[00:00] <faron> Hey ! When I open that file to paste to....there's nothing in it &
[00:00] <faron> it says something like.............
[00:00] <faron> can't open file to write
[00:01] <rww> faron: you're doing "gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[00:02] <faron> sorry I typed a couple of things wrong
[00:02] <faron> yeah that was 1 of the things I did wrong
[00:02] <faron> I didn't get the gk par & instaed of etc I typed ect
[00:03] <faron> oops
[00:03] <faron> got it now though
[00:12] <Balsaq> Good evening Xubuntu Team. It is a pleasure to do business with you.
[00:13] <knome> hey Balsaq, and good 2am to you as well.
[00:13] <Balsaq> wow you must be awful tired!
[00:13] <knome> not really :)
[00:13] <Balsaq> just got off the mountain...long day.
[00:14] <knome> right :)
[00:14] <Daniel__> hello
[00:14] <knome> !hi | Daniel__
[00:15] <Daniel__> Thanks
[00:15] <Daniel__> will xubuntu work on a pentium III (666 MHz) and 128 MB RAM?
[00:15] <Balsaq> yes but right on the border...
[00:16] <Balsaq> i run it on 512 and it is runs like crazy...FAST.
[00:17] <Daniel__> i need a distro for this machine
[00:17] <Balsaq> i see system idle up at 256 when i am working sometimes
[00:18] <Balsaq> puppy wil run well on 128
[00:18] <Daniel__> and arch?
[00:18] <Balsaq> oh yeah
[00:18] <Daniel__> or flux?
[00:18] <Balsaq> never looked at that one
[00:18] <Daniel__> what is better?
[00:18] <Daniel__> fluxbuntu
[00:18] <Balsaq> got 2 puppy's here on 400 and a 450 mgz
[00:18] <Daniel__> or archlinux?
[00:19] <Balsaq> the pro's really luv arch
[00:20] <Daniel__> ok, i'm going to try both
[00:20] <Balsaq> the thing is...xubuntu is the best! i'd add a stick of pc100 256 mb (they are dirt cheap) and run xubuntu.
[00:21] <Balsaq> seen um for 7 dollars....imagine that
[00:22] <Daniel__> yes, but in my country, they are difficult to find
[00:23] <Balsaq> no ebay?
[00:23] <Daniel__> yes
[00:23] <Balsaq> thats where i get all my ram
[00:23] <Balsaq> old ram is dirt cheap onb ebay...
[00:23] <Daniel__> i will try
[00:24] <Daniel__> thanks everyone
[00:24] <Balsaq> thank you for choosing Xubuntu...
[08:04] <Balsaq> Good morning Xubuntu Channel.
[08:05] <psycho_oreos> evening Balsaq
[08:06] <Balsaq> hellp psycho_oreas
[08:07] <psycho_oreos> o.O
[08:07] <psycho_oreos> lol
[08:07] <Balsaq> im still confused how that guys problem just "went away" the other night? xubuntu must of went out on the internet and grabbed a driver ?
[08:07] <Balsaq> the guy the 9.10 issue
[08:08] <psycho_oreos> humm dunno which one heh
[08:08] <Balsaq> the one you suspected as a video issue
[08:08] <psycho_oreos> ahh he long solved that, don't know if he came back
[08:08] <psycho_oreos> apparently he said that eventually it loaded up GUI
[08:09] <Balsaq> i saw it when it was solved but could not determine how it got fixed
[08:09] <Balsaq> he said it just suddenly worked
[08:09] <psycho_oreos> I couldn't really understand how or why it would take time and it automagically worked
[08:09] <psycho_oreos> yeah
[08:10] <_Techie_> anybody here got any experience with LTSP or PXE bootign liveCD's
[08:10] <psycho_oreos> he wasn't clear about illegal modes, illegal commands, errors
[08:12] <_Techie_> failing that does anybody have a PXE boot server i could steal PCElinux from
[08:13] <_Techie_> PXElinux*
[08:14] <psycho_oreos> nope
[08:15] <psycho_oreos> are you looking for working examples I suppose?
[08:15] <_Techie_> ive seen working examples
[08:15] <psycho_oreos> no no like the config files of working examples
[08:16] <_Techie_> no, i got tutorials
[08:16] <psycho_oreos> ahh :/
[08:16] <_Techie_> i dont want to have to make PXElinux though
[08:17] <_Techie_> and if theres someone who has knowledge, i have someone to ask a few questions when it all turns to poop
[08:26] <_Techie_> http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/OhNose.png
[08:42] <Balsaq> yo _Techie_
[08:42] <_Techie_> yo bal
[12:04] <_Techie_> [amsg] goodnight everyone
[12:56] <v_2e> Hello everyone! I'm still having some trouble trying to boot from Xubuntu 9.10 LiveCD or to install a system from it. After I choose some action from the CD's first menu, I can only see a blank screen with cursor blinking in the upper left corner. I was advised to use "Ctrl+Alt+F2" to switch between the terminals. I have tried to do that, but I still can only see a blank screen with a blinking cursor on every terminal. Also a message "stdin: I/O error" appear
[12:56] <v_2e> s in the first terminal after few minutes.
[12:56] <v_2e> What problem could cause such behaviour?
[12:56] <v_2e> Thanks.
[12:56] <Myrtti> have you tried running memtest on the system?
[12:56] <Myrtti> do you already have other operating systems on it and do they have any problems?
[12:57] <Myrtti> and finally, what video card do you have?
[12:57] <v_2e> Yes, I have tried running Memtest. It looked like everything was ok.
[12:58] <v_2e> I don't have any operating system on that PC.
[12:58] <Myrtti> how long did you run memtest?
[13:00] <v_2e> Not too long. About few minutes. I know that running all the tests may take much more time, but I didn't pay much attention to memory testing, because I have successfully booted this machine using Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD.
[13:01] <v_2e> I cannot even tell for sure what a videocard I use there. This isn't my PC, so it wasn't me who bought it. All I can see is that it is an old 16MB AGP card from ASUS.
[13:01] <v_2e> By the way, this machine has only 196 MB of RAM.
[13:06] <Myrtti> I'd run memtest for overnight or longer. I/O error points to, in my books, to hardware failure
[13:10] <v_2e> Myrtti: Maybe, you are right, but why did Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD booted smoothly in such case?
[13:10] <ablomen> thats hd
[13:11] <ablomen> or it can also be the hd
[13:11] <v_2e> Oh, by the way. I have met a similar problem earlier. And both of the problematic machines have VIA KT133 chipset.
[13:11] <ablomen> i'v had those errors twice, and soon after that the errors the hd died..
[13:11] <ablomen> third time i changed the hd before hand and the errors stopped
[13:12] <ablomen> also explains why the livecd worked without a problem
[13:12] <v_2e> ablomen: I'm not sure about HDD, because I tried tu turn it off and boot from LiveCD. The same results.
[13:12] <ablomen> oh wait
[13:12] <ablomen> sorry i misread
[13:12] <v_2e> ablomen: Xubuntu LiveCD doesn't boot without HDD either.
[13:12] <v_2e> ablomen: I mean Xubuntu 9.10
[13:13] <ablomen> it doesnt?
[13:14] <v_2e> ablomen: It doesn't. And moreover, if I choose to "check CD for errors" from the LiveCD's menu, I get the very same situation.
[13:14] <ablomen> hmm
[13:14] <v_2e> ablomen: Yeah, I think so too. :)
[13:15] <ablomen> that sounds more like the burning of the cd went wrong
[13:15] <ablomen> or the iso was bad
[13:17] <v_2e> ablomen: maybe it really souns like that, but it isn't. I have successfully installed a system from this LiveCD on a virtual machine.
[13:18] <ablomen> hmm ok, i don't know then, maybe someone else has another idea, and yeah i would try what Myrtti said, though make sure you wont need the pc for about 8 hours ;)
[13:30] <v_2e> ablomen: ok, thanks anyway. Maybe, I'll try to Memtest for several hours. But the only thing disturbs me all the time - that both of the machines which refused to boot from this CD, had VIA KT133 chipset. Isn't this chipset causing such problems?
[13:31] <ablomen> maybe, i wouldnt know
[13:39] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Hello, charlie-tca. I have tried "Ctrl+Alt+F2" to switch between the terminals, like you said, but I can see the same blank screen with blinking cursor on every one of them. And an error message "stdin: I/O error" appears every several minutes on the first terminal. What could it be?
[13:39] <charlie-tca> video card incompatibility
[13:40] <charlie-tca> or a bug in the image
[13:40] <v_2e> Hmm... You are the second person saying about video card incompatibility today. :) Maybe, I should check this.
[13:41] <v_2e> But I also tried Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD. It works fine.
[13:41] <v_2e> charlie-tca: I don't think there is a bug in the image, since I have successfully installed a system from it on a virtual machine.
[13:43] <charlie-tca> Not in the image, if it works in a virtual machine. It is video card related
[13:48] <v_2e> charlie-tca: So, if I understand you right, you are suggesting me to change a videocard and see what happens? I must say, that I experienced the same problem on another PC with another videocard. Or does it change nothing?
[13:48] <charlie-tca> No, just file a bug against the video card driver
[13:48] <charlie-tca> Are they the same ? nvidia, ati, intel?
[13:51] <v_2e> charlie-tca: one of them is NVidia. Another - I don't even know.
[13:51] <charlie-tca> You can file against xorg, from the machine in whatever does work, using ubuntu-bug xorg
[13:51] <charlie-tca> and explain that it is a bug in lucid images
[13:51] <charlie-tca> lspci -vvnn wil give the video card data
[13:52] <charlie-tca> (and a lot of other hardware information you don't even want)
[13:52] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Is this a Xorg problem?
[13:52] <charlie-tca> Think so. xorg controls the video drivers
[13:52] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Yes, I know about lspci and lshw programs.
[13:53] <v_2e> charlie-tca: But I think that there is a lot of programs starting before Xorg. And I cannot see even any text boot messages.
[13:53] <charlie-tca> Have you removed quiet splash from the boot?
[13:55] <v_2e> charlie-tca: no, I haven't, but the system seems not booting at all. I press "Ctrl+Alt+F2" when a graphical mouse image appears in the centre of the screen, but I can see nothing. No terminals.
[13:55] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Just a blank screens with blinking cursor on every place where a terminal with a command line prompt should be.
[13:56] <charlie-tca> Edit the boot line in grub before starting it, and remove quiet and splash. It will then give you the text screens and you might be able to see what is wrong.
[13:56] <charlie-tca> It could be xsplash or plymouth again
[13:56] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Is is also a GRUB on LiveCD?
[13:57] <charlie-tca> no, but if you hit F6, you can still remove the quiet splash
[13:57] <charlie-tca> (on older images, the latest image doesn't let you
[13:58] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Oh, and how are those features called in "F6" menu?
[13:58] <charlie-tca> ESCAPE
[13:59] <charlie-tca> then you can edit the line on screen by hitting end
[14:00] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I know. It is not really the easy way to do that.
[14:02] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Once more, please, because I'm not sure I got it right. I should press "Esc" when in the LiveCD's boot menu?
[14:07] <charlie-tca> okay. Live cd menu... hit F6, hit ESC, then hit END. Now just remove the quiet splash at the end of the lien
[14:07] <charlie-tca> s/lien/line
[14:08] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Hm... not very obvious way... :) But of course I'll try to do that. Thanks for advice!
[14:08]  * charlie-tca thinks it could be harder to do, if they work at it
[14:09] <charlie-tca> Heh, if you download a new lucid image, you can't even use F6 no more
[14:09] <charlie-tca> It took me 8 minutes to get to the install page
[14:09] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Hmm... And now I'm not sure the image I have lets to use it... I didn't pay much attention to that and now I'm not sure...
[14:10] <charlie-tca> And, I don't think you would ever get there because of the bug
[14:10] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Sounds nice. :)
[14:10] <charlie-tca> lol
[14:11] <v_2e> charlie-tca: Ok. Anyway, I'll try to do what you said and let's see what happens. Thanks again. I'm offline. Bye.
[14:12] <charlie-tca> good luck again
[14:12] <v_2e> charlie-tca: thanks. :)
[15:44] <subspider> hello everyone
[15:44] <subspider> hello charlie-tca
[16:26] <charlie-tca> hello, subspider
[17:45] <mikubuntu> that has to be you
[17:45] <mikubuntu> hahaha
[17:46] <CZPhoenix> that has to be me?
[17:46] <CZPhoenix> How did you figure it out?
[17:47] <mikubuntu> hey guys, my friend here, czphoenix, is trying to download ubuntu, but it seems to be downloading as a winzip file.  in three years i've never heard of that happening, can someone comment please?  i trying to bring her from the dark side.
[17:48] <mikubuntu> cz gave it away
[17:48] <CZPhoenix> It is a very strange problem, indeed. I have tried on 2 different computers and had the same problem on each.
[17:49] <CZPhoenix> Right now, I am on the Evil Windoze 7 that I want to bring Back To The Light, but...
[17:49] <pleia2> CZPhoenix: is windows somehow associating .iso files as zip archives?
[17:49] <CZPhoenix> amazing. Most people see the CZ and think I am from the Czech republic.. .and currently living in Phoenix, Arizona, neither of which are true.
[17:50] <CZPhoenix> I think so, Pleia. I think it's decided to default downloads to winzip, which is evil.
[17:50] <pleia2> yeah, I think you need to look up file associations in windows somewhere (I have no clue where, but it should exist)
[17:51] <CZPhoenix> I will find it. I am determined.
[17:51] <pleia2> :)
[17:52] <CZPhoenix> I just hit the Frustration Limit and took a lunch break. Unfortunately, the Brain Enhancing Fluid is cold. I need to create a new pot.
[17:52] <mikubuntu> anybody else know why an ubuntu download is showing up as a winzip file instead of an .iso ??  i have never seen the problem before, and couldn't find anything googling
[17:53] <CZPhoenix> I couldn't find anything googling, either, but I did find masses of documentation on how to test an ISO for integrity.
[17:53] <mikubuntu> my conspiracy minded theory is that ms is blockg the download intentionally, but thats silly
[17:54] <charlie-tca> CZPhoenix: have you tried just changing the extension back to .iso?
[17:54] <mikubuntu> charlie-tca, just rename the file?
[17:54] <CZPhoenix> Yes, I did, Charlie. The evil being downloaded it as a winzip despite what I demanded,
[17:54] <charlie-tca> or is it not allowing the download at all?
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Let it download, then change the extension
[17:54] <CZPhoenix> It downloads, but it seems to default to a zip file.
[17:55] <CZPhoenix>  Let me go try that. I must return to the Office and the other computer.
[17:55] <charlie-tca> then burn it to cd
[17:55] <mikubuntu> charlie, are you saying to simply rename the file?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:55] <charlie-tca> If it downloads it, and gives it a .zip extension, simply change the extension to .iso
[17:55] <mikubuntu> got it carol?  just rename it to ubuntu.iso and try burning
[17:56] <mikubuntu> why din't i think of that
[17:56] <charlie-tca> windows is seeing a compressed file
[17:56] <CZPhoenix> trying that now
[17:56] <mikubuntu> k
[17:57] <charlie-tca> might work, might not work
[17:58] <CZPhoenix> it's worth a try. CDs are cheap. I don't mind burning a few failures. I'll string them on string in the garden to frighten off rabbits and deer.
[17:59] <pleia2> that's the spirit! :)
[17:59] <CZPhoenix> Estimated write time 11 minutes. Sound about corrrect?
[17:59] <pleia2> depends on the drive, but that would be reasonable
[17:59] <CZPhoenix> It just got warm enough here so this past weekend, I put in a raised garden bed. Thus, the CDs will have a good home.
[17:59] <mikubuntu> could be, if theres a setting you should usually set to lower speed
[18:00] <mikubuntu> but defaut should be ok
[18:00] <CZPhoenix> I lit some Nag Champa incense to keep the evil away from the burn.
[18:01] <mikubuntu> i'm gnna run to gas station for smokes (open source of course) call me on the phone if you get done b4 i get back
[18:01] <CZPhoenix> Copy, boss.
[18:04] <CZPhoenix> when the burn is done, I am going to close out of chat on this computer (which is the Linux target) and open chat on the other computer.
[18:09] <mickaela> hi !
[18:09] <mickaela> hiall #xubuntu
[18:09] <mickaela> I've installed Windows 7 like I used to have, and I want to Dual Boot XUbuntu with it. I've got 25 gigs of free space set aside for it. I have a few different partitions.
[18:09] <mickaela> I load up he live disc for Xbuntu, it burned right. I go to install and it claims my hard disc is empty.
[18:10] <mickaela> please help me !! thanks !
[18:11] <charlie-tca> what version of Xubuntu, mickaela
[18:12] <mickaela> 9.10
[18:14] <mickaela> charlie-tca
[18:14] <charlie-tca> Sorry, distracted by three installs running
[18:15] <charlie-tca> Only one hard drive?
[18:16] <CZPhoenix> renaming the zip file to an iso did not work. Failure to boot.
[18:18] <CZPhoenix> I think my system is cursed.
[18:18] <charlie-tca> well, Then you have to change the file associations, and I can't help with it
[18:19] <CZPhoenix> Thank you for your help, though. I will eventually figure this demon out. (and it's pouring down rain right now, not that that matters)
[18:19] <CZPhoenix> well, I did achieve something. now the laptop won't boot at all. LOL
[19:32] <mtrg> anyone knows if xubuntu makes it theme public for other distros?
[19:32] <mtrg> I think it's called Albatros
[19:32] <charlie-tca> It is called Albatros, and you can find out in #shimmer, which is the developers of the theme
[19:37] <mtrg> charlie-tca: so it's not xubuntu specific?
[19:55] <mtrg> Thanks charlie-tca -- great
[20:35] <fuge> hello
[20:35] <fuge> the i have a pinnacle pctv pro tv card but it can not find any station
[20:36] <fuge> as i remember at the previous xubuntu it was working
[20:44] <fuge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/393547/
[20:45] <charlie-tca> You might have more luck in #mythbuntu
[20:46] <fuge> thanks
[20:46] <fuge> one another question
[20:47] <fuge> is it possible to disable the "bubbles" for examle connecting to wired network, buddy login in pidgin...
[20:48] <charlie-tca> bubbles?
[20:48] <charlie-tca> notifications?
[20:49] <fuge> yes
[20:50] <charlie-tca> I think the programs are supposed to have an option in preferences for it. There is no easy way to disable them all except remove the app for them.
[20:52] <fuge> xfce4-notifyd - simple, visually-appealing notification daemon for Xfce ?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Is it already installed?
[20:53] <charlie-tca> I show notify-osd installed here
[20:53] <fuge> no it is not installed
[20:53] <fuge> i made only an apt-cache search
[20:54] <fuge> ii  notify-osd                            0.9.24-0ubuntu1                            daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications
[20:54] <fuge> great thanks
[20:58] <FrozenFire[work]> It seems that, over the past day or so, one of my keyboard shortcuts has stopped working, entirely. I had XF86AudioPlay bound to xfterm4.
[20:59] <FrozenFire[work]> I've had that bound for months now, and it's always worked. Now it doesn't do anything, whatsoever. I checked to see that it was still in the Application Shortcut list, and it is.
[20:59] <FrozenFire[work]> Any ideas as to why it would suddenly disappear?
[20:59] <FrozenFire[work]> Or, rather, stop work.
[20:59] <FrozenFire[work]> working**
[22:13] <slow-motion> n8