[00:57] <persia> ian_brasil: Given that some folk run Ubuntu on 600MHz i386, I think running on 800MHz armel is unlikely to be an issue.
[06:57] <lifeless> we should start a pool on poulsbo
[06:57] <persia> What sort of pool?
[06:58] <lifeless> a gambling pool
[06:58] <GrueMaster> lifeless: What are the stakes
[06:58] <lifeless> on something like: when[if] driver support will be done so that X can update the drivers
[06:59] <GrueMaster> Ah.
[06:59] <GrueMaster> I give it a few months.
[06:59] <GrueMaster> Won't be in Lucid.
[06:59]  * persia tries to alter the basis of the game to make the pool unwinnable
[06:59] <lifeless> persia: heh
[06:59] <lifeless> GrueMaster: so there is some interesting research ineconomics
[06:59]  * GrueMaster gambles with insider information.
[06:59] <lifeless> on using trading schemes to make estimates like this
[07:01]  * GrueMaster has friends in places of knowledge.  
[07:01] <GrueMaster> Although the chances of support for the existing SCH may be limited.
[07:02] <persia> \o/
[07:04] <lifeless> GrueMaster: what do you mena
[07:04] <lifeless> if you can say
[07:05] <GrueMaster> Just referring to a friendly discussion I had at the local computer store with a former co-worker that knows things.
[07:06] <lifeless> right
[07:06] <lifeless> I mean 'existing SCH may be limited'
[07:06] <GrueMaster> yep
[07:06] <lifeless> do yo mean something like 'existing machines might get an open 2d driver but not 3d'
[07:06] <lifeless> or '..'
[07:06] <GrueMaster> Meaning that Intel is moving on.
[07:06] <GrueMaster> Next Gen stuff.
[07:07] <lifeless> I would love it if they did that
[07:07] <lifeless> and did a code drop of the pouslbo drivers
[07:07] <lifeless> :)
[07:07] <GrueMaster> The driver is no longer in the hands of Tungsten Graphics.  But back support is questionable when they re-release.
[07:08] <GrueMaster> When I worked on the system, the chipset wasn't that bad.  HD video without breaking a sweat.
[07:08] <GrueMaster> But the code sucked.
[07:09] <GrueMaster> It was essentially forked from the DRM & X support found in FC6.
[07:09] <GrueMaster> But that was last I worked on it - 2 years ago.
[07:10] <lifeless> so its now Intels IP and they have the choice of releasing?
[07:10] <GrueMaster> Not necessarily.  The IP is still owned by PowerVR.  Just what can and can't be released has finally gotten better defined.
[07:12] <GrueMaster> Kind of the same with the i915 driver series.  There is stuff the chips support that aren't in the driver, but no one in the open source community cares.  Mainly Digital restrictions, etc.