining via the forums, so I made: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509240 [22:59] lol [22:59] lol [22:59] pleai has a level head... [22:59] and playswell with others [23:00] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970127 [23:01] I did the same thing [23:01] but with the dual join -- there seem to be one or two people a week that do not get accepted [23:02] right now we have 11 proposed members [23:02] only a few from 2010... [23:02] so I am exagerating a bit... [23:02] but I just hate to see people left hanging [23:03] and do not feel as though the team benefits from the restrictions [23:04] yeah [23:05] cprofitt: I just wanted to join the mailing list to see if I wanted to actually join the LoCo (since I'm hours away from y'all), but got a bit intimidated by the entire process [23:06] Pendulum: thanks for telling me that... [23:06] I am sorry you felt intimidated... [23:06] I am now more resolved to 'change' the process [23:06] sorry, just thought you might want the input that it might be a bit complicated for someone new and shy [23:06] I do not want confusion or intimidation [23:06] no need for an apology... [23:06] CLOSED is for Apple not Ubuntu [23:07] and I need to take the issue head o [23:07] doctormo: Pendulum and pleia2 have confirmed that I am, indeed, not crazy [23:07] well, not about this anyway :) [23:07] it's a moot point now as I'm leaving NY in a few months. i probably should have mentioned it sooner [23:07] you *are* crazy about football [23:07] I might not get NFL ticket this year [23:08] my life is kinda changing... [23:08] cprofitt: I can only confirm that your not more crazy than me ;-) [23:08] lol [23:08] doctormo: you and I are a very similar cloth I think [23:08] when we finally meet we have to have a beer and just talk [23:09] yes [23:09] Guiness a favorite of yours? [23:09] Maybe in a neutral state, Vermont sounds good :-D [23:09] Vermont? [23:09] I was thinking more like Mass [23:09] lol [23:09] when I get there [23:10] Aight, it's a date [23:10] I might be up there this spring... or fall [23:10] Near Pittsfield [23:11] Are you familiar with that area? [23:19] cprofitt: Not yet [23:19] ah... [23:19] its very close the NY State line [23:20] cprofitt: I'll be honest, I don't drive, my wife can't drive, we are City dwellers and when we go to Vermont, it's by coach [23:20] ah.... [23:20] Oh wait I think I've seen Pittsfield on a map [23:20] well... we can work something out... [23:20] I know the bus does go there [23:20] so I could pick ya up or some such [23:20] cprofitt: I can get about half way accross the state before the commuter rail stops. [23:21] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Stockbridge,+MA&sll=39.896145,-76.610445&sspn=0.010799,0.016265&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Stockbridge,+Berkshire,+Massachusetts&ll=42.281373,-73.320694&spn=0.333257,0.520477&t=h&z=11 [23:21] lol... that is a long URL [23:22] Its near Tanglewood. [23:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanglewood [23:24] I love the new Google Biking directions, they're so useless. By car it's 130 miles from boston, on bike it's 181 miles. ha [23:24] lol [23:24] depending on when y'all are doing this, I may be just south of Springfield at that point so if you're willing to have a crasher, I could potentially pick doctormo up somewhere for the rest of getting there [23:25] sounds like a potential plan [23:25] it would either be this may or next veterans day [23:26] cprofitt: when in May? [23:26] Memorial Day [23:29] cprofitt: Interesting [23:30] Maybe we could have a quick LoCo NorthEast meet [23:30] doctormo: btw, would anyone have an objection if once I'm right on the MA border in CT I occasionally go to MA LoCo events? Last I checked there's no real active CT LoCo and I don't have the energy to create one [23:31] Only if you wear a sign stating you are not actually a resident of MA [23:31] :) [23:31] heh [23:32] I don't think any loco would have a problem with a fellow Ubuntu lover going to events [23:33] It would be cool with me... [23:34] then again them MA people have a mean nickname [23:34] maybe it is well deserved [23:35] http://imagebin.ca/view/KY6yqqA.html <- this is really funny [23:35] Pendulum: Your very welcome to attend any MA events [23:36] IdleOne: MA people? what's the nickname? [23:38] IdleOne: is that the one that refers to their driving style? [23:38] (not Ubuntu-specific) [23:39] doctormo: I didnt mean the Ubuntu MA people. I meant in general but it is a stupid joke anyway... [23:40] Pendulum: Boston people drive like they've never seen a DVLA, they use wits instead of skill and are constantly on edge. [23:45] doctormo: I know. Have you ever heard what non-MA people call MA drivers? (it's not actually something I can say in this channel) [23:47] Pendulum: Ah well, at least they have good clam chowder. [23:48] Maine has better... [23:48] :-) [23:50] Nah, I've had several, maybe it's my british taste, or maybe it's that the clams taste faintly of tea. [23:52] New England clam chowdah is yummy :)