[00:33] <knome> lol
[00:39] <Pici> !xkcd
[00:39] <knome> night!
[00:39] <Pici> gn
[01:02] <kkathman> Pici - great cartoon strip :)
[01:53] <fujisan> elky hi long time no see
[01:57] <elky> Oh dear...
[07:47] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <Myrtti> moin
[11:54] <gord> hrm, !ops doesn't have me or MenZa in it for -offtopic
[11:55] <MenZa> it doesn't, no
[11:55] <MenZa> I have a hi-light for !ops though, so I'm ok
[11:55] <Myrtti> that's because it's the normal ubuntu one, I think
[11:55] <MenZa> shouldn't be
[11:56] <MenZa> !-ops-#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <MenZa> hum
[11:56] <MenZa> !-ops
[11:56] <Myrtti> damnit, I forgot what I was doing :-<
[11:56] <MenZa> !ops-#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <MenZa> I'm pretty sure it's different.
[11:58] <Gary> I've fixed the jimmy_ problem, seems someone needs to figure out what is not allowed to talked about on freenode (it was obvious hidden trolling)
[12:02] <bazhang> it is the same
[12:09] <Myrtti> my head hurts considerably less nowadays because I'm not on the most trollish channels anymore
[14:04] <Myrtti> why does Omerta make me shiver?
[14:06] <persia> Because "code of silence" implies there's something that needs hiding?
[14:46] <niko> you should take a look at jimmy_
[14:47] <niko> > jimmy_ is now known as linuxsucks
[14:48] <jpds> We are.
[14:49] <Myrtti> him again?
[14:49]  * Myrtti has her empgun ready
[15:15] <topyli> hm. is debugger on -ot the same troll?
[15:16] <topyli> or perhaps a different one? :)
[15:16] <topyli> realname is jimmy
[15:17] <gord> [debugger] (~jimmy@188.27.165.226): jimmy
[15:17] <gord> worst. repeat. offender. ever
[15:17] <topyli> ok
[15:17] <Myrtti> that's the same one
[15:18] <jpds> Just banforward him here
[15:18] <topyli> gah. just removed without forward
[15:19] <topyli> hey, Myrtti knows how to change that, she helped me before :)
[15:19] <Myrtti> append $#ubuntu-ops after a normal ban
[15:22] <topyli> *sigh*
[15:22]  * topyli reads
[15:30] <ikonia> topyli: I can't do +b in #-ot for some reason, can you ?
[15:30] <topyli> nope
[15:30] <ikonia> ahh, I think I see why
[15:30] <ikonia> hang on
[15:30] <topyli> worse,  ihave to go
[15:31] <ikonia> I'll sort it
[15:31] <ikonia> that jimmy guy
[15:31] <topyli> right
[15:31] <topyli> thanks
[16:56] <ikonia> for the record I've just removed alanbd/dehqan as it's now %100 clear he's trolling as he typed exactly the same question/mistakes in ##linux at the same time as #ubuntu
[16:59] <persia> I spent a bunch of time with him on an issue.  I strongly suspect him to have difficulties achieving his goals and difficulties with English, rather than being deliberately malicious.
[16:59] <persia> Or else he's just really, really, really good.
[16:59] <ikonia> persia: no,
[16:59] <ikonia> eg: in #ubuntu has asked for a copy command, someone gave him cp -vp - he complained it didn't work
[16:59] <ikonia> he then asked in ##linux
[16:59] <ikonia> someone gave him cp -vp
[17:00] <ikonia> he compained that -w didn't work
[17:00] <ikonia> he's got a history of doing this
[17:00] <ikonia> exactly the same as in #ubuntu
[17:00] <persia> Then he's just really good.
[17:00] <ikonia> he makes the problems up
[17:00] <ikonia> hence why he's changing his nick
[17:00] <ikonia> and now changing his ident
[17:00] <ikonia> he's know
[17:00] <ikonia> people have just been complaining about him in ##linux too
[17:00] <persia> He had convincing logs for me on the one I helped him with.  Did a halfway upgrade from jaunty to karmic, and then half-downgrade, and made most of his programs segfault.
[17:01] <ikonia> yes, I'm sure it's valid
[17:01] <persia> Note that I don't disagree with the removal, just that I thought he just wasa good at breaking systems, rather than trolling.
[17:01] <ikonia> however he does this because he makes problems up
[17:01] <persia> Ah.  I get it.  He creates special problems for the support?
[17:02] <ikonia> he tries to break things on purpose or make situations ups to drag people around on the problem
[17:02] <ikonia> and then talks nonsense that is research for a boko he's writing
[17:02] <ikonia> book even
[17:02] <persia> Right.  He's very good.
[17:02] <Pici> Thats the same person as albad?
[17:02] <Pici> or whatever?
[17:02] <ikonia> yes
[17:02] <persia> I admire his tenacity and skill.  I only wish it was targeted differently.
[17:03] <ikonia> he's changed his nick
[17:03] <ikonia> then when we identified him under his new nick with his ident and ip he changed his ident
[17:03] <ikonia> so he knows what he's doing
[17:03] <Pici> Also, that cp command could result in an error depending on what was inside the file that was being cat'ed
[17:03] <ikonia> yes
[17:03] <persia> Pici: Which supports the claim that special issues are constructed.
[17:04] <Pici> persia: Its possible.
[17:06] <persia> Pici: True.  Undecideable, really.  I've been convinced mostly because of a memory of certain solutions not being accepted when they seemed easier to accomplish.
[17:06] <persia> (for poorly defined reasons)
[17:06] <ikonia> ahhh the spam begins
[17:06] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it
[17:06] <ikonia> there we go
[17:06] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:06] <ikonia> and another
[17:06] <ikonia> ypup
[17:06] <ikonia> bang on time
[17:09] <ikonia> lorenzo_: are you at your keyboard ?
[17:10] <ikonia> lorenzo_: perché scriv sempre quel messaggio a macchina unite il IRC
[17:11] <lorenzo_> scusa per accedere al canale
[17:11] <Pici> I think we might need to get someone from #ubuntu-it to help us.
[17:11] <ikonia> already pinged ljl
[17:12] <ikonia> lorenzo_:
[17:12] <ikonia> lorenzo_:
[17:12] <ikonia> oops
[17:13] <ikonia> lorenzo_: dovete scriv a /join #ubuntu-it macchina non appena #ubuntu-it
[19:50] <seanbrystone2> did you guys see Xy's quit message just now?
[21:43] <ikonia> hello fax
[21:49] <ikonia> fax: do you need anything in this channel ?
[21:49] <fax> no
[21:49] <fax> I meant to join the other ubuntu channel
[21:49] <ikonia> oh, ok then
[23:01] <Pici> !no it is <reply> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[23:01] <Pici> yay
[23:40] <ikonia> gone