| ccheney | ugh it pulls in more classes i have to subclass override due to struct changes :-\ | 00:49 |
|---|---|---|
| robert_ancell | mclasen, hey, thanks for the simple-scan review | 04:13 |
| mclasen | np | 04:13 |
| mclasen | this was with 0.9.5, btw | 04:14 |
| ccheney | finally down to 4 symbols, grr | 05:27 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, can you build and release xdg-utils from bzr? | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: sure in a bit. | 05:32 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, thanks | 05:33 |
| robert_ancell | really must get main permissions... | 05:33 |
| ccheney | found another evil symbol :-\ | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: what branch do I use for xdg-utils? Ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu? | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: nvm I have an existing branch for it here. | 05:37 |
| robert_ancell | lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xdg-utils/ubuntu | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: yeah no problem as I said above. | 05:39 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: I'd support you if you were to apply for core-dev. | 05:56 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, just so I stop bugging you :) | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | heh no really, I would. | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | Anyway uploaded. | 05:56 |
| robert_ancell | see you all next week | 06:00 |
| RAOF | :) | 06:01 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, let try to meet up sometime next week! | 06:01 |
| RAOF | Yes! | 06:02 |
| * ccheney off to bed, bbl | 06:09 | |
| RAOF | Who wants to bet that xulrunner doesn't have a stable javascript JIT engine on armel? | 06:10 |
| lifeless | s/ on armel// | 06:11 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:14 |
| RAOF | Good morning didrocks | 07:15 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I guess it's only visible when you disable acceleration in your graphic card | 07:15 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF, how are you? | 07:15 |
| RAOF | Good. It's pretty much the weekend now :) | 07:16 |
| didrocks | heh ;) | 07:16 |
| RAOF | So I get to switch from f-spot to banshee ;) | 07:16 |
| didrocks | what do you add to banshee? | 07:17 |
| pitti | Bonjour mesdames et monsieurs | 07:19 |
| RAOF | My gapless branch has just landed, and it seems that fiddling with the core of Banshee has introduced a couple of bugs :) | 07:19 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti, how was the magic show? | 07:20 |
| pitti | didrocks: bonjour! it was brilliant, really | 07:25 |
| didrocks | sweet :) glade you enjoyed it! | 07:25 |
| pitti | leaves a lot of question marks in your face :) | 07:25 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| didrocks | heh, I can imagine :-) | 07:31 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I've commented on the LP issue I get, they open a firefox task, can you have a look and talk to upstream (as it's also on upstream tarball), please? | 07:42 |
| pitti | I have to leave for ~ 1 hour, doctor appointment | 08:13 |
| didrocks | see you pitti | 08:14 |
| seb128 | hello there | 08:26 |
| RAOF | seb128: Good morning.\ | 08:37 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | hey RAOF didrocks | 08:39 |
| seb128 | RAOF, how was your week? how is nouveau doing? | 08:40 |
| RAOF | Nouveau's going nicely. | 08:40 |
| seb128 | nice ;-) | 08:40 |
| RAOF | My call for testing has resulted in a flood of... no new bugs. | 08:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how are you? | 08:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: very well, thanks, sun has gone away for the week-end apparently, but apart from that good ;) You? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, same here | 08:41 |
| seb128 | it's grey today | 08:41 |
| seb128 | not complaining since it's a work day ;-) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, but apparently we will enjoy "work day weather" during the week-end :) | 08:42 |
| RAOF | I quite like it when its grey here. It means its (probably) not going to be annoyingly hot :) | 08:42 |
| seb128 | RAOF, here is means it's annoyingly freezing :p | 08:42 |
| seb128 | and yeah, it's not only lucid which is freezing | 08:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: I saw that you can even have some snow today near your area | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, indeed! | 08:43 |
| RAOF | You crazy people in the wrong season. Everyone knows that March is autumn. | 08:43 |
| didrocks | RAOF: heh :-) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | don't worry it freezes at night in autumn too there sometime ;-) | 08:44 |
| RAOF | Speaking of crazy people... seb128, up for a little light f-spot sponsoring on bug #484887? | 08:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 484887 in f-spot "Viewer should load target directory when loading single image" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/484887 | 08:44 |
| RAOF | I'm looking forward to Hobart winters. They're properly cold. Frost and all! | 08:45 |
| RAOF | Properly cold, without being OMG I'M SNOWED IN cold :) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | RAOF, sponsoring, sure! | 08:48 |
| RAOF | Feel free to have a play around and mention any other obvious behaviours it should have that I just haven't thought of :) | 08:49 |
| seb128 | RAOF, will do | 08:58 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:24 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 09:24 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, yeah, good thanks | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 09:24 |
| seb128 | good thanks | 09:25 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson ;) | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you today? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'm fine, despite my FF + LP issue that drives me crazy :) | 09:27 |
| didrocks | you? | 09:27 |
| pitti | re | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - yeah, i'm good thanks. despite your FF + LP issue that drives me crazy too ;) | 09:28 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 09:28 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: heh ;-) | 09:28 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: as it's in the tarball, I think showing this to upstream is maybe the good choice. I've added new hints today | 09:28 |
| didrocks | it's obviously a layout functionnality that LP is using that get on FF's nerves :) | 09:29 |
| pitti | seb128, chrisccoulson: good morning, how are you? | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti. good thanks how are you? | 09:29 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks; lots of stuff to do today.. | 09:30 |
| pitti | OMGbeta | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey pitti, I'm very good thanks | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, how are you? how was the show yesterday? | 09:30 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've got quite a lot of stuff to do as well | 09:30 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - did you say you were using the NV driver? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you get the firefox lp issue now? | 09:30 |
| pitti | seb128: the show was awesome -- totally flabbergasting | 09:30 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - no, i don't get it at all | 09:30 |
| pitti | We left it with lots of "Huh?" question marks in our faces :) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:31 |
| pitti | first the guys came to the tables and showed little tricks there | 09:31 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I tried with nv and nouveau. I think that not having accelerated driver is what make the issue noticeable | 09:31 |
| pitti | and then they had a stage show | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, sounds fun ;-) | 09:33 |
| didrocks | and today pitti is scratching his head to try to understand what happened :-) | 09:33 |
| pitti | I think I understood just one trick | 09:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, pitti: does any of you plan any gpm upload? | 09:40 |
| pitti | not today | 09:40 |
| seb128 | ok, I will sponsor bug #529911 then | 09:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 529911 in gnome-power-manager "battery icon is not shown" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529911 | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i was going to modify the apport hook in the same way as gnome-screensaver | 09:41 |
| seb128 | or let one of you do that | 09:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, can you please get that one liner in too? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's no problem | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | we're not frozen yet are we? | 09:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: we just got frozen | 09:41 |
| pitti | but that sounds like an appropriate fix | 09:42 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: assigning that one to you then | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - what about the changes to the apport hook? | 09:42 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: sounds fine | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, will work on that then | 09:42 |
| pitti | basically, anything which potentially destabilizes Ubuntu -> no no no | 09:42 |
| pitti | anything which fixes bugs with low regression potential, or helps us debugging beta-1 -> bring it on | 09:43 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i just noticed a merge request in gpm (bug 522972) | 10:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522972 in gnome-power-manager "Apport hook should attach hardware info" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522972 | 10:06 |
| chrisccoulson | do you think thats useful for me to merge too? | 10:06 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: apport hook improvements are generally fine, I think | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, i'll add that too then | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | has anybody else recreated bug 533652 out of interest? | 10:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533652 in gnome-power-manager "critically low battery dialog "cancel" button is meaningless" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533652 | 10:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i generally don't let my battery become critically low | 10:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no, but isn't that just notify with action fallback for you? | 10:15 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I can let my mini empty and tell you after lunch | 10:15 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, but i reverted the upstream change which caused this | 10:15 |
| chrisccoulson | so i'm a bit confused :-/ | 10:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, mini is emptying, I will tell you | 10:16 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 10:16 |
| chrisccoulson | the last few builds i've done on my laptop have been painfully slow | 10:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is that because you were building openjdk or firefox there? | 10:26 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:26 |
| chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 10:26 |
| chrisccoulson | not this time | 10:26 |
| seb128 | hum, gpm notify bubbles are buggy | 10:26 |
| chrisccoulson | the last few builds i've done seem to be taking a very long time unpacking the build-depends | 10:26 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, so i need to fix that too | 10:26 |
| seb128 | the battery info key gives a "(null) not present" | 10:27 |
| seb128 | line after the bubble title | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | battery info key? i'm not sure i have one of them | 10:27 |
| seb128 | it has a small battery display | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i've got one, but it does nothing ;) | 10:27 |
| seb128 | it's fn-f3 there | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, same here. but mine doesn't do anything | 10:28 |
| seb128 | I'm still trying to get the low battery test | 10:28 |
| seb128 | I played with the gconf threshold | 10:28 |
| didrocks | I got the same issue than seb128, but my battery is dead, I was thinking it was the source of the issue :) | 10:28 |
| seb128 | let's see if that works | 10:28 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, Fn+F3 doesn't even flow up to X on my laptop | 10:28 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - nevermind, i found the issue with the critical notification | 10:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, good, I was still trying to play with the thresholds without luck | 10:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you want a bug about the "(null) not present" one? | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yes please | 10:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, will open one | 10:48 |
| seb128 | bah | 10:51 |
| seb128 | gpm --verbose says the threshold keys are unknown | 10:51 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if it still uses that | 10:51 |
| seb128 | or if the time for those actions are upower things now | 10:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i can have a look and find out | 10:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, feel free to ignore me, you are probably busy enough on firefox | 10:53 |
| seb128 | or other things | 10:53 |
| seb128 | we can figure those gpm issue after beta1 | 10:53 |
| chrisccoulson | fantastic, my disk has decided to eat itself again | 10:59 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: urgh? | 10:59 |
| pitti | how? | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i get ata errors constantly on this laptop | 11:00 |
| chrisccoulson | and occasionally it corrupts the disk ;) | 11:00 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what laptop did you take? | 11:00 |
| seb128 | just making sure I don't take the same | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 11:00 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - its a dell e5500 ;) | 11:00 |
| seb128 | you seems to keep running into issues | 11:01 |
| seb128 | or things not working | 11:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i get lots of this on my laptop: | 11:02 |
| chrisccoulson | http://paste.ubuntu.com/393941/ | 11:02 |
| chrisccoulson | and then eventually, it just does this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393943/ | 11:03 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 11:03 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, bbiab, need to go and do another manual fsck | 11:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, you took the gtk-perl bug over from slangasek? | 11:04 |
| pitti | well, it's a desktopish package? | 11:04 |
| pitti | and it was originally assigned to us | 11:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, he just seemed to be on it | 11:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, I can upload the fix now if you want | 11:04 |
| pitti | well, if he is, then I won't object :) | 11:04 |
| pitti | but I guess he has his hands full with other stuff now | 11:04 |
| seb128 | I will check with him | 11:04 |
| pitti | seb128: please go ahead if you have time | 11:04 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll have a closer look at the retracer crash later on | 11:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, it crashed again? thanks! | 11:11 |
| pitti | "need one more value to unpack" -> looks like a broken bug description | 11:12 |
| chrisccoulson | that's better! | 11:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i can write to my disk again now | 11:12 |
| pitti | seb128: fixed that bug, restarting | 11:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, that was quick ;-) | 11:15 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - do you remember me saying that my Fn+F8 key produced the same scancode as the "p" key on my laptop? | 11:15 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yes, I do | 11:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not a problem with my laptop :) | 11:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i just booted the karmic kernel, and it works fine | 11:15 |
| pitti | ah | 11:15 |
| * chrisccoulson breathes sigh of relief | 11:16 | |
| pitti | so, some weird quirk in the kernel? | 11:16 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, must be. but i'm not sure how to investigate that | 11:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to run the karmic kernel for a few days and see if i still get these ata errors | 11:17 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, does the battery key work too now? | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - no, that one still doesn't do anything | 11:17 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:17 |
| pitti | dear world. Stop sending me mail for a few hours, or at least slow down that I actually have a chance to catch up. Love, Pitti | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | well, i'm not getting any ata errors yet with the karmic kernel | 11:29 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i see you have a nm-applet bug assigned to you in the beta 1 targetted bugs | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | want me to have a look at that? | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | (bug 456468 FYI) | 11:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 456468 in network-manager-applet "upgrade triggers nm-applet "resource not found" ... missing icon "nm-applet-device"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/456468 | 11:52 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: isnt there even a patch attached? | 11:55 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: that bug is understood .... we need to create a legacy link for the nm-applet-device icon | 11:55 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - oh, ok. i'll leave it with you for now then if you already understand it | 11:56 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| davmor2 | pitti: is there a symptom for graphics in ubuntu-bug? | 12:21 |
| pitti | davmor2: yes, just select the "display" symptom | 12:23 |
| davmor2 | pitti: thanks :) | 12:26 |
| cassidy | seb128, hi. Ubuntu doesn't set the $XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR var, is that expected? | 12:31 |
| seb128 | cassidy, hey, what ubuntu version do you use? | 12:32 |
| cassidy | karmic | 12:32 |
| seb128 | cassidy, it was set to be the desktop on karmic iirc | 12:33 |
| cassidy | I'm a simple user, I don't use dev distro ;) | 12:33 |
| cassidy | is it set on your box? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | cassidy, let me check | 12:34 |
| seb128 | cassidy, in .config/user-dirs.dirs? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:34 |
| cassidy | to ~/Download? | 12:34 |
| cassidy | XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Bureau" | 12:34 |
| cassidy | ah I see | 12:34 |
| seb128 | cassidy, yes | 12:35 |
| cassidy | but it's not exported | 12:35 |
| seb128 | cassidy, those are not meant to be export afaik | 12:35 |
| seb128 | cassidy, the glib api uses the config file | 12:35 |
| seb128 | cassidy, not the environment | 12:35 |
| cassidy | I see | 12:35 |
| cassidy | let's try using g_get_user_special_dir then | 12:36 |
| seb128 | cassidy, nice to see you still around btw :p | 12:37 |
| seb128 | cassidy, you have not been responding to any of my pings for some weeks ;-) | 12:38 |
| cassidy | seb128, oh sorry. I moved back to Belgium so have been pretty busy :) | 12:38 |
| cassidy | don't hesitate to ping me harder :) | 12:38 |
| seb128 | cassidy, np ;-) I did sort the questions I had I think | 12:39 |
| seb128 | hum | 13:03 |
| seb128 | how is submittodebian sending bugs? | 13:03 |
| Laney | using reportbug | 13:03 |
| seb128 | how is reportbug sending bugs? | 13:03 |
| seb128 | is that relying on having a working mta? | 13:03 |
| Laney | yes | 13:03 |
| Keybuk | seb128: did you see that I uploaded new plymouth packages to my PPA? Could you test them - you seemed particularly bitten by bugs | 13:03 |
| Laney | I just use ssmtp these days | 13:04 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, no I didn't see that, doing that now, the mini has the issue at every single boot | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | seb128: there's a new gdm and mountall with it - install those too | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | pitti: ^ | 13:04 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, is there anything I don't want in your ppa? | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | seb128: should be just those three packages in there | 13:05 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, ie should I upgrade with it or just pick those? | 13:05 |
| seb128 | ok good | 13:05 |
| Keybuk | upgrade should be fine | 13:05 |
| pitti | Keybuk: great, thanks! I'll test them on both my machines | 13:06 |
| selsy | my ubuntu destop windows don't appear. any window opens in full screen without the option to minimize or restore. can any one help me out? | 13:06 |
| seb128 | selsy, try #ubuntu | 13:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, thanks | 13:08 |
| selsy | seb128, thanks | 13:08 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, ok, that fixes the "show a text vt and cursor" and "xorg crashes on first enter use" | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, but that breaks reboot | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Keybuk, it displays plymouth splash and then a text vt and doesn't reboot | 13:16 |
| seb128 | "init: Disconnected from system bus" | 13:16 |
| seb128 | is the last line on this vt | 13:17 |
| seb128 | I can vt switch but typing chars doesn't work | 13:17 |
| seb128 | ie I can't log in to see what happens | 13:17 |
| pitti | Keybuk: ^ I get exactly the same | 13:17 |
| Keybuk | huh | 13:18 |
| seb128 | it's not a one time things | 13:18 |
| seb128 | I did power off the box and booted again 2 times | 13:18 |
| seb128 | it does it every time | 13:18 |
| Keybuk | reboot? or same on poweroff too? | 13:18 |
| seb128 | I tried to reboot and stopped the box by sitting on the power button | 13:19 |
| seb128 | let me try to use the shutdown action | 13:19 |
| pitti | hm, now the boot worked, but didn't switch to X; I have to press alt+f7 | 13:20 |
| seb128 | yeah, sorry the "power off" was meant to be "after having reboot hanging I did power off the box by pressing the button" | 13:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, I got one of those too | 13:20 |
| pitti | "power off" from the menu produces the same hang as reboot | 13:20 |
| pitti | i. e. disabled keyboard, doesn't shut down | 13:20 |
| seb128 | right, same here | 13:20 |
| * pitti wants a SysRq key on the mini | 13:20 | |
| Keybuk | pitti: Alt-Fn-F10 | 13:21 |
| Keybuk | could you ssh in, and put the sshd, bash, etc. pids into sendsigs.omit.d | 13:21 |
| Keybuk | then when it hands, grab a bt of plymouth? | 13:21 |
| Keybuk | I'll do the same here too - hopefully they'll all match | 13:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you do it? I'm slightly busy with something else and there is no point to have both of us doing it | 13:22 |
| pitti | ok, doing | 13:22 |
| seb128 | I mean if you already have sshd etc handy on the mini | 13:22 |
| seb128 | (I don't) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 13:22 |
| pitti | I hope it won't tear down the wifi during shutdown | 13:22 |
| pitti | seb128: should be easy enough to install | 13:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I'm mainly wanting to not multitask too much I still want 2 things done this afternoon and call it a day early | 13:23 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 13:23 | |
| kenvandine | pitti, can i get a simple patch into gwibber that prevents CPU spin out of control? | 13:26 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yes, sure | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:26 |
| * kenvandine prepares | 13:26 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:26 |
| pitti | waah, why must NetworkManager tear down the network as soon as you log out | 13:28 |
| pitti | Keybuk: hm, I did ps aux|grep -v gdm | awk '{print $2}' | sudo tee /var/run/sendsigs.omit | 13:30 |
| pitti | Keybuk: and still get a hanging ssh after shutdown | 13:30 |
| Keybuk | WiFi or wired? | 13:31 |
| pitti | wifi | 13:31 |
| Keybuk | the wifi supplicant gets killed on shutdown | 13:31 |
| pitti | Keybuk: you think wired will be easier? | 13:31 |
| Keybuk | wired is always easier ;) | 13:31 |
| pitti | Keybuk: oh, due to an init script? | 13:31 |
| * pitti tries | 13:31 | |
| pitti | that requires rearranging my desk slightly | 13:31 |
| pitti | Keybuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/394014/ | 13:37 |
| pitti | Keybuk: the box is still in that state, and I'm ssh'ed in, in case you need further info? | 13:38 |
| Keybuk | huh | 13:38 |
| Keybuk | nothing else running? | 13:39 |
| pitti | Keybuk: the ps aux output has the kernel threads filtered out | 13:39 |
| pitti | but otherwise yes | 13:39 |
| Keybuk | status plymouth shows 1812? | 13:39 |
| pitti | status: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory | 13:39 |
| pitti | erm, *cough*, yes | 13:39 |
| Keybuk | AS ROOT! :p | 13:39 |
| pitti | plymouth stop/waiting | 13:39 |
| Keybuk | that's weird in of itself | 13:39 |
| pitti | . o { as root? .. } | 13:40 |
| Keybuk | status -> run as root | 13:40 |
| pitti | yes, I meant why I need root privs for connecting to d-bus, but nevermind | 13:40 |
| Keybuk | status run as root doesn't connect via the system bus | 13:40 |
| pitti | ah | 13:40 |
| pitti | so, plymouthd is gone | 13:40 |
| pitti | (I see text VTs, too) | 13:40 |
| Keybuk | pitti: what's rc 0 waiting for? | 13:40 |
| pitti | I see the graphical plymouht screen, then this goes away | 13:41 |
| pitti | oh, wait | 13:41 |
| pitti | Keybuk: migth that be related to bug 537262 ? | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 537262 in apport "sendsigs sometimes kills upstart jobs instead of adding them to OMITPIDS" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/537262 | 13:41 |
| pitti | Keybuk: the unkillalbe_process thing uncovered a bug that plymouth sometimes doesn't get added to sendsig's omit list | 13:41 |
| Keybuk | I think it might be | 13:41 |
| pitti | i. e. gets killed from sendsigs | 13:41 |
| Keybuk | (related) | 13:41 |
| pitti | and perhaps plymouth --wait is just waiting eternally for a nonexisting plymouthd? | 13:42 |
| pitti | Keybuk | pitti: what's rc 0 waiting for? | 13:42 |
| Keybuk | but I don't know where that plymouth --wait comes from | 13:42 |
| pitti | ^ how do you mean? | 13:42 |
| pitti | stracing rc just hangs in wait(), i. e. waits for a child | 13:42 |
| Keybuk | hmm, splash_stop() | 13:42 |
| pitti | init─┬─dhclient | 13:43 |
| pitti | ├─rc───plymouth | 13:43 |
| pitti | └─sshd───sshd───sshd───bash───pstree | 13:43 |
| Keybuk | huh | 13:44 |
| Keybuk | this is completely broken | 13:44 |
| pitti | I can try to add a cowboy patch to sendsigs to not kill plymouthds | 13:45 |
| pitti | s/s$// | 13:45 |
| Keybuk | pitti: I don't think it's sendsigs | 13:45 |
| Keybuk | I think it's the rc script itself killing plymouth | 13:45 |
| * Keybuk wonders what idiot wrote these | 13:46 | |
| kenvandine | pitti, so i should subscribe the release team to the bug right? | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | for the gwibber bug that is | 13:47 |
| pitti | kenvandine: not necessary | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | seb128, can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gwibber/ubuntu | 13:47 |
| pitti | kenvandine: we'll pick it up from the queue | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | or pitti | 13:47 |
| pitti | kenvandine: you can't upload that? | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | no | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | :/ | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | acl | 13:47 |
| pitti | kenvandine: later on, -EBUSY right now, sorry | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | i mailed cjwatson | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | seb128, you got time? | 13:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:47 |
| seb128 | np | 13:48 |
| Keybuk | pitti: remove /lib/init/splash-functions | 13:48 |
| Keybuk | then try rebooting and shutting down | 13:48 |
| pitti | that seems to work (twice i a row) | 13:49 |
| Keybuk | ok, will update PPA | 13:52 |
| Keybuk | pitti: on the sendsigs thing | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | have you seen plymouthd in that state yourself? running but status plymouthd saying not running? | 14:02 |
| pitti | Keybuk: (on the phone, brb) | 14:07 |
| pitti | Keybuk: re | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | rehi | 14:12 |
| pitti | Keybuk: I didn't see it in that state from an interactive shell, now | 14:12 |
| pitti | s/now/no/ | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | me neither yet | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | wonder whether it's dependent on graphics card, etc. | 14:12 |
| pitti | I can try adding a sleep 60 to sendsigs and ssh in, or so | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | though that'd be odd | 14:12 |
| pitti | I seem to get the bug every third boot or so | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | oh, you do see the apport message? on intel? | 14:13 |
| pitti | yes, on the mini | 14:13 |
| pitti | I added some set -x traces to that bug | 14:13 |
| pitti | for a working and a failing case | 14:13 |
| Keybuk | cool, should be easy to debug that one then | 14:13 |
| pitti | plymouthd is always running, but initctl list doesn't show a pid for it sometimes | 14:13 |
| pitti | Keybuk: I wasn't sure whether initctl is supposed to be always correct wrt to that, or whether we need another way to ignore upstart jobs | 14:14 |
| pitti | i. e. whether it's an upstart bug or a plymouth one (not registering itself, or whatnot) | 14:14 |
| Keybuk | it's supposed to be correct | 14:15 |
| pitti | Keybuk: could it be a race of plymouthd just starting up, and upstart not yet seeing the pid or so? | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | no, upstart forks plymouth, it should *know* the pid ;) | 14:18 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson, asac: should bug 531583 be made a dupe of bug 518422? it seems to be the same, and the latter is better understood and has a patch | 14:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 531583 in firefox "greasemonkey causes ff 3.6 to not load, without errors" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531583 | 14:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 518422 in firefox "Firefox does not start with certain addons installed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518422 | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yes please, they're the same issue | 14:24 |
| asac | ack | 14:24 |
| pitti | thansk | 14:25 |
| asac | unless our dailies fix one, but not the other | 14:25 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: did micah land the patch for ubuntu2? | 14:25 |
| asac | hmm | 14:26 |
| asac | we should land it | 14:26 |
| asac | on .head | 14:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you have time to review this notify-osd nm change for mirco btw? | 14:26 |
| asac | seb128: is that touching existing patches or new work? | 14:26 |
| asac | nevermind. will sort it with chris (he seems to know what this is about) | 14:27 |
| seb128 | asac, dunno, I just bounced the email, it's basically making nm use the replace feature in notify-osd | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - it's in head already | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | (the firefox patch) | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i've not had a chance to review it just yet | 14:27 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: thanks. we should ask on the bug to test the daily build then | 14:28 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: i dont see it in firefox-3.6.head | 14:28 |
| asac | maybe in xulrunner 1.9.2.head? | 14:28 |
| asac | oh its debian/patches/lp518422.patch | 14:29 |
| asac | hmm ... that should get a better name ;) | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, yeah, i was just about to get you a link | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i can test with the dailies this afternoon anyway | 14:30 |
| asac | yeah. | 14:30 |
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| asac | pitti: hmm. i think i forgot to subscribe ubuntu-archive to approved MIRs ... is that the right procedure? | 14:33 |
| pitti | asac: not necessary | 14:34 |
| pitti | kenvandine: "theming: changes to the appearance capplet might be required" -> is that still relevant/ | 14:34 |
| pitti | ? | 14:34 |
| asac | pitti: hmm. so archive admins will hunt the bug down on their own in the ubuntu-mir bug list? | 14:34 |
| pitti | usually yes (I also do that from time to time) | 14:34 |
| asac | each and every day they get a mismatch? that feels odd ;) | 14:34 |
| pitti | I walk through the approved ones, compare with component-mismatches, and promote | 14:34 |
| asac | ok | 14:34 |
| pitti | not every day, no | 14:35 |
| asac | ok thanks for clarifying. | 14:35 |
| pitti | kenvandine, Riddell: can you please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus for DX/OLS/Kubuntu? | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | pitti, will do | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i have no idea about the appearance capplet, but i will get verification | 14:40 |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks; I think the appearance capplet theming change is not required, is it? | 14:40 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok, thanks | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | i don't think so | 14:40 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, hi | 14:42 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, good morning | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | I saw your comment on bryce's ntrig blueprint | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | unfortunately it is not a low priority project | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | randomizing? yes | 14:42 |
| rickspencer3 | a little crazy? possible | 14:43 |
| rickspencer3 | low priority? no | 14:43 |
| pitti | ntrig? | 14:43 |
| rickspencer3 | it's the multi-touch ting that bryceh is doing for sabdfl | 14:43 |
| pitti | ah | 14:43 |
| Riddell | pitti: yep, I may have to leave early from the release meeting so I may miss our slot | 14:43 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: right, I set that before I got aware of the "sabdfl" tag; so please correct the priority accordingly (it's still just plain crazy, though) | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, I was not empowered to make a deciscion here unfortunately, although I did provide input | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, yeah | 14:44 |
| pitti | Riddell: I'm happy to copy&paste your snippet, and carry any other briefing you might have | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | but they did put together a risk mitigation plan | 14:44 |
| Riddell | pitti: scottK says he can do it | 14:44 |
| pitti | ok, great | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | ("sabdfl tag" - giggle) | 14:44 |
| rickspencer3 | "Right by definition" ;) | 14:45 |
| sabdfl | ya ya ya, i hear you | 14:45 |
| pitti | exactly | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | hi sabdfl, we weren't talking about you :) | 14:45 |
| pitti | sabdfl: hey Mark, how are you? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | hi seb128 | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | happy Friday | 14:49 |
| desrt | good morning everyone | 14:49 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 14:51 |
| desrt | seb128: release coming together nicely? | 14:52 |
| didrocks | good morning desrt | 14:55 |
| seb128 | desrt, yes | 14:55 |
| seb128 | desrt, I would not say no to new stable glib and gtk versions though :p | 14:56 |
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| desrt | seb128: you got a fresh new unstable only a few days ago :p | 14:56 |
| seb128 | desrt, exactly what I was saying ;-) | 14:57 |
| desrt | well | 14:57 |
| desrt | i don't do gtk releases :) | 14:57 |
| vish | seb128: hi.. is there a bug that the indicator-applet is not starting with non-default themes? and the user is not able to add it again? | 15:06 |
| vish | i think i found the problem.. | 15:06 |
| seb128 | vish, it's an indicator-sound crash bug | 15:07 |
| seb128 | vish, it's fixed in bzr | 15:07 |
| vish | ah , ok.. its seems the icon name not being present is causing the bug | 15:07 |
| vish | seb128: thanks | 15:08 |
| LaserJock | didrocks: do you have any comments on bug #527090 . I don't know how netbook-launcher can really help, it's just using clutter/pango wrapping | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 527090 in netbook-launcher "text under icons wraps badly in netbook-launcher" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527090 | 15:08 |
| seb128 | vish, look to indicator-sound open bugs | 15:09 |
| seb128 | slomo, hey | 15:09 |
| slomo | seb128: hi :) | 15:09 |
| seb128 | slomo, your glib update fails to build btw, the testsuite breaks | 15:09 |
| seb128 | slomo, I disabled that in Ubuntu for now | 15:09 |
| seb128 | slomo, the experimental debian buildds have the same issue I've seen | 15:10 |
| slomo | *sigh* | 15:10 |
| slomo | pochu: ^---- | 15:10 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: if you look, it seems related to umr launcher, the one before karmic. I guess it's fixed, cf last comment | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw robert_ancell did some work on lp:~robert-ancell/gdm/gdmsetup-sound-enable | 15:11 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: oupss, sorry, I looked at the duplicate one. Looking at the other now | 15:11 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: maybe that was a bug in pango (cf other bug report). I would ask if the issue is still relevant first with beta 1 | 15:13 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, sweet! | 15:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, the ui and communication part is done but when we talked yesterday he didn't do the actuals call from the server to set the key | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you think we can still try to get than in on monday or after beta1? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm about to run now and I doubt I will have time to look at it today but I can have a look this weekend | 15:15 |
| pitti | seb128: Monday sounds fine | 15:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok great, thanks | 15:16 |
| slomo | seb128: ok :) unlikely that someone will fix it early enough for this ubuntu release... only thaytan knows how the DVD menus work and he seems to be busy with other things | 15:21 |
| seb128 | slomo, ok, I will try to figure what update broke it if I can | 15:22 |
| * seb128 is away for some hours | 15:23 | |
| seb128 | be back a bit before dinner, I will read backlog and sponsoring etc if required before running for the weekend | 15:24 |
| seb128 | bbl | 15:24 |
| LaserJock | didrocks: well, but is it really a valid bug to start with? There's not really a way to wrap a word properly that has no . or spaces, etc. | 15:37 |
| * mclasen suggests hyphenation | 15:38 | |
| didrocks | LaserJock: my feeling is that the launcher should take more space for each icons. I don't know what was used for that | 15:38 |
| didrocks | mclasen: yeah, that will be good. Not sure what was used before | 15:39 |
| LaserJock | didrocks: used before what? | 15:40 |
| LaserJock | pango doesn't add hyphenation, it just wraps on it or a . as I understand it | 15:40 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: the launcher before karmic, and the one in karmic+lucid | 15:40 |
| LaserJock | I thought that was a seperate issue though | 15:40 |
| LaserJock | I thought that was *not* wrapping on - or . and that was fixed | 15:41 |
| * mclasen was just commenting on the claim that there is no way to wrap a word unless it contains .s or spaces | 15:41 | |
| LaserJock | right now it does a word wrap and if that fails a char wrap | 15:41 |
| mclasen | but yeah, pango doesn't do it | 15:41 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: I'm just afraid that icon placement are fixed in the current implement (didn't have the time to look at this part of code yet) | 15:42 |
| LaserJock | right, there is a fixed width I guess | 15:42 |
| LaserJock | but wouldn't we have to calculate a proper width based on the max length of names, and refigure the grid based on that? | 15:43 |
| LaserJock | so dynamically resize the icon placement based on name length | 15:43 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: that sounds good. I'm just afraid that the change will be too intrusive now | 15:43 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out | 15:43 |
| LaserJock | if it's a Lucid or Lucid+x task | 15:43 |
| didrocks | sweet, keep me posted :) | 15:44 |
| LaserJock | not using one of the long-name languages I wasn't sure how out of place the wrapping in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39713029/Bildschirmfoto-1.png is | 15:46 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: German is good to test for that, I guess :) | 15:46 |
| didrocks | yesterday, I installed a right-to-left language to test the new release | 15:47 |
| didrocks | "who put my icon back to the right?" ;) | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | pitti, on the release status page i added "ISSUES" under dx integration calling out the string change needed for consistency in social apps | 16:00 |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | which will be done real soon, and we will coordinate with translators | 16:01 |
| james_w | kenvandine: hey | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | hey james_w | 16:07 |
| james_w | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jpetersen/ubuntu/lucid/rhythmbox/appindicator/+merge/21077 | 16:07 |
| james_w | do we need to break freeze for that, or is it harmless? | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | looks harmless, but i hadn't seen it | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | tedg, can you look? | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | tedg, says it was a work around for a bug | 16:09 |
| james_w | there's https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu/lucid/ubuntuone-client/desktop-entry-i18n/+merge/21034 too | 16:09 |
| james_w | that should probably go in and be pushed upstream | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | that one is fine | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | ok, i'll make sure they get it | 16:10 |
| tedg | james_w: I'm not sure that it needs to break freeze... but it basically is that the code moved into indicator-application 0.0.16. | 16:10 |
| tedg | james_w: It shouldn't cause any harm. | 16:10 |
| james_w | tedg: ok | 16:10 |
| james_w | thanks | 16:11 |
| james_w | kenvandine: are you happy to track the rhythmbox one too? | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | james_w, yes | 16:11 |
| james_w | thanks | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | np | 16:11 |
| james_w | chrisccoulson: still planning on acting on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/530751 ? | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 530751 in hundredpapercuts ""Battery Discharging" is a horribly worded message" [Low,In progress] | 16:14 |
| chrisccoulson | james_w - did the reporter mail ubuntu-translators? (i've not checked yet) | 16:15 |
| james_w | he didn't say he has | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i was still planning on acting on it, but i've not had a lot of time | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i suppose i could have done it with the gpm upload i did earlier ;) | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | ah well | 16:15 |
| james_w | and nothing in the archives that I can see | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | me neither | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm a bit reluctant to keep uploading these types of changes | 16:16 |
| james_w | yeah | 16:19 |
| NCommander | ccheney: did you already commit the ARM fix yesterday or did I misunderstand you? (I don't see it in ooo-build) | 16:31 |
| didrocks | going out for some shopping (1 hour, I hope), bbl | 16:32 |
| LaserJock | didrocks: ping me when you get back | 16:32 |
| ccheney | NCommander: yea its committed to the 3-2 branch | 16:47 |
| ccheney | grr another new class with struct changes :-( | 17:00 |
| pitti | asac, chrisccoulson: wrt. bug 512615, how realistic would it be to use the system cairo? (in terms of newer versions which will hit lucid-updates in the future) | 17:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 | 17:04 |
| pitti | asac, chrisccoulson: I just got told that on some systems ffox looks really horrible and rainbow-striped due to that (not here, though) | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it looks pretty bad here as well | 17:04 |
| kenvandine | pitti, when you get a chance, can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gwibber/ubuntu ? | 17:06 |
| pitti | it's just a strawman, though; I'm interested in whether that would work at all, how much work it would be, and whether it would break something else | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not 100% sure what the implications of that are at the moment with regards to maintenance and support, so I'll let asac answer that one ;) | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | pitti, that includes the string changes to match indicator-* | 17:06 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | and another string change which we will bring up with the translators at the same time | 17:07 |
| * kenvandine goes to do that now | 17:07 | |
| pitti | kenvandine: (in release meeting right now, but I'll get to it) | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | np | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | pitti, and related, indicator-messages uploaded and needs approval :) | 17:07 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: asac is just answering in #release | 17:07 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - #release? | 17:11 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: #ubuntu-meeting, sorry | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - heh, no worries ;) | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i thought i was going crazy there | 17:11 |
| pitti | kenvandine: gwibber uploaded | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:15 |
| didrocks | LaserJock: I'm back | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i can't follow your conversation in #ubuntu-meeting. xchat keeps crashing every time i go there ;) | 17:22 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: so, summary is that we'll try to get our cairo patch applied to the firefox package (its bundled cairo), and asac pokes upstream to get blessing for that | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - thanks | 17:23 |
| asac | yes | 17:23 |
| pitti | asac: ^ can you please CC: chrisccoulson to keep him in the loop, so that he can eventually take over? | 17:23 |
| asac | i will keep you in the loop | 17:23 |
| asac | ack | 17:23 |
| * pitti hugs asac | 17:23 | |
| chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 17:23 |
| * pitti hugs chrisccoulson as well | 17:23 | |
| * chrisccoulson hugs pitti | 17:23 | |
| * asac hugs all ;) | 17:23 | |
| * chrisccoulson hugs asac ;) | 17:24 | |
| asac | nice hug round ;) | 17:24 |
| * chrisccoulson thinks that 4 parallel builds of thunderbird wasn't such a good idea | 17:24 | |
| chrisccoulson | i think my laptop will start smoking soon ;) | 17:24 |
| davmor2 | bryceh: are you getting reports from nvidia users about having to log in twice? | 17:27 |
| chrisccoulson | do you mean the bug where Xorg crashes when you hit enter the first time? | 17:28 |
| chrisccoulson | sounds very familiar ;) | 17:28 |
| Nafai | Yes, I see that | 17:29 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: hi.. will seb128 be coming back? or has he left for the weekend? | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | he said he would pop back later | 17:40 |
| vish | ah.. ty :) | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | pitti, can you approve gwibber and indicator-messages when you have a moment? | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - is there any plan to standardise the units used at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com so that they match https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy ? | 17:49 |
| chrisccoulson | somebody just reported a bug because their downloaded file size doesn't match what the website says ;) | 17:49 |
| kklimonda | pitti: can we update transmission to 1.92 before beta1 release (bug 538034)? it fixes one really irritating bug 505861 (and a few smaller ones) | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 538034 in transmission "Update to 1.92" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/538034 | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 505861 in transmission "Transmission download location gets the last subfolder removed on new torrents" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/505861 | 17:51 |
| kklimonda | it actually fixes one bug that is not reported on LP and which bit me in my.. seat today | 17:53 |
| NCommander | ccheney: oh, its not on master? | 18:01 |
| ccheney | NCommander: master is for OOo 3.3 | 18:03 |
| ccheney | NCommander: hadn't checked it in on master yet since i haven't verified if master even builds on ubuntu | 18:03 |
| NCommander | ccheney: ah, far enough, I'm still fairly new to all this ooo stuff :-) | 18:03 |
| NCommander | ccheney: I just started a build of branch 3.2 (confirming that the patch is there) on my ARM box | 18:06 |
| ccheney | NCommander: ok | 18:07 |
| ccheney | NCommander: i haven't tested the most up to date ooo-build-3-2 if it fails you can always just grab that single patch out of it and use what is in ubuntu currently, that should most likely work | 18:07 |
| NCommander | ccheney: cool | 18:07 |
| NCommander | ccheney: thanks | 18:07 |
| NCommander | ccheney: just as a friendly reminder, remember to make the code to import the jaunty UNO disappear :-) | 18:08 |
| ccheney | and if i can stop copying even more bits of gtk into epiphany backport then i can work on OOo again myself :-\ | 18:09 |
| ccheney | NCommander: ah ok | 18:09 |
| ccheney | NCommander: can you file a bug and target it to beta 2 assigned to me? | 18:09 |
| ccheney | NCommander: that way i won't forget :) | 18:09 |
| NCommander | ccheney: done. As a second point, what is your feelings on doing an SRU of OOo after this is fixed on lucid? | 18:10 |
| ccheney | NCommander: SRU to karmic? | 18:12 |
| ccheney | NCommander: i can do the SRU's for whichever releases that mobile wants assuming you can get them approved :) | 18:14 |
| ccheney | NCommander: also as i don't have arm hardware just make sure the patch still works for the older releases | 18:14 |
| NCommander | ccheney: not a problem | 18:15 |
| ccheney | i have another thing to add to karmic with its next upload as well, but wasn't serious enough to do a sru just for it | 18:16 |
| ccheney | i'm going to add a message to error output telling if the user was told to kill OOo during upgrade when they file a bug so i can set it up to autoclose new bugs relating to that :) | 18:17 |
| ccheney | i'm getting hundreds of probably invalid bugs filed because users file bugs after it tells them to kill OOo to do the upgrade, heh | 18:17 |
| * kenvandine runs out for a late lunch/errands | 18:22 | |
| kenvandine | bbiab | 18:22 |
| pitti | kenvandine: done | 18:24 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I don't know a plan, but please feel free to file a bug against cdimage | 18:24 |
| pitti | kklimonda: please get it uploaded (it's just bug fixes) | 18:25 |
| pitti | kklimonda: it will be accepted or deferred until after beta-1 (but I guess it will go throug if it lands today) | 18:25 |
| * pitti calls it a week | 18:29 | |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: can you take a look at bug 538034? :) | 18:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 538034 in transmission "Update to 1.92" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/538034 | 18:32 |
| Keybuk | pitti: ooh, I've just worked out the plymouth thing | 18:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: enjoy your week-end! | 18:33 |
| Keybuk | (sendsigs) | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, i will do in a bit | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, was bug 533559 discussed with anybody? | 18:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533559 in ubuntu-meta "Computer Janitor has GUI bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533559 | 18:35 |
| * kenvandine changed his mind... gonna go later :) | 18:36 | |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, hi | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3 | 18:42 |
| rickspencer3 | if you apt-get remove evo, should the mail and new mail entries stay in the messaging indicator? | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | humm | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | no | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | but the service probably needs a restart | 18:43 |
| pochu | seb128: looking at the glib failure | 19:05 |
| pochu | it seems to fail randomly | 19:05 |
| seb128 | pochu, it fails every time there | 19:05 |
| pochu | seb128: yeah, it fails at the same point, but it doesn't always fail | 19:07 |
| pochu | i.e. I've just run that test like 4 times and it's passed 2 and failed another 2 | 19:07 |
| Roblob | Hello | 19:16 |
| Roblob | where can I find a release manager to express my concerns | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | Roblob, #ubuntu-devel | 19:16 |
| hyperair | Roblob: i'm no release manager, but out of curiosity, what concerns are these? | 19:24 |
| * vish votes for hyperair as release manager ;) | 19:24 | |
| hyperair | vish: lol. | 19:25 |
| Roblob | menus on the left | 19:30 |
| Roblob | by default in an LTS release | 19:30 |
| Roblob | and to spring it 1 hour before the interface freeze | 19:30 |
| Roblob | just dirty | 19:30 |
| Roblob | and even the icons look like the mac icons (speakers, wifi) etc | 19:30 |
| vish | Roblob: you mean the metacity buttons? | 19:30 |
| Roblob | I hope Apple sue canonical to death | 19:31 |
| Roblob | I will not be going to 10.04 or higher untill the buttons move back to the right | 19:31 |
| vish | Roblob: this channel is not the best place to discuss this , see > https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00998.html , | 19:33 |
| vish | robbiew: it was a design decision , if you are concerned , you can reply to the ayatana mailing list [ https://launchpad.net/~ayatana ] [and do be civil ;)] | 19:34 |
| vish | oops , Roblob ^ | 19:34 |
| vish | sry , robbie_w | 19:35 |
| Roblob | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422422 | 19:35 |
| Roblob | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23899/ | 19:35 |
| Roblob | no one likes the left menus | 19:35 |
| vish | Roblob: yes , if you are concerned ,about the choice , you need to respond to the ayatana mailing list.. noone here can help you with that | 19:36 |
| * kenvandine heads out for the day... have a good weekend all! | 20:37 | |
| baptistemm_ | asac, I attached a diff as you requested to bug 534702 | 20:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 534702 in bluez "Update bluez to 4.62" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534702 | 20:46 |
| chrisccoulson | hey baptistemm_ | 20:47 |
| baptistemm_ | heya chrisccoulson | 20:47 |
| chrisccoulson | we're frozen now ;) | 20:47 |
| baptistemm_ | :/ | 20:47 |
| === MacSlow|capoeira is now known as MacSlow | ||
| ccheney | bratsche: ping | 21:34 |
| ccheney | bratsche: i am having trouble linking to gtk with epiphany see: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394262/ rickspencer3 mentioned you might know how to determine what i am doing wrong | 21:44 |
| * bratsche clicks | 21:46 | |
| bratsche | ccheney: Can you paste the actual linker command? | 21:48 |
| ccheney | bratsche: yea just a minute | 21:49 |
| ccheney | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394274/ | 21:49 |
| bratsche | I think those functions are not exported to the .so | 21:52 |
| ccheney | so is it a bug that they are in headers in /usr/include ? :) | 21:52 |
| ccheney | at least i would think that if they aren't linkable they wouldn't be in include | 21:53 |
| bratsche | Why is this in Epiphany? Is it just a copy of the module from gtk? | 21:55 |
| ccheney | bratsche: yea we are backporting the new epiphany to hardy which requires copying bits of various libs into epiphany | 21:56 |
| bratsche | ccheney: Do you have a branch somewhere I can pull just to look at it? I'm not really sure why it would need to pull that in. | 21:58 |
| ccheney | bratsche: not at the moment, it needs those because i had to pull in all of gtkimmulticontext.c | 21:59 |
| ccheney | bratsche: which iirc was in turn needed by gtkentry | 21:59 |
| ccheney | bratsche: which was needed by several parts of epiphany | 22:00 |
| bratsche | Is it not provided by the gtk+ that comes in Hardy? | 22:00 |
| ccheney | bratsche: only an older version without the needed functions, and the newer version that has the functions had a new private struct which was not compatible, etc | 22:01 |
| ccheney | those three functions shouldn't be too hard to deal with i hope, will see how it goes | 22:02 |
| bratsche | Is there a copy of GtkEntry in this as well or something? | 22:03 |
| ccheney | yea | 22:04 |
| ccheney | had to copy in gtkentry first then the other ones to build it | 22:04 |
| ccheney | backporting gtk apps is a pita :-\ | 22:04 |
| bratsche | Why did you need a new GtkEntry in this? | 22:05 |
| bratsche | Is Epiphany actually setting the IM module to the entry itself? | 22:06 |
| ccheney | it was using a lot of new gtkentry symbols from what i recall epiphany switched to using gtkentry new functions instead of old ones it used to have itself | 22:07 |
| bratsche | Oh nice, they're using my new icon API now. That would do it. :) | 22:08 |
| bratsche | That makes me happy. :) | 22:08 |
| ccheney | hehe | 22:08 |
| ccheney | yes it is good going forward but makes backporting hell :) | 22:08 |
| bratsche | I don't see it using the im-module stuff though, so you could try removing that from the GtkEntry you're backporting over.. | 22:09 |
| bratsche | Its git revision is 5d4bb27b if that helps, so if you have a git tree then do "git show 5d4bb27b" to get a patch and try to reverse it. | 22:10 |
| ccheney | ah ok let me see if i can remove that part | 22:10 |
| bratsche | That makes more sense to me than trying to backport this immulticontext stuff. | 22:10 |
| ccheney | where do i check the git branch out from? | 22:12 |
| ccheney | it looks like the reason its being pulled in is due to gtkimmulticontext pulling it in, not from gtkentry itself | 22:13 |
| bratsche | git clone git://git.gnome.org/gtk+ | 22:13 |
| * mclasen cannot imagine that epiphany needs that new immodule functionality... | 22:13 | |
| ccheney | checking it out now, will take some time, heh looks like git is about 200MiB | 22:15 |
| bratsche | If you're going to be pulling stuff from Gnome git very often, you should setup a shortcut in your .gitconfig | 22:15 |
| bratsche | So you can just do "git clone gnome:gtk+" or whatever. | 22:15 |
| bratsche | [url "ssh://bratsche@git.gnome.org/git/"] | 22:16 |
| bratsche | insteadof = gnome: | 22:16 |
| bratsche | (or whatever your username is, or using anonymous git) | 22:16 |
| ccheney | ok | 22:17 |
| ccheney | bratsche: i might be missing something but that patch doesn't seem to be enough to revert the need for gtkimmodule? | 22:24 |
| ccheney | bratsche: it seems to just change some of the calls but still uses them | 22:24 |
| * ccheney thinks he almost has it building just adding those last three symbols in | 22:39 | |
| ccheney | grr more private functions | 22:40 |
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| ccheney | in automake how do i make something like to another library in another directory of the same build? | 22:51 |
| ccheney | i need lib/widgets/Makefile.am library to link to the lib/Makefile.am library | 22:52 |
| ccheney | ah foo_LDADD = bar.la | 22:56 |
| ccheney | er LIBADD for libraries | 22:58 |
| ccheney | hmm that didn't work maybe because its a noinst library, hmm | 23:00 |
| walters | ccheney: i suggest non-recursive automake | 23:04 |
| ccheney | walters: i'm modifying epiphany so don't really want to rewrite the build system :) | 23:06 |
| ccheney | walters: any idea what i would need to do to have it link between dirs properly? | 23:06 |
| ccheney | in this case it seems it needs to do be static since the library isn't installed | 23:07 |
| istaz | bratsche: oh great I didn't know that | 23:07 |
| bratsche | Hmm? | 23:08 |
| bratsche | What's that? | 23:08 |
| ccheney | bratsche: or do you know? :) | 23:08 |
| istaz | bratsche: the git shortcut tip | 23:09 |
| bratsche | ccheney: Did you get the gtkimmodule thing sorted out? | 23:09 |
| ccheney | bratsche: yea i just ended up adding the bits it needed which fixed that part then i got to a point where its claiming bits aren't there for linking from the lib dir, in lib/widgets | 23:10 |
| ccheney | bratsche: so i think i need to somehow link in the lib dir library to lib/widgets | 23:10 |
| bratsche | I'm not that good with automake fu, I unfortunately usually just hack around until it works. :/ | 23:11 |
| ccheney | ok, i'll see if i can find a way to make it work | 23:12 |
| ccheney | i get this weird bit: make[5]: *** No rule to make target `../../lib/libephymisc.la', needed by `libephywidgets.la'. Stop. | 23:25 |
| ccheney | due to adding: | 23:25 |
| ccheney | libephywidgets_la_LIBADD = \ $(top_builddir)/lib/libephymisc.la \ $(DEPENDENCIES_LIBS) | 23:25 |
| ccheney | which is essentially the same thing done in src/Makefile.am but apparently it works there | 23:25 |
| Keybuk | isn't built yet then ;-) | 23:35 |
| Keybuk | order of SUBDIRS | 23:35 |
| ccheney | Keybuk: oh | 23:39 |
| ccheney | Keybuk: should i put . in before? | 23:40 |
| ccheney | Keybuk: its shows as SUBDIRS = widgets egg (but no ref to the current one) | 23:40 |
| Keybuk | I don't think you can do that | 23:40 |
| Keybuk | oh, yes you can | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | yes, do that | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | By default, Automake generates `Makefiles' that work depth-first in | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | postfix order: the subdirectories are built before the current | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | directory. However, it is possible to change this ordering. You can | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | do this by putting `.' into `SUBDIRS'. For instance, putting `.' first | 23:41 |
| Keybuk | will cause a prefix ordering of directories. | 23:41 |
| ccheney | ok | 23:41 |
| ccheney | yea that seemed to help a lot | 23:43 |
| ccheney | it fixed the other errors just one left | 23:43 |
| ccheney | Keybuk: thanks that was enough to make it finish building :) | 23:51 |
| ccheney | now just have to see why it fails in dh_install :-\ | 23:51 |
| ccheney | hmm must have disabled a patch renaming the epiphany dir to epiphany-browser | 23:52 |
| * ccheney will fix that after dinner, bbl | 23:52 | |
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