[00:00] <teage> ok, feel stupid now. mhall119|work, thanks
[00:00] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: let's do some more check, if it's a standard karmic install, shall be there by default, which ubuntu version are you running ?
[00:00] <adante> hi, can someone quickly recommend a recovery tool for ext3 if i deleted a file i didn't want to
[00:01] <DasEi> adante: by rm ?
[00:01] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: 9.10....but I just uninstalled a whole bunch of KDE crap
[00:01] <jrib> !recover | adante
[00:01] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:02] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: pastebinit /var/log/kernel.log
[00:02] <DavidJHeinrich> k
[00:02] <fabio666> do you have plymouth working on ati card?
[00:03] <airtonix> DasEi, you havet hat working right now ? last i checked it doesn't work anymore.
[00:03] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: that just waits for a while, then produces http://pastebin.com
[00:03] <boodroscotch> Hi there everybody. Could I remove the fglrx ATi driver for my Radeon card and depend solely on the xorg OSS drivers?
[00:04] <mhall119|work> DavidJHeinrich: pastebin.com changed, but pastebinit will still work against paste.ubuntu.com
[00:04] <fabio666> boodroscotch: use radeon in the xorg.conf
[00:04] <boodroscotch> for example: the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package?
[00:04] <fabio666> not sure the best thing to do
[00:04] <frankS2> How can I make pulseaudio accept several audio input streams? Like I cant play music in mpd and listen to something at youtube at the sametime
[00:04] <DavidJHeinrich> mhall119|work: so how do I get it to send stuff there?
[00:04] <al-tabq> is there any way to create a shortcut in the applications menu for a program written in java? it won't open .jar and doesn't execute commands
[00:04] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com  var/log/kernel.log
[00:04] <mhall119|work> DavidJHeinrich: it's in the man page
[00:05] <iceroot> al-tabq: make a shortcut with "java -jar /path/to/the/file.jar"
[00:05] <DasEi> airtonix: the paster ? gnarf, still broken, have to give site manually, see above
[00:05] <al-tabq> iceroot, i tried that but it won't execute
[00:05] <al-tabq> iceroot, i created a shortcut in .bashrc but it would be nice to have it in the menu as well
[00:05] <Typos_King> al-tabq:    I use a simple   script to call the java -jar ...., in ~/bin and use that to call it
[00:05]  * airtonix creates an override script
[00:06] <fabio666> al-tabq: try with java "-jar ..."
[00:06] <al-tabq> Typos_King, so you use a bash script to execute the the java and link the script, that makes sense
[00:06] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: should reveal url now
[00:06] <al-tabq> fabio666, i'll try that
[00:07] <Typos_King> al-tabq:    yes
[00:07] <fabio666> al-tabq: just do the way wine works
[00:07] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: from that command, I get a few msgs, then "IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known"
[00:07] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: but I just manually did it, here's the pastebin of /var/log/kern.log : http://pastebin.com/eCeHY8Gr
[00:07] <EagleScreen> do you know the dbus command to increase the screen brightness?
[00:07] <Typos_King> al-tabq:    and on some, like my jEdit call, it uses the argument for -settings="...."   to tell where my configuration files are.... so.... I use all that in the script
[00:08] <joab> I'm trying to complete uninstall sendmail (I don't want any smtp on this server) but it will only let me uninstall sendmail if I install some other smtp instead. What can I do?
[00:08] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com  /var/log/kernel.log              ,typo, the /
[00:09] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I fixed it, still doesn't work
[00:09] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: anyways, I put that file on pastebin manually, see the link : http://pastebin.com/eCeHY8Gr
[00:09] <al-tabq> Typos_Kind, nice! i'm just gonna use it for jdownloader though
[00:09] <boodroscotch> so would anything bad happen if I removed fglrx like right now?
[00:09] <adante> DasEi: uhh via samba so... not sure
[00:10] <Typos_King> EagleScreen   assuming there is one, which I doubt at all
[00:10] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com  /var/log/kern.log
[00:10] <al-tabq> Typos_King, #!/bin/bash, then java -jar ... should work right?
[00:10] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I put that file on pastebin, it is here: http://pastebin.com/eCeHY8Gr
[00:10] <Typos_King> al-tabq:    yes
[00:11] <DasEi> adante: nick-miss ?
[00:11] <Losha> joab: interesting. What *exactly* does it say when you try to remove sendmail?
[00:11] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: reading..
[00:11] <al-tabq> Typos_King, and then as 'sh ~/name.sh' in the menu aight?
[00:12] <al-tabq> Typos_King, sry for asking so much mate, still figuring how thinks work
[00:13] <Typos_King> al-tabq:    no need to sh it, just make it executable ->   chmod a+x name.sh; and call it name.sh or whatever else; I dump mines on ~/bin
[00:13] <joab> Losha: Well, I tried installing postfix now to see if that would remove sendmail, and it did. But now I can't get rid of postfix instead.
[00:13] <al-tabq> Typos_King done, it works. thanks a lot
[00:14] <joab> Losha: hmm.. It seems something called sensible-mda and mailx depends on sendmail/postfix. Removing those now... Yep, that did it :)
[00:14] <Losha> joab: very good...
[00:14] <crankharder> part
[00:15] <joab> Losha: I've just gotten this new VPS and the company that sells them seem to have preloaded them with a lot of stuff :(
[00:15] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: seems like least 3 usb devices to me, wacom (tablet) storage and mouse, but no cam, again: does lsusb list any logitech ?
[00:15] <joab> Losha: Any way to list all packages installed?
[00:15] <Losha> joab: yes, dpkg --get-selections "*"
[00:15] <Typos_King> joab:    sudo apt-get pkgnames;
[00:15] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: but he Wacom isn't a Logitech, right? and there are more USB devices thanthat (printer, scanner, DVD-drive as well)
[00:16] <Typos_King> erk
[00:16] <Typos_King> joab:    sudo apt-cache pkgnames;
[00:16] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: let me post he results of lsusb
[00:16] <joab> Thanks
[00:17] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: results of lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393646/
[00:17] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: no, just paste the output of lsusb with cam connected
[00:17] <DasEi> y
[00:17] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I just did, http://paste.ubuntu.com/393646/
[00:19] <GodfatherofEire> Quick question, how do I chroot properly into my drive to run commands for the drive?
[00:19] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: yes, seems recognized though kernel declares it as usb reiceiver ; wacom is your touchpad
[00:19] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: you've got the partition mounted, yes?
[00:20] <GodfatherofEire> brjann, not yet, I remember something about mounting and looping it
[00:20] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: one of them is a USB receiver. I have 2 Logitech devices -- my webcam, and my mouse
[00:20] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: no looping necessary; I assume you're in another OS or on a live cd?
[00:20] <GodfatherofEire> brjann, just on the live CD
[00:21] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: okay. what partitions do you have? just one, mounted at / ?
[00:21] <Backwards1> Can anyone answer an RSS feed question for me?  The Slashdot RSS feed (http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot) seems to list 15 stories at a time.  If a desktop feed reader was not running, but is opened after say 18 new items have been posted, is there any way for it to automatically fill in any gap?  Are there multiple pages to a feed, or anything like that which would allow it to catch up fully?
[00:21] <GodfatherofEire> brjann, yeah, just the one
[00:21] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I presume this one is the webcam, b/c when I unplug the Logitech mouse receiver, this is all that shows up for Logitech from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 011: ID 046d:0802 Logitech, Inc.
[00:22] <GodfatherofEire> Technically its not ubuntu, but Back|Track, but its a debian-type distro, so its close enough.
[00:22] <GodfatherofEire> I can chroot in, I just thought I needed to loop some dir
[00:22] <Drknezz> Hi guys! Whats the FASTEST filesystem? EXT2/3/4?
[00:22] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   wha?
[00:22] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: oh, do you mean /proc and /dev and all that?
[00:22] <GodfatherofEire> Yes, there we go
[00:22] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: let's try to ensure webcamdriver is there, then try a reboot, maybe unplug the receiver once, to see if that interferes:            http://paste.ubuntu.com/393659/
[00:22] <Drknezz> !ext4
[00:22] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Do you know anything about desktop RSS readers?
[00:23] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: gotcha. go ahead and mount your root partition, say at /mnt/ubuntu
[00:23] <Typos_King> Drknezz:    can't say, I've used all 3 and the only difference between is, ext2 isn't journaling, the other 2 are, I've used both 3 and 4, and the speed seems to be the same :)
[00:23] <Drknezz> Typos_King: Isnt ext4 faulty?
[00:23] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: then you'll    sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/ubuntu/proc    and     sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev
[00:23] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   not sure what that is, sounds like a new 'buzzword' though
[00:23] <Typos_King> than a practical feature
[00:23] <jpds> Drknezz: No.
[00:24] <KaOSoFt> ZykoticK9- Eject worked, but now the installation doesn't detect the new disc, hahaha.
[00:24] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: should I just paste that whole thing into my terminal?
[00:24] <Typos_King> Drknezz:    nope, worked fine for me
[00:24] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Not that new, but sort of buzzword-ish, I guess.
[00:24] <Drknezz> jpds: i heard ext4 was pretty fast, but easily corruptable
[00:24] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: also take a look at output from dmesg, if there are errors shown ;       yes, whole block
[00:24] <GodfatherofEire> brjann, then chroot I assume?
[00:24] <jpds> Drknezz: Yeah, it's been fidxed.
[00:24] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   then.... not sure what your 'buzzword' stand for :{
[00:24] <Drknezz> jpds: Phoronix guys lost some benchmark data because of that
[00:24] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: once that's done, you can chroot:     sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash      and     source /etc/profile     (that last command is inside the chroot)
[00:25] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: yep
[00:25] <GodfatherofEire> brjann, thanks a million
[00:25] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: k, doing the command u sent me
[00:25] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Really Simple Syndication.  Thanks, but it'd probably take someone fairly familiar with feed readers to answer the question.
[00:25] <brjann> GodfatherofEire: no problem, good luck :)
[00:25] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:26] <zoeid> ciao a tutti
[00:26] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   I know what RSS is :P, and I use an RSS aggregator, I gather it might be what your 'buzzword' is attempting to address, sorry for my lack of 'c00lness'
[00:26] <artistx> ubuntu
[00:27] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I ran into this: http://pastebin.com/MMjjrmLy
[00:27] <serverduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426406
[00:27] <serverduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426406
[00:27] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Sure, same thing, probably.  Does it run on your desktop or do you use a web-based one?
[00:27] <zoeid> hi !
[00:27] <Typos_King> !it | zoeid
[00:27] <serverduck> please reply to my thread
[00:27] <serverduck> I can't stay long enough for a reply here, my pppoe disconnects every 2 minute
[00:28] <serverduck> s
[00:28] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I see no ubuntu directory under /lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/
[00:28] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   does  it run on my desktop? hehe, I use AKgregator, is an app on its own, and usually runs on the tray and shows me if any new articles are in or so
[00:28] <artistx> what is it?
[00:28] <Typos_King> and I can launch it and read it from there
[00:29] <serverduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426406
[00:29] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Ok, so yeah, it runs on your system.  Do you follow any feeds that move quickly?  So quickly that it will have cycled more content through the feed in the time your computer has been offline that the feed itself holds?
[00:30] <Typos_King> serverduck:   sorry, no familiar with such yet... .maybe you want to elaborate more on how and when it exactly happens, for others to be able to help, 'does not work' isn't really explainful, and there's a lack of clarivoyancy in the channel ^_^
[00:30] <artistx> si parla italiano... no so molto italiano. io se spagnolo
[00:31] <serverduck> Typos_King, I have configured my pppoe with sudo pppoeconf...sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't...if i type plog in the terminal something strange is there...maybe this can help you guys...
[00:32] <jolaren> Anyone have tips on a good media player for .asx streams?
[00:32] <serverduck> Typos_King, serial link appears to be disconnected/connection terminated.modem hangup/ (so it gives me the connection time...anything works great and then when my internet goes down and i plog i see this.)
[00:32] <Typos_King> Backwards1:   nope, the feeds I use, usually the aggregator dl's less than what they actually have in archive, this I know becuase I've used the feed url with other apps and showed me more....the articles I have aren't that old, in fact I already read the ones for today ^_^
[00:32] <dougmencken> hi all, I want to try Ubuntu; how good is it? video (.avis) and dvd? audio cd, mp3s?
[00:32] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: sudo apt-get install easycam2-core  easycam2-qt
[00:33] <Backwards1> Typos_King: Ok, well thanks anyway.
[00:33] <DasEi> dougmencken: fine, no probs here
[00:33] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: why am I getting that?
[00:33] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I installed Cheese, it says no camera
[00:33] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: it's an automatic driver-checking utility
[00:34] <berkedurak> hello there.  i have a few weeks free time and i'd like to contribute some small gui application that would be actually useful to end-users.  does anyone have ideas?
[00:34] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: either cause you're usb go wrong in recognition or right driv er isn't on your sys
[00:34] <dougmencken> hmm, in Debian I'm experiencing cd auto-close problem, no working drm/radeon driver for my card, libata can't play audiocds
[00:34] <Typos_King> doughmencken:   ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu or eeebuntu?
[00:34] <Typos_King> :P
[00:34] <jrib> dougmencken: #debian
[00:34] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: it says, "E: Couldn't find package easycam2-core
[00:34] <DavidJHeinrich> "
[00:35] <Typos_King> serverduck:   sorry, no familiar with such yet :(
[00:35] <DasEi> !info easycam2-core
[00:35] <DavidJHeinrich> great
[00:35] <DasEi> !info easycam2-qt
[00:36] <dougmencken> Typos_King, I prefer E16 (Enlightenment 16), if you're curious; jrib, I was in #debian, I sent 5 bug reports in the last week; but I have told many times that in Ubuntu is everything fine
[00:36] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I also searched for it in synaptic, no love
[00:36] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: it's in my repos somwhere, but there is..
[00:36] <sqwertle> could someone take a look at this and offer some insight? http://tinyurl.com/yhkc9wo
[00:36] <jrib> dougmencken: that's fine, I thought you were asking for help with a debian issue
[00:37] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: 32 or 64 bit ?
[00:37] <brjann> berkedurak: #ubuntu is for support, not development; but you might ask in #ubuntu-devel :)
[00:37] <Typos_King> doughmencken:   E16 is not a distribution though, sure you can run E16 under ubuntu, since it's just a window manager :p
[00:37] <dougmencken> okay, so worth a try; wgetting ubuntu .iso
[00:37] <artistx> que se hace aqui exactamente__
[00:37] <Typos_King> !es | artistx
[00:37] <berkedurak> brjann: thanks will do but I think end-users would have better ideas than developers
[00:38] <dougmencken> Typos_King, yeah, e16 works well with KDE or Gnome, the only thing is to kill nautilus coz it can show only one desktop wallpaper for all workspaces
[00:38] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: gksudo  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list              , do you run 32 or 64 bit ?
[00:38] <serverduck> Typos_King, ehh it's ok. thanks anyway! :)
[00:39] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: 64-bit
[00:39] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich:k, close gedit , is just for 32, then :
[00:40] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: wget http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/easycam2-core.deb
[00:40] <DasEi> sudo dpkg -i easycam2-core.deb
[00:40] <Typos_King> doughmencken:   ... well... not sure on nautilus..hehe, I use Krusader
[00:41] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: ^2 commands
[00:41] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi, ok
[00:41] <rahduke> can someone tell me how to make a status bar in conky wider
[00:42] <DavidJHeinrich> that results in dependency problems - leaving unconfigured... "Errors were encountered while processing: easycam2-core"
[00:42] <DavidJHeinrich> i'm installing python-xml, it needs that
[00:42] <kai_> The Synaptics TouchPad driver isn't working anymore: (EE) PreInit returned NULL for ""SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad""
[00:43] <DavidJHeinrich> arg, it says, python-xlm is not available, but is referred to by another package...E: Package python-xml has no installation candidate
[00:43] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:43] <kai_> Also, gpointing-device-settings also messed up APT
[00:43] <kai_> And tpconfig.
[00:43] <serverduck> If someone is familliar with pppoe please pm me or say here thanks!
[00:43] <kai_> Actually, I guess I should be in #ubuntu+1...
[00:44] <m4j> is there a live broadcast for ubuntu like stickam
[00:44] <m4j> is there a live broadcast for ubuntu like stickam
[00:44] <l0lwut> Has anyone figured out how to get wpa2 to properly work on the rl2860 chipset, I've installed the most recent version and it refuses to stay connected. If i restart my laptop,(Eee 1000he), it will connect momentarily only to drop the connection a minute or so later after which I cannot reconnect what so ever. Ive been searhing the forums for the last two hours and have yet to find any solution that works.
[00:45] <histo> Is it possible for a command line system to be going in to some sort of sleep mode?
[00:45] <m4j> is there a live broadcast for ubuntu like stickam
[00:45] <histo> I have a server running apache and it keeps hanging. It drops off the network.
[00:46] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: still error about phython-xml ?
[00:46] <Typos_King> l0lwut:    ...... I am assuming it might be the drivers for the 2860?
[00:46] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I ran the sudo apt-get -f install, still error about python, no installationcandidate
[00:47] <l0lwut> typos_king, ive downloaded the most recent ones and they still wont work
[00:47] <histo> I've checked syslog and messages and can't find any info about why its hanging. It just locks up randomly
[00:47] <Typos_King> l0lwut:    ... I mean, not sure on the wpa2 part, but I use a ralink 2860 and works peachy for me, then again, I installed the drivers which came in .zip by running 'make install'
[00:47] <l0lwut> typos_king, the weird thing is that if i set my router to tkip or aes it connects but if it is tkip/aes it wont
[00:47] <Hathadar> I have setup sodoers to allow a specific user access to /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon.  I have set that user's timeout to -1 so I do not have to enter the sudo password.  This works well.  When I try to run the same command via plink, i get this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d82MB519
[00:48] <Typos_King> l0lwut:    the most recent ones,..  which ones are those?
[00:48] <l0lwut> typos_king, are you using v2.3 of the drivers?
[00:48] <histo> I have a dell optiplex 170l that just randomly hangs in ubuntu. I at first thought it was hardware. So Installed on another optiplex 170l and it also hangs.
[00:48] <Losha> m4j: do you mean is there a video streaming server for ubuntu?
[00:49] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     ralink issued a 2086 driver, which is no longer available on their site, but I found them through another peripherals maker, who has them for their hardware, when I downloaded, it noticed the .zip file was the one issued by ralink, no longer on their website
[00:49] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: yes, phython-xml permantly removed from karmic, try to start it : gksudo 'python /usr/share/EasyCam2/core.py --gtk'
[00:49] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     I don't use the 2.3, this one is the 2086 from ralink
[00:50] <histo> Just looking for ideas on where to troubleshoot
[00:50] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: that gives me a carot...should I close the quote ' ?
[00:50] <l0lwut> typos_king, can you send me a link or something to those drivers?
[00:50] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     one sec
[00:51] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: that tells me, "python: can't open file '/usr/share/EasyCam2/core.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory~ $
[00:51] <DavidJHeinrich> "
[00:52] <Hathadar> I have setup sodoers to allow a specific user access to /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon.  I have set that user's timeout to -1 so I do not have to enter the sudo password.  This works well.  When I try to run the same command via plink, i get this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d82MB519  How do I correct this?
[00:52] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=225&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44     <---- the link at the bottom for the 'open source', notice the name of the .zip file, that was the one issued by RaLink
[00:52] <Losha> histo: it might still be hardware: something about that model may tickle some kernel bug. That said, only one other person seems to report hanging with ubuntu on google, and it's not the same as your case. Which release are you running?
[00:55] <ppaulhus> Hey, the display menu in gnome does not provide me with the native resolution of my monitor... how would I proceed into changing the resolution to that custom resolution.. I tried to create an xorg.conf file but it does not seem to work.. still goes back to 1024x768 (havent messed with xorg.conf in a while so maybe im doing something wrong there). Any tips/tricks?
[00:55] <panfist> can someone please tell me why xdmcp is such a pain in karmic? i used to use it all the time. i just upgraded, and after two hours i still can't get it working
[00:55] <l0lwut> typos_king, so you use that one and it works fine? also thats weird lol
[00:55] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     yeah, works fine for me
[00:56] <Yyharssargyhaell> ppaulhus, You can't adjust for 1024x768?
[00:56] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     btw, I don't think that is the same as the 2.3v
[00:56] <coz_> ppaulhus, you could use  xrandr
[00:56] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: wget http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/easycam2-qt.deb
[00:56] <DasEi> sudo dpkg -i easycam2-qt.deb
[00:56] <Yyharssargyhaell> Sorry, read wrong
[00:56] <Yyharssargyhaell> >_>
[00:56] <coz_> ppaulhus,   maybe here  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[00:56] <ppaulhus> Yyharssargyhaell: no, that's what it displays right now, but the native resoution is bigger
[00:56] <Yyharssargyhaell> ppaulhus, Yeah, I misread - follow coz_'s suggestion
[00:57] <ppaulhus> Yyharssargyhaell: thanks, I'll have a look
[00:57] <l0lwut> typos_king, yeah that is version 1.8 I have read in a bunch of places that it has the same problem, are you able to connect to a network that uses tkip/aes rather then just one of those individually?
[00:57] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: that's a kde package, but avoids these deps
[00:57] <histo> Losha: karmic
[00:57] <ppaulhus> also, when I installed ubuntu, I had an nvidia video card in there... but now i removed it and im back to the onboard intel.. do i need to install drivers or something or thats taken care of automatically with 9.10?
[00:57] <histo> Losha: I'm thinking something with acpi maybe?  i'll try acpi=off when I get physical access to the box tomorrow.
[00:58] <histo> After changing /etc/default/grub do you need to run update-grup for the changes to take effect? or does it pull the file dynamically?
[00:58] <trism> histo: you need to run update-grub
[00:58] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: that results inan error: http://pastebin.com/PeDfDZic
[00:58] <DasEi> ppaulhus: worth a try, but might have to reconfigure graphics, is your current xorg empty ?
[00:58] <Losha> histo: You might also try 8.04LTS, as its the most stable. If that doesn't work, I'd try openbsd, which has a different kernel altogether...
[01:00] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     .... no, haven't needed to..... for aes/tkip..... as said, dunno on the wpa2 part... but for me it works very well, I believe the 2.3v you're addressing is for 2300 chipsets, not 2860.....I recall I also found .zip for 2500 and 2600.... but my chipset is 2860
[01:01] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     I do know that the connection I use doesn't have wpa2 or aes that I know hehe
[01:01] <Purpley> If I burn a iso to a cd with CD/DVD CReator will it be a live cd?
[01:02] <l0lwut> typos_king, yeah the thing is i can connect to non wpa2 networks no problem
[01:02] <Typos_King> Purpley:    .iso images burn at 'raw', if the .iso is bootable, the cd will boot, regardless of what app you use to burn it with
[01:03] <Typos_King> l0lwut:     .... can't say, haven't needed to myself yet :), are you on kubuntu?
[01:03] <l0lwut> typos_king, nah ubuntu
[01:04] <Typos_King> ...ok, I know knetworkmanagers doesn't do wpa2.... so hehe
[01:04] <l0lwut> typos_king, its just frustrating I moved from slackware13 to ubuntu just because its easier to mange updates n such but its proved to be quite a pain
[01:04] <Typos_King> hhhehe, and slackware13 wasn't? sorta speak
[01:06] <Typos_King> l0lwut:        there's .... a network manager which is meant to be optimized for RaLInk chipsets, 'rtutil', is in the repositories, not sure if that may help you, I've used it
[01:06] <Losha> Purpley: if you burn it in image mode, and the iso is the correct one, the answer is yes, it will be a bootable live cd
[01:07] <spencer_> QUESTION: installing gnome-voice-control in Karmic does not seem to install an accompanying applet, anybody know what to do? I've never used it but I've heard of it and would like to try it out
[01:07] <GhostFreeman> !ubottu | git
[01:07] <Hathadar> I have setup sodoers to allow a specific user access to /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon.  I have set that user's timeout to -1 so I do not have to enter the sudo password.  This works well.  When I try to run the same command via plink, i get this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d82MB519  How do I correct this?
[01:08] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: sudo apt-get install  build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:09] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: nope, still no love
[01:10] <GhostFreeman> How do I use the channel bot and ask him a question
[01:10] <brandon420> i need someone that is really good with networks and ssh to help me out please
[01:10] <histo> Losha: Yeah my hunch is power management issue i';m thinking. Which is wierd because I thought a command line system wouldnt' use any power management stuff.
[01:10] <trism> !askthebot | GhostFreeman
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> How do I install git on Ubuntu?
[01:12] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: just to be sure, the last ; now disconect the receiver, it's strange to me that usb-cam isn't clearly listed in lsusb, try a reboot, if that won't do we can try to manually make the old hardy driver, though not very elegant; short before I used easycam (kde one) here, it's still working fine, but their wbsite seems down, too
[01:13] <trism> GhostFreeman: sudo apt-get install git-core;
[01:13] <duclam> anyone using hp laptops with nVidia graphic card? and have problem with the display???
[01:14] <Nooneshere> Hello
[01:14] <Losha> histo: more to the point, I wouldn't expect a *server* installation to go into power saving mode...
[01:14] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: sudo reboot
[01:14] <Nooneshere> I am wiping my parition. i backed up home. Should i back up anything else?
[01:15] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I'll do that in min, hen report back
[01:15] <opop> testing
[01:16] <duclam> anyone using hp laptops with nVidia graphic card? and have problem with the display???
[01:18] <Losha> Nooneshere: I like to back up /etc also. It has most of the config files you might need to recreate the installation if you choose....
[01:18] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: Webcam works again!!!!
[01:18] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: maybe just needed reboot? freakin' magic?
[01:19] <Nooneshere> Thank you Losha
[01:19] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: Thank you!
[01:20] <saylar> hey guys.
[01:20] <dsnyders> saylar, and gals.  There may be gals here too.
[01:20] <saylar> I'm desperately looking for someone who can help me with an openvpn problem.
[01:20] <saylar> well, i doubt that, but hey gals. :P
[01:21] <saylar> i described my problem already here, maybe someone can have a look. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8941068#post8941068
[01:23] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: are oil to my senses, well, I gues you got a prob with the usb-receiver messing up the config at boot up, paste output of dmesg
[01:23] <dsnyders> saylar, At first glance it looks like your default gateway is duplicated.  Any traffic not local to your LAN is being sent out the VPN link.
[01:24] <saylar> dsnyders, do you have an idea what is causing this behaviour?
[01:24] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: I left the USB receiver in, just rebooted as is
[01:24] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: and also can remove the uneeded wget's and the failed easycam-stuff / ucvvideodir
[01:24] <dsnyders> saylar, My first glance may have been hasty, though.  Let me take a closer look at things.
[01:25] <saylar> that would be nice, thank you
[01:25] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: dmesg is of interest, and maybe syslog tells you which driver is used
[01:25] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: result of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393687/
[01:26] <Random831> (forgot my password and the system it's saved on crashed - i'll recover the hard drive, but no time now)
[01:27] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: looks all good now, usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[01:27] <Random832> nm got it
[01:27] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: GREAT! :-)
[01:27] <Random832> so anyway - grub completely fails on my new [used] laptop and I have no idea why
[01:27] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: Thank you very much for your help
[01:28] <Random832> I managed to get it working with - LILO of all things [and found some bugs in that] but was wondering if anyone could help me track down the underlying problem
[01:28] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: no prob, if you want some fun, try the sppedlink square cam (2 weeks, no way..)
[01:28] <Random832> also, do the kernel install scripts in apt support lilo (i.e. re-running liloconfig and lilo each time the kernel is upgraded)?
[01:28] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: sppedlink square cam? what's what?
[01:29] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: speedlink*, another brand/model
[01:29] <DavidJHeinrich> what would be nice is if cameras shipped oriented in portrait mode, and the software could display it that way! I am a person, I am a rectangle that is taller than I am fat! I do not need to be displayed in 4:3 or 3:2...I need 2:3 or 3:4!
[01:29] <DavidJHeinrich> DasEi: is it one that is a PITA?
[01:30] <DasEi> DavidJHeinrich: yes, it has a chip semms really exotic
[01:30] <Random832> DavidJHeinrich, have you considered rotating your camera 90 degrees to the left?
[01:30] <Random832> and anyway, portraits aren't the only thing a camera is good for
[01:31] <DavidJHeinrich> Random832: yea, it isn't designed to sit up that way...and then Skype just displays me sideways!
[01:32] <qiyong> how do I have auto mount media work?
[01:34] <DasEi> qiyong: you want /media/work to be mounted at boot-time ?
[01:34] <qiyong> DasEi, work at the time disk is inserted
[01:35] <jimlovell777> Possibly dumb question: When I authenticate to gksudo I don't have to again for the next ten minutes. What keeps a malicious piece of software that might have been installed by a user from trying to run as root every five minutes? Won't it eventually succeed? This isn't a concern of mine jne, just a thought I had.
[01:36] <DasEi> qiyong: which is mounted in /media/work , do : sudo chown -R $USER /media/work from your regualr user account
[01:37] <DasEi> jimlovell777: not really, as it's just your terminal, another tty will ask again, before that default 15 min, also can lower the time, if concerned (like away from desk)
[01:40] <DasEi> qiyong: I hope I understood your question right
[01:41] <dsnyders> saylar, yes, it looks like it would route anything from 0.0.0.0 to 126.255.255.255.255 out the tun0 interface, and anything else out of 192.168.2.1
[01:41] <brandon420> soo, i need help gaining access to a remote machine..... anyone up for the challenge?
[01:41] <dsnyders> saylar, have you had a look at http://www.adamsinfo.com/quick-linux-and-windows-openvpn-howto-and-tutorial-including-vpn-routing/
[01:41] <DasEi> brandon420: ssh ?
[01:42] <saylar> dsnyders, thank you. i will have a look at what it says.
[01:43] <dsnyders> saylar, Is the linux box acting as a vpn client or server?
[01:43] <mikejf> Does anyone know how to make a cups server print to another cups server?
[01:43] <saylar> as a client
[01:43] <saylar> client for vpn, server for ssh and samba
[01:44] <dsnyders> saylar, do you want it to act as a gateway for your 192 network to access the 10 network?
[01:44] <Extend> how can i create a .gz file of a directory using gzip
[01:46] <DasEi> Extend: gzip -r /some/dir   , see man gzip
[01:46] <xenaxon> Hello, I'm a windows user trying linux for the first time, what do you recommend: Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:46] <DSGandalf> how can I set the screen resolution above 800x600?
[01:46] <saylar> i want to achieve the following. Computer A shall act as ssh and samba server in my LAN, 192.168.X.X. in addition, computer A shall connect to an vpn server.
[01:47] <gringochapin> xenaxon: I suggest Ubuntu, just because it seems to be a bit more popular, and so might be easier to find local support.
[01:47] <dotwaffle> I seem to be getting very slow disk speeds since upgrading to karmic - writing to disk is in the 7-11MB/s range, and reading dpkg database takes 5-10 seconds. Any ideas?
[01:47] <saylar> so i basically don't need any interaction between 192 and 10 dsnyders
[01:47] <DasEi> xenaxon: the core is same on xubu-kubu-ubu, that are just different surfaces/libs, ubuntu is most common, but can also-same sys, have kde and others besides on it, session-wide
[01:47] <gringochapin> xenaxon: but no reason not to try both.
[01:48] <saylar> i don't even know if that is possbile, possible that I'm just darn stupid ;)
[01:49] <Typos_King> Extend:     gzip -9 -r YOURFOLDER;    # iirc
[01:49] <Typos_King> Extend:     though you can also use 'zip -9 -r ...' just as well
[01:49] <Extend> Typos_King, thanks
[01:50] <DSGandalf> where can I find drivers for SiS Mirage 3 Graphics Card? I cannot fix the screen resolution above 800x600
[01:51] <Typos_King> Extend:     you might need to tar it firrst.... iirfc too, thus using tar instead
[01:52] <skraps> typos_King: whats the difference between tar.gz and gz or are they just as equivalent ? Iv never understood
[01:52] <ddrj> installing ubuntu on htpc, wat filesystem to use ?
[01:52] <Typos_King> Extend:     tar -czvf YOURFOLDERHERE;
[01:53] <nwidger> any here have a zotac ionitx-a-u motherboard?
[01:53] <renegaid> anyone know of a good usenet clients?
[01:53] <DasEi> DSGandalf: http://tinyurl.com/y9qwj5x
[01:53] <ddrj> renegaid
[01:53] <ddrj> sabnzbd
[01:53] <renegaid> that thing sucks man
[01:53] <ddrj> no way man
[01:53] <ddrj> best one
[01:53] <renegaid> is there nothing like newsleecher
[01:53] <Typos_King> skraps:    IIRC, gzip doesn't 'tar' or bundle, only compresses on a file-per-file basis, tar bundles but doesn't comprress, so a combo of both, produces a tarball with compression, hehe
[01:54] <DSGandalf> thanks a lot!
[01:54] <Typos_King> skraps:   which these days with zip/rar you can do in 1 step
[01:54] <Losha> renegaid: text or binaries?
[01:54] <renegaid> binaries
[01:54] <PiousMinion> Hi, I just burned a good copy of 9.10 (slow, verified, etc) and when I select the option to install, the slow strobing white ubuntu logo never goes away.  What should I do?
[01:55] <seanbrystone> How do I get Nautilus to open something in vim? the Open With context menus work for gvim, but not vim
[01:55] <PiousMinion> oh, and after a while the scroll lock and caps lock lights on the keyboard just flash over and over.
[01:55] <rahduke> for some reason my application minimize animation (zoom effect) minimizes stuff to my panel instead of my dock, does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about or how to fix it??
[01:56] <ddrj> does it matter what filesystem i use for ubuntu? i was just gonna use ext4
[01:56] <Typos_King> ddrj:    don't think so, I've used ext3/4
[01:56] <PiousMinion> ddrj: ext4 should be safe, but ext3 has been used longer and is somewhat 'safer'
[01:56] <ddrj> alright thanks
[01:56] <elmakaru_22> hi
[01:57] <blakkheim> ddrj: it depends on what it will be used for
[01:57] <blakkheim> ddrj: different filesystems have different dis/advantages
[01:57] <dsnyders> saylar, you need to do a route add -net command of some sort to get 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 to use tun0.
[01:57] <ddrj> it's just going to be used as a fileserver / torrent server + htpc to stream to my tv
[01:57] <DasEi> PiousMinion: so you get  a kernel panik there, test the cd on another comp if possible, then look into :
[01:57] <DasEi> !bootoptions
[01:57] <blakkheim> ddrj: you might want to do some research on the different FS then
[01:57] <skraps> typos_king: i just tried it, I never knew that gzip wouldnt handle directories, I just tried and it failed i thought gzip was like zip or 7zip, learn something new every day.
[01:58] <trism> seanbrystone: right-click on the file type, properties, open with tab, add, custom command: gnome-terminal -x vim %x
[01:58] <elmakaru_22> i am looking for a tv online program
[01:58] <ddrj> damn
[01:58] <PiousMinion> DasEi: CD is fine, what boot options do you reccomend?
[01:58] <DasEi> PiousMinion: acpi or vga are often helpfull, but in the dark -- what kinda machine is it ?
[01:59] <PiousMinion> blakkheim: different FS are good for different things, but most of the time(especially for ubuntu users) extN is best.
[01:59] <elmakaru_22> can you tell me a tv online program
[01:59] <elmakaru_22> or radio
[01:59] <PiousMinion> DasEi: dell laptop, pentium 4 based, 17" wide, radon x300, 1gb of ram. anything else?
[02:00] <dsnyders> elmakaru_22, you could go to hulu.com if you are in the US.
[02:00] <elmakaru_22> i am in europe
[02:00] <PiousMinion> elmakaru_22: pandor.com
[02:00] <PiousMinion> elmakaru_22: pandora.com  *
[02:00] <DasEi> PiousMinion: sounds common, acpi=off , could be older bios, maybe reset bios to defaults
[02:00] <elmakaru_22> thanks
[02:00] <dsnyders> elmakaru_22, for radio, you should check out live365.com
[02:00] <seanbrystone> trism, Yay! That did it thanks! Ive been asking that all day. :)
[02:00] <nwidger> so i created a usb startup disk using the utility in the system menu, plug it into my computer, ensure that boot off usb is enabled and try to boot off of it but nothing happens, the computer just sits there with a black screen.  so i burn the image to a dvd and plug in my external dvd drive and try to boot off that and get the same problem.  anyone have any idea what i might be doing wrong?
[02:01] <Typos_King> elmakaru_22:      www.shoutcast.com   bunches of streamed mp3 stations :)
[02:01] <PiousMinion> nwidger: the utility failed ?
[02:01] <DasEi> nwidger: verified download ? burned cd image to a dvd ?
[02:01] <DasEi> !md5sum
[02:01] <nwidger> nwidger: except i put the dvd in another computer and it booted off it just fine.
[02:02] <earthen> nwidger, I did that also but i found that on some systems you have to wait for an extremely long time for it to boot
[02:02] <nwidger> earthen: hmm okay ill try waiting i suppose
[02:02] <earthen> nwidger, I tried one one computer and the screen went blank for what seemed like 5 min
[02:04] <manualoverride> hey does anyone know how to connect a linksys wireless wusb600N on ubuntu 9.10
[02:05] <PiousMinion> manualoverride: if there is no native driver, ndiswrapper my work, if not then you're screwed. buy better supported hardware.
[02:05] <meatbun> is there an app to convert a string to hex? what is value of Ⓚ in hex?
[02:05] <renegaid> installed sandnxb from the repo. don't know where it installed to because i don't see it anywhere
[02:06] <serverduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426406
[02:06] <PiousMinion> Guest36910: irc as root is dangerous.
[02:06] <serverduck> No one knows the answer to my question?
[02:06] <serverduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426406
[02:06] <serverduck> What am I supposed to do then...change to another distribution?
[02:07] <blakkheim> serverduck: no need to spam your link
[02:07] <serverduck> blakkheim, sorry !
[02:08] <PiousMinion> serverduck: have you bothered to check any logs?
[02:08] <serverduck> blakkheim, but what should I do then?
[02:08]  * Typos_King dashes
[02:08] <serverduck> PiousMinion, I;m a beginner user ...typed plog in the terminal and as in the post i got that strange message.
[02:09] <serverduck> PiousMinion, serial link appears to be disconnected/connection terminated.modem hangup(i don't have a modem, i connect through lan...why is that appearing)?
[02:10] <serverduck> No one seems to know the answer and i have to keep on sudo pppoeconf, every 2 minutes which is absurd.
[02:10] <PiousMinion> serverduck: It looks at ppp like a modem. think of it as a virtual modem.
[02:10] <lullabud> serverduck: have you checked the logfiles?
[02:10] <serverduck> lullabud, I don't know how sir.
[02:10] <serverduck> PiousMinion, thanks for the answer.
[02:10] <mikejf> So no one knows how to make a cups server print to another cups server?
[02:11] <sqwertle> Could anyone tell me how I can boot ubuntu in low graphics mode?
[02:11] <elmakaru_22> can anybody tell me  a program to watch tv online plss
[02:12] <lullabud> serverduck: there's a tool in system -> administration -> log file viewer
[02:12] <niedalry> I have a problem with Firefox and Seamonkey not displaying web pages correctly in Ubuntu is this a common or known problem? Everything displays correctly in other browsers.
[02:12] <sqwertle> Or a possible way to access the kernel without ever booting into graphical mode?
[02:12] <serverduck> lullabud, ok, I will check it now. Thanks!
[02:12] <lullabud> sqwertle: you can boot to single user mode by pausing the boot and adding "single" at the end of the boot string
[02:12] <qayos> I'm having some troubles, wondering if anyone could help.  I had 9.10 installed, then installed 8.04LTS on another partition (using same /home, but different /).  The burn was bad, and now I cannot boot to anything.  Can anyone help me get my 9.10 install back?
[02:13] <serverduck> lullabud, and what file exactly do i need to check?
[02:13] <qayos> I think the problem is that 9.10 uses GRUB2, not 1
[02:13] <serverduck> lullabud, syslog?
[02:13] <lullabud> serverduck: i'm not exactly sure.  a good way to find out is to browse the logs where the timestamp is about when you got disconnected...
[02:13] <lullabud> serverduck: syslog is a great place to start, but ppp might have its own log.
[02:14] <lullabud> serverduck: also, there may be a way to start ppp in a verbose mode that will log all sorts of stuff
[02:14] <sqwertle> lullabud:  The problem I'm having is preventing me from doing that :(
[02:14] <serverduck> lullabud, well your answer is exactly what i've got in terminal....i disconnect every 2 -3 minutes , sometimes 1,5...1
[02:14] <lullabud> sqwertle: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and set your default to single
[02:15] <serverduck> lullabud, that's what i see in the logs
[02:15] <gloom> hi there!
[02:15] <faron> Oh nooooo !!!....Help !!!! PLEASE !!!!!.......was checking out screensaver preferences on my Xubuntu {8.04 in case} & pressed "preview".Hmmmmmm.Well,that may have been a mistake because now I can't seem to get rid of it.I 've used the ol' "alt-tab" to be able to pull up this window so's I could talk to you's all.I can't even go to my desktop the way this is.Not even by clicking on the "hide wins & show desk" button on panel.Anybody 
[02:15] <lullabud> serverduck: if you enable a verbose mode in ppp it should log all sorts of additional things like handshakes and stuff.
[02:15] <serverduck> lullabud, how do i do that?
[02:15] <cell> can anyone help me pls
[02:15] <lullabud> faron: what happens when you hit ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:16] <serverduck> cell, ask your question!
[02:16] <cell> can anyone help me pls
[02:16] <Losha> qayos: you can boot 9.10 from grub1 and 8.04 from grub2 if need be. Do you know what went wrong with your 8.04 install?
[02:16] <faron> lullabud...I will try
[02:16] <lullabud> serverduck: i'm not sure, it's been a long time since i've dealt with that.  try `man ppp` to see if there's a verbose mode
[02:16] <gloom> I think I'm going to ask a dummy question, but: is it possible to restart the X server programtically from an X application?
[02:16] <serverduck> lullabud, thanks
[02:16] <lullabud> gloom: yes
[02:16] <qayos> Losha - I'm not sure at what point it went bad, bit it said there were errors on the DVD.
[02:16] <faron> do you mean ctrl alt del ??
[02:17] <cell> serverduck;when i download and install a package using the command line after i cant see the programs
[02:17] <serverduck> lullabud,   no manuall entry for man ppp
[02:17] <renegaid> to start sabnzb on other platforms you just click an icon but on ubuntu you use a command line. weird
[02:17] <lullabud> faron: no, that would trigger a restart.  ctrl-alt-backspace is often tied to an X restart
[02:17] <faron> ctrl alt bkspc should restart me huh ?
[02:17] <Losha> qayos: Do you have a good live install cd for 9.10?
[02:17] <serverduck> lullabud, for ppp, sorry:)
[02:17] <cell> serverduck; how do i get to see the programs
[02:17] <faron> you certain you don't have that backwards ?
[02:17] <qayos> I cannot find it at the moment, heh.  This one for 8.04LTS seems to work for now though...
[02:18] <gloom> lullabud, really? How? I guess that if from the code I kill the X process, it will kill the X app as well because it has been launched from the X environment, so the next instruction which will be to start the X server again would never get to be run....
[02:18] <qayos> I am on 8.04 livecd currently
[02:18] <serverduck> cell, ask here, your questios, right now I can't answer because i'm a beginner aswell! :)
[02:18] <cell> serverduck;ok
[02:18] <lullabud> !ask
[02:18] <cell> pls who can help me here pls
[02:19] <Losha> qayos: if you can boot the 8.04 livecd, you can do a grub restore. Let me find a link for you...
[02:19] <qayos> Losha: I can burn one and come back when I have it if necessary.
[02:19] <cell> when i download and install a package using the command line after i cant see the programs
[02:19] <Losha> !grub | qayos
[02:19] <lullabud> serverduck: i'm not sure what man page to check... whatever your pppoe daemon is, that's the manual you wan tto read.
[02:19] <cell> how do i get to see the programs
[02:19] <qayos> Losha: ok, i tried following one, and i got to the step that said to do a find, and i got an error, the instructions said nothing about what to do on error
[02:19] <gloom> cell, which program are you installing, how are you installing it, and where you don't see it?
[02:19] <serverduck> lullabud, you have any ideea who can help me get this issue fixed?who knows about pppoe under ubuntu?
[02:20] <Losha> qayos: erm, if your 9.10 release uses ext4 (the default) you won't be able to see if from 8.04 and you'll need to do the grub restore using the 9.10 livecd...
[02:21] <cell> gloom;i first tried antivirus with pack name clamav then also i tried pack name libyahoo2-10
[02:21] <qayos> I set it to ext3
[02:21] <lullabud> serverduck: who, i do not know.  pppoe is pretty esoteric these days...
[02:21] <lullabud> serverduck: have you tried plog -r ?  that should auto-restart if it's dropped.
[02:21] <cell> gloom;that too i didnt see anything
[02:21] <qayos> Losha: All my partitions are NTFS or Ext3 (or swap)
[02:21] <lullabud> serverduck: definitely check `man plog` if you haven't yet.
[02:22] <serverduck> lullabud, esoteric as in outdated?:D ook thanks!
[02:22] <gloom> cell, are you installing from the repositories?
[02:22] <jeeez> hi, i'm trying to configure mpd, but the log shows: 'can't find alsa mixer control "PCM"' how do i fix this?
[02:22] <serverduck> lullabud,  is just that i read a lot but can't get this issue fixed.
[02:22] <Losha> qayos: ok, can you open a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l' (that's lower case L) and paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:22] <gloom> cell, or downloading the package from a website?
[02:22] <cell> gloom;i am using the command line
[02:22] <lullabud> serverduck: no, not deprecated, esoteric as in not many people use it.
[02:23] <iicsa> anyone used xvidcap before? I'm looking for the keyboard shortcut to pause... google has not helped me find it.
[02:23] <gloom> gloom, I know that. But are you using the repositories?
[02:23] <gloom> heheh, I talk to myself
[02:23] <serverduck> lullabud,  ok
[02:23] <qayos> Losha: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FyXUHRiV
[02:23] <gloom> that was for you, CELL
[02:23] <cell> gloom;so how do i see them???
[02:24] <lullabud> serverduck: looks like pppd has a "debug" option that will show you tons of options.
[02:24] <cell> gloom;they tell me its done installing
[02:24] <sqwertle> Is anyone here familiar with the process of modifying (actually replacing) the kernel before making the boot disk?
[02:24] <lullabud> serverduck: er, not tons of options, tons of debug info...
[02:24] <gloom> cell, man, answer my question. Are you using the repositories??? Are you downloading the package from the internet? What are you doing? If you don't tell what exactly are you doing no one could help you
[02:24] <serverduck> lullabud,  how can i see the debug info?
[02:24] <cell> gloom; yes
[02:24] <serverduck> lullabud, pppd in the terminal?
[02:24] <qayos> sda1 - WinXP, sda2 - Ubuntu9.10 / (all but /home), sda3 swap, sda5 - /home, sda6 - failed Ubuntu8.04 install of / (all but /home)
[02:24] <lullabud> serverduck: if you start the pppd from a terminal it will probably spit out into the terminal
[02:25] <serverduck> lullabud,  i have to sudo su?
[02:25] <serverduck> lullabud,  it sais permission denied
[02:25] <lullabud> serverduck: not sure.  try it without sudo, then with.
[02:25] <cell> gloom;repositories
[02:25] <cell> gloom;from the internet
[02:26] <Losha> qayos: agreed, I see ntfs on /dev/sda1 (is that a windows install?) and ext3 on /dev/sda2, 5 and 6.
[02:26] <gloom> cell hahahha. ok. So you are using apt-get?
[02:26] <serverduck> lullabud,  with no sudo su...doesn't work...with sudo su...i get some funny looking fonts.
[02:26] <cell> gloom;yes
[02:26] <serverduck> lullabud, }}}}}}#}#}{4'""""}{}{&^%&
[02:27] <Blackcamaro8> In the process of a wubi install, the EXE from the disc is claiming "No Permission" to install the last step. The LOG claims to have to download an ISO.
[02:27] <serverduck> lullabud,  that's what i'm getting in the terminal.
[02:27] <Random832> is the "design capacity" in the power info for the battery a reliable statement about what the battery was actually intended by the manufacturer to hold when it was new?
[02:27] <sqwertle> Could anyone help explain how to do this process by copying the files to an iso before making a boot disk rather than using terminal? http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+intel+arrandale+intel+graphics+media+accelerator+hd+with+ubuntu+9.10
[02:27] <qayos> Losha: yep... sda1 = WinXP... sda2=9.10 (/)... sda3=swap... sda5=(/home for both 9.10 and 8.04)... sda6=failed 8.04 (/) install
[02:27] <lullabud> serverduck: lame... looks like there might be some info logged into the syslog with that option too.  fyi, i'm getting this all from here: http://linux.die.net/man/8/pppd
[02:27] <Losha> qayos: because your 8.04 is in an unknown state, I think you'd better boot 9.10 and do a grub recovery from there....
[02:27] <gloom> cell, ok. I guess there will be a reason why you can't use synaptic. Do you have X?
[02:27] <Random832> because this says 349 mAh
[02:27] <cell> gloom;i am a beginner
[02:27] <Losha> qayos: because there's no guarantee your 8.04 is bootable if the install went wrong...
[02:27] <qayos> Losha: I don't need the 8.04 at all anymore, we can just delete it.
[02:28] <cell> gloom;i dont know if i have it
[02:28] <gloom> cell, np. Do you have graphical environment?
[02:28] <qayos> (turns out I need 9.04, but I'll handle that later ><)
[02:28] <stsfanatic> :)
[02:28] <gloom> cell, gnome? kde? xfce?
[02:28] <cell> gloom;gnome
[02:28] <Losha> qayos: just ignore it for now, nothing to be gained by going around deleting partitions at this point. You need to boot 9.10 live cd
[02:28] <serverduck> lullabud,  that's for the link
[02:28] <cell> gloom;and kde
[02:28] <gloom> cell, great. And have you tried to install the package from Synaptic?
[02:29] <Hathadar> Is it possible to modify /etc/sudoers to not require a specific user to use sudo for a specific command?
[02:29] <Losha> !grub2
[02:29] <cell> gloom;no
[02:29] <qayos> Losha: Don't currently have a 9.10 livecd, will burn one and come back (I have another computer).
[02:29] <cell> gloom;i use the command line always
[02:29] <nanomachine> how can ubuntu be installed from a usb drive
[02:29] <ppaulhus> hey. just used xrandr to add a custom resolution of 1366x768 to my display... but for some reason the modeline that it returns actually says 1368x768. Is that normal?
[02:30] <Losha> qayos: ok, in case I'm not here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[02:30] <qayos> Losha: ok, thanks :)
[02:30] <Losha> qayos: best of luck :-)
[02:30] <masu3701> how can i save a channel under freenode in xchat
[02:30] <earthen> nanomachine, you mean you have it installed on a usb drive and you want to use that to install to another computer?
[02:30] <lullabud> serverduck: do you know what kind of server you're connecting to?  is this your home ISP, a school, or what?
[02:31] <lullabud> masu3701: that would be a good question for #xchat
[02:31] <serverduck> lullabud,  I connect through a lan cable to my home Isp
[02:31] <desnaike> gloom clamav is command line app u need the clamtk frontend if u need a gui
[02:32] <lullabud> serverduck: ok, so it's probable that this isn't a server config problem.  that's good to know.
[02:32] <Losha> masu3701: I've never tried it, but Window->Save text. You do know this channel is archived at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010 ?
[02:32] <gloom> desnaike, cell, yeah, I was just installing it and there's no gui by default
[02:32] <gloom> cell, that's why you can't see it in the program list
[02:33] <nanomachine> earthen, correct
[02:33] <cell> gloom;so wat do we do now ???
[02:33] <serverduck> lullabud,  the connection worked fine before...let's say 1 week..
[02:33] <nanomachine> !usb install
[02:33] <gloom> install the package camtk, which is a gtk GUI for the command line clamav
[02:33] <masu3701> Losha: thats cool...i didnt know that
[02:33] <lullabud> serverduck: honestly, that *could* be a server side problem...
[02:33] <Ngoc_tiensinh> 2222222
[02:33] <cell> gloom,how do i get the gui???
[02:33] <Ngoc_tiensinh> hello
[02:33] <Ngoc_tiensinh> i from vietnamese
[02:33] <serverduck> lullabud, how could that be if i run a machine windows on the same line?and internet works there?
[02:34] <Losha> !vn
[02:34] <lullabud> serverduck: that's good information to know too.
[02:34] <gloom> cell, sorry, clamtk
[02:34] <dante123> I think someone is piggy backing on my network, how can I check to see the ip addresses of all of the computers on my network
[02:34] <lullabud> serverduck: it's still possible, but not probable.  if you're not using the same software you will not get the same results.  just look at web standards.
[02:35] <lullabud> serverduck: it does seem like a client thing... i just don't know what.
[02:35] <Losha> dante123: it's wireless, presumably?
[02:35] <cell> gloom,should i try clamtk???
[02:35] <gloom> lullabud, you killed me with that answer. Can you elaborate, please?
[02:35] <desnaike> dante123 try etherape
[02:35] <serverduck> lullabud,  i think the problem is with ubuntu for shure.
[02:35] <lullabud> cell: do you always type three question marks???  :P
[02:35] <cell> gloom.yes
[02:35] <lullabud> gloom: ...which answer?
[02:35] <cell> gloom,should i try clamtk???
[02:35] <Losha> lullabud: what's wrong with that???
[02:35] <Slyboots> Hm, having some trouble installing Ubuntu 9.10 to a Md/LVM RAID array
[02:35] <gloom> cell, yes. Clamtk is a front-end for the clamav . As desnaike told you clamav is just a command line app
[02:36] <lullabud> lol
[02:36] <Slyboots> when its trying to unpack and install linux-server (kernel) it fails..
[02:36] <lullabud> Losha: Nothing!!! I guess???
[02:36] <serverduck> lullabud, if in windows i get 5 days uptime no disconnects,when my ubuntu machine is getting disconnects the win one is working perfect...can downoald can browse
[02:36] <cell> gloom.ok
[02:36] <dante123> yes, wireless.  I see a computer on my network that is not mine....I can put encryption back on....but not tonight.  In meantime want to see who it is
[02:36] <cell> gloom.i try it now
[02:36] <SirLinux> Hello :Pp
[02:36] <serverduck> lullabud, in windows i get no disconnects only when i turn on my pc:P
[02:36] <Losha> lullabud: :-) :-) :-). It does make one sound a bit like Karen Walker...
[02:36] <ngocmaster06sk_> hello all friend
[02:37] <dante123> okay will try etherape /des
[02:37] <lixujia> \ping
[02:37] <lullabud> serverduck: i'm just saying that things will work differently between windows and linux, differently on both sides.  don't worry about it, it's probably not a server side thing...
[02:37]  * Ganymede mirrors lixujia's \
[02:37] <cell> gloom.it says Setting up clamtk (4.08-1)
[02:38] <serverduck> lullabud,  i know linux !=windows...
[02:38] <Slyboots> Quite a few errors..
[02:39] <serverduck> lullabud,  but i'm surprised how I can't fix this issue yet? i;m the only person using pppoe in ubuntu in the world?>:)
[02:39] <Slyboots> "mkinitramfs: workaround is MODULESmost
[02:39] <lullabud> serverduck: well, i'm sorry i can't be more helpful with your pppoe troubleshooting.  it's been like 5+ years since i've had to deal with that
[02:39] <Slyboots> "Failed to create initrd image"
[02:39] <serverduck> lullabud,  don't have to be sorry
[02:39] <lullabud> serverduck: haha, you never know!  pppoe is very uncommon.
[02:39] <PiousMinion> linux != ubuntu, but ubuntu tries so hard to emulate the wimp desktop. :P
[02:39] <Slyboots> dpkg: errror processing linux-image-2.6.31-20-server--configure
[02:39] <serverduck> lullabud,  you are not paid to do this, I admire you very much for doing this.
[02:39] <dante123> downloaded etherape but it says no suitable devices found?
[02:39] <serverduck> lullabud, and thanks for everything
[02:39] <Slyboots> wtf does that mean o.O
[02:40] <Johnny1> My sound isn't working at all. I currently have esound installed, ubuntu 9.10 won't play any sound, except whenever I shutdown the computer, it makes this beep sound. Please help me!
[02:40] <cell> gloom,so wat about the libyahoo2-10 package
[02:40] <lullabud> serverduck: i gotta scoot, good luck
[02:40] <serverduck> PiousMinion, and what you'll really cal linux, slackware?
 etherape says no suitable devices
[02:40] <sixofour> what is a good skype appn for linux?
[02:40] <serverduck> lullabud, you too! :)
[02:40] <gloom> cell, do you have GUI already?
[02:40] <Ganymede> sixofour, skype itself is available for linux
[02:40] <sixofour> oh?..thanks
[02:40] <Losha> sixofour: er, skype....
[02:40] <cell> gloom,no
[02:40] <Ganymede> sixofour, and i don't think there are any alternatives because skype is a closed protocol
[02:40] <PiousMinion> serverduck: I dislike slackware for different reasons.
[02:41] <Slyboots> So.. um.. right
[02:41] <sixofour> linux has some tools for making skype applications
[02:41] <sixofour> so i guessed there was an open variant
[02:41] <Slyboots> mkinitramfs: missing md root /dev/mapper/Root-Root ys entry
[02:41] <serverduck> PiousMinion, but the saying is"if you know slackware you know linux" :)
[02:41] <Slyboots> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.3.20-server
[02:41] <cell> gloom,how do i get the GUI
[02:41] <Slyboots> failed to create initramfs image.
[02:41] <Slyboots> o.o
[02:41] <desnaike> danta123 under capture in tyhe menu choose ur wireless device
[02:42] <Losha> serverduck: yes, but it's a long, slow, hard uphill climb....
[02:42] <gloom> cell, :D ok, one thing at a time. Have you installed clamtk right? If you can't see any icon in the applications list, try running clamtk from a terminal
[02:42] <PiousMinion> serverduck: I said I dislike slackware, I didn't say I didn't know it.  After all, yo uhave to know something well to really know you don't like it. :P
[02:42] <serverduck> PiousMinion, true!
[02:43] <Losha> Slyboots: either your install CD is faulty, or your raid is faulty. Pray it's the former. Did it pass the self test?
[02:43] <Slyboots> Its a Net install
[02:43] <desnaike> dante123 did u start etherape from terminal using sudo
[02:44] <Losha> Slyboots: bad news. You need expert raid help. Beyond me, I'm afraid...
[02:44] <Slyboots> I just created the array
[02:44] <karma_police> is there a channel for lucid?
[02:44] <Losha> !lucid | karma_police
[02:44] <karma_police> ty
[02:44] <gurugeek> i forgot the site where i can paste my config and share it with others... anyone?
[02:44] <Emzzzz> http://imggmi.info/DSC-1268361504.jpg/ do my tits look big?
[02:45] <cell> gloom,i have done the clamtk
[02:45] <Losha> gurugeek: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:45] <cell> gloom,i have the virus scanner now
[02:45] <gloom> cell, good
[02:45] <gurugeek> Losha: thanks
[02:46] <cell> gloom,so can we now go on to the GUI
[02:46] <Slyboots> I cant even run any commands
[02:46] <Slyboots> Since I dont seem to be inside the linux "system" just the install enviroment
[02:46] <gloom> cell, now about the libyahoo, that's not an app. That's just a library. Packages that contain libraries just install the library in its place, but you won't see any program icon for it.
[02:47] <gloom> cell, you just told me that you have the GUI?!?! or not?
[02:47] <gloom> :D
[02:47] <Slyboots> Ahd mdstat shows the 3 raid arrays are fine
[02:47] <Losha> Slyboots: luckily you've lost no data if you've just made the array. Try a more stable distro e.g. 8.04?
[02:48] <cell> gloom,no i dont have the GUI
[02:48] <Slyboots> Oh for gods sake, just spend 3 bloody hours on this
[02:48] <Slyboots> And it waits for the last bloody step before going "Oh yea.. wait somethings screwed."
[02:48] <gloom> cell, what do you see when you run clamtk from the command line? Do you see a window?
[02:48] <desnaike> cell it's under applications/accessories/virus scanner
[02:49] <Losha> Slyboots: sorry, but I wouldn't run 9.10 on a mission critical server. It's just not mature enough...
[02:49] <Slyboots> Yea, it wont even install
[02:49] <moszer> hello everyone, can anyone help me configuring pcsx please
[02:49] <cell> gloom,yes i see it at applications/system tools/virus scanner
[02:49] <gloom> cell, that's the GUI!
[02:49] <gloom> cell, problem solved!
[02:50] <cell> gloom,so wat about the libyahoo
[02:50] <moszer> anyone familiar with pcsx?
[02:51] <Slyboots> Well to be honest I dont really fancy downloading another 700mb and wasting 3 hours only for that to perhaps go "oh yea somethigs not right, *splat*"
[02:51] <gloom> cell, now about the libyahoo, that's not an app. That's just a library. Packages that contain libraries just install the library in its place, but you won't see any program icon for it.
[02:51] <cell> gloom,try and see if you can get the right package on yahoo messenger from sudo apt-cache search messenger
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> moszer:  if you mean the playstatnion emulator.. yes ive had it working.. but that was about 5 mo ago.
[02:51] <gloom> cell, man, would you please fire the synaptic and try from there?
[02:51] <gloom> cell the pacage search function is much better
[02:52] <moszer> Dr, did you tried it before?
[02:52] <Losha> moszer: see also the fora at http://forums.ngemu.com/
[02:52] <cell> gloom,how i do know the right pack from the library stuff tell me the difference pls
[02:53] <moszer> Losha, are you using it?
[02:53] <desnaike> cell why are you installing libyahoo
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> moszer:  if you mean the playstatnion emulator.. yes ive had it working.. about 5 mo ago. and ive used it on  and off for years
[02:53] <Losha> moszer: no, just googled it for you
[02:53] <gloom> cell, well for starters, libyahoo package says:"Yahoo messenger protocol C library" in the package description!!!!!! That's pretty clear to me
[02:55] <Losha> Slyboots: I don't know of an OS where that's *guaranteed* not to happen. Even w*dows users have install problems...
[02:55] <cell> gloom,which one should i install so i get the yahoo messenger on my pc???
[02:55] <gloom> cell, now I can't see any package specific for yahoo messenger. But other generic messengers like pidgin or kopete should support yahoo messenger connections
[02:55] <cell> gloom,which pack
[02:55] <Slyboots> Key seems to be this.. mkintframfs: missing md root /dev/mapper/Root-Root (something?) ys entry
[02:55] <moszer> Thanks Losha, Dr_Willis, then i need your guide, i'm trying to find the BIOS for it,ive tried google it, seems that i cant find it, if its ok with you, i would like you to teach me a 'stepbystep' procedure..
[02:56] <qayos> Slyboots: don't delete the file you downloaded until you successfully install, and do an md5sum on it before you try to burn it
[02:56] <gloom> cell, isntall the package pidgin. This will support yahoo connections
[02:56] <cell> gloom,i need yahoo messenger specifically
[02:56] <Slyboots> mkinitfs woarkaround is MODULES=most
[02:56] <cell> gloom,thats why
[02:56] <moszer> *im a newbies
[02:56] <Slyboots> mkinitramfs: Error please report the bug
[02:56] <desnaike> cell pidgen with gnome gui is great and uses libyahoo.so
[02:56] <gloom> cell, install pidgin
[02:57] <Losha> Slyboots: less chance of that happening with 8.04, but no guarantees. You could always ask for your money back...
[02:57] <blakkheim> or use finch, better than pidgin in my opinion
[02:57]  * Slyboots rolls his eyes.. YEa
[02:57] <faron> u still there lullabud ? just in case you ever run across that question again [or anybody else] do this...in a terminal "killall -u [username] screensaver preview"...the terminal said "no process killed" BUT...IT LIED ! {ha ha}
[02:57] <Slyboots> Just annoyed, waste of time.
[02:57] <Losha> Slyboots: understood...
[02:58] <Slyboots> I dont see much point trying a older version if this "bug" is going to exist
[02:58] <owner> How do I compile a debian file from source code?
[02:58] <serverducky> what is the command to see what wireless card i have>
[02:58] <blakkheim> owner: checkinstall
[02:58] <blakkheim> serverducky: lspci
[02:58] <serverducky> blakkheim, thanks
[02:59] <chili555> serverducky, lspci if its internal and lsusb -v if its a dongle
[02:59] <owner> blakkheim so I go into the directory of the source code and type checkinstall?
[02:59] <moszer> Dr, please
[02:59] <blakkheim> owner: you "make" it like normal, but then run sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install
[02:59] <serverducky> chili555, :)
[02:59] <cell> gloom,do you have any interesting program i can use on my ubuntu???
[02:59] <owner> ah I'll try that right now
[03:00] <gloom> cell, just browse the repositories, or google it. there are thousands man.
[03:00] <Losha> Slyboots: the point about 8.04, which is a long term support release, is that it's all bugfixes and no new features. It's your best bet for stability. But no guarantees, sorry...
[03:00] <Slyboots> Bugger.
[03:00] <Slyboots> well sod it Im going to bed
[03:00] <chili555> serverducky, do you need help with it?
[03:00] <cell> gloom,ok thanks
[03:01] <gloom> cell, np
[03:01] <serverducky> chili555, my ubuntu has detected it..i hope it works
[03:01] <Losha> Slyboots: start an 8.04 download before you go...
[03:01] <Slyboots> Could have been playing Battlefield 2..
[03:02] <syam_> can any body help me..
[03:02] <syam_> i have problem with mailman...
[03:02] <syam_> i want mailman integrate with virtual user postfix
[03:03] <owner> what do you change the architecture to from i386 to get it to install on 64 bit or is there a way to make it install on any system.
[03:03] <gloom> gonna ask again:( IS there any way of restart the X server programatically from a X application?
[03:03] <owner> The code does work on any system
[03:04] <owner> @ blakkehim
[03:04] <Losha> syam_: I know nothing about mailman. Have you tried the searchable mailing list archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ ?
[03:04] <serverduck> Is it normal when i installed my wireless card, that my ubuntu freezes>?
[03:04] <serverduck> I had to manually restart it from the button.
[03:04] <owner> I mean @ blakkheim
[03:04] <chili555> serverduck, hardly
[03:04] <brandon420> who in here knows how to use ssh?
[03:04] <Slyboots> Wow, and its logged
[03:04] <Slyboots> ... A year ago
[03:05] <serverduck> chili555, the driver works fine but it freazed after installing
[03:05] <Slyboots> and hasnt been looked at :P
[03:05] <serverduck> chili555, strange...
[03:05] <Slyboots> So, yea a older version is not going to work
[03:05] <syam_> Losha_: thanks.. i will try
[03:05] <chili555> serverduck, maybe there is a driver conflict. what driver is it?
[03:05] <Losha> Slyboots: sorry. What are you gonna do next?
[03:05] <Slyboots> Mm..
[03:05] <Slyboots> Dont know, cry a bit
[03:05] <Slyboots> Waste another 3-4 hours
[03:05] <Losha> !ask | brand0n
[03:06] <Slyboots> Go to bed :P
[03:06] <serverduck> chili555, well i had to wireless drivers there...installed the 2nd one and the first one was a firmware tool extracter or something like that...
[03:06] <Error404NotFound> i am trying to configure psad with shorewall. Psad does detect port scans but when i do a iptables -nvL and grep any port-scanner's IP, i don't see anything.
[03:06] <Losha> Slyboots: try a different distro?
[03:06] <Slyboots> Debian I suppose
[03:06] <serverduck> chili555, for brodcom...maybe that's why
[03:06] <chili555> serverduck, a broadcom, i expect
[03:06] <Slyboots> Dont really like it as much as ubuntu :P
[03:06] <ddrj> hey
[03:07] <serverduck> chili555, when i click now  hardware drivers that firmware extractor doesn't show
[03:07] <ddrj> can i install ubuntu 9.10 desktop from a usb drive?
[03:07] <serverduck> chili555, but the driver works fine.
[03:07] <jolaren> Does anyone know of a dvb-t card with cam module that works via kernel in ubutnu?
[03:07] <ddrj> downloaded this ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso and i was wondering if i can extract to usb drive and install the OS from there
[03:07] <chili555> serverduck, did you try and fail something else first? ndiswrapper, maybe?
[03:07] <serverduck> chili555, maybe that's why...no
[03:07] <Slyboots> Screw it, Im off to bed
[03:07] <shankerjs> anyone know how to flash the Samsung Moment? i just got it 2 days ago.
[03:07] <Slyboots> Cheers Losha
[03:07] <Losha> Slyboots: cheers...
[03:08] <owner> blakkheim can you please tell me if you will in the control file in the source code it says that the Architecture is i386 but I know it will install on anything 32 or 64 bit. what do I change that to please?
[03:08] <chili555> serverduck, i dont understand. it works fine or it freezes??
[03:08] <serverduck> chili555, it works fine...:)
[03:08] <TxPitou> evening to all
[03:08] <maco> owner: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Architecture
[03:09] <ajnewbold> anyone know how I can launch something from the terminal that lets me view/select available wifi connections?
[03:09] <serverduck> chili555, but after installing it there was another broadcom thing there in hardware drivers
[03:09] <chili555> serverduck, great! welcome to the Ubuntu party!
[03:09] <ajnewbold> I deleted my panel and I'm kind of stuck heh
[03:09] <serverduck> chili555,  and i thought if ubuntu points me to that let's install that too
[03:09] <owner> thanks
[03:09] <serverduck> chili555, tried to do that and it freezed
[03:09] <serverduck> chili555, restarted and it wasn't there anymore
[03:10] <chili555> serverduck, there are two ways to get some wireless cards going and it wont want both
[03:10] <serverduck> chili555, i read something about firmware extractor tool
[03:10] <gloom> ajnewbold, iwlist wlan0 scan       replace wlan0 for your wlan decive
[03:10] <ajnewbold> gloom: thanks!
[03:10] <serverduck> chili555, who knows what was it:P
[03:10] <serverduck> chili555, i have another problem with my pppoe
[03:11] <chili555> serverduck, yes broadcoms want firmware. if its working well then you have all you need
[03:11] <serverduck> chili555, that's the only thing i need to solve
[03:11] <chili555> serverduck, i know little about pppoe, but lets try
[03:11] <serverduck> chili555, can i pm you?
[03:11] <serverduck> chili555,  i found a link with the same problem
[03:11] <chili555> serverduck, sure nuff
[03:12] <Losha> syam_ just offered me syam.png (383 bytes). He's compromised, right?
[03:12] <gloom> ajnewbold, if you have gnome, you can try nm-applet, and nm-connection-editor for a more fiendly GUI
[03:12] <rww> serverduck: For broadcom wifi, you need a driver component (sometimes bcmwl-kernel-source) and the firmware (installed during b43-fwcutter setup)
[03:13] <ddrj> got a q.. if i wanna install ubuntu from a usb drive, can i just extract the contents of ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso onto the usb drive and install from there?
[03:13] <ddrj> thanks in advance
[03:13] <rww> ddrj: What operating system are you using right now? Windows, OSX, Linux?
[03:13] <serverduck> rww, thanks, now it's working right:)
[03:13] <Losha> !usb | ddrj
[03:13] <ddrj> well target operating system won't have any OS on there
[03:13] <ddrj> completely black system
[03:13] <ddrj> shit i mean target pc
[03:13] <ddrj> :P
[03:13] <ddrj> and instead of black i mean blank
[03:13] <rww> ddrj: I know. You need to run a tool to prepare the USB stick, I need to know what you have available to run that tool :)
[03:14] <Fidoxd> Hi!
[03:14] <ddrj> ohhhh yes, windows :D
[03:14] <ajnewbold> gloom: nm-connection-editor comes up but nm-applet doesn't seem to want to launch unfortunately
[03:14] <ddrj> vista ;\\
[03:14] <ajnewbold> gloom: but I think I can muddle my way with the other commands you suggested, thanks :D
[03:14] <rww> ddrj: download unetbootin from http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ , run it as an administrator (right-click on the program and click the relevant option), point it at your USB stick and the ISO you downloaded).
[03:14] <ddrj> awesomeeeeee thanks :D
[03:16] <serverduck> Can someone please tell me why I get pppoe disconnects...in ubuntu and the same connection in ubuntu works like a charm?
[03:17] <serverduck> I made a topic on the beginners section but no answers no on knows...what should i do?
[03:17] <panopticon> serverduck, you can try to explain your problem again?
[03:18] <Losha> serverduck: presumably a pppoe client bug in ubuntu. Try googling to see if there's a workaround....
[03:18] <valley76> is it possibable to blow the read/write head on a cdrw/dvd+rw?
[03:19] <rww> funkyGit: bzr is better
[03:19] <saylar> still no one who could give me a hint regarding this really annoying vpn problem?
[03:19] <saylar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8941068
[03:19] <nwidger> i just followed the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Mac to create a bootable usb stick, but when i run 'hdiutil info /dev/disk1', the partition is shown as being not bootable.  shouldnt it be listed as being bootable or am missing something?
[03:20] <Losha> valley76: It's very high precision electronics, with very find tolerances for moving parts. You only get so many reads/writes before they fail. Some brands fail sooner than others. Does it report errors?
[03:20] <nwidger> here's the output from hdiutil: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/V3fpWW2T
[03:20] <valley76> Losha:right now it wont even mount
[03:21] <Losha> valley76: do you have a known good disk you can try in it? Also, power-cycle it to see if that helps...
[03:22] <rww> nwidger: I don't think it matters. Try it and find out :\
[03:22] <valley76> i have tried both nothing works
[03:22] <nwidger> rww: i did and it didnt work :\
[03:23] <thiagoBR> hey there guys
[03:23] <mikelifeguard> Is there a file I can add a bash alias to so it will be available for all users?
[03:23] <faron> WHAT [Or,how do I find out] do those  little icons represent that are found on the upper left hand corner of my windows ? One,for instance,is a tiny Firefox icon.Next to it,is what appears to be a very small circle within a very small square.I know it's a button of some sort.But,I have forgotten what it does.
[03:24] <Losha> mikelifeguard: usually /etc/bashrc is read by everyone who runs bash...
[03:24] <mikelifeguard> Losha: thanks
[03:24] <Losha> valley76: sounds like it's crocked then, sorry....
[03:25] <valley76> ok thank gonna upgrade soon anyway
[03:27] <kaell> Losha, I'm back up running on my 9.10 install, thanks for the help.
[03:27] <qayos> <-- me
[03:28] <puser> /open 1
[03:28] <Losha> qayos: glad to hear it. You can install 9.04 over the failed 8.04 install by choosing manual partition during install. Best of luck...
[03:29] <Tdubell> anyone know where a good list of commands for the terminal are?
[03:29] <wunjo> whats a good funny app in terminal like "joke of the day" type program
[03:29] <wunjo> I dont even know what to call these
[03:29] <Pici> wunjo: fortune ?
[03:29] <wunjo> Guess bashes
[03:29] <wunjo> sure
[03:29] <Losha> wunjo: bashes. That's funny...
[03:30] <wunjo> lol
[03:30] <ajnewbold> if there's an unused top-level item in the Main Menu, how can I nuke it?  it shows up in italics in the Main Menu app and I just want it to go away
[03:30] <Cryptorchild> does anyone know how to have higher res for terminal login?
[03:30] <ajnewbold> (the item in question is Wine, btw, and I thought it would vanish when I uninstalled wine but it's still hanging out there)
[03:30] <knoppies> Tdubell, I have a personal list of the ones I use often enough to need at my finger tips, but not often enough to remember them. I know of a desktop wallpaper with many on them. other than that I can tell you how to list commands in a few various ways on the terminal
[03:31] <L00pB4ck> hi everyone
[03:31] <L00pB4ck> i have a problem with my theme
[03:31] <17SAAKYQU> Anyone know a fix for the huge size of windows and such in Ubuntu? E.g. in Windows, my Chrome menu bar is small. In Linux, its huge.
[03:31] <cwek> hay
[03:31] <L00pB4ck> at logon my theme is not applied
[03:32] <ajnewbold> 17SAAKYQU: open the Appearance app, Fonts tab, and you can reduce the font sizes for application menus there
[03:32] <ajnewbold> 17SAAKYQU: I found that bumping all font sizes there down to 9 worked very nicely
[03:32] <L00pB4ck> when i launch "apperance" it is applied but only partially
[03:32] <cwek> aloww
[03:32] <knoppies> L00pB4ck, So we not talking about your GDM theme?
[03:32] <17SAAKYQU> ajnewbold, thanks. BAH I can't change my username.. /nick isn't working
[03:32] <knoppies> Tdubell, you there?
[03:33] <L00pB4ck> knoppies, no gtk
[03:33] <17SAAKYQU> ajnewbold, when you go to "Details" what DPI are you using?
[03:33] <knoppies> L00pB4ck, Im going to assume you actually have the files to the theme (ie, icons, mouse pointers, etc)
[03:34] <L00pB4ck> knoppies, yes everything was working fine before
[03:34] <git__> anyone know why the word Ubuntu is not in Mark Cuban's wikipedia?
[03:34] <zhig-> on the 9.10 installer, isn't there some option for a text install or am I just missing it?
[03:34] <git__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban
[03:34] <knoppies> L00pB4ck, I cant think of anything that would cause that.
[03:34] <owner> how do you force a debian package to install regardless of errors?
[03:34] <knoppies> Tdubell, you still there?
[03:35] <qayos> zhig-, I think you need the "alternate installer" disk, not sure though
[03:35] <L00pB4ck> knoppies, i think i'm missing something in my startup apps
[03:35] <17SAAKYQU> owner, what package installer are you using?
[03:35] <zhig-> qayos, damn... thanks
[03:35] <CaptainBland> Hello, all.  I'm speaking to you from the Live CD, where I'm trying to recover some files from my hard disk before a re-install.  But it's telling me I don't have permission to copy them.  Any ideas?
[03:36] <owner> dpkg
[03:36] <knoppies> L00pB4ck, maybe, Im not sure what is associated with gtk themes. You tried looking at the ubuntu forums?
[03:36] <L00pB4ck> knoppies, i'll go there thx
[03:37] <owner> Or is there a command to take an existing .deb file and recompile it for your system?
[03:37] <saylar> git__, why should it be there?
[03:37] <Tdubell> knoppies: yeah i'm back
[03:37] <17SAAKYQU> owner, try `man dpkg` or `dpkg --force-help [package name]`
[03:38] <pinkpanther> hi
[03:38] <17SAAKYQU> owner, when reading through the man file, it looks like you can force different things. Its a matter of finding the right --force (--force-install maybe)
[03:38] <knoppies> Tdubell, I have a personal list of the ones I use often enough to need at my finger tips, but not often enough to remember them. I know of a desktop wallpaper with many on them. other than that I can tell you how to list commands in a few various ways on the terminal, want me to pastebin one (or more)?
[03:38] <owner> Will try
[03:38] <pinkpanther> does everyone in here use ubuntu or...
[03:38] <git__> saylar, didn't cuban started this whole ubuntu movement?
[03:38] <knoppies> pinkpanther, not everyone, but the majority.
[03:38] <pinkpanther> cool
[03:39] <17SAAKYQU> owner, is this what you're looking for? "--force-bad-verify" : bad-verify: Install a package even if it fails authentic‐
[03:39] <17SAAKYQU>               ity check.
[03:39] <pinkpanther> anyone from Great Britain?
[03:39] <owner> no
[03:39] <saylar> git__, nope ;)
[03:39] <Pici> !sabdfl | git__
[03:39] <saylar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
[03:39] <Tdubell> knoppies: its okay, i just want to learn how to navigate ubuntu through terminal, like i navigate windows through cmd prompt
[03:39] <17SAAKYQU> owner, you can always just do a "--force-all" and see if that works
[03:39] <Pici> pinkpanther: Have you tried #ubuntu-uk ?
[03:40] <Tdubell> i could probably find the commands if i looked :p
[03:40] <git__> ohs Canonical
[03:40] <owner> I7SAAKYQU I have some custom source code I wrote and compiled into a 32 bit .deb package. I still have the source but every suggested method of compiling it for 64 fails.
[03:40] <pinkpanther> cmd is shit lol
[03:40] <knoppies> Tdubell, see my private message.
[03:40] <Pici> pinkpanther: Please mind your language here.
[03:40] <pinkpanther> sorry
[03:41] <17SAAKYQU> owner, I see. I assume it compiles by command-line w/o the .deb file
[03:41] <njbair> just got a new processor. Does ubuntu support quad-core out of the box?
[03:41] <Pici> njbair: yes.
[03:41] <owner> 17SAAKYQU correct. I found a how to page that worked for me the first time but I can't find it again.
[03:42] <owner> 17SAAKYQU maybe if I could send someone the source code they could figure it out.
[03:42] <17SAAKYQU> owner, ahh i see. I can't really help ya much more than that.. :( sorry
[03:42] <njbair> So I don't need a custom kernel or anything?
[03:42] <17SAAKYQU> owner, Also I'm on a 32-bit only laptop right now :'(
[03:42] <RxDx> is there any download manager, like downthemall on firefox, to google chrome?
[03:43] <pinkpanther> how long does it take to install slackware in vbox :|
[03:43] <pinkpanther> shuda give it more ram :|
[03:45] <pinkpanther> someone should make a new distro based on ubuntu for people new to linux and call it noobuntu :D
[03:46] <xorwhy> pinkpanther: They called it linux mint, I like the name
[03:47] <pinkpanther> meyaw
[03:48] <brandon420> anyone know ALOT about networks and ssh, and vnc?
[03:48] <xorwhy> I need to downgrade my wireless-N driver ath9k to the previous ath9k that supports only G/B/A
[03:49] <Meshach> Hey guys!
[03:49] <Dougdoug4> Hello. I have a problem. I want to install Ubuntu and get rid of Windows, the problem is that all my music and video(s) are stored on Windows, and I don't have an external HDD or other  computer to temporarily store the music on.
[03:49] <Meshach> @Dougdoug4, buy a usb stick, they are really really cheap. :)
[03:50] <pinkpanther> i could give you temp access to an unlimited FTP server but the servers down
[03:50] <xorwhy> Dougdoug4: First you make a partition for the music. Then you put the music on that partition. Lastly you install Ubuntu onto the Windows partition.
[03:50] <pinkpanther> :|
[03:50] <hexdump_> Dougdoug4:  Try WUBI
[03:50] <Dougdoug4> I own a 3gb USB stick, and I own about a 50gb music collection
[03:50] <xorwhy> WUBI does not kill windows, it dual boots. Correct?
[03:50] <clickme> hi everyone
[03:50] <hexdump_> xorwhy:  nope you can uninstall it just as you would a windows program
[03:50] <Meshach> Oh, my bad.
[03:50] <pinkpanther> id backup first
[03:50] <void_pointer> Hi pappies. Has anyone here installed ubuntu 9.10 on a hard drive already containing Windows 7? If so, does grub-2 detect the Windows install? I have read conflicting reports on the 'net. I know that 9.04 detected it and added it to the bootloader entries as I've done it.
[03:51] <Dougdoug4> So, what should I do, brodawgs?
[03:51] <pinkpanther> always backup
[03:51] <hsunda3> I am using a Ubuntu box as a router .. anyone have a good, easy application that allows me to generate IPtables configurations easily?
[03:51] <Dougdoug4> I like xorwhy's idea
[03:51] <hexdump_> and it's exactly the same thing as ubuntu.  I didn't use WUBI I manually configured the partitions but I have used it before and it works.
[03:51] <xorwhy> hexdump_: That's what I said, to the one who suggested WUBI to the one who wanted no windows at all to remain.
[03:51] <Dougdoug4> xorwhy: How would I create a partition on Windows?
[03:51] <hexdump_> oh lol
[03:51] <void_pointer> hsunda3, probably, but you won't like my idea. Learn iptables. It isn't that hard
[03:51] <pinkpanther> cant you just install bootable ubuntu inside windows
[03:52] <Dougdoug4> pinkpanther: that is stupid
[03:52] <xorwhy> Dougdoug4: It would be easiest to use your live CD of Ubuntu, and use the program "gparted".
[03:52] <hsunda3> void_pointer: I actually like your idea :) I am learning iptables, yes .. I just want to make sure I am doing it right. I guess I could use some netcat or tcpdump or something to see if my packet forwarding rules are right,huh?
[03:52] <pinkpanther> wah
[03:52] <hexdump_> I think I missed that small detail
[03:52] <pinkpanther> who called me stupid?
[03:52] <knoppies> Dougdoug4, I agree with using the liveCD, but you can create a partition using your windows install CD.
[03:53] <void_pointer> hsunda3, or if you have access to a remote machine you can use, even better. i test my rules from a remote box. Just remember to log anything you want to see (like stuff you are denying)
[03:53] <knoppies> pinkpanther, he said that what you suggested would be a bad idea, not that your stupid.
[03:53] <Tdubell> Dougdoug4: use virtualbox, that's what i'm doing
[03:53] <Dougdoug4> Ok, so how do I create a partition?
[03:53] <Cryptorchild> does anyone know how to have higher resolution for terminal login?
[03:53] <xorwhy> Seems all the regulars that "hold things together" aren't here right now.
[03:53] <hsunda3> void_pointer: yeah I guess I should do that :)
[03:53] <pinkpanther> why would it be bad
[03:53] <Dougdoug4> xorwhy: Can you PM me? This channel is getting spammy.
[03:54] <xorwhy> Dougdoug4: OK
[03:54] <pinkpanther> if you boot from the disc your morelikey to damage the win install
[03:54] <emsilva> Dougdoug4: Better yet, install ubuntu without deleting the windows partition. In ubuntu, copy all your stuff over to the ubuntu partition then format the windows partition to get the space back.
[03:54] <Dougdoug4> emsilva: could I really do that?
[03:54] <pinkpanther> well i id that once and it somehow deleted a few DLLs
[03:54] <hexdump_> if your stuff was FAT32 you wouldn't have a problem.  can't you create a seperate FAT32 parition copy over your music then install ubuntu
[03:54] <emsilva> Dougdoug4: yeah, I've done that myself.
[03:55] <hexdump_> ext4 can see FAT
[03:55] <hexdump_> I think
[03:55] <emsilva> can read NTFS as well just fine.
[03:55] <RxDx> is there any download manager, like downthemall on firefox, to google chrome?
[03:55] <pinkpanther> it can
[03:55] <Clete2> ok so I changed my font sizes... any clues on how t omake the Google Chrome border smaller?
[03:55] <hexdump_> well then there should be no problem
[03:55] <emsilva> yup
[03:55] <Clete2> and also any clue how to make Chrome listen to the system font sizes? Chrome fonts are still HUGE
[03:55] <pinkpanther> well i know it can see fat 32 but i duno about 12 or 16
[03:55] <hexdump_> just install ubuntu copy the music to your linux partiton and then wipe your NTFS
[03:56] <void_pointer> hsunda3, this is a good site to start from --> Linuxguruz.org
[03:56] <psusi> hexdump_, you mean Ubuntu can see fat, not ext4... doesn't make sense to say ext4 can see fat
[03:56] <pinkpanther> get a seagate 2TB
[03:56] <pinkpanther> ^ ^
[03:56] <LoopBack> after an update a couple of weeks ago i started having a serious problem on my laptop.at startup applications don't run and custom themes are not applied
[03:56] <jiohdi> does it make sense to say ubuntu can SEE
[03:56] <hexdump_> psusi:  if you know already why did you ask
[03:56] <hsunda3> void_pointer: cool thanks will check it out
[03:57] <hexdump_> I'm sure we both know what we mean my bad
[03:57] <void_pointer> hsunda3, and here is a nice example to start out from --> http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jns/files/iptables_ruleset
[03:57] <pinkpanther> aint u got an mp3 player with ya music on?
[03:58] <tm0> Hello i recently installed Conky. I have searched, but i cannot find the location of the conkyrc file.
[03:58] <hsunda3> void_pointer: cool man .. yeah there are plenty of them on Google thanks
[03:58] <void_pointer> hsunda3, you will learn a lot about networking etc. by learning how to configure iptables manually. It is well worth it.
[03:58] <Dougdoug4> Ok question: I heard that if I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, that once I decide I don't want Ubuntu anymore, if I delete it, I won't be able to use Windows again because of GRUB?
[03:58] <void_pointer> hsunda3, yeah, but I didn't write all those others ones ;)
[03:59] <void_pointer> Hi pappies. Has anyone here installed ubuntu 9.10 on a hard drive already containing Windows 7? If so, does grub-2 detect the Windows install? I have read conflicting reports on the 'net. I know that 9.04 detected it and added it to the bootloader entries as I've done it.
[03:59] <hsunda3> void_pointer: whoa nice
[03:59] <pinkpanther> iv had conflicts with xp n vista
[03:59] <jiohdi> tm0 you are trying to change conky?
[03:59] <Dougdoug4> Ok question: I heard that if I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, that once I decide I don't want Ubuntu anymore, if I delete it, I won't be able to use Windows again because of GRUB?
[03:59] <hexdump_> Dougdoug4:  they install on seperate partitoins u shouldn't have a problem.
[03:59] <tm0> jiohdi yes, it has the flickering bug. I need to apply the fix
[03:59] <earthen> whats the command to remount all drives?
[04:00] <hexdump_> Dougdoug4:  I think many people suggested try WUBI.  IF you don't want to use ubuntu anymore just uninstall it in windows no problem.
[04:00] <Dougdoug4> hexdump_ when I install and load the partitioner
[04:00] <jiohdi> tm0: you just make a file like conky.config and then start conky with conky --configure=conky.config
[04:00] <Dougdoug4> It doesn't give me the option to dual boot
[04:00] <Dougdoug4> Only erase all or specific manually
[04:00] <serverduck> how do i scan for wireless networks in ubuntu like i used to do in windows?
[04:00] <hexdump_> Dougdoug4:  what are you suing Livecd to install ubuntu or WUBI?
[04:01] <jiohdi> tm0 you can copy someone elses conky file for the most part and then apply your own changes
[04:01] <pinkpanther> thats easy right click the network icon on the taskbar
[04:01] <serverduck> I could refresh and a bunch of networks appeared...
[04:01] <Dougdoug4> hexdump_: LiveCD
[04:01] <tm0> jiohdi are you sure? I was almost it is .conkyrc ?
[04:01] <pinkpanther> personaly i think usin wlan in ubuntu is 10 times easier than on windows
[04:01] <jiohdi> tm0 I have done a few conky configs in my linux time :)
[04:01] <LoopBack> after an update a couple of weeks ago i started having a serious problem on my laptop.at startup applications don't run and custom themes are not applied plz help
[04:01] <knoppies> !pastebin
[04:02] <void_pointer> serverduck, if you are using the default gnome desktop there is an icon up the top. Click it and you'll get the networks
[04:02] <void_pointer> serverduck, if you are feeling a bit more *nix, type "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" in a terminal
[04:02] <tm0> So where do i make the file hiodi? in my home?
[04:02] <CaptainBland> So, when the nVidia drivers are installed, it reboots or turns off as soon as it hits the desktop.  If I DON'T have them installed, it gives me 'out of range' messages.   I'm about to throw this computter from a very tall place.
[04:03] <jiohdi> tm0 you can make it anywhere you want, as long as you point to it correctly, but in your home/user directory would be best
[04:03] <serverduck> void_pointer, yes the default theme but i have 20 wireless networks and i can't add every single one...how to i scan and click to connect instead of setting each up in network manager?
[04:03] <pinkpanther> 20?
[04:03] <pinkpanther> wtf!
[04:03] <tm0> Thank you jiohdi
[04:03] <jiohdi> tm0 np
[04:04] <void_pointer> serverduck, what do you mean "add"? When you left click the icon all the available networks come up, just like in Windows. click one and then "connect"
[04:04] <pinkpanther> it depends how ur routers set up
[04:04] <pinkpanther> do you have broadcast on
[04:04] <clickme> how do i setup in ubuntu 9.10 the medie center usb remote
[04:04] <brandon420> anyone in here know about networks-ssh and vnc?
[04:04] <pinkpanther> or is it hidden
[04:05] <void_pointer> brandon420, just ask the question
[04:05] <knoppies> brandon420, I know a little, but probably not what your looking for. Ask anyway.
[04:05] <void_pointer> brandon420, if anyone knows the answer they'll tell you
[04:05] <xorwhy> brandon420: #remote-exploit
[04:05] <brandon420> exploit sounds about what i need
[04:05] <jiohdi> tm0: here is a sample you can use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/393771/
[04:06] <serverduck> void_pointer, when i click network manager i get>wired networks(device not managed-its with grey)..wireless networks(disconnected)vpn connections....connect to a hidden wireless network..create new wireless network.
[04:06] <xorwhy> brandon420: Be sure of what you need before you decide you need it, if you know what I mean
[04:06] <tm0> thank you again jiohdi
[04:06] <knoppies> serverduck, sounds like the device is managed by something else.
[04:06] <zzo38> How can I make a CD that can autorun and download this program from the internet:  http://wiki.freegeekvancouver.org/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=Qc.sh
[04:06] <serverduck> void_pointer,  wired and wireless networks are with grey and not selectable
[04:06] <jiohdi> (^_^)
[04:06] <zzo38> Also tell me if there is a mistake in this program
[04:06] <pinkpanther> whats the terminal command for compizconfig?
[04:07] <xangua> pinkpanther: ccsm
[04:07] <serverduck> knoppies, and what is that?I can't figure out...I made my ppoe connection with sudo pppoe
[04:07] <xorwhy> )v-v(
[04:07] <serverduck> knoppies, could that mess up the wireless network too?
[04:07] <brandon420> xorwhy: lol, its not like that
[04:07] <tm0> jiohdi after appling the changes in gedit, i save and will they take affect right after?
[04:07] <xorwhy> brandon420: Haha great :)
[04:08] <knoppies> serverduck, Im not su clued up on networking, and Im not even sure I know what ppoe is, but if you set up a particular device in /etc/network/interfaces then that applet cannot manage the device.
[04:08] <brandon420> xorwhy: its really dead in there
[04:08] <jiohdi> tm0 it will take effect as soon as you run the command  conky --config= or is it --configure= and then the file name
[04:08] <void_pointer> serverduck, hmm I see. You should have a line in there that says "Available". Maybe you have a conflict with Network manager and something else. You could try wicd. Many people prefer it
[04:08] <tm0> okay thank you
[04:08] <pinkpanther> moo
[04:09] <zzo38> Can you help me my question, please?
[04:09] <xorwhy> brandon420: My experience with those utilities is pretty limited, I've used the protocols on a "do it" basis, rather than a true learning one.
[04:09] <clickme> anyone know how to set usb media remote
[04:09] <serverduck> void_pointer, how can i resolve the conflict?
[04:09] <pinkpanther> omg its the daleks! Exterminate....
[04:10] <brandon420> xorwhy: i jsut need know how to get a ssh on my old computer so i can start up vnc, i have all the info and open ports, but its not letting putty connect to it
[04:10] <void_pointer> serverduck, well, first try "sudo apt-get install wicd"
[04:10] <serverduck> void_pointer, ok
[04:10] <Max_> I dumped the contents of a hard disk into a file into another hard disk. For this, I used the dd command. How can I access the data contained in the backup file?
[04:11] <void_pointer> serverduck, then you'll get a different icon you can click on
[04:11] <tm0> jiohdi that didn't work very well. It came up with error. Many of them.
[04:11] <Roasted> Why is it when I VNC from my ubuntu laptop to my ubuntu desktop, whenever I open windows on my laptop remotely into my desktop, nothing comes up on my laptop screen yet they come up on my desktop? Example - I click Places and the menu drops down on my desktop, but not my laptop. I can see everything fine on myd esktop, but laptop never displays anything whatsoever.
[04:11] <xorwhy> brandon420: you shouldn't need SSH to use VNC. Just install xvnc4viewer on the linux box, and vncserver on the windows one. Get the IP and port right on the connect and it should "just work"
[04:11] <jiohdi> tm0 it takes some tweaking
[04:11] <earthen> does anyone know why i can't mount my NTFS drives and have the icons show up on my desktop with the names i want instead of "56 gig media"
[04:12] <trism> Roasted: if you have compiz enabled on the machine you vnc into, it won't update properly
[04:12] <Roasted> trism, so if I disable compiz on my desktop, I should be okay?
[04:12] <xorwhy> Roasted: trism: Compiz does not render xvnc4viewer when the full screen option is selected.
[04:12] <trism> Roasted: yes
[04:12] <brandon420> xorwhy: this is from a ubuntu-ubuntu and i dont have access to the computer its like 6 hours away from me. i know it has vnc on it, and i know the info. it jsut hasnt beem logged into
[04:13] <Roasted> trism, well, that sucks, because I need compiz enabled for docky2 to run.
[04:13] <jiohdi> tm0: there are conky config files around if you google for them, some work, some dont depending on the system
[04:13] <tm0> jiohdi i will have to do that, thank you
[04:13] <void_pointer> Hi pappies. Has anyone here installed ubuntu 9.10 on a hard drive already containing Windows 7? If so, does grub-2 detect the Windows install? I have read conflicting reports on the 'net. I know that 9.04 detected it and added it to the bootloader entries as I've done it. <--- Answer: grub2 won't find Windows 7 without reinstalling grub on the linux partition. For me anyway.
[04:14] <jiohdi> tm0 conky was sort of designed for low power older machines with things like openbox and icewm
[04:14] <tm0> jiohdi, so not the gnome we have today then :p
[04:14] <jiohdi> tm0 that may be why you are getting so many errors
[04:14] <xorwhy> brandon420: All my experience with VNC has been LAN based, I never could get it to work over the internet. I still don't think you need SSH separately. And some ports are blocked by ISP without notifying the user, so maybe try an oddball one between 1024 and 2048.
[04:14] <void_pointer> tm0, er, many of us use openbox. Even today :)
[04:14] <jiohdi> tm0: I used that on a very  low power machine
[04:15] <Roasted> think Im out of luck then trism?
[04:15] <tm0> jiohdi i see
[04:15] <xorwhy> My friend told me his FIOS blocked port 25 lol.
[04:15] <tm0> void_pointer i used to use openbox, couldn't stand it...
[04:15] <void_pointer> well, I use openbox on a quad core based box
[04:15] <void_pointer> tm0, well it isn't really for noobs, this is true
[04:15] <void_pointer> tm0, or windows refugees
[04:15] <sekyourbox> what is that progra that shows you everything that starts up with ubuntu?
[04:15] <serverduck_> i installed wicd now it's working fine
[04:15] <brandon420> xorwhy: i scanned the ports, and i know the ones that i have forwarded
[04:15] <serverduck_> void_pointer, thanks so much
[04:16] <serverduck_> void_pointer, wicd is better than network manager. so geeky:)
[04:16] <void_pointer> serverduck excellent. I accept Visa, Mastercard and American Express ;)
[04:16] <brandon420> xorwhy:i guess ill keep googleing and checking back here for a guru
[04:16] <void_pointer> serverduck yeah, I use it too
[04:16] <xorwhy> brandon420: Your ISP takes dominance over your router when it comes to what ports are usable.
[04:16] <serverduck_> void_pointer, Ahh sir? do you accept beer?:)
[04:16] <xorwhy> brandon420: K, good luck.
[04:16] <tm0> void_pointer it wasn't that. It just seemed so... empty.
[04:17] <brandon420> and no fios man, they dont give a shit
[04:17] <void_pointer> serverduck of course! Tell you what, I'll buy myself one tonight and pretend it was from you
[04:17] <Roasted> Using Ubuntu, what program can I use to burn an ISO as an image to a flash drive? Keep in mind, I'm not trying to use Ubuntu as a bootable flash drive - I have another ISO I'd like to be able to boot (Ultimate Boot CD). Any ideas?
[04:17] <void_pointer> tm0, heh, yeah, some of us just want to get stuff done without eye candy. 90% of what I do involves the command line and terminals
[04:18] <sqwertle> !10.04
[04:18] <void_pointer> Roasted, www.pendrivelinux.com is a good place to start
[04:18] <tm0> viod_pointer i would love to turn into that one day, but i still rely on the gui far to much still. Hoping a server will change that a little
[04:19] <serverduck> void_pointer, hehee shure...:)
[04:19] <serverduck> void_pointer,  i will buy one too..in your name! :)
[04:19] <void_pointer> tm0, be careful what you wish for lol
[04:19] <trism> Roasted: there may be a workaround, but I don't use compiz anyway, so I haven't looked
[04:19] <tm0> void_pointer haha, i will :p[
[04:19] <hollenjf> does anyone use any VoIP services for their main house line?
[04:20] <Roasted> trism, it was just recommended to me to enable metacity compositing instead, which would allow docky to run and yet compiz would be turned off, therefore maybe solving my issue. Any idea how to enable metacity compositing?
[04:21] <jub369> I got some rar files i made that i forgot pass to what software can i use on linux to get it back
[04:21] <jiohdi> Roasted: unetbootin
[04:22] <void_pointer> Roasted, if you want something even simpler that unetbootin look at this page: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:23] <sena__> fgvdf
[04:25] <void_pointer> sena__, is that a question or an answer?
[04:25] <CountDown> How do I select the microphone on my headset as the preferred sound input source?  I'm running 9.10 on a Thinkpad T400s.  The audio input is an integrated 1/8" jack, meaning that earphones and microphone are all on one plug.
[04:26] <Tdubell> i have a kind of basic question, i turned off gnome when i was logging into ubuntu, is there anyway to put it back up?
[04:26] <trism> Roasted: using xcompmgr instead may work, seemed to work for someone else with awn
[04:27] <Tdubell> sorry, nvm i got it
[04:28] <sena__> fgd
[04:28] <sena__> jjbdl
[04:28] <sena__> bfgj
[04:28] <bazhang> sena__, please stop that
[04:28] <sena__> pichurias
[04:29] <void_pointer> sena__, ah, it's a series of answers
[04:29] <sena__> ??
[04:30] <void_pointer> sena__, ok, we've established you are sentient. Now, heed bazhang's advice or you'll be sent to /dev/null
[04:30] <wineman> anybody had problems with ubuntu taking a long time to boot up?
[04:30] <Tdubell> me, but thats running it on virtualbox
[04:30] <serverduck> wineman, what are your system specs?
[04:30] <void_pointer> wineman, 34 seconds here. That's with openbox though
[04:31] <wineman> system specs like 1gig ram 1.86 processor?
[04:31] <serverduck> wineman, yes
[04:32] <wineman> have like a 30 second pause after the white ubuntu symbol
[04:32] <void_pointer> wineman, even that should boot up within 1 minute 30 seconds
[04:32] <jiohdi> Tdubell: when you log in you have the option of which session to use... just chose gnome
[04:33] <zzo38> How can I make a CD autorun a bash script when inserted?
[04:33] <wineman> but at that i have to log on at a screen that says tty1 login
[04:33] <Tdubell> jiohdi: i just figured that out, thanks anyways though :)
[04:33] <wineman> then 30 second delay
[04:34] <hihowareyou> I'm a noob ubuntu user and I'm trying to boot (but not yet install, I will, but not now) ubuntu on my windows xp dell computer. It loads etc but then has a black screen with the mouse that looks like it's loading... but 15 mins later no change... same screen :\ help
[04:34] <HorizonXP> hi, i'm remote desktoping into a machine, but all i can see is the wallpaper. I can't pull open the panels, nor does right clicking bring up a menu
[04:35] <jiohdi> hihowareyou: how old is the machine?
[04:35] <hihowareyou> circa 2006
[04:35] <HorizonXP> sshing into it, doing export DISPLAY=:0 and running a X-based program like gcalctool doesn't seem to display anything in the VNC session
[04:36] <zzo38> Also can you please tell me if this script has a mistake:  http://wiki.freegeekvancouver.org/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=Qc.sh
[04:36] <ibnulislam> After installing OSS in Karmic (a dependency for Etoile) there is no hardware devices list to choose in sound preferences. What to do?
[04:36] <HorizonXP> any help?
[04:37] <stopmv> is there an option to make banshee display only the grid view without artist list which is on the right
[04:37] <stopmv> left*
[04:37] <Tim42> Karmic fails to boot with 2.6.31-19-powerpc but works fine with 2.6.28-6-powerpc on a G4 400 MHz. Fails with:
[04:37] <serverduck> void_pointer, are you familiar with conky? i have a problem with it. It doesn't autostart every time i login even if it's on startup programs defined
[04:38] <Tim42> FATAL: Error inserting i8042 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-19-powerpc/kernel/drivers/input/serio/i8042.ko): No such device
[04:38] <Tim42> ALERT! /dev/hdc7 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[04:38] <makdotgnu> how Do i install ruby 1.9 in ubuntu 8.04 ?? I installed from synaptic but when I do ruby -v I get out put intsall ruby. ... please help
[04:39] <azendal> #elasticss
[04:39] <hihowareyou> anything?
[04:40] <zzo38> Why does nobody ever answer a question on this channel, everyone ask question but nobody answered!
[04:40] <azendal> does anyone is testin ubuntu 10.04? that has problems with gedit?
[04:40] <rww> azendal: Lucid questions in #ubuntu+1, not here
[04:40] <azendal> what do you need zzo38
[04:41] <zzo38> azendal: Two question. One is how to make a CD autorun and the other is if my script has a mistake or not
[04:41] <hihowareyou> help
[04:42] <serverduck> why doesn't conky start every time i login if it was defined at startup applications?
[04:43] <hexdump_> does anyone know a really good flash design program for linux?  I noticed a program called Moho or anime studio but is there a free program anywhere?
[04:43] <zzo38> I want to make the three commands at the top in a bash script to downlaod this script and run on Ubuntu when the CD inserted
[04:43] <rdvonz> I bought a d-link dwa-125 and tried installin the RalinkTech drivers from the site here: http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 But it seems like they mixed up the drivers! the rt3070 file is actually the rt2870! Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:43] <zzo38> But I also wanted to know if you think the script (of the URL I put) is correct or if you think there is a mistake, if there is a mistake I would like to fix it please
[04:44] <jiohdi> zzo38: when people know the answer they will give it... but sometimes we are all just noobs
[04:44] <knoppies> serverduck, is you start conky with the same command that was defined in startup applications, does it start up?
[04:45] <zzo38> jiohdi: OK. At first I asked at the actual location, I asked those people, but they didn't know, so now I went on IRC to ask these question. I guess I can't  get answered......
[04:45] <serverduck> knoppies, if i start from the terminal conky -c path...to config it works
[04:45] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  I agree it's impossible to know all the ins and outs of every program out there.
[04:45] <serverduck> knoppies, i defined the exact command plus path in the startup applications but it doesn't start every time:)
[04:45] <knoppies> serverduck, I assume its that same command that you put in startup applications.
[04:46] <jiohdi> hexdump_: especially when some of the manuals look like japanese stereo instructions
[04:46] <knoppies> serverduck, if it starts some times, and not others, then idk.
[04:46] <knoppies> serverduck, I manually start it every time I login.
[04:46] <serverduck> knoppies, it doesn't start...never
[04:46] <serverduck> knoppies, only manual it starts in the terminal
[04:46] <serverduck> knoppies, after login to the machine.
[04:47] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  Yeah, it's hard to determine what exactly one should be proicient at.
[04:47] <knoppies> serverduck, Im not sure. I would try play with the parameters, or maybe settings in startup applications, or look at ubuntu forums for a similar problem.
[04:47] <serverduck> knoppies, yes but would be nice to automatically start so no endless typing every restart
[04:47] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  I got my A+ cert years ago before I went to the military now I get out and so much has changed.  my cert is useless now.
[04:48] <hihowareyou> HELP: When I boot from USB as it's starting up it shows all the cool graphics etc and the big UBUNTU but then switches to a rounded mouses with a dot rotating inside of it on a black screen.... it's like it's trying to load but isn't.... dell inspiron e1405 circa 2006. My windows XP atapi.sys file got corrupeted leaving my computer unbootable/unusable... help!!!
[04:48] <serverduck> knoppies, ok thanks! :)
[04:48] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I had an MCSE +internet and its worthless too :)
[04:48] <void_pointer> I have a Masters in computer science and it still has worth :)
[04:48] <void_pointer> there's a moral here ...
[04:48] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  when I got out I didn't even know what SATA was.  I had a lot of problems the past few years with addiction and just now finally I'm starting to get  things together.
[04:49] <serverduck> void_pointer,  :)) hehehee..the best and only type of education is the self education! :)
[04:49] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I know just enough to be dangerous :)
[04:49] <void_pointer> serverduck, actually, I came back to IRC because of you highlighting my nick ... did you solve your conky problem?
[04:49] <serverduck> void_pointer,  not yet:(
[04:49] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  Yeah I think I know enough when in reality there are people out there that make me look dumb.
[04:50] <serverduck> void_pointer,  sorry ..didn't want to disturb you
[04:50] <void_pointer> serverduck, there are various ways to get things to run at boot up/ log in. you might have to put the conky line in all of them
[04:50] <sena__> hp
[04:50] <sena__> hufghers
[04:50] <sena__> hngiljg
[04:50] <sena__> hiuhgu
[04:50] <FloodBot2> sena__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I am an expert on crashing systems and re-installing them :)
[04:50] <void_pointer> serverduck,  lol, disturb away.
[04:50] <hexdump_> lol
[04:50] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  I think I might be better at that than yu.
[04:50] <sena__> hjggrtihj
[04:50] <sena__> ujhgoist
[04:50] <sena__> ohikoshes
[04:50] <sena__> itjhos
[04:50] <FloodBot2> sena__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <sena__> jojoy
[04:50] <hexdump_> c'mon with this guy
[04:50] <void_pointer> sena__, I have a feeling you'll be going bye-bye soon
[04:51] <serverduck> void_pointer,  well exactly what i type at the terminal to get conky running i typed in the startup applications and it doesn't work.
[04:51] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I think one of my computers got installed about two dozen times in the last 6 months
[04:51] <knoppies> jiohdi, Im almost that bad.
[04:51] <hihowareyou> anyone? :(
[04:51] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  yeah I'm alway trying to install multiple OS.  and end up screwing stuff up.  I have a triple boot right now going for quad boot
[04:52] <serverduck> lol quad boot?:)
[04:52] <serverduck> hehehhee
[04:52] <void_pointer> serverduck, have you tried giving the full path for everything?
[04:52] <serverduck> void_pointer, yes gave full path for the conky config
[04:52] <hexdump_> serverduck:  yeah just messin around
[04:52] <void_pointer> serverduck, and for conky?
[04:53] <serverduck> void_pointer,  if i type in the terminal coky starts
[04:53] <serverduck> void_pointer,  oups no...i don't know how to do that.
[04:53] <serverduck> void_pointer, and were conky is installed.
[04:53] <hexdump_> wanted to see if I could actually get it working with grub, grub2.  seems something always gets screwed up.  luckily everything is working ok "for now"
[04:53] <void_pointer> serverduck, I can't remember if conky needs root to run, does it?
[04:53] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I have w7 and ubuntu on another machine with suse in virtual box
[04:53] <serverduck> void_pointer, nope..no root neded.
[04:54] <serverduck> void_pointer, needed*
[04:54] <jason_> just installed lucid
[04:54] <serverduck> void_pointer, where is conky installed
[04:54] <jason_> not able to turn on bluetooth nor get flash working?
[04:55] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  years ago I tried that winlinux.  ewwww
[04:55] <rww> jason_: Lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <serverduck> void_pointer, i could try with the browse option maybe it will start.
[04:55] <bazhang> jason_, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[04:55] <meganerd> quadboot?  ouch
[04:55] <jiohdi> void_pointer: conky does not need root to run
[04:55] <hexdump_> yeah wonder if I could actually get quad boot working.
[04:55] <jason_> #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <hexdump_> I think the key is not to install the loader until you have installed your final OS
[04:56] <void_pointer> serverduck, you could try a bit of a hack and make a script in your home directory that you call with the startup app
[04:56] <zetheroo> is it just me or does openoffice really seem to struggle with anything semi-decent in size ...
[04:56] <jiohdi> hexdump_: grub2 seems to be good at detecting a number of installed os's and then taking them into account
[04:56] <serverduck> void_pointer,  i don't know how to write that script yet...
[04:57] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  well I installed mandriva then ubuntu and it had problems loading mandriva.  Installed mandriva then ubuntu and loaded up fine.
[04:57] <thundarr> I'm trying to find compiz config and going nuts.
[04:57] <hexdump_> thundarr:  type terminal ccsm
[04:57] <jiohdi> hexdump_: many distro's dont want to play nice, ubuntu does not mind sharing :)
[04:58] <void_pointer> serverduck, like, create a file in /home called "conky_start.sh" and put in it: "#!/bin/bash conky -c yourconfig". Then make it executable: "chmod a+x conky_start.sh". then add the script to the startup manager
[04:58] <hexdump_> joohdi:  yeah I really like ubuntu probably one of my favs right now.
[04:58] <serverduck> void_pointer,  thanks i'll try right now, thanks so much
[04:58] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I did a restore point for win7 and it screwed up the loader... but then I put another ubuntu on it and it detected the win7 and the other ubuntu and now its fine
[04:58] <void_pointer> serverduck, only thank when it works ;)
[04:58] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  I'm trying to put Yellow dog on my broken PS3, that is if I can get my old ps3 YLOD(Yellow light of death) fixed.
[04:59] <hihowareyou> well then looks like I sorta figured it out myseld
[04:59] <HorizonXP> ok, i figured something out. if I disconnect and reconnect my VNC session, i can see the desktop refreshing with the programs i'm trying to run
[04:59] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  yeah same thing happened to me.
[04:59] <hihowareyou> *myself
[04:59] <hihowareyou> it booted but is all command line
[04:59] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  I have my old model ps3 in peices.  I was lookin on youtube and somebody put their ps3 in the oven!
[05:00] <hexdump_> I guess the point is to melt the solder joints and try and let them bond back again.
[05:00] <jiohdi> hexdump_: what, to make a microwave?
[05:00] <rww> ubottu: ot
[05:00] <void_pointer> serverduck, if you need clarification of those instructions tell me. They were a bit slack
[05:00] <jiohdi> hexdump_: I suspect that would bake all the chips before it helped
[05:01] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  That's what I thought, but supposedly the guy did it and it fixed it.
[05:01] <void_pointer> the plastic would melt before the chips "baked"
[05:01] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  sort of like the xbox360 towel trick
[05:01] <jiohdi> hexdump_: unless he is just trying to see how many will fall for it
[05:01] <mya> yeah right
[05:01] <bazhang> lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:01] <serverduck> void_pointer, no it's ok...i done that i hope it will work
[05:01] <robertzaccour> howdy yall
[05:01] <hexdump_> I've heard of using a hair dryer to melt the solder and let them bond back.  The true way to fix it is with a heat gun though.  this brit dude on youtube fixed his no problem.
[05:02] <void_pointer> serverduck, if not I have more hacky ways to start things :)
[05:02] <serverduck> void_pointer, i got to eat something, thank you so much
[05:02] <void_pointer> serverduck, same
[05:02] <void_pointer> apt-get install lunch
[05:02] <robertzaccour> is there a yahoo messenger client for Ubuntu that has voice chat? browser based is ok too
[05:02] <serverduck> void_pointer,  i will look and see if it works, if not.. i will tell you later when i get back from work.
[05:02] <serverduck> void_pointer,  bon apetit! :)
[05:02] <hexdump_> well all I gotta run trying to setup a little website on my old crap computer
[05:02] <void_pointer> serverduck, ciao
[05:03] <rastasean> so i'm looking for some help with mny radeon hd 4350 video card and ubuntu 9.10 i posted on the forums but please look at it
[05:03] <rastasean> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8952803#post8952803
[05:03] <hexdump_> trying to turn my old crap computer into a web proxy/web server/file server
[05:03] <hihowareyou> so how do I go from command line to desktop??????????
[05:03] <jiohdi> hihowareyou: reboot :)
[05:03] <hexdump_> I've had major problems setting up squid3
[05:03] <hihowareyou> and then what
[05:03] <coz_> hihowareyou,  well are you on gnome?
[05:03] <hexdump_> jiohdi:  hey man I'll talk to you later I need to get back to work
[05:03] <robertzaccour> i meant video chat
[05:03] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, "startx" might help
[05:04] <hihowareyou> I've never done this before
[05:04] <jiohdi> hexdump_: later dude
[05:04] <robertzaccour> is there a yahoo messenger client for Ubuntu that has video chat? browser based is ok too
[05:04] <coz_> hihowareyou,   if on gnome    sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:04] <coz_> hihowareyou,  if on kde  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:04] <hihowareyou> I dont know
[05:04] <hihowareyou> I downloaded unbuntu vs 9.1
[05:04] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, well type "startx" first then
[05:05] <coz_> hihowareyou,  then it is    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:05] <Firepower> Hi
[05:05] <hihowareyou> and when it reloads it'll load via desktop? (grapic)
[05:05] <hihowareyou> *graphic
[05:06] <coz_> hihowareyou,  yes it will load the login screen and then the desktop
[05:06] <thundarr> hexdump_: thank you so much.
[05:06] <robertzaccour> is there a yahoo messenger client for Ubuntu that has video chat? browser based is ok too
[05:06] <hihowareyou> it says it cannot write to it
[05:06] <hihowareyou> Im on the page where it explains the root sudo thing
[05:06] <coz_> robertzaccour,   amsn     pidgin   both I believe
[05:06] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, why do you refuse to type "startx"?
[05:07] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, is it a phobia?
[05:07] <hihowareyou> I did! it says it cannot write to it
[05:07] <robertzaccour> coz_, amsn is msn and pidgin does not for yahoo
[05:07] <jacklee> who is familiar with DNS Configuration?
[05:07] <suolakurkku> o/
[05:07] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, I see. Can you paste the error in the pastebin?
[05:07] <hihowareyou> nvm
[05:07] <robertzaccour> the browser based ones that i've tried, when it comes time for clicking the button allow flash, the button isn't clickable in linux
[05:07] <hihowareyou> i figured it out
[05:07] <hihowareyou> I dont know the key commands
[05:07] <hihowareyou> Im fumbling in the dark
[05:08] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, so it works?
[05:08] <HorizonXP> turns out it doesn't like desktop effects being on
[05:08] <hihowareyou> "no such file or directory"
[05:09] <coz_> robertzaccour,  http://www.technixupdate.com/download-yahoo-messenger-for-ubuntu-linux-with-webcam-voice-chat-photo-sharing-support/  but that is real old
[05:09] <robertzaccour> oh the desktop effects can be so buggy lol
[05:09] <suolakurkku> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and linux in general, does anyone know any good editors for HTML CSS and Javascript, nothing fancy, but effective and useable
[05:09] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, hmm, well I have to go get lunch. Keep asking, someone will help you
[05:09] <void_pointer> suolakurkku, vim
[05:09] <void_pointer> I couldn't resist
[05:09]  * suolakurkku checks it out
[05:09] <hihowareyou> "command not found"
[05:10] <void_pointer> hihowareyou, keep asking, pappy
[05:10] <mya> @suolakurkku bluefish
[05:11] <suolakurkku> i tried gedit but it lacks a few features i'd like to have
[05:11] <hihowareyou_> it says "command not found"
[05:12] <blakkheim> suolakurkku: vi
[05:12] <suolakurkku> what's the package i need to get? just vim?
[05:12] <blakkheim> suolakurkku: yes
[05:12] <suolakurkku> ok
[05:13] <suolakurkku> thanks
[05:13] <GSF1200S> does anyone know the hex code for the color black (specifically for conky). I have x-session errors file being bombarded with errors that it cannot parse color code 000000
[05:13] <blakkheim> GSF1200S: did you try #000000
[05:14] <hihowareyou_> IT WORKS GUYS!!!
[05:14] <hihowareyou_> W00T
[05:14] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: nope.. I suppose that will do it? Ill give it a shot
[05:14] <hexdump_> whooo got er workin'
[05:14] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: should the # be appended before every color choice or just black?
[05:15] <hihowareyou_> so how do I turn on my wireless adapter? heh I disabled it before my computer crashed
[05:15] <blakkheim> GSF1200S: every
[05:15] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: thanks
[05:16] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: that changes the color to white
[05:17] <suolakurkku> do i need some sort of frontend for Vim
[05:17]  * hexdump_ slaps iceroot around a bit with a large trout
[05:17] <hexdump_> what?
[05:17] <blakkheim> suolakurkku: no
[05:17] <hexdump_> I didn't do that
[05:17] <blakkheim> GSF1200S: i thought 000000 was black and FFFFFF was white, maybe that's backwards
[05:17] <suolakurkku> mmkay
[05:18] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: according to this youre right.. wtf? Why is it white? http://www.pageresource.com/html/hexcodes.htm
[05:19] <blakkheim> GSF1200S: in my conkyrc i have a line that says "default_color black" try that
[05:19] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: cool, ill try that
[05:20] <hexdump_> if anybody has experience using squid3 please msg me when u have some free time.  thanks
[05:20] <GSF1200S> blakkheim: that looks to have fixed it.. thanks
[05:21] <hihowareyou_> Im looking for my network connections but I cant find it :\
[05:22] <tws7> hi all
[05:22] <mjec> hey, a fresh 9.10 install doesn't like my screen and is automatically using a resolution it can't handle. How can I force a specified resolution? xorg.conf?
[05:22] <tws7> my system is not booting up
[05:22] <tws7> not mounting /home
[05:23] <tws7> asks me to enter recovery shell
[05:23] <hihowareyou_> it wont show up on desktop
[05:23] <suolakurkku> bluefish seems nice after i removed some menu's
[05:23] <tws7> any solution?
[05:23] <suolakurkku> coudn't start vim properly
[05:24] <frederick_noe> hi
[05:24] <frederick_noe> i got a little concern, in my character map i cant see all the characters, can somebody tell me why?
[05:24] <frederick_noe> i mean, some are missing
[05:25] <mjec> tws7: there are several possible reasons for this. Could be configuration changes, hard drive error etc.
[05:26] <tws7> mjec, i see...
[05:26] <mjec> tws7: have you changed any hardware recently? Done an upgrade of software?
[05:26] <tws7> mjec, no
[05:27] <tws7> normal updates...
[05:27] <tws7> mjec, had mounted a portable harddrive...
[05:27] <tws7> shud it cause any issues?
[05:27] <justin_> Anyone else have issues with download speeds? Mine stay at around 1.3-1.5mbps and within 20 seconds drop down to around 100kbps. They just bouce back and forth.
[05:27] <mjec> tws7: maybe, if it uses the same interface as /home. try unplugging and rebooting.
[05:28] <tws7> drive isnt connected anymore
[05:28] <tws7> have rebooted several times now
[05:28] <askhader> Anyone ever encounter this bug where after Ubuntu goes into standby, youtube plays super fast without audio?
[05:29] <tws7> have also executed this command: `sudo shutdown -r -t 0 now` from the recovery console..
[05:29] <tws7> but still no go
[05:30] <mjec> tws7: how much do you know about partitions, filesystems etc?
[05:30] <tws7> not much
[05:31] <tws7> just the basics
[05:31] <zetheroo> we need an office suite that does not run with Java!
[05:31] <tws7> mjec, you want me to do something?
[05:31] <tws7> i can try
[05:32] <mjec> tws7: basics will help. If you type "fdisk -l" (no quotes and that's lower case L), can you tell if its output is right?
[05:32] <kinja-sheep> mjec: sudo: prelude!
[05:32] <tws7> lemme chk
[05:32] <makdotgnu> how Do i install ruby 1.9 in ubuntu 8.04 ?? I installed from synaptic but when I do ruby -v I get out put intsall ruby. ... please help
[05:33] <mjec> kinja-sheep: recovery console, so not required ;)
[05:34] <tws7> mjec, output is correct
[05:34] <zhig-> heh sort of ironic.. the text based install was many times easier than the graphical one
[05:35] <mjec> tws7: so that shows all the drives you'd expect? That's good. Now "cat /etc/fstab"... you should see /home in the second column somewhere
[05:36] <mjec> tws7: track that back and see what's in the first column. is that device showing as valid in fdisk?
[05:36] <tws7> lemme check
[05:37] <xgpt> hello
[05:37] <xgpt> anyone here?
[05:37] <tws7> mjec, what do u mean by valid?
[05:38] <NewWorld> hi! | xgpt
[05:40] <enli> Hi, I have configured cron job to run nightly which runs (as verified by simple echo to file), the only problem is that i would like it to be launched inside a terminal window. How do I do that?
[05:41] <aruntomar> enli: y do u need it to run in terminal?
[05:42] <enli> aruntomar: i just need to see the output, actually its a rsync job to update daily builds of 10.4 cd
[05:43] <aruntomar> enli: you can redirect the outut to a file to see the progress and have a record of it
[05:44] <enli> yes that is fine, if launching command inside terminal is possible, i would prefer that
[05:45] <aruntomar> enli: basically cron runs the commands or scripts in a subshell
[05:46] <enli> aruntomar: i see, it is meant to be run unattended.
[05:46] <aruntomar> enli: may be u can try the GUI approach as mentioned on this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[05:47] <enli> i have already configured and job runs fine
[05:48] <aruntomar> enli: the GUI way is define the DISPLAY variable for running the stuff
[05:49] <axisys> is there a tool to convert a doc file to txt ?
[05:49] <aruntomar> axisys: r u looking for some automated script?
[05:49] <Lostinspace_46> From the command line, using SVN, why do I get a list of files, rather than the files themselves?
[05:50] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: wht's the svn command u r using?
[05:50] <axisys> aruntomar: no .. one time convert
[05:50] <enli> aruntomar: env DISPLAY=:0 didnt work, but job run fine :S
[05:51] <tws7> makdotgnu, hae u done - sudo apt-get install ruby?
[05:51] <tws7> *have
[05:51] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, From the tut   "svn co https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net:/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/SphinxTrain"
[05:51] <axisys> aruntomar: i dont understand why people send me a unix script as a word doc
[05:51] <tws7> makdotgnu, if not do it...
[05:51] <enli> aruntomar: ah wait, didnt read troublshooting part for 9.10
[05:53] <makdotgnu> tws7: yes i did sudo apt-get install ruby
[05:53] <aruntomar> enli: ok, so redirection should work for u
[05:53] <aruntomar> axisys: open the doc file with openoffice, copy the content and save them to a text file
[05:54] <axisys> aruntomar: found antiword does it reallly fast
[05:54] <makdotgnu> tws7: hey I tried again  but it is installed 1.8
[05:54] <makdotgnu> and I need ruby 1.9
[05:54] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, From the tut   "svn co https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net:/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/SphinxTrain"
[05:54] <axisys> aruntomar: it was about 2000 lines .. so copy would took me a while.. but thanks for the hint
[05:55] <hihowareyou> how do I enable wireless from desktop? it doesnt appear on my HD for some reason "my network connections"
[05:58] <pepper_haze> whats the channel for off topic unbuntu chat?
[06:00] <shift_wreck> anyone familiar with xkeycaps?
[06:00] <Lostinspace_46> pepper_haze ubuntu-offtopic
[06:01] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, Marginally
[06:02] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, trying to swap some keys with xkeycaps and it doesnt have a keyboard layout that matches my kb
[06:02] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: where ever u ran the svn command a folder by the name of SphinxTrain would have created, and all the files should be there
[06:02] <shift_wreck> any ideas where i might find one or how to creat one?
[06:03] <SandGorgon> anybody know of any decent epub reader for Ubuntu (not calibre which needs QT)
[06:03] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Thanks, I'll check that out
[06:03] <obadiah> My harddrive has a
[06:03] <katesmith> i have installed wubi ubutuntu on my computer and dont know how to access the files that i have on windows vista from wubi ubuntu?  is there a way to access the files and programs of mine?  i need help with this, i dont have any knowledge about this at all, please help me with this?
[06:04] <Out_Cold_> if i wanted to run a script on several remote scripts, I'm wondering if I can use the script to log in via ssh, run the commands, then log out while still doing the scripts. how do i close out without losing the rest of the script?
[06:04] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, I did all that with xbindkeys-config
[06:04] <Out_Cold_> ** remote machines
[06:04] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, ok thanks
[06:05] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, It doesnt matter the layout
[06:05] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, wubi is kind of a mess for installs. is there an otion to mount your windows drive in the places menu?
[06:05] <Out_Cold_> *option
[06:05] <katesmith> no
[06:06] <aruntomar> Out_Cold_: either copy the script on the remote machines and run them via ssh
[06:06] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, You set each key to what you want
[06:06] <Out_Cold_> aruntomar, but if i run them from a remote shell and log out, does it not kill the processes that i started?
[06:06] <katesmith> Out_Cold_ i cant even find the files at all when i do boot on wubi ubuntu
[06:06] <katesmith> i cant find the files to windows vista
[06:07] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, im familiar with xbindkeys. i just would like to do it with xmodmap
[06:07] <jonrafkind> with the netbook remix, how do I get rid of the main menu thing
[06:07] <katesmith> i am really dissappointed about this whole thing
[06:07] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, possibly because the drive is not mounted. can you open a terminal and run the command:  mount
[06:07] <obadiah> My harddrive has a sda1 as boot partition, sda2 as swap partition, and sda3 for data. Which partition contains the root file system?
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, don't let that discourage you. when people try for the first time there are always things that are not expected
[06:08] <rifter> obadiah, df -h will tellyou
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Out_Cold_, i could be wrong, but i don't think you can access the windows side of things from inside of WUBI - it isn't like a regular install
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> ZykoticK9, could be right..
[06:08] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, xmodemap is fine if you dont want to set a key to launch a prog
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> never tried wubi
[06:08] <indus> obadiah, yeah df -h in a terminal
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, wubi is not a real install
[06:09] <Out_Cold_> wubi is like a try before you 'buy' demo
[06:09] <obadiah> rifter and indus, thanks!
[06:09] <Flannel> Out_Cold_: Wubi is a real install.
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flanne: hibernation is not possible inside wubi installation
[06:10] <katesmith> how would i be able to get a real install?
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flanne: (I think)  :-)
[06:10] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, i have an existing xmodmaprc that is fairly complex. i just wanted to tweek it more.
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flannel: hibernation is not possible inside wubi installation
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flannel: (I think)  :-)
[06:10] <Flannel> katesmith: Is the wubi install relatively new?
[06:10] <lokpest> I have both flash 9 and 10 installed, konqueror uses 9, how do I link so that it uses 10?
[06:11] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, the best way in my opinion is a persistent usb or a live cd.. and with a few commands all your files are accessible
[06:11] <Flannel> katesmith: (there's a way to do it either way, but if its new, you're better of just installing fresh, if it's not, you can migrate the wubi install)
[06:11] <katesmith> Out_Cold_ do you know of where i can go to get the real install of it ?
[06:11] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, I believe that as well as command line, you can edit the xmodmaprc file
[06:13] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, how did you install the wubi? with cd?
[06:13] <katesmith> okay how do i get a live cd to do a full install of it ?
[06:13] <katesmith> yes with cd
[06:13] <katesmith> i downloaded and made a cd
[06:13] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, yep
[06:13] <Out_Cold_> Flannel, can you mount drives from inside wubi? like her windows parts?
[06:14] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, quite possibly the same cd does a full install...
[06:15] <lokpest> noone that can answer my question above?
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> katesmith, Out_Cold_ it is possible "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How do I access the Windows drives?" < don't thing the link will work with the spaces
[06:16] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Did you mean the folder will be in whatever directory I am in, in the terminal?
[06:16] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: yes
[06:16] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: the list that u see is the list of files that were downloaded to that folder
[06:17] <Out_Cold_> there katesmith, read ZykoticK9's link..
[06:17] <Out_Cold_> and no white space ruins the hypertext
[06:17] <aruntomar> lokpest: konqueror might have the flash installed in it's on directory, most possibly ~/.konqueror/
[06:17] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Well...DUH!  I was in the sphinxtrain dir.  Kinda explains things.  Thanks again
[06:18] <aruntomar> lokpest: how did u install both the flash player versions
[06:19] <Out_Cold_> so if i run a process in bg does it stop when i terminate the remote shell?
[06:19] <pinkpanther> does anyone use gnome do?
[06:19] <lokpest> aruntomar: dont really know since it was ages ago, but I think 9 was from the repostories and 10 from adobes web
[06:20] <pinkpanther> i need help with gnomedo
[06:23] <pinkpanther> can someone help me?
[06:23] <aruntomar> lokpest: flash player is basically a .so file, remove it from the konqeror folder
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> pinkpanther, could you state for the channel what you are having difficulty with?
[06:23] <pinkpanther> gnomedo
[06:24] <pinkpanther> I dont want it to show open windows
[06:24] <pinkpanther> I just want it to display shortcuts
[06:26] <BryanWB> what file(s) in /etc configure upstart?
[06:26] <Thundarr> man, konversation really goes nuts with the default color scheme. heh
[06:26] <pinkpanther> what can i do
[06:27] <Tully> http://buffer0verflow.com/?p=71
[06:27] <pinkpanther> i hate all the docks for ubuntu
[06:27] <lokpest> aruntomar: right, but I dont find any ~/.konqueror/ so I guessed it be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/ but no .so file there
[06:28] <pinkpanther> why wont they do what i want
[06:28] <pinkpanther> if i have a windows open it displays on the task bar naturay so why the hell would I want it on the dock too?
[06:28] <pinkpanther> GRRRRRRRRR
[06:29] <pinkpanther> they need to make rocketdock for ubuntu
[06:30] <kukoc> kukoc
[06:31] <aruntomar> lokpest: use the find or locate command to the find the libflashplayer.so file
[06:33] <lokpest> aruntomar: k, one hit in /usr/lib/ and one in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:34] <Gnea> pinkpanther: there's already one for E17
[06:34] <thenetduck> hey when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> thenetduck, 49 days from today
[06:35] <thenetduck> woot
[06:35] <Gnea> thenetduck: always on the 4th and 10th month of every year
[06:35] <aruntomar> lokpest: remove whatever flash plugins u find, install the new version
[06:35] <pinkpanther> :(
[06:35] <thenetduck> next one is LTS right?
[06:35] <rsk> !lts
[06:35] <indus> just 49 days hmm when is beta 1
[06:35] <aruntomar> thenetduck: yes
[06:36] <thenetduck> that's exciting.
[06:36] <Gnea> indus: when it's released.
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> indus, 7 days from today
[06:36] <rsk> indus 03-18
[06:36] <alazyworkaholic> Hi, I'd really appreciate any help to avoid having to reinstall ubuntu. I tried to get a laptop modem to work (conexant) & it was okay for a while but then the sound died. The audio management applet says that there's only a dummy audio device now. I removed the linixant audio driver & I think I put back what used to be there, but it doesn't work. I want to reinstall anything related to audio & related config files. Is t
[06:36] <indus> rsk, wohoo
[06:36] <rsk> is the date for beta 1
[06:36] <indus> who cares, i already have alpha 3 :P
[06:37] <lokpest> I found it funny that Kubuntu Hardy wasnt supposed to be LTS but its still supported because Canonical didnt think they could remove all kde apps from the repositories and kubuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories
[06:37] <Zenker> hello everyone, i am ready to install ubuntu on its own partition, but vista's disk manager is only offering 72 mb when i attempt to shirnk its allocated space, i have a 100gb hd (WDC WD 1200EVT-75CT20ATA Device) actually, it reports its a 111.79 gb hd but whatever--anyhow what do i need to do? oh, it has 59.3gb of data on it
[06:38] <lokpest> so i practise kubuntu hardy is still active and therefore an LTS in practise
[06:38] <lokpest> lol
[06:38] <Gnea> lokpest: any official ubuntu distribution shares the same repository
[06:38] <lokpest> Gnea: know. but Canonical said kubuntu hardy was only going to have normal lifetime and not be LTS
[06:39] <lokpest> but... the made asses of themself :D
[06:40] <indus> yeah so which one was kubuntu LTS?
[06:42] <chetnick> is it just me or evince work way better than adobe reader? It's light/fast and way better on resource consumption.
[06:42] <lokpest> lol
[06:42] <jenia> hello everyone
[06:43] <ralph> hi
[06:43] <CactusWiZaRd> hello
[06:43] <lokpest> of cource it works better, its free software
[06:43] <jenia> i would like to start a process from the shell, but would like to close the shell after
[06:43] <chetnick> lokpest: what do you mean by free?
[06:43] <lokpest> chetnick: free as in freedom
[06:43] <jenia> is there a way to do it? For example, bash process
[06:43] <chetnick> lokpest: free software can mean different things.
[06:43] <preposteruss> anyone mind aiding in getting my wireless to work, the card is showing up in ifconfig, it's an unsecured network and i can't get on, it works on my other machine
[06:43] <spartan07> Zenker: are you doing the re partitioning from the install process of ubuntu or in Vista?
[06:44] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  chetnick
[06:44] <Zenker> spartan07: vista's disk manager
[06:44] <lokpest> chetnick: not really in this comunity, here its referded to freedom, no price
[06:44] <lokpest> not*
[06:45] <awan> awan
[06:45] <ralph> query:  i'm partitioning my hard-drive, do i really need to have a swap-file? i have 4gigs ram, seems redundant
[06:46] <spartan07> best thing to do is run defrag to lump together your windows data towards the beginning of the drive and then do the partition of linux during the install when you run the installer
[06:47] <chetnick> lokpest:  I know what does it mean, i just didn't know we were on the same page, because i had experience in the past where people are referring to "free" as "free of charge".
[06:47] <spartan07> Zenker: after you run the installer and fire up vista it will go through a check because the drive size was changed no big deal let it do it and your good
[06:47] <lokpest> chetnick: in here? depressing
[06:48] <awan> i have trouble to install wifi on dell inspiron 1410, there any one can help me?
[06:48] <Zenker> oh yeah, i should have done a defrag *smacking my forehead*, btw do you play combat arms?
[06:48] <spartan07> Zenker: When you install Ubuntu, the installer will default to sharing your drive with vista and add M$ to your grub menu
[06:48] <sprockets4> Geez, why google why, anyone happen to have a google voice invite, I dont know why they have to do this invite system again like when google first came out
[06:49] <MrSiebel1> My ubuntu bind9 package is broken anyone give me some ideas on fixing it?
[06:49] <ralph> query:  i'm partitioning my hard-drive, do i really need to have a swap-file? i have 4gigs ram, seems redundant
[06:49] <Zenker> where can i read up on that?
[06:49] <chetnick> ralph: you mean swap partition?
[06:50] <ralph> yes :P
[06:50] <MrSiebel1> bind9 anyone?
[06:50] <SolarisBoy> tinydns ;>
[06:50]  * lokpest binds MrSiebel1
[06:50] <lokpest> :P
[06:50] <Zenker> nvm i can find it, i should have read up on it in the 1st place :0!
[06:50] <spartan07> try ubuntu forums
[06:50] <chetnick> ralph: you must have swap, but in your case you dont have to make it 4x2, 4GB would be sufficient.
[06:50] <ralph> when i did a simple install of ubuntu it set my swap partition at 12gigs, seemed like a huge waste
[06:50] <preposteruss> i can see the ssid on my machine, it tries to connect but will not, i have 2 other devices that can connect fine to my network
[06:50] <MrSiebel1> My bind9 package is broken any ideas?
[06:50] <Gnea> MrSiebel1: are you sure it's broken?
[06:51] <Zenker> but 4 real, do you play combat arms? sparton07?
[06:51] <MrSiebel1> Every time I load synaptic or do apt-get update it says bind9 package broken
[06:51] <ralph> thanks Chetnick!
[06:51] <spartan07> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:51] <MrSiebel1> Yup its broken
[06:51] <chetnick> ralph: you dont need 12GB.... 4GB is enough.
[06:51] <crazy2k_> Hello. Just a quick question. If I have a CD with xubuntu, and try to install using Wubi from Windows, will Wubi use the data in the CD for the installation, or it needs to get something from the Internet?
[06:51] <ralph> thanks :)
[06:52] <spartan07> Zenker: no heard things about it though
[06:52] <ralph> oh another question if you don't mind.  swap partition needs to be placed at the end of the drive correct?
[06:52] <ralph> and OS at the front?
[06:52] <Zenker> i was askin because there a player wit the same name, guess its just a coinsidance
[06:52] <Zenker> anyhow thatnk you
[06:53] <spartan07> Zenker: CD4, HALO3, Fallout3,
[06:53] <spartan07> Zenker: NP
[06:54] <MrSiebel1> I updated my system via dist-upgrade... stoopid me it broke my bind9 package
[06:54] <chetnick> ralph: you can put it on the beginning or at the end.
[06:54] <Losha> MrSiebel1: you won't get much help till you explain what you mean by "broken"....
[06:55] <Losha> ralph: or in the middle, really doesn't matter with modern distros...
[06:55] <chetnick> ralph: there might be some performance difference.
[06:55] <pshr_> how to know the event ID
[06:55] <ralph> hmm, ok
[06:55] <pshr_> say for mouse
[06:55] <pshr_> what is the event id
[06:55] <pshr_> I need to set this
[06:55] <pshr_> Option         "Device" "/dev/input/event10"
[06:56] <preposteruss> anyone mind helping with my wireless issue? I can see the SSID and try to connect but it wont
[06:57] <e04mk> does tail -f /var/log/syslog say anything about any problems while connecting to your network?
[06:57] <bleck> anyone here from australia that could run a test for me?
[06:58] <spartan07> preposteruss: Desktop or laptop?
[06:59] <preposteruss> laptop
[06:59] <preposteruss> old 2wire card in it
[07:00] <preposteruss> i see association request to the driver failed
[07:00] <SpringHerself> I have a terribly newbish, stupid question: Does Ubuntu have anything like a force-quit keyboard command, like control-alt-delete in Windows?
[07:00] <preposteruss> it worked out of the box on previous ubuntu versions though
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, alt+sysrq+k will restart Xorg
[07:01] <spartan07> SpringHerself: for an app or X?
[07:01] <Losha> SpringHerself: not stupid at all, http://tazbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/magic-sysrq-key.html
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, sorry disregard my message (don't try it!)
[07:01] <preposteruss> spartan07: so i need to load the modules for my card right?
[07:02] <SpringHerself> I'm not sure, but websites sometimes cause my computer to freeze up, trying to see if there's something I can do to so I don't have to reboot.
[07:02] <spartan07> SpringHerself: for an app you can add an icon to the panel to force quit an app
[07:02] <hihowareyou> hello
[07:02] <DPic> i'm trying to boot to a USB via GRUB and i'm almost there but i'm still running into some errors
[07:02] <DPic> anyone thing they could help?
[07:02] <indus> SpringHerself, probably flash
[07:02] <e04mk> do you known what modules where loaded for that card on previous versions of ubuntu?
[07:02] <SpringHerself> Huh, okay. Also, thanks Losha, that looks helpful
[07:03] <indus> SpringHerself, or probably  a bad website
[07:03] <spartan07> preposteruss: yes. whats the make of the card and your laptop?
[07:03] <rob_p> SpringHerself: From the command prompt, you can type, "xkill" then click the app you want killed.
[07:03] <lokpest> ah, fuck it, why sjould I even use flash, I could watch youtube with mplayer-plugin instead
[07:03] <Losha> SpringHerself: the whole computer freezes, or just the browser?
[07:04] <preposteruss> the card is a pcmcia card, the laptop is a old sony vaio pcg-gr370
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> !language > lokpest
[07:04] <SpringHerself> Whole computer.
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> lokpest, if you install chromium or chrome you can go to youtube.com/html5 and use HTML5 video instead of flash - doesn't work on all videos
[07:04] <preposteruss> the device shows in iwconfig and ifconfig, i think the wrong modules are loaded
[07:05] <Losha> SpringHerself: to be honest, that's usually a hardware issue. Check your ram (run memtest overnight)...
[07:05] <e04mk> run lsmod | grep orinoco and print the output here
[07:05] <SpringHerself> I'm running this on a netbook, so it's easily possible. :p Thank you for all your advice, this should help.
[07:05] <lokpest> ZykoticK9: requires propritary h.264 codec so no thanks
[07:06] <JEEBsv> flash is proprietary too o_O So you'd be using proprietary stuff anyways
[07:06] <ZykoticK9> lokpest, is flash opensource?  i don't think so...
[07:06] <JEEBsv> also, at youtube you'd end up watching H.264 anyways
[07:06] <JEEBsv> :3
[07:07] <preposteruss> e04mk:was that directed to me?
[07:07] <JEEBsv> (and not like VP6* was any better on the licensing side)
[07:07] <lokpest> ZykoticK9: nope, but I wanted to change, then it doesnt make sense to change from one non-free thing to anothre
[07:08] <lokpest> JEEBsv: that is what I am critizing, why cant google use theora...
[07:08] <JEEBsv> lokpest: Well, you _do_ know the compression difference, right?
[07:08] <lokpest> so that firefox user can watch without having to pay
[07:08] <rahduke> i lost the ability to drag and drop, whether moving things folder to folder, folder to desktop, drag and drop from archive, I can't even move things around on my desktop.... can anyone help me out. It makes no sense
[07:09] <lokpest> JEEBsv: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/video/ytcompare/comparison.html
[07:09] <e04mk> @preposteruss yep, it was
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> rahduke, are you running inside a virtual machine?
[07:09] <rahduke> ZykoticK9: no sir
[07:09] <preposteruss> ok im on another machine
[07:09] <lokpest> JEEBsv: the difference in quality is not that big
[07:09] <preposteruss> it came back with some things
[07:09] <rahduke> ZykoticK9: its actually my buddy, im talking to him on skype
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> rahduke, no idea then - i have that problem in VBox with 3D turned on for Lucid guests.  best of luck man.
[07:10] <JEEBsv> lokpest: it is. Also, theora is much slower at encoding than, say, x264. But don't misunderstand me, I'm _not_ against a free standard to be in HTML5 :P
[07:10] <JEEBsv> That comparison has been abused way too much
[07:10] <preposteruss> i see orinoco_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nostatic at the end
[07:10] <preposteruss> non_static
[07:11] <preposteruss> there's more
[07:11] <lokpest> JEEBsv: I dont think the problem is as much the standard as the webmasters that host content
[07:12] <e04mk> at least it's good it's not using ndiswrapper
[07:12] <preposteruss> yeah you don't have to with this card
[07:12] <JEEBsv> lokpest: at least you don't believe that Theora > H.264's good usage cases :)
[07:13] <e04mk> I think you had to in hardy and earlier, but I'm not shure.. =)
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:13] <indus> yes hello
[07:14] <preposteruss> e04mk: it worked out of the box before with ubuntu
[07:14] <preposteruss> and it half works now
[07:14] <preposteruss> i can see the network, just cant connect
[07:15] <floppyears> hi guys
[07:15] <floppyears> I need to install gcc-3.3 in ubuntu karmic
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: if you boot to the older releases you can compare configs
[07:15] <floppyears> what are my options?
[07:15] <JEEBsv> lokpest: also, as a final comment -- Youtube was actually using x264 from circa 2005-2006 at that time ;)
[07:15] <floppyears> I know that is a really old version of gcc, but nothing good has come up from a google search
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[07:16] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: i just dug this comp out of the closet and put a new hd in it, i don't have the older releases
[07:16] <akorpija> anybody here know how i could extract a DVD (that's been burned as an iso)?
[07:16] <akorpija> just copy/paste?
[07:16] <floppyears> ActionParsnip: are you saying that it's best to compile gcc-3.3 from code?
[07:16] <akorpija> i want to edit a file on it, and then reburn it as an iso
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Floppyears; you may find a deb with the older version. Surely they are backward compatible?
[07:16] <sburwood> When I try to scan a document, I am offered two things  ; first of all I'm offered a USB camera with v4l and also my scanner.  How can I tell xsane to just look for my scanner?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Floppyears: you could compile, ot maybe find a ppa. Its gonna take effort though
[07:17] <lokpest> JEEBsv: well, google could do this: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtube/
[07:18] <preposteruss> should i just ndiswrapper it
[07:18] <mjsor> networking question on 9.10.  I've noticed that my network (wireless) isn't enabled until I log in under GNOME (or KDE).  I want networking enabled when I login under an alternative environment.  Any way to get it to just be up from boot regardless of the desktop environment?
[07:18] <Losha> floppyears: why gcc-3.3 ?
[07:18] <Tully> mjsor, change the runlevel
[07:18] <celthunder> mjsor, add a network startup script to /etc/init.d
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: bah. If you run: sudo lshw -C network ,websearch for the product line. You could try using wicd instead. Use a different connection if you can to get fully updated
[07:19] <JEEBsv> lokpest: granted -- that would be better than Theora, and probably better than MPEG-4 ASP even. But it still IIRC was not in a very much working state at the moment of the deal IIRC. They didn't even release a version for testing :3 Also, I have a good article that has all kinds of things about digital video on the 'web
[07:19] <JEEBsv> lokpest: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=292
[07:19] <JEEBsv> :3
[07:20] <SpringHerself> Oh, I have another silly question: How do you tell what directory a file is in? (Does that just mean the set of folders it's in?)
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, directory and folder mean the same thing
[07:21] <SpringHerself> Oh, phew. Thanks.
[07:22] <viliny> Hey! - Is it possible to move a Ubuntu/Linux installation from a virtualbox environement and use that on a physical computer later on? Im guessing it suffers far less than a windows installation with all it's...things dependant on hardware setup.
[07:23] <lokpest> proprietary software should be baned
[07:23] <viliny> Possible or impossible? Feasible or not?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> viliny: not without a lot of tears. I'd ask in #vbox
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> !ot | lokpest
[07:23] <viliny> Thanks ActionParsnip
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: use the clone factoid to clone the packages
[07:24] <jenia> is someone here using ubuntu 9.10?
[07:24] <viliny> Clone factoid? a tool ment to reproduce stuff or?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: you can backup your home folder and use that once a proper install has taken place
[07:24] <viliny> jenia: most likely
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[07:25] <karma_police> i just installed virtualbox from the website but i cannot find it in my applications list
[07:25] <jenia> when you click on netwrok/connect to hidden wireless networks/ and then you choose an already existing network
[07:25] <viliny> Ah nice ActionParsnip - will have to have a look at that.
[07:25] <jenia> i cannot press anything else after that except to choose another network and cancel
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: its on the repo. You can add an item there using alacarte
[07:25] <viliny> karma_police: vbox exists in the repositories as well, might be a lot less painfull
[07:26] <jenia> it says enter name and security details
[07:26] <jenia> but i cannot do that, becuase the field is unaccessible
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: I seem to recallthe launch command being Virtualbox and not virtualbox. Check into that first
[07:26] <karma_police> i tried the repo one.. its not the latest.. i was trying to run 10.4 on it but it fails
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, you can start it from terminal or alt+f2 - VirtualBox (notice that capitals)
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: fair deal
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> im so happy with 9.10
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> jenia: is it greyed out or just off the screen?
[07:27] <jenia> geryed out
[07:28] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: does sshd install with xubuntu ?
[07:28] <jenia> i can enter a new copy of that network and connect easily
[07:28] <karma_police> alt f2 works.. is there a way to put that version in the applications list?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Jenia: weird. Are there any bugs reported for this?
[07:28] <jenia> i havent found
[07:28] <mint> hi i have a live usb of ubuntu 9.10 can i create a save file like puppy for it
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: no its optional: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:28] <preposteruss> gah
[07:29] <jenia> where is actually that site where there is an aggregate of bugs repors for ubuntu?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: use alacarte
[07:29] <preposteruss> gotta go sneak in the living room to the router
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, next time you login check under Applications / System Tools / Sun Virtualbox
[07:29] <jenia> you know?
[07:29] <preposteruss> moms got dad in the doghouse and he's on the couch
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: if its web facing I suggest you change the port it uses for security
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> !bug | jenia
[07:30] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: thanks i never thought of that i will start on my other machines
[07:30] <indus> its difficult to find package names though
[07:30] <jenia> thanks
[07:30] <karma_police> thats working.. 10.4 won't load in the repo version of vb.. i had to dl 3.1.4.. may be because i am running amd64?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Mint: you can save to the casperrw you created when you made the usb bootable with the OS. Its part of the procedure
[07:31] <mint> act how i used unetbootin
[07:31] <mint> ^ ActionParsnip
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: should be fine. You could add the vbox ppa so you get updates
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Mint: not sure, why don't you ask the channel instead of straight at me
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Mint: if I can reply I will
[07:32] <karma_police> how do i do that?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !unetbootin
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: use websearches to find the ppa. My web is painfully slow on my phone (save battery)
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, instructions are on the download page http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, technically it's a repository and not a PPA
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: when the devs update the ppa you will get updated too
[07:34] <mint> hi i have a live usb of ubuntu 9.10 can i create a save file like puppy for it
[07:34] <mint> ActionParsnip: i have been
[07:34] <karma_police> ok.. i got it now.. ty:)
[07:34] <justin_> Does anyone know anything about download rates going from 1.3mbps down to around 50kbps and then back up and down? Im using an intel 3945abg wireless card with ipv6 disabled and iwl3945 driver.
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Mint: you creat the rw file when you create the usb stick as bootable
[07:35] <lokpest> ah... Canonical has jumped the shark, better swith to Debian...
[07:35] <mint> i want to save to hdd like puppy
[07:35] <rioch> I've set up a vncserver on my home server, and I can log in fine. I have a problem however: if I log on to the server, I go directly to the desktop. If I logout, it doesn't go to the gdm loging. Instead the panel and all my app disappear, leaving just the desktop wallpaper
[07:38] <Razvan1310> hello
[07:39] <nimrod10> !ubbotu support
[07:39] <nimrod10> !support
[07:39] <Razvan1310> can someone help me
[07:39] <Razvan1310> !help
[07:40] <Razvan1310> how can i install win32 codecs to ubunru
[07:40] <mint> Razvan1310: um Wine application
[07:41] <mint> 6 wine should have win32 codexes
[07:41] <llutz> Razvan1310: visit medibuntu.org
[07:42] <Razvan1310> no wine
[07:42] <nimrod10> Razvan1310, what do you need them for ? movies ?
[07:42] <Razvan1310> yes movies
[07:42] <harisund> Anyone here has experience with dnsmasq? Do you know how to handle stuff when there are 2 interfaces for dnsmasq to serve data on?
[07:42] <Razvan1310> i cant see movies like mkv avi
[07:42] <Razvan1310> a lot of movies
[07:42] <nimrod10> have you tried smplayer or vlc they seem to work with almost every format there is
[07:42] <q_> razvan try install VLC player
[07:42] <Razvan1310> and a dvd player like power dvd
[07:43] <nimrod10> Razvan1310, you can see dvd's fine with movie player
[07:43] <Razvan1310> VLC PLAYER
[07:43] <q_> yes
[07:43] <q_> it  has all you need
[07:43] <nimrod10> for me it is either vlc or smplayer, what doesn't work on one works on the other
[07:44] <Razvan1310> that vlc and smplayer see alll bluray
[07:44] <Razvan1310> ?
[07:44] <Razvan1310> hd
[07:44] <llutz> smplayer is just a frontend to mplayer, it also needs external codecs unlike vlc
[07:44] <Razvan1310> does it loads subtitle
[07:44] <Beaver> www.search2.net a new search engine
[07:44] <nimrod10> I haven't tried blueray, yes it does subtitles
[07:45] <Razvan1310> in windows i use magic iso to mount dvd movies and power dvd to seee them
[07:45] <Razvan1310> how can i do that in ubuntu
[07:45] <Razvan1310> to mount an iso i know
[07:46] <llutz> Razvan1310: mplayer -dvd-device yourfile.iso dvd://1
[07:46] <rsk> Razvan1310 play with MPlayer or VLC
[07:46] <nimrod10> for movie take a look at this Razvan1310 : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html
[07:46] <harisund> Anyone know how to run multiple instances of dnsmasq on Ubuntu?
[07:46] <ralph> i have another partitioning question if someone would be so kind
[07:47] <mint> Ravm: use a movie player
[07:47] <Razvan1310> is mkdir /home/user/iso or any other patition and then that command mount -t iso9600 isoimage.iso /home/user/iso
[07:47] <mint> !movie
[07:47] <mint> !dvd
[07:47] <ralph> when creating the /home partition is it a logical or a primary? i assume logical
[07:47] <mint> ^ Razvan1310
[07:47] <llutz> ralph: up to you, makes no difference
[07:47] <Razvan1310> yes
[07:47] <exn> hey guys ! does anybody else have a problem with gim 2.6 in 9.10 ? there not possible to select a layer , it changes it back when i'm realising the mouse button.
[07:48] <Razvan1310> lol
[07:48] <llutz> ralph: but due to the limitation to 4 primary-partitions, you  should prefer using logical-drives for all
[07:48] <Razvan1310> my browser do not work again
[07:50] <ralph> thanks llutz for the response
[07:50] <ralph> i assume though that the OS partition should be primary type though right?
[07:50] <llutz> ralph: no, works with logical too
[07:50] <Razvan1310> lol other internet connections are down but irc connection still works
[07:50] <Razvan1310> :)))
[07:51] <ralph> perhaps i've misunderstood the difference then
[07:51] <ralph> so really they should all be logical?
[07:51] <llutz> ralph: linux doesn't need primary partitions at all
[07:51] <ralph> what's a primary type partition then?
[07:51] <ralph> i see
[07:51] <llutz> (except that one extended holding the logical drive of course)
[07:52] <ralph> ok, thanks llutz!
[07:52] <_KAMI_> Hi!
[07:52] <_KAMI_> Let me know how to set back the window controls to their original place
[07:53] <rahduke> if i wanted to put a new HDD in my computer and ghost the HDD that holds my OS can i do that?
[07:54] <llutz> rahduke: only linux? then better clone it using rsync/cp or tar
[07:55] <rahduke> llutz: what do you mean? i want to create an exact copy of my linux OS partition bootloader and all on another HDD
[07:56] <llutz> rahduke: to copy linux-installations it is better to use rsync/tar or cp than ghost/dd/whatever
[07:56] <viliny> what is alacarte?
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> viliny, menu editor
[07:57] <viliny> oh im sorry, had the chat scrolled way up, no longer relevant to current discussion :) Thanks ZykoticK9
[07:58] <libero> hi
[07:58] <papul> part/[
[07:59] <rioch> how do I get my computer to shutdown if the power switch is pressed?
[08:00] <mealstrom> it will shutdown in 1 minute by default
[08:01] <mealstrom> and if you wans something to change use power manager
[08:01] <mealstrom> system-> settings
[08:01] <phani> hi.. i have a software called pwsafe installed on hardy.. could you please let me know how to open it ? its under /usr/bin/pwsafe
[08:01] <phani> and the file type is LSB executable
[08:01] <phani> any suggestions how i need to open ?
[08:05] <rioch> mealstrom: at the moment I don't even get the popup. In power manager, at least by vnc, there is no option to shut down when the button is pressed: only suspend and hibernate.
[08:07] <phani> rioch: i'm not very good in linux but if you want to shutdown the computer may be you can try by typing init0 in terminal that's all i know
[08:07] <indus> rioch, try alt-sysrq-b
[08:07] <harisund> AH .. I have a serious problem. I have 2 interfaces, eth1 and eth2 that I want to serve DHCP addresses out of, different subnets. Can't I run 2 DHCP servers at once, like dnsmasq and udhcpd ??
[08:07] <rioch> phani: I'm running a headless server, which I want to shutdown just by pressing the power button. It has no keyboard/mouse/monitor :)
[08:08] <phani> oh! ok may be i missed that part
[08:11] <airtonix> rioch, why not suspend or hibernate it instead ?
[08:12] <rioch> airtonix: if I cannot login and need to restart, it offers a simpler option than plugging in a keyboard/monitor/mouse
[08:12] <airtonix> rioch, via ssh i mean
[08:13] <airtonix> rioch, regadless your solution is to create a dbus script that listens for the hardware switch event and simply shuts  the machine down
[08:13] <rioch> airtonix: the server is being used to stream music, so my girlfriend also needs to be able to shut it down. If I tell her she needs to ssh into it and tell it to shutdown, she will probably dump me
[08:13] <llutz> rioch: acpi-support should react on pwrbtn
[08:13] <rioch> llutz: yes. there is an event for it. nothing seems to happen though.
[08:15] <airtonix> rioch, this will give you an idea of how to suspend/hibernate the machine via dbus... i think there is similar dbus interfaces to manipulate the power on/off : http://paste.ubuntu.com/393873/
[08:16] <rioch> thanks. strange I have to do this myself. Don't you find it strange that this isn't an option somewhere?
[08:16] <airtonix> rioch, what you should do in the mean time is check if : running "dbus-monitor --system" via ssh shows any output when you press the power button on the server
[08:17] <razor2_> howdy
[08:17] <airtonix> rioch, my suspcion is that if you don't have that option in the gui then something about your hardware is either not supported or you have missing hal packages ... who knows
[08:17] <razor2_> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[08:17] <razor2_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[08:17] <razor2_> 'E:Type 'rm' is not known on line 53 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[08:18] <razor2_> i am trying to run the update installer
[08:18] <razor2_> any help?
[08:19] <llutz> razor2_: sed -n '53,1p' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <anjilslaire> @raxzor2: what exactly are you trying to run/update?
[08:20] <razor2_> trying to install a package so that i have frostwire
[08:20] <razor2_> and thats the error i get
[08:21] <razor2_> rm   #we dont need it anymore, so conserve disk space
[08:21] <llutz> razor2_: delete that line, its a comment
[08:21] <razor2_> kk
[08:21] <llutz> razor2_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <anjilslaire> I think I missed the error message
[08:22] <golazo> what does sed do? don't get it
[08:22] <llutz> golazo: print line 53 of that file
[08:22] <golazo> ahhh, awesome ;) thanks
[08:22] <golazo> whats the .1p for?
[08:22] <llutz> 1 line
[08:23] <golazo> oh, I noticed its a ',' as well
[08:23] <golazo> nice
[08:23] <razor2_> getting permission denied
[08:23] <llutz> razor2_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <khafiz> guys, any know how to completedly remove my ubuntu?
[08:24] <khafiz> bcause i want to install new ubuntu 9.10
[08:24] <rsk> khafiz just upgrade then
[08:24] <llutz> khafiz:let the installer create a new filesystem on your partition
[08:24] <llutz> khafiz: no need to remove beofre
[08:25] <anjilslaire> agree with llutz
[08:25] <meowbuntu>  fihi how can i extract .lz files
[08:26] <razor2_> got it
[08:26] <anjilslaire> run thru the setup & format the partitions
[08:26] <llutz> meowbuntu: lzma -d foo.lz
[08:26] <razor2_> 'E:Type 'ELF' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[08:26] <khafiz> rsk: b4 this, i hv installed ubuntu on my system but since i sent my laptop for motherboard replacement. No more on my boot option.. it automatically work like factory setting
[08:27] <llutz> razor2_: you messed up your sources list, make sure all lines begin with "deb ", "deb-src" or "#"
[08:28] <khafiz> llutz: b4 this, i hv installed ubuntu on my system but since i sent my laptop for motherboard replacement. No more on my boot option.. it automatically work like factory setting
[08:28] <razor2_> is fixed thanks guys
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:29] <Tynice> !ops
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <FloodBot2> Tynice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <pawan> hi
[08:30] <khafiz> someone may help me with the installation of grub?
[08:30] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[08:30] <llutz> !grub > khafiz
[08:30] <pawan> !version
[08:31] <khafiz> and 1 mre thing. there is double installation of ubuntu on my system?
[08:31] <arctanx> Hopefully a simple question... does anybody know where I can find the setting to adjust gtk font sizes for running within KDE4?
[08:32] <khafiz> how am i going to remove one od them?
[08:32] <anjilslaire> what was that?
[08:32] <arctanx> Things like firefox have rather large menu fonts for my 10" screen.
[08:32] <llutz> arctanx: ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[08:32] <arctanx> llutz: Sounds promising, I'll find some docs. Cheers
[08:32] <anjilslaire> arctanx: I've got a 9" screen, lol
[08:33] <meowbuntu> llutz, i cant uncompress the .lz file with tht command
[08:34] <meowbuntu> llutz, it gives this error initrd.lz:  unknown suffix -- unchanged
[08:34] <jussi01> arctanx: if your in kde4, then system settings -> appearance -> gtk+ appearance
[08:36] <khafiz> anyone can guide on how to remove the ubuntu from my system. since i have double installed the ubuntu
[08:36] <llutz> #89310
[08:36] <llutz> ups
[08:36] <meowbuntu> hi how can i extract .lz files
[08:36] <llutz> meowbuntu: look at launchpad, bug 89310
[08:36] <arctanx> jussi01: Sadly I don't have have a "gtk+ appearance" widget in there
[08:37] <bbelt16ag> ear
[08:38] <llutz> arctanx: needs package "kde-config-gtk-style"
[08:38] <FireCrotch> meowbuntu: with "lzip" - it's not installed by default but it is in the repos
[08:40] <alabd>  installing php5 is enough to have php ?
[08:41] <arctanx> llutz: that package appears to be in debian, but not in ubuntu. Certainly not in the karmic main/restricted, universe, multiverse I have
[08:42] <llutz> !find kde-config
[08:43] <alabd> !php
[08:43] <arctanx> It looks like qtcurve or gtk2-engines-qtcurve might be what I need
[08:43] <awsten32> Can someone give me link about "Configuration Editor" ??!!
[08:44] <awsten32> helping me what is it !
[08:47] <alveraan> Hi there. I've got my python fckd up. The interpreter starts but all imports fail with an ImportError , even of modules in the standard library like array or socket. Using ubuntu server 9.10 x86. Any ideas?
[08:48] <blekos> hello, i have an external HD. In windows I could see the contents. I put it on linux I can see them. Then I put it back in windows but cannot see anything
[08:49] <rioch> how do I remove the 60 second time from shutdown at the gdm login screen? I've done it when I'm logged in, but it doesn't apply to the login screen.
[08:49] <Jayant> hellooooooooo.........someone please solve my problem....
[08:49] <abhi_nav> !someone | Jayant
[08:49] <meero> is anyone using MUTT?
[08:50] <Slart> meero: I think so, yes
[08:51] <giraffery> hello.. I have an APC InfrastruXure Manager appliance running some flavour of Linux - I have no idea what processor/architecture is running inside..
[08:51] <Jayant> does anybody know why does ubuntu live cd gives a permission denied error when i chose to "help me boot from cd" ??
[08:51] <bazhang> giraffery, ubuntu?
[08:51] <giraffery> I'd like to install Xubuntu over the top..
[08:51] <giraffery> nope, I can't tell what version it is..
[08:51] <bazhang> giraffery, does it boot from usb
[08:52] <Slart> giraffery: if you can get a terminal you could start by running "uname -a" .. perhaps it will at least tell you what kernel it is running
[08:52] <giraffery> I have *acquired* the appliance..
[08:52] <giraffery> no login - no boot from USB
[08:52] <giraffery> from my searching, I could not ID what processor it has (my searching is not exhaustive though)
[08:52] <Slart> Jayant: huh? I've never seen that option when booting from a ubuntu live cd.. it's plain regular ubuntu?
[08:53] <r389kj> how do i install radeon 3d drivers.  i think i have an old ati card.
[08:53] <Slart> !ati
[08:53] <Jayant> slart: i ran the live cd from windows. Clicked on Demo and full installation. and then there i got that option. Its used if u cannot boot from cd, it creates a boot entry for Ubuntu installation
[08:54] <r389kj> lspci | grep VGA
[08:54] <r389kj> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R481 [Radeon X850XT-PE]
[08:54] <r389kj> Slart, ^
[08:54] <Slart> Jayant: oh.. it's probably a wubi thing.. never used that so I can't really help you
[08:55] <Jayant> slart: thanks anyways does someone else know what the prob is ??
[08:55] <abhi_nav> Jayant: are you sure you want to install ubuntu inside windows and not on it separate partition?
[08:55] <Slart> r389kj: check the link from ubottu a couple of lines up... I think it might help you
[08:56] <Jayant> abhi_nav: i want to install it separately, therefore i chose to help me boot. Actually my sys doesnt boot from CD
[08:56] <abhi_nav> Jayant: why it dont boot from cd? have you enabled boot from cd in bios?
[08:56] <Jayant> abhi_nav: yes i did, but it doesnt even after that. It used to before, but when i got a new drive, it doesnt now
[08:57] <abhi_nav> Jayant: consider installing ubuntu from pen drive. so that you can boot as that of cd and install regularly. you create bootable usb from ubuntu live cd
[08:58] <Jayant> how do i boot from pd then. What file system should it be ???
[08:58] <bazhang> Jayant, look into unetbootin
[08:58] <Jayant> bazhang: whats that ???
[08:58] <abhi_nav> Jayant: first make sure that your computer supports boot from usb. go to bios and check is this is supported or not
[08:59] <bazhang> Jayant, something to create a live usb/installer usb key
[08:59] <Jayant> abhi_nav: how do i check that ?
[08:59] <Jayant> bazhang: can you please link me to its website ? THanks
[09:00] <bazhang> Jayant, you have windows on that computer now?
[09:00] <abhi_nav> Jayant: go to bios and in the section where "Enabe boot from cd" in that section only there will be one more option meaning - "Enable boot from usb devices(pen drive, usb hdd etc)
[09:00] <kHafiz> !grub
[09:00] <Jayant> bazhang: yes
[09:00] <Jayant> abhi_nav: ok thanks
[09:00] <abhi_nav> Jayant: hmm
[09:01] <bazhang> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ Jayant
[09:01] <Jayant> bazhang: if i copy all the contents of the disk into the PD, will it be bootable ??
[09:01] <Kartagis> if I install a package from source, will that break when I upgrade ubuntu?
[09:01] <Jayant> bazhang: Thanks
[09:01] <bazhang> Jayant, that is not how it works, you need something like unetbootin to write it for you
[09:02] <Jayant> bazhang, thanks a lot...
[09:02] <misterB> anyone know why evolution alarms sounds don't work?
[09:02] <bazhang> Jayant, if you check the link, there is a windows version as well
[09:02] <blekos> could you tell me how to fsck and external hd?
[09:02] <Jayant> bazhang: yeah, thanks
[09:05] <Slart> blekos: you can either do in a terminal.. run  "fsck /dev/sd??" where the ?? depends on what the device name is for the disk.. or use gparted and click your way to it
[09:08] <rioch> is there a shortcut key to bring up a terminal window?
[09:08] <Kartagis> how can I get thunderbird latest release?
[09:08] <kHafiz> someone can help me reinstall my grub?
[09:08] <Kartagis> 3.0.3
[09:08] <Slart> rioch: there's Alt+F2.. it's not really a terminal but it can get you one
[09:08] <blekos> thnx
[09:09] <kHafiz> the boot option doesnt appear on windows start
[09:09] <Plutonesh> oie
[09:09] <rioch> Slart: of course - im so stupid. thanks
[09:09] <Slart> rioch: you're welcome
[09:10] <rioch> Slart: how do I get the shortcut key to work in vncviewer? It bring up the run dialog for my local machine rather than the one I'm connected to.
[09:10] <Plutonesh> #natal
[09:11] <Slart> rioch: ah.. tricky.. I'm not sure.. some vnc clients have alternate keys for ctrl or shift to avoid this problems.. but it might depend on your client
[09:13] <antony> hi in my system while using chatting there is a light distortion
[09:13] <alexxio_> hi, how can i prevent mysql and apache for starting at startup? i want to make system boot lighter
[09:13] <p1gmale0n> hi all
[09:14] <p1gmale0n> need help.. how install x32 library on x64 version of system ??
[09:14] <dabukalam_> p1gmale0n: sudo dpkg -i <package> --force-architecture
[09:14] <dabukalam_> Hi, How can I disalow a certain service access to the internet between certain times?
[09:16] <zamba> i have a service i want to filter by using netfilter.. the service is running on a specific port and ip.. i want to set up an individual chain/table to easily add ips that i want to give access to this service.. how do i do this?
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, use the program "getlibs" forum post / link to download http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[09:17] <Uresu> Hi all, I run plymouth-set-default-theme [theme] and it doesn't update, even if I add --rebuild-initrd ..... any ideas?
[09:18] <ZykoticK9> Uresu, ask in #ubuntu+1 for any Lucid questions
[09:20] <llutz> dabukalam_: use a cronjob to dis-/enable the service at vertain times or de-/activate a iptables-rule at those times
[09:20] <llutz> certain
[09:21] <dabukalam_> llutz: i don't want to disable the service completely, just disallow it outgoing access
[09:22] <llutz> dabukalam_: then use a iptables rule or if possible restart your service with different config
[09:22] <dabukalam_> !iptables
[09:23] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: i'm run getlibs <path_to_bin-file> and getlibs install firefox-2 =)) but it not help ..
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: $ ldd /opt/fms/fmsmaster
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> 	libnspr4.so => not found
[09:24] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, then use getlibs -i PACKAGENAME.DEB if you have it downloaded already, or read some of the other options (the automatic thing from binaries rarely works for me)
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: but i have this lib on my system..
[09:24] <richfearlss> ok, has anyone successfully run Dreamweaver on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, do you have the 32bit DEB though?
[09:25] <jacklee> Hi,I config a DNS Server and create the master zone and sub zone.but from main zone I cannot query sub zone's hosts.why?
[09:26] <awsten32> Can someone give me link about "Configuration Editor" ??!! helping me what is it !
[09:26] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: i'm just installl libnspr4-0d .. i think it's x64 lib version
[09:26] <Slyboots> Hm, I think Ubuntu hates me :P "Ran into a issue whiel installing GRUB to a RAID1 array, installer just said it encountered a fatail error, but the logs show..
[09:27] <Slyboots> warn: This GPT partition label has (cut off) o BIOS Boot partition: embedding wont be possible!
[09:27] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, you can download the 32bit DEB from somewhere and install it using getlibs
[09:27] <Slyboots> error: Embedding is not possible, (cut off0 t this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume
[09:27] <Slyboots> Now, I do have /boot inside a RAID1 container but.. ... .. wtf is a bios boot partition
[09:28] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: hmmm...
[09:28] <Slyboots> I though that is what /boot was for.. thats never mentioned in the install guide
[09:28] <Slyboots> And isnt GPT what.. OS X uses?
[09:30] <zamba> how do i check duplex and speed settings for my NIC?
[09:31] <llutz> zamba: sudo ethtool ethX
[09:31] <richfearlss> does anyone run Dreamweaver CS4 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:31] <zamba> llutz: thanks
[09:31] <meganerd> zamba: you may to to use mii-tool, depending on the NIC you have
[09:32] <zamba> meganerd: ethtool worked wonders
[09:32] <meganerd> zamba: great
[09:32] <meganerd> zamba: it is what I reach for first, sometimes it is unable to read the card, so mii-tool is a good alternative
[09:32] <pokoko222> anyone uses Ogre3d in Ubuntu?
[09:32] <dabukalam_> llutz: I'm having some problems understanding iptables fully... are you able to help?
[09:33] <bazhang> richfearlss, check the appdb, help in #winehq
[09:33] <llutz> dabukalam_: my iptables-knowledge is very limited too
[09:33] <bazhang> !appdb | richfearlss
[09:33] <zamba> dabukalam_: ask your question
[09:33] <richfearlss> !appdb
[09:33] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9:  great!! thx!! :beer:
[09:33] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, :)
[09:33] <pokoko222> anyone uses Ogre3d in Ubuntu?
[09:34] <Jayant> anybody there who can help me please........
[09:34] <dabukalam_> zamba: I'm trying to disallow a particular service access to the internet, but I can only seem to find ways to disallow access to users or IPs... Maybe disallowing access to the group the service runs itself on?
[09:34] <zamba> dabukalam_: do you know what port it tries to communicate over?
[09:34] <dabukalam_> !ask | Jayant
[09:34] <awsten32> guyz what's the Gconf
[09:34] <theadmin> Strange.
[09:34] <llutz> dabukalam_: what service?
[09:35] <theadmin> Network manager detected two ethernet interfaces yet I have only one ethernet hole. Any ideas?
[09:35] <dabukalam_> zamba: yeah, I think I do, let me double-check
[09:35] <dabukalam_> llutz: transmission
[09:35] <Jayant> ubbotu: ok sorry
[09:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296070 pokoko222
[09:35] <Slart> awsten32: gconf is like the windows registry.. kind of
[09:35] <awsten32> Aha
[09:36] <Slart> awsten32: you can run "gconf-editor" in a terminal to see what's in there.. but don't change things unless you know what you're doing
[09:36] <theadmin> awsten32: You can edit it using "gconf-editor"
[09:36] <llutz> dabukalam_: why should it keep running without inet-access?
[09:36] <meganerd> theadmin: what does "ip addr" show?
[09:36] <awsten32> Is the Gconf= Configuration Editor
[09:36] <Slart> awsten32: could be.. you'll have to ask whoever said "Configuration Editor"
[09:36] <theadmin> meganerd: http://pastebin.com/Eym39G7L
[09:37] <Jayant> bazhang: i tried that software, but my sys doesnt support booting from pen drive. Is there any other way to boot it ??
[09:37] <awsten32> Ok
[09:37] <meganerd> theadmin: the second NIC icon is probably the PPP interface
[09:38] <dabukalam_> llutz: It's running on ubuntu server, and it has a web interface. Although transmission allows you to specify certain scheduled times at which to download, it still connects to peers during the off times, which is killing my network. I don't want to diable the service because during the day I want people to be able to log in and change settings, but it shouldn't see the net unti li tell it to.
[09:38] <theadmin> meganerd: I dunno, networkmanager applet displays "Auto eth0" and "Auto Ethernet"
[09:38] <dabukalam_> zamba: I think it's using 51413
[09:38] <llutz> dabukalam_: ah ok
[09:39] <meganerd> theadmin: I don't suppose you are using a PPPoE ISP?
[09:39] <theadmin> meganerd: I'm using a PPTP-VPN ISP
[09:39] <theadmin> meganerd: %)
[09:39] <Slyboots> Okay, so.. You cant have /boot inside a RAID if your disk is over 2tb
[09:39] <awsten32> guyz in the above panel there's applic... places sys,,, how if i wanna to change it !???
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <meganerd> theadmin: well ppp0 is showing as an interface, and likely that is what network manager is detecting as the second NIC
[09:40] <theadmin> meganerd: What's NIC anyway?
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <theadmin> meganerd: And that ppp0 only ever shows up when a VPN connection is running, so that's not it
[09:41] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: network interface card... kind of a misnomer
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: so it goes away after you close the VPN?
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <dabukalam_> !kick
[09:41] <theadmin> meganerd: Well, if i disconnect the VPN it no longer is in ifconfig or ip addr output
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: you got me.  I don't usually use the network manager very often
[09:41] <ph8> exciting day
[09:41] <ph8> hello beta 1
[09:42] <meganerd> theadmin: it is supposed to since that interface does not exist anymore
[09:42] <pokoko222> bazhang ah? there is no install manual dude
[09:42] <meganerd> theadmin: as to how NW deals with it, I have no idea.  Which version of Ubuntu?
[09:42] <theadmin> meganerd: Karmic.
[09:43] <awsten32> what's Karmic mean??
[09:43] <dabukalam_> !karmic | awsten32
[09:43] <theadmin> meganerd: Whatever, deleting the "Auto Ethernet" solved it :D But it was really akward
[09:43] <meganerd> theadmin: 9.10 was the first time I actually did not blow NW away. It still causes me pain sometimes
[09:43] <theadmin> Hm, it looks like they were the same connections :/ Settings are identical for both
[09:43] <theadmin> Weird
[09:44] <awsten32> Ubuntu 9.10 = Karmic   Right???????
[09:44] <meganerd> theadmin: NM seems to get duplicates very easily, of wired and wifi connections
[09:44] <theadmin> awsten32: Yeah
[09:44] <theadmin> meganerd: I see... Hope they fix it soon
[09:44] <meganerd> theadmin: most of the time /etc/network/interfaces does what I want/need it to do
[09:44] <awsten32> lol i use Karmic  :P
[09:45] <meganerd> theadmin: I have the lucid beta, and so far it still happens there as well
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> meganerd, lucid alpha you mean :p
[09:45] <theadmin> meganerd: I won't be configuring that stuff manually because of the dynamic IP which NM nicely resolves
[09:45] <pokoko222> is there an IDE for GCC in ubuntu?
[09:45] <meganerd> ZykoticK9: yes, on my old laptop
[09:45] <theadmin> pokoko222: Err, GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection
[09:46] <meganerd> theadmin: the interfaces file handles dynamic well, it has for years.  Use whatever suits you though
[09:46] <pokoko222> theadmin well it has c, c++ and other stuff, microsoft visual studio is IDE, there is nothing similar in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Jayant> does anyone know why does ubuntu Boot CD helper gave an error "Permission Denied" when creating a boot menu for installation ??
[09:46] <theadmin> pokoko222: Try netbeans (more info: www.netbeans.org )
[09:46] <meganerd> pokoko222: there are a lot of IDEs, Eclipse, Kdevelope, monodevelope,  and more
[09:46] <pokoko222> netbeans crashes on ubuntu
[09:47] <meganerd> pokoko222: it depends on personal preferences and the language(s) you use
[09:47] <dabukalam_> Jayant: Did you check the disk for errors?
[09:47] <ZykoticK9> Jayant, you really should also mention that you're using WUBI, gives people more information to work with
[09:47] <pokoko222> meganerd well i need c++ and Ogre3d
[09:47] <dabukalam_> oh
[09:48] <meganerd> pokoko222: no idea what ogre is.  I use kdevelope and eclipse for C, idle for python, vim for quick edits of everything.
[09:49] <dabukalam_> Jayant: Is this the lates version of ubuntu? (Karmic 9.10)
[09:49] <student> vl;
[09:49] <dabukalam_> *t
[09:49] <meganerd> pokoko222: gcc is the C compiler, g++ is the C++ compiler.
[09:49] <Jayant> dabukalam_ yes
[09:50] <syli725> hi, I installed a new bootsplash theme. it's working well when loading a kernel. but the background picture of GRUB doesn't change at kernel selection stage. how to change it? thanks.
[09:50] <mamous> where to write long things :/
[09:50] <mamous> ?
[09:51] <geeker> hey..can any buddy tell me how to change or install new login themes for my ubuntu???
[09:51] <mamous> I have a big error
[09:51] <geeker> pls help
[09:51] <dabukalam_> Jayant: When you say "boot menu for installation" what do you mean? You mean at the end of the installation when it's installing GRUB (the boot manager)?
[09:51] <mamous> ?
[09:51] <theadmin> geeker: Are you using 9.10?
[09:51] <theadmin> mamous: I think you want pastebin.com
[09:51] <geeker> i dnt know
[09:51] <geeker> how to check that
[09:51] <theadmin> geeker: lsb_release --short --codename
[09:51] <geeker> lsb_release
[09:52] <Jayant> dabukalam: NO, when  i run the CD from windows and select the first option(Demo and full installation), then in the new menu, the third option(help me boot from CD). Its used because i cannot boot from CD.
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: Put that into a terminal.
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: Then tell me what it will give
[09:52] <geeker> what that means...
[09:52] <geeker> it says karmix
[09:52] <geeker> i mean karmic
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: That's 9.10
[09:53] <theadmin> geeker: Wait a sec.
[09:53] <meganerd> aw
[09:53] <dabukalam_> zamba: you still here?
[09:53] <theadmin> Do this (in a terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[09:53] <geeker> k k '
[09:53] <geeker> am here
[09:54] <theadmin> lol love Linux... just give someone a long and weird command and everything is solved. Ahem, sorry for ot
[09:54] <geeker> theadmin, u dere
[09:55] <dabukalam_> theadmin: ot?
[09:55] <theadmin> geeker: Do this (in a terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[09:55] <theadmin> dabukalam_: Offtopic, that is
[09:55] <rsk> theadmin could have just done it the point and click way
[09:55] <rsk> the command is just faster
[09:55] <dabukalam_> theadmin: ah :D
[09:55] <geeker> theadmin: whats that, can u explain that to me..
[09:55] <theadmin> geeker: Then you will be able to configure the log-in screen trough System - Admininstration - Login Window (GDM2SETUP)
[09:56] <theadmin> geeker: That installs the login screen configuration utility
[09:56] <itheos> hey. i have an ateck eagle eye web cam. it is detected by ubuntu but cheese or other applications cant open it
[09:56] <theadmin> rsk: Yeah, it always is this way, besides the command is not language-dependent
[09:58] <itheos> any solution?
[09:59] <pokoko222> would it be a better idea to do graphics on windows and not ubuntu?
[09:59] <rsk> pokoko222 do what's best
[09:59] <theadmin> pokoko222: Dunno, Ubuntu is powerful enough for that, imho.
[09:59] <ddavids> pls i cant seem to resume my karmic desktop from sleep, i have to power shutdown and restart again... i feel this is not right and may damage the system, wht can i try?
[09:59] <pokoko222> rsk wtf if i knew best i would not ask u...
[10:00] <dabukalam_> rsk: LOL
[10:00] <theadmin> ddavids: Never do hard shutdown. Hold Ctrl+SysRQ and type reisub if system is frozen
[10:00] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: what do you mean by graphics, you're talking about image editing etc.?
[10:00] <theadmin> ddavids: That's a. b, are you sure your swap partition is in order?
[10:00] <pokoko222> dabukalam_ 3d software and games
[10:01] <ddavids> theadmin: what is Sys RQ?
[10:01] <theadmin> ddavids: If you don't have this key, then Ctrl+Right Alt+PrtSc and reisub
[10:01] <theadmin> ddavids: Dunno if it's still present on any keyboards lol
[10:01] <erUSUL> ddavids: Alt + SysRq + q
[10:01] <rsk> pokoko222 then you have to try
[10:01] <dabukalam_> dabukalam_: It's really down to personal preference. You should try out the different software available for both windows and linux, and see which one you feel most comfortable with
[10:01] <theadmin> erUSUL: q?
[10:01] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: It's really down to personal preference. You should try out the different software available for both windows and linux, and see which one you feel most comfortable with
[10:01] <rsk> pokoko222 what's best for me is probably not best for you
[10:01] <erUSUL> !sysrq
[10:02] <rsk> pokoko222 asking what's best dosen't give a good answear
[10:02] <pokoko222> rsk u sound like Budha
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: it seems to be R, E, I, S, U and B
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: not only Q
[10:02] <rsk> pokoko222 sure i will shut it from here then
[10:02] <theadmin> erUSUL: Err, you just said "q" yourself, quote: (01:01:30 PM) erUSUL: ddavids: Alt + SysRq + q
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: sorry
[10:02] <itheos> hey. i have an ateck eagle eye web cam. it is detected by ubuntu but cheese or other applications cant open it. any solution? :D
[10:03] <erUSUL> theadmin: -ENOTENOGHCOFFEE
[10:03] <theadmin> erUSUL: o_O wha... Anyway, only combos really to know about imo are REISUB and K
[10:04] <itheos> notenoughcoffee?
[10:04] <abhi_nav> Jayant: you there?
[10:04] <colary> i got a problem with ubuntu software centre anyone can help me?
[10:04] <theadmin> colary: What is the problem?
[10:05] <colary> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[10:05] <colary> is the error
[10:05] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: As for games, there's no question that for playing mainstream releases you're better off with windows, although if it's only a couple and they both work well on wine, it might not be worth installing windows to play them
[10:05] <colary> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same
[10:05] <colary> is the whole
[10:05] <theadmin> colary: You are trying to install something which conflicts with something else
[10:05] <colary> can u help me with it?
[10:05] <colary> means?
[10:06] <colary> i just wanna install few games
[10:07] <colary> what to do?
[10:07] <Wazzzaaa> my grub1 is broken. I tried to recover it from live cd but got errors (floating point exception). Since that are grub1 errors I want to install grub2.
[10:07] <itheos> any help?
[10:07] <morpheuss> crysetup and luks uses which startup scripts,want to add a script after them anyone ?
[10:07] <colary> :-/
[10:08] <Wazzzaaa> But I cannot install grub-pc from live-cd (no network in chroot). Any ideas ?
[10:08] <ryszard> :)
[10:10] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a limit to how many virtual ips i can add in ubuntu?
[10:10] <harisund> Any advanced GNU screen users here? I want to know if I can make screen show the name of the window I am currently on (name and number preferably)
[10:10] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: I should use byobu
[10:11] <Wazzzaaa> that are some nice screen profiles which do what you want
[10:11] <colary> hey
[10:11] <colary> i just did something now it running fine
[10:11] <colary> no
[10:12] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: is byobu different than screen? I have a current screen session I am running IRSSI and other things on, can I use byobu to enhance that?
[10:12] <geeker> theadmin: can u read me...
[10:12] <geeker> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[10:13] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I can't loose my current screen session .. if not, I will have to do it the next time I reboot or screen crashes or something
[10:13] <geeker> can u explain the same to me..how does that command work..
[10:13] <theadmin> geeker: That goes to a terminal, not to the channel :/
[10:13] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: it IS screen, but it has some profiles
[10:13] <colary> ok
[10:13] <erUSUL> harisund: byobu is screen + plugins and themes
[10:13] <Wazzzaaa> I think you have to restart screen for it. But just check it out
[10:13] <harisund> ouch .. ok will do
[10:13] <theadmin> geeker: apt-get is a package manager. "sudo" means "run as admin". "add-apt-repository" adds a repo to your software sources.
[10:14] <melchior_> is it possible to include every headers from the same folder in one line ?
[10:14] <viliny> geeker: don't worry about it. Just google for everything - most stuff has a detailed command by command guide
[10:14] <erUSUL> melchior_: C ?
[10:14] <melchior_> yes
[10:14] <viliny> when you have enough copy-pasting behind you it kinda sticks to you and you start writing long-ass-stuff from memory :)
[10:14] <geeker> theadmin: it says it failed to download the stuff u told me..
[10:15] <geeker> i think there is some error..
[10:15] <melchior_> ah sorry i thought  i was on C channel
[10:15] <theadmin> geeker: Weird, guess something wrong with the mirrors... :/ Try it again later
[10:16] <viliny> theadmin: works for me though.
[10:16] <geeker> okay..
[10:16] <leohartx> my ubuntu do fsck at every boot, how do i change fsck frequency ? my file system is ext4
[10:17] <geeker> theadmin: googling is okay..
[10:17] <geeker> but some time its hard to get all the things, can u tell me any specific site from where i can learn things, coz i am just a newbie
[10:17] <theadmin> leohartx: AFAIK it checks every 30 mounts... Anyway, you need to edit /etc/fstab for this
[10:18] <leohartx> theadmin : how ?
[10:18] <theadmin> leohartx: Actually, i don't remember how exactly...
[10:18] <geeker> theadmin,  need a lil more help.. can u tell me how to repair grub.. if it gets broken..
[10:18] <balor> Latest intel driver has hosed the xrandr on my EeePC. I can no-longer connect an external VGA monitor.  Is this a known bug or am I billy-no-mates?
[10:19] <theadmin> geeker: Try "sudo update-grub"
[10:19] <leohartx> theadmin : oh, that's a bad news :(
[10:19] <leohartx> my ubuntu do fsck at every boot, how do i change fsck frequency ? my file system is ext4
[10:20] <ralph_> i have no idea what fsck is :P
[10:20] <geeker> no not that one..
[10:20] <ralph_> i'm new to ubuntu myself
[10:20] <erUSUL> leohartx: see tunefs man page; but anyway if it does it at every boot something else is going on
[10:21] <FermerYaRoS> Hoi people do you speack russian
[10:21] <erUSUL> leohartx: try to pass a fsck to the afected parition from a livecd and see what is repairing; if anything
[10:21] <erUSUL> !ru
[10:21] <leohartx> erUSUL : all partitions checked by fsck are clean
[10:22] <leohartx> erUSUL : and tunefs doesnt work with ext4 :(
[10:22] <ralph_> i just got ubuntu and a friend of mine said that it's supposed to come with other desktops besides Gnome but mine didn't (or it's not enabled)
[10:22] <FermerYaRoS> erUSUL no body ru
[10:22] <ralph_> anyone have any info on that? I heard it was supposed to come with KDE and Fluxxbox or something
[10:22] <harisund> oh my God who was it that suggested byobu
[10:22] <Sh3r1ff> ralph_: ubuntu has gnome, kubuntu has kde
[10:22] <_ruben_> ralph_: those arent installed by default
[10:23] <harisund> THANK YOU !! it's pretty awesome
[10:23] <erUSUL> leohartx: it has to work with ext4 ....
[10:23] <harisund> erUSUL: Wazzzaaa : thanks man ..
[10:23] <rsk> ralph_ you can install any desktop you want and switch wich one you want to use at the login screen
[10:23] <rsk> ralph_ ubuntu has dussins in the packages
[10:23] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I wanted screen to do two things, auto launch on login and show window names on the bottom .. I have setup byobu to do both :)
[10:23] <ralph_> i see, well i went to the kde website and i didn't see a 'download' section
[10:24] <leohartx> erUSUL : tunefs: command not found <--- this is what i've received :(
[10:24] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: yeah! I love byobu
[10:24] <rsk> ralph_ use sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[10:24] <leohartx> erUSUL : i'll try to modify fstab, i've just read the man page
[10:24] <theadmin> rsk: That'd be kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <rsk> ralph_ also it's on the frontpage of kde.org http://www.kde.org/download/
[10:24] <ralph_> lol, thanks. guess i need to read more :P
[10:24] <erUSUL> leohartx: is tune2fs ican make typos ;)
[10:25] <viliny> Quick question, does Kubuntu and Xubuntu work better than Ubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop? it felt a bit disconnected.
[10:26] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: man, byobu / irssi / bitlbee make for a terrific combo
[10:27] <leohartx> erUSUL : ty for information, i'll check it out
[10:27] <theadmin> viliny: They just take a lot of space, especially KDE, but work quite the same as the CD releases
[10:28] <Emanon> ahh pidgin here for all protocols cept skype (64 bit skype4pidgin crashes when i have 2 skype accounts active :-( )
[10:28] <Sh3r1ff> irssi++
[10:28] <p1gmale0n> viliny: xubuntu use upstart .. in ubuntu initrd by default ...
[10:29] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: Wrong, Ubuntu uses Upstart as well
[10:29] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: realy?? how long??
[10:29] <Emanon> wow lucid in april has it been 6 months already?
[10:30] <viliny> basicly i had everything quite effed up at the end. Booting up with a xubuntu splash screen and then logging into either gdm or kde... started to feel a wee bit broken. Just wondering if the actual releases would feel more polished than my cross-wm asshattery.
[10:30] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: It's an Ubuntu project :/
[10:30] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: upstart.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: i now
[10:31] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: but 8.10 use initrd
[10:31] <Emanon> and yes the actual releases tend to be a bit more consistent feeling than switching environments
[10:31] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: Interpid? Interpid... yeah, it does. Remember those good old day
[10:31] <theadmin> s
[10:31] <Emanon> takes a little fiddling to get it to feel native if it wasn't
[10:31] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: bitlbee looks nice, thnx :P
[10:31] <crackguy> how can I set my ip/hostname to something like cheat@crackguy.net where it appears in my /whois result, like shell accounts provides vhosts?
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> theadmin: old days? i'm still on 8.04 ;)
[10:32] <theadmin> Sh3r1ff: :D
[10:32] <geeker> actually one of mine friends machine got sucked of grub,
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> lts++
[10:32] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: i'm not reinstalling system .. i'm just update.. =)
[10:32] <geeker> theadmin: and it cant load the linux now.. so how it can be repaired...
[10:32] <viliny> crackguy: i guess you have to own the crackguy.net domain for that
[10:33] <crackguy> viliny, i do!
[10:33] <p1gmale0n> and 8.03 is LTS .. i'm use 8.04 on all my server stations
[10:33] <viliny> alright, then i think you have to make the machine that you use irc from to somehow assume that
[10:33] <viliny> really hazy for me how it works actually, someone with expertise please explain!
[10:33] <crackguy> viliny, good thought..
[10:33] <geeker> theadmin,
[10:33] <theadmin> geeker: You'll have to reinstall GRUB. To do so, you need an Ubuntu live CD
[10:34] <geeker> okay..
[10:34] <Emanon> clear
[10:34] <geeker> u mean i need to reinstall the whole OS..
[10:34] <geeker> is that so??
[10:34] <Emanon> no
[10:34] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: a dns resolve to crackguy.net should point to that machine
[10:34] <theadmin> geeker: After you boot from it, just do "grub-install /dev/sda" (replace /dev/sda with the hard drive you install to)
[10:34] <Emanon> just the bootloader
[10:35] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can do that, but is there anything that machine needs to know?
[10:35] <geeker> theadmin: one sec... can u tell me a lil about that thing /dev/sda or /dev/hda??? i mean  what are they..
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. I'm runnning a vncserver session on a headless ubuntu server. Is there any way I can provide a virtual OpenGL interface to programs running in that session?
[10:35] <ravionrails> karmic is so bad in network, internet disconnect and blinking screen , so that i am not upgrading my system from interpid
[10:35] <Emanon> geeker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB
[10:35] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: not really, just make sure /etc/resolv.conf is correct
[10:36] <Emanon> geeker: anything in the /dev/ directory will be a device (hard disk, audio, mouse keyboard anything)
[10:36] <geeker> theadmin: hmmm...let me see... hey i have another query... if i need to see all my information about my h/w.. hw can i do that
[10:36] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, wouldn't i need to setup a dns server on the machine
[10:36] <theadmin> geeker: sudo lshw should give you the most of it
[10:37] <visik7> hi
[10:37] <theadmin> wtf, i try to create a folder with a cyrillic name and nautilus crashes :/
[10:37] <Emanon> hi visik7
[10:37] <visik7> anyone knows about java applets and X.org ? I have an applet that crash my X.org
[10:37] <ZykoticK9> geeker, you might also be interested in the output of "lspci -vnvn"
[10:37] <Emanon> you have cyrillic font installed theadmin
[10:37] <theadmin> Emanon: Yep, proof -> ЫЫЫЫ
[10:38] <geeker> theadmin: ok.. isn't their a command like inxi or ixni some thing like so..
[10:38] <Emanon> and apparently so do i hehe
[10:38] <theadmin> geeker: Never heard
[10:38] <Emanon> learn something new every time hehe
[10:38] <geeker> ZykoticK9: what that is all about.. pls explain..
[10:38] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I need to hang out more on IRC to learn such cool apps like byobu/ bitlbee whatever
[10:38] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: not really, when you register a domain, you have to specify a dns server (most likely 2), and those dns servers should have cracjkguiy.net in their config
[10:38] <ZykoticK9> geeker, it will show you detailed info on some of your hardware
[10:38] <volkan> has anyone know anything about using g105m nvidia card on UBUNTU
[10:38] <Wazzzaaa> :)
[10:39] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: depends if you administrate the dns servers or not
[10:39] <Wazzzaaa> I just installed grub2 and when selecting UBuntu I get: error: You need to load the kernel first
[10:39] <Wazzzaaa> Any ideas?
[10:39] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, so you are suggesting, i change my dns server settings of my domain crackguy.net to my internet ip address?
[10:39] <theadmin> Wazzzaaa: Grub2 is a bad thing in general. I'd wish i could revert to Grub1, but it ain't booting my XP
[10:39] <Emanon> i assume you have an acer volkan?
[10:40] <geeker> okay..
[10:40] <volkan> yes unfortunately i do...
[10:40] <Wazzzaaa> lol theadmin, I just installed grub2 because I couldn't fix my grub1 problem
[10:40] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: depends, do you have a static ip?
[10:40] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yup!
[10:41] <Wazzzaaa> in #grub they don't support grub1 anymore
[10:41] <geeker> ZykoticK9,  can u tell me about how to under stand partitioning in ubuntu..
[10:41] <theadmin> Wazzzaaa: I see. Well, i kinda am absolutely noob about second grub
[10:41] <Emanon> 32 bit?
[10:41] <ZykoticK9> geeker, sorry man i stay away from partitioning stuff over IRC, too dangerous
[10:42] <Wazzzaaa> I'm getting better with it :)
[10:42] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: then you can, or you can configure your dns to point <hostname>.crackguy.net to your ip
[10:42] <geeker> well..
[10:42] <volkan> eamon if u ask me yes i have a 32 bit version of ubuntu
[10:42] <geeker> its okay..
[10:42] <geeker> u can tell me..
[10:42] <geeker> i wnt apply any thing..
[10:42] <geeker> u can teach me in a way..
[10:42] <geeker> coz i have no idea about the things..
[10:42] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can try that, but i am not very convinced it is that simple, cause i heard something about reverse dnsing and stuff
[10:43] <ZykoticK9> !enter > geeker
[10:43] <Emanon> volkan: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_190.42.html
[10:43] <theadmin> geeker: Well, basically, hard disks are /dev/sd + LETTER + PARTITION NUMBER. Where letter is a device identifier... First hard disk would be /dev/sda, and partition number... is a partition number, such as 1.
[10:43] <Emanon> that is the driver for support of that card if you didnt have it already
[10:44] <theadmin> Hm... wait a sec.
[10:44] <bbelt16ag> what the  heck is  wrong with pulse audio it  freezes up  after  a bit of playing music?
[10:44] <theadmin> If there is "eth0", why isn't there sd0?
[10:44] <volkan> ow thanks i had downloaded the latest version but it had not worked i hope this helps
[10:44] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is also on the dns server
[10:44] <volkan> thanks for interest
[10:44] <Emanon> no prob friend good luck
[10:44] <theadmin> Err, sda0 or something
[10:44] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, what dns server? i haven't set up any dns server.. or do you mean my domain name...
[10:45] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: dns is telling crackguy.net is that ip, reverse dns is telling that ip is crackguy.net
[10:45] <Emanon> problems with certain hardware is depressingly common
[10:45] <geeker> theadmin, ok thats why they have written so like sda0, sda1.. and so on, now how to guess about, which one is first and which one is second
[10:46] <Emanon> there wont be sda0
[10:46] <geeker> Emanon, whay so??
[10:46] <Emanon> disk partition numbering starts at 1 in linux geeker
[10:46] <Emanon> it starts at 0 in bsd if thats any consoloation
[10:46] <Emanon> consolation i mean
[10:46] <theadmin> geeker: You can look at gparted
[10:46] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: when you register a domain name, a dns server has to have the information which ip is habndling crackguy.net, either you can have your own dns server doing that, or it is the company where you registered your domain name
[10:46] <cTaPuK> !seen one
[10:46] <geeker> sorry but whats that Emanon , i mean bsd??
[10:47] <ZykoticK9> Emanon, now start to explain slices ;)
[10:47] <Emanon> hehe
[10:47] <theadmin> geeker: Another Unix based system... There are Linux, BSD and Mac... all are unix based
[10:47] <Emanon> bsd is another operating system that like linux is based off of unix
[10:47] <Sh3r1ff> !dns | crackguy
[10:47] <Emanon> the latest versions of mac anyways
[10:48] <Emanon> it tends to have more stability and logical development but is as a general rule a little slower to adopt exciting new tech
[10:48] <Sh3r1ff> hmm, ubottu doesn't know anything about dns
[10:48] <SolarisBoy> heh
[10:49] <Emanon> id say if your willing to go hardcore its well worth a look but dont be surprised if things are different than you expect
[10:49] <iwobbles> +
[10:49] <Emanon> device labeling being one of them hehe
[10:49] <epinky> Sh3r1ff: I think it was deleted time ago
[10:49] <Emanon> but it might be worth it just for zfs
[10:50] <Emanon> but im getting ot
[10:52] <geeker> hey can any one tell me more of linux partitioning..
[10:52] <Emanon> what would you like to know geeker
[10:52] <geeker> i cant get things like /dev/sda1
[10:52] <geeker> gparted
[10:52] <geeker> -gparted
[10:52] <geeker> --gparted
[10:52] <Emanon> then you probably have ide or pata drives
[10:53] <epinky> !disks | geeker
[10:53] <Emanon> good command epinky
[10:53] <Emanon> palimpset is decent as well
[10:54] <geeker> it says i have /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, unallocated and than again a new window tab, and than /dev/sda3, /dev/sda4.. i cant get how is the hierarchy followed here, like in windows there are c drive or d drive.. so how can i compare them here
[10:54] <JoshuaL> What is a good password manager for Ubuntu?
[10:56] <Sh3r1ff> geeker: you can compare windows c an d drive with mount points in linux
[10:56] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am on my dns server serttings, this is what it shows
[10:56] <crackguy> You are currently using our domain name servers (DNS) for your domain.
[10:56] <crackguy> Please enter DNS name only (ex: ns1.mydomain.com). Please don't enter IP
[10:56] <crackguy> addresses. You can enter up to five name servers. It is advisable to enter atleast
[10:56] <crackguy> two nameservers for a domain. Please note that it will take up to 24 hours for
[10:56] <crackguy> the changes to take effect
[10:56] <FloodBot2> crackguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <crackguy> oops! sorry
[10:57] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: so they are handling the dns
[10:57] <Emanon> geeker: /dev/=device sd=scsi drive (as opposed to ide or pata) a-z is which drive (first is a second b and so on) and numbering is which partion on that drive
[10:57] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah, but as they suggested, i can not enter an ip address
[10:57] <Emanon> so /dev/sda1 is the first partition on the first scsi controlled drive geeker
[10:57] <Emanon> sda2 the second and so forth
[10:57] <friendishan> Hello
[10:58] <p1gmale0n> q
[10:58] <Emanon> hi friendishan
[10:58] <neil_d> how do I get a list of installed packages?
[10:58] <crackguy> !bind
[10:58] <stanman246> hi, how can i remove a ubuntu box from a SBS 2003 domain?
[10:58] <crackguy> !bind9
[10:58] <Emanon> neil_d: open synaptic and filter by package status
[10:58] <ZykoticK9> !clone | neil_d
[10:58] <Emanon> or what ZykoticK9 said
[10:59] <geeker> thanks Emanon : i can get things now, it means like as u said my ubuntu is installed to /dev/sda2 means installed to second partition.. is that so..
[10:59] <friendishan> I want to make a backup of my evolution so that i can transfer every mail and accounts to my other computer, please tell me how to do that, thanks
[10:59] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is for entering your nameservers, if you don't have your own dns server, you can't enter a nameserver (nameserver = dns server)
[10:59] <Emanon> yup
[10:59] <nyaa> is there a way to clear a processor of other processes so that I can use it to only support 1 process?
[10:59] <Emanon> second partition on first drive
[10:59] <friendishan> !backup evolution
[10:59] <Emanon> friendishan: it will be an option in evolution's file menu
[11:00] <stanman246> how to logon local instead of on a domain?
[11:00] <Emanon> friendishan: File>Backup Settings
[11:00] <geeker> Emanon, ok so what is thios extended partition than, again it has roots under it, which says /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda4
[11:00] <Emanon> friendishan: will back up everything but saved passwords
[11:00] <SeR> Îëåíè )
[11:01] <Emanon> geeker: a drive can support up to 4 primary partitions (sda1-4) and more extended (or logical) partitions (5-whatever the max is)
[11:01] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, alright, i've set my subdomain atif.crackguy.net to 122.105.241.106 in A (Address) record type.. i hope that is right
[11:01] <attack> SeR yeah :)
[11:01] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that's how it works ;)
[11:01] <Emanon> so 1-4 are primaries and 5-whatever are extended which means their essentially smaller partitions inside of another one
[11:02] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, awesome! now how can i use it as a vhost?
[11:02] <Emanon> so what that means is it wanted to separate files (for better performance/security) into more partitions than it could have as primary so it made extended partitions to help with that geeker
[11:03] <geeker> Emanon, that is okay.. but here i have /dev/sda5 too under extended
[11:03] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhost_(IRC) suggests that 1. The vhost in question must have an A record which points to the IP address from which the connection to the IRC network is being made. 2. The reverse DNS for the IP address must point back to the vhost.
[11:03] <Emanon> by separating directories into partitions made for specific uses you can increase performance and security by altering partition-wide permissions (no executables file size quotas etc)
[11:03] <Emanon> right 5 will be the first extended partition
[11:04] <Emanon> regardless if there is a 4 3 or 2
[11:04] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: sec, let me read the webpage
[11:04]  * SeR slaps attack around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] <SeR> äàé äåíåã)
[11:04] <attack> zachem?
[11:04] <attack> idi rabotaj
[11:04] <attack> loh°
[11:04] <attack> :>
[11:05] <FloodBot2> attack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <SeR> êóïëþ ñëîíà)
[11:05] <BigWookie> hey, anyone here got an ION graphics card with hdmi and vga , i need to know if it can handle 1920x1200 dualhaed
[11:05] <SeR> íå ôëóäè,ëîõ )
[11:05] <attack> sam loh
[11:05] <iceroot> BigWookie: ##hardware
[11:05] <BigWookie> thx
[11:05] <BigWookie> but its about the linux driver in ubuntu too
[11:06] <Emanon> that make any sense geeker?
[11:06] <epinky> !lv | SeR
[11:06] <SeR> epinky ?)
[11:06] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: when i do nslookup of atif.crackguy.net, i get the ip you mentioned
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: but the reverse is not ok
[11:07] <volkan> hi there im very new for linux so how can i install xfree86 software on my linux i dont know any article or help
[11:07] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah, how do i setup a reverse?
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is also on the dns server
[11:07] <volkan> eamon thanks again btw i think we will be good friends soon:D
[11:08] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am reading this http://www.leveltendesign.com/blog/nickc/virtualhost-tricks-pointing-your-machines-ip-a-different-location-localhost
[11:08] <epinky> SeR: Lūdzu pievienoties šis kanāls #ubuntu-lv
[11:09] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: you need a PTR record on your dns server
[11:09] <Emanon> you might try the package manager synaptic and look for files with xfree86 in the title volkan
[11:10] <Emanon> but you should note that The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
[11:10] <Emanon> and supersedes all XFree86 X servers. volkan
[11:10] <geeker> Emanon, i am getting confused man.. i cant understand the partition matter, it says, one needs to have root partition than home and than swap..
[11:10] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am trying to figure out how
[11:11] <Emanon> geeker the root partition (labled as / ) is your whole system directory
[11:11] <Emanon> within that are directories for various things including /home which is your personal folder directory
[11:11] <Emanon> like My Documents in windows
[11:12] <Emanon> swap is virtual memory used when you need more than your physical memory can provide
[11:12] <Emanon> like the windows pagefile
[11:13] <xhunter> How can I changed my login screen in Ubuntu ?
[11:13] <xhunter> I want to put another one .
[11:13] <Emanon> System>Administration>Login Screen xhunter
[11:14] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: btw, the site you posted isn't really relative to what you're doing
[11:14] <xhunter> Emanon, Thank you.
[11:14] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah I realised
[11:14] <Emanon> np xhunter
[11:15] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can't find any way to setup a PTR record in my domain settings
[11:15] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: do you have anywhere the option to set a reverse dns?
[11:16] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can't find any, i am using www.namecheap.com for my domain, you can click on Help and find topics, there is nothing there either
[11:16] <Myxb> hi! where do i setup how often rsyslogd writes to disk? here is accesses disk about every 3-4 sec. anyone?
[11:18] <Sh3r1ff> !pastebin
[11:18] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, http://freedns.afraid.org/ offers free dns services but in the features list it only lists free ipv6 reverse hosting
[11:19] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393959/
[11:20] <tekromancR> ^Wk
[11:20] <xhunter> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GNU%2BLinux+-+Black?content=116213
[11:20] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah i realise it is not resolving to that domain yet, that's what i am trying to setup
[11:21] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: resolving the domain is ok, it is just the reverse that still points to your isp
[11:21] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah how do I make a revers :(
[11:21] <crackguy> reverse*
[11:23] <Rotonen> so, having this rather interesting problem that everything typed in with a keyboard gets doubled: i've tried several pieces of keyboard hardware so far
[11:23] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: you have to ask your isp to add a reverse record in their dns
[11:24] <Sh3r1ff> and point that to atif.crackguy.net
[11:25] <red> how can i disable the default keyring nag upon boot & wifi connection?
[11:26] <red> and still retain automatic wifi connection
[11:26] <kriss_> hello
[11:28] <kriss_> Talk?
[11:28] <pjanecze> hi, i have ftp server and want to allow for user to read, execute but not to remove file. How to do this?
[11:28] <Emanon> no write permission
[11:28] <chilli0> How can i start a cron job at 12:00 ?
[11:29] <pjanecze> no write permission dont work
[11:29] <chilli0> 2AM sorry.
[11:29] <nibbler> chilli0, 0 2 * * * /my/command
[11:29] <kriss_> I do not know
[11:29] <chilli0> thanks
[11:29] <nibbler> hi kriess
[11:29] <Myxb> red: i think you may have an "auto" wireless connection in NM which you do not have a password for. check "wireless tab" and just remove unneeded ones.
[11:29] <kriss_> come talk to me?
[11:30] <chilli0> Thank you.
[11:30] <epinky> red_: http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[11:30] <nibbler> kriss_, this is a support channel, if you have any question about ubuntu, just ask, all in one line, and see if someone helps you out
[11:30] <nibbler> chilli0, welcome
[11:31] <kriss_> understand
[11:31] <phoenix__> hello
[11:31] <nyaa> is there a way to make a process be treated as a real time process?
[11:33] <Emanon> change it's priority with gnome-system-monitor?
[11:33] <nibbler> nyaa, in the sourcecode of the process you can do that, as just the priority will not be enough usually, but memlocking etc has to be cared for
[11:34] <Kentrel> Anyone know how I can configure Evolution to download mail from my gmail account, but to leave it unchanged and unread on gmail's server, so that Outlook will download it and recognise it as new mail
[11:35] <Emanon> thats the default setting in evolution Kentrel
[11:35] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: use imap
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: but it won't see it as unread mail, because you already read it
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: unless you use pop and select the option to leave a copy on the server
[11:36] <Emanon> i use pop and i had to tell gmail to delete my messages when evolution downloaded them (or even mark them as read) so check the settings gmail side
[11:37] <Kentrel> I see ok
[11:37] <nyaa> nibbler caramba, so how would I make a wine process real time?
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> Hey, my /boot (ext2) partition doesn't has an UUID when I do nlkid
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> blkid*
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> any idea what can be the problem?
[11:39] <its-me-again_> hi i cant find teh .deb bownload fior urby
[11:39] <Sh3r1ff> Emanon: that's not the standard behaviour
[11:39] <Emanon> was for me idk maybe their default changed
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> Emanon: even it was like that for you, it doesn't make that the default behaviour
[11:41] <nibbler> nyaa, not at all. whats your problem?
[11:41] <nyaa> nibbler: I've been trying to convince a friend to use linux but he gets much better fps in wow in windows =x I have a real time kernel so I'm experimenting to see if I can beat out windows
[11:42] <Emanon> might consider some of the awesome linux fps games
[11:42] <rsk> nyaa rt kernels are slower than normal kernels
[11:42] <nyaa> nibbler I've tried using nice, and setting it with all sorts of configurations as far as what core(s) it runs ot with taskset
[11:42] <freqmod_r> Does anybody know how to make grub-2 to boot an entry automaticly
[11:42] <nyaa> rsk then what would make a kernel get more fps in wine?
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa it mostly depends on the videocard driver
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa no
[11:43] <freqmod_r> I have some servers which doesn't do that as default
[11:43] <nyaa> rsk so for nvidia cards is there some secret driver that gets better fps?
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa no
[11:43] <nibbler> nyaa, realtime does not make your system faster... you have an abstraction layer, that takes performace....
[11:44] <nyaa> nibbler understandable, but if we're just playing wow in a beast of a machine, it should allow the game to utilize more of the machine right?
[11:44] <rsk> nyaa no it dosent matter what the machine is
[11:44] <root_> I'm Here
[11:45] <nibbler> nyaa, no
[11:45] <rsk> nyaa realtime is just a guarante that you get stuff done in a certian ammount of time
[11:45] <freqmod_r> http://pastie.org/866395 is my grub-config
[11:45] <rsk> nyaa and by that is sacrifices things to get them done, meaning a slower overall system
[11:45] <root_> who is use BackTrack?
[11:45] <rsk> root_ #backtrack
[11:45] <Emanon> i do when its needed root_
[11:46] <nyaa> rsk then would you have any recommendations?  maybe a really short timeslice?
[11:46] <krishnasut> hello
[11:46] <rsk> nyaa what nvidia driver are you using now?
[11:46] <Emanon> need a good guitastic grub config utility for gnome
[11:46] <volkan> i downloaded and extracted all the tar files as requested but i dont know what to do now to make the installation of xfree86
[11:46] <bazhang> root_, #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[11:46] <rsk> nyaa read the appDB entry for wow, that should give some hints
[11:47] <root_> backtrack3 better than 4
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk tried everything from 185.x to the very latest which is 190.53
[11:47] <rsk> volkan they surely have an install readme?
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk I've been over that whole thing, tried all the advice there.
[11:47] <rsk> nyaa what wine versions have you tried?
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk latest version and the 1.x that is in the ubuntu repos
[11:48] <rsk> nyaa and have you tried cleaning .wine/ every now and then?
[11:48] <rsk> between wine versions
[11:48] <nyaa> rks also tried older versions but dapper etc won't even install heh
[11:48] <Emanon> try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[11:48] <nyaa> rsk I have not tried that, where's .wine/ at?  you mean kust in the home folder?
[11:48] <rsk> yes in home usually
[11:49] <nyaa> rsk so how do you clean it out? what parts do you take out?
[11:49] <rsk> everything
[11:49] <rsk> beware that it erases all wow data also
[11:49] <rsk> and all other wine installed apps
[11:49] <nyaa> yeah installing that was a pain, I'll prob save the folder
[11:51] <zonanet_> waiting ubuntu 10.4
[11:51] <bazhang> zonanet_, lucid discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <ineverexist> f*cking apt watch, how to kill it ? i can install nothing about a hour
[11:52] <nyaa> is there a way to clear other processes off a core, and reserve it for just a few processes?
[11:52] <bazhang> inversions, watch the language please
[11:52] <bazhang> inversions, sorry ignore that
[11:53] <bazhang> ineverexist, no cursing here please
[11:53] <ineverexist> nothing happens without a reason, but ok
[11:53] <daedaluz> anyone having any success with Catalyst 10.1 on 64bit?
[11:53] <vlt> Hello. I'm runnning a vncserver session on a headless ubuntu server. Is there any way I can provide a virtual OpenGL interface to programs running in that session?
[11:54] <its-me-again> i am needing a list of files in teh ubuntu repos i need to find ruby
[11:54] <bazhang> its-me-again, apt-cache search ruby
[11:54] <its-me-again> not to install in terminal but the actual download
[11:54] <ineverexist> this is be really old bug or what
[11:54] <ratty___> hey
[11:54] <ratty___> I installed phpmyadmin and didn't set a password
[11:54] <Sh3r1ff> its-me-again: apt-cache search ruby ;)
[11:54] <ratty___> this now proves problematic as I can't login to phpmyadmin with no password
[11:54] <ratty___> any idea how I change it?
[11:55] <bazhang> its-me-again, for ubuntu? or debian?
[11:56] <its-me-again> any .deb for my puppy install
[11:56] <jastor> its-me-again: isnt there a option for apt-get to just download the .deb ?
[11:56] <mik__> hi
[11:56] <dayo> my onboard NIC has got a shaky lan port. i want to install a NIC but have it be eth0,not eth1. how do i do this?
[11:56] <bazhang> its-me-again, puppylinux? try their support channel
[11:56] <its-me-again> jastor not in this case
[11:56] <jastor> i couldve sworn there was .. goign to doublecheck
[11:56] <jastor> its-me-again: ok ... ?
[11:56] <its-me-again> bazhang THEY DONT KNOW THEY SAID ASK HERE
[11:56] <stanman246> i tried to join a sbs2003 domain, now i can't login. How do i unjoin?
[11:57] <jastor> its-me-again: its a borked version of apt-get ? or it doesnt have apt-get at all?
[11:57] <vlt> dayo: I'd edit /etc/udev/rules.d/*network*
[11:57] <bazhang> its-me-again, no need for the caps
[11:57] <its-me-again> SOMEONE HERE WILL KNOEW WHERE I CAN GET ONE
[11:57] <ineverexist> puppy f*ck too, bug in loader, then freeze system with disc detection
[11:57] <jrib> ineverexist: stop with the language please
[11:57] <vlt> dayo: It's /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules here, actually.
[11:58] <jastor> its-me-again: apt-get -d install <package> worked fine for me
[11:58] <its-me-again> ok sorry i lost it there just i  am trying to install a ubuntu application called net responsability http://www.netresponsibility.com/download.php  i have done that but need teh ruby package as dependancy
[11:58] <Sh3r1ff> its-me-again: you want the .deb for ruby?
[11:59] <its-me-again> ubuntu is my main os
[11:59] <jastor> its-me-again: could be that the ruby youre after isnt in sources.list ? add some more deb http://bablaböaböa/
[11:59] <dayo> vlt: thanks. got it. :-)
[11:59] <ineverexist> today unfortunately, so instead admonish really help, ok
[11:59] <meowbuntu> its me
[12:00] <meowbuntu> where is teh download for ruby please
[12:00] <jastor> meowbuntu: i just did a apt-get -d install ruby .. it downlaoded to /var/cache/apt/archives/rubyblablablabl.deb
[12:00] <jrib> meowbuntu: constantly repeating and caps just gets you ignored, it doesn't help you get an answer faster
[12:01] <meowbuntu> jastor no its not that i am wanting teh .deb download from the internet from a website there not repos and stuff
[12:01] <kormoran> napisz coś po polsku!
[12:01] <jrib> !pl | kormoran
[12:01] <bazhang> kormoran, /join #ubuntu-pl
[12:01] <xhunter> meowbuntu, maybe you should ask on #ruby
[12:01] <Sh3r1ff> meowbuntu: then try the ruby website, if you can't find it, go complain there
[12:01] <jastor> meowbuntu: ok :P
[12:01] <meowbuntu> jastor good for you listen to what i need and help me
[12:01] <sept_> un xubuntu, can i enable compiz with xfwm4 decorator?
[12:01] <kormoran> ok! zrozumiałem.
[12:02] <jastor> meowbuntu: but may i ask whats wrong with the repos?
[12:02] <jastor> meowbuntu: if you want to build it yourself you could just apt-get source ruby
[12:02] <volkan> dears... help me i cant install nvidia driver i have the file as a format .run
[12:02] <jrib> !nvidia | volkan
[12:02] <jastor> volkan: chmod +x nvidia.run && ./nvidia.run
[12:02] <James_T_Kirk> Hi all.
[12:03] <James_T_Kirk> I have a problem. I have a 9.04 installation and of late the system has been freezing up the minute Update Manager starts. I havent logged onto my Ubuntu session for a long time, today I did a major upgrade from root, but the problem persists. What could be wrong?
[12:04] <meowbuntu> jastor can i pm you
[12:04] <jastor> meowbuntu: hmm ..
[12:04] <jastor> meowbuntu: ok
[12:04] <Gnoxter> Hello
[12:05] <Gnoxter> Got some Problem, noone could help me so I am here to ask
[12:05] <James_T_Kirk> I also ran dpkg and fsck, as well as apt-get update and apt-get upgrade (using --fix-missing), but still nothing's happening.
[12:06] <Emanon> !ask | Gnoxter
[12:06] <xhunter> Lol.
[12:06] <James_T_Kirk> Do I have a corrupt installation? I have a dual OS on my laptop.... Windows Vista and Ubuntu 9.04
[12:06] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: is your system up to date?
[12:06] <xhunter> !ask | xhunter
[12:06] <Emanon> well it IS vista thats about as corrupt as ive found
[12:07] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I just did a major update today... both update AND upgrade, via apt-get from root login (not X-Window).
[12:07] <Gnoxter> I brought a netbook a week ago it came with win7 starter. So I just tried to install ubuntu for dualboot. I set up a live-USB using UNetBootin. So then I booted form it and Got the Problem, that the installler did not find the Win7 Part. It didn't find any Partition so I set up the USB a second and third time but it always detected only an empty HDD. What shall I do`?
[12:07] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: That was the only way it would work, as it failed to run under GNOME.
[12:08] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: and ubuntu is now up to date?
[12:08] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I cant tell you, since I cant access it... total freeze-up man! LOL
[12:09] <Emanon> Gnoxter: try going to windows side defragging and resizing the partition from that side
[12:09] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I am on Vista at the moment, which is not really where I would like to be. LOL
[12:09] <Gnoxter> I did. But didnt help.
[12:09] <Gnoxter> It also does not detect the rescue partition from windows
[12:09] <dr3mro> please i use karmic and my network stopped working i can only log to other computers by smb://ip and i cant see any pc on my lan and i cant share any think if i share a folder it is not accessible and windows pc is prompted for user and password when they try to acces my computer .. using ubuntu karmic and laptop with wireless connection and when i try dpkg-reconfigure samba i get (   sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s' ) please help
[12:09] <Emanon> sure your looking at the right partition Gnoxter?
[12:10] <jrib> meowbuntu: packages.ubuntu.com but make sure you do not break your system
[12:10] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: when you log on on your ubuntu, take a terminal and update till all updates are installed, then log on in X and try the update manager
[12:10] <Gnoxter> Yep. Just one HDD and Installer says, its empy
[12:10] <Emanon> might be looking at the usb i mean Gnoxter
[12:10] <Gnoxter> nope this one is shown too
[12:10] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: Thanks. Will try again...
[12:10] <Emanon> and the ramdisk i am to assume
[12:11] <James_T_Kirk> bye all.
[12:11] <Gnoxter> only 1.9 gb usb and 2.5gb HDD but hdd ist parted but its only shown as empty
[12:12] <Emanon> seriously its running windows 7 on a 2.5g disk?
[12:12] <Emanon> that seems hinky
[12:12] <umang> Do I have to install IcedTea to get Java applets to work? I installed sun-java6-plugin and Firefox still cribs about plugins that need to be installed. When it gives me options, I can choose the sun plugin but it says already installed in the next step.
[12:12] <Gnoxter> 250gb Im sorry
[12:12] <Emanon> oh ok
[12:13] <archboxman> erUSUL: so I am going to update to windows 7 so I can play Bad Company 2 ..... were is the cheapest copy I can get windows 7
[12:13] <Emanon> umang: try sun-java6-plugin
[12:13] <dr3mro> please i use karmic and my network stopped working i can only log to other computers by smb://ip and i cant see any pc on my lan and i cant share any think if i share a folder it is not accessible and windows pc is prompted for user and password when they try to acces my computer .. using ubuntu karmic and laptop with wireless connection and when i try dpkg-reconfigure samba i get (   sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s' ) please help
[12:13] <Emanon> in synaptic
[12:13] <Gnoxter> I also tried wubi but It always tells me that there is no Root-Data-System (dunno the correct english word) selected....
[12:14] <Emanon> hmm Gnoxter might try calling up the oem and asking for an actual restore disk
[12:14] <Emanon> as opposed to the restore partition
[12:14] <umang> Emanon, "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" gave "sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version."
[12:15] <archboxman> dr3mro: had similar problem touched my graphics card because I was going to install a new one took down my ethernet port go figure...
[12:15] <umang> Emanon, I've tried restarting FF 3 times already.
[12:15] <Emanon> was just gonna ask that good job
[12:15] <umang> Emanon, Anything else I can try?
[12:15] <Emanon> you have scripts allowed in firefox?
[12:16] <Emanon> Edit>Preferences>Content
[12:16] <archboxman> Emanon: we generally us add ons...
[12:16] <Emanon> see if the javascript box is checked
[12:17] <umang> Emanon, JS is enabled.
[12:17] <Emanon> hmm idk then that IS funky
[12:17] <archboxman> Emanon: Sorry
[12:17] <umang> Emanon, I'm being asked to install missing plugins.
[12:18] <umang> Emanon,  Shall I try IcedTea?
[12:18] <Emanon> worst that could happen is it doesnt work and your no worse off i suppose
[12:18] <ZZstart> who know ubuntu china channel
[12:18] <Emanon> try uninstalling java first so they dont interfere with each other (idk if they do)
[12:19] <Emanon> !cn | ZZstart:
[12:19] <stanman246> got ubu 9.10 on my laptop, can i 'use' the laptop a as wifiaccesspoint?
[12:19] <ZZstart> thank ..
[12:19] <Emanon> welcome
[12:19] <Gnoxter> my netzbook does not have a cd tray but i can get into the recovery console via safeboot
[12:19] <umang> Emanon, If they did, then they should have "Replaces" or "Conficts" in the package. So I'm just going to install directly...
[12:20] <Gnoxter> what should it help`?
[12:20] <Emanon> okidoke
[12:20] <dr3mro> help my ubuntu is visible and not accessible on network i use karmic and evey time i share a file over network windows pc prompted with user and password
[12:20] <Sh3r1ff> stanman246: yep
[12:20] <tassiebear> hi room
[12:20] <BadElvis> hello can someone read me?
[12:21] <Gnoxter> tried karmic, the lts version and kubuntu, xubuntu and whatever.
[12:21] <Emanon> might have them send you a usb cd drive too Gnoxter hehe
[12:21] <tassiebear> i just got a Lenovo t410...but no luck with wireless.  Any ideas?
[12:21] <Emanon> might try UNR but thats not relevant to your problem just a suggestion Gnoxter
[12:21] <umang> Emanon, 33.6MB? OK. I'll have to wait for my early morning free internet usage for that... Anyway, I'll look for bugs filed against the sun plugin to see if I can get anywhere. Thanks for your help, anyway! :)
[12:21] <Emanon> it was MADE for netbooks after all
[12:21] <Emanon> hope it gets settled umang
[12:22] <Gnoxter> what is unr?
[12:22] <umang> Emanon, Thanks. I'll let you know
[12:22] <Gnoxter> the netbookremix?
[12:22] <Emanon> Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[12:22] <Emanon> !unr
[12:22] <Gnoxter> I tried but didnt work
[12:22] <tassiebear> anyone having success with the new Thinkpads?
[12:22] <Emanon> hmm
[12:22] <REAL1> hello there...
[12:22] <REAL1> got some problem
[12:22] <REAL1> real1@avocado:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:22] <REAL1> E: Type 'W��K' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:22] <REAL1> any idea?
[12:22] <FloodBot2> REAL1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Emanon> if your brave might scrap win7 outright but that would have to be your choice
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: you screwed up your sources.list
[12:23] <tassiebear> hello
[12:23] <REAL1> i try to generate a new one. it dosnt change anything
[12:23] <REAL1> .
[12:23] <Gnoxter> unr showed the partitions in the menu but not in the installer and also not in gparted
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1:
[12:23] <REAL1> its just say the same error over and over.
[12:23] <umang> Emanon, OK. I guess I know what might be going wrong. I've got FF from ubuntuzilla. I'll see if there is anything I can do, otherwise I'll try from the default FF>
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:23] <ikonia> REAL1: can you poastebin your sources.list
[12:23] <REAL1> roger that, doing that.
[12:23] <Emanon> ahh ive found the daily builds to be a little unnerving as well hehe
[12:24] <Semiramide> hi ubunpeople
[12:24] <Emanon> hi Semiramide
[12:24] <Semiramide> ciao
[12:24] <BadElvis> hello can someone read me?
[12:24] <REAL1> oh.
[12:24] <REAL1> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list is fuc*ed up.
[12:24] <Emanon> what you need BadElvis?
[12:24] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: voila the reason why it plants ;)
[12:25] <BadElvis> i m only testing my irc thanks
[12:25] <REAL1> well., how can ichange it?
[12:25] <BadElvis> emanon
[12:25] <Emanon> oh ok
[12:25] <REAL1> its not the same as /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:25] <Emanon> yea I can read you
[12:25] <REAL1> not the same file?
[12:25] <Emanon> no
[12:25] <Emanon> apparently
[12:25] <REAL1> so, what should be there?
[12:25] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:25] <antony> hi i am new to ubuntu i had some audio issues can anybody help me
[12:25] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, then what
[12:26] <Emanon> what you need antony
[12:26] <Gnoxter> I dont want to scrap win7 out cause I need it for work. any other idea
[12:26] <Gnoxter> ?
[12:26] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: put correct info in it ;)
[12:26] <REAL1> what info.
[12:26] <REAL1> the same as the soucres.list file?
[12:26] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: the sources you want to use
[12:26] <antony> my headphone has distortion while using softphones like xlite
[12:26] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, what the, in the 9.10, sources.list dosnt count any more?
[12:27] <Emanon> might try shrinking the win7 partition from inside as much as possible to front of drive then ubuntu to back of drive and expand once installed Gnoxter
[12:27] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: sure it does, but in sources.d you can place other files contain different sources
[12:27] <hexdump_> does anybody know anything about using dyndns?
[12:27] <Emanon> on a side not ive found Ubuntu-Tweak to be very useful http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[12:28] <Gnoxter> formating is dofficult from win7 starter-. I'll try that
[12:28] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: http://www.dyndns.org
[12:29] <hexdump_> Sh3r1ff:  I tried going there I couldn't figure it out.  I setup everything right I thought.
[12:29] <hexdump_> that's cool I just thought I'd ask.
[12:30] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, tnx a LOT.
[12:30] <silidan> Hi id like to setup an electronic shop using ubuntu, i have no experience with such things so id like to ask if you can point me into the right direction to get started (are there any easy to get started open source solutions, what would you recommend to read about, etc...)
[12:30] <REAL1> you have now saved my sources! :D
[12:30] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what did you set up?
[12:30] <jastor> silidan: apache2, php5-(and stuff), mysql
[12:31] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  I tried to setup a domain name for my IRC server, SMTP, web server and ftp and it just doesn't work.
[12:31] <umang> Emanon, lp:509727 had the workaround. It works now.
[12:31] <hexdump_> I don't want to run it in windows
[12:31] <jastor> silidan: when thoose are installed and set up... search for free php shopping cart on google
[12:31] <Emanon> cool
[12:31] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: you created an account? you have updated your account with the correct ip?
[12:32] <Emanon> a personal finance program would not go amiss either silidan
[12:32] <Emanon> maybe homebank
[12:32] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  sure did and I'm running the ddclient on my linux box
[12:32] <Sh3r1ff> silidan: but be carefull with code you find on the internet
[12:32] <jastor> i assumed that paypal or similiar was going to be used ;)
[12:33] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: and what is the eaxct problem?
[12:33] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  the ip is not resolving to a domain name
[12:33] <Semiramide> sorry, is possible in 1 LAN have 2 DNS 1 for every computer?
[12:33] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: you mean the domain name is not resolving to an ip?
[12:33] <jastor> if hes going to charge creditcardshimself :P ... then ssl .. and a lot of securitystuyff from visa/mastercard their 3d secure stuff ;)
[12:33] <hexdump_> sure sorry
[12:34] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what's the domain name?
[12:34] <Semiramide> o they works well
[12:34] <Semiramide> OpenDNS and Telecom IT
[12:34] <neil_d> when useing a LiveCD where are the changes stored?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  to ram...
[12:34] <silidan> Jastor, Emon, thanks will read up about that...
[12:34] <SirLinux> Morning :-)
[12:35] <wejick> hey i want to remaster ubuntu livecd. need your guide
[12:35] <wejick> SirLinux, night!
[12:35] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: is the ip correct?
[12:35] <neil_d> Dr_Willis: yeh.. I know to ram... but is it a ram disk?
[12:36] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what's the correct ip?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  basically.
[12:37] <neil_d> Dr_Willis: can I access that data?  or is it hidden somehow.
[12:37] <wejick> hey i want to remaster ubuntu livecd. need your guide. what i have to do?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  no idea. never wanted to or tried.
[12:38] <Emanon> wejick: might consider the Ubuntu Customization Kit package (UCK)
[12:38] <Cube``> how can i set my color profiles in ubuntu? i have an eee-pc (= no on-monitor keys to adjust monitor settings), and colors look totally different than on my desktop
[12:38] <neil_d> wejick: I am using http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd
[12:38] <wejick> Emanon, i'll check it
[12:38] <hexdump_> sh3r1f:  that isn't my ip
[12:39] <Emanon> http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[12:39] <wejick> neil_d, i'll check it too
[12:39] <Emanon> documentation link on left side of that
[12:39] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: can you give me the correct one?
[12:39] <jose__> ola
[12:39] <wejick> Emanon, how about reconstructor?
[12:40] <Emanon> i hear good things but i've never used it so can't comment
[12:40] <underdev_> hi!  i'm running 9.10, and in the process of removing a piece of software, my printer configuration got removed from the System->Administration menu?  Any idea how to get it back?
[12:41] <underdev_> i would REALLY appreciate the help!
[12:41] <Sh3r1ff> underdev_: readd the printer like you did the first time? ;)
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> underdev_:  try running    system-config-printer     from a terminal - see if that works?
[12:41] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  did anything show up at all when I gave you the ip?
[12:42] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: never got the ip
[12:42] <neil_d> when using a LiveCD is there any way to access what has been changed... there is a tmpfs filesystem on /cow    but there is no such directory.
[12:43] <underdev_> thanks- it prompted me to install system-config-printer-gnome, and that brought it back
[12:43] <underdev_> THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
[12:43] <Cube``> anybody?
[12:43] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: what you mean by changes?
[12:43] <silidan> question, can a once installed Ubuntu on a PC run on every other PC with the same CPU architecture but different hardware configurations ?
[12:43] <underdev_> really thought i might be hosed!!!
[12:44] <jastor> silidan: sometimes
[12:44] <wejick> silidan, i think it will run
[12:44] <jastor> silidan: but expect that theres a proabable chance of some errors somewhere ;)
[12:44] <Sh3r1ff> silidan: possible not all hardware will work
[12:44] <iceroot> silidan: yes but maybe you have to install additional drivers
[12:44] <Emanon> silidan: often provided you dont remove driver packages
[12:44] <iceroot> silidan: but linux is not like windows with crashing on other hardware
[12:45] <Emanon> yea it will just revert to a generic driver until you get the right ones
[12:45] <jastor> silidan: if its a custom kernel for the other computers specific hardware ;) then id just reinstall
[12:45] <Emanon> proprietary or otherwise
[12:45] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: on the dyndns site, does it show the correct ip?
[12:45] <Emanon> right but if its just a custom package set for one computer it will probably be ok
[12:46] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: when a file is changed.. the change must be stored somewhere.. do you know where?
[12:46] <silidan> ok thanks, so i might get the machine i like first running as a virtual machine and then just copy paset it to a harddrive?
[12:46] <Emanon> or dd it anyways silidan
[12:46] <Emanon> or dcfldd at that
[12:46] <silidan> dd=?
[12:46] <wejick> silidan, use migration tool from your vm
[12:46] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: it is stored in ram
[12:46] <Emanon> bit for bit copy from one location to another
[12:47] <Stargaze> FYI => http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4653463/full%20circle%20all
[12:47] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  sure does
[12:47] <Emanon> so dcfldd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 would copy sda1 to sdb1 bit for bit
[12:47] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: yes.. i know... but where?  in a ram disk somewhere I think..
[12:47] <Emanon> an exact copy
[12:47] <jastor> silidan: i dont know about what the others think :P but to me isntalling to a vm first and then move it to a real computer just seem like alot of uneccessary work and waste of tiem :)
[12:47] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: ram is not a disk ;)
[12:47] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  you don't have to worry about it if you don't feel like it.  did the ip work at least?
[12:48] <Emanon> or dcfldd if=/somefolder/somevirtualdisk of=/dev/somedrive would do the same from a disk image
[12:48] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: it can be..
[12:48] <wejick> hey all i need your suggestion for wordpress client for gnome/gtk env
[12:48] <nickfu> dian
[12:48] <Emanon> idk jastor i find when reinstalling customers OS its easier to just put their drives in my machine and install them in a virtual machine than to bring their whole computer over to my house and fund space for it
[12:48] <nickfu> w
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> sss
[12:48] <FloodBot2> nickfu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <abhi_nav> I want to know why people use mail clients(thunderbird,kmail,outlook etc)? if we go to web and access email then we can access it from anywhere in world. but if we use mail client then all our previous emails are in our pc only. then we cant access them from anywhere? I am confused if i should use mail client or not? so just wanted to know why you use mail client?
[12:49] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11373115/Memory__Module__DDR__RAM.jpg
[12:49] <Emanon> i use evolution abhi_nav so i dont have to check my email it just tells me when i have a message
[12:49] <jastor> Emanon: there are always exceptions ;) i wasnt talkign generally .. only about this one :)
[12:49] <abhi_nav> Emanon: hmm
[12:50] <hexdump_> abhi_nav:  some people can use SMTP servers to send anonymous e-mails and use social engineering.
[12:50] <wejick> abhi_nav, i use m.gmail.com
[12:50] <Emanon> as well as some nice security functions (digital signatures encryption added spam filtering virus scanning etc)
[12:50] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: if the site is updated with the correct address, but nslookup gives a wrong ip, i would try to contact the support of dyndns
[12:50] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  thanks a bunch
[12:50] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: /dev/shm is a disk that is only in ram hence a ram disk.
[12:50] <Emanon> cause whether or not its harmfull to me its nice to scan things before i email them to people who use windoze
[12:51] <abhi_nav> hexdump_ & wejick ok
[12:51] <Emanon> and further to the dcfldd convo its really nice as a secure file deletion tool hehe
[12:51] <abhi_nav> Emanon :-)
[12:51] <MacVirus> hj
[12:52] <Emanon> just shy of microwaving the drive
[12:52] <JasonXXXX> ok
[12:52] <sam_sam> whats the difference between wget and curl ?
[12:52] <jastor> hexdump_: not to mention that unless you live in a easterneurope country (poland for example. .. that damn spammer .. dont remmeber what his ip is ;) but he deos alot of spamming) the ISPs in any sane country would block that kind of smtp traffic ;)
[12:52] <wejick> hey all i need your suggestion for wordpress client for gnome/gtk env
[12:52] <Emanon> some geeks prefered command structure i assume sam_sam
[12:53] <jastor> wizkoder: wordpress client? any browser should be able to access wordpress
[12:53] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  when I run nslookup is it supposed to give me a different ip?
[12:53] <hexdump_> is that ISP info errr?  I'm a big n00b if you can't tell so I don't know much
[12:53] <wizkoder> jastor: Wat?
[12:53] <sam_sam> i can upload with curl , but can one upload with wget ?
[12:53] <maco> wizkoder: tab screwup
[12:53] <Emanon> might try typing wordpress into synaptic wejick there are only a few default options
[12:53] <wejick> jastor, i have limited and low internet connection so i need it
[12:53] <jastor> wizkoder: sorry .. mt
[12:54] <maco> wizkoder: jastor was aiming for wejick
[12:54] <hexdump_> jastor:  yeah I know what ya mean
[12:54] <maco> wejick: tomboy, included by default, has an option to post to a blog
[12:54] <maco> wejick: if you install tomboy-blogposter plugin
[12:54] <hexdump_> jastor:  somebody could just setup a smtp server and allow an outsider to use it tho right?
[12:54] <wejick> maco i dont use mono ;) any sugestion.
[12:54] <Guest24187> i want to make a botable usb to wool my dhcp server then reboot my diskless frontend
[12:55] <sam_sam> O:-)
[12:55] <abhi_nav> thanx all of u!!!
[12:55] <hexdump_> sh3r1f nm I think I got it
[12:55] <maco> wejick: blogtk is in the repo. never tried it. if you dont mind a kde app, bilbo is what i use
[12:55] <hexdump_> I mean I don't have it working but I'll try and figure it out.
[12:55] <jastor> ip-91.189.223.10.skyware.pl <-- was the polish spammer i was talkign about
[12:55] <wejick> i use gnome-panel blog plugin but it has limited feuture
[12:56] <jastor> hexdump_: yes there are anonymous smtp servers like that .. just not as common today as for .. 10 years ago
[12:56] <hexdump_> jastor:  can't even be sure if he is polish anyway
[12:56] <hexdump_> jastor:  well if there is money in it, it will be common
[12:56] <jastor> hexdump_: no idea :) all i know is taht that host is black or graylisted in alot of places ;)
[12:56] <archboxman> If I want to play Bad Company 2 on my pc can I use windows xp??
[12:56] <wejick> maco, bilbo? is it support tagging?
[12:56] <maco> wejick: yes
[12:57] <fabio333> plymouth & kms on ati: possible?
[12:57] <hexdump_> jastor:  I'm amazed at the amount of unsecured wireless networks around
[12:57] <jastor> hexdump_: i dont doubt taht for a second
[12:57] <sam_sam> how do i ask ubottu to tell about some command to someone  ?
[12:57] <Emanon> archboxman: if it runs on windowsxp i assume
[12:57] <Emanon>  ! the command | the person
[12:57] <jastor> hexdump_: but hopefully, your mail provider use a fairly reasonable graylist
[12:57] <abhi_nav> !hi | sam_sam
[12:57] <indus> archboxman, yes why wouldnt it run on xp
[12:57] <abhi_nav> !hi > sam_sam
[12:57] <wejick> maco, ah i'll need huge kdelib
[12:57] <sam_sam> !wget | sam_sam
[12:57] <hexdump_> yeah, well I gtg all and try to figure this crap out
[12:58] <Guest24187> i want to make a bootable usb to wol my dhcp server then reboot my diskless frontend any o?s suggestions
[12:58] <jastor> hexdump_: have fun
[12:58] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: haa haa haa
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: /dev/shm is not a disk ;)
[12:58] <sam_sam> it doesnt know about wget :(
[12:58] <hexdump_> jastor:  see ya sh3r1ff:  see ya thanks again
[12:58] <indus> archboxman, its off topic but ,...... if you have vista or 7 it will be in directx 10 or it will fall back to direct x 9
[12:58] <maco> wejick: what i used to do was just type my html in a text file then paste it into wordpress when i got online
[12:58] <archboxman> indus: getting a lot of flack about dx 9, 10 and 11 is there that big of difference??
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: booting from a live cd doesn't touch your disks
[12:58] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: you can do this also: /msg ubottu <command>
[12:58] <hexdump_> Sh3r1ff: sorry to bother you again, but did that ip end up working when you tried to connect to it?
[12:58] <indus> nope
[12:58] <indus> its marketing bulls*it
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: didn't try to connect to it
[12:59] <sam_sam> thanks abh_nav
[12:59] <maco> indus: language
[12:59] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: hmm
[12:59] <hexdump_> oh okie np
[12:59] <hexdump_> I'll talk to ya's later
[12:59] <indus> ah ok maco sorry
[12:59] <Emanon> indus: is right tho maco
[12:59] <Emanon> thats the only word for it
[12:59] <archboxman> indus: that is what I wanted to here.. figured you had a head on shoulders ... thanks... :)
[12:59] <wejick> maco, if you have 33 k bps Internet connection you will know what i mean.
[12:59] <jastor> Sh3r1ff: trying to get others to connect to you? sure you got an external ip?
[12:59] <maco> Emanon: "poo"?
[12:59] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: A disk is a block device.. If a chunk of RAM is a block device.. doesn't that mean its a disk (from a certain view point).
[12:59] <maco> wejick: eek!
[12:59] <indus> i just received my bc 2 copy today !!!!!! archboxman
[13:00] <indus> archboxman, will go home now and install
[13:00] <wejick> maco, o not 33 kbps but 3-33kbps
[13:00] <Emanon> doesnt accurately portray the level of loserness inherent in that program
[13:00] <peppo> anyone know how what to trace these Epiphany JS errors to: http://pastebin.com/DXmXE9ji ? <- a large portion of the web is broken because of this 2.29.92
[13:00] <archboxman> indus: dont rub it in what other computer games you play???
[13:00] <indus> off topic
[13:00] <archboxman> ok
[13:00] <jastor> linux is cheating on teh whole 32bit system max 4GB memory allocating buisness ;) .. now i got 4GB usable as ram even with my graphics card :P so instead of 4GB-512MB as normal ;) its like 4GB+512MB adressed
[13:00] <sam_sam> wow !
[13:00] <indus> archboxman, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:00] <Sh3r1ff> jastor: ??? i was just saying that i didn't try to connect to the ip hexdump_ gave me
[13:01] <jastor> Sh3r1ff: ah .. ok .. missed that part :)
[13:01] <maco> jastor: is called PAE and its an extension available in newer processors
[13:01] <bouma> hey well could someone please help me get smb sharing going between a ubuntu 9.10 fresh install and xp
[13:01] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: it might not have a spinning platter.. but to the OS it doesn't care if a block device uses a spinning platter and a magnetic serface.
[13:01] <jastor> Sh3r1ff: thought it was your ip :)
[13:01] <bouma> cause ive got 3 people waiting for me
[13:01] <jastor> maco: ok :)
[13:01] <bouma> plz
[13:02] <jastor> bouma: webmin ... as easy as it can get
[13:02] <malan> hi
[13:03] <bouma> i've tried clicking on the sharing options but when i click on it in the xp share, it gives me an alert and red exclamation and tells me its not accessible cause i dont have permission, this is after i select guest access on linuix
[13:03] <bouma> jastor: how do i do that ?
[13:03] <Emanon> just make a direct connection to the target ips from linux side using login info from xp side
[13:03] <jalons> Sound in flash has ceased working in Chrome (youtube videos) - any ideas where to start?  I don't see a log file in /opt/google/chrome and sound is still functional in audacious (PulseAudio)
[13:04] <bouma> Emanon: dont know what you mean
[13:04] <kaolbrec> jalons, occasionally, an application may be unable to access the sound server while other applications are using it
[13:04] <abhi_nav> !wow > sam_sam
[13:04] <bouma> jastor: well even if you could give me a fool proof paste into smb.conf i would be happy
[13:04] <jastor> bouma: http://www.webmin.com   download install login through your browser .. its quick and painless and lets you set up about anything on a linux machine
[13:04] <Emanon> Places>Network
[13:05] <Emanon> then look in the windows network folder
[13:05] <bouma> jastor: for real
[13:05] <Emanon> should have any active machines on network
[13:05] <jalons> kaolbrec: isn't that the reason PulseAudio exists?  To basically proxy in frond of the device?  Also, would pfiles (erm, lsof?) show what PIDs are attempting to access /dev/audio?
[13:05] <Emanon> double click on one enter user name and password as if you were logging into the target and you have administrative share access
[13:05] <Emanon> that means the whole drive
[13:05] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: i was talking in terms of ram being volatile, disks not
[13:05] <kaolbrec> jalons, I believe so, and I don't know
[13:06] <kaolbrec> jalons, all I know is that i had a similar problem with fceu
[13:06] <dany> hi all
[13:06] <kaolbrec> jalons, the solution was to shut down other applications accessing sound, and then run fceu.
[13:07] <arvind_khadri> !panels | arvind_khadri
[13:08] <sam_sam> lots of indians here nowadays :)
[13:08] <jalons> Every time I try linux on the desktop sound is always what pushes me away :)
[13:08] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: hmm :-)
[13:09] <sam_sam> time to leave :) thanks guys and bye all ,bye abhinav
[13:09] <selsy> my ubuntu desktop windows don't appear. any window opens in full screen without the option to minimize or restore. can any one help me out?
[13:09] <dany> hi all
[13:09] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: bye :)
[13:09] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: ok!  but the computer does not know it volatile..  but then a Compact Flash card is memory and not volatile..
[13:09] <dany> I have updated the sourcelist
[13:10] <dany> because I wanted to install virtualbox but I see only the version 3.0 and not the 3.1
[13:10] <ndo> Hi guys, can someone give me a hint on whats happening here? http://pastebin.com/4VCWhscz
[13:10] <ndo> or what do i do with that
[13:10] <DarkStar1> afternoon people I need help with something stupid I just did
[13:10] <dany> solved
[13:10] <dany> thanks anyway
[13:10] <abhi_nav> dany:
[13:10] <jalons> ndo: repo not found - dns issue or the repository is down
[13:11] <ndo> hmm
[13:11] <arvind_khadri> ndo, ask in #fedora or #redhat
[13:11] <ndo> merci
[13:11] <DarkStar1> I plugged my ubuntu drive into another base unit to use it as the primary boot drive
[13:11] <Starcraftmazter> j #ubuntu+1
[13:11] <Pici> ndo: We don't use yum in Ubuntu, are you using Ubuntu?
[13:11] <Starcraftmazter> jj
[13:11] <Starcraftmazter> ><
[13:11] <ndo> im using fedora, but does it matter
[13:11] <ndo> :)
[13:11] <maco> ndo: yes
[13:11] <jastor> doesnt centos use yum ?
[13:11] <jastor> ;)
[13:11] <bazhang> ndo, #fedora
[13:11] <maco> jastor: yes
[13:11] <arvind_khadri> ndo, apparently it does
[13:11] <ndo> yeah right guys.. :)
[13:11] <ndo> :p
[13:12] <lao5> my flash player is always stuck on 49:xx. only reloading the firefox could solve.
[13:12] <ndo> linux is linux for me
[13:12] <lao5> how to deal with it
[13:12] <abhi_nav> ndo: for me too
[13:12] <ndo> and i like this channel, but for mow need some server functions :)
[13:12] <maco> ndo: then you havent learned the ins and outs of various distros very well
[13:12] <DarkStar1> when I log in normally I think the main issue maybe with my GPU driver because My monitor give me an error message. however I can't log into a non gui'ed ubuntu to try and do anything
[13:12] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: your question was where does the live cd stores changes, my answer was in ram, what does a flash card has to do with that?
[13:12] <Pici> ndo: Well we use apt, not yum, so you aren't going to get any help here with yum.
[13:13] <jastor> ndo: you say the same that win 3.11 and windows 7 are the same too? ;)
[13:13] <selsy> my ubuntu destop windows don't appear. any window opens in full screen without the option to minimize or restore. can any one help me out?
[13:13] <abhi_nav> ndo: but preferable use respective distro's channel its useful for user and helpers. since it may happend that someone wants to help you dont know how to do things on fedora
[13:13] <ndo> okay, anyway, back to the problem, repo is not found... what shall i do next, lets think :)
[13:13] <maco> ndo: ask in #fedora
[13:13] <Pici> ndo: /join #fedora
[13:13] <maco> selsy: a window manager inst runnign then
[13:13] <DarkStar1> Anyone follow my problem pls?
[13:14] <maco> selsy: open a terminal and type "metacity --replace" and hit enter
[13:14] <brontosaurusrex> any special reason why webmin is not in the repos?
[13:14] <maco> !webmin | brontosaurusrex
[13:14] <abhi_nav> !ebox
[13:14] <eliana> hola
[13:14] <ndo> okey, gus, fedora redirected me to fedora-unregistered, and i joined my old favorite channel :) but ill have to register there i guess then
[13:14] <brontosaurusrex> maco, abhi_nav thnaks
[13:15] <ndo> and 3.11 and 7 are same ^^
[13:15] <ndo> j/k
[13:15] <abhi_nav> brontosaurusrex hmm
[13:15] <bouma> harro
[13:15] <bouma> # A sample share for sharing your CD-ROM with others.
[13:15] <bouma> [cdrom]
[13:15] <bouma>    comment = Samba server's CD-ROM
[13:15] <FloodBot2> bouma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:15] <bouma>    read only = yes
[13:15] <bouma>    locking = no
[13:15] <selsy> maco, thank you. ijust run the command but no change
[13:15] <abhi_nav> ndo register your channel to join fedora then
[13:15] <maco> selsy: did it say anythng?
[13:15] <abhi_nav> ndo sorry,register your nick to join fedora then
[13:15] <mawst> Has anyone here successfully changed the grub menu theme?
[13:16] <mawst> (grub2)
[13:16] <bouma> whats wrong with samba, why wont xp read it, it winges about not having access
[13:16] <selsy> it failed to read session file
[13:16] <bouma> ive got security=share
[13:17] <selsy> maco, it says it failed to read session file
[13:17] <mawst> Is there a way to use adduser that doesn't make the person show up in gdm?
[13:18] <Pici> mawst: I *think* that users whose UIDs are less than 1000 will not show up in gdm.
[13:18] <Kentrel> Hi, I just installed a graphics tablet. Whats the command to see which device its using?
[13:18] <maco> mawst: one of my friends wrote a series of grub2 tutorials which may be helpful http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/
[13:18] <bouma> srsly can anyone give me a smb.conf entry hat will let me share to xp ??/
[13:19] <Slyboots> Is there any way to get GRUB to boot from a GPT partiton, ubuntu keeps formatting my disks in gtp instead of MBR
[13:19] <Slyboots> And it screws up the install
[13:19] <bouma> rhinux=fail
[13:19] <mawst> Thanks maco
[13:19] <maco> selsy: i dont know
[13:19] <Xserver> how do i check the package version available in repository ?
[13:20] <llutz> Xserver: apt-cache policy
[13:20] <iceroot> Xserver: apt-get update && apt-cache show policy packagename
[13:20] <iceroot> Xserver: -show
[13:20] <Guest84674> hi, how do i check for current governor cpu freq via terminal ?
[13:20] <selsy> maco, thanks for the help
[13:20] <iceroot> Guest84674: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:21] <maco> Xserver: if you want to see what a package's version for every current release of ubuntu at once, "rmadison <package>"
[13:21] <Pici> Xserver, maco: you'll need devscripts installed for that iirc.
[13:22] <Slyboots> Anyone here had any luck installing GRUB on disks that are 2tb or larger?
[13:22] <Guest84674> iceroot, thanks but i could not find the governor
[13:22] <Slyboots> The auto-installer keeps formatting the disk as GPT which.. stops GRUB from working
[13:23] <ddavids> pls i cant recover my system from sleep...i have to do a hard reset...
[13:23] <Slart> GPT? what is that?
[13:23] <dj_segfault> Slyboots: I've never tried that, but I assume you would run into similar problems as with the old 1024-sector limit, with a similar workaround: Create a boot partition near the beginning of the disk and everything should work.
[13:24] <Slyboots> dj_segfault: Wont help, Im setting up a server so i has to be in a RAID array
[13:24] <jeeves_Moss> I have an Acer D150, and I can't figure out for the life of me how to track down a serious bug.  I can be using my system, and the screen goes totally blank.  I've tested it in windows (no issues there), and when the screen blanks, the WiFi card appiers to still be transmitting, however, I can't shell into it.  anyone with ideas how to track this down?
[13:24] <llutz> Guest84674: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governo
[13:24] <llutz> r
[13:24] <Slyboots> Need /boot to be RAID1 array, so creating the MSDOS partion wont help in the event of a disk-crash
[13:24] <Guest84674> iceroot, which governor am i using ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394008/
[13:25] <iceroot> Guest84674: what is a governor?
[13:25] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: Sounds like the kernel is fine and X is dying or comatose.  Can you kill X and see what happens?
[13:25] <Guest84674> llutz, can i set the powersave as the default governor after booting ?
[13:25] <iceroot> Guest84674: both cpu cores are running with 1100mhz
[13:25] <Kentrel> The latest version of Ubuntu is supposed to support Wacom graphics tablets out of the box, but I can't get it to work
[13:25] <llutz> Guest84674: you should
[13:25] <bazhang> Kentrel, karmic 9.10 ?
[13:25] <Guest84674> iceroot, it is somekind of cpu scaling
[13:26] <Kentrel> baz, yes
[13:26] <llutz> iceroot: a governor is a sheme cpufreq controls the frequencies
[13:26] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, as I said, I don't have a screen.  I have to hard reboot it.  I've tried the key combo to get to shell (ie. ctrl+alt+f<key>, then logging in, and nothing)
[13:26] <harisund> Any idea how I can change GDM to allow XDMCP login through the command line?
[13:26] <llutz> iceroot: http://www.redhat.com/docs/wp/performancetuning/powermanagement/governor_types.html
[13:26] <Guest84674> llutz, what do i have to do to set the powersave as the default ?
[13:27] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: Do you have another machine you can ssh in from?  Sorry I misread your original post
[13:28] <Guest84674> llutz, i've used echo powersave /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor in /etc/rc.local but the scaling back to ondemand after a minute or so
[13:28] <POGBDOM\regmtim0> hi im having some trouble mounting a floppy, when I try mount /dev/fd/0 i get mount: /dev/pts/1 is not a block device
[13:28] <estricuxi> de donde soys??
[13:28] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, I tried, and it refuses the connection (both WiFi and wired).  and since we're on a netbook, I don't have serial to connect in with (and I don't know where my USB to serial adaptor is)
[13:28] <fabio333> ... /dev/fd/0? maybe /dev/fd0
[13:28] <estricuxi> de españa??
[13:28] <Slyboots> So, no-one knows of a workaround for this issue?
[13:29] <Pici> !es | estricuxi
[13:29] <overmind> !es | estricuxi
[13:29] <Slyboots> I've tried using fdisk to partition the disk manually, but the partitioner just wipes the disk again
[13:29] <POGBDOM\regmtim0> mount dev/fd0 gives mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device.  Can i add it to block devices
[13:30] <Slyboots> Well.. Where do I go to report a bug in the installer then?
[13:30] <llutz> Guest84674: install cpufreqd and edit /etc/default/cpufreqd
[13:30] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: This is a bit of a long shot, but can you WIn-Space to launch gnome-do and then run some app that would cause some visible action, like ping or eject?  Or just shut down?
[13:30] <maco> Slyboots: graphical or text based installer?
[13:30] <Slyboots> Text based
[13:30] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, win-space?  you mean the key combo?
[13:30] <maco> Slyboots: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+filebug
[13:31] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: Yes.
[13:31] <Kentrel> How do I find out which device in /dev/input is my graphics tablet?
[13:31] <Kentrel> by-id    event0  event2  event4  event6  mouse0
[13:31] <Kentrel> by-path  event1  event3  event5  mice    mouse1
[13:31] <fabio333> POGBDOM\regmtim0: is it there?
[13:31] <Xserver> why is radiusd missing when i install it from package repository ?
[13:31] <Guest84674> llutz, will do.. i'll report after
[13:31] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, I'll try that next time.  Is there anything in the logs that you can think of, or could I write a "trap" script that'll launch when I do a macro to scrape some logs @ that point
[13:32] <llutz> Guest84674: theres also cpufrequtils , i'm not sure which of these would do the better job
[13:32] <iceroot> llutz: thanks for the info
[13:33] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: Unless you frag your hard drive from shutting down, all you have to do is reboot and loot at the right time in the logfiles.  No need to do anything fancy.
[13:33] <Xserver> is radiusd a seperate package in karmic ?
[13:33] <Xserver> i am unable to find the executable
[13:33] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, that's what I did last time, and there was no serious issues I could find in the logs.  it's like X just took a vacation (or ODed on something good!  LOL)
[13:34] <harry-houdini1> hello here is somthing i thought i understood...but i guess not... I do an ln -s /iso iso and it maps the path iso/iso/<data> I would like it to map to the iso folder in the current directory like this iso/<data> is this even possible?
[13:34] <ddavids> pls i cant recover my system from sleep...i have to do a hard reset...wht do i do?
[13:35] <AceKing> When installing updates, should I keep the current grub or choose a different one?
[13:35] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: I often find that when that happens; nothing in the logs.  What I've done in the past is write a cron job that does a ps -aux every few minutes to a timestamped file and deletes those files over an hour old.
[13:36] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, hummmm
[13:36] <philipp__> mhm
[13:36] <philipp__> das ist doch mist
[13:36] <dj_segfault> AceKing: Unless you've modified them yourselves in some special way, use the new one
[13:36] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, is there a command that checks all of your system configs, etc for errors?  kinda like apache does?
[13:36] <guxhaxhi> hola a todos
[13:36] <Ranakah> anybody know, how stabble is ubuntu 10.04? it's safe to upgrade it from 9.10?
[13:37] <llutz> !lucid > Ranakah
[13:37] <philipp__> ubuntu is shit
[13:37] <iceroot> philipp__: you have a support-question?
[13:37] <AceKing> dj_segfault, Thanks, I kept clicking on keep current because it was set that way by default
[13:37] <DJones> !language | philipp__
[13:37] <Ranakah> tnx :D i search this chann but forget what name is :D
[13:37] <philipp__> German
[13:37] <llutz> philipp__: demand a refund and troll off
[13:37] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: Not one central thing.  It would have to keep up on the development of hundreds of third party projects.  However, what I have on my system is another cron task checkhealth.sh that I constantly add things to, like file permissions that sometimes go wrong, etc.
[13:38] <coachz> can get git to install to /usr/local/bin  instead of /usr/bin   using yum ?
[13:38] <yOoLii> ola
[13:39] <philipp__> could somebody help me with ubuntu?
[13:39] <masu3701> what do i use to burn iso file into cd in ubuntu?
[13:39] <yOoLii> ola
[13:39] <yOoLii> oal
[13:39] <yOoLii> aol
[13:39] <dj_segfault> coachz: Why not just create a symbolic link?
[13:39] <coachz> brilliant !
[13:39] <coachz> thanks
[13:39] <dj_segfault> masu3701: brasero works well, but I prefer the power of k3b
[13:39] <harry-houdini1> never mind figured it out shouldnt have been using relative paths
[13:39] <POGBDOM\regmtim0> fabio333 fd is listed as a block device in /proc/devices but 'mount /dev/fd someDir' gives mount: /proc/5618/fd is not a block device
[13:40] <mike123> hello, could anyone explain how do i patch my kernel? im tring to install drivers and i need to patch the kernel and the drivers
[13:40] <AceKing> philipp__, just ask your question
[13:40] <mike123> im new to linux
[13:40] <guxhaxhi> #latin
[13:40] <mike123> i have the patch code posted on a website, and i kinda dont know what to do with it
[13:41] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, ahhhhh, that's cool.
[13:41] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, all I know is that it's not cool that windows 7 is more stable!  LOL
[13:41] <researcher1> why do virtual windows  programs slow down very much
[13:42] <mike123> anyone ?
[13:42] <dj_segfault> jeeves_Moss: I'm all for a better Windows.  Fewer pwned boxes sending out spam
[13:43] <jeeves_Moss> dj_segfault, this is true.  I love Ubuntu as a sys admin for fixing p0wned windows networks.  I have no issues with hooking up my netbook to a totally infected network to fix things
[13:43] <ndo> i find it actually so sorry that i have to go to other channel only because my problem is caused by yum and not apt :(
[13:43] <masu3701> how to i extra .rar file in ubuntu?
[13:44] <jrib> !rar | masu3701
[13:44] <dj_segfault> masu3701: unrar
[13:46] <mike123> anyone can help with patching kernel ?
[13:47] <guxhaxhi> #ubuntu-es
[13:49] <Slyboots> So.. Thre is no way apparently to boot on large 2tb disks with your /Boot in a RAID1 array
[13:49] <Slyboots> Unless I create this "BIOS boot area" on the disks, which Im not really sure will help if the disk-crashes
[13:50] <omar> Hi everyone
[13:50] <Laylabm> Hmmm probably common question, how do i restore Vista without harming my dual boot?
[13:51] <omar> I would like to know how to make work  an Adesso CyberTablet 12000 in ubuntu, can somebody help me?
[13:52] <arand_> Laylabm: "Restore" in what way?
[13:53] <Laylabm> i'm not sure, just want to get rid of some programs that can't be deleted,a nd start fresh, on vista that is
[13:53] <Laylabm> im no professional on vista nor linux]
[13:53] <bazhang> Laylabm, windows help in ##windows
[13:53] <omar> I would like to know how to make work  an Adesso CyberTablet 12000 in ubuntu, can somebody help me?
[13:54] <Laylabm> ok bazhang, i'll ask there too
[13:54] <yabir> hge
[13:54] <yabir> hello
[13:55] <lst_> Hello, need som help patching wine. Im realy new to linux and the how to doesnt tell me much. When i click the link for the buggpatch i get to a site with a nice wall of text. Iv saved the buggpatch as a diff file. what should I do with it? If anyone cant point me to a real easy howto or help me. (I havent found any good links about this on google)
[13:55] <hexdump> sh3r1ff:  well I ran diagnostics on my domain name and came back with errors
[13:55] <hexdump> sh3r1ff:  first failure Your nameservers return different sets of NS records.
[13:55] <THalnew> i'm on ubuntu 9.10 64bit. i can't use GnoMenu anyone can help me... please
[13:56] <hexdump> sh3r1ff:  second failure: Check for missing nameservers
[13:56] <THalnew> i can try to GnoMenu 2.2
[13:56] <omar> Please some help, I would like to know how to make work  an Adesso CyberTablet 12000 in ubuntu
[13:56] <hexdump> If I can't fix that crap I'm just going to give up on it and return to coding again.
[13:57] <hexdump> If I can't figure out how to get that working how am I going to learn to code?  damnit
[13:58] <Laylabm> bazhang they told me to come back here and ask here
[13:59] <Laylabm> they said something about grub
[13:59] <hexdump> Done shuttin' down this project
[13:59] <Laylabm> Hope was sucessful project :)
[13:59] <hexdump> I need a drink... talk to ya's later
[14:00] <SandGorgon> anyone using network-manager's VPN tab to connect to a vpn ? why is all my traffic being routed through VPN ? I dont want that
[14:00] <malan> hello world
[14:00] <malan> i'm new on canal
[14:01] <omar> I would like to know how to make work  an Adesso CyberTablet 12000 in ubuntu, can somebody help me, please?
[14:03] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 Laylabm
[14:04] <Laylabm> ubuntu 9.04 is grub2?
[14:04] <erUSUL> Laylabm: no; no by default
[14:04] <bazhang> Laylabm, no regular grub
[14:04] <kjelle> hey. I'm using gpg through a script/daemon which is stated upon boot from /etc/init.d/<scriptfile> using start-stop-daemon. When the script uses gpg, it finds no keys. If I stop the script, and start it by had, it's all fine. What can be wrong?
[14:05] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub Laylabm
[14:05] <Althal> hi ! Can anyone pleased help me with squidGuard
[14:06] <Laylabm> GrubLegacy?
[14:06] <masu3701> how do you burn a ISO file using brasero?
[14:06] <aboSamoor> I can not write on ext4 partition, I think there is a problem with the mounting. The partition belongs to root group instead of plugdev ?!
[14:07] <scunizi> aboSamoor: then it would be a problem with permissions.. sudo chown <yourUser>:<yourUser> /media/<partition name>
[14:07] <erUSUL> masu3701: one of the five big buttons at the left when you launch the app is "Burn Image"
[14:08] <masu3701> erUSUL: the file is in .rar ....do i need to extract it first?
[14:08] <erUSUL> masu3701: probably
[14:08] <masu3701> ok
[14:10] <root51> how create background in boot loader
[14:10] <root51> im using grub2
[14:10] <itheos> my Sirius USB2.0 Camera isnt working. it is well detected by applications but i see a black screen. i hope there is a solution :)
[14:10] <root51> anyidea in grub2
[14:11] <root51> to create backgound menu in boot loader
[14:12] <root51> there is no menu backgroudn in startup  manager
[14:12] <itheos> my Sirius USB2.0 Camera isnt working. it is well detected by applications but i see a black screen. i hope there is a solution :)
[14:13] <root51> available for ubuntu karmic
[14:13] <scunizi> !bootsplash | root51
[14:13] <lus> :)
[14:13] <ddavids> pls i cant recover my system from sleep...i have to do a hard reset...wht do i do?
[14:13] <root51> menu
[14:13] <root51> menu boot loader
[14:13] <scunizi> ddavids: laptop?
[14:13] <ddavids> scunizi: karmic desktop pls...
[14:14] <scunizi> ddavids: how big is your swap partition?
[14:14] <root51> your universe
[14:14] <itheos> any help guys?
[14:14] <itheos> and gals too
[14:14] <root51> menu backgound please in boot loader
[14:14] <ddavids> scunizi: how do i check tht pls
[14:14] <sate> hey the new version of opera is still not ready for ubuntu, is that correct?
[14:16] <itheos> do i have to install wingdows again?
[14:16] <sate> for what?
[14:17] <sate> Use virtual box and install a windows on there
[14:17] <itheos> sate, my Sirius USB2.0 Camera isnt working. it is well detected by applications but i see a black screen. i hope there is a solution :)
[14:17] <aurorixi> ola
[14:17] <scunizi> ddavids: you can use "partition manager" aka. gparted to check.. swap should be 2x your ram for sleep to work.. of course this is no guarantee.
[14:17] <MgMt> for some reason my computer keeps freezing on a black screen, i think its a kernel panic, but i dont know why its doing it.  its usually when im using transmission
[14:17] <aurorixi> xzchfv ydcgf
[14:17] <aurorixi> kfhjn
[14:17] <sate> two people with black screen issues
[14:18] <root51> im worry about my menu boot loader
[14:18] <MgMt> most likely cuz im running "sudo transmission" because i dont have "permission" on the storage device
[14:18] <sate> itheos:  if you are not happy with ubuntu, you could try linux mint.  It's a little more windows oriented, and may have the fix for your camera
[14:19] <scunizi> MgMt: that's nuts.. if you have root access change the permission on the storage device..
[14:19] <itheos> sate, i am very happy with ubuntu :) its just the webcam that disappointed me
[14:19] <MgMt> scunizi i tried several times it keeps coming back the same
[14:19] <MgMt> permission denied your not the owner
[14:19] <mawst> Not happy with Ubuntu? wth?
[14:19] <MgMt> or something to that effect
[14:19] <sate> itheos:  can you run it in wine?
[14:20] <scunizi> MgMt: ok.. then you need to change the owner.. sudo chown <yourUser:yourUser> /media/<partition name> ... all that without the "<"'s
[14:21] <itheos> sate, everything is working fine. the drivers are installed. the applications pretend to show it. but i get a black screen. so it seems to be a small problem now
[14:21] <MgMt> ok
[14:21] <benkong2> 1/j #linuxmint
[14:21] <sate> itheos: does it stop responding?
[14:21] <itheos> nops
[14:21] <itheos> it gives a black screen
[14:21] <sate> itheos: what video card do you have'
[14:22] <itheos> some apps do jam
[14:22] <MgMt> chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda2': Operation not permitted
[14:22] <MgMt> thats what ive always got when i tried that
[14:22] <scunizi> MgMt: you have to use "sudo"
[14:22] <MgMt> did
[14:22] <MgMt> i put in my password and imediately got that
[14:22] <sate> itheos: is it possible to run that same program in WINE, to see if that fixed the black screen issue?
[14:22] <itheos> sate, its really slow :D
[14:22] <MgMt> do i have to unmount the device?
[14:22] <itheos> i dont have windos drivers
[14:23] <scunizi> MgMt: you could try it unmounted.. what file system is it?
[14:23] <MgMt> vfat/fat32
[14:23] <sate> itheos: have you tried installing restricted drivers?
[14:23] <itheos> i didnt install actually. its inbuilt i think
[14:23] <scunizi> MgMt: this might be an fstab issue then.. but first try to change the owner after unmounting it.
[14:24] <harisund> How do I find out which is the nearest LUG or Ubuntu users group near where I live?
[14:24] <TestPilot> hey, how do I reconfigure (as in ./configure --options..etc.) my php configuration on ubuntu with the lamp default configuration?  need to do it for this http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html#obtaining-horde-groupware-webmail-edition
[14:24] <sate> itheos:  try installing restricted drivers, and other drivers
[14:24] <Pici> !loco | harisund take a look here
[14:24] <MgMt> i gotta leave for work, ill do that when i get home.  i also tried to fix the issue with pysdm
[14:24] <harisund> thanks pici
[14:24] <itheos> sate, how do i know what drivers i should install?
[14:25] <sate> oh boy, you new to ubuntu?
[14:25] <itheos> v4l drivers?
[14:25] <sate> goto system > administration > hardware drivers
[14:26] <TestPilot> hey, how do I reconfigure (as in ./configure --options..etc.) my php configuration on ubuntu with the lamp default configuration?  need to do it for this http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html#obtaining-horde-groupware-webmail-edition. Anyone????
[14:26] <itheos> sate, you can call me a noob if you help me set up my cam :)
[14:26] <pavansss91> hi
[14:26] <sate> Unfortuanatly I've never set up a cam before, not even on windows
[14:27] <aurorixi> hello
[14:27] <aurorixi> hello
[14:27] <itheos> the hardware drivers window has opened but its blank
[14:27] <aurorixi> what your name
[14:27] <aurorixi> ??
[14:27] <sate> one second
[14:28] <aurorixi> camon
[14:28] <sate> itheos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[14:28] <itheos> ok thanks
[14:28] <scunizi> itheos: have you done all your updates?
[14:28] <sate> itheos:  that has some useful information on restricted drivers
[14:29] <aurorixi> what your name???
[14:29] <frankS2> How can I make pulseaudio accept several audio input streams? Like I cant play music in mpd and  listen to something at youtube at the sametime
[14:29] <itheos> scunizi, not yet :D
[14:29] <scunizi> itheos: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .... dist-upgrade won't take you to the next release.
[14:29] <itheos> aurorixi, i am bill gates.
[14:29] <SeLeNa> ola
[14:29] <itheos> scunizi, thanks. but i want to upgrade to karmic soon
[14:30] <aurorixi> jajaja que me lo creo yo habla en español plis
[14:30] <scunizi> aurorixi: for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:30] <minky> Hi all - how do i get folders in a window (i.e. not just in a command window), numbered as decimals to sort correctly in number order. at present i get 0 0.1 0.002 0.03 etc.
[14:30] <DJones> aurorixi: #ubuntu is a support channel to help people using the Ubuntu operating system, if you have a support question, feel free to ask it here, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:30] <SeLeNa> holaaaa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[14:30] <DJones> !es | aurorixi
[14:30] <scunizi> itheos: that line won't take you to karmic.. it will only upgrade your system
[14:30] <itheos> i know :) not that much noob
[14:30] <aurorixi> ok graciax
[14:31] <scunizi> itheos: ah ok.. then upgrade and then look in system > admin > hardware drivers.
[14:31] <itheos> ok thanks
[14:32] <hellhound> hello, I was wondering if someone tried to run fancontrol on a lenovo 3000 n500
[14:33] <hellhound> I did modprobe coretemp but seems as if my hardware doesn't support PWM control
[14:33] <minky> second question how do i rename multiple folders from e.g. 0.3.12234 to 0.12234 i.e I want to lose the .3 ?
[14:33] <cfedde> minky: rename can do that.  See 'man rename'
[14:33] <marta> ola,soy marta
[14:34] <Pici> minky: something like: rename s/\.3\././ *.12234
[14:34] <marta> k tal???
[14:34] <Pici> !es | marta
[14:34] <marta> jajaja qe te lo crees tu
[14:35] <ginva> Where can I find info on Intel I5 support in Karmic. Graphics card especially.
[14:35] <marta> ok
[14:35] <minky> Thanks I've been trying rename but couldn't get the syntax right. I'll try it again
[14:35] <marta> when do you live minky??
[14:35] <Pici> marta: This channel is for Ubuntu support only for chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[14:36] <minky> Pici you're a star
[14:36] <itheos> :)
[14:36] <marta> minki when do you live
[14:36] <marta> ??
[14:36] <minky> first question again - how do i get folders in a window (i.e. not just in a command window), numbered as decimals to sort correctly in number order. at present i get 0 0.1 0.002 0.03 etc.
[14:36] <itheos> why do i think we have bots in here?
[14:36] <marta> yes
[14:37] <minky> marta - now!
[14:37] <minky> where - uk
[14:37] <marta> hello what your name
[14:37] <marta> ???
[14:38] <darkstar1> Hi all I just re-installed kharmic however at the end of the installation I got an error message saying that gimp was unable to install into the /target directory. I haven't rebooted yet for fear of not being able to get back on but I would like to know why this is,
[14:38] <jrib> minky: use a for loop: loop over filenames and use some dummy variable i that you increment each loop to name the files
[14:38] <sometux> \o
[14:38] <motaka2> hello, how can i add a new font to my ubuntu?
[14:39] <jrib> minky: wait I misread.  sort /where/?
[14:39] <motaka2> 8.04
[14:39] <sometux> \o/
[14:39] <kaolbrec> motaka2, open the font file, and click install, iirc
[14:39] <jrib> !fonts | motaka2
[14:39] <darkstar1> Anyone ever had the same problem?
[14:40] <minky> jrib - rename problem sorted by Pici but have trouble with: how do i get folders in a window (i.e. not just in a command window), numbered as decimals to sort correctly in number order. at present i get 0 0.1 0.002 0.03 etc.
[14:40] <motaka2> jrib: i am totally newbie , may you help me?
[14:40] <hellhound> what can I do if don't have PWM devices installed to control the fan speeds?
[14:42] <jrib> minky: you mean in nautilus?
[14:42] <jrib> motaka2: read ubottu's link
[14:42]  * vycdin is back (gone 05:06:49)
[14:42] <hellhound> the app sensors shows my core temperatures at 70 celsius
[14:42] <jrib> vycdin: turn that off please
[14:43] <motaka2> jrib: not understandable for me, i am in hurry
[14:43] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[14:43] <jrib> motaka2: me too :)
[14:43] <motaka2> can any one tell me how can i add a font to ubuntu?
[14:43] <jrib> motaka2: I just did, did you even open the page?
[14:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto motaka2
[14:44] <motaka2> jrib: yeah i opened it and i dont have any idea
[14:44] <jrib> motaka2: did you read it?
[14:45] <motaka2> jrib: i am reading it
[14:45] <jrib> motaka2: good :)
[14:45] <motaka2> jrib:  i have a font
[14:45] <motaka2> jrib: but i dont know anything about terminal commands
[14:47] <jrib> motaka2: good, because you don't need to.  Just create ~/.fonts and put your font there.
[14:47] <Zenker> does anyone know the differance between the simple ccsm and the other one?
[14:48] <vikram> does anyone know a good material on kernel module programming? Except the LKMPG..
[14:48] <motaka2> what do you mean by create ~/.fonts
[14:48] <motaka2> ?
[14:48] <dj_segfault> I'm trying to "apt-get install libapache2-svn" and getting "ERROR: Module dav_svn does not exist!"
[14:48] <itheos> arent there restricted drivers for intel cards?
[14:49] <vikram> does anyone know a good material on kernel module programming?
[14:50] <motaka2> how can i add a new .ttf font to my ubuntu 8.04?
[14:50] <Andy-at-home> guys, ive tried installing mysql a few times but everytime i do i always receive the error ' Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[14:50] <ginva> Any info on Karmic support for Intel Core I5 processors?
[14:50] <Andy-at-home> i didnt set a password last time so that I could discount that
[14:51] <vikram> andy: try reinstalling mysql
[14:51] <qUaNtiC_> hi is there a software to check the ink cartridges level of the printer for ubuntu? thanks
[14:51] <Andy-at-home> yeah ive tried that a few times
[14:51] <Andy-at-home> i seem to keep missing the same thing
[14:52] <Andy-at-home> im logged in to my VPS with ssh
[14:52] <vikram> how come? if u do have probs
[14:52] <vikram> do use sudo tasksel
[14:52] <vikram> to install lamp server
[14:52] <itheos> ok thanks anyways :) cya
[14:52] <Andy-at-home> ah, nah i installed it all seperately
[14:53] <vikram> u will then have apache php mysql
[14:53] <Andy-at-home> i wanted lighttpd
[14:53] <velocitozzo> come merda si usa?
[14:53] <vikram> so u getting only the password problem
[14:53] <vikram> ??
[14:53] <Andy-at-home> when i netstat it says its running at 127.0.0.1
[14:53] <Andy-at-home> :3306
[14:53] <vikram> thats localhost
[14:54] <Andy-at-home> yeah
[14:54] <vikram> its correct..
[14:54] <Andy-at-home> but i always get the access denied
[14:54] <genii> !it | velocitozzo
[14:54] <Andy-at-home> i didnt set the password
[14:54] <mrandrzejak> good morning all! does gmail support PGP?
[14:54] <vikram> check if mysqld is running
[14:54] <Andy-at-home> this time
[14:54] <selsy> my nautilus window borders do not show. every window opens maximized. can anyone help out?
[14:54] <motaka2> jrib: help me?
[14:54] <Andy-at-home> since its in netstat does that not mean its running?
[14:54] <mrandrzejak> selsy... are you running netbook version?
[14:55] <Andy-at-home> can see it in htop as well
[14:55] <bjlen> hi anyone know where to find a GUI for imagemagick?
[14:55] <Time`s_Witness> Hey all :)
[14:55] <Andy-at-home> so it is running
[14:55] <dess> hola
[14:55] <Zenker> whats the difference between the simple ccsm and the advanced one/
[14:55] <vikram> i think then u should reinstall mysql without forgetting to give your PASSWORD!!
[14:55] <selsy> mrandrzejak: no, desktop version 9.1
[14:55] <dess> hay alguien?¿
[14:55] <dess> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:55] <Andy-at-home> I gave it a password the first couple of times i installed it
[14:56] <Andy-at-home> still had the same error
[14:56] <Pici`> !es | dess
[14:56] <Andy-at-home> what command should I use to connect to it?
[14:56] <dess> hola
[14:56] <preposteruss> so you don't get root access to ubuntu, just sudo ?
[14:56] <vikram> how come??
[14:56] <Andy-at-home> mysql -u root -p
[14:56] <Andy-at-home> ?
[14:56] <dess> eh?¿
[14:56] <vikram> thats correct
[14:56] <Time`s_Witness> Me and a friend tried several times ubuntu, (and he tried also debian), we are both new to linux, and we always ended up screwing the OS for... as far as we understand, updating or installing software. Is this normal to happen? Talking by myself i just instaled one of the times, one single software that didn't come by default in synaptics: teamspeak 2 client:s
[14:56] <preposteruss> i don't like that i don't have access to my own root account
[14:57] <selsy> mrandrzejak: the problem started after i run an update to my system
[14:57] <dess> adios xao
[14:57] <vikram> have u tried mysql -u root?
[14:57] <SeLeNa> ola
[14:57] <preposteruss> lemme go to that machine and try that
[14:57] <Andy-at-home>  Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[14:57] <Andy-at-home> same again
[14:57] <SeLeNa> olaa
[14:57] <Andy-at-home> how to i uninstall it?
[14:57] <mrandrzejak> selsy: it sounds like what happens when installing the netbook remix onto a regular ubuntu install. netbook version pops all windows full screen. i forget the packages that do that though
[14:58] <Andy-at-home> how do*
[14:58] <DarkStar> what is the terminal command to clear the screen?
[14:58] <vikram> apt-get remove mysql!!!
[14:58] <genii> DarkStar: Did you try: clear               ?
[14:58] <vikram> its better u go to tasksel n install lamp
[14:58] <Andy-at-home> heres hoping 4th time lucky
[14:59] <Andy-at-home> can i use lighttpd with that?
[14:59] <DarkStar> aahh.. lol.. I was trying clrscr ans cls
[14:59] <vikram> ya
[14:59] <DarkStar> and*
[14:59] <PSPdemon> are there any debs in the repository that are armv6
[14:59] <vikram> use sudo taskse
[14:59] <vikram> *tasksel
[14:59] <PSPdemon> as im having problems finding them
[14:59] <PSPdemon> and the ones from debian are armv4
[14:59] <vikram> u get a window inside terminal where u need to mark lamp n then tab to 'ok'
[15:00] <Andy-at-home> yeah inside it now
[15:00] <vikram> havent u used tasksel before??
[15:00] <Andy-at-home> nah mate, pretty new to ubuntu and linux
[15:01] <Stargaze> tasksel = task select, to install a server within an existing ubuntu
[15:01] <velocitozzo> !list
[15:02] <velocitozzo> !bot
[15:02] <arvind_khadri> velocitozzo, /msg the bot
[15:02] <Time`s_Witness> humm anyone here that could guess what's a newbie's problem please? :P
[15:02] <selsy> mrandrzejak: do the packages have netbook in them?
[15:02] <velocitozzo> cacca
[15:02] <Time`s_Witness> Me and a friend tried several times ubuntu, (and he tried also debian), we are both new to linux, and we always ended up screwing the OS for... as far as we understand, updating or installing software. Is this normal to happen? Talking by myself i just instaled one of the times, one single software that didn't come by default in synaptics: teamspeak 2 client:s
[15:03] <sun> hi
[15:03] <Slyboots> Odd question.. how do I know if my Ubunut install has loaded /boot.. ?
[15:04] <hardcampa> Having 2 monitors for my mighty laptop, I can't move a window from one screen to the other, I can however move the mouse cursor. Is it possible when you got "Separate x screens" to make dragging work? As it is now it only flips workspace.
[15:04] <Zenker> what is the difference between simple ccsm and advanced ccsm?
[15:04] <Slyboots> Im just testing something (raid..) / is missing so its dumped me into the Initramfs so.. it *found* boot and loaded that up at least ya?
[15:04] <Guest34476> Ciao a tutti
[15:04] <PSPdemon> are there any debs in the repository that are armv6
[15:04] <anita> olaQ
[15:04] <PSPdemon> as im having problems finding them
[15:04] <PSPdemon> and the ones from debian are armv4
[15:04] <anita>  que tal?
[15:04] <anita>  quien r4eresQ
[15:05] <Guest34476> problema con chiavetta alcatel x215s
[15:05] <sevenseeker> python-qwt5-qt4 requires python-sip4 >= 4.9:  python-sip4 == 4.10 and installed... why does python-qwt5-qt4 complain about python-sip4 not being able to be installed?  (if installed qwt wants to remove sip4)
[15:05] <DarkStar> I have another problem. I'm currently booted into the livecd at the moment and I'm trying to mount my root partition except the mount returns the following error message: "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist" can someone pls help?
[15:05] <Guest34476> non si riesce a collegare
[15:05] <TestPilot> hey, how do I reconfigure (as in ./configure --options..etc.) my php configuration on ubuntu with the lamp default configuration?  need to do it for this http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html#obtaining-horde-groupware-webmail-edition. Anyone????
[15:05] <overmind> !it | Guest34476
[15:06] <bastien> salut
[15:06] <bastien> join #ubuntu-fr@irc.freenode.net
[15:06] <Guest34476> Very problem to interface with connect Alcatel x215
[15:06] <Stargaze> !fr| bastien
[15:07] <Guest34476> is possible to link or drive
[15:07] <bazhang> bastien, /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:07] <DarkStar> anybody??
[15:08] <Zenker> what is the difference between the advanced compiz settings manager and the simple one?
[15:09] <DarkStar> please?
[15:09] <chiossif> DarkStar: reply your question... new guyz are getting in... like me :-)
[15:11] <DarkStar> chiossif: I'm currently booted into the livecd at the moment and I'm trying to mount my root partition except the mount returns the following error message: "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"
[15:12] <chiossif> DarkStar: there is an error in your spelling
[15:12] <chiossif> DarkStar: use gparted to see what you've got
[15:12] <DarkStar> lready did that
[15:13] <Zenker> can i switch between ubuntu and windows without shutting one down and starting the other?
[15:13] <lao5> virtual machine
[15:13] <PSPdemon> ^
[15:13] <PSPdemon> but ofcourse if what you are asking is
[15:14] <PSPdemon> "can i boot into my windows partition via linux and vice versa without rebooting"
[15:14] <PSPdemon> thats a no
[15:14] <Zenker> dang, anyone know the answer to my other queston?
[15:14] <DarkStar> chiossif: Actually Gparted is also showing me some errors when I pull up info on the disk: dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[15:15] <DarkStar> choi
[15:15] <chiossif> DarkStar: can you use the disk at other partitions?
[15:16] <DarkStar> chiossif: and another: e2label : ... Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock
[15:16] <PSPdemon> meh....looks like my question is too specific/technicaly to come up with a answer :/
[15:17] <DarkStar> chiossif: only one partition on it so far, and I just used gparted to shrink the linux partition
[15:17] <AlveKatt> Hey. I have an ice.net d50 modem. Need it working in Ubunu or manage to share connection with my windows laptop via cable.
[15:18] <DarkStar> PSPdemon: do you meand load windows or access your windowsdirectory
[15:18] <PSPdemon> DarkStar, neither
[15:18] <DarkStar> PSPdemon: sorry for the typos
[15:18] <PSPdemon> my question was is there a way to browse the repo's for armv6 built debs
[15:18] <PSPdemon> or a place to get armv6 debs
[15:19] <dfadfafd> am unable to connect to the windows share using nautilus... using smbclient..  any help..?!
[15:19] <PSPdemon> debian's arm builds are based around armv4
[15:19] <PSPdemon> and ubuntu supposedly has armv6
[15:19] <PSPdemon> but their site doesnt list the arm arch debs so i can access them via packages.ubuntu
[15:20] <DarkStar> PSPdemon: I only browsed as far as your last question which was about booting into windows fom Linux and vice versa
[15:20] <PSPdemon> DarkStar, that wasnt my question
[15:20] <PSPdemon> that was a answer to a question
[15:20] <jvm_> hi. how do i get ubuntu 9.10 to not make an annoying sound when gdm starts up?
 can i switch between ubuntu and windows without shutting one down and starting the other?
[15:20] <PSPdemon> that was the question asked that i answered :P
[15:21] <DarkStar> PSPdemon: My apologies
[15:21] <PSPdemon> no problem
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> jvm_:  i use a tool called 'gdm2 setup' that lets you change that and other settings.
[15:21] <PSPdemon> hey Dr_Willis
[15:21] <PSPdemon> long time no see
[15:21] <PSPdemon> :P
[15:21] <DarkStar> afk
[15:22] <abhi_nav> Jayant you there?
[15:23] <paolo> avatar
[15:23] <milosz3> Hey
[15:23] <milosz3> How can I create an USB bootdisk?
[15:23] <jvm_> Dr_Willis, it seems not to be in the ubuntu repositories?
[15:25] <Benwa> Hi, is there any way to get a flash player on ubuntu ppc? It does not work with gnash nor swfdec. And i cannot install firefox and adobe-flash-player with playonlinux or wine.
[15:25]  * Beelsebob notes that the european mirrors suck
[15:25] <Beelsebob> downloading from UK mirror: 200k/s, from swedish mirror: 160k/s, from US mirror: 780k/s
[15:26] <mneptok> Benwa: Adobe does not make a Flash plugin for Linux/PPC
[15:26] <ikonia> Benwa: there isn't a flash player that's really working any more for Linux/PPC
[15:27] <Pici> Beelsebob: If you mean us.archive.ubuntu.com.... its in the UK.
[15:27] <Benwa> Grrrrrr....
[15:27] <Beelsebob> Pici: I mean the server I get if I select US from the location list, and then click download – which appears to be in boston
[15:27] <kmahl> how do i exit from root in the terminal?
[15:27] <ikonia> kmahl: how did you get into root ina  terminal
[15:27] <kmahl> sudo su
[15:27] <genii> Gah
[15:28] <Beelsebob> ikonia: in general – don't
[15:28] <ikonia> kmahl: ok - then you should know how to exit if you're at that level
[15:28] <Beelsebob> just use sudo for the command you want to run as root
[15:28] <kmahl> nope :P
[15:28] <ikonia> Beelsebob: you don't what ?
[15:28] <ikonia> kmahl: then you shouldn't use dangerous commands like sudo su
[15:28] <Beelsebob> ikonia: don't run as root in a terminal
[15:28] <ikonia> kmahl: type "exit"
[15:28] <ikonia> Beelsebob: I didn't say you did
[15:28] <Beelsebob> ikonia: instead, just sudo the command you want to run as root
[15:28] <Pici> Beelsebob: ikonia is answering a question, not asking :)
[15:28] <bulltitan> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed with default gnome desktop, can i install the netbook remix desktop as well do i need to add repository
[15:28] <kmahl> ikonia: thanka
[15:28] <Beelsebob> ikonia: oh fail, I misread you >.<
[15:28] <ikonia> no problem
[15:29] <Pici> Beelsebob: Ah.  You can look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors for a list of mirrors by location, bandwidth, and update status.
[15:29] <Beelsebob> cheers Pici – much usefulness
[15:30] <bulltitan> in a few words my question is if i can install the unr desktop without installing the whole thing from cd
[15:31] <hyperstream> nighty night :P
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> bulltitan:  yes you can. I forget the meta package name however.
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> bulltitan:  you can have some quirky issues if you have gnome and 'unr desktop' both installed however
[15:34] <jh2os> hey should I have a /boot partition?
[15:34] <bulltitan> hum that's why they removed the old desktop switch in 9.10 instalation i guess
[15:34] <paolo> avatar xdcc
[15:34] <Pici> !piracy | paolo
[15:35] <seyacat> hi ubuntu
[15:36] <seyacat> someone knows to use ubiquity from non livecd?
[15:42] <abhi_nav> seyacat what is ubiquity?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> the name of the Ubuntu Installer
[15:42] <t3cki3> guys i need help installing "asterisk now" on a solaris box using virtual box 3.1.4
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> I think. :)
[15:42] <abhi_nav> hmm
[15:43] <zinox> how i do to change ubuntu boot splash? because i have removed kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu splash keep working yet.. i just want the good old ubuntu boot slash again
[15:44] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, can anyone explain to me where meta-data went in Amarok? how do I look at my music by Author, Genre, year, etc? it's all just folders!
[15:45] <Pici> t3cki3: Solaris? You're asking in #ubuntu, surely this would be better for #solaris or #asterisk
[15:46] <t3cki3> thankx... Pici
[15:46] <abhi_nav> zinox see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307450 #10th post
[15:47] <seyacat> i have Ubiquity installed on pendrive... i can make particions and others, buy i cant install system, i think i dont have obiusly a source, but how can i put this sistem source on my pendrive?
[15:48] <helo> the ubuntu unr installation didn't create a working grub setup
[15:48] <helo> it is trying to search based on uuid and failing, and also using the uuid as the root fs, which fails unless i set it to /dev/sda1
[15:48] <perfectdrug> hi, I installed digikam on lucid(gnome) and now I have "open with konqueror" and "open with dolphin" in my right click context menu, i think with karmic this wasn't the case? Can I get rid of it easily?
[15:49] <zinox> abhi_nav, thanks
[15:49] <helo> i just need to know what i should change in 10_linux that would cause /dev/sda1 to be used as root
[15:49] <abhi_nav> zinox hmm :)
[15:49] <helo> instead of the uuid
[15:49] <epaphus> Hello, when i edit the settings in the Remote Desktop control panel.. on what file is that stored?? also if i want to allow remote access on my public IP (i have a public ip on this box) do i need to do anything special??
[15:50] <myky> ola
[15:50] <myky> al fin
[15:50] <myky> chulo
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> helo:  as a test you can edit teh grub boot lines from teh grub menu and try replaceing the uuid= stuff with /dev/sdXX
[15:50] <helo> i can edit the files that say "DO NOT EDIT THIS! YOU MUST EDIT ARCANE AND OSTENSIBLY OBFUSCATED FILE h344hf1334ff.2341, WHICH GENERATED THIS FILE!"
[15:50] <myky> helo
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> helo:  its odd that the UUID issnt working
[15:50] <helo> yes, that's how i got it to boot
[15:51] <helo> i just removed the search line entirely, and changed root=/dev/sda1
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> helo:  correct - you dont edit that file.     Ive never noticed a general way to not use UUID - unless its in /etc/default/grub perhaps
[15:51] <helo> ahh, forgot about that one
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> helo:  :) its right there in the comments. :)
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> helo:  not sure what else that setting may do however.
[15:54] <mawst> I still haven't figured out how to theme grub
[15:54] <schertzer> #spip
[15:55] <abhi_nav> mawst: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 themes section
[15:55] <olskolirc> can someone send me a private message so that I can see if im registered please?
[15:56] <ddrj> hai
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> olskolirc:   Why would that show you are registered?
[15:56] <abhi_nav> olskolirc type /msg nickserv info olskolirc
[15:56] <Pici> olskolirc: You aren't identified. see /whois olskolirc and /msg nickserv info olskolirc
[15:57] <Oasa> guys,,, i have a 25 gb partition wher xp is installed and a 60 gb partition where ubuntu is installed .. i wud like to increase d xp partition to 30 gb... is der any way widout any loss of data?
[15:57] <mawst> hmm yeah they show themes but link to more vague pages
[15:57] <mawst> hehe
[15:57] <abhi_nav> :(
[15:58] <doolph> anyone know how to install an init script to run at start ?
[15:58] <arch0njw> doolph: if you have the script, just put it in /etc/init.d and make sure it is executable (chmod +x ...)
[15:59] <doolph> just did that
[15:59] <rfa_> doolph sysv-rc-conf
[15:59] <Oasa> i have a 25 gb partition wher xp is installed and a 60 gb partition where ubuntu is installed .. i wud like to increase d xp partition to 30 gb... is der any way widout any loss of data?
[15:59] <rfa_> Oasa dont do that
[15:59] <erUSUL> doolph: now do sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[15:59] <Oasa> why rfa_ ?
[15:59] <doolph> k thnx
[16:00] <oru_work> does anyone know how to change user's password using phpmyadmin ?
[16:00] <DavidJHeinrich> how do I add my music to Amarok?
[16:00] <rfa_> Oasa you can loose your data
[16:00] <Oasa> why rfa_  ?
[16:00] <rfa_> Oasa better make new partition from ubuntu
[16:01] <nikolaj> hey
[16:01] <rfa_> Oasa when increase you can lose your data
[16:01] <harisund> Is the Firefox that gets installed by default on Ubuntu 64 bit also 64 bit Firefox .. ?
[16:01] <Oasa> rfa_ but i can risk losing d data of win xp... i dont mind to reinstall.. but is there a way ?
[16:01] <arch0njw> Oasa: You can shrink the Ubuntu partition using a gparted LiveCD, but I would strongly urge you to backup your data first.
[16:01] <BlazeXI> testing
[16:01] <aboSamoor> any idea where can I get free arabic fonts ?
[16:01] <nikolaj> need help sorry :( How can i get my original /home partition to be recognised at /home after having had to install ubuntu again in the boot partition?
[16:01] <Oasa> why archonjw?
[16:02] <Oasa> hmmm yeah live cd i forgot about that.. thank you... :D
[16:02] <kbrosnan> harisund: correct
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  edit /etc/fstab to mount the actual home partion to /home
[16:02] <harisund> kbrosnan: thanks :)
[16:02] <erUSUL> nikolaj: writte an entry in fstab to make the parition your home folder. done
[16:02] <arch0njw> Oasa: Then you can use gparted to increase the size of the XP partition.  I am assuming the disk is presently completely used.  If it isn't, you can simply use gparted to increase the partition size ... depending on the partition layout.
[16:02] <DavidJHeinrich> also, why does Amarok want to open Kwallet?
[16:03] <nikolaj> ok, would you be able to make it clearer, I am not the expert at the moment
[16:03] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor : install your language fonts from system=>preferences=>language support select arabic and install
[16:03] <epaphus> Hello, when i edit the settings in the Remote Desktop control panel.. on what file is that stored?? also if i want to allow remote access on my public IP (i have a public ip on this box) do i need to do anything special??
[16:03] <arch0njw> Oasa: why backup the data?  You're changing the definition of the partition.  Nothing is fool proof; there is always a change of data loss when doing that.
[16:03] <Oasa> okay arch0njw thanks..
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | nikolaj
[16:03] <MakuraRyu> is there a good guide for setting up a wpa-psk with AES encryption completely from cli?
[16:03] <Eladio> CAPULLO
[16:04] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, I made that, now in firefox I am choosing one of the arabic fonts but still no change
[16:04] <Eladio> HABLA ME EN ESPAIN
[16:04] <Pici> !es | Eladio
[16:04] <arch0njw> !es | Eladio
[16:04] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor : in that case visit any of your language major newspaper website and there you wll see option of arabic font
[16:04] <erUSUL> nikolaj: a line like this « UUID=<you_home_part_uuid_here> /home ext4 defaults 0 2 » will make your old home the new home
[16:04] <clinton> Is this the place to ask a question for Ubuntu Server installation, or is there another channel?
[16:05] <Eladio> TONTA
[16:05] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor :take that font from there and see if it works
[16:05] <rfa_> Eladio go out
[16:05] <erUSUL> nikolaj: after a reboot and checking that everything is ok ( the usernames an all that are the same right?? )
[16:05] <nikolaj> right i am just trying to link that to what i know
[16:05] <abhi_nav> clinton #ubuntu-server
[16:05] <Darkstar1> Are there issues surrounding installation of ubuntu on a system with an IDE and a SATA drive(s)?? I ask because I;m getting an endless list of problems trying to install kharmic on the SATA drive I just plugged into a base unit with an IDE drive.]
[16:06] <ikonia> Darkstar1: no issues at atll
[16:06] <arch0njw> Oasa:  I should have provided a link:  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:06] <Oasa> thanks again. bye. let me check it out
[16:06] <nikolaj> yup
[16:06] <nikolaj> user names are the same
[16:07] <mawst> abhi_nav: do you use graphical grub?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> Darkstar1:  ive instaleld on such systems befor.. be VERY carefull when you set what drives to install/partion/format. I accidently thought /dev/sda1 was a SATA drive.. when it was my IDE data drive. :)
[16:07] <nikolaj> basically earlier i had the problem that i couldn't get to the log on screen... after taking my laptop apart and trying to fix the soundcard
[16:07] <nikolaj> but my home directory was intact
[16:07] <abhi_nav> mawst: i use grub 2. dont know whether to call it GRAPHICAL or not
[16:07] <Darkstar1> ikonia: Well I'm getting several problems chief among them being that Grub refuses to install. Although I think I may have remedied that by specifying the device on which Grub should be installed
[16:07] <nikolaj> so i reinstalled ubuntu into the boot partition which was unrecognisable for some reason
[16:07] <nikolaj> and it put the home into that
[16:07] <mawst> Right well afaik Karmic uses grub2 by default
[16:08] <erUSUL> Darkstar1: i'd had issues in the past due to grub; allways ended up installed in the wrong mbr (installed with the ide drives unplugged)
[16:08] <mawst> Have vga mode working
[16:08] <mawst> BUt...
[16:08] <abhi_nav> mawst: i am using 9.04 and just (successfully) upgraded to grub2 last week
[16:08] <mawst> Just black and white
[16:08] <nikolaj> i thought i could specify to use the existing home partition as normal and get everything.. all settings back to normal
[16:08] <abhi_nav> mawst: my grub2 is blue-black-white
[16:08] <Darkstar1> erUSUL:  Thanks. I may have to unplug the IDE drive then it seems
[16:08] <nikolaj> but the home partition is still seen as a seperate partition
[16:08] <r3drum> hi everybody , maybe anybody knows why my firefox crashes when im trying to watch youtube videos with HD option ? :(
[16:08] <nikolaj> "drive"
[16:09] <mawst> I would like maybe... 006699 for bg color, white text and black selection
[16:09] <erUSUL> Darkstar1: if the problem is with grub then maybe that simlify things
[16:09] <mawst> or an image
[16:09] <mawst> But these gfxboot themes look nice
[16:09] <abhi_nav> hmm
[16:09] <Darkstar1> r3drum: maybe to do with your GPU drivers
[16:09] <nikolaj> also i cannot find fstab
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  if you tell tye system to mount that filesystem as /home/ it would be  the home..    If you cant find fstab.. time to read up a little more on linux basics
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | nikolaj
[16:10] <r3drum> any solution ? :\
[16:10] <mawst> abelha: http://cmaverick.wordpress.com/2006/08/12/grub-estilo-suse-en-ubuntu/
[16:10] <mawst> abhi_nav: sorry
[16:10] <Darkstar1> erUSUL:  That was the initial issue but on the last attempt it refused to allocate the swap space from the partition specified
[16:10] <nikolaj> lol ok, i shall read up, but I am pushed for time as I'm abroad and have to work as well... so i was trying to look for a quick solution
[16:10] <abhi_nav> mawst: ?????
[16:11] <abhi_nav> mawst: sorry for what?
[16:11] <mawst> that link was for you
[16:11] <Vigo> Hard Drive is failing, is there a utility to identify and then block out the bad sectors or just get a new HDD?
[16:11] <abhi_nav> mawst: ok
[16:11] <philipp__> maaaaan
[16:11] <philipp__> this shice ubuntu
[16:11] <nikolaj> i mean, can it not be done through GParted?
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  takes me all of like 30 sec to add a fstab entry.
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  gparted does partitons.. it dosent set where to mount them to
[16:11] <philipp__> UMTSmon don't find my aonmodem
[16:12] <nikolaj> i understand, but i don't know anything about it... alright, let me try and figure out how to access fstab then
[16:12] <archman> hello
[16:12] <abhi_nav> mawst: and dont get it. everything over my head....i dont understand german. by the way the theme is nice
[16:12] <arch0njw> nikolaj:  sudo nano /etc/fstab
[16:12] <philipp__> das ist ja super
[16:12] <philipp__> niemand versteht mich
[16:13] <philipp__> kein einziger Deutscher hier
[16:13] <dosordie> @Vigo try "hirens boot"
[16:13] <Pici> !de | philipp__
[16:13] <Darkstar1> nikolaj: gksu gedit /etc/fstab (or something like that I thinks)
[16:13] <milosz3> does 9.10 come with gparted preinstalled?
[16:13] <archman> i have a problem, here's my partition list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/394096/
[16:13] <Vigo> dosordie: Thank you.
[16:13] <Darkstar1> milosz3: yes
[16:13] <milosz3> ok thanks
[16:13] <nikolaj> sudo gedit i think?
[16:13] <archman> so sda1 is for storage, sda2 for /, and i wanna remove sda4
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  whatever editor you like.
[16:13] <dosordie> Viog np
[16:13] <ulysess> hi
[16:13] <archman> can anyone help with partitioning?
[16:14] <ulysess> lubuntu rulez!
[16:14] <rfa_> archman say what you need
[16:14] <Darkstar1> archman:  sure what's the problem?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> ulysess:  i hate lubuntu
[16:14] <nikolaj> alright
[16:14] <nikolaj> then i have that open
[16:14] <nikolaj> but i do not know what to edit in that
[16:14] <abhi_nav> !gparted | archman
[16:14] <nikolaj> one sec
[16:14] <ulysess> why? It's pretty fast!
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  someone gave an example line earlier.. it will be similer to --> /dev/sda1/media/Storage1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[16:14] <abhi_nav> !lubuntu
[16:15] <archman> Darkstar1: the problem is that i, apparently, need to move sda1 and sda2 to increase sda1 from the sda4 leftovers (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/394096/)
[16:15] <steveire> How do I resolve this without removing librdf0-dev: http://dpaste.com/171217/
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj: --> /dev/sda1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0
[16:15] <archman> abhi_nav, lol, i know :D ;)
[16:15] <abhi_nav> archman lol then
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  or you can use the UUID= type options, or other ways instead of /dev/sdXX
[16:16] <ulysess> what's the distro with the faster boot precess?
[16:16] <intuition> hey
[16:16] <nikolaj> can i pastebin it to you?
[16:16] <Darkstar1> archman: give me some time to look at the paste I'm currently in livecd mode and I seem to have crashed several things :D
[16:16] <doolph> oigan
[16:16] <doolph> alguien por casualidad sabe de centos
[16:16] <archman> Darkstar1: :( ok
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  and what is your home partiion? what device?
[16:16] <intuition> i just installed ubuntu and it seems the repositories to have some problem, as there are some files failing to fetch. can someone tell me how can i add some other alternative repositories please ?
[16:17] <nikolaj> and the directory is set as /media/_home
[16:17] <ulysess> intuition, try with an alternative repository in synaptic
[16:17] <helo> Dr_Willis: ok, /etc/default/grub had an entry to ignore drive UUID, and changing that fixed the root=/dev/sda1... but there's still a "search --fs-uid ......" that is causing grub to fail
[16:17] <nikolaj> http://pastebin.com/T6i1RUpv
[16:17] <Vigo> Thank you kindly, have a nice time.
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  the mountpoint is NOT the same as the /dev/XXXX entry.. nikolaj  what does 'mount' say about the device?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> helo:  i recall some others/forums mentioning  that search stuff has issues.. but ive never looked into it.
[16:18] <Darkstar1> intuition:  I believe it's in the following menu path: System =>
[16:18] <Darkstar1> Administration => Software Sources
[16:19] <nikolaj> i found that out by looking at the system monitor and looking at the file systems tab, then under the device column i say "/dev/sda5" so i assumed that was the name of the device
[16:19] <archman> Darkstar1: I might not be able to do that :S
[16:19] <nikolaj> *i saw
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  sda5 is the device name  /media/whatever is a mountpoint
[16:19] <MakuraRyu> all my network devices have started to report missing. Where can I start looking to get them re-enabled?
[16:19] <nikolaj> ok
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj: --> /dev/sda5 /home ext3 defaults 0 0
[16:19] <intuition> ulysess: worked, thank you :)
[16:19] <intuition> Darkstar1 i'm good already thanks :p
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  will be CLOSE to the line you want.. You may want ext4
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  at least it should work.
[16:20] <Darkstar1> archman: I haven't forgotten you. As soon as Firefox decides to load I'll help
[16:20] <nikolaj> did you see the pastebin entry?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  rather straight forward. :)
[16:20] <nikolaj> hehe
[16:20] <nikolaj> thanks
[16:20] <gmachine_24> My monitor is always on - until recently the screensaver worked and the computer is set to turn off the monitor after 15 minutes of inactivity - but neither of these things happen any more.
[16:20] <meee> Hi. I have an old laptop and I got Hardy installed on it. after using "Suspend" mode for a while, it doesn't detect my usb disk (before suspending everything is fine). In fact, there is only /dev/sda* and no sdb at my /dev.
[16:20] <nikolaj> apologies for my misunderstanding, but i am not sure where to enter that in the gedit file
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  on its own line.
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  each lineis a seperate mountpoint/device.
[16:21] <kako_ste> http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=HzkN PLEASE HELP ME WIN LAPTOP! just click on this! please!
[16:21] <Darkstar1> archman:  Ok what do you want to do?
[16:21] <nikolaj> press return at the end of the last line and just paste that in
[16:21] <nikolaj> ?
[16:21] <gmachine_24> make kako_ste go away
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  yes...
[16:21] <acicula> kako_ste: dont post spam
[16:21] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, I figured out how to change the font. now, the font is ok, but there are spaces between the letters ! can you help me ?
[16:22] <nikolaj> so i know have "/dev/sda5 /home ext3 defaults 0 0" pasted as the last line
[16:22] <nikolaj> *now
[16:22] <archman> Darkstar1: ok, so, i want to remove sda4 and swap, and increase the size of sda1, which is from 1 to 1824 :S
[16:22] <archman> Darkstar1, and then, there's sda2 (system - can't be touched) after sda1
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  you dont have anytin in /home right NOW that you want to keep do you>
[16:22] <nikolaj> although i believe it's in ext4 format
[16:22] <nikolaj> yes i do...
[16:22] <nikolaj> hehe
[16:23] <meee> Hi. I have an old laptop and I got Hardy installed on it. after using "Suspend" mode for a while, it doesn't detect my usb disk (before suspending everything is fine). In fact, there is only /dev/sda* and no sdb at my /dev.
[16:23] <archman> Darkstar1: sda1 has to remain undamaged (wanna keep the files) ; any posibilities?
[16:23] <nikolaj> i was just hoping it would recognise that partition and use it as home
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  i would move /home to be /washome   then make a new /home dir then 'sudo mount /home'
[16:23] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor not actually. dont know much about fonts. in my case i use devanagari fonts(hindi) which works very good on gnome but have same spaces problem on ide
[16:23] <Darkstar1> Archman: I assume you're booted in livecd mode like I am??
[16:23] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor sorry KDE
[16:23] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor *
[16:23] <archman> Darkstar1: no, in gparted using sudo
[16:23] <archman> Darkstar1: just sda2 is mounted now
[16:23] <acicula> meee: try plugging/unplugging the disk or run lsusb?
[16:24] <archman> Darkstar1: i need a live cd?
[16:24] <nikolaj> right... that is going over my head sorry
[16:24] <acicula> meee: lsusb in a console, sometimes that reactivates usb devices
[16:24] <abhi_nav> !fonts | aboSamoor
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  time to learn some linux basics then i guess
[16:24] <gmachine_24> I'm running 8.04LTS on a desktop and the screen saver no longer functions and the screen won't power down even thought I have it set to turn off after 15 min of inactivity. So, the monitor is always "on". Any ideas?
[16:24] <nikolaj> argh, sorry :)
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  if you mount the filesustem to /home you wont be able to access the stuff IN /home  untill you unmount it.
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  the stuff in home now i mean.. :)
[16:25] <nikolaj> oh
[16:25] <Darkstar1> archman: The partitions you need to operate on need to be unmounted; though there are texts online that say you can do it on the fly my personal experience is that everything runs smoother booted in live CD mode]
[16:25] <nikolaj> in the new home that was created by the new install?
[16:25] <nikolaj> there is nothing in the new home
[16:25] <meee> acicula: cool. lsusb solves the problem although it didn't mention any usb device attached. thanks. can you explain what was wrong?
[16:25] <nikolaj> i just want the old home
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:    then mount the other one then..
[16:25] <archman> Darkstar1: so can you tell me the procedure to make my goal? Is it possible at all?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  sudo mount /home
[16:25] <Darkstar1> archman: so if you still have your Ubuntu CD boot with that and choose option 1
[16:25] <nikolaj> and the old home is a 70gb partition
[16:25] <acicula> meee: probably the usb device was deactivated/powered down or something other
[16:25] <acicula> meee: if you run lsusb a second time it'll probably show up
[16:25] <nikolaj> so do i even need that line in gedit?
[16:26] <Darkstar1> archman: yes I did something similar last week using gparted
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  No... thats a COMMAND LINE
[16:26] <meee> acicula: no, it was on. (it a mp3 player)
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  save fstab and exit the editor
[16:26] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, any idea why there are four options for fonts in ubuntu  ?
[16:26] <acicula> meee: for instance usb autosuspend will deactivate devices
[16:26] <Darkstar1> archman: but I had to doo it using live CD
[16:26] <nikolaj> save fstab with the new line added?
[16:26] <archman> Darkstar1: i'm using Jaunty, and i got some Karmic livecd, is it cool?
[16:26] <nikolaj> apologies again
[16:26] <nikolaj> just want to be clear
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  err.. yes.. logical eh> :)
[16:26] <Darkstar1> archman: Yes.. it's cool
[16:26] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: four? where? i have only one option in sys=>pref=>lang support
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> wouldent do much good to edit it and not save it.
[16:26] <nikolaj> although one thing i am not sure of, is that ext3 was used in that line and i think the format was actually ext4
[16:26] <meee> acicula: thanks again.
[16:27] <helo> how do i disable UNR mode to go back to a normal gnome desktop?
[16:27] <archman> Darkstar1: ok see you there
[16:27] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, I mean under that you have sans, sans serif, monospace options
[16:27] <nikolaj> it is ext4 format
[16:27] <Darkstar1> archman: ok.. I have to relog myself.. everything's crashing in this session
[16:27] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135876 and come back
[16:27] <nikolaj> according to file systems
[16:27] <archman> Darkstar1, ok
[16:27] <archman> Darkstar1, logging off
[16:27] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: and dont know much about that four types.
[16:28]  * helo thought there was a central setting that stopped maximus, etc
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  so you should of used ext4 instead of ext3 in the fstab line
[16:28] <nikolaj> right
[16:28] <nikolaj> that is saved
[16:28] <nikolaj> and the comman line was
[16:28] <JuJuBee> Does the image for Ubunti download get updated? or is it the same as it was 2 months ago?
[16:28] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: it is the same
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  shouldbe the same.. every so often they may have a .1 version that includes updates
[16:28] <nikolaj> done
[16:28] <nikolaj> :)
[16:29] <nikolaj> thank you very much
[16:29] <nikolaj> but
[16:29] <xukun> is there anyone here who can help me setting up sixxs account for IPV6?
[16:29] <JuJuBee> The last time I tried 9.10, the mouse kept jumping to the upper left corner rendering mouse input impossible.
[16:29] <nikolaj> it is still seen as a different media device on the desktop
[16:29] <nikolaj> hehe
[16:29] <rethus> how can i downgrade from sqeeze to karmic ?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> rethus:  debian is not ubuntu.....  so that may not be doable..
[16:30] <abhi_nav> rethus: what is sqeeze?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> rethus:  or may be very complex
[16:30] <rethus> ok. thanks
[16:30] <ikonia> not possible
[16:30]  * helo edits grub.cfg directly
[16:30] <nikolaj> out of interest, are all of the user settings NOT kept in the /home directory
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> helo:  aint you leet.
[16:31] <nikolaj> ?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  users settings are in their home dirs
[16:31] <nikolaj> because i had ubuntu studio installed
[16:31] <ajipubuntu> my computer platform use for 64bit, but i'm using ubuntu 32bit... can i upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?
[16:31] <acicula> xukun: ipv6 is enabled by default?
[16:31] <nikolaj> and obviously therefore a lot of other programs settings
[16:31] <llutz> ajipubuntu: no
[16:32] <JuJuBee> Has anybody else experienced a problem with the mouse moving to the upper left corner constantly with 9.10?
[16:32] <nikolaj> so i  was hoping to get that all back
[16:32] <acicula> ajipubuntu: no you have to use a 64bit install disk
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  'setting files' for the users are in the users home dir...
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  users normally can ONLY do things intheir own home
[16:32] <nikolaj> by setting the home directory back to as it is now
[16:32] <nikolaj> yup
[16:32] <nikolaj> i am the only user
[16:32] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that used to be a common problem with Thinkpads
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  i do such things all the time with /home/ its rather trivial to move it to a partiton/drive/whatver
[16:33] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I have an asus laptop g71
[16:33] <nikolaj> so how do all of the settings get reverted to how they were?
[16:33] <ajipubuntu> acicula:, llutz:, ok.. so, what a different of 32bit and 64 bit?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  if you are using a difffent place for /home you had all new/(none) settings
[16:34] <JuJuBee> ikonia: means I cannot upgrade to 9.10 and I wonder if that will be corrected in 10.04?  if not, then I will be very sad... :(
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  You may want to reboot to keep fromconfuseing things so /home gets mounted where it needs
[16:34] <nikolaj> alright
[16:34] <nikolaj> will reboot now
[16:35] <ikonia> JuJuBee: I'm not aware of that problem on anything other than a thinkpad, and I'm not aware of it in 9.10 at all
[16:35] <acicula> ajipubuntu: moaaah bits
[16:35] <acicula> ajipubuntu: its a technical story largely irrelevant for end users, it allows you to use more mem, these days using 64bit is recommended
[16:36] <riomare1> can any1 help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8954545
[16:36] <JuJuBee> ikonia: well, you are now.... I have it.  When I use the live cd, the pointer keeps jumping to the upper left corner as soon as I try to move it.
[16:36] <JuJuBee> Really stinks.
[16:37] <ajipubuntu> acicula: good information acicula.. thanks!
[16:38] <ajipubuntu> i'm using ubuntu 9.10 32bits.. and im waiting for 10.04 64bits...
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> ajipubuntu:  why not wait for service pack 1 :)
[16:39] <acicula> there is no service pack for 9.10
[16:40] <acicula> just lts get periodic refresshes
[16:40] <ajipubuntu> Dr_willis: it's stable already?
[16:41] <daniskami> riomare1: ¨ and ? are no keys, you need the names of the keys there in the first two places
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> ajipubuntu:  is what stable? 10.04 is working 'ok' for me.. but it still has issues  and like 200+mb of updates a day
[16:41] <jenny> hoal
[16:41] <daniskami> riomare1: sorry, misread
[16:41] <arch0njw> !lucid
[16:41] <frajolaum> Hi guys I have a question here
[16:41] <jenny> hola
[16:41] <acicula> frajolaum: just ask ;)
[16:41] <arch0njw> !es | jenny
[16:41] <gandhijee> hey, how come when  i do iwconfig <wireless iface> essid <essid name> the interface doesn't associate with the AP?
[16:41] <daniskami> riomare1: but you probably need names for the letters or the Unicode numbers
[16:41] <nikolaj> Dr_Willis it seems to have remember a lot of the setting but the programs i think need to be reinstalled
[16:41] <acicula> gandhijee: missing key?
[16:42] <xukun> acicula, sorry? but I have the feeling that somehow ipv6 is not enabled by default for my system. How can I check if that is so?
[16:42] <jenny> hi
[16:42] <gandhijee> acicula: AP is open
[16:42] <acicula> xukun: type ifconfig
[16:42] <frajolaum> Does anyone know how to call dpkg-buildpackage -k<ID> with the password in the command line?
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj:  if you mean installed PACKAGES.. your /home does not store those
[16:42] <Darkstar1> archman I'm here but I'm sorta busy breaking ubuntu :/
[16:42] <acicula> it'll show an ipv6 there
[16:42] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: and dont know much about that four types.
[16:42] <riomare1> daniskami: that might work
[16:42] <archman> Darkstar1, should i ask someone else? :/
[16:42] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: sorry above was wrong messege. so what happend?
[16:42] <Darkstar1> archman:  for some reason ubiquity hangs a lot at the moment
[16:42] <acicula> xukun: mind you if you if you set a static ip yourself or your router does not give out an ipv6 ip then it wont show
[16:43] <Darkstar1> archman: nah I'll help
[16:43] <acicula> !ipv6 | xukun look here also
[16:43] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, the font changed but the spaces are still there.
[16:43] <daniskami> riomare1: try U161
[16:43] <katesmith> i installed wubi , i dont know how to mount files though on it and what files to mount?  I have wine installed on that though, can someone please tell me how it is done?
[16:43] <riomare1> daniskami: k
[16:43] <archman> Darkstar1 unfortunately, all i got is this Gutsy live cd, btw, can we chat in PM?
[16:43] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, I am going. I would like to thank you for your help :)
[16:43] <acicula> frajolaum: man <packagename> ?
[16:43] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: had you looked that forum link? it ddnt help?
[16:43] <xukun> acicula, what shall I be looking after ifconfig?
[16:43] <daniskami> riomare1: and U160, U111, U110
[16:43] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: ok bye :-)
[16:43] <acicula> xukun: if its there its there if its not its not?
[16:44] <Darkstar1> archman: yes Let's chat in pm
[16:44] <aboSamoor> abhi_nav, I have already read that. it is not that helpful beside that it is outdated.
[16:44] <xukun> acicula, in that case it's not there
[16:44] <ajipubuntu> Dr_Willis:If i want to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04.. how can i backup my  file?
[16:44] <abhi_nav> aboSamoor: ok better luck next time :-)
[16:45] <acicula> xukun: then you have no ipv6 configured, either because its not explicitly set statically or enabled via the router?
[16:45] <harry-houdini1> hello i have issued the following command rsync -avrR --delete --links --relative --rsh="ssh -l user" 192.168.1.113:/home/user/320HD/iso/* /iso and instead of just copying the files to /iso/file-names.iso its copying them to  /iso/home/user/320HD/iso/file.name.iso can anyone tell me how to get it to copy it to /iso/file-name.iso...i give up at this point
[16:45] <acicula> xukun: have a look at the doc ubuntu linked
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> ajipubuntu:  what 'file' ? I dont reccomend upgradeing at this time.
[16:45] <riomare1> daniskami: thx! it works
[16:45] <daniskami> riomare1: you're welcome
[16:45] <biffe> Hello everyone, anyone got a minute or two for a first time Ubuntu user?
[16:46] <acicula> hi biffe: just ask your question , if someone knows they will help you ;)
[16:46] <frajolaum> acicula: I am trying to automate a debian creation but I must input the GPG key password every time... is there any way to avoid this? like, add the password in the command line, or any other solution?
[16:46] <katesmith> well i downloaded wubi and i cant use my files that i had in windows vista on it, and i dont know how to mount files or what to mount or how to get my files to be able to be usuable in wubi, i dont know hot to do that
[16:46] <biffe> I installed a player called Mplayer, but im supposed to install a codec pack, wich I downloaded as well, but according to the help file im supposed to copy the files to a foler that I can't find
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> katesmith:  i think a wubi install mounts your windows drive to soem where in /media/ by default..  but i dont use wubi. Ive just seen that asked befor
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> katesmith:  see what 'mount' shows mounted where
[16:47] <Azelphur> biffe: that sounds long, applications > software center, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:47] <acicula> frajolaum: i dont know that, if the command line tool you use doesnt support adding te password you could try other versions or piping the password in or use a key not protected by the password?
[16:48] <Azelphur> biffe: that gives you all the codecs.
[16:48] <frajolaum> acicula: Well, remove the password for the key might work.... let me try..... tks
[16:48] <colegioo> Olaaa
[16:48] <acicula> yeah you shouldnt have to install codecs by hand
[16:49] <colegioo> ay alquien??
[16:49] <colegioo> español??
[16:49] <overmind> !es | colegioo
[16:49] <Pici> !es | colegioo
[16:49] <acicula> frajolaum: it'll unscramble your key but since you appear to be storing the apssword in the clear anyway
[16:49] <colegioo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:49] <pauljw> biffe, in nautilus, view put a check in the view hidden files box
[16:49] <colegioo> ay alk
[16:49] <biffe> ahh ok
[16:49] <colegioo> aaron
[16:49] <biffe> btw thanks for the hint aze
[16:49] <overmind> colegioo: Si necesitas ayuda entra en #ubuntu-es porfavor
[16:50] <colegioo> soy ana
[16:50] <biffe> So there is never installation files like *.exe files in linux?
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> biffe:  Huh?
[16:50] <colegioo> espanish
[16:50] <colegioo> OLaa
[16:50] <abhi_nav> biffe .exe is windows file format it wont work on any other os
[16:50] <colegioo> hola!
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> biffe:  with ubuntu - you really want to use 'repositories' to get all your software not stuff you just 'download' and install.. (normally)
[16:51] <agusia> polski?
[16:51] <m4v> colegioo: andá al canal #ubuntu-es, este canal es para inglés solamente
[16:51] <biffe> I know but it seem as most programs isnt installed, atleast not the same way as windows programs are
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> biffe:  windows is not linux. :)
[16:51] <colegioo> valeeeeee
[16:51] <biffe> I know that :)
[16:51] <colegioo> Olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:51] <colegioo> hello
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> biffe:  once you learn about how Repos and the package manager work.. You hate how windows does things
[16:51] <biffe> but the way things work is very different
[16:52] <Dr_Willis>    windows is not linux.   ---> that implies --> the way things work is very different
[16:52] <acicula> !es | colegioo
[16:52] <colegioo> ok
[16:52] <colegioo> whats
[16:53] <colegioo> whats time in is
[16:53] <colegioo> ??
[16:53] <Darkstar1> archman: you still there
[16:53] <biffe> Most awesome my netradio works now with the new codec pack, thanks alot for your help guys.
[16:53] <archman> Darkstar1, the browser crapped out...
[16:53] <colegioo> hello
[16:53] <Darkstar1> yeah... ubiquity seems to be crashing out in Livecd mode
[16:54] <|Z_E_R_O|> hola
[16:54] <|Z_E_R_O|> i need support for likewise, can u help me?
[16:54] <colegioo> olaaa
[16:54] <abhi_nav> likewise means?
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> never heard of Likewise. :)
[16:54] <colegioo> kntal estass¿¡
[16:54] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis: :-)
[16:55] <colegioo> no e
[16:55] <abhi_nav> !details | |Z_E_R_O|
[16:56] <|Z_E_R_O|> ok
[16:56] <colegioo> no se puede hablar español?
[16:56] <colegioo> ñ
[16:56] <|Z_E_R_O|> when i try to connect to the windows server 2008 domain likewise return me this error "Failed to lookup the domain controller for given domain
[16:56] <|Z_E_R_O|> "
[16:57] <colegioo> callaos
[16:57] <colegioo> feoosss
[16:57] <Darkstar1> archman: yeah I'm still here
[16:57] <Riiiis> how do i mount a nfs drive in ubuntu ? i have added the line: "<IP>:/share /mnt/point nfs rw,user 0 0" to /etc/fstab
[16:57] <archma1> Darkstar1: pm
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Riiiis:  i use -->  cow:/home  /nfs/cow/home nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Riiiis:  im not sure that 'user' is a valid option
[16:58] <octet> hello, i share my files with some windows machines, and now it says you can not share more then 100directory's can i do something ?
[16:59] <melodie_> hi !  o/
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> octet:  you have over 100 shares?
[16:59] <octet> yes
[16:59] <Riiiis> Dr_Willis, ok,  i get a "Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock......."
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> octet:  thats scary.
[16:59] <Riiiis> Dr_Willis, even with your options
[16:59] <veronica2> i need help! i m trying to install a usb broadband device hwawei 1786 in my netbook using ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix. i cannot even mount the device
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> Riiiis:   thats the generic 'you did somthign wrong' error.
[16:59] <melodie_> octet, what about a server and terminal clients instead of sharing ?
[16:59] <octet> well its not, if u have 5singers discography , thats it :D
[17:00] <octet> terminal clients win-lin ?
[17:00] <sigul> czesc jest jaki polak?:P
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> octet:  You can set up the users home to be shared.. if you want to have access to   the users home dirs.
[17:00] <sigul> bo mam pytanko
[17:00] <melodie_> octet, lin-gnu
[17:00] <melodie_> ;)
[17:00] <octet> lol
[17:00] <octet> need to change that limit somehow
[17:00] <octet> if its possible
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> octet:  why are you using 100+ shares anyway? this is a single USER that has made 100+ shares?
[17:01] <heroid> hey i am getting busybox when i try to boot help how do i get X back?
[17:01] <octet> ye, single user
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> octet:  dare we ask what you are doing that you need so many?
[17:01] <octet> well i have, cause if i share folder A, and in folders A i got another 3 directorys, my network clients cant access those, so i got 4 shares for 1 directory
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> octet:  you could set up shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf and not do the 'user defined share' stuff
[17:02] <heroid> guys ... anyone here? my system crashed and i am using a live cd now for now i keep getting busybox even in recovery moode
[17:02] <heroid> mode
[17:02] <octet> hmm, ill try that now
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> octet:  i think the erorr message is confuseing, or goofy.   You sould be able to access all the dirs below the initial share.. unless the permissions are goofy
[17:03] <Oasa> how to run a .bin file ?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> octet:  ive shared a single 1+TB hard drive with a single 'share' and never had issues.
[17:03] <octet> i even gived the permission to change or remove files
[17:03] <Andy-at-home> guys, im on a vps with a massive 128mb ram (doesnt google use that amount), is there any way to tweak it for better performance? i was thinking a larger swap file? saying that im assuming the swap file is like windows page file
[17:03] <octet> but when they access it from windows, get a error : "you dont have access to that folder, contact the admin"
[17:03] <veronica2> i need help! i m trying to install a usb broadband device hwawei 1786 in my netbook using ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix. i cannot even mount the device
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> octet:  set up the share in /etc/samba/smb.conf perhaps. not as a user share.  -  That may be the differance.
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> octet:  what filesystem is the shares on?
[17:03] <bXi> uhm help?
[17:03] <Oasa> when i do ./filename.bin it says permission denied. I tried sudo ./filename.bin then it says command not found.. how to run that file ?
[17:04] <octet> xfs
[17:04] <Riiiis> Dr_Willis, hmmm any ideas as to what the problem could be, i have cloned another entry in /etc/exports on the server
[17:04] <bXi> i'm trying to install ubuntu server but it can't determine the codename
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Oasa:  it needs tobe executable.. chmode +x whatever.bin
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Oasa:  then try those
[17:04] <Oasa> its an exectuable Dr_WIllis
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Oasa:  it could be currupted then..
[17:05] <Dr_Willis>  chmod +x  whatever.bin
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> ./whatever.bin
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> is the normal way to do it
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> Oasa:  what IS this bin file exactly anyway?
[17:05] <sidux> Oasa: it an executeable? try: file filename.bin
[17:05] <gandhijee> why does ubuntu give me this message when i try to associate with an AP ?wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)
[17:06] <Oasa> Dr willis its unetbootin-linux
[17:06] <linusoleander> How do I create a set group ownership i linux?
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> Oasa:  I seemt o recall there being debs for that.
[17:06] <linusoleander> I have group called admin and I want them to have write access to a folder
[17:06] <Beelsebob> where could I find a 9.04 iso?
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> !info unetbootin
[17:07] <acicula> gandhijee: associating probably timed out
[17:07] <Oasa> What was the command to get and install ?
[17:07] <octet> whats the command to restart samba ?
[17:07] <Oasa> sudo get-install ?
[17:07] <abhi_nav> who is this gandhijee? what do you do?
[17:07] <acicula> octet: service samba restart
[17:07] <gandhijee> acicula: anyway i can fix it?  it assoicates my other devices don't have a problem with it
[17:07] <veronica2> how do i mount a usb modem that does not even show up when typing fdisk -l?
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> !apt | Oasa
[17:07] <acicula> gandhijee: move closer to the access point?
[17:07] <matt2s> Is there a log that registers if my laptop shut down due to it being out of battery power?
[17:07] <acicula> gandhijee: has it worked before?
[17:08] <gandhijee> acicula: i am already right next to it
[17:08] <Oasa> I know what apt is Dr_WIllis please tell me the commandline command to instal lit
[17:08] <Oasa> I just forgot it
[17:08] <gandhijee> acicula: yes, this dongle has worked before
[17:09] <acicula> gandhijee: did you update, upgrade, make chances to the system, is the ap hidden/visible, did you check and reset the access key?
[17:10] <bXi> anyone got a spare moment to help me with my ubuntu server issue?
[17:10] <gandhijee> acicula: there is no key, its open, i just grabbed a coworkers lappy and associated to the AP next to me
[17:10] <civpro> trying to get proftpd working, i made a group called ftpgroup and added proftpd to it as well as the other people i want to allow access to ftp and change proftp group from nogroup to ftpgroup in config file, keep getting connection closed, any ideas where i might be going wrong at?
[17:10] <octet> well i disabled the 100 limit and now
[17:10] <octet> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: usershares are currently disabled
[17:10] <shahin> anyone have an old ATI graphics card on ubuntu? my video on youtube etc lags as hell
[17:10] <gandhijee> acicula: do you know what the disassociating by local choice (reason=3) is for?
[17:11] <gandhijee> it just happened with another AP
[17:11] <Oasa> !su
[17:11] <elijah> What is a ping program that can log timestamps?
[17:12] <acicula> gandhijee:cant really find what the error means exactly, i've seen it before when associating fails
[17:12] <gandhijee> hrpmf
[17:13] <veronica2> how can i mount this device?
[17:13] <archman> i got some weird thing; browsing on livecd is 10 times faster than on my native installation of jaunty... are there any workarounds? i'm using firefox and opera
[17:13] <veronica2> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[17:13] <graelin> Does anyone know how I would go about finding a process that uses a specific port. I noticed high network usage and ran a netstat. I don't recognize and can't effectively lookup a foreign IP connected to a local port (46943)
[17:14] <acicula> graelin: netstat, with sudo
[17:14] <acicula> i think you can peek at sockets via lsof too, uses the same handle system or?
[17:15] <genii> veronica2: Thats not a device which can be mounted like a disk. It's a modem.
[17:15] <rabbit1> how to change the background color/ image which comes during the startup? (hardy)
[17:15] <ethioaman> Hello!
[17:16] <ethioaman> Can anybody help me with https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/102696
[17:16] <gandhijee> acicula: i think i figured out the problem, it seems to be network-manager
[17:16] <acicula> veronica2: isnt that a umts/gsm modem?
[17:16] <ddrj> is there some speedfan alternative or something so that you can get the temperatures of ur system (cpu temps, vidcard temps etc)
[17:16] <gandhijee> acicula: is there away to have network-manager not manager my wifi interface
[17:16] <acicula> gandhijee: well network-manager handles network connectivity
[17:16] <Surlent777> Um, wow, I just may have the weirdest error EVER. I closed Chromium, and now I have HALF A DESKTOP. The right side is my desktop, but scooted over. The left side is just wallpaper, and then it gets a Hall of Mirrors effect if anything goes over there. Logging out/in didn't fix it, nor did switching to metacity and back.
[17:16] <acicula> you can stop it and use wicd for wireless
[17:17] <acicula> !networkmanager
[17:17] <gandhijee> acicula: it seems to manage my wired as well
[17:17] <gandhijee> acicula: i want to remove all of it and just do it by hand
[17:17] <BOOOO> Hey, any idea how to disable the password prompt on restart or shutdown? it started to bug me one week ago, because it wasn't like that when i installed ubuntu, and I haven't done any changes to the user administrative options.
[17:17] <veronica2> yes it is acicula, but i want it to connect, the drivers are inside the device and i cant even access them
[17:18] <elijah> What is a ping program that can log timestamps?
[17:18] <acicula> gandhijee: manages all of your network connectivity
[17:18] <acicula> veronica2: im a bit rusty on umts modems
[17:18] <gandhijee> ugh
[17:18] <acicula> !umts | veronica
[17:18] <ddrj> is there some speedfan alternative or something so that you can get the temperatures of ur system (cpu temps, vidcard temps etc)
[17:18] <acicula> hmm no joy
[17:18] <archman> anyone experiencing this slow internet browsing with jaunty? or any ubuntu?
[17:18] <acicula> ddrj: lm-sensors, hddtemp etc
[17:19] <ddrj> thanks
[17:19] <Darkstar1> archman: sorry dude Linux crashed on me in a big way
[17:19] <acicula> gandhijee: you can remove the packages but id recommend starting wth just stopping the network manager service and trying wicd
[17:19] <nevans> does anyone in here know how I can diagnose an ext3 directory's metadata size (NOT "du -sh")?  `ls -lah /var/log 2>/dev/null | head -2 | tail -1 | awk '{print $5 }'` is 156M on one of my servers, with only 101 dir entries.
[17:19] <gandhijee> acicula: wicd isn't an option
[17:19] <AlveKatt> Hello. Howdo I makemy windows XP machine share it's internet connection with my ubuntu machine through an ethernet cable?
[17:19] <archman> Darkstar1, hehe :D
[17:20] <graelin> hmm... ubuntuone have anything to do with amazon computing cloud by default? I thought it was capable of it, but used its own infrastructure by default
[17:20] <gandhijee> this machine is running from command line only
[17:20] <gandhijee> no desktop
[17:20] <Darkstar1> archman: Just found out the base unit I put this drive in only has 512mb RAM
[17:20] <graelin> I figured it might be U1.. it was tagged as https and I don't have a webserver running yet
[17:20] <ashmew2> Hi everyone , I was wondering how to start developing open source applications or how to get more "involved" in the open source scene for development ?
[17:21] <veronica2> after !umts | veronica  i get : bash: !umts: event not found acicula
[17:21] <Surlent777> argh, what the expletive is wrong with this desktop?
[17:21] <Beelsebob> ashmew2: your best bet is to find an application that you like/use a lot/think could do with some love
[17:21] <Beelsebob> look at their bug list
[17:21] <elijah> AlveKatt: You have to enable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in XP
[17:21] <Beelsebob> and start contributing small patches
[17:22] <Beelsebob> over time you'll understand their method of doing things and will start contributing bigger things, like new features
[17:22] <AlveKatt> elijah: I have done that, in a very followinging tutorials I don't really understand haphasard way...
[17:22] <ashmew2> Beelsebob: Like i know there's a glitch in XYZ application that everywhere it writes Abuot instead of about ?
[17:22] <elijah> AlveKatt: Yeah, it is kind of a pain everytime I have done it
[17:22] <ashmew2> how do i go about fixing that ?
[17:22] <Surlent777> ashmew2: get the source, then make a diff patch
[17:22] <elijah> AlveKatt: I can't really help you much more than that
[17:22] <Beelsebob> ashmew2: you grab XYZ application's source
[17:22] <Beelsebob> you fix it in your copy of the source
[17:22] <gandhijee> is there away to pass nm-applet options for configuation?
[17:22] <Beelsebob> you create a diff
[17:22] <Beelsebob> and you submit a bug report along with the patch
[17:22] <Beelsebob> (assuming a bug report doesn't already exist)
[17:23] <ashmew2> and how do i understand the source ? :P
[17:23]  * elijah can't wait to get a 4G mifi so he doesn't have to worry about ICS ever again
[17:23] <Surlent777> become a programmer
[17:23] <ashmew2> obviously , but i mean in what sense ? like should i know around the language that the source is written in ?
[17:23] <Surlent777> ideally
[17:23] <ashmew2> like for example Firefox
[17:23] <Surlent777> a lot of special programming text editors try and figure out what language it is when you open it
[17:23] <ashmew2> what language is it written in ?
[17:24] <BOOOO> Any idea how to disable the password prompt on restart or shutdown? it started to bug me one week ago, because it wasn't like that when i installed ubuntu, and I haven't done any changes to the user administrative options.
[17:24] <Claudia> olaq¡
[17:24] <graelin> acicula, thanks for quelling my paranoia... looks like U1 isn't behaving as I expected.. time to RTFM
[17:24] <ashmew2> ok so i grab the application's source , re write a part/module of what i think is the error causer and then i just compile it with sudo make and sudo make install etc ?
[17:24] <pc__> good afternoon all
[17:25] <noii> what file controls the program that is launched when I plug in a scanner?
[17:25] <Claudia> ola???
[17:25] <Surlent777> Claudia: #ubuntu es en Ingles
[17:25] <pc__> i have a problem with my graphics drivers & was wondering if there were any kind people available to give me any advice?
[17:26] <ashmew2> Surlent777 ?
[17:26] <deedee> hi
[17:26] <nigelnigel> hello
[17:26] <nigelnigel> im new
[17:26] <francisco> ola
[17:26] <nigelnigel> can someone help me
[17:26] <Surlent777> ashmew2: I don't exactly know off hand, but I bet Wikipedia could probably tell you, or the Firefox site, somewhere
[17:26] <operador> holaaa
[17:26] <francisco> hola
[17:26] <operador> halguien sabe como se maneja esto????
[17:26] <ashmew2> Surlent777 no i meant this : ok so i grab the application's source , re write a part/module of what i think is the error causer and then i just compile it with sudo make and sudo make install etc ?
[17:27] <nigelnigel> could i talk to somone alone about
[17:27] <pc__> could anyone tell me why my display won't go full screen on my monitor?
[17:27] <francisco> hay alguien k able en español
[17:27] <nigelnigel> problems with ubuntu please
[17:27] <operador> yo
[17:27] <deedee> do you know why sometimes when i download a file using bittorrent it gives me another file?
[17:27] <Surlent777> ashmew2: to test it, I suppose that might work. Make sure you have all of its dependencies, like GTK headers, etc too
[17:27] <harisund> If I put a bunch of commands in a script, and call that script with sudo, is it equivaletn to having sudo in front of each of the commands in the script?
[17:28] <graelin> ashmew2, Yes.. then when it works like it should, run a diff on the sourcecode and submit the differences in your code to theirs as a patch with documentation and the bug report it fixes
[17:28] <pc__> i'm unable to get the full resolution on my graphics
[17:28] <BOOOO> deedee, wtf are you talking about
[17:28] <ashmew2> Surlent777 : Ok...Can you tell me where can i start small with all of this ?
[17:28] <ashmew2> graelin: thanks , but where does all of it start ? i mean i gotta start somewhere , sometime
[17:28] <noii> nigelnigel: hi, the best approach in a busy channel is just to ask your question and hope someone knows the answer
[17:28] <llutz> harisund: no
[17:28] <pc__> could anyone tell me why my display won't go full screen on my monitor?
[17:28] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Just ask the question.  If anyone has an answer, they'll answer. It might take a few minutes though.
[17:28] <harisund> llutz: damn it I was hoping it would be equivalent :( oh well thanks anyway :P
[17:29] <Surlent777> operador: #ubuntu es Ingles. Vas #ubuntu-es
[17:29] <deedee> I'm having a problem with bittorrent
[17:29] <nigelnigel> do i just ask my ques in the main menu
[17:29] <harisund> nigelnigel: Go ahead and do that. If anyone knows, they will reply
[17:29] <BOOOO> deedee, you are fucking retarded, bitch!
[17:29] <ashmew2> !language|B0000
[17:29] <graelin> ashmew2, how do you mean.. it starts with you.. d/l the source and tinker with it.. or don't... but if you do, people (meaning everyday code stupid people like me) will love you more and exhault your name through the ages
[17:30] <pc__> the max resolution i can get is 1280x720
[17:30] <Surlent777> ashmew2: that or you'll be an obscure footnote in a CHANGES file =p
[17:30] <deedee> i'm in need , i don't have the wright to ask for help?
[17:30] <ashmew2> graelin: Thats more than an incentive for me , Im guna log on to sourceforge :P
[17:30] <acicula> pc__: what is the max resolution supposed to be?
[17:30] <ashmew2> Surlent777: I hope the font size is 12 :"P
[17:30] <nigelnigel> i had a usb that i put a .doc file on while using linux through openoffice, then on the same comp through vista the file is visible and works fine, then i go to my university and it is showing my usb as blank
[17:30] <BOOOO> deedee, not if you're stupid or if it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:31] <seanbrystone> deedee, just put him on ignore.
[17:31] <zxc> hi, can anyone help?
[17:31] <seanbrystone> !conduct | BOOOO
[17:31] <Surlent777> zcx, just ask your question. We have no idea if we can help otherwise
[17:31] <pc__> my monitor is connected to my pc via dvi & is capable of full 1920x1080 full hd graphics but i can't get the resolution to get that high in the display settings in ubuntu
[17:31] <zxc> is there any program that i can read image files with
[17:31] <graelin> pc__, missed your question.. problems with video? what driver
[17:31] <acicula> BOOOO: can you behave or leave?
[17:31] <Surlent777> zxc, what do you mean, "read"?
[17:32] <archman> zxc, mount or read?
[17:32] <ethioaman> Can anybody help me with https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/102696
[17:32] <zxc> read yes
[17:32] <zxc> the files in it
[17:32] <noii> nigelnigel: is your university computer windows too?
[17:32] <archman> zxc, you can read it with the archiver i think
[17:32] <pc__> graelin thankyou
[17:32] <acicula> pc__: if you open a console and type in xrandr does it show the higher resolutions?
[17:32] <BOOOO> acicula, Fuck You
[17:32] <zxc> mounting is good too
[17:32] <nigelnigel> yes
[17:32] <Surlent777> zxc, okay, so mount then
[17:32] <nigelnigel> though
[17:32] <acicula> by BOOOO
[17:32] <BOOOO> _!_
[17:32] <nigelnigel> i dont know which version
[17:32] <archman> zxc, AcetoneISO
[17:32] <BOOOO> fuck off and die
[17:32] <acicula> !ops | BOOOO
[17:32] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, was the file still there when you got back home?
[17:32] <nigelnigel> i think it is xp business
[17:32] <BOOOO> cunt\
[17:32] <roby_> bonjour
[17:32] <pc__> i have on board graphics on an asrock motherboard
[17:32] <seanbrystone> bye BOOOO
[17:32] <nigelnigel> yes
[17:32] <zxc> thank youy archman!
[17:32] <archman> ROFL!!
[17:32] <nigelnigel> the file is still there on both
[17:32] <archman> zxc, ;) np
[17:32] <Surlent777> roby_: #ubuntu-fr
[17:32] <nigelnigel> linux and vista at home
[17:32] <chili555> thanks!!
[17:33] <BOOOO> fuck you too seanbrystone
[17:33] <BOOOO> and your kids
[17:33] <roby_> thank you
[17:33] <archman> lol
[17:33] <archman> facepalm
[17:33] <archman> :D
[17:33] <pc__> the model number is k10n78 & it has nvidia graphics on board the motherboard
[17:33] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, In vista, what did you open the file with?  Was it openoffice at the university too?
[17:34] <pc__> i'm unable to get the pc output to fill my screen & there are black edges around the outside of my display
[17:34] <deedee> ok,what sould i do to make bittorrent download the right file?
[17:34] <Surlent777> so guys, I have a half-desktop with the other half being a HOM. Any ideas on what one might do?
[17:34] <seanbrystone> ty mneptok , looks like BOOOO woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning :)
[17:34] <nigelnigel> no it was an older version of word at my school but i used word on my vista comp and it worked fine, plus i had emailed the same file and was able to access it on my school comp so it is not a problem with the file
[17:34] <Surlent777> deedee, make sure that the link your following is actually what you want. You may be downloading the wrong thing by following the wrong link
[17:35] <Surlent777> you're*
[17:35] <chili555> deedee, is it downloading the right file plus another smaller file at the same time?
[17:35] <graelin> pc__, yeah what acicula said. Sometimes X and or the driver don't detect every capability your card can do. Simple fix I always used to do was BACKUP /etc/X11/xorg.conf then edit in the resolution I wanted (1920x1080+0+0) and restart X.. if it crashed or didn't start, I'd restore backup and cry for awhile
[17:35] <nigelnigel> the problem is to do with seeing the files on the usb drive on the school comp specifically
[17:35] <nigelnigel> not a problem with the files
[17:35] <jiffe1> do I have to do something special to get the XBitHack to work in apache on 9.10?  it doesn't seem to recognize it
[17:35] <martin__> hi all how can i install GNU backgammon
[17:35] <Surlent777> martin__: Synaptic
[17:35] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, I wonder if the university is preventing you from viewing the USB for security reason?
[17:35] <pc__> the max resolution i can get through ubuntu is 1280x720 whereas i used to be running full hd 1920x1080 via a dvi connection through windows
[17:36] <martin__> ok
[17:36] <deedee> no the link is fine
[17:36] <graelin> nvidia driver?
[17:36] <acicula> pc__: whats the output of xrandr in a console
[17:36] <Surlent777> deedee, what makes you so sure?
[17:36] <nigelnigel> no because i have used the same usb with vista
[17:36] <nigelnigel> to transfer files to uni
[17:36] <nigelnigel> then when i use that at uni
[17:36] <rabbit1> guys, how to change the background image/ color in the startup (hardy)
[17:36] <nigelnigel> it worked fine
[17:36] <deedee> because when i wait it become the one i'm looking for
[17:37] <Surlent777> deedee, I can't make sense of that
[17:37] <pjanecze> do someone have experience with firefly (mt-daapd) ?
[17:37] <ethioaman> May I ask who had experience solving qt related problems in Karmic
[17:37] <ethioaman> ?
[17:37] <acicula> ethioaman: just present your problem, if anyone knows the answer they will tell you
[17:37] <Surlent777> rabbit1: I believe that's done in Appearance. Change the basic brown background colour to whatever.
[17:37] <linux> hello
[17:38] <linux> anyone tell me how to set dns  server  besides vi /etc/resolv.conf
[17:39] <rabbit1> Surlent777: thts desktop background, i need to change the startup background
[17:39] <pc__> acicula, i only installed ubuntu last night on my pc & am a total newbie to linux, i don't know how to find out the output of xrandr in a console, sorry for sounding thick
[17:39] <acicula> linux: statically via /etc/network/interfaces or via network-manager
[17:39] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Sorry, but I don't know what to tell you on that. Some of the other 1400 peeps in here might know.
[17:39] <abhi_nav> rabbit1 there is opiton in sys=>pref=>login screen change from there in admin account
[17:39] <Surlent777> rabbit1: okay, please define "startup" for me
[17:39] <ethioaman> @linux   User network-manager
[17:39] <nigelnigel> thanks anyway
[17:39] <nigelnigel> should i repost
[17:39] <nigelnigel> i dont know
[17:39] <nigelnigel> how this works
[17:39] <nigelnigel> like how you see my messages
[17:39] <acicula> pc Applications->Accessories->Terminal, then type xrandr and enter
[17:39] <rabbit1> Surlent777: abhinav is right
[17:39] <preposteruss> does apt-get use urlgrabber?
[17:40] <rabbit1> Surlent777: Abhinav: thx guys
[17:40] <deedee> i'm sorry for my english but what i mean is that for exemple my sister downloaded once a movie and i have darker than black in my file on the computer and my sister get darker than black while downloading that movie,how?
[17:40] <Surlent777> rabbit1: ah, alright then. Have fun.
[17:40] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[17:40] <graelin> pc__, Applications--->Accessories--->terminal at command prompt type 'xrandr' (w/o the quotes) and hit enter
[17:40] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Yes, you can repost the message again. I'm a user just like yourself. I wouldn't spam the channel with it, but post it again, let a few minutes go by, and repost it
[17:40] <martin__> Thanks Surlent777 it works
[17:40] <ethioaman> anybody who can help me with qt?
[17:41] <nigelnigel> k so you see the exact same screen as me
[17:41] <linux> I  mean that  I create a mini linux . and I dont know how to set DNS .aciacicula
[17:41] <Surlent777> martin__: good. Synaptic has packages for almost everything.
[17:41] <ethioaman> I really have a problem accessing virtualbox due to qt problem
[17:41] <nigelnigel> thanks for the help
[17:41] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, I do =)
[17:41] <nigelnigel> :)
[17:41] <martin__> also to hack wlan-codes???surlent777
[17:41] <root_> +
[17:41] <root_> hello
[17:42] <Surlent777> martin__: I wouldn't ask about that here, really
[17:42] <root_> how install debian sid
[17:42] <seanbrystone> root_, are you logged into xchat with root?
[17:42] <linux>  acicula:I didnt have any  .conf or network-manager
[17:42] <acicula> root_: ask in #debian
[17:42] <root_> 0.o
[17:42] <seanbrystone> tisk tisk
[17:42] <pc__> thankyou graelin, i'm just going to try that now
[17:42] <martin__> ok surlent777
[17:42] <Surlent777> root_: Get the first CD image in the set, burn it to CD, and reboot
[17:42] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, once someone is helping you, if you start typing their name, and hit tab, it will complete their name for you if you have enough of their name typed out.
[17:42] <root_> hello
[17:42] <root_> hello
[17:43] <root_> hello
[17:43] <Surlent777> root_: And make sure that computer is connected to a cable modem
[17:43] <nigelnigel> woops
[17:43] <pc__> graelin, here's what it says: pc@pc-desktop:~$ xrandr
[17:43] <pc__> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1280 x 720, maximum 1280 x 720
[17:43] <pc__> default connected 1280x720+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[17:43] <pc__>    1280x720        0.0*
[17:43] <pc__>    800x600        61.0
[17:43] <FloodBot2> pc__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <pc__>    640x480        60.0
[17:44] <acicula> pc__: using a laptop that has that max resolution also?
[17:44] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, When you include someone's name in a sentence like that, it usually highlights the sentence, like it does for you when I put your name in the sentence.
[17:45] <root_>  ok
[17:45] <nigelnigel> ah i see
[17:45] <linux> what the command to set DNS  besides vi /etc/resolv.conf
[17:45] <nigelnigel> thanks
[17:45] <nigelnigel> let me try it out
[17:45] <blockcold> ok thats gr8
[17:45] <nigelnigel> Sinist is my message highligted now
[17:45] <nigelnigel> for you
[17:45] <blockcold> i want to install debian sid via unetbootin
[17:45] <rabbit1> Abhinav: which distro u use?
[17:45] <ethioaman> @acicula    thank you in advance. I had posted my problem on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/102696
[17:46] <ethioaman> can you please have a look at it
[17:46] <blockcold> but there is no installation icon in my desktop
[17:46] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, no, the name wasn't complete. Hit tab after you get a few characters typed in
[17:46] <nigelnigel> i did but then it just auto posts your name
[17:46] <nigelnigel> and i cant finish a message
[17:46] <blockcold> lol can mandriva is better than debian ?
[17:46] <daniskami> there is more than one nickname starting with "sinist"
[17:47] <blockcold> hello
[17:47] <noii> i'm trying to stop xsane from launching by default when I plug in my scanner
[17:47] <nigelnigel> when i do what you say it just posts Sinister sinistrad
[17:47] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Yes, it stopped autocompletion where my name and the other differed
[17:47] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, That worked =)
[17:48] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[17:48] <chroot> hello any cnannel for mandriva
[17:48] <chroot> *channel
[17:48] <operador_> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:48] <operador_> como se usa estoÇ?
[17:48] <nigelnigel> Sinist so that was completed in bold how about this
[17:48] <pc__> graelin & acicula i just ran xrandr & here's what it told me: screen 0: minimum 640x480, current 1280x720, maximum 1280x720 defalt connected 1280x720+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[17:48] <sinistrad> !es | operador_
[17:49] <acicula> pc__: is this a laptop machine or a desktop with one screen attached
[17:49] <Surlent777> http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4156/gnomehom.png <--This is the HOM thing I'm talking about, if that helps at all
[17:49] <chroot> ok :)
[17:49] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, nope.
[17:49] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, for my name, you're just as well off typing the whole thing
[17:49] <operador_> join·ubuntu-es
[17:50] <nigelnigel> sinistrad sigh whatever sorry about stalling you
[17:50] <nigelnigel> is that bold
[17:50] <chroot> hello guys and girls if they exist here :D
[17:50] <pc__> acicula, my pc is a tower/desktop pc, i'm running win 7 on my laptop
[17:50] <chroot> i have know about mandriva
[17:50] <operador_> ·ubuntu-es
[17:50] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Yes, it is =)
[17:50] <nigelnigel> sinistrad k excellent that you
[17:50] <chroot> its based on debian
[17:50] <nigelnigel> sinistrad thank you
[17:50] <rabbit1> how can i use windows key to open the mainmenu ? (hardy)
[17:51] <acicula> pc__: did you enable the nvidia driver? System->Administration->Hardware driver
[17:51] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Anyhow, when you get someone helping you. Using their name in the sentence normally will highlight it for most irc clients.
[17:51] <sebi`> chroot: try #mandriva
[17:51] <pc__> i'm not too fussed about the screen resolution it's just that i can't get the display to fill the edges of my monitor & i beleive that upping the resolution of my output may be the only way to fill the whole screen on my pc
[17:51] <Blackice115> Hey all, I'm brand new to linux and just installed ubuntu on my laptop. I have a fairly new and powerful computer, but ubuntu is running awfully slow, any suggestions?
[17:51] <operador_> no entiendoo
[17:51] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, that will make it easier for the person helping you to pick out what you are saying amongst all the stuff floating by
[17:52] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, You are welcome =)
[17:52] <nigelnigel> sinistrad when i type tab i get this Sinister sinistrad coming up
[17:52] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Yes, it it showing you both names that are possible matches
[17:52] <nigelnigel> Sinister sinistrad is this bold
[17:52] <pc__> acicula, i'm probably sounding really dumb here but i haven't tried enabling the nvidia driver, i didn't even realsie that i had to, i'm going to give it a try now
[17:52] <graelin> pc__, you have restricted drivers for video installed?
[17:53] <Kentrel> I give up. I can't get my Wacom graphics tablet to work on Ubuntu. Its supposed to be supported natively. What can It ry
[17:53] <acicula> pc__: oki :)
[17:53] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, Yes. It is also lighting up Sinister's screen as well (hehe)
[17:53] <nigelnigel> sinistrad excellent
[17:54] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, ok. Repost your question and chill for a while.  You might pick up some good information watching others. That is why we post in the main channel. So we all can learn.
[17:55] <nigelnigel> sinistrad k cool
[17:55] <knums> someone an idea, to count smb-traffic?
[17:55] <rabbit1> sometimes my application windows sits behind the panel
[17:55] <nigelnigel> sinistrad im gonna retype all my problems in office then repost in a while
[17:55] <Surlent777> http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4156/gnomehom.png <--This is the HOM thing I'm talking about. Any ideas on how I might fix this? I've already tried messing with the nvidia control panel, xvidtune, and Display
[17:56] <nigelnigel> sinistrad thanks again
[17:56] <seanbrystone> Blackice115, unless you have already tried lowering your visual effects settings to None or maybe try a lighter desktop like XFCE, other than that it could be 50 other things going on.
[17:56] <rabbit1> sometimes my application window sits behind the panel, how to move it?
[17:56] <knums> i want to analyze incoming and outgoing traffic over samba
[17:56] <sinistrad> nigelnigel, ok.  Enjoy!
[17:56] <seyacat> Hi ubuntu!
[17:56] <seanbrystone> Blackice115, just curious what computer do you have? Brand/model?
[17:56] <rabbit1> sometimes my application window sits behind the panel, how to move it?
[17:56] <Surlent777> rabbit1: Hold alt and click it
[17:56] <theuros> hi to all.... can someone tell me if i can somehow put my shortcuts to folders in krusader ?
[17:57] <knums> Surlent777, was quicker :)
[17:57] <ethioaman> I have encountered a problem with qt in Karmic. I could not open Virtualbox and vlc seems to be showing a different interface as well. I have posted the outputs from the terminal box.
[17:57] <pc__> acicula, i've just downloaded & installed the nvidia accelarated graphics driver version 185 & it just requires my to reboot the pc, i'' jump back into chat once i've restarted the pc to let you know how it's gone
[17:57] <ethioaman> amanuel@amanuel-admin:~$ virtualbox
[17:57] <ethioaman> VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK10QByteArray7indexOfEPKci
[17:57] <ethioaman> amanuel@amanuel-admin:~$ sudo virtualbox
[17:57] <ethioaman> [sudo] password for amanuel:
[17:57] <FloodBot2> ethioaman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <seyacat> what im missing on Ubiquity i have an error in instalation, (before partitioning) , /target/etc/network/interfaces not exists!
[17:57] <Blackice115> seanbrystone, I haven't tried lowering my visual effects but I just came off of running windows 7 and playing video games just fine. It seems odd that it could be a lack of hardware problem. I just got ubuntu because I didn't know where to start with linux, and I'm feeling pretty confused.
[17:57] <rabbit1> Surlent777: thx, can i make my windows key, to select main menu, jus like in windows, or any other key for that matter?
[17:57] <milinek> hi all, could anyone tell me, how can I remove leading 'n' from output of command lsof -p <number> -a -d cwd -Fn, please?
[17:58] <Surlent777> rabbit1: probably...look around at the keyboard shortcuts options in System > Preferences
[17:58] <rabbit1> Surlent777: also would like to know about, making two windows horizontal or vertical
[17:58] <seyacat> what im missing on Ubiquity i have an error in instalation, (after partitioning) , /target/etc/network/interfaces not exists!
[17:58] <Blackice115> seanbrystone, I have a compaq presario that is a year old, 2 gb ram, dual core cpu, and decent nvidia onboard graphics. Sorry I don't know a lot..
[17:59] <seanbrystone> Blackice115, you might need to enable the graphics card's drivers > System >Administration > Hardware Drivers, if you're going to use graphics effects, wobbly windows ETC
[17:59] <Surlent777> rabbit1: try middle or right clicking on the maximize button
[18:00] <maveas> Hi guys. I'm a bit confused about a new setup. Using Ubuntu Server and some ports are already open. When I am using iptables -L I am not getting any information?
[18:00] <maveas> UFW is ofc inactive as per default
[18:00] <Blackice115> seanbrystone, I haven't messed with any effects, just trying to load pidgin and firefox. It's not that it takes a long time to load so much as i can see the screen refreshing. the updated screen comes down slowly. Even this chat window has to load with each comment.
[18:00] <rabbit1> Surlent777: yeah, that will work, but not like wht we have in widows,
[18:00] <maveas> How come some ports are open? i.e. 80, 22
[18:00] <Surlent777> rabbit1: the Aero effect you want is in KDE now, however
[18:00] <Surlent777> 22 is ssh
[18:01] <maveas> That is not what I am asking..
[18:01] <Surlent777> 80 I think is http
[18:01] <maveas> I know what the ports are for
[18:01] <lonebanyantree> no man page for life
[18:01] <rabbit1> Surlent777: check KBD options, i can't edit it, i mean no option for selecting main menu
[18:01] <nigelnigel> Please help   	 	 	 	 	 	   I have ubuntu and vista on same computer.  I used openoffice on linux and saved a .doc file on a usb.  I can and still can access this file on both the linux and vista on my comp.  But I cannot access it on my university comp that runs Xp business I believe. The usb drive justs shows as blank at uni. It is not a problem with usb as I have used vista and same usb to tranfer files to same comp at uni.
[18:01] <milinek> maveas: it comes that some service is listening on that port
[18:01] <rabbit1> Surlent777: *checked
[18:01] <Surlent777> rabbit1: I see it clear as day. It's labeled "Show the panel's main menu", and the default is Alt+F1
[18:02] <maveas> Please explain that? Cause we've just installed a ftp server on port 22 but the port is not open to the outside
[18:02] <Muscovy> nigelnigel: check the USB's filesystem type.
[18:02] <milinek> maveas: maybe some firewall is blocking the port between the server and 'outside'
[18:02] <maveas> milinek: Nope
[18:02] <acicula> maveas: is ufw enabled?
[18:02] <maveas> acicula: no
[18:02] <nigelnigel> Muscovy ok then recontact you?
[18:02] <acicula> maveas: output from sudo netstat -tulpna ?
[18:02] <maveas> acicula: ufw state is inactive
[18:03] <acicula> (mask your ip if you need to)
[18:03] <Muscovy> If the drive is ext(something), windows can't read it.
[18:04] <nigelnigel> Muscovy it says msdos
[18:04] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[18:04] <rabbit1> Surlent777: it works thx, but whts the other way around, it wont go back
[18:04] <Muscovy> I'm not sure then.
[18:04] <maveas> LISTEN 25, 3306, 587, 80, 22,
[18:04] <nigelnigel> Muscovy ok thank you
[18:05] <Surlent777> rabbit1: I don't know what you mean
[18:05] <Muscovy> I might try backing it up and formatting to fat32 just in case.
[18:05] <rabbit1> Surlent777: i mean it selects the menu, how to close it now
[18:05] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:05] <Surlent777> rabbit1: Esc
[18:06] <acicula> maveas: on a publicly reacheable ip?
[18:06] <rabbit1> Surlent777: yeah, esc works, but with the same key is it possible
[18:06] <ethioaman> evning
[18:06] <Surlent777> rabbit1: no
[18:07] <rabbit1> Surlent777: thanks a lot, all these are small, but very helpful at times
[18:07] <maveas> Well.. there is a problem
[18:07] <Surlent777> rabbit1: no problem
[18:07] <maveas> nmap tells me that some ports are closed..
[18:07] <maveas> Our school are noobs
[18:07] <maveas> :P
[18:07] <ethioaman> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/YmieeEFb
[18:07] <maveas> Well.. beside that
[18:07] <maveas> My question was regarding iptables..
[18:07] <maveas> Shouldn't iptables per default deny every ingoing packet?
[18:08] <acicula> iptables -L gives you rules for a specific table
[18:08] <acicula> maveas: by default it does nothing
[18:08] <maveas> Yeah, but there are none rules
[18:08] <maveas> Oh
[18:08] <milinek> hi all, could anyone tell me, how can I remove leading 'n' from output of command lsof -p <number> -a -d cwd -Fn, please?
[18:08] <philipp__> need help with wine
[18:08] <milinek> philipp__: don't drink it ;-)
[18:08] <maveas> So I should add a rule to deny everything and then add rules to accept specific ports?
[18:08] <Pici> milinek: Pipe it into: cut -c2-
[18:09] <acicula> maveas: default deny blocks everything, so you have to explicitly reenable stuff yes
[18:09] <maveas> Superb.. thanks :)
[18:09] <rabbit1> Surlent777: which is the best theme package you would recommend?
[18:09] <milinek> Pici: thanks a lot :-)
[18:09] <philipp__> could anybody help me with netframework 3.5 and winehq?
[18:10] <nigelnigel>    	 	 	 	 	 	   My wireless internet is not working again, first it wasnt working, then I typed some code for madwifi in that I got off some website, not sure if that help but after a while it started working, now I see the networks that are available but it does not work again. In that I can't connect to my own wireless network
[18:10] <Pici> philipp__: questions about installing things within wine should be directed to #winehq
[18:10] <chroot> 8,4 hello
[18:10] <chroot> 6hello
[18:11] <Surlent777> rabbit1: For a dark theme, I have a slightly-edited version of New SlicknesS 2009. That's my current favorite. I think it was slightly messy to install though. As for synaptic packages, you may want to look into community-themes (Dust is popular) or the shiki-themes
[18:11] <ethioaman> everybody, I have a problem accessing virtualbox. It keeps giving me this error     VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK10QByteArray7indexOfEPKci
[18:11] <genii> !hi | chroot
[18:11] <acicula> ethioaman: mismatched library error by the looks of it
[18:11] <chroot> helle genni
[18:12] <graelin> philipp__, yeah wht Pici said.. but .net framework on Linux? REALLY? I'm not sure but I thought the Mono project was for getting .Net going. may try there
[18:12] <acicula> ethioaman: how did you isntall virtualbox?
[18:12] <Surlent777> rabbit1: the mythbuntu theme is also quite nice
[18:12] <ethioaman> I tried reinstalling the qt libraries and it kept giving me the same thing.
[18:12] <chroot> rabbit1 hello
[18:12] <chroot> hello GodFather
[18:12] <acicula> ethioaman: virtualbox and qt are mismatched
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> anyone here use the ALLGREY icon set?
[18:12] <ethioaman> I also reinstalled virtualbox, still the same
[18:12] <ethioaman> any suggestions
[18:13] <michal__> hi,how to run ngircd???
[18:13] <GodFather> hello chroot
[18:13] <acicula> ethioaman: are you using the ubuntu default qt and virtualbox or custom versions
[18:13] <acicula> or installed as deb, etc
[18:13] <ethioaman> default
  i need netframework because i want use Mathcad 14 @ school
[18:13] <pedja> Hi!
[18:14] <ethioaman> I'm using the ubuntu default qt.
[18:14] <pedja> Somebody speaking serbian?
[18:14] <erUSUL> !serbian
[18:14] <ethioaman> I had also installed qt from nokia it didnt help
[18:15] <linux>  Is there a command like ifconfig to set up DNS  . I mean not by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[18:15] <chroot> rabbit1 hello
[18:15] <Surlent777> well, I guess this is as baffling to everyone else as it is to me...gotta dig harder then I guess
[18:15] <acicula> ethioaman: well either qt or virtualbox are mismatched, try purging all the qt libs and virtualbox stuff and reinstalling virtualbox
[18:15] <pc__> acicula, thank you so much, your instructions have worked
[18:15] <graelin> philipp__, I think you're in for a headache. You'll probably be better off with virtualization like VMWare or Virtualbox (open source there) Seems like if you don't need 3d graphics capability, that may be the best way to go.. other than that check out a search for mono. I tried getting a 3.5 .net app goin before and remember something about that in my travels
[18:16] <acicula> ethioaman: its a dependency problem, so maybe downgrading to an older karmic version of qt/virtualbox may work
[18:16] <acicula> pc__: great
[18:16] <nigelnigel>    	 	 	 	 	 	   My wireless internet is not working again, first it wasnt working, then I typed some code for madwifi in that I got off some website, not sure if that help but after a while it started working, now I see the networks that are available but it does not work again. In that I can't connect to my own wireless network
[18:16] <cami> hola
[18:16] <ethioaman> Thanks acicula: I'll get back to you.
[18:16] <cami> que tal?
[18:16] <seanbrystone> !es  cami
[18:16] <seanbrystone> !es | cami
[18:16] <cami> siii
[18:16] <cami> soy yo
[18:16] <seanbrystone> god dang | pipe commands
[18:16] <cami> emm
[18:16] <cami> que pasoooooo
[18:16] <cami> diganme
[18:16] <pc__> thank you so much, i really appreciate your help acicula
[18:16] <cami> algooooooooooo
[18:17] <acicula> !es
[18:17] <FloodBot2> cami: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <graelin> philipp__, but  by the time I got around to finding that, they ported the app to AdobeAir and I am finally free from the M(S)onster
[18:17] <erUSUL> cami: cami Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[18:17] <cami> no
[18:17] <cami> no hay ganas
[18:17] <cami> carñooo
[18:17] <peterrq> do you know a Voice Changer  for ubuntu?
[18:17] <acicula> cami: english or leave please
[18:17] <erUSUL> !ops | cami
[18:17] <cami> tirense un pedo
[18:17] <pc__> graelin, many thanks for your assistance also
[18:17] <cami> weno
[18:17] <cami> weno
[18:17] <cami> esto
[18:17] <cami> aqui
[18:17] <FloodBot2> cami: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <matt_o> anyone familiar with fork/exec in C?  I am trying to launch a child process by first fork()ing, then exec'ing and am having a really hard time figuring out a reliable way to quickly determine whether the child process launched successfully or errored out.  Anyone got any ideas on how to do this?
[18:18] <ikonia> matt_o: try in ##c
[18:18] <acicula> matt_o: check the pid?
[18:18] <acicula> matt_o: ie the fork result value
[18:18] <acicula> also homework questions wont get you very far in ##c ;)
[18:19] <matt_o> acicula, so fork always succeeds and I can do a waitpid from the parent process on the child
[18:19] <pc__> now that i have a full screen display i'm now off to explore ubuntu some more, i'm loving it so far.  i don't think i'll be going back to windows
[18:19] <Crunkenstein> Why was someone banned for using a language other than english? Is there a spanish channel?
[18:19] <seanbrystone> why is it always the spanish speakers that are the most stubborn to move on to #ubuntu-es? Other languages like Russian, German have no issues with going to #ubuntu-ro or what ever.
[18:19] <Ichat> can anyone help me figuring out   transmission-daemon  on   hardy:    on localhost the webui works,  but on any remote host it doens't  and where i am supposed to edit settings.json  (its just not there ??)
[18:19] <ikonia> Crunkenstein: there is #ubuntu-es
[18:19] <acicula> matt_o: err yes
[18:19] <matt_o> but if the child is running, then I'll be waiting an indefinite amount of time (unreliable)... if it isn't running, then I have to wait for the child process to exit with an error code (as I see it), again waiting an indefinite amount of time
[18:19] <pc__> thanks folks & good night.
[18:19] <graelin> pc__,  unfortunately you will someday.. but be strong.. even an alcoholic can fall from the wagon and get back up again
[18:20] <acicula> matt_o: best move this to ##c
[18:20] <Stargaze> matt_o, check this website and read issues 17 to 14 => http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/full_circle_overview.html
[18:20] <matt_o> ok
[18:20] <acicula> Ichat: it probablt is not avaialbe by default remotely and you have to change a setting to make it available from other computers
[18:21] <acicula> Ichat: mind you thats not recmmened if you are connected to a public network
[18:21] <matt_o> Stargaze, is that supposed to be a joke?
[18:21] <Stargaze> matt_o, what do you mean?
[18:21] <matt_o> Stargaze, I don't see anything at that link that is relevant to the context
[18:22] <guiapp> hi, is there any easy to use GUI application that will allow me to run a command as root every 5 minutes on my karmic computer?
[18:22] <acicula> guiapp: a gui for crontab?
[18:22] <peterrq> do you know a Voice Changer for ubuntu? Anybody?
[18:22] <guiapp> acicula, yes
[18:22] <Ichat> acicula:  -   on  9.10  i was able to install it,  and edit its settings file to  enable access to any host in  the   192.168.10.*   range (being my subnet).
[18:22] <Stargaze> matt_o, check this website, Archive, issues 17 to 24 => http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[18:22] <vladi> hello everyone!!!
[18:22] <vladi> :)
[18:22] <guiapp> a well supported one
[18:23] <acicula> Ichat: maybe you have to explitly set the interface its listening on
[18:23] <Ichat> problem seems that i cant find where its settings are and how they work exactly
[18:23] <matt_o> Stargaze, looks like basic C tutorials to me.. my question is a bit advanced
[18:24] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[18:24] <vladi> i've got a small question to ask... Where do i find the "Battery status file" in ubuntu... i want to make my conky show my battery status in %, but it seems it's not BAT0 or BAT1, as it would be as default... can anyone tell me how to find out the correct "name" of my battery?
[18:24] <nigelnigel>    	 	 	 	 	 	   My wireless internet is not working again, first it wasnt working, then I typed some code for madwifi in that I got off some website, not sure if that help but after a while it started working, now I see the networks that are available but it does not work again. In that I can't connect to my own wireless network
[18:25] <usuario_> hola!
[18:25] <graelin> peace
[18:25] <usuario_> jajaja
[18:25] <seanbrystone> oh here we go
[18:25] <seanbrystone> !es | usuario_
[18:25] <genii> usuario_: English here please
[18:25] <vladi> nigelnigel i had a similar problem with 9.10 karmic.... try downloading WICD network manager...it solved my wireless problems, just look for it in add/remove programs... it's in the ubuntu repos
[18:25] <erUSUL> !es | usuario_
[18:26] <tarnap> usuario_: ping me if you need infos in spanish
[18:26] <nigelnigel> vladi is it a problem with my driver?
[18:26] <tarnap> question: i'm trying to get a 3tb partition to run under ubuntu desktop
[18:26] <vladi> probably
[18:26] <tarnap> i think i have to activate kernel gpt support
[18:26] <tarnap> anyone ever done this? i can't find a good link in the forums
[18:27] <nigelnigel> vladi: anyway ill try out what you said thank you
[18:27] <vladi> in my case...wireless worked perfectly untill i installed the newest ubuntu version.... and ran up on this solution on some forum... i tried Wicd and it worked
[18:27] <vladi> plus
[18:27] <vladi> when you install wicd it automaticly uninstalls the gnome nm
[18:27] <vladi> so no problem with conflicts
[18:27] <nigelnigel> vladi when you say karmic 9.1 is that your wireless cards brand?
[18:28] <erUSUL> tarnap: ubuntu supports gpt just fine
[18:28] <melodie_> hello !
[18:28] <vladi> nigelnigel: no ;)) it's the newest version of the Ubuntu linux distro
[18:28] <vladi> it's Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala
[18:28] <vladi> or smth like that
[18:28] <Stargaze> !hi| melodie_
[18:28] <melodie_> hi Stargaze
[18:28] <nigelnigel> vladi my card is atheros
[18:28] <melodie_> hi niphlhell
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi what card do you have
[18:29] <vladi> nigelnigel: it doesn't really matter
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi ok thank you very much
[18:29] <vladi> i've got a HP wireless card
[18:29] <vladi> ip2200
[18:29] <flodine> is it true lucid wont support older ati cards like 5year old
[18:29] <Pici> flodine : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:29] <vladi> try wicd and let me know how it went
[18:29] <tarnap> erUSUL: glad to hear this... i'll google for big partitions :D
[18:29] <melodie_> I am looking for a difficult problem's answere
[18:29] <melodie_> answer
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi should i really contact you on here
[18:29] <Stargaze> !ask| melodie_
[18:30] <erUSUL> flodine: no true it supports it through the free radeon driver. it is true that *AMD/ATI* do not support older cards in its closed source driver fglrx
[18:30] <vladi> nigelnigel if you want to :) i'll be here....searching for some answers myself :)
[18:30] <mgolisch> is there any special package mirrors that i should use when creating a local mirror?
[18:30] <nigelnigel> vladi great thanks
[18:30] <melodie_> I would like to find out what command line can give me the information about what graphic driver is in use in the system
[18:30] <chintal> hi, i'm unable to login via kdm. it accepts the password and then kicks me out immediately. the same for failsafe as well as kde. could anyone hlp me with this?
[18:31] <erUSUL> melodie_: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help
[18:31] <vladi> no problem :) a lot of ppl helped me out here, when i needed some answers...i'm happy i can finally be of help to someone else :)
[18:31] <mgolisch> melodie_: no idea i usualy grep through the xorg logfile
[18:31] <melodie_> I have gone to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/* directory...
[18:31] <melodie_> erUSUL, thanks I try !
[18:32] <flodine> i got a old Ati mobility fire gl T2 is it true lucid wont support this card and older ones like it?
[18:32] <engine> hi
[18:33] <erUSUL> flodine: already answered you
[18:33] <Pici> flodine: And please use #ubuntu+1 for further lucid questions.
[18:33] <vladi> Can anyone tell me please how do i find out under what name is my laptop battery in ubuntu (ex. BAT0 or BAT1 ....) ??? please anyone?? :)
[18:33] <melodie_> erUSUL, it has loaded.... 4 drivers and unloaded 2 : how many are left ? o_O
[18:33] <melodie_> XD
[18:33] <erUSUL> melodie_: 2 :)
[18:34] <tarnap> ext3 or ext4?
[18:34] <melodie_> erUSUL, is THAT possible ?
[18:34] <genii> melodie_: sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[18:34] <jordo2323> Is there a good web-based BIND management tool that's easily installed in Ubuntu?
[18:34] <melodie_> genii, thanks !
[18:34] <melodie_> I try ! :D
[18:34] <erUSUL> melodie_: could be ... which ones ?
[18:34] <melodie_> intel and i810
[18:34] <flodine> erUSUL you did im sorry i left and came back
[18:34] <melodie_> unloaded vesa and fbdev
[18:35] <erUSUL> flodine: no true it supports it through the free radeon driver. it is true that *AMD/ATI* do not support older cards in its closed source driver fglrx
[18:35] <Fritx> hi folks, I hope someone can help. I need a frontend for MS SQL server 2005, and I need it pretty much now. Does anyone know anything I can quickly install from the repos, that will give me some frontend functionality?
[18:35] <erUSUL> melodie_: so the intel driver it is
[18:36] <flodine> erUSUL  so what do i do firer this old thing
[18:36] <erUSUL> Fritx:  a generic SQL client ?
[18:36] <erUSUL> flodine: use the radeon driver
[18:36] <melodie_> erUSUL, nope
[18:36] <melodie_> genii, it's i915 ! ^^
[18:36] <faron> Hello everybody.Hopefully all are well today.Firefox keeps shutting down everytime I attempt to load a certain webpage.Is there any way at all to stop this ? The page I am trying to load,is an instructional page from within this page...   http://www.blogjer.com/2009/03/02/this-firefox-tweak-release-memory-when-minimized/      The actual page that I am trying to load comes from a link {the word "tip"} from that page.ANY advice ?
[18:36] <Fritx> erUSUL, yeah, well, SQL server 2005 is the only thing that I really need right now, but that sounds good
[18:38] <erUSUL> Fritx: http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/
[18:38] <tvw> Fritx: I would check for a java client: http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients
[18:39] <Fritx> thanks erUSUL and tvw
[18:40] <nigelnigel> vladi it is working now i am 100% wifi thanks bro
[18:40] <erUSUL> !info mergeant
[18:40] <vladi> nigelnigel: hehe i'm happy to hear that :)
[18:40] <tarnap> worx
[18:41] <tarnap> just set the wrong label the first time (msdos)
[18:41] <tvw> I want use ufw for managing the firewall of a server. Is there something like "ufw status verbose" which shows the rules, but when the firewall is inactive?
[18:42] <nigelnigel> vladi i have a button for my wifi to the left of my shutdown button on my desktop, in vista it is blue when it is on, but though my wifi is fine in ubuntu it is showing as orange colour
[18:42] <nigelnigel> vladi i mean on my laptop
[18:42] <vladi> the blue LED is usually the bluetooth
[18:43] <vladi> not wireless
[18:43] <tarnap> blue led is a blue led
[18:43] <melodie_> genii, I'm going to write this command line to my blog so I don't forget it : http://melodie.toile-libre.org/
[18:43] <melodie_> :D
[18:43] <aaronorosen2> Hello, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but does anyone know if Ekiga lets you do a conference video chat with multiple people? (Or anything that does that)
[18:43] <nigelnigel> vladi ah ok thnks
[18:43] <tarnap> une newbie... bonne chance :D
[18:44] <Pici> nigelnigel: Those LED colors are sometimes controlled by software.  I remember that there was a bug in one of our alphas at one point where the LED didn't even light up at all on my wifi but it was working. Its probably something similar in this case.
[18:44] <vladi> if it works than it's ok ;DD
[18:44] <vladi> that's what i always say
[18:44] <maveas> Is it possible to use the systems user accounts to auth on a apache 2 httpd?
[18:45] <hanasaki> where is the list of "these are all the reasons to upgrade to lucid when it comes out"?
[18:45] <nigelnigel> Pici alphas sorry i dont understand the terminology, new to linux, but yes i believe you are correct cause my wifi turned blue with my hp wireless assistant that i needed to access the wireless internet
[18:46] <vladi> maveas why would anyone want that?
[18:46] <Pici> hanasaki: Check the topic in #ubuntu+1 for the alpha3 announcement, it has some of the information.
[18:46] <maveas> I want
[18:46] <msaul_> hi, was wondering if anyone had suggestions for adobe flash, where you can't select "allow" for access to webcam and microphone?
[18:47] <maveas> It's for a site which has to have some kind of auth
[18:47] <nigelnigel> Pici why do i need specific software for wifi, i thought all one needs is the proper driver installed
[18:47] <Guiness> hey guys. :)
[18:47] <Pici> nigelnigel: You dont, I was referring to a kernel module (driver)
[18:47] <aruntomar> msaul_: in the browser when flash player appears, right click and choose properties
[18:47] <maveas> So I though that the users should be able to use their system acounts insteed of creating the same username twice...
[18:47] <msaul_> I right clicked on icon and select settings - I have to use TAB, and it worked for a youtube video, but didn't allow me to selec the radio button when I was on site wiziq for setting hardware...
[18:47] <Pici> maveas: I'm completely guessing, but based on the package name libapache2-mod-auth-pam should provide something like that.
[18:47] <maveas> Pici: I'll look at it. Thanks. <3
[18:47] <nigelnigel> Pici thank you
[18:48] <msaul_> aruntomar: Already been there - did a LOT of reading and trying out
[18:48] <Guiness> well
[18:48] <hanasaki> pici thanks... the list is pretty short
[18:48] <msaul_> Was wondering if there was a general file where I can turn off that dialog box...
[18:48] <Guiness> i spent a day and a half trying to make my wifi card work in my netbook
[18:48] <Guiness> :D
[18:48] <hanasaki> and empathy sucks as a chat client.. no http proxy support
[18:49] <hanasaki> why the switch
[18:49] <Guiness> go go gadget pidgin
[18:49] <Guiness> >.>
[18:49] <sanchez> olaa
[18:49] <nigelnigel> i just installed my first copy of linux/ubuntu are there viruses in the linux world, how prevelant, do i need an antivirus
[18:49] <sanchez> hi!!!
[18:49] <Guiness> hey guys
[18:49] <sanchez> mi name is josep michael
[18:50] <maco> nigelnigel: about 30 of them ever
[18:50] <sanchez> ahh
[18:50] <maco> nigelnigel: AV in the linux world is to check files for viruses before you hand them off to unsuspecting windows users
[18:50] <kay0s> is it normal for hulu to look glitchy and weird on an 8800gts at 1920x1080?
[18:50] <sanchez> maco where do you life
[18:50] <Pici> !ot | sanchez
[18:50] <maco> sanchez: the planet Terra in the system Sol
[18:50] <theadmin> Hm. If $PWD is the same as $(pwd), why do they even need that variable? :/
[18:50] <vladi> maveas: oh....
[18:50] <sproaty> using dual monitors: is there a way to slow my mouse down as it reaches the edge of the screen?
[18:50] <Guiness> is there any way that i can switch from reg ubuntu to the remix netbook version?
[18:50] <sanchez> no see
[18:50] <msaul_> when I right-click and select properties or settings for adobe flash, I can't use mouse, but can tab to selections, and many work except for allow and deny radio buttons....
[18:50] <vladi> maveas: for security i'd say
[18:51] <sanchez> we are stupids
[18:51] <llutz> theadmin: easier to use in scripts
[18:51] <nigelnigel> maco wow so there have only been 30 viruses that have affected linux ever
[18:51] <sproaty> keep going to close a window in the left monitor and going too far and ending up on the other screen
[18:51] <aruntomar> has anybody tried multiseat configuration on karmic
[18:51] <scott_ino2> Im looking for the easiest way to convert a .ogg video file with sound to .flv... was hoping avidemux could do it but it appears not
[18:51] <msaul_> I'm using Adobe Flash 10...
[18:51] <erUSUL> maco: s/Terra/Tierra/
[18:51] <sanchez> sexy moving
[18:51] <maco> nigelnigel: in the wild, yes. ther have been proof-of-concepts not released in order to demonstrate vulnerabilities that were then fixed
[18:51] <vladi> and why does noone want to answer my simple question??? ;)
[18:51] <llutz> nigelnigel: theres other malware you should take care of
[18:51] <theadmin> By the way what will happen if i explicitly set PWD to something else? Will it cd?
[18:52] <nigelnigel> llutz what do i download to take care of that
[18:52] <maco> nigelnigel: trojans can still be a problem of course. dont install software from people you dont trust
[18:52] <sanchez> the vulvaa
[18:52] <maco> sanchez: stop
[18:52] <Guiness> or...does reg ubuntu == remix netbook version?
[18:52] <llutz> nigelnigel: "/dev/brain" :)
[18:52] <maco> Pici: thanks
[18:52] <nigelnigel> llutz thank you
[18:52] <Pici> maco: np
[18:52] <deadpigeon> i dont know.. /proc/acpi/battery
[18:52] <Guiness> thats Pici
[18:52] <riki> irc://irc.darksin.it/atl_revenge
[18:53] <aruntomar> scott_ino2: try sox
[18:53] <nigelnigel> maco trojans do they not replicate is this why they are not considered viruses
[18:53] <scott_ino2> aruntomar, k, looking into it now
[18:53] <maco> nigelnigel: precisely :)
[18:53] <deadpigeon> try ls /proc/acpi/battery
[18:53] <deadpigeon> and it'll either be BAT0 or BAT1
[18:53] <deadpigeon> vladi
[18:53] <theadmin> I dunno, sometimes I get a feeling many newbies act all like "cat /dev/brain > /dev/null"... Sorry everyone. Just wonder why on earth nobody EVER reads the FAQs
[18:53] <nigelnigel> maco so what do they mainly do
[18:53] <maco> nigelnigel: trojans mean someone says "its this great game you'll love it!" and really it screws your computer up
[18:53] <llutz> theadmin:  it won't cd, but $PWD != $(pwd) if you set PWD yourself
[18:53] <Guiness> is there a guide to efficiently set up iptaples?
[18:54] <nigelnigel> maco is there much spyware on linux
[18:54] <llutz> theadmin: don't restrict your feeling to newbies
[18:54] <maco> nigelnigel: on the desktop side, no, but browser-based things like cookies of course still exist
[18:54] <gandhijee> how do i disable an upstart service from starting?
[18:54] <astrojp> Can anyone tell me what version of Python is in 10.4? Is it version Python 2.6.4?
[18:54] <nigelnigel> maco thanks for the great insight
[18:55] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10?
[18:55] <maco> nigelnigel: and OS wont protect you from, for example, cross site scripting or phishing. those are purely online things
[18:55] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10?
[18:55] <Guiness> erorrs: yes, there is
[18:55] <vladi> deadpigeon yes i've tried both and it doesn't work... and when i looked in that folder i got some strange names ;) no bat0 or bat1
[18:55] <llutz> theadmin: there are a lot quite experienced users still shouting "linux is save, no worries"
[18:55] <erorrs> which is?
[18:55] <maco> nigelnigel: noscript is a great firefox extension for keeping javascript from doing badness ;-)
[18:55] <Guiness> erorrs: system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[18:55] <deadpigeon> vladi: well check out /proc/acpi and see what you find. try catting the names
[18:55] <Vigo> errors: There are many.
[18:55] <vladi> deadpigeon: C173 and C174
[18:55] <theadmin> llutz: Uh, it is safe. If you don't act stupidly.
[18:55] <deadpigeon> vladi: try: cat /proc/acpi/batteryC173
[18:56] <melodie_> genii, http://melodie.toile-libre.org/index.php/xorg-auto-et-mon-driver-graphique/
[18:56] <theadmin> llutz: On windows there is still more chance of an infection.
[18:56] <vladi> and my bat is C174
[18:56] <llutz> theadmin: nothing is "save by design"
[18:56] <deadpigeon> vladi: it should return information about the battery if it is that such device
[18:56] <erorrs> is that one not crush in my ati hd 3200?
[18:56] <llutz> safe
[18:56] <flipflop_> Hi!
[18:56] <nigelnigel> maco do you do all your installs through the synaptic package manager
[18:56] <vladi> deadpigeon i've done that... and it's c174
[18:56] <scott_ino2> aruntomar, this will do video as well?
[18:56] <theadmin> flipflop_: Hello.
[18:56] <kay0s> what can I do to reverse the tearing I see in flash based video with an 8800gts?
[18:56] <vladi> deadpigeon: c173 is empty...
[18:56] <deadpigeon> vladi: then it's C174. cat /proc/acpi/battery/C174/state and /info
[18:56] <kay0s> s/reverse/reduce/
[18:57] <flipflop_> I have two laptop and one HD with karmic installed
[18:57] <Guiness> i need help setting up iptables, can anyone help?
[18:57] <maco> nigelnigel: i use the command line, and since i use kubuntu the graphical thing for me would be kpackagekit, but if you mean "does it all come from repositories?" then generally, yes, with the exception of code i write ;-)
[18:57] <scott_ino2> Guiness, what are your needs? can you not just use UFW?
[18:57] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10 stable
[18:58] <flipflop_> the problem is that the graphic card of latpot1 is intel and the laptop2 is nvidia
[18:58] <im2> hi, i am getting following error while installing "libv4l-dev"  http://pastebin.com/Fwb5riE8 . please help
[18:58] <gonzoism> i took a screenshot and included commands to make a fresh install look like my desktop. :)  http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/bchob/a_dark_themed_linux_screenshot_with_the_pirate/
[18:58] <nigelnigel> maco cool i am such a newb cant wait to start writing some code on my own
[18:58] <theadmin> erorrs: Err, I have an ATI video card, it works PERFECTLY, so please be more specific on "ati driver"
[18:58] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to limit the cpu usage for a certain job?
[18:58] <Vhozard> Well, I like the fish, gonzoism
[18:58] <Vhozard>  aliciapg nice ?
[18:59] <scott_ino2> theadmin, really? you don't have tearing issues?
[18:59] <erorrs> please tell me what to do?will i install fglrx
[18:59] <theadmin> scott_ino2: "tearing"?
[18:59] <aliciapg> Vhozard: what?
[18:59] <flipflop_> ima2: sudo aptitude update
[18:59] <Vigo> !ATI
[18:59] <flipflop_> and paste that!
[18:59] <Vhozard>  aliciapg try to use the command ¨nice¨
[18:59] <erUSUL> aliciapg: nice and/or schedtool
[18:59] <scott_ino2> theadmin, yes tearing issues that ATI has been notoriously known for such as fullscrean XV playback
[19:00] <sometux> \o
[19:00] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 I have ati drivers, only when I use smplayer --> preset opengl (ATI CARDS FAST) I get NO tearing
[19:00] <scott_ino2> theadmin, this is with fglrx, not the open source driver which works, however no 3d with open source driver
[19:00] <Vhozard> The preset is called ¨opengl (ATI CARDS FAST)¨
[19:00] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Dunno who is "XV", but i can watch videos and play games and all fullscreen fine. Only problem ever encountered is that during boot, on xsplash, it starts flashing crazily
[19:00] <claptrap> Alright, so I'm about to try recovering a formatted 500 GB HDD onto another 500GB using foremost. My question is, since the originally wiped partition was NTFS, do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS?
[19:01] <erorrs> i have ati hd 3200 will i install fglrx
[19:01] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, but i don't want opengl playback, as Xvideo is a lot more friendly on CPU
[19:01] <scott_ino2> XV as in Xvideo
[19:01] <aliciapg> erUSUL: what exactly does nice do?
[19:01] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Opengl or tearing, your choice
[19:01] <eva> ola
[19:01] <sometux> erorrs:  by default your distro use ati open source drivers
[19:01] <erUSUL> aliciapg: increases the nicenes of the process i.e how nice it is in regards of the others
[19:01] <flipflop_> there exist any channel for graphic card problems?
[19:01] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, that's what im getting at ;)
[19:01] <sarmisak> hi all
[19:01] <nigelnigel> llutz i have checked my synaptic package manager for brain cant find any malware or virus program i also look in dev and saw no brain folder
[19:02] <Guiness> erorrs: i also have an ati hd 3200 in my netbook, you wil go to Sysyem -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[19:02] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 What cpu do you have?
[19:02] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Actually, i'm using built-in drivers. What was the command to see the video card?
[19:02] <erUSUL> aliciapg: the nicer a process the less CPU it will use (is being nice with the other processes)
[19:02] <Guiness> erorrs: ubuntu should auto-detect the card
[19:02] <Guest95519> irse ya
[19:02] <sometux> erorrs: but you can install the ati binary drivers
[19:02] <claptrap> Alright, so I'm about to try recovering a formatted 500 GB HDD onto another 500GB using foremost. My question is, since the originally wiped partition was NTFS, do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS?
[19:02] <Guiness> that too. :P
[19:02] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, 3.4 GHZ quadcore so yes i can afford the overheat, but would rather not have to
[19:02] <aliciapg> erUSUL: well i'm just trying to render a video and my computer is overheating
[19:02] <Guest95519> olaaaa
[19:03] <llutz> nigelnigel: sorry, i was kidding. i meant: there are things, you just have to be carefull and use your brain instead hoping to be safe with a piece of software
[19:03] <scott_ino2> theadmin, lspci?
[19:03] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 xD, 3.4 ghz quadcore, just use opengl and get over it
[19:03] <exaltia> !fr
[19:03] <Guest95519> ola
[19:03] <flipflop_> Guest95519: hola
[19:03] <Guest95519> olaa
[19:03] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, ;)
[19:03] <Guest95519> k tal?
[19:03] <erorrs> so i will go system>admin>hardware driver and install it?
[19:03] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Ah, there. "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]". And that works perfectly
[19:03] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, but i shouldn't have to is what im getting at.. that's all
[19:03] <scott_ino2> not complaining
[19:03] <sometux> erorrs: yes
[19:03] <erUSUL> aliciapg: nice -n 19 command ; if the command is already running you can use renice « renice -n 19 -p <PID> »
[19:04] <nigelnigel> llutz lol a newb will take everything literally should have know better bad you
[19:04] <erorrs> will it be stable?not crash on my ati 3200
[19:04] <sometux> erorrs: you cant also download the driver from ati web site
[19:04] <aliciapg> erUSUL: alright i'll try that. thank you ^-^
[19:04] <scott_ino2> theadmin, you're using open source driver or fglrx?
[19:04] <erUSUL> aliciapg: no problem
[19:04] <claptrap> Nobody have any ideas on the question about foremost? :<
[19:04] <scott_ino2> v
[19:04] <theadmin> scott_ino2: No idea. I'm using whatever came on Ubuntu CD
[19:04] <Guiness> sometux: cant or can?
[19:05] <Guiness> <.<
[19:05] <sometux> erorrs: whats wrong with the opensource driver
[19:05] <scott_ino2> theadmin, do you have compiz enabled or no?
[19:05] <scott_ino2> theadmin, easy way to tell, as it wont work with the open source driver, although in development
[19:05] <erorrs> cant get desktop effects and cant play 3d games
[19:05] <Vigo> claptrap: Are you using it for a Windows install?
[19:06] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Sometimes yes. I keep it off when running hungry processes. Usually it works with Compiz though, too.
[19:06] <arcaos> have some problems burning a 4.4Gb DVD with brasero and wonder if you can provide some assistance
[19:06] <sometux> Guiness: sorry i mean you can
[19:06] <Guiness> sometux: lolk
[19:06] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Love that effect when windows burn when you close them lol
[19:06] <claptrap> Vigo: Trying to recover an NTFS partition; it /had/ Windows on it, a long long time ago, but no, not the install itself. Just the files.
[19:06] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Using the opensource drivers and 2.6.33 gives decent 3D
[19:07] <Vhozard> (kernel 2.6.33)
[19:07] <arcaos> I have a 4.4Gb ISO and a 4.7Gb DVD (which I understand is 4.4Gb really) but it still says not enough space in Brasero and don't know how to work around it
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> Will running "sudo update-grub" (without LiveCD/chroot) find Windows installs and add them to grub2 menu?
[19:07] <arcaos> it has happened many times
[19:07] <theadmin> arcaos: The contents of the ISO can be bigger then ISO itself
[19:07] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, they made it work?
[19:07] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, if they did then im excited as i hated the fglrx driver
[19:07] <Gaja> hi, can somebody help me with the virtualbox?  i`ve got Ubuntu as my host system and windows xp as my virtual system and my virtual system can't connect to the internet. at the channel #vbox nobody can help me :(
[19:08] <melodie_> arcaos, what about using a usb key instead ?
[19:08] <richthegeek> hey, i have a 64gb SSD arriving on Tuesday and want to move my system partition (home is on a seperate) to it. Do I need to any more than copy/paste and reconfig grub?
[19:08] <erorrs> sometux:what i shall do?
[19:08] <aliciapg> erUSUL: it seems like my computer is going to overheat again...
[19:08] <sometux> arcaos: make sure the DVD is empty
[19:08] <arcaos> theadmin: and the ISO was created by Brasero itself...
[19:08] <theadmin> Gaja: Do network interfaces get detected? If no, you'll need some driver.
[19:08] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, what chipset do you have
[19:08] <theadmin> arcaos: Oh. Weird
[19:08] <richthegeek> Gaja: Install the Virtualbox Host Extras
[19:08] <sometux> erorrs: try  the driver shiped with your distro
[19:08] <Vigo> claptrap: Do you wish to recover it or do you want to use it for an Ubuntu install?
[19:08] <theadmin> arcaos: Brasero is freakin' buggy, i myself use k3b
[19:08] <melodie_> arcaos, what is this iso ?
[19:08] <Gaja> How do i install the virtual box host extras
[19:09] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Not using ubuntu, but with arch linux and xf86-video-git + libdrm-git + mesa-git + 2.6.33 I got decent performance (nexuiz 25 fps on ultra settings)
[19:09] <richthegeek> Gaja: it's in one of the menus of the OS window
[19:09] <theadmin> Gaja: There are no host extras, there are guest addons
[19:09] <arcaos> melodie_: movie
[19:09] <sometux> melodie_: but i use it all the time without problems
[19:09] <Vhozard> got two HD4850 in crossfire
[19:09] <richthegeek> Gaja: yes, guest addons.. havent used it in a while sorry
[19:09] <Oasa> tell me an application which will create and write dvd from a .avi or .mpg file it should be fast
[19:09] <melodie_> arcaos, try with gnomebaker
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, ahh i see... excellent glad they stabilized that driver
[19:09] <erorrs> sometux:so will install from system?hardware driver
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, im gonna have to try it out
[19:09] <sometux> melodie_: the only problem is with ripping audio
[19:09] <Vhozard>  xf86-video-ati-git*
[19:09] <claptrap> Vigo: I don't quite understand your question. I just want the files (text files, videos, pics amd mp3s mostly). I'm running Ubuntu as my main OS.
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, this is the radeon driver correct that you speak of?
[19:09] <sometux> erorrs: yes
[19:09] <arcaos> melodie_: will look into it
[19:09] <melodie_> arcaos, else I can give you a command line to burn the iso if you like
[19:09] <Vhozard> yeah
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> Oasa, devede (not sure about the "fast" part, encoding takes time)
[19:10] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, sweet... good to know
[19:10] <melodie_> wodim -v -dao dev=/dev/yourdevice file.iso
[19:10] <Gaja> The guest addons are installed yet
[19:10] <richthegeek> Oasa: devede ... the speed is up to your system and seeing as it needs to convert to the right size and so on, it'll take some time
[19:10] <melodie_> that's good command line arcaos !
[19:10] <richthegeek> Gaja: have you added a network to the setup?
[19:10] <erorrs> sometux:is it not gonna crash on ati 3200?
[19:10] <arcaos> melodie_: would love command line instructions
[19:10] <Vigo> claptrap: Ok, now I understand, do you have a backup , I forget what that thing is called, oh System Restore?
[19:10] <Gaja> richthegeek: how do i add a network to the setup?
[19:10] <melodie_> arcaos, I just gave it to you
[19:11] <sometux> erorrs:  i don't think so
[19:11] <melodie_> arcaos, wodim -v -dao dev=/dev/yourdevice file.iso
[19:11] <theclaw> I tried syncing my phone via opensync (syncml via obex), msynctool seems to receive the entries, but at the end, it just doesn't finish
[19:11] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 And KMS works for me too, finally...
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, im using a radeon HD 3400 which i believe is a R6xx chip, so that's why i was always in a pickle before now i suppose
[19:11] <arcaos> melodie_: sorry, thx
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: stop the virtual machine, in the main window click "settings" or "config"
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, wow nice... that's sweet
[19:11] <claptrap> Vigo: Not of the files that were wiped, no. I've got an sbackup of Ubuntu.
[19:11] <erorrs> sometux:if crashes then what should i do?
[19:11] <melodie_> welcome arcaos ! let's know the result !
[19:11] <arcaos> channel is going too fast :)
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: there is a tab/section called "Network" or similar.. Add one
[19:11] <Vhozard> r6xx was better supported than r7xx
[19:11] <Gaja> richthegeek: Nat is activated
[19:11] <sometux> erorrs: uninstall it
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, true, but still wasn't very stable at least when i tried it about 4 months ago
[19:11] <erorrs> how?
[19:11] <Oasa> Thanks .. i will try devede... ZykoticK , richthegeek.. any other alternativ ?
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: that's not the same thing...
[19:12] <flipflop_>  there exist any channel for graphic card problems??
[19:12] <richthegeek> Oasa: they all run into the same issue with encoding.. devede is a nice enough GUI
[19:12] <Gaja> richthegeek: one host network is activated
[19:12] <richthegeek> flipflop_: the #compiz channel usually know about that sort of stuff, though they may be a bit haughty
[19:12] <Vigo> claptrap: May take some Forensic Recovery or whatever to attain access to those , have you tried probing it with Wine or some emulator?
[19:12] <richthegeek> Gaja: right... give me a minute to install vbox
[19:12] <erorrs> sometux:how to uninstall from command line?
[19:13] <richthegeek> erorrs: sudo apt-get uninstall [package-name]
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> erorrs, "sudo apt-get remove $PACKAGNAME"
[19:13] <theadmin> erorrs: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[19:13] <sometux> erorrs: still you can run the gui
[19:13] <theadmin> richthegeek: Oh, uninstall? Since when?
[19:13] <claptrap> Vigo: The drive was /formatted./ From NTFS to ext3.
[19:13] <richthegeek> theadmin: sorry, I got confused.. I have two .bashrc aliases for "install" and "uninstall"
[19:14] <theadmin> richthegeek: Hm, i just have an alias for "sudo apt-get" (it's "apt")
[19:14] <Jon-> How do I add an item to the startup [applciations run after login] in 9.10?
[19:14] <richthegeek> theadmin: that also works but I rarely do anything other than install/remove
[19:14] <Oasa> !devede
[19:14] <webdawg> Hey All.  I was following the synergy autostart instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto) and I am having problems.  It work fine except for one thing.  It seems that the Xsession.d script that kills and runs synergy starts synergy too early and makes it so synergy grabs my display resolution too quick.  It results in only one monitor switching.  Is their a way to make this script run AFTER my desktop/display has been fully started?
[19:14] <Brandon_> hi everyone
[19:14] <ZykoticK9> Jon-, System / Preferences / Startup Applications
[19:14] <Oasa> !hi | Brandon
[19:14] <arand> claptrap: Have you looked at "photorec"?
[19:15] <claptrap> arand: Yeah, that recovered a /very/ minimal amount. (16 GB)
[19:15] <skx> How to turn off content caching in Nautilus? Now it files on filesystems that are not even mounted, I would like it to show actual files, existing, available and up-to-date
[19:15] <Vigo> claptrap: Yes, nothing is ever really erased, unless you have access to a huge Electron Magnet and stuff, any data on almost any Magnetic or Digital thing can be recovered.
[19:15] <sometux> need advice about the best desktop recorder?
[19:16] <claptrap> Vigo: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I don't understand how WINE would be able to access anything on it, though? Unless I'm misunderstanding.
[19:16] <scott_ino2> sometux, i have quite a bit of experience with desktop recorders/screencasts what can i help you with
[19:16] <claptrap> Vigo: I just paid $60 for a new a new 500 GB HDD because it seemed like a full recovery was the only route to go. D:
[19:16] <sometux> scott_ino2: what the best to you on youtube
[19:17] <Vigo> claptrap: That was my error, I thought you stated that it was a or had been a Windows Partition, still active.
[19:17] <scott_ino2> sometux I normally host the videos myself, but depends on what output format you want, length of screencast and sizes you want
[19:17] <AwardedZero> hello room
[19:17] <richthegeek> AwardedZero: an unambitious programmer?
[19:17] <Pepa> Olaa
[19:17] <sometux> scott_ino2: i think of xvidcap
[19:17] <claptrap> Vigo: Ah, yeah, that's what I thought you thought. :p So, my question then: do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS in order to recover the old one?
[19:18] <fkm_> Hi and goobye ^^'
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, gtk-recordMyDesktop is very fluid, easy to use and creates high resolutions but large file .ogg.
[19:18] <Vigo> claptrap: From where? I need a new HDD now, mine is failing as we speak.
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, honeslty i never liked xvidcap
[19:18] <Pepa> ai alguien español!
[19:18] <claptrap> Vigo: Best Buy. :o
[19:18] <theadmin> !es | Pepa
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, wink is another application which allows for addition of text as well if you need that, but no audio on the linux version, but works in wine
[19:18] <webdawg> claptrap: you want to recover NTFS data?
[19:18] <xxiao> got a new 1TB, want to share data with windows, vfat is the format I have to use, but what's difference between FAT32(LBA) and Ext'd(LBA) under fdisk?
[19:18] <webdawg> claptrap: on a formatted drive?
[19:18] <Pepa> theadmin!
[19:18] <claptrap> webdawg: The partition that was originally formatted was NTFS, yes.
[19:19] <goodtwist> if a make command fails (in my case a permission error) do you need to clean anything up before trying again?
[19:19] <webdawg> and your formatted it?
[19:19] <claptrap> webdawg: Yeah. It's ext3 now.
[19:19] <Vigo> claptrap: Yes, that was what I had in mind, format it NTFS, then recover whatever blocks you can.
[19:19] <Pepa> Alguien abla in spanish?
[19:19] <xxiao> wish ntfs-write is working well under linux
[19:19] <webdawg> If you did a full format it would overwrite the entire drive right though?
[19:19] <genii> Pepa: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:19] <scott_ino2> xxiao, as far as i know it works just fine
[19:19] <Pepa> genii
[19:19] <claptrap> webdawg: Yeah, the files are deleted. That's what I'm trying to recover. :p
[19:20] <Pepa> GENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[19:20] <Losha> xxiao: ntfs-3g works very well nowadays....
[19:20] <genii> !es | Pepa
[19:20] <claptrap> Vigo: Do you have any suggestions on the best way to go about that? Just use foremost, or... ?
[19:20] <webdawg> No.  The point is that if you where to overwrite a drive with zeros then the files are gone unless you have a magnetic microscope.
[19:20] <webdawg> If you just changed the partition table it would be different.
[19:20] <Vigo> claptrap: You could even use a Recovery Console, it is possible, but may take more than just a few simple programs to recover any lost data.
[19:20] <arcaos> melodie_: efectively both ways it indicates the file is slightly too big, will have to find another workaround
[19:21] <richthegeek> webdawg: a full format doesn't write the whole disk to zeroes, that'd take too long
[19:21] <arcaos> melodie_: thx anyway
[19:21] <claptrap> webdawg: Well, some of the files have been able to be recovered, so I know there's something there.
[19:21] <theadmin> Hm, i have a weird question.
[19:21] <webdawg> Then you can get some data back if what richthegeek says is true.
[19:21] <Vigo> claptrap: Maybe something like DVD disaster or something along those lines?
[19:21] <webdawg> I would try a 'quick' format then.
[19:21] <webdawg> then use your recovery software.
[19:21] <theadmin> I often get "filesystem mount failed"... And then it drops me to recovery shell... I am able to run fsck trough there and it fixes it... Question is... How can i run something if the root filesystem ain't mounted?!
[19:21] <webdawg> what software are you using?
[19:21] <richthegeek> webdawg: technically, but they wouldn't have any start markers so it'd be a PITA
[19:22] <webdawg> pita?
[19:22] <AwardedZero> i have a question about my desktop i dont really know how it happened but top edge panel has somehow become a side bar. how do i undo this if any one can help please????
[19:22] <sometux> what do you think is the best hypervisor?
[19:22] <xxiao> going to try ntfs-3g, under fdisk there are two NTFS (da db) which one should be used?
[19:22] <genii> webdawg: "pain in the ..."
[19:22] <claptrap> Vigo: Well, my resources are limited, honestly. I don't have a DVD drive, or a USB drive bigger than 128 MB. The new HDD tapped me out.
[19:22] <webdawg> ohh yeh.  truth.
[19:22] <acicula> netboot?
[19:22] <sometux> kvm qemu xen ?
[19:22] <richthegeek> webdawg: pain in the ... posterior
[19:23] <sometux> which is the best kvm qemu xen?
[19:23] <trism> AwardedZero: right click the panel, choose properties, set the orientation back to top
[19:23] <claptrap> So, what should I try then? I don't have Windoze installed atm, Ubuntu is the only OS I have access to. No DVD, basically no USB stick,
[19:23] <theadmin> sometux: As far as i know, kvm is a frontend to qemu
[19:23] <acicula> sometux: google a bit, kvm is a hypervisor module for the linux kernel, qemu is a simulator and xen is a hypervisor with kernel
[19:24] <Vigo> claptrap: No, DVD Disaster is a package in Linux, there are other recovery utilities, many of them, is just a very tough situation that you posed.
[19:24] <zongo> hi guys, just wanted some advice on how to install a 3G usb modem. I used mod_switch but it is not working great. Any ideas ?
[19:24] <mamapapa> hello
[19:24] <mamapapa> i am looking for Chanel of caning plz every body know Any one??
[19:24] <acicula> qemu can use kvm
[19:24] <Nitro`> hello :P
[19:24] <claptrap> Vigo: Ah, I see.
[19:24] <theadmin> mamapapa: "caning", what's that?
[19:24] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, kvm requires CPU virtualization, qemu does not
[19:24] <sometux> acicula: at the end they all do the same job, right!
[19:24] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: ...oh
[19:24] <acicula> sometux: in different ways yes
[19:24] <mamapapa> oups yes sorry
[19:24] <mamapapa> scanning
[19:25] <laron> where can i find firefox plugins aftery they've installed?
[19:25] <theadmin> mamapapa: If you have a question related to Ubuntu in any way, you can ask here.
[19:25] <mamapapa> lik irc.indoirc.net
[19:25] <AwardedZero> tks trism
[19:25] <laron> in the filesystem that is
[19:25] <acicula> laron: about:plugins in the url bar
[19:25] <sometux> acicula: I read about xen and think its the best of all even hyper-v
[19:25] <Vigo> claptrap: An HDD is like a stack of DVDs , basically, kinda depends on the make and model, but it was a shot in the dark to try and assist you.
[19:25] <theadmin> laron: $HOME/.mozilla/plugins i belive
[19:25] <maveas> Is it possible to change the ssl port of 22 to 21 for vsftpd?
[19:25] <mamapapa> ah
[19:25] <mamapapa> non
[19:25] <mamapapa> thanks
[19:25] <acicula> sometux: depends
[19:25] <sometux> acicula: how?
[19:26] <claptrap> Vigo: So do you think that would work better or worse than, say, foremost or testdisk?
[19:26] <richthegeek> Vigo: that is almost the worst analogy I have ever heard....
[19:26] <mamapapa> This is an open sources what questions to be related about it !!!!!
[19:26] <sometux> acicula: i think xen has the best performance
[19:26] <acicula> they all provide virtualization but different approaches/performance
[19:26] <minoritystorm> I came from a RedHat/Fedora world, just exploring Ubuntu and how far did it went, I was wondering if all Ubuntu desktop release is as complicated as karmic. ?
[19:26] <sometux> acicula: as a production system
[19:26] <Vigo> Ok so that was bad, I just re-read it, my apologies
[19:27] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: How do you mean complex? you mean getting codecs for free?
[19:27] <acicula> sometux: i dont use production virtualisation so i cant comment on that, try #xen
[19:27] <webdawg> peace
[19:27] <richthegeek> hey, i have a 64gb SSD arriving on Tuesday and want to move my system partition (home is on a seperate) to it. Do I need to any more than copy/paste and reconfig grub?
[19:27] <Vigo> claptrap: oh wait, I was asking about HDD failure and one of these nice people gave me a great link, one moment,,,
[19:27] <sometux> acicula: offtopic where your from?
[19:27] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: no, I mean opening /boot/grub/grub.conf and finding it a little bit of complicated ?!!!!
[19:28] <justin__> come posso cambiare il tema
[19:28] <justin__> '
[19:28] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: U9.10+ uses Grub2... what are you trying to do?
[19:28] <theadmin> minoritystorm: It's not complicated. If you've used KDE before, it's available in the repositories
[19:28] <claptrap> Vigo: Alright.
[19:28] <laron> how can i enable a firefox extension for new users?
[19:28] <Vigo> claptrap: Maybe this can help: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[19:28] <laron> working with /etc/skel
[19:28] <Losha> claptrap: last time I used DVDdisaster, it worked by computing error correcting codes so you could recover damaged data if it occurred later on. It's useless unless you generated error correction data up front, so it totally doesn't apply to your situation...
[19:28] <theadmin> laron: Firefox uses a profiling system. New users will have to install the extensions themselves.
[19:29] <claptrap> Losha: Hello again, Losha! And ah, I see.
[19:29] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: as any innocent linux user, editing passed kernel parameters for example, setting vga..etc :)
[19:29] <justin__> come posso cambiare il tema del mio pc
[19:29] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: try using the "startup-manager" package
[19:29] <acicula> richthegeek: in principle that is all you need to do, dont forget fstab though :)
[19:29] <theadmin> ...What language is that?... (one that justin__ dude speaks right now)
[19:29] <Losha> claptrap: sorry you're still struggling. I still think your best chance is EASUS on windows....
[19:29] <richthegeek> acicula: ah yes, GUIDs -_- :@
[19:29] <acicula> richthegeek: also make sure you copy while preserving permissions and ownerships!!
[19:30] <richthegeek> acicula: what's the cp flag for that?
[19:30] <OerHeks> !it | justin__
[19:30] <theadmin> OerHeks: Thanks.
[19:30] <acicula> richthegeek: p i think, check the man page
[19:30] <claptrap> Losha: It probably is. Problem is, I can't find a good way to install Windows. :p No DVD drive, and a teeny-tiny USB stick.
[19:30] <DarkStar1> This is a question for an fstab expert. The last number/coloumn in the list, does that specify the load order of the partition/device with respect to the others listed?
[19:30] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: should I ?
[19:30] <acicula> DarkStar1: no
[19:30] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: yes
[19:30] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: no manual editing ?
[19:30] <Losha> claptrap: beg or borrow one?
[19:30] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: just run this... "sudo apt-get install startup-manager; sudo startup-manager"
[19:31] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: its startupmanager, no ?
[19:31] <richthegeek> could well be
[19:31] <Vhozard> need some help, should I eat a spoon?
[19:31] <claptrap> Losha: Don't know anyone in the area. :( Haven't been here long.
[19:31] <theadmin> richthegeek: Spaces are important, or else apt-get will pass that semicolon in package name and... epic fail
[19:31] <richthegeek> Vhozard: if you think it might help
[19:31] <Pici> !ot | Vhozard
[19:31] <acicula> DarkStar1: man fstab will desribe the fields
[19:31] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: lollll.... Segmentation fault :D
[19:31] <DarkStar1> acicula: Ey? :-/ what's it for? I just entered the information for a partition and I incremented the number from the last device
[19:31] <Vhozard> ok, thank you
[19:31] <kennyG> hello folks!
[19:32] <acicula> sometux: i dont see why that is relevant
[19:32] <richthegeek> theadmin: really? I thought the ; was a syntax char in bash and would recognise it as such
[19:32] <claptrap> Losha: Do you think that would work from like, VirtualBox?
[19:32] <theadmin> richthegeek: Well, apt-get is kinda stupid sometimes
[19:32] <acicula> DarkStar1:       The  sixth  field,  (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8) program to determine the order in which filesystem checks are done at reboot time.
[19:32] <kennyG> I need to ask you a few questions about how to exchange from Windows to Ubuntu. Could someone help me please?
[19:32] <sometux> acicula: no problem!
[19:32] <richthegeek> theadmin: nope, that command worked fine. Bash is cleverer than you give it credit for
[19:32] <acicula> DarkStar1: but not as in 1,2,3,4
[19:33] <richthegeek> Minoritystorm: oh dear... there is a wiki article on editing Grub2
[19:33] <Losha> claptrap: been there, tried that. It doesn't. File recovery requires low-level block access to the drive. You generally don't get that from emulators/simulators...
[19:33] <theadmin> richthegeek: Hem, it didn't work on Mint. Weird.
[19:33] <kennyG> I need to ask you a few questions about how to exchange from Windows to Ubuntu. Could someone help me please?
[19:33] <claptrap> Losha: Ah. ><
[19:33] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:33] <DarkStar1> oh so the new partition should also be 2
[19:33] <richthegeek> theadmin: might use a different terminal emulator by default
[19:34] <theadmin> richthegeek: Modified gnome-terminal. Nevertheless, it still is bash.
[19:34] <xxiao> Losha: is ntfsprogs the right utility to use with ntfs-3g, need format the partition now
[19:34] <acicula> DarkStar1: i did not say that
[19:34] <Losha> claptrap: I can't think of a solution to your problem I'm afraid. You simply don't have enough hardware...
[19:34] <Sp3c1alK> Hi, I'm trying to set a variable equal to the number of times a program is running. I'm using: noipRunning=`ps aux | grep "noip" | wc -l` whihc results $noipRunning as being set to 1, but it should be 2. Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:34] <acicula> DarkStar1: read the man page for fstab if you are doing manual edits
[19:34] <theadmin> xxiao: You need ntfsprogs to format to NTFS, yes.
[19:34] <richthegeek> theadmin: maybe apt has been patched then
[19:35] <claptrap> Losha: Is foremost really that unreliable? )=
[19:35] <xektrum> hello, does anyone knows a backtrack channel ?
[19:35] <theadmin> xxiao: There was a bug in 9.04 however (not sure if it's present in other releases) that would freeze the system when you mkfs.ntfs for large partitions
[19:35] <acicula> xektrum: #backtrack ?
[19:35] <sometux> exit
[19:35] <DarkStar1> acicula: Thanks I just googled the wiki, it should have the value of 0,1,or 2
[19:36] <acicula> DarkStar1: thats correct
[19:36] <xektrum> I think it is not official
[19:36] <xektrum> xD
[19:36] <richRemer> Is there a way to disable or change all of the Alt+_ menu shortcuts in GNOME?  For example, I want to assign Alt+F to find, but GNOME won't let me because Alt+F is already defined for the File menu.
[19:36] <acicula> !ubuntu | xektrum
[19:36] <xektrum> I need to fix my screen resolution on a persistent live usb installation that i have
[19:36] <xxiao> theadmin: thanks. i'm formating 1TB ntfs already, if you see me logout that means my ubuntu freezes
[19:36] <llutz> spc: "pgrep -c <pattern>"
[19:36] <acicula> xektrum: no backtrack support here
[19:36] <Pici> xektrum: #backtrack-linux
[19:36] <acicula> i hear #backtrack-linux  is good though
[19:36] <xektrum> thats it
[19:36] <xxiao> actually not, i'm ssh-to-server and doing that ntfs formating
[19:36] <Losha> claptrap: actually, I confess I've never used foremost. I don't think you've anything to lose by trying it, as long as you only read from the damaged drive and don't try to write to it...
[19:37] <xektrum> thanks Pici
[19:37] <xxiao> theadmin: thanks!
[19:37] <acicula> xxiao: why not format ntfs from windows?
[19:37] <claptrap> Losha: Yeah, that's my plan. It's the only reason I decided to plunk down sixty dollars I don't have on a new HDD. )=
[19:37] <Nollog> Can someone help me connect to a network with Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
[19:37] <acicula> Nollog: what have you tried
[19:37] <xxiao> acicula: it's a remote ubuntu box with 1TB USB hooked
[19:37] <shad0w_crash> Heey anyone knows a place where to ask c++ questions ?
[19:38] <Pici> shad0w_crash: ##c++
[19:38] <Losha> claptrap: I understand....
[19:38] <xxiao> actually I'm thinking about having two partitions, 1TB for a partition maybe too big, plus I can have a vfat just in case
[19:38] <fastputty1> hello
[19:38] <theadmin> acicula: (s)he might have not windows, right?
[19:38] <claptrap> Losha: EASEUS would still need the second HDD anyway, right?
[19:38] <acicula> xxiao: vfat really is only good for small disks
[19:38] <acicula> theadmin: then why would (s)he be formatting ntfs/vfat
[19:38] <Nollog> acicula: I'm not sure what I've tried... I'm currently making a driver for it which is outdated by the ones already on the disk.
[19:39] <Jef91> I need a piece of Linux software that will let me burn a .vob or .avi file to a DVD I can play in a DVD player, suggestions?
[19:39] <seanbrystone> backtrack is pretty good, but keep in mind its based on a pretty old Ubuntu (Intrepid 8.10), not ancient by any means, but still almost 3 releases old (if you count Lucid which is next month)
[19:39] <richthegeek> Jef91: devede
[19:39] <xxiao> acicula: smaller partition will do i guess
[19:39] <acicula> xxiao: correct
[19:39] <erUSUL> Jef91: devede or qdvdauthor
[19:39] <xxiao> acicula: some of my linux box does not have ntfs-3g loaded
[19:39] <fastputty1> someone could tell me how to log to ssh without putting password. I have regen a key priv and pub suing ssh-keygen -t rsa. and put the .pub file in the .ssh/authorized_keys  of the server.. but it still asking me to put password
[19:39] <theadmin> acicula: I have a huge external hard drive, for instance, that i use on both Linux AND windows, but i don't have Windows on this machine, so when i formatted it, i had to format in Linux. Makes sense?
[19:39] <Losha> claptrap: yes, I don't know of any reputable restore program that will restore to the very same drive it's trying to rescue from, if you see what I mean...
[19:39] <acicula> theadmin: you have access to windows
[19:40] <Jef91> Thanks erusul and richthegeek, I tried qdvdquthor and the repo version kept dumping on me going to try devede
[19:40] <xxiao> theadmin: that's what i'm doing
[19:40] <theadmin> acicula: Well, right now i'm dual booting with XP, but back before i couldn't use Windows. Grub1 refused to boot it :/
[19:40] <wolf> does anyone use gcl?
[19:40] <fastputty1>  someone could tell me how to log to ssh without putting password. I have regen a key priv and pub suing ssh-keygen -t rsa. and put the .pub file in the .ssh/authorized_keys  of the server.. but it still asking me to put password
[19:40] <acicula> Nollog: rolling your own drives might not be the best way to get it to work
[19:41] <acicula> Nollog: does iwconfig in a console show a wireless card?
[19:41] <xxiao> these days my family PCs keep getting unremovable malware and I'm persuading everyone to use ubuntu
[19:41] <tomtom2> is there a seperate channel for UEC?
[19:41] <xxiao> they can still do a vmware-xp or something, if malware hits just reload a fresh vmware-xp
[19:41] <seanbrystone> xxiao, that is the best way, good for you , i did the same thing recently :)
[19:41] <Coppered> Hello ...i am running Ubuntu 9.10...  I need to upgrade Thunderbird to 3.0 so it is comptablith with my google calender/blackberry.   Could someone here walk me through the steps of upgrading to Thunderbird 3.0....as it is not included in the Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic.   Thank you.....
[19:42] <richthegeek> Coppered: download the .tar.gz from the website (UNLESS there is a .deb), make, make install
[19:42] <theadmin> Coppered: I think you'll have to download from Mozilla's site. They have a PPA too. So you can use that. Just a sec.
[19:42] <seanbrystone> xxiao, get sandboxie for that xp-vmware, be 2 times safe, that's a sandbox within a sandbox :)
[19:42] <Nollog> acicula: yea, wifi card even searches for networks and everything. In the default network manager it keeps popping up asing for wpa key (it's 100% correct, I have a text file of it and it works on every other device), but with wicd, it shows the network, I click connect and it authenticates, then when it tries to get an ip it fails after a long time.
[19:42] <xxiao> seanbrystone: when I first saw the malware i did manual removal, regedit,blarblar, caused me two nights, still not fully fixed, now I removed that dual-boot partition for good
[19:42] <Coppered> im  NOOB in all fo this....so what ever is best according to u all is most appreciated. ......holding on you admin.
[19:42] <acicula> Nollog: can you connect via network manager and paste the output of syslog?
[19:42] <Tadys> a
[19:42] <richthegeek> Coppered: scratch that, it runs straight off after extraction
[19:42] <Nollog> syslog?
[19:43] <theadmin> Coppered: Use the PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:43] <acicula> /var/log/syslog
[19:43] <Nollog> I think wicd removed the manger
[19:43] <acicula> yeah they arent really compatible
[19:43] <Coppered> hmmm ok going there now....will stay in this room while i do this......
[19:43] <Tadys> hello, how can I update my radeon hd 3400 draivers ?
[19:43] <acicula> i guess trying with wicd works as well, syslog will tell whats going on
[19:43] <acicula> Tadys: update to what?
[19:43] <melodie_> Tadys, go ahead
[19:44] <Tadys> a new version
[19:44] <seanbrystone> xxiao, yeah, well theres a couple linux anti-virus/ rootkit removers i think work on NTFS clamav and rkhunter or something, you can use those to scan the windows drives, but yeah, prolly just better to use xp in a VM
[19:44] <Nollog> It should be in the log from last night anyway, I haven't cleared it.
[19:44] <acicula> why would there be a new version?
[19:44] <xxiao> seanbrystone: i need pay for the sandboxies thing though, why is it better than vm?
[19:44] <seanbrystone> no theres a free version
[19:45] <seanbrystone> not saying its better than a vm, im saying you can use it along WITH the VM for even added paranoia ;)
[19:45] <richthegeek> just noticed something *very* odd.... I ran sudo mysqldump and it started doing the dump before I had entered the sudo password
[19:45] <theadmin> xxiao: Yeah, there is a free release. Also, Avast has... or HAD at least a Linux version to get rid of Windows pests while on Linux
[19:45] <Tadys> becouse know for me now dusnt work gnome effect
[19:45] <theadmin> richthegeek: sudo caches the password for 5 minutes or so
[19:45] <xxiao> theadmin: ok thanks though i rarely trusted those malware-removals
[19:45] <acicula> richthegeek: if you used sudo before in the same session it'll remember
[19:46] <richthegeek> theadmin: yes, it asked me for the password so it required auth
[19:46] <xxiao> mkfs.ntfs runs really slow, need wait to get home and find a windows box to format ntfs i guess
[19:46] <Firus> hi!
[19:46] <shahin> i'm having real problems with flash in ubuntu 9.10. youtube is working fine though. have an old ati radeon 9600 pro. any ideas anyone?
[19:47] <acicula> a VM doesnt make you safer, just lets you trow away "used" systems easier and apply stronger separation
[19:47] <gandhijee> does ubuntu actually read the /etc/Network/Manager/nm-system-settings.conf for network manager?
[19:47] <acicula> gandhijee: hvae you restarted the network manager service?
[19:47] <theadmin> Hm. Is there a emergency shutdown combo? (say, Alt+SysRQ+ R E I S U B is a reboot one)
[19:48]  * xxiao did my best to voice deb (instead of rpm) on the new meego thing these days
[19:48] <acicula> theadmin: from a real console the three finger salute might work
[19:48] <richthegeek> theadmin: you could bind one to a bash script if you wanted
[19:48] <gandhijee> acicula: yes
[19:48] <gandhijee> acicula: i've went as far as restarting the whole machine
[19:48] <theadmin> acicula: You mean the CAD?
[19:48] <acicula> yup
[19:49] <theadmin> ...I thought that's a windows thing...
[19:49] <acicula> gandhijee: then i dont know, it should be at least Network Manager, not Network\Manager
[19:49] <acicula> err without the space even
[19:49] <Nollog> acicula: http://pop.nollog.co.cc/terminal.txt
[19:50] <acicula> Nollog: it doesnt finish associating with the network
[19:50] <Nollog> I wasn't sure where to stop copying...
[19:50] <cinek40> Furahia mwaka mpya!
[19:51] <theadmin> ...what the heck
[19:51] <Coppered> theadmin: i have done as you said and installed the PPA via the proper terminal command.   will i now find Thundbird 3.0 in the Software Center/Synaptic or....what shall i do next?
[19:51]  * richthegeek is now installing 10.04a3
[19:51] <predator_x> hi guys..need ur help...my videos dont stream.. im using mozilla ...
[19:51] <predator_x> what shld i do?
[19:51] <richthegeek> coppered: update first, then it should appear
[19:51] <theadmin> Coppered: You should see it in synaptic. But you should also check for updates.
[19:51] <richthegeek> coppered: sudo apt-get update
[19:51] <Coppered> thank you
[19:51] <acicula> Nollog: this on jaunty?
[19:52] <Nollog> Uh, kraos? ubuntu 9.10 netbook
[19:52] <acicula> Nollog: the last 50 lines probably is enough
[19:52] <acicula> Nollog: open ap, wep or wpa?
[19:52] <gandhijee> acicula: what should be Network Manager?
[19:52] <frankS2> Is there any way for removing pulseaudio for ever and roll back to using only alsa?
[19:53] <blackxored> has someone experienced problems with delicious firefox addon and the "authorize delicious" button for posting bookmarks to twitter????
[19:54] <theadmin> Can someone explain me what on earth does :(){:|:&};: do, actually, step by step, what each symbol means? I just don't know all that good bash syntax. NOTE: THIS STUFF IS DANGEROUS, DO NOT RUN!!!
[19:54] <richthegeek> theadmin: it's a bash fork attack
[19:54] <llutz> theadmin: that is a fork bomb, read wikipedia and man bash
[19:54] <hwilde> Pici, u around ?
[19:54] <sub_pop> forkbombing ftw
[19:54] <Coppered> theadmin & richthegeek: i have executed the update commmand.   it is now best to find Thundbird in Synanptic.....?
[19:54] <tester2010> ciao ;))
[19:55] <llutz> theadmin: explanation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[19:55] <acicula> theadmin: defines a functin that calls itself?
[19:55] <acicula> and then runs itself
[19:55] <theadmin> llutz: Thanks
[19:55] <erUSUL> theadmin: is a fork bomb you shouldn't be putting it here. : is true in bash basically you create subshells like crazy that only run true or something like that. people over on bash can probably give you the full picture
[19:55] <erUSUL> theadmin: help true
[19:55] <acicula> :() = function def, {} da function, etc
[19:56] <acicula> gandhijee: can you disable N mode on your router
[19:56] <gandhijee> acicula: router doesn't have an N mode
[19:56] <gandhijee> acicula: this actually has to do with network manager trying to manage the wireless interface
[19:57] <gandhijee> and i can't figure out for the life of me how to have NM ignore my wifi
[19:57] <acicula> gandhijee: well networkmanager is the default for that
[19:57] <Coppered> theadmin.....to upgrade Thunderbird....do i have uninstall the prior version first.....?
[19:57] <acicula> gandhijee: right click nm-applet and select disable wireless?
[19:57] <theadmin> Coppered: You'd better. Use Synaptic to find the latest release.
[19:57] <richthegeek> Coppered: you should be able to either update ("sudo update-manager") or "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[19:57] <gandhijee> acicula: that means i have to do it everytime
[19:57] <Coppered> may i private message with one of u?
[19:57] <richthegeek> sure
[19:57] <Coppered> i have found T 3.0 in synamptic
[19:58] <acicula> gandhijee: well lets try to get your network working first before worrying about making it permanent
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: i want it set up so it just ignores it at boot, and if i want to configure it i can from cmd line/scripts
[19:58] <Coppered> hanks rich will pm u in a moment
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: networking is already up
[19:58] <grendal_prime> hey guys i got this 810 box thats being used as a server (it has a crazy big intall footprint as the it people put a desktop on the thing)  Anyway i ran the typical update on the thing and now it has installed lilo?  it also has grub on it...should i uninstall lilo?
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: i'm just trying to have it ignore the wifi
[19:59] <acicula> gandhijee: if you configure it statically in /etc/network/interfaces networkmanager will just ignore it
[19:59] <gandhijee> acicula: i guess maybe i don't know how to setup the wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:59] <nigelnigel> i installed clam av in the synaptic manager but cant find it anywhere now
[19:59] <MainGear> Is there someone around with experience on the latest Ubuntu Server, and built in ICH4 fax modems on laptops? I'm having problems with getting mine to work (for use later with HylaFax)
[20:00] <acicula> gandhijee: man interfaces
[20:00] <gandhijee> kk
[20:00] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:00] <nigelnigel> gandhijee my wifi was not working then i installed wicd dont know if that will help, apparently the new ubuntu has some problems with wifi
[20:00] <acicula> nigelnigel: no clamav command?
[20:01] <grendal_prime> lilo vs grub?
[20:01] <linxeh> grub.
[20:01] <acicula> death to lilo
[20:01] <gandhijee> nigelnigel: my problem is that i don't want Network Manager to manager the wifi
[20:01] <gandhijee> FILO ftw
[20:01] <acicula> also grub2
[20:01] <linxeh> lilo was great... 10 years ago
[20:01] <grendal_prime> right but if i remove lilo will the system goot
[20:01] <grendal_prime> boot that is
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: no it wont
[20:01] <grendal_prime> it looks like both are installed
[20:01] <linxeh> do you mean remove the lilo package, or remove the lilo boot loader from your disk ?
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: not unless you are installing another bootloader
[20:01] <grendal_prime> how can apt-allow that
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: there can only be one
[20:02] <mkey> hey
[20:02] <nigelnigel> acicula does it not show as an icon do i have to type it into the terminal im new to linux
[20:02] <gandhijee> KLAB ftw
[20:02] <grendal_prime> aptitude says the are both installed
[20:02] <irvken> my ubuntu box is booting to a initramfs prompt, what can I do to make it boot properly?
[20:02] <acicula> nigelnigel: commandline only
[20:02] <linxeh> acicula: tosh. you can install the packages for as many as you want...
[20:02] <nigelnigel> what command do i type
[20:02] <mathis> hello everyone
[20:02] <abdat> hi all
[20:02] <acicula> linxeh: you can only have one working bootloader tough
[20:02] <nigelnigel> acicula what command do i type and does it enable me to scan the whole comp or only one file at a time
[20:02] <mathis> i just installed kubuntu 9.04
[20:02] <acicula> nigelnigel: read the docs on clamav?
[20:03] <linxeh> acicula: indeed :)
[20:03] <mathis> but i need to view videos in youtube
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula no i will
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula thanks
[20:03] <mathis> so i need flash player
[20:03] <mathis> can anyone help me?
[20:03] <jamiew> hi gang. I'm running hardy, but it's repository has an older and buggy version of Ruby 1.8.7 -- is there best-practices for upgrading? from source? add karmic as a pkg repository?
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula are there no other virus programs that i can just run as an icon
[20:03] <acicula> !virus | nigelnigel:
[20:03] <mathis> how to install flash in kubuntu 9.04
[20:03] <dp> I'm trying to use distcc to help a box speed up compile times.  however, I'm getting exit code 110.  the remote distcc box is an ubuntu box.  anyone know how I should go about setting up ubuntu to work?
[20:04] <hwilde> !flash | mathis
[20:04] <acicula> nigelnigel: clamav is designed to scan mail mostly
[20:04] <acicula> no gui programs
[20:04] <acicula> dp: look up what the error code means
[20:04] <mkey> if anyone has time... root compromised.... users logging in under root...best advice...not staying long...
[20:04] <dp> acicula: it means no compiler
[20:04] <nigelnigel> acicula what does: this do !virus | nigelnigel: im new to irc
[20:04] <dp> on the ubuntu side
[20:04] <abdat> can someone help me i have win7 boot cd on my usb and i want to install it using virtualbox but they dont have the option for it
[20:04] <nmvictor> is their a key binding that substitutes for an enter key?
[20:04] <acicula> dp: well try installing one ;)
[20:04] <Nollog> acicula: WPA2(-PSK) Sorry about the silence from me, I was trying to get a clean sysslog but it doesn't write to it when I use wicd?
[20:04] <dp> acicula: I have one.
[20:05] <DFenz> anybody that has any guidelines for a xubuntu noob like me?
[20:05] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:05] <llutz> mkey: take from net, consider fresh install
[20:05] <acicula> nigelnigel: it tells ubuntu to send you a message
[20:05] <ferdinando> elisa
[20:05] <mathis> thank you for the link, ubottu
[20:05] <irvken> why do i just get initramfs prompt when I boot
[20:05] <acicula> Nollog: i see, but i dont understand your problem, apeparantly wireless works?
[20:05] <TheMozart> when does the latest Ubuntu going to be released?
[20:06] <claptrap> k, I must be doing something stupid. I'm trying to follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost But the "sudo mount" command throws the error: mount point /recovery does not exist
[20:06] <acicula> TheMozart: end of april somewhere
[20:06] <claptrap> What'm I doing wrong?
[20:06] <mathis> april 29
[20:06] <TheMozart> acicula: so its not out yet?
[20:06] <mkey> llutz thanks... thought so but wanted to make sure...bbak when i can
[20:06] <acicula> claptrap: create the directory where you are mounting the voulem
[20:06] <acicula> *volume
[20:06] <acicula> TheMozart: its not out yet
[20:06] <nigelnigel> acicula excellent didnt know there was such a functiion thank you
[20:06] <mathis> lycid lynx will be 10.04 or end of april
[20:06] <TheMozart> the latest Ubuntu isn't released until end of APRIL? you sure?
[20:06] <mathis> positive
[20:06] <claptrap> acicula: I did that; still getting the error.
[20:07] <claptrap> acicula: Unless... hm, sec.
[20:07] <TheMozart> anyone confirm that?
[20:07] <acicula> claptrap: then there is a typo or the directory does not exist
[20:07] <psusi> releases always happen in april and october
[20:07] <acicula> !lucid | TheMozart read here
[20:07] <psusi> hence the version number of 10.04... month 4 of the year 2010
[20:07] <TheMozart> whats the current version? 9.10?
[20:07] <Nollog> acicula: wireless doesn't work, lan does.
[20:07] <psusi> yep
[20:07] <mathis> yes
[20:07] <zongo> how can I know if I am running Ubuntu 64-bit ?
[20:07] <mathis> 9.10
[20:07] <acicula> zongo: uname -a
[20:08] <claptrap> acicula: Ok, so I CD'd to the hard drive containing the directory.
[20:08] <zongo> it tells me x86_64
[20:08] <acicula> Nollog: right
[20:08] <claptrap> acicula: Ew, didn't mean to send that. I think I got it, thanks.
[20:08] <nmvictor> is their a substitue key or key binding for <enter>, my enter key is disfunctional
[20:08] <mathis> goodbye and thanks again for the help ubottu
[20:08] <erUSUL> zongo: 64 bits
[20:08] <hwilde> somebody with network experience please
[20:08] <acicula> Nollog: can you try disabling the N mode on your router?
[20:08] <hwilde> erUSUL, u know anything about pings?
[20:08] <acicula> hwilde: just ask your question
[20:09] <zongo> ok - I actually no idea that I could run 64-bit as well
[20:09] <zongo> because the 32-bit version was running ok
[20:09] <prendin> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu on a new laptop of a friend of mine. I cannot identify my wireless card, can someone help me?
[20:09] <erUSUL> hwilde: make the specific question and we will find out
[20:09] <acicula> the difference for end users is pretty marginal
[20:09] <erUSUL> :)
[20:09] <acicula> prendin: pastebin the output from lspci and we'll tell yu
[20:09] <acicula> *you
[20:09] <hwilde> when I try to ping a host defined my /etc/hosts I cannot ctrl+c to quit the ping
[20:10] <acicula> let it run for a few before trying to ctrl-c
[20:10] <hwilde> I DID.
[20:10] <TheMozart> Ubuntu 10.4 was released in the last week I heard..isnt that true
[20:10] <prendin> acicula: thats the problem, its not showing up in the lspci, will post it, just a sec.
[20:10] <acicula> i hvae the same issue with network progs sometimes
[20:10] <Pici> TheMozart: Its not April 29th yet.
[20:10] <faron> hello again everybody.hopefully somebody can help with this...recently installe the new Firefox 3.6.........now trying to watch craig ferguson's late late show @ http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_late_show/video/?pid=2OOR7hmktehG6eKoWLSszLfWfc5TwE5P&vs=homepage&play=true           the site doesn't seem to be recognizing that I have the latest version of Flash though.Anybody have any suggestions ?
[20:10] <acicula> prendin: then lsusb while you are at it :)
[20:10] <erUSUL> hwilde: maybe something is capturing the crtl + c ? it is in a plain gnome-terminal ?
[20:10] <TheMozart> Pici: wow, ok... my info was dead wrong :P
[20:10] <theadmin> TheMozart: There is an alpha available. The release date for 10.04 "The Lucid Lynx", however, is April, 29th, 2010
[20:10] <Pici> hwilde: And do you still need me?
[20:10] <hwilde> erUSUL, correct.  and the ^C shows on the screen
[20:10] <TheMozart> theadmin: ok
[20:11] <hwilde> Pici, wonder if you have any insight why I can't quit pings if the host is defined in /etc/hosts and not responding
[20:11] <aeon-ltd> faron: ...............maybe cos upgrading firefox doesn;t upgrade flash
[20:11] <joshuah> what's a good program for taking notes in class?
[20:11] <erUSUL> hwilde: well i see the ^C too but ping stps ...
[20:11] <prendin> acicula: here it is, http://pastie.org/867003
[20:11] <Nollog> How do I start up normal netowrk manager again?
[20:11] <Nollog> uninstalled wicd
[20:11] <kinja-sheep> joshuah: Notepad and a pencil.
[20:12] <stsfanatic> Hey there. I someone familiar with STREAMING VIDEO on www.justin.tv ?
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: output from lsusb, also check in the bios, is your wireless enabled ?
[20:12] <faron> aeon-ltd      I do have version 10+ flash
[20:12] <joshuah> kinja-sheep: that's not a program ;D, plus my handwriting's bad
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> joshuah: if you have a netbook, vim
[20:12] <Pici> hwilde: Sorry, no idea :/
[20:12] <prendin> acicula: I think it is, let me do that command, It was working on ubuntu 8.04
[20:12] <solsTiCe> hi. if i want to install a openvz kernel in ubuntu 9.10. i need the server edition ? i can't do that in my desktop x86_64 ?
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: well its not showing :/
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> faron: in firefox in the add-ons go on plugins click check for updates and mozilla will check for you
[20:12] <kinja-sheep> joshuah: Well, it is a known fact that people LEARN more when they're writing things on papers rather than typing stuffs. :)
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: rfkill switch maybe, paste the output from rfkill ?
[20:13] <joshuah> kinja-sheep: arg, maybe I'll try that then :P
[20:13] <hwilde> erUSUL, Pici acicula    http://paste.ubuntu.com/394217/
[20:13] <prendin> acicula: lsusb http://pastie.org/867007
[20:13] <faron> thanks very much too aeon-ltd
[20:13] <aeon-ltd> faron: oh did it work?
[20:13] <prendin> acicula: rfkill? is there any options for that command?
[20:14] <Losha> joshuah: not to mention the capacity, and superior battery life...
[20:14] <faron> don't know yet my friend
[20:14] <faron> back in a minute
[20:14] <Nollog> 00ts3025
[20:14] <elijah_> hello
[20:14] <joshuah> Losha: haha, though I'd argue in some of my classes my computer would outlast me there
[20:14] <elijah_> can someone help me with audio problems?
[20:14] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[20:15] <elijah_> can someone help with sound problems?
[20:15] <hwilde> !alsa | elijah_
[20:15] <my_haz> how do i make it so that the volume controll box does not come on when i press the volume keys in intrepid?
[20:15] <elijah_> my sounds randomly stopped working
[20:15] <prendin> acicula: I will check my bios, even tough I think its enabled, if I try ifconfig, it says that my card doesnt have any wireless extensions..
[20:15] <acicula> prendin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1234213
[20:16] <hwilde> elijah_, try running alsamixer in a terminal and see if it's muted (press m)
[20:16] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: have you check alsamixer
[20:16] <penocio> how to install a .bin ?
[20:16] <acicula> seems an usb wireless card?
[20:16] <hwilde> penocio, ./ it
[20:16] <acicula> prendin: rfkill list
[20:16] <acicula> will list what wireless devices are blocked
[20:16] <greg_B> hello
[20:16] <erUSUL> hwilde: does this stop the ping (after 10 secs) ??   ---> ping 10.0.0.1 & ping_pid=$! ; sleep 10 ; kill -SIGINT $ping_pid
[20:17] <prendin> acicula: shows nothing
[20:17] <sergeykish> Hello, I have "Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL" on smbclient connect.
[20:17] <elijah_> i got alsa mixer
[20:17] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:17] <elijah_> it doesnt work
[20:17] <cmecca> hey guys --- whats the equivalent to .Xdefaults today... i know ubuntu doesnt read that
[20:17] <Nollog> ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:17] <acicula> works here
[20:17] <cmecca> id like to change the look/feel of xterm
[20:17] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: what do you mean it doesn't work?
[20:17] <elijah_> ubottu: i got alsa mixer and still doesnt work
[20:17] <acicula> blackxored: seems offtopic for ubuntu
[20:17] <erUSUL> cmecca: .Xdefaults should work
[20:17] <elijah_> the sound isnt working
[20:17] <cmecca> erUSUL: :F
[20:17] <tomm-i> Hi. How do I temporarily increase the font size so that I'm able to see my chats while go to sofa and watch videos at the same time?
[20:17] <acicula> sergeykish: means whatever you were trying did not work
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: go to a terminal type alsamixer and make sure all bars are at the max and aren't showing MM
[20:18] <cmecca> erUSUL: does X have to restart?
[20:18] <blackxored> acicula, it doesnt' because I'm running ubuntu and this seems like a xul rendering bug
[20:18] <acicula> prendin: unless you are sure its a pcie device it looks as per the thread i linked that is an usb wireless card
[20:18] <hwilde> erUSUL, ummm yes
[20:18] <cmecca> erUSUL: or can you launch xterms from a new xterm that reads that
[20:18] <sergeykish> acicula: I can't find the probem - reinstalled samba, check few configurations. Always get the same
[20:18] <greg_B> I connect to a shared drive at work through PLACES>Connect to Server>Secure WebDAV, but one file type won't download.
[20:18] <prendin> acicula: can that be an internal usb wireless card?
[20:19] <acicula> prendin: yup
[20:19] <erUSUL> cmecca: either that of you have to run a command to load the file in the Xerver. i forgot what command it is but google should find it in a split second or two :)
[20:19] <elijah_> still doesnt work
[20:19] <prendin> acicula: I see,so that topic you pointed out has some work arounds on this?
[20:19] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: still doesnt work
[20:19] <helo> upgrading a desktop software development system from jaunty to karmic: will it work easily?
[20:19] <greg_B> does anyone have any ideas about why one file type would be "not found" on the network drive?
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: what are you using to test sound
[20:20] <greg_B> helo, i've seen many reports saying make a clean install
[20:20] <hwilde> greg_B, is it a windows share?  could be a windows shortcut to some other file
[20:20] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: rythm box
[20:20] <acicula> prendin: i hope so :P
[20:20] <theadmin> Can I somehow delete all files on the hard drive which end in "~"? (those are usually backup files, AFAIK)
[20:20] <prendin> acicula: thats bad :( someone pro like you dont know for sure, im screwed xD
[20:20] <acicula> theadmin: just like any other file?
[20:20] <greg_B> it's a networked drive if i'm on campus; off campus it is a secure WebDAV
[20:21] <acicula> prendin: well pro does not mean omnipresent and allknowing
[20:21] <prendin> acicula: thanks for pointing that out, im going to check it out and maybe comeback here
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: and you have check alsamixer properly, and your speakers are properly connected and are 100% working, and rhythmbox isn't muted and the file isn't corrupt
[20:21] <greg_B> i have connected sucessfully without the windows sharing package installed
[20:21] <prendin> acicula: thanks dude =) appreciated
[20:21] <dj_segfault> theadmin: find / -name '*~' -delete
[20:21] <hwilde> erUSUL, Pici, acicula        http://paste.ubuntu.com/394217/    <-- weird huh?
[20:21] <ubuntu_> elo wszystikim
[20:22] <theadmin> dj_segfault: Woah, that find thing is powerful %)
[20:22] <acicula> hwilde: i have similar behaviour
[20:22] <acicula> if a program does netowkr stuff that is
[20:22] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: yeah everything was working yesterday, and sound works on my other os
[20:22] <greg_B> i can download pdfs, docs, even ods files, but odt files are "not found"
[20:23] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: all volume controls checked?
[20:23] <jayvir> hi
[20:23] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: ypu
[20:23] <elijah_> *yup
[20:23] <kristian_> i've just created a .html file and opened it in firefox, it contains only the english alphabeth + 3 norwegian letters (æøå) which normally displayes fine when i view a norwegian online newspaper, but for someone reason it does not display correctly when i open a local .html file, any idea of what package i need to get? running ubuntu 9.04 (english).
[20:23] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: did you perform any updates/changes to the system?
[20:23] <theadmin> greg_B: Did you by any chance do something like "chmod -R 000 *.odt"?
[20:23] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: no
[20:23] <elena70> hola
[20:24] <greg_B> no, i've done no terminal commands regarding that folder
[20:24] <prendin> acicula: dude, I just got his laptop documentation, it seems its a Mini-card pci-e wireless device.
[20:24] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: my friend was playing saurbraten on my computer and after it was messed
[20:24] <elena70> alguienhabla español?
[20:24] <prendin> acicula: does that means something to you?
[20:24] <theadmin> greg_B: I'd still check the permissions of those .odt files if i were you... Well, if not that, then no idea
[20:24] <elena70> alguien habla español?
[20:24] <theadmin> !es | elena70
[20:25] <elena70> gracias
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: do you use any other sound system e.g like OSS?
[20:25] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I want to send mail from a bash script. Would you advice to install exim4?
[20:25] <greg_B> windows box did not have the problem--does windows deal with permissions the same way?
[20:25] <acicula> prendin: check the bios if its enabled
[20:25] <elena70> pero hablo poco ingles?
[20:25] <prendin> acicula: k, brb
[20:25] <elena70> pero hablo poco ingles
[20:25] <acicula> !es
[20:25] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: before i just used the one that came with the computer/ os
[20:25] <faron> aeon-ltd still there ?...I'm sorry my friend gonna have to go for now but I AM indeed being told that I do need to update shockwave flash........BUT.I thought for sure that I had the latest version !.In fact.....I am almost certain
[20:26] <theadmin> greg_B: Windows _has_ no permissions. Everyone can access everything. I belive.
[20:26] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: oh and on wine programs the sound works
[20:26] <grendal_prime> hey guys...i just upgraded an awfully bloated subversion server and the mysql server is now bitching this...  Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: does youtube on firefox work?
[20:26] <elena70> hola ruben
[20:26] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Does here.
[20:26] <grendal_prime> my question is if i uninstall mysql im not going to ace the data right?
[20:26] <greg_B> OK.  I'll look at those permissions.  You expect they're different?
[20:26] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it never has, internet problem
[20:26] <theadmin> !ops | someone tell elena70 to stop this
[20:26] <elena70> hello
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: because if it works in wine it sounds more like a rhythmbox problem
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: how about mplayer? any sound from any video player?
[20:27] <acicula> grendal_prime: well it shouldnt but it doesnt hurt to dump your database and back it up first
[20:27] <gnomefreak> elena70: may i help you?
[20:27] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it doesnt work on linus games though
[20:27] <elena70> ok thanks
[20:27] <jkhjkjkhk> привет
[20:27] <elijah_> aeon-ltd|: linux**
[20:27] <elena70> no thank you
[20:27] <jpds> !ru | jkhjkjkhk
[20:27] <grendal_prime>  I can reinstall the binarys and the data will remain (im using apt to do this)
[20:27] <acicula> grendal_prime: rather then relying on that there are no conversion differences between db versions
[20:27] <mneptok> elena70: do you have a support question?
[20:27] <Nollog> acicula: G only, unprotected setup, and still no connection.
[20:27] <elena70> what is your name?
[20:27] <elena70> no
[20:27] <theadmin> jkhjkjkhk: Здравствуйте. Увы, здесь канал на английском. Зайдите в #ubuntu-ru для русской поддержки
[20:28] <mneptok> elena70: then please leave this channel.
[20:28] <gnomefreak> elena70: if you do not have a support question or helping people with support questions please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:28] <acicula> Nollog: intel 4695agn right?
[20:28] <Traxxer> anyone knows why my wubi-installer is downloading a ubuntu9.10 desktopamd64.iso via torrent while i started the installation from cd.. actually i dont even have 64bit
[20:28] <elena70> you are bored
[20:28] <grendal_prime> acicula: ya, that would have been nice...i was under the impression that they had backed up the entire box. (vmware)  before we started this..but aparently not
[20:28] <elena70> hello ruben
[20:28] <mneptok> elena70: stop.
[20:28] <Nollog> acicula: yupp
[20:28] <grendal_prime> now the dbserver will not start soooo its kinda difficult to dump it
[20:28]  * gnomefreak watching still
[20:28] <elena70> silence
[20:29] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it doesn't work on any linux apps
[20:29] <greg_B> forgive my noobidity, but how shall i terminal those files on the shared drive?
[20:29] <seanbrystone> whats a good scanning software for Ubuntu, I want to scan documents and stuff. I have the Dell A920
[20:29] <Nollog> I'm uploading some syslog
[20:29] <acicula> grendal_prime: so start the db , dump the data anyway
[20:29] <theadmin> gnomefreak: Thanks... Gotta go now though :D
[20:29] <acicula> Nollog: did you pastebin the output from syslog yet, i got you confused earlier with someone else here
[20:29] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: the games are most likely not built with ALSA integration and re-install rhythmbox see if anything happens with a fresh install, .
[20:29] <Nollog> acicula: pop.nollog.co.cc/syslog.txt
[20:30] <Nollog> firefox runs slow on this, so I just upload it to my server
[20:30] <p0e> hello there... having an issue with a .sh file I wrote to change my wallpaper and using it with 9.1, worked fine in .04.. i'm a total noob
[20:30] <grendal_prime> acicula: the db wont start
[20:30] <Nollog> acicula: http://pop.nollog.co.cc/syslog.txt
[20:30] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: nothing works with sound, video player, internet, rythmbox etc
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: wait. don't in ubuntu there should be a setting to set what mixer to output to the speakers make sure all of them are set to alsa
[20:30] <grendal_prime> it errors on start up...
[20:30] <nh2> is there an equivalent to autorun.inf on windows? I would like to run a shell script on usb stick insertion
[20:31] <Nollog> Says something about the driver not letting it auth?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: got it, thanks
[20:31] <acicula> grendal_prime: :/
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: did it work?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: i just started fooling around with my sound drivers and now its working, adios
[20:31] <acicula> Nollog: can you try with network-manager?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: thanks for your gelp
[20:31] <Nollog> acicula: I did.
[20:31] <greg_B> The network people on campus thought it could be a browser plugin, because the windows machines get to the shared drive by the open as web folder dialog in IE.
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: help*
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: your welcome
[20:31] <p0e> anyone out there mind giving me a hand?
[20:31] <Nollog> I had to restart to get it back
[20:32] <Traxxer> anyone knows why my wubi-installer is downloading a ubuntu9.10 desktopamd64.iso via torrent while i started the installation from cd.. actually i dont even have 64bit
[20:32] <acicula> hmm, then i dont know why its not working for you
[20:32] <ph8> is the facebook plugin for pidgin in karmic apt broken?
[20:32] <acicula> maybe there is something in the wifidocs im overlooking
[20:32] <acicula> !wifi
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> p0e: whats the problem? and for future reference just post the question instead of asking permission to
[20:32] <greg_B> GNOME cannot determine permissions.   I do not know how to direct the terminal to the shared drive.
[20:32] <nmvictor> is their a keyboard shortcut for <enter>, I am using an iBook
[20:33] <faron> aeon-ltd here's a quick ? b4 I have go.....seems u might no a bit about upgrades/fire ?............after doing this upgrade I went looking around @ the addons I had installed & I noticed that Noscript & ubunt firefox modifications under the extensions tab had been disabled byt the new version upon install & informs me that these 2 extensions are not5 compatible with the new FF........Do you have any advice fro me regarding this ?
[20:33] <linxeh> nmvictor: how about "enter" ?
[20:33] <p0e> the problem is that under 9.04 the *sh file ran, and in 9.10 it doesnt. i have a crontab up to run it every minutes... i think the directory for the wallpaper has changed with 9.1
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> ph8, you don't need the plugin anymore, there is a way to setup Facebook using Jabber now.
[20:33] <perlsyntax> What would be good for ssh tunneling on ubuntu 9.10?
[20:33] <MainGear> !modem
[20:33] <acicula> perlsyntax: ssh
[20:33] <greg_B> does the "connect to server" dialog under PLACES use the gvfs package?
[20:33] <perlsyntax> that all i need.
[20:33] <ph8> ah i remember, thanks ZykoticK9
[20:33] <acicula> yes
[20:34] <Nollog> acicula: Well, I did google for a good half a day and everyone else with a similar problem either updated their kernel to a version lower than mine, but higher than theirs, or got no replies.
[20:34] <zongo> is the "force-architecture" in "dpkg" forcing the install of a 32-bit onto a 64-bit machine ?
[20:34] <perlsyntax> How can i just use ssh for all my internet.
[20:34] <greg_B> I can't seem to get any information.
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> faron: if it doesn't support it you can force it to but the stability might not be great, generally its best to wait for the devs to update it
[20:34] <acicula> perlsyntax: were not here to jailbreak your internet connection ;)
[20:34] <jreb_> quick question, attempting to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using alternate install cd, it refuses to install w/o a network connection......is it now not possible to upgrade w/o a network connection? My connection, while not as slow as dialup, still ain't that good, would take at least 24 hours to download everything..........I'd rather break the downloads up into smaller sessions if possible
[20:34] <perlsyntax> i never said that.
[20:35] <perlsyntax> i just want to be safe online that all.
[20:35] <perlsyntax> :P
[20:35] <wng-> Does anyone have any tips on resolving this bug on 9.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/275152 - can i just compile a new version of the driver from source and install it? or will that not work on 9.04, i cannot upgrade to 9.10 at this time
[20:35] <faron> let me ask this........aeon-ltd....... would those 2 things.......................
[20:35] <acicula> a tunnel wont help you there
[20:35] <zongo> I am trying to install adove reader and from what I read I have to use dpkg -i force-architecture
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> p0e: did you upgrade normally or wipe and install?
[20:35] <faron> possibly interfere with any browsing ?
[20:35] <zongo> I was just trying to understand what that was doing exactly
[20:35] <acicula> Nollog: recheck the wifi troubleshooting list is all i got, from what i found on google it should work
[20:35] <Nollog> wifi troubleshooting list?
[20:36] <acicula> !wifi | Nollog
[20:36] <greg_B> how does one change permissions on a mounted disk through secure webdav?
[20:36] <p0e> I had this program working fine with 9.04, then formatted, installed 9.04 from USB and then upgraded.
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> faron: not sure never forced a addon before
[20:36] <jwaters> anyone have apple.com/trailers working, HD ones pop quicktime required
[20:36] <acicula> zongo: man <packagename> will tell you what an option does
[20:36] <faron> aeon-ltd- I mean if I just left them alone like I've been doinbg ?
[20:36] <MainGear> Followin the guide on community/DialupModemHowto/AlsaModem the modem cannot detect rings (when there's a incoming call), and I can't get my modem to work well using community/DialupModemHowto/Smartlink - anyone with experience on this?
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> p0e: user permissions might not be set correctly so its not that its not working, its that it can't
[20:37] <greg_B> how does one change permissions on a folder on a disk mounted through secure webdav?
[20:37] <faron> cuz I've been having a couple of issues since upgrade aeon-ltd
[20:37] <zongo> thanks
[20:37] <p0e> i followed the instructions the same as i did when i set it up under 9.04
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> faron: just no-script?, unlikely it would just do what its designed to do, block scripts on pages
[20:37] <p0e> are wallpapers stored in a different directory in .10? the sh file has gconftool-2 -t str --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename but i'm not seeing any /desktop to go into
[20:37] <acicula> jwaters: it doesnt work, which is a problem caused by apple unfortunatly
[20:38] <greg_B> how does one change permissions for files in a folder mounted as a disk through secure webdav?
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> p0e: i don't use ubuntu, but you can check, just browse around in nautilus till you find the wallpaper dir.
[20:38] <acicula> does webdav even allow modifying permissions greg_B ?
[20:38] <p0e> i did, /usr/share/wallpapers.. i think i'm just going tot ry another route to setting this up
[20:38] <p0e> modifying the SH file for that directory accomplishes nothing btw
[20:39] <greg_B> i don't know--it's been sgguested that i try it.
[20:39] <cmecca> does ubuntu 9.10 no longer support pcf fonts? i cant get them to work.. even though i can view the ones i installed in xfontsel
[20:39] <Nollog> acicula: I had ti running fine on a laptop two days ago, can I get the windows driver and make it work for linux? I read something about that but I have no idea how to do it.
[20:39] <Nollog> it*
[20:39] <acicula> Nollog: in some instances that does work
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> p0e: do you mind sending a link to me for this guide?
[20:39] <acicula> Nollog: what changed?
[20:39] <acicula> running the windows driver is not really recommended though
[20:39] <p0e> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/pipermail/blug/2007-April/002295.html
[20:39] <Nollog> I took it out of my laptop and put it in a nettop. :p
[20:40] <acicula> well maybe its just ubuntu netbook that doesnt support it yet, idunno, never dealt with that
[20:41] <p0e> the only deviation i made from the instructions (and the first time I set it up) was I set up the crontab before i ran chmod
[20:41] <Nollog> Does the netbook version cut out stuff?
[20:41] <greg_B> acicula: that is why i'm trying to find out, but your question makes me wonder whether it's possible--and if it isn't, that's not my underlying problem
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> p0e: you needed to run chmod first, if you set cron to run the script without adding executable rights to it it won't run
[20:42] <p0e> how do i remove it from crontab -l
[20:42] <acicula> p0e: crontab -e
[20:42] <jrib>  p0e unless you're talking to someone in particular, this channel has a 0-line memory
[20:42] <faron> see I'm wondering if  even though noscript is supposedly disabled if it might still be interfering/it might be the cause of  my flash not beeing recognized.1 reason I say this is the way I had it set up {noscript} I had to click on a noscript icon within the flashplayer itself in order for the player to work aeon-ltd
[20:42] <p0e> hmm?
[20:43] <acicula> Nollog: well yeah it does, but most importantly its not exactly the same as ubuntu as far as i know
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> is there a way to trim down ubuntu?
[20:43] <greg_B> Ok.  I'll try again later.
[20:43] <jrib> !minimal | Sj4m35-15
[20:43] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: short of disk space?
[20:43] <aeon-ltd> faron: it won't interfere if its disabled, definitly
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> i already have mint installed.
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: yes
[20:43] <jrib> !mintsupport | Sj4m35-15
[20:44] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: so how much space do you have to play with?
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> p0e: i have no idea. don't use cron, but i reccommend reading the man pages of crontab
[20:44] <faron> hmmmmmWell now then I wonder why  my flash is not being seen
[20:44] <p0e> aeon: yeh i'm just going to go another route, thanks for the help
[20:44] <acicula> faron: check if its seen by firefox, use about:plugins in the url bar
[20:45] <acicula> if not then install the flashplugin?
[20:45] <faron> 'I'm certain I do have the latest version
[20:45] <faron>  already done
[20:45] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: 'bout 8GB
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> p0e: found it crontab -e, then just delete the lines. chmod it and rewrite those lines.
[20:46] <Sj4m35-15> it's installed on a cf-28 toughbook.
[20:46] <faron> it's being seen but it is telling me it needs update & FF even installed ANOTHER adobe flash too
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> faron: crap solution, but did you restart
[20:46] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: that's enough for ubuntu. A fairly full install would take about 5G. You can do it in far less if need be...
[20:47] <maveas> Uhm. This might be a very stupid question but doesn't ubuntu server come with syslog installed per default?
[20:47] <serverduck> Can someone tell me where do i find an answer of why my ubuntu could not shut down? it only works manual as in button :)
[20:47] <ANTONELA> olaa
[20:47] <ANTONELA> ola
[20:47] <ANTONELA> olaaaaaaaaa
[20:48] <serverduck> ANTONELA, stop spamming!
[20:48] <Losha> maveas: it does. Is yours not working?
[20:48] <acicula> hello ANTONELA
[20:48] <maveas> How do I access the logs? :S
[20:48] <ANTONELA> hello
[20:48] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: I want to use the icewm and wdm managers.
[20:48] <ANTONELA> ablais español
[20:48] <Losha> maveas: look in /var/log...
[20:48] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: how can i accomplish this?
[20:48] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: we cant support mint here
[20:48] <ANTONELA> hello
[20:48] <serverduck> Can someone tell me where do i find an answer of why my ubuntu could not shut down? it only works manual as in button :)
[20:49] <acicula> serverduck: syslog may provide someinsights
[20:49] <iOllie> Hellooo
[20:49] <faron> yeah aeon-ltd I'm looking at  addons right now & after new version install..........I now have shockflash 10.0 r45 AND shoclflash 0.4.12
[20:49] <serverduck> acicula, thank you very much but what file in syslog more exactly?
[20:49] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: my ubuntu question is how do i change window managers?
[20:49] <faron> weird
[20:49] <acicula> serverduck: /var/log/syslog
[20:49] <arand> How do I replace compiz/metacity from tty?
[20:49] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: install the package for the window manager and select it at the login screen
[20:49] <acicula> arand: you cant replace window managers from tty
[20:50] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: sorry, but to get an answer in here you must pretend you are using Ubuntu...
[20:50] <acicula> from a pts console will work though?
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i also change the login sceens?
[20:50] <Zagrophyte> Does anyone have any experience with iwatch and/or email notifications on directory changes? iwatch seems to require an entire postfix server and I just want to send a freaking smtp email to my existing server
[20:50] <maveas> Thanks Losha
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> faron: you should just have shockwave flash 10.0 r45
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: i'm using one.
[20:50] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: gdm is responsible for starting wms/desktop environments
[20:50] <dalailamer> Do someone know if i can send popup message to someone on my wlan connected ? i want to scare my neighbour
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i also change the login manager?
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> serverduck: what WM/DE?
[20:51] <coldhost>  (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:51] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: for kdm/xdm yeah
[20:51] <jrib> !register > coldhost
[20:51] <coldhost> anyone has any idea how to register in this irc server?
[20:51] <acicula> maybe others, but best to google howto customize those things
[20:51] <serverduck> acicula, i'm a beginner user don't know exactly what to look for and some things from the log sounds chinese yet to me.
[20:51] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: i'm trying to do a complete strip down of ubuntu.
[20:51] <coldhost> thx
[20:51] <faron> yeah aeon-ltd that's what I had until after the upgrade of Firefox
[20:51] <serverduck> aeon-ltd, i didn't understand the question
[20:52] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: that's alright then (rolls eyes). Have you tried just doing sudo apt-get install icewm wdm ?
[20:52] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: thats cool, but that will require some work
[20:52] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: like a minimal system.
[20:52] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: it's easier to start from the minimal install and build up
[20:52] <acicula> serverduck: im sorry what problem were you trying to fix again?
[20:52] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: what jrib said...
[20:53] <aeon-ltd> serverduck: what WindowManager/DesktopEnvironment
[20:53] <Sj4m35-15> jrib: i already have the damn thing installed.
[20:53] <kristian_> i've created a .html file which contains text in norwegian which contains 3 "special" letters (æøå), when i open the .html file with firefox the letters won't display correctly. if i open a http://vg.no, which is a norwegian newspaper then the letters display perfect, so for some reason firefox can not display the 3 letters when i open the .html file localy. im running ubuntu 9.04 (english). does anyone know how i can solve this proble
[20:53] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: stripping beyond removing unused packages will quickly break a system, consider a distribution more suited for what you want?
[20:53] <purpleidea> hi, does someone know how to force apt to ignore an unmet dependency? in the aim of working around: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msmtp/+bug/525375
[20:53] <serverduck> acicula,  well i wanted to turn off my laptop because i had to go to work and it would't turn of...the ubuntu logo white was staying on my black screen
[20:53] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: so what?  Install takes like 15 minutes
[20:53] <acicula> serverduck: ah right
[20:53] <acicula> serverduck: does suspend or hibernate work?
[20:53] <serverduck> acicula, and i want to know why it failed to shut down and how to fix it...so in the future i will not have this problem again
[20:53] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: ok...let me rephrase the "ubuntu" question again.
[20:53] <jrib> purpleidea: use equivs or rebuild the package in question.  I didn't click your bug but make sure you know what you are doing...
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, didn't tried..only logout
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, logout works
[20:54] <acicula> serverduck: can you try?
[20:54] <purpleidea> jrib: i read about equivs, however i wasn't too sure how to get this going.
[20:54] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: how can i boot an .iso image using the grub menu?
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, shure i will be right back with an answer
[20:54] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: you can not boot an iso file directly from grub
[20:55] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: what kind of medium can i boot from the grub menu?
[20:55] <purpleidea> jrib: it seems "obsolete"
[20:55] <jrib> purpleidea: why do you want msmtp-gnome?
[20:55] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: well thats not entirely true, its possible to boot an iso fs i suppose but is never used and quite impractical
[20:55] <purpleidea> jrib: to send my root emails out, etc...
[20:55] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: to boot you need a kernel and a root file system the kernel has filesystem drivers for
[20:56] <jrib> purpleidea: so just install msmtp or ssmtp
[20:56] <acicula> and an init program for the kernel to run
[20:56] <acicula> the linux kernel anyway
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: may i recommend you have a look at www.linuxfromscratch.org
[20:56] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i boot a cd-rom from grub?
[20:56] <purpleidea> jrib: currently using ssmtp, but wanted to use msmtp-gnome for the keyring support
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: hmm, probably not
[20:56] <purpleidea> plus ssmtp is dead an unmaintaned.
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: why would you want to, you can just boot the cd straight from the bios
[20:57] <dijital1> is there a way to set a different wallpaper for each display?
[20:57] <jrib> purpleidea: if I were in your shoes, I would see what's the current status of msmtp upstream, in lucid, and then based on that information possibly decide to rebuild the source package with updated dependencies.
[20:57] <jrib> !source > purpleidea
[20:57] <dijital1> gnome seems to want to split the wallpaper choice across both windows
[20:57] <acicula> dijital1: if you have expaned your display to multiple screens then you have to make a custom wallpaper
[20:57] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: that's the problem i can't boot from bios.
[20:57] <arand> acicula: metacity DISPLAY :0 --replace &disown did it perfectly, lucky I got lynx installed :)
[20:58] <acicula> arand: cool, i did not know that  :)
[20:58] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: it's an cf-28 toughbook.
[20:58] <dijital1> acicula: ok
[20:58] <purpleidea> jrib: i do know about apt-get source, thanks :)
[20:58] <grempus> guys what is the proper way to use static DNS servers in Ubuntu 9.10 Server?
[20:59] <purpleidea> jrib: i'll check that out... i have no problem building from source, but i'm not super familiar in rebuilding and making packages...
[21:00] <Sj4m35-15> how can i do an install without the cd-rom or usb device?
[21:00] <jrib> purpleidea: that's what the link is for.  Note it's a good idea to do « dch -i » (increment the version number) and append something like "~purpleidea1" to the version string when you make your own changes to a package
[21:00] <guntbert> grempus: modify /etc/resolv.conf ?
[21:00] <grempus> it gets overwritten
[21:00] <marsje> What do I do to get a Debian server to start xfce4 at boot with automatic login?
[21:00] <jrib> marsje: #debian for debian support
[21:00] <kristian_> i've created a .html file which contains text in norwegian which contains 3 "special" letters (æøå), when i open the .html file with firefox the letters won't display correctly. if i open a http://vg.no, which is a norwegian newspaper then the letters display perfect, so for some reason firefox can not display the 3 letters when i open the .html file localy. im running ubuntu 9.04 (english). does anyone know how i can solve this proble
[21:00] <purpleidea> jrib: okay i'll check it out more... cheers
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Sj4m35-15: Only if the iso support s being booted from a file.
[21:01] <serverduck> acicula,  did you get my message?
[21:01] <marsje> What do I do to get a Ubuntu server to start xfce4 at boot with automatic login?
[21:01] <guntbert> grempus: overwritten? by what?
[21:01] <lullabud> kristian_: you need to define your doctype
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Marsje: if you wanted a desktop, why did you install server?
[21:01] <grempus> I don't know
[21:01]  * marsje is really using an Ubuntu server, butthe folks in #ubuntu-server don't respond..
[21:01] <grempus> it just gets changed back to blank after a while
[21:02] <grempus> I guess some process is doing it
[21:02] <marsje> ActionParsnip: I want a server but some server-like app requires X
[21:02] <lullabud> kristian_: er, not doctype, content type.
[21:02] <guntbert> !who | grempus
[21:02] <serverduck> acicula,  and i have a tray icon i have never seen before says something like session active not inhibited screen idle..if you see this text your display server is broken
[21:02] <lullabud> in the head, you can put something like this : <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
[21:02] <grempus> guntbert: sorry
[21:02] <marsje> ActionParsnip: it needs to run 24/7, fully automatic, no monitor connected to it
[21:02] <grempus> guntbert: I'm not sure what is overwriting it, it just happens occasionally
[21:02] <guntbert> grempus: np - only I may miss your answers :-)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Marsje: then install desktop, you haven't got anything extra by installing a desktop on the server install
[21:03] <guntbert> grempus: are you using dhcp?
[21:03] <grempus> guntbert: no, in interfaces I have it specified as static
[21:03] <ferdinando> lezioni di vita
[21:03] <epaphus> hello.......  when I edit properties in the Remote Deskptop control panel... what exact file in /etc does that edit?
[21:03] <Akkernight> how to boot up a WinXP to install as partition on my currently Ubuntu laptop
[21:03] <guntbert> grempus: strange - please ask in #ubuntu-server - or read https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/networking.html
[21:04] <grempus> Akkernight: there isn't a particularly easy way to do that since Windows doesn't recognize ext partitions
[21:04] <Akkernight> grempus: I can't even boot the WinXP cd?
[21:04] <grempus> Akkernight: you can boot it
[21:05] <yoyoned> Akkernight: maybe you could just run windows in ubuntu using virtualbox?
[21:05] <bsod1> how can I install win7 on virtualbox ose in ubuntu 9.10? I got a weird error message in Windows files extracting part..
[21:05] <grempus> Akkernight: but when you install it, it will ignore your Linux partitions
[21:05] <acicula> back again, sorry, battery decided it had done its duty
[21:05] <grempus> Akkernight: and it won't keep your boot manager
[21:05] <grempus> guntbert: ahhh thanks fixed it I think
[21:05] <Akkernight> grempus: I only need to play one game, Mortal Online, and that's it :P a VM can't handle that
[21:06] <Akkernight> grempus: won't keep GRUB 2?
[21:06] <guntbert> bsod1: try #vbox ( or ##windows) please
[21:06] <grempus> Akkernight: indeed. Although VirtualBox is adding DirectX support now
[21:06] <yoyoned> Akkernight: if you wnat to dual boot with windows, windows should be installed first
[21:06] <guntbert> grempus: care to tell me how you fixed it?
[21:06] <Akkernight> yoyoned: well, that's too late
[21:07] <grempus> guntbert: I think I had an error in my interfaces file
[21:07] <grempus> at least it didn't quite look like the one on that page you linked to guntbert
[21:07] <Blackice115> Anyone know of a chat room for linux nubs?
[21:08] <grempus> guntbert: it usually blank out after a couple hours so I'll let you know
[21:08] <jeeves_Moss> can anyone here give me sudgestions on how to repair a server that's coming up with "wrong kernel for CPU"?  I have a server sitting @ a site location with UNTRAINED staff that I need them to repair to remotley
[21:08] <Akkernight> so GRUB 2 can't boot the WinXP?
[21:08] <guntbert> grempus: ah - that would explain it ... sometimes small differences play big roles
[21:08] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: what ubuntu version?  Did it ever work?
[21:08] <lullabud> Akkernight: grub2 can boot winxp.
[21:08] <Stargaze> Akkernight, maybe this is relevant => http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=132936
[21:08] <lullabud> Akkernight: are you just trying to install windows on your computer alongside ubuntu?
[21:08] <grempus> guntbert: thanks! now I can ping google lol
[21:08] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Is it a 32 bit machine?
[21:09] <guntbert> grempus: np - have fun :)
[21:09] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, I think it's 8.1, and yes, it was working fine untill some one "rebooted" it.  It's a 23 bit system running a celeron M CPU
[21:09] <melodie_> how do you get a grub legacy on ubuntu actually ? (let's say Jaunty)
[21:09] <Akkernight> lullabud: yes
[21:09] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:09] <piersi_7> ola
[21:09] <kristian_> lullabud: thanks i will give it a shot, didn't think about that. ;-)
[21:09] <Jordan_U> melodie_: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[21:09] <marreco> teste
[21:09] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: is that the actual message verbatim?
[21:09] <lullabud> Akkernight: use gparted to resize your existing partitions, leave a big blanks space.
[21:09] <piersi_7> hello
[21:09] <Linuxero_Novato2> buenas noches a todos
[21:09] <melodie_> Jordan_U, trial-boot
[21:09] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, we've tried booting from a live CD and trying to reinstall the new kernel, but accorsding to the staff, it dosn't work.  So, I need a solid plan on how to give them a "step by step" answer
[21:09] <piersi_7> buenas noches
[21:10] <lullabud> boot winxp cd, create a partition in the blank space, install
[21:10] <melodie_> I don't try I did it but I got rid of grub on ubuntu
[21:10] <Stargaze> !es| Linuxero_Novato2
[21:10] <jeeves_Moss> jreb_, one sec, I'll get thier e-mail
[21:10] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: did you tell them to check if older kernels are available at the grub prompt?
[21:10] <Linuxero_Novato2> thanks
[21:10] <melodie_> Jordan_U, I would have liked to have grub 1 on the Ubuntu partition to make a nice chainloader, additionnally I would have liked  it with a grub splash
[21:11] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, yes, I tried to get them to do that, and they said the grub menu dosn't come up.  (personally, I think thats a "load" of BS)
[21:11] <Elchgeweih1980> hallo zusammen
[21:11] <Jordan_U> melodie_: Why grub legacy specifically?
[21:11] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: even pressing ESCAPE?
[21:11] <Only`speak`engli> http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=HzkN win free laptop or iphone!
[21:11] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Tell them to hold shift during boot.
[21:11] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, apparently.  one sec, and I'll pastebin the e-mail
[21:11] <lullabud> kristian_: that should do the trick.  i just did a bunch of chinese, korean and japanese php code and that worked for all of what i was doing.
[21:12] <jrib> Jordan_U: if it's 8.10, it's using older grub
[21:12] <Akkernight> lullabud: I have a ext4 partition and a extended... What should I do?
[21:12] <seanbrystone> Are there any good OCR programs for Ubuntu? Ive tried gocr-tk , ocrad, Tesseract OCR, but the text is all mangled up
[21:12] <Jordan_U> jrib: Ahh, missed that it was 8.10.
[21:12] <melodie_> Jordan_U, exactly
[21:12] <jrib> Jordan_U: though he said "think", so that may not be a bad thing to try
[21:12] <lullabud> Akkernight: if there's no empty space, just resize down your ext4 partition.  leave about 20+gb for windows.
[21:12] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:12] <rlopez12> hello, I'm looking for a better photo manager than F-Spot, anyone?
[21:12] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:12] <Jordan_U> 13:03 < Akkernight> how to boot up a WinXP to install as partition on my currently Ubuntu laptop
[21:13] <melodie_> rlopez12, so do I
[21:13] <ekce> rlopez12, picasa is worth a try
[21:13] <seanbrystone> rlopez12, have you tried Picasa? (not sure if its in the repos though)
[21:13] <lullabud> rlopez12: doesn't picasa have a native app in linux that's pretty good?
[21:13] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:13] <ekce> haha :D
[21:13] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: what happens if they use an i386 disk?
[21:13] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, apparently, they had tried using a 32bit disk and tried to recover the system
[21:13] <Akkernight> lullabud: I can't just resize... It won't let me and doesn't that mean I'd loose data
[21:14] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: also "bantu" doesn't insipre me with great confidence
[21:14] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, lol, neither do I, but I kinda need this box up and running.
[21:14] <lullabud> Akkernight: yeah, if it's not letting you resize then you can't do it from where you're at without losing data.  you may have to boot to the ubuntu livecd so that the partitions aren't mounted.
[21:14] <kristian_> lullabud: thanks it worked! :-)
[21:14] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, I was in the middle of doing a remote rsync of ~160Gb of data over the past month
[21:14] <lullabud> Akkernight: you can't resize mounted partitions, and if gparted is running from the partition you're resizing it won't let you umount that
[21:15] <lullabud> kristian_: awesome :)
[21:15] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: The default download for Ubuntu server is 64 bit give them a direct link to the correct iso.
[21:15] <rlopez12> ekce: I've tried it, but it's just the windows version using wine.
[21:15] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I know this is a 32bit system (it's actully the manager's old laptop, and it's a celeron-M CPU)
[21:15] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: "kernal?"
[21:16] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Yes, but they downloaded the wrong "bantu" iso.
[21:16] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, lol, I know, I know.  they're accountants, not IT people
[21:16] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: So give them a direct link to the 32 bit version.
[21:17] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, do you have a link to the correct ISO?  and once they've got that, what are the steps to get her running on the right kernel?
[21:17] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: then they should not be installing the system. go on-site.
[21:17] <acicula> celeron-M, as in the stripped version of a dotham mobile ?
[21:17] <seanbrystone> Are there any good OCR programs for Ubuntu? Ive tried gocr-tk , ocrad, Tesseract OCR, but the text is all mangled up
[21:17] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, it's a laptop.  Don't ask.  their old DL380G1 died, and I was scrambling for parts
[21:17] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think it's possible that the wrong kernel is installed now that I think of it...
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I had found a "howto" for repair,
[21:18] <jrib> seanbrystone: that's all I know of
[21:18] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: i think the 20th century just called and are demanding their hardware back :)
[21:18] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: if it does over 800 it should work ok, but does it have enough mem still?
[21:18] <llutz> seanbrystone: vuescan has ocr-feature, not sure how good it is
[21:18] <seanbrystone> jrib, ok well maybe it's just a setting that I need to poke around in, thanks.
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, I've got the old DL380G1 propping up the LCD screen on the end of my bench @ the shop
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, the laptop that's there right now is a 1.6 with 4Gb of RAM
[21:18] <preposteruss> you want you the partition that will be mounted as / to be primary, and not logical correct?
[21:19] <seanbrystone> llutz its not in the repos ill see if theres a .deb or something thanks :)
[21:19] <llutz> seanbrystone: non free soft, hamrick.com
[21:19] <seanbrystone> k thanks
[21:19] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: oh thats not a dotham oldie then, thats not even halfbad
[21:19] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, and the DL380G1 is a dual 950Mhz, 4gb of RAM, and 4x36.6Gb 15K SCSI disks
[21:19] <lullabud> seanbrystone: evernote OCR's your pictures that you add to it...
[21:19] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't see how they could possibly install a 64 bit kernel. Can you have them boot *without any CD in the drive at all* and take a picture of the error message?
[21:20] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: that celeron may just as well run a 64bit kernel
[21:20] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If you really don't trust them tell them to have the tray open and visable in the picture :)
[21:20] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I know it's a 32bit box.
[21:20] <acicula> the dual 950Mhz or the celron?
[21:20] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, lol, or just fly to Traverse city Michigan and do it myself!
[21:21] <jeeves_Moss> the one that's hooped and needs to be up is the celeron, and I KNOW it's a 32bit install!
[21:21] <chrispitzer> I look at localhost:8000 a lot as I develop sites on my ubuntu machine.  I want to access subdomains of localhost now... and I just want all subdomains to work - i don't want to have to enter records for **every** subdomain
[21:21] <seanbrystone> lullabud, ok ill try evernote too, i already have an account with them too :)
[21:21] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: pretty sure the proc can handle 64bit though
[21:21] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I think the real error when booting from the hard drive has nothing to do with 32 vs 64 bit. I think they are just confusing the message from the liveCD with the one from the hard drive.
[21:21] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: what are you trying to do anyway?
[21:22] <red> does anyone know if using NFS Network shares work over internet?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, the "error msg" is what comes up after tey rebooted it (for some strange reason concidering it had been running fine for the past 2 years)
[21:22] <red> or just locally?
[21:22] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: whats the error?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I'm trying to rescue the system
[21:22] <andai> I installed xubuntu on an external USB hdd. I can boot it from my internal drive's grub but its own grub won't load. How do I reinstall it?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:22] <acicula> red: they work over the internet just fine
[21:22] <acicula> red: its not recommended or safe however
[21:23] <joaojeronimo> Hi guys, does anyone of you know tomcat's location in Ubuntu Server 9.10 ? Is it /usr/share/tomcat6 ?
[21:23] <PFA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 <-- i'm trying to follow this guide to set up a home network between my laptop and a windows machine. however, the two machines are on the same router so they share the same IP address. is that a problem? also, will this configuration share things through the router (local intranet) instead of the internet? the purpose of this connection is supposed to be to send files between the two machines without using up
[21:23] <PFA>  our bandwidth (we have a bandwidth cap) so it needs to go over the router...
[21:23] <acicula> joaojeronimo: its spread across several locations, use dpkg-query -S or -L <packagename> to find out
[21:23] <joaojeronimo> thanks acicula :)
[21:23] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think that it's worth troubleshooting further untill you see a picture of the laptop with its CD tray open and the *real* error on the screen.
[21:24] <richthegeek> !grub | andai
[21:24] <acicula> PFA local network traffic stays local so doesnt add
[21:24] <richthegeek> !grub2 | andai
[21:24] <PFA> acicula: wht?
[21:24] <PFA> what*
[21:24] <andai> ty
[21:24] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, can't I just get them to boot from a 32bit live CD, replace the kernel with the proper "detected" one (preferably from the live on-line repo, then get them to reboot it?
[21:24] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: imnottechsupport, whats the hardware error :P
[21:25] <yoyoned> PFA: the two machines shouldn't have the same ip.  if you are using a internet tool to check your ip it will show the ip if the router, not the machine]
[21:25] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I think it's an "I" "D" ten "t" error
[21:25] <joaojeronimo> has anyone installed Hamachi in Ubuntu Server successfully ? I installed it and it runs fine, no errors... but it logs out almost every 5 minutes...
[21:25] <PFA> yoyoned: so how do i find out my computer's IP? and again, will this share traffic through the router :T
[21:25] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think the problem is with the kernel at all frankly, and I want to see the current state of things before they do who knows what in /boot
[21:25] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: hehe
[21:26] <PFA> uh not traffic, files, sorry
[21:26] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, well, my options are limited.  you know how accountants are.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: You can't get them to take one picture with the CD tray open?
[21:26] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:26] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I think it would clear things up a *lot*
[21:27] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I can't even get them to rotate the damn 2.5" USB backup drive!
[21:27] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: without the error when booting from the hd there is really no telling what is wrong
[21:27] <guntbert> PFA: on your windows machine type in the commandline: ipconfig and on the ubuntu machine you type ifconfig
[21:27] <aurorixi> ola
[21:27] <yoyoned> PFA: the trafic will not go through the router.  I don't have a clue how to check the IP address on windos.  in ubuntu right click on network manager and select connection information
[21:27] <aurorixi> hello
[21:27] <komputes> How can I get gnome to arrange desktop icons on the right side instead of the left side?
[21:27] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I know there is nothing in the drive or plugged into it.  this error the bean counter is reporting is actully the error on the screen
[21:28] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: How do you know there is nothing in the CDROM drive?
[21:28] <xangua> !hi | aurorixi
[21:28] <jeeves_Moss> they're not that stupid, and I asked them
[21:28] <aurorixi> hi
[21:28] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: then somehow it switched to 64bit ?
[21:29] <seanbrystone> lullabud, I tried Evernote for the OCR but im not seeing a setting for it. What do i do?
[21:29] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I have no idea.  as I said, I'm not impressed they friggen rebooted it
[21:29] <ash30> Hi everybody! I have a problem with some usb device recognition (Acer Aspire laptop) in 9.10, which slows down the whole system a lot. Where should I ask for help? What to do?
[21:29] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: im not sure 32bit ubuntu will even install a 64bit kernel if you ask it too
[21:29] <acicula> someones been doing something, heh
[21:30] <winXPuser> how do I install Gnome in Kubuntu?
[21:30] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, well, if we reinstall a 32bit kernel, it won't break anything, right?
[21:30] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: well not likely no
[21:30] <xangua> winXPuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <guntbert> winXPuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:30] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, well, if it gets the damn system off the ground, and I can shell into it, then I'm FURTHER ahead than I am now, correct?
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: yes
[21:31] <alessandro_> ciaoooooooooooooooo
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: cram in a bootcd and chroot into the system and run some updates and fix the kernel?
[21:31] <seanbrystone> !it | alessandro_
[21:31] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, ok, so, I'll get them to d-load/burn the i686x32 disk, then what's the next step once it boots?
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: chrooting into the system
[21:31] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If port forewarding is already setup I say have them boot the liveCD, run "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and do the rest yourself.
[21:31] <alessandro_> list
[21:31] <acicula> well mount the essentials first
[21:32] <acicula> yeah Jordan_U 's idea is even better
[21:32] <guntbert> !list | alessandro_
[21:32] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:32] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, true, I just need "remote control" over the box.  Everything as far as ports, etc are set up.
[21:32] <alessandro_> !list
[21:32] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I can also make you a GRUB2 boot CD that will list all of the installed kernels with a menu to choose between them.
[21:32] <Brandon__> does any Ubuntu Greek chat exists?
[21:32] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I forget, how do I get them into shell again from the boot?
[21:33] <serverduck> My hibernate suspend and shutdown don't work...what do i do now?:D
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !terminal | jeeves_Moss
[21:33] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: remember to have them set a password on the ubuntu? user
[21:33] <acicula> otherwise i dont think you can ssh in
[21:33] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Give them a liveCD image, not the server install. ( the server install is harder to get to a terminal from and easier to acidentily do something wrong )
[21:33] <ash30> Guys, anybody can help me here?
[21:33] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I know how to do it through the GUI, I was thinking straight from boot to shell without them "playing" in the GUI
[21:33] <acicula> !ask | ash30
[21:33] <richthegeek> serverduck: don't work? how odd... to shut down, open a terminal or press Ctrl+F2 and type "shutdown 0"
[21:34] <winXPuser> guntbert, why doesn't this command have "Gnome" in it?
[21:34] <acicula> serverduck: its probably whats blocking the shutdown/hibernate process
[21:34] <serverduck> richthegeek, yes sometimes shutdown works but I just hibernated and it gives me a funny error tray icon in the taskbar
[21:34] <guntbert> winXPuser: I don't know but type (here) /msg ubottu gnome to get the command
[21:34] <richthegeek> serverduck: how old is your machine?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: There is no easy way, single user mode won't get you networking for instance.
[21:35] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, ok, here's hoping the bean counters can follow instructions.
[21:35] <serverduck> richthegeek, dell just bought it 2009
[21:35] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, if I can get in, then I can play
[21:35] <serverduck> it points me to this link http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[21:35] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: gl :)
[21:35] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Would you like a grub iso that will list all installed kernels?
[21:35] <andai> is there any way to install from within an install? I know most packages needed for the install are removed after the install.
[21:35] <serverduck> And it sais that my display server is broken.
[21:35] <richthegeek> serverduck: ok... in the BIOS there should be an S1/S3 switch in suspend type
[21:35] <serverduck> What is this?
[21:35] <andai> (to another drive obv)
[21:35] <ash30> My Acer Aspire 5670 laptop has some problem with recognizing some usb device (probably a webcam?) dmesg says it probes it, but in vain. It keeps cycling, and slows down everything. What should I do?
[21:35] <richthegeek> go for the highest number (or any combo of numbers)
[21:36] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, it did have that @ one point.  We had an intern working here who I think hooped it.  I remember that I had to do a LOT of package repairs (the kid was found of installing from source)
[21:36] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I'm the maintainer of super grub2 disk so I already have it pretty much setup ( and can make it so there are no other options )
[21:36] <acicula> heh, <3 source
[21:37] <serverduck> richthegeek, the link that the tray icon provides is not very helpfull for me since i can not do anything to repair my gnome power manager..i'm not an advanced user
[21:37] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, lol, once I'm done with this office in Michigan, they won't have a server sitting there!  it'll be in my server room ~ 20' from my office.
[21:37] <kothz> Quick question: installed ubuntu netbook remix & CCSM, upped display effects, enabled desktop cube & rotate cube & wallpapers, upped # of desktops in general, added images under wallpapers... no background images appear apart from the default brown.  Any ideas?  ('show desktop' was already deselected under gconf>apps>nautilus)
[21:38] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, all I know is that if you give a bean counter a laptop, they'll have it hooped in ~2 weeks.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I meant that it would be used as a solution for this problem that is easy on their end.
[21:38] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, so, I'm thinking everything will be through term services on a Win 2K8 RDP farm
[21:39] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I would love a simple download/burn/reboot from disk/auto fix, but I don't think that's going to happen
[21:39] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If it's really a kernel problem then booting an older kernel should work.
[21:39] <mezquitale> anyone knows if it's possible to use partimage to restore an image from a network ?
[21:40] <mnaines> If I set up a Linux box as a gateway and router, would PowerMac PC and MacBook Pro computers have issues?
[21:40] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, lol, if they come back with "I can't boot to the CD", we'll try that next
[21:40] <llutz> mnaines: no
[21:40] <Bushido> it's probably better to try and use the livecd PING to do a network image
[21:40] <grendal_prime> gerrrrr i need to find out if its possible to run     cipher AES-256-CBC AND DES-CBC simultaneously on openvpn
[21:41] <thiagovfar> Guys, I have a problem I wish to investigate with you
[21:41] <guntbert> !ask | thiagovfar
[21:41] <mnaines> llutz, ok...Because Macintosh seems to have issues with the DLink and Linksys routers I use on the network, so the Macintosh computers need their own separate Apple AirPort Extreme router to connect to the internet
[21:41] <mezquitale> mnaines, your MAC and PC machines should be able to get an IP, it should work
[21:41] <ash30> Anybody knows how to "unplug" not working hardware so that system would stop probing it all the time?
[21:42] <marreco> hi everyone
[21:42] <Bushido> ash30: did sudo rmmod "mod name" not work?
[21:42] <llutz> mnaines: broken tcp/ip on macs? stylish crap, blame apple :)
[21:42] <ash30> haven't tried yet, I'm on it
[21:42] <mnaines> llutz, would I have that issue if I use a Linux box as a gateway router?
[21:42] <Bushido> ash30: what are you trying to stop probing? that will give me an idea of the module
[21:43] <ash30> oops, how do I know the "mod name"?
[21:43] <llutz> mnaines: you shouldn't
[21:43] <ash30> its smth using ehci, probably an integral laptop webcam
[21:43] <Bushido> ash30: tell me the hardware, and I'll get that for you. also, what is the problem?
[21:43] <Coppered> is there a help room for Thunderbird?
[21:43] <mnaines> llutz, could it be due to the "autosensing" feature on the LAN ports?
[21:43] <Bushido> also, removing ehci_hcd is an INCREDIBLY bad idea
[21:44] <kothz> (especially if you hit enter after the rmmod command...) :)
[21:44] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I need to leave, if you decide to use it it's here: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/list_kernels_bootcd.iso
[21:44] <thiagovfar> I am trying to run a Left 4 Dead 2 dedicated server, which runs nicely, if i use a terminal. The problem is when i use terminal multiplexers, for remote access, like TMUX SCREEN or even DTACH: It's respose time is increased by ~40 seconds. Does anyone has any ideia of what is the cause of it?
[21:44] <ash30> it's acer aspire 5670, the problem it cycles endlessly through probing, turning on and off that unrecognized device, slowing down the system
[21:44] <Bushido> kothz:amen
[21:44] <llutz> mnaines: i don't know, sorry
[21:44] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: It won't work if /boot is on a separate partition.
[21:44] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, thanks.  I'll keep it for later
[21:44] <kothz> Quick question: installed ubuntu netbook remix & CCSM, upped display effects, enabled desktop cube & rotate cube & wallpapers, upped # of desktops in general, added images under wallpapers... no background images appear apart from the default brown.  Any ideas?  ('show desktop' was already deselected under gconf>apps>nautilus)
[21:45] <Bushido> not exactly sure how to help, removing ehci removes all usb 2.0 support
[21:45] <ash30> damn, that won't help, I rely heavily on usb2.0
[21:46] <rafithaa> OOlaa
[21:46] <rafithaa> ai alguien
[21:46] <seanbrystone> how bout #ubuntu-es laaaa?
[21:46] <rafithaa> q pasa
[21:46] <rafithaa> oye qien aii ai
[21:47] <rafithaa> ablar
[21:47] <m2cm2c> hi guys, how do I run a desktop launcher ".desktop" file from the terminal ?
[21:47] <rafithaa> sois english
[21:47] <seanbrystone> rafithaa, they wont let me play with the trolls here, so ill just ignore that ;)
[21:47] <seanbrystone> lol
[21:49] <apostacy> Hello linix ubernoob needing help installing ubuntu
[21:49] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If it just goes to a "grub>" prompt then it didn't find any kernels at all ( with more time I could have it print an error message instead but I don't think it's likely that no kernels will be found )
[21:49] <m2cm2c> anyone knows how to run a desktop launcher ".desktop" file from the terminal ?
[21:49] <guntbert> !ask | apostacy
[21:49] <apostacy> can anyone suggest best web forum for help installing on dell desktop with massive crash each time I try to boot
[21:49] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, ok, thanks.  I'll see what he comes back with later.  I think they're out playing golf (or with each other) right now
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> m2cm2c, cat the .desktop file and look for the line "Exec=x" that is the command it would run
[21:51] <Brandon__> hey m2cm2c install mc "sudo apt-get install mc" then you can get into .desktop
[21:51] <m2cm2c> ZykoticK9, I know the exec command, I want to start a launcher from the terminal
[21:51] <ash30> is there a specific channel for hardware problems here around, please?
[21:52] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to restore an image crated by partimage?
[21:52] <m2cm2c> Brandon__, I'll look that up , thanks
[21:52] <mneptok> m2cm2c: cat the .desktop file and see what the actual path to the app is
[21:53] <ash30>  is there a specific channel for hardware problems here around, please?
[21:53] <seanbrystone> whats wrong with this channel? :)
[21:53] <ash30> nobody could answer my question here
[21:53] <mezquitale> he wants you to answer his question in a way that he likes it LoL
[21:53] <apostacy> my ubuntu 9.1 hangs on initial splashscreen after I login for 1st time .. tried rebooting in recovery mode to no avail .. using recent low end dell desktop .. ideas?
[21:54] <cheako> Hello, My CD/DBD/Blu-Ray trays(2) auto-close after eject.  I've told hal to not pool, but this is still plaguing me.
[21:54] <ash30> nope, I just didn't receive any solution yet
[21:54] <cheako> It's as though something is reading the drive all the time.
[21:55] <seanbrystone> ash30, it took me like 10 times before someone answered me, just repeat your question like every 5-10 minutes :)
[21:55] <Steil> is there anyway to turn off home directory encryption?
[21:55] <Fidoxd> hi all!
[21:55] <ash30> ok, thanx
[21:55] <barbarella> apostacy:can you give more hardware specifications?
[21:56] <kothz> Quick question: installed ubuntu netbook remix & CCSM, upped display effects, enabled desktop cube & rotate cube & wallpapers, upped # of desktops in general, added images under wallpapers... no background images appear apart from the default brown.  Any ideas?  ('show desktop' was already deselected under gconf>apps>nautilus)
[21:56] <warriorforgod> Its ash30 What is your question?
[21:56] <kothz> (For that matter, it doesn't work with desktop wall either (vs cube))
[21:57] <ash30> acer aspire 5670 laptop has a problem with some device using ehci, it constantly probes it, but no result. Cycling endlessly, it slows down the system
[21:57] <cheako> kothz: If it's any help that stuff works here.
[21:57] <kothz> Thanks :)
[21:57] <apostacy> dell inspiron 530, Pentium D 2.5GHz, 4Gb RAM,  intel 82801 chipset and bus
[21:57] <cheako> ash30: That sounds like my problem.
[21:58] <kothz> It's an out-of-the-box install, and I've done everything I'm used to doing on normal Ubunut :)
[21:58] <kothz> er Ubuntu*
[21:58] <ash30> but yours is hdd, mine is likely an integral webcam
[21:58] <brando753> guys im quite stumped here.... I have a parallel to usb converter which Works Fine in windows, Works Fine in Ubuntu 9.4 but Isnt even found in lsusb on Ubuntu 9.10 .... Any help please
[21:58] <barbarella> Steil:hint...http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134121
[21:58] <gortfield> wtf ??
[21:59] <red> Anyone familiar with settings the NFS server to start up at boot?
[21:59] <red> I can only find guides to automaticly mount stuff that nfs server is sharing on boot
[21:59] <cheako> while lsof /dev/hdc; do lsof /dev/hdc; done 2>/dev/null | grep -ve 7028 -e ^COMMAND; # Yields no results, how can that be?
[22:00] <brando753> ...
[22:00] <Zenker> i would like to change some of the icons for a few progs in the applications menu bc i have my own icons that i created but i cannot seem to use them, i have even tried png's and they wont work either, what do i need 2 do?
[22:00] <cheako> hmm, hald-addo and lvm poped up.
[22:00] <llutz> red: sudo update-rc.d nfs-kernel-server defaults
[22:01] <barbarella> apostacy:do you have the problem with live cd/dvd/usb...etc?
[22:01] <Fidoxd> hi to all :)
[22:01] <barbarella> Fidoxd:hi
[22:02] <Zenker> hello fidoxc
[22:02] <Bushido> has anybody gotten ubuntu to install to a poweredge 2550?
[22:02] <Stargaze> nice nick barbarella :)
[22:02] <apostacy> no install by dvdrom seemed to work fine, just first reboot always hang, i thought it was looking for drivers or something (as HD is goes intermittently) but left it 10+ hours and still hang
[22:03] <cheako> ash30: Adding filter = [ "r/hdc/", "r/hdc/", ...; # to /etc/lvm/lvm.conf may solve part of my problem.
[22:03] <cheako> hmm hdc, hdd
[22:03] <olvap> join #mysql
[22:03] <okiedave> Anyone know of a USB wireless N adapter that will work with 9.10 Karmic?
[22:04] <ash30> cheako I have no problem with the hard drive, its usb 2.0 that's a real mess here
[22:04] <trism> Zenker: edit menus/select a menu item, click properties, click the icon, choose a new folder to look for the icon, select the icon, seems to work for me (short of creating a new icon theme, which is a bit more work)
[22:04] <barbarella> Bushido:what is the problem, or just curious
[22:05] <mezquitale> ash30,  how are you having a problem with USB 2.0 on ubuntu?!?
[22:05] <Zenker> trism i tried that and the icons do not show up in the file browser, they do for a desktop icon
[22:05] <teage> is there a channel specific to programming?
[22:05] <mezquitale> teage, there's a lot of them, go and ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <barbarella> Stargaze:and sexy she is, i'm not:~(
[22:06] <ash30> simple. I got acer aspire 5670 laptop constantly probing some ehci and unrecognizing the hardware there (probably an integral webcam)
[22:06] <trism> Zenker: the icons won't show up in the file browser, you need to select the folder they are in, and then an icon selection screen will come up
[22:06] <apostacy> barbarella: should I try reinstall via USB?
[22:06] <brando753>   anyone
[22:06] <linusoleander> I'm getting this strange error message when trying to install netatalk:
[22:06] <linusoleander> update-rc.d: warning: netatalk stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)
[22:06] <mezquitale> !anyone| brando753
[22:06] <teage> mezquitale: i would, sept, i do not see a (ubuntu off topic) in my list of networks.
[22:06] <linusoleander> Someone know why?
[22:07] <mezquitale> teage, "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[22:07] <barbarella> apostacy:it depends if it booted ok from the live cd/dvd/usb
[22:07] <Zenker> trism that is what i am doing, even the blender icons do not show up (when i navigate to the blender 2.49 folder i created) is it because they are not on a root location?
[22:07] <teage> mezquitale, thank you
[22:07] <trism> Zenker: no, I just tested with custom icons I have in my home directory and it works fine
[22:07] <brando753>  mezquitale: I have already asked my queastion a long while ago and days past with no response ...
[22:08] <ash30> ubottu how do I "unplug" that strange device on ehci which slows down my system by constant probing?
[22:08] <ash30> damn
[22:08] <norbert> hi guys, i just downloaded and burned ubuntu on a cd
[22:08] <Zenker> hmm, tats so strange, u have ubuntu 9.10 64bit installed on its own partition like me?
[22:08] <apostacy> will try to bot from USB, thx
[22:08] <mezquitale> !patience | brando753
[22:08] <norbert> it boots, but when any time i give install ubuntu it restarts
[22:08] <norbert> why?
[22:08] <brando753>  mezquitale: I have been here for 5 days
[22:09] <trism> Zenker: not 64bit but otherwise the same
[22:09] <mezquitale> brando753, try the forum, if no one answers in the forum - then file a bug report
[22:09] <kothz> I can't see questions that happened before I logged in :) So, ask again... go to the forums...
[22:09] <kothz> er, what he said
[22:10] <barbarella> apostacy:ok
[22:10] <ash30> kothz how do I unplug some not working device? Constant probing of it slows down the system.
[22:11] <norbert> hi guys, i just downloaded and burned ubuntu on a cd
[22:11] <norbert> it boots, but when any time i give install ubuntu it restarts
[22:11] <norbert> why?
[22:11] <kothz> ash30: is it being associated with a driver?
[22:11] <ash30> norbert did you check disk integrity?
[22:11] <Zenker> trism maybe im missing something, heres what i am doint, i am r-clickin on the application button. then clicking on edit menus, then i navigate to where say blender is, clicking on blender then on properties, then on the icon pic thats showin, navigating to the blender folder wthe icons (i even double checked to make sure theyre there) and it shows nothing
[22:12] <ash30> kothz I don't know. It's sitting on ehci, so it's probably an integral webcam
[22:12] <nigelnigel> in my vlc player i try to save a playlist to my desktop or my home folder, but after i click save nothing is saved
[22:12] <Stargaze> how can I see if my CPU is 32 or 64 bit
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> Stargaze, "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[22:12] <kothz> Integrated, maybe.  Integral?  Never. :) Webcams aren't that important. :)
[22:13] <longcat> Hello.  Does anybody know why when I run vncserver and connect to it, the wrong letters are used when I type?
[22:13] <Zenker> trism but if i create a launcher on the desktop the icons show just fine
[22:13] <trism> Zenker: very odd, I am doing the exact same thing
[22:13] <barbarella> ash30>:and the device is?! Do  you have more information about this device you're talking about?
[22:14] <ash30> kothz integral, of course. Its constant probing slows down the system a lot, so I'd like to "unplug" it somehow
[22:14] <ash30> barbarella where do I get info to identify the device?
[22:14] <norbert> is that a problem if i try to boot the install in dual display mode?
[22:14] <Stargaze> using cat /proc/cpuinfo, what line is important to see if my PC is 32 or 64 bit?
[22:15] <barbarella> ash30:oeps...sory didn't read
[22:15] <kothz> How do you know that ehci is trying to grab it?
[22:15] <kothz> (sorry, to ash30)
[22:15] <barbarella> ash30:a webcam is it?
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> Stargaze, start with the "model name" then you can google if it's 64 or not, what is the model name?
[22:15] <OerHeks> brando753, maybe this page is any help > see the parallel-part > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[22:15] <ash30> kothz: used dmesg and it's logged
[22:15] <nigelnigel> Stargaze there is prob an easier way but type this link in firefox to find if your comp is 32 or 64 whichever google selects is your cpu
[22:16] <nigelnigel> Stargate http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> nigelnigel, if you install 32bit Ubuntu on a 64bit cpu that isn't going to help
[22:16] <ash30> barbarella I'm not sure, but what else could... don't know
[22:16] <trism> Zenker: did you create the menu entry yourself? if so it will probably be in ~/.local/share/applications named alacarte-something-something.desktop, and you could try editing that file directly to set the Icon location to an absolute path
[22:16] <Zenker> trism yes
[22:16] <barbarella> ash30:lsusb -vv
[22:16] <acicula> ZykoticK9: its not going to hurt much either
[22:17] <ash30> barbarella sure, I'm on it
[22:17] <cheako> How can I get hald-addon-stor to leave /dev/hd{c,d} alone?
[22:17] <barbarella> ash30:if it goes to fast try lsusb -vv |more
[22:17] <Zenker> trism i installed blender 2.49 b by extracting it to a folder and tested it with the ./ command
[22:17] <llutz> nigelnigel: that site reads user-agent info of the running system, not the cpu-status
[22:17] <devdz> the boot loader of ubuntu gives you usualy 10 seconds to choose which OS you wana start with .. how can I make this timing much longer ?
[22:18] <Zenker> i also cannot change the icon if i pin it to the panel
[22:18] <ubuntu_> name
[22:18] <nigelnigel> my vlc player for linux isnt saving my playlists when i try to
[22:18] <awardedzero> hello room
[22:18] <Stargaze> nice apparently /me has a 64 bit PC :)
[22:18] <Zenker> awardedzero hi
[22:19] <barbarella> nigelnigel:security issues?
[22:19] <awardedzero> i installed java but websites say i dont have it installed how do i remedy this
[22:19] <nigelnigel> barbarella i dont know im new to linux
[22:19] <cheako> Now I understand why the performance of all my block devices is always so low.  It's all these daemons hammering them all the time.
[22:19] <xangua> awardedzero: do you installed jre plugin¿¿
[22:20] <ash30> barbarella that's a lot of stuff in lsusb output, what should I look at specifically?
[22:20] <nigelnigel> barbarella but when i click save it seems to be approved then i check and no playlist has been saved
[22:20] <Brandon__> Norbert?
[22:20] <awardedzero> go to plug ins not there
[22:20] <Sylphid|netbook> devdz, change "GRUB_TIMEOUT=" in /etc/default/grub and run 'update-grub' afterwards
[22:21] <nigelnigel> anyone else had problems saving playlists with vlc on linux
[22:22] <Brandon__> Norbert before you install Ubuntu you need to fix partitions
[22:22] <awardedzero> when web site tells me in need to install plug ins it takes me to the plug ins i need to download it tells me that i already have them
[22:22] <Sylphid|netbook> awardedzero, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[22:23] <awardedzero> will try
[22:23] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to install grub to boot up windows only?
[22:23] <barbarella> ash30:depends on the device you are looking for, try to unplug everything and enable one by one, see what happens
[22:23] <junaid> hi can someone help me? i have a problem
[22:23] <EPAstor> mezquitale: So you want grub installed, but not linux?
[22:23] <devdz> Sylphid|netbook, Thank you!
[22:24] <nigelnigel> junaid we are all users like yourself just type your answer in is your best bet
[22:24] <mezquitale> EPAstor,  I'll install ubuntu later, right now I restored my windows partition to a different drive and want to boot up to windows
[22:24] <barbarella> nigelnigel:try to look at the vlc-log and see what is going wrong
[22:25] <Brandon__> use Grub to boot into windows
[22:25] <cheako> How can I tell what applications are using devkit-disks-daemon over dbus?
[22:25] <ash30> barbarella but it's a laptop, there sit a lot of stuff on usb which cannot be unplugged. lsusb lists not only mouse and keyboard, but also bluetooth module, WiFi, webcam, empty hosts etc.
[22:25] <junaid> my problem is that when watch anything on youtube using flash the video is choppy
[22:25] <junaid> and there is lag in it
[22:26] <junaid> i have a decent computer so i think it shudnt happen
[22:26] <junaid> does anyone kno how i can fix this problem
[22:26] <EPAstor> mezquitale: makes sense. Sorry, was just curious. Afraid I don't know how to install grub without a linux partition around... I believe it needs a /boot partition it can read, though I could be wrong.
[22:27] <barbarella> ash30:so there is nothing on the usb ports, laptop hase some i think
[22:27] <EPAstor> junaid: Bad news - Adobe (the people who make Flash) do a notoriously bad job of making their Linux version. Flash on Linux is always touchy. Good news - there are options. First, how did you install flash?
[22:27] <ash30> mezquitale: using external harddrive or usb install won't help that?
[22:27] <cheako> Killing hald-addon-stor* and devkit-disks-da* stopped every thing from pooling my Optical Drives...  This made them fast.
[22:27] <nigelnigel> barbarella i have no clue how to read a log im new to linux and programing
[22:27] <junaid> what i did was installed multiverse
[22:28] <junaid> and i got flash with it
[22:28] <nigelnigel> barbarella i guess my best bet is to just reinstall in with the synaptic manager
[22:28] <Zenker> trism dang, how do i access root folders again?
[22:28] <junaid> i tried installing it directly from fire fox too but same problem
[22:28] <ash30> barbarella: so, now what? I'm confused.
[22:28] <barbarella> nigelnigel:can you save it in /tmp and see what happens?
[22:28] <EPAstor> junaid: Sure. So - you did this through Synaptic, or through Add/Remove, or through the Software Center?
[22:28] <nigelnigel> barbarella save the playlist in tmp?
[22:29] <junaid> i did it through software centre
[22:29] <atila1> hey guys. I need some help to do my sound card run. anyone can help me?
[22:29] <barbarella> nigelnigel:/tmp yes
[22:29] <nigelnigel> barbarella k one sec thanks
[22:29] <seanbrystone> Sorry bout all the joins/parts, i was in #freenode they were helping me find a server for my location :)
[22:29] <EPAstor> junaid: There are three options in Software Centre - Adobe, Swfdec, and Gnash. Do you know which?
[22:29] <junaid> i used adobe
[22:30] <red> Heya, anyone got tips for this: I made a samba share folder, and added two symlinks there (different folders I want to appear at the share)
[22:30] <red> now i can see the share perfectly from another pc, but the added symlink folders dont appear and if i manually type them into adress row it says access denied
[22:30] <red> so its there but no rights
[22:30] <norbert> guys, i am a web developer, do you recommend me to get started with ubuntu?
[22:30] <EPAstor> junaid: Okay - you're using the official version. The bad news there is that that means there's probably not much we can do about it... many people have similar problems, and Adobe won't put much effort into fixing it. How much memory does your system have installed?
[22:31] <Sylphid|netbook> red, what are the permissions of the directories you are symlinking to?
[22:31] <EPAstor> atila1: What sound card do you have?
[22:31] <red> rw for owner, read for other groups
[22:31] <junaid> i have 2 GB ram and a AMD dual core
[22:31] <red> hmm, i did not restart samba after creating the symlinks, ill  test if that helps
[22:32] <red> no, that didnt help Sylphid|netbook
[22:32] <red> any ideas?
[22:32] <nigelnigel> barbarella i did and no playlist shows up in temp
[22:32] <Brandon__> norbert before you install Ubuntu see this video how to do: http://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8223
[22:32] <nigelnigel> barbarella in tmp i mean
[22:32] <EPAstor> junaid: Yeah... sounds like the computer's fine... Flash is generally just extremely bad on Linux, and Adobe isn't terribly helpful. Sorry... I'm out of ideas. Anyone else have ideas as to problems with choppy Flash video on YouTube?
[22:32] <Sylphid|netbook> red, just making sure i got this right the originals have rw-r--r-- permissions?
[22:33] <nijat11> hello=)
[22:33] <norbert> hehe it is in greek
[22:33] <junaid> thanks for your help EPAstor
[22:33] <Brandon__> yes but it will helps you
[22:33] <dlynes> EPAstor, Boot up windows
[22:33] <red> Sylphid|netbook: yeah
[22:33] <nijat11> today i start use ubuntu it is great OS
[22:33] <barbarella> nigelnigel:going to try the same thing, a sec
[22:33] <Brandon__> chose the first blue line
[22:33] <nijat11> better than windows
[22:33] <EPAstor> dlynes: Yeah, I was trying to suggest other options than that, but...
[22:34] <norbert> but i don`t undrstand, not even where to click:P
[22:34] <trism> Zenker: can you change the icons to anything else? (not something in the blender folder)
[22:34] <red> sorry was wrong Sylphid|netbook
[22:34] <red> Sylphid|netbook: drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12288 2010-03-11 13:07 Red
[22:34] <marijuana> nijat11: really?
[22:34] <norbert> i installed ubuntu
[22:34] <red> (Red is the folde rname)
[22:34] <cheako> Killing hald-addon-stor* and devkit-disks-da* stopped every thing from pooling my Optical Drives...  This made them fast.
[22:34] <nijat11> aha=)
[22:34] <norbert> it was a bit freaky at the start
[22:34] <devdz> mmm How I modify a specific line in a text file using shell ?
[22:34] <norbert> but now its running
[22:34] <junaid> do u think i could use wine and have firefox and flash there ?
[22:34] <red> but iirc i did sudo chown red on the folders.
[22:35] <cheako> How can I tell gnome-settings-daemon to stop trying to start and/or connect to pulseaudio?
[22:35] <barbarella> red:try to make an other share
[22:35] <Brandon__> to install chose the forst option
[22:35] <marijuana> nijat11: u migrate from microsuck windoz to linux?
[22:35] <norbert> just need to setup somehow the dual view with my 1280 * 1024 an 1920 * 1200 display
[22:35] <norbert> dunno how
[22:35] <Brandon__> first*
[22:35] <Zenker> trism lemme try
[22:35] <ala> xx
[22:35] <nijat11> yes
[22:35] <nigelnigel>  barbarella: nigelnigel:going to try the same thing, a sec is the last message i got if you sent another please repost thanks for the help
[22:35] <dlynes> I've been trying to do a PXE boot install of Ubuntu Jaunty, and try as I might, I can't seem to get the GUI installed...it seems to want to install a stripped down version of Ubuntu with only a console for some reason
[22:35] <red> Sylphid|netbook: i found something called wide links = no
[22:36] <norbert> thanks Brandon__ its intstalled yet
[22:36] <dlynes> Anyone have any suggestion on how to fix this for preseeding?
[22:36] <sudobash> ati drivers cause my Ubuntu partition to crash every time I boot it up, sometimes it takes 20 minutes sometimes it an hour
[22:36] <dlynes> I also can't seem to get it to autoaccept the default hostname
[22:36] <sudobash> brand new laptop: gatway NV5378u
[22:36] <rohithwiz23> How do I install my creative vf-0050 for Ubuntu 9.10??
[22:36] <cheako> What's watershed?  Why does it run lvm?
[22:36] <Zenker> trism i can if i use the default set, but not any of the ones in the blender folder or my custom set
[22:36] <Brandon__> before you install it you must fix partitions
[22:36] <dlynes> sudobash, ati drivers have always been mostly buggy on linux
[22:37] <Bushido> always been fine for me.
[22:37] <dlynes> sudobash, I find Nvidia works considerably better
[22:37] <nijat11> i love linux=)
[22:37] <Zenker> trism do you know where it stores the default set of icons?
[22:37] <Bushido> ati doesn't support the new xserver, but the driver works fine (i have 4670)
[22:37] <EPAstor> sudobash: Video drivers can be touchy... do you know which chipset the laptop uses?
[22:37] <EPAstor> sudobash: Also, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:38] <Zenker> trism my first guess was to put my icons there
[22:38] <rohithwiz23> How do I install my creative vf-0050 for Ubuntu 9.10??
[22:38] <barbarella> nigelnigel:did it write the xml file?
[22:39] <Zenker> trism ok theyre ni usr/share/pixmaps
[22:39] <trism> Zenker: might be worth a shot, depends on your icon theme, mine is /usr/share/icons/Humanity, the default is /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[22:39] <den> i want to write a script  to send a file.txt to an email with mailx command
[22:39] <ala> I have a problem with the sound in Skype.
[22:39] <ala> I have ubuntu 9.04 that I love
[22:39] <ala> Help
[22:39] <cheako> Is there a tool like ddrescue that would do multi-read and compare?
[22:40] <rohithwiz23> How do I install my creative vf-0050 web camera for Ubuntu 9.10??
[22:40] <edeca> cheako: Multi-read from what?
[22:40] <norbert> how can i make the grub to disapear
[22:41] <norbert> it is annoying that every time i need to press enter
[22:41] <cheako> edeca: Optical media?
[22:41] <sudobash> Ubuntu 9.10, AMD Athlon M300, chipset M880G, Vid: Ati Mobility Radeon HD 4200
[22:41] <cheako> edeca: ...Would it matter?  Any block device would look the same... no?
[22:41] <Zenker> trism dang permission denied again, i forgot how 2 get around this
[22:42] <Zenker> trism i can view, but i cannot copy to that folder
[22:42] <edeca> cheako: So you want to do multiple reads and check each pass?
[22:42] <sudobash> I am having to run Windows 7 at the moment because the atheros AR5B93 wifi cuts out after 20 minutes in ubuntu and the ATI drivers cause red and white lines eventually on every boot: Ubuntu 9.10, AMD Athlon M300, chipset M880G, Vid: Ati Mobility Radeon HD 4200
[22:42] <nigelnigel> barbarella id it write the xml file, i dont get what you mean by this
[22:42] <edeca> cheako: I wonder if you can md5sum a block device.
[22:42] <marijuana> guys... can u help me how to automatically remove an old software configuration and files leave behind after uninstallation process??
[22:43] <blakkheim> sudobash: atheros has great linux support, but you can try blacklisting the kernel module and compiling madwifi
[22:43] <acicula> marijuana: --purge
[22:43] <barbarella> nigelnigel:try to save it as 3mu
[22:43] <blakkheim> sudobash: ati on the other hand.. don't even bother
[22:43] <acicula> marijuana: that will remove everything the package created, use with caution
[22:43] <Sylphid|netbook> red, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4095531&postcount=10
[22:43] <cheako> edeca: Pass?  Multi-reads of a single block.  Then you take the most popular value for each bit.
[22:43] <nigelnigel> barbarella k one sec
[22:43] <trism> Zenker: you can: gksudo nautilus /usr/share/pixmaps; then just drag and drop, just be careful
[22:43] <barbarella> nigelnigel:oeps m3u
[22:43] <red> oooh, thanks Sylphid|netbook
[22:44] <red> would not have foud that on the forum in million years :)
[22:44] <edeca> cheako: Ah, you are trying to rescue something?  I've only ever used ddrescue for that (or EAC on Windows, but that's for audio)
[22:44] <red> now all there is to figure out is how to fix permissions for my external HD
[22:44] <red> for some reason chowing it doesnt work at all
[22:44] <nigelnigel> barbarella still nothing
[22:44] <barbarella> red:ntfs?
[22:44] <red> yeah
[22:44] <red> no error, seems like it does it, but wont affect
[22:44] <barbarella> red:ok
[22:44] <longcat> is there a way to get wireless up and running when ubuntu boots without having to auto-login?
[22:44] <red> all my other ntfs partitions get chowned ok
[22:45] <red> barbarella: you familiar with the issue?
[22:45] <longcat> or log in manually
[22:45] <Myxb> hi! where do i setup how often rsyslogd writes to disk? here is accesses disk about every 3-4 sec. anyone?
[22:45] <barbarella> red:yes
[22:45] <cheako> edeca: Yes, I'm using ddrescue.
[22:45] <red> i've like tried to figure it out for hours one day nott long ago
[22:45] <rohithwiz23> How do I install my creative vf-0050 web camera for Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:45] <barbarella> red:yes
[22:46] <red> barbarella: may I open a /query with you?
[22:46] <barbarella> red:ok
[22:46] <sudobash> so what with ATI I can't use my laptop on Linux/BSD without it crashing?
[22:46] <dlynes> Is there a better place to ask about preseeding issues?
[22:46] <sudobash> why can't there be open source ati drivers?
[22:47] <nigelnigel> i've tried saving a playlist with vlc in ubuntu it saves and seems to approve it
[22:47] <nigelnigel> but when i look nothing is there in the folder
[22:47] <lekefly> anyone got a link to a good web proxy?
[22:47] <seanbrystone> !tor | lekefly
[22:48] <seanbrystone> oh gee
[22:48] <seanbrystone> !info Tor
[22:48] <lekefly> seanbrystone: was thinking in browser:p
[22:48] <blakkheim> sudobash: because ati is the enemy of your freedom
[22:48] <seanbrystone> yeah epic fail there :)
[22:48] <sudobash> AMD is evil too then no?
[22:48] <dlynes> !info preseed
[22:49] <sudobash> intel is any better?
[22:49] <blakkheim> sudobash: yes
[22:49] <longcat> uh at leat nvidia's drivers work, and even on stuff like solaris they work
[22:49] <longcat> what more could you want
[22:49] <blakkheim> sudobash: intel cpus are faster than amds and intel's graphics chipsets work great in linux
[22:49] <sudobash> yeah no doubt I love Nvidia but I figured ATi since they are owned by AMD would be doing better than this
[22:50] <blakkheim> sudobash: although if you want gaming or 3d stuff, get nvidia, who also has good linux support
[22:50] <Zenker> trism nope, didnt work i must be missing something here, hmmm
[22:50] <trism> Zenker: if that isn't working, there must be something wrong with the icons, what format are they in?
[22:50] <dlynes> amd bought ati?
[22:50] <Brandon__> Intel works great with all UnixOS
[22:50] <acicula> sudobash: better is relative, buy for what you need at a price you can afford
[22:50] <dlynes> I thought it was just a working business relationship?
[22:51] <acicula> dlynes: ati is owned by amd
[22:51] <Zenker> trism good question, the ones i made are both png and ico for windows
[22:51] <longcat> that's a relationship
[22:51] <acicula> dlynes: you can look it up
[22:51] <sudobash> I just liked the laptop a lot it was the best deal around and I always though intel integrated graphics sucked
[22:51] <dlynes> acicula, it never used to be...amd's american, and ati was canadian
[22:51] <frankS2> iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth0:0 -j ACCEPT
[22:51] <Zenker> trism but the ones in the blender folder are the ones they made
[22:51] <frankS2> how can i make that possible?
[22:51] <dlynes> weird
[22:52] <acicula> dlynes: afaik amd is based in germany mostly these days?
[22:52] <NoOutlet> Hey all. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get my microphone input to work in Ubuntu. I've got a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum SB0240P.
[22:52] <trism> Zenker: yeah the ico won't work, but I don't see why the png doesn't
[22:52] <Zenker> trism oh, and i even tried to navagate to that folder, and none of the icons showed up there..thats why i know  i must be missing somethin
[22:52] <dlynes> acicula, wow...huge change...they used to be in Mississauga
[22:52] <acicula> dlynes: well ati and amd are multinationals so they are all over
[22:53] <Zenker> trism idk, im getting frustrated, it should be easier then this im gonna have to revisit this later when im not such a noob
[22:53] <dlynes> I guess the whole concept of preseeding is not that popular?
[22:53] <Zenker> its only my 2nd week messin with ubuntu AND linux :)
[22:53] <NoOutlet> Zenker, you're trying to make an icon?
[22:54] <Zenker> trism thank you for trying to help me though, i did learn a few things
[22:54] <sudobash> well I guess I am going to try FreeBSD and see if that works
[22:54] <trism> Zenker: you're welcome, hope you figure it out
[22:54] <Zenker> NoOutlet i know how to make icons, but i cant seem to change the icons under the application menus
[22:55] <dlynes> Zenker, menu editor (System->Preferences->Main Menu
[22:55] <rohithwiz23> How do I install my creative vf-0050 web camera for Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:55] <Zenker> dlynes i know how to do it, i can only choose from the default set that installed with ubuntu
[22:55] <alzamabar> !!PLEASE HELP!! I installed Windows 7 and now my grub has disappeared
[22:56] <acicula> !grub | alzamabar:
[22:56] <NoOutlet> You mean, the icons for "Accessories", "Games", "Graphics", etc?
[22:56] <norbi> guys, i need help
[22:56] <norbi> i have to displays
[22:56] <acicula> rohithwiz23: as in access the disk in the camera?
[22:56] <norbi> but ubuntu does`t seeing any of them
[22:56] <freeman> want to launch a .sh file at start up. Ubuntu tutorials are not working. The program is cronometer, can an ubuntu ninja check this out and tell me what I need to do to launch this at start ?
[22:57] <acicula> !upstart | freeman
[22:57] <rohithwiz23> acicula: Its a web cam.. it has no disc
[22:57] <NoOutlet> Zenker, You mean, the icons for "Accessories", "Games", "Graphics", etc?
[22:57] <longcat> event driven init model, sounds kinda like SMF
[22:57] <freeman> Yeah I followed the instructions on that carefully, I'm doing something wrong
[22:57] <dlynes> Zenker, have you tried installing the following packages:  gnome-extra-icons, gnome-themes-extra, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme-nuovo, gnome-icon-theme-suede?
[22:57] <acicula> rohithwiz23: type gstreamer-properties and switch to video, any video?
[22:57] <Zenker> NoOutlet correct, i installed blender 2.49 b by extracting it to a folder into my home folder, it has a set of icons, and they do not show up in the icon browser (even if i navagate to that folder)
[22:57] <acicula> gstreamer-properties in a console
[22:57] <freeman> I need somebody to specifically tell me what command line I need to input in the start up field
[22:57] <dlynes> Zenker, those should give you more icons
[22:57] <rohithwiz23> acicula: Into the terminal?
[22:58] <Zenker> ty i will deff get those
[22:58] <abir> #xubuntu
[22:58] <longcat> LOL
[22:58] <acicula> rohithwiz23: yup
[22:58] <dlynes> Zenker, there's probably some additional icon sets for ubuntu, but I'm not on ubuntu right now, so I can't tell you offhand
[22:58] <den> how can i run bourne shell in  ubuntu?
[22:59] <rohithwiz23> acicula: Hey got a video from the second test button
[22:59] <den> how can i run bourne shell in  ubuntu?
[22:59] <acicula> rohithwiz23: then it is working
[22:59] <NoOutlet> Okay, Zenker, do you have .svg files for these icons?
[22:59] <Zenker> dlynes are the gnome-extra-icons in the software center or do i just sudo apt-get or how?
[23:00] <acicula> the sh shell den ?
[23:00] <den> ye
[23:00] <Zenker> NoOutlet no i dont think so
[23:00] <acicula> just type sh in a console
[23:00] <rohithwiz23> acicula: I want it to work w/ Xsane image scanner
[23:00] <NoOutlet> Let me try something.
[23:00] <dlynes> Zenker, you can do "sudo apt-cache search icon | grep -i gnome" to see what's available, and then sudo apt-get install them
[23:00] <acicula> rohithwiz23: i dont know anything about Xsane
[23:00] <den> why setenv command is not found?
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> I recorded a webcam video that is 7min long and 100MB. I recorded with cheese and the resolution I used was 800x600. I waited for it to upload to YouTube but had to cancel cause it was past an hour for uploading it. Are there any webcam recording apps that allow you to choose res, bitrate and codec and all that good stuff and that actually works?
[23:01] <dlynes> den, remove the symbolic link at /bin/sh and make it point at /bin/bash instead
[23:01] <norbi> how can i run a .run file???
[23:01] <dlynes> den, bash will then run in bourne shell compatible mode, but it's not 100% bourne compatible
[23:02] <NoOutlet> Ok, you've got pngs, Zenker?
[23:02] <Zenker> dlynes thank you i found them :)
[23:02] <NoOutlet> Aw man...
[23:02] <Zenker> yes they are pngs
[23:02] <norbi> guys please answer pls
[23:02] <norbi> how can i run a .run file
[23:02] <acicula> norbi: make it executable
[23:02] <den> dlynes can u tell me the commandS?
[23:02] <norbi> and how?
[23:02] <LinuxGuy2009> norbi: sudo sh filename.run
[23:03] <norbi> i just installed ubuntu
[23:03] <aptget> υπάρχει Ελληνας εδώ;
[23:03] <acicula> norbi: chmod +x file && ./file
[23:03] <norbi> need nvidia driver
[23:03] <dlynes> norbi, before you make it executable, what exactly is it?
[23:03] <den> egw
[23:03] <dlynes> norbi, or do you even know?
[23:03] <norbi> i dont even know what the hell this
[23:03] <kostkon> !gr | aptget
[23:03] <acicula> norbi: use the provided nvidia driver, running the binary package from nvidia will hose your system
[23:03] <acicula> norbi: or whatever nvidia driver is packaged in the repo
[23:03] <LinuxGuy2009> norbi: sudo sh filename.run thats how you run it.
[23:03] <dlynes> norbi, i wouldn't suggest running it as an executable if you don't know what it is
[23:04] <cheako> How can I tell gnome-settings-daemon to stop trying to start and/or connect to pulseaudio?
[23:04] <norbi> it is a driver from nvidia.com
[23:04] <lekefly> Is it regular that extertnal drives got SATA weireing? or do they just use IDE?
[23:04] <norbi> it opens in gedit
[23:04] <norbi> even if im writing in terminal sudo sh ...
[23:04] <Zenker> NoOutlet i will be awk for about 5 mins (potty break)
[23:04] <cheako> How can I change the sound system in gnome?
[23:04] <NoOutlet> Well, you can right click on "Applications" select "Edit Menus", click on the menu whose icon you'd like to change, click Properties, click on the large icon on the left. That will show you the icons you can choose from in the default folder for Application icons. However, you can type in the address of any .png file you have and then choose that.
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009> lekefly: if its an eSATA drive then yes it will be sata. IDE ain sued so much anymore.
[23:05] <NoOutlet> Well, when you come back, read that.
[23:05] <acicula> norbi: chmod +x in a console then you can execute it or rightclick the file in nautilus and select the execute bit and double click. But to install the drivers you need root access, and it is really really not advisable to install nvidia drivers this way
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009> cheako: Preferences, sound.
[23:05] <robert__> i installed my broadcom b43 wireless driver just fine but its not letting me install the broadcom sta one
[23:05] <cheako> LinuxGuy2009: Won't load... waiting for sound system.
[23:05] <robert__> i click activate, password, and nothing
[23:05] <lekefly> LinuxGuy2009: its only got firewire 800 and usb.. thinking of taking the drive out..
[23:05] <robert__> it acts like its loading stuff but does nothing
[23:05] <norbi> then can you tell me please how to install it? this is not to userfriendly
[23:05] <acicula> norbi: have you tried enabling the binary drivers via system->administration->hardware drivers
[23:06] <norbi> *too
[23:06] <robert__> does anyone know how to enable broadcom sta wireless driver?
[23:06] <LinuxGuy2009> lekefly: Maybe use the command line to find the drive model and look online to see.
[23:06] <acicula> norbi: ubuntu comes with the drivers, no need to fetch your own from a website, in principle anyway
[23:06] <norbi> my hardware drivers list are empty
[23:06] <norbi> is nothing there
[23:06] <acicula> norbi: what kind of nvidia card do you have
[23:06] <norbi> 7 series
[23:07] <norbi> don`t exactly know
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Should be in the hardware drivers dialog window. I have a BCM4312 and thats what I used.
[23:07] <norbi> 7200 gs
[23:07] <norbi> or something from 7 series
[23:07] <kovacevic> holaaaaa desde Peru!!!
[23:07] <kothz> I just installed a fresh ubuntu netbook remix (v9.10).  Turned on advanced desktop effects (compiz); installed CCSM; increased the number of desktops to 4; turned on the cube & rotate cube; turned on wallpapers; specified 4 background images; and made sure that apps>nautilus>show desktop was disabled in gconf-editor.  No background images appeared save for the original brown ubuntu one. ...
[23:07] <kovacevic> alguien de CHiclayo?
[23:07] <kothz> ...Switched to desktop wall.  Same issue.  Any thoughts?
[23:07] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, but what do i do when i click activate and the b43 does fine and the sta nothing?
[23:07] <kovacevic> soy nuevo
[23:08] <alzamabar> !!HELP PLEASE!! Following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub doesn't work for me.
[23:08] <Bisu[Shield]> how do i find the keyid of a particular user using gpg
[23:08] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: You dont need the b43 most of the time I dont think. Try the STA by itself first.
[23:08] <norbi> so lets try againg please
[23:08] <norbi> here in hardware drivers are nothing listed and nothing that can be enabled
[23:08] <acicula> norbi: yeah im looking
[23:08] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Which model card is it? Its not a 4312 is it?
[23:08] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, i removed it and the other one still won't activate
[23:09] <lekefly> LinuxGuy2009: think its this one.. http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=322613&view=detailed#ProductTabs
[23:09] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, i don't know
[23:09] <acicula> norbi: 7900gtx/
[23:09] <acicula> ?
[23:09] <lekefly> i dont see anything of what interface it uses inside..
[23:09] <Bisu[Shield]> hello
[23:09] <norbi> no it is not 7900 gtx
[23:09] <alzamabar> Can somebody help with an installation please?
[23:09] <robert__> its a dell inspiron 1545
[23:09] <ash30> Got a problem with Acer Aspire 5670 laptop on ubuntu 9.10: it's lagging a lot (not like in previous distros I tried). Checked via dmesg, it keeps cycling through probing, turning on and off some device on ehci_hcd. Can anybody help with that?
[23:09] <norbi> it is gs and something smaller than 7900
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: sudo lshw -C lan
[23:10] <acicula> norbi: k
[23:11] <acicula> norbi: you need to install an older version probably(if at all) from the ubuntu repository, just not sure on which one you need
[23:11] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, it is 4312 yes
[23:11] <norbi> it asking that to disable the x server, what is that ? the GUI interface?
[23:11] <norbi> i mean the downloaded version. ..
[23:11] <norbi> .run
[23:11] <acicula> yeah
[23:11] <acicula> norbi: again dont use that, it will break your system pretty badly
[23:11] <norbi> ok
[23:11] <LinuxGuy2009> lekefly: Really no way to tell from those specs or just by looking at it. It could be PATA or SATA. Who knows.
[23:11] <norbi> i cant understand why it will
[23:12] <norbi> if it will then i dont know what to say ...
[23:12] <alzamabar> !!PLEASE HELP!! I need to recreate a MBR
[23:12] <acicula> norbi: because it disregards the package management and blatently overwrites any files it wants to
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: I have the BCM4312 in my Dell Mini 10v and I run 9.04, only need the STA only.
[23:12] <ash30> Got a problem with Acer Aspire 5670 laptop on ubuntu 9.10: it's lagging a lot. Checked via dmesg, it keeps cycling through probing, turning on and off some device on ehci_hcd. Can anybody help with that?
[23:12] <acicula> norbi: so it may break any configuration programs or future upgrades
[23:12] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, how do i get it activated?
[23:12] <logistic> anyone play openarena?
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Did you deactivate b43 first?
[23:12] <alzamabar> PLEASE HELP. I'm facing problems with an installation and I need to reinstall the MBR
[23:12] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, yes i did
[23:13] <norbi> ok, im trying to give a chance to this, i would really like to use ubuntu, but it is hard like hell for the first time :)
[23:13] <norbi> it looks very unstable
[23:13] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Try rebooting and try to do the STA by itself. You running 9.10?
[23:13] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, yes
[23:13] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, i'll try that thanks might brb
[23:13] <blakkheim> norbi: ubuntu is actually extremely easy and requires almost no knowledge to setup and use
[23:13] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: ok
[23:13] <acicula> norbi: if this is a new install did you update it yet?
[23:14] <kothz> ash30: can you throw up a pastebin of the dmesg output showing the on/off transactions?
[23:14] <ash30> alzamabar: so recreate it. Third party tools might help it.
[23:14] <norbi> now it finished updating
[23:14] <norbi> requires a restart
[23:14] <ash30> kothz: I haven't tried it before, how is it done?
[23:14] <acicula> norbi: try that first and then retry enabling the hardware driver
[23:14] <alzamabar> ash30: if I knew how to do it I would have already done it. Anything to suggest? I'm following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub but the output is different for me
[23:14] <norbi> i`ll be back in a moment to tickle you guys :p
[23:14] <kothz> basically, in a terminal window, dmesg, then copy that... go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste it :)
[23:15] <alzamabar> ash30: Especially if I run ls /media/[my-media-label] I don't see the kind of files shown on the website, but rather the disk where I've got Ubuntu installed
[23:16] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, still the same
[23:16] <trism> alzamabar: is this with grub2 (ubuntu 9.10) if so, this method works https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[23:17] <alzamabar> trism: Yes, it's with GRUB2, Ubuntu 9.10
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: It may be a bug in 9.10. I dropped it and went back to 9.04 cause of all the crap I had to deal with in 9.10. Works fine in 9.04.
[23:17] <Dantonic> Hello, I cannot see my ubuntu machine on the network.  It is not in the router's DHCP Client's table list, and I also cannot see it from my windows laptop.  Samba is installed on the ubuntu machine.  Any idea why?
[23:17] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, it worked fine in the current lucid
[23:17] <ash30> kothz: done, now what?
[23:17] <kothz> paste the URL :)
[23:17] <nashenas> why the ubuntu channels LOG is in goole and search engines ??? it not need. I want nobody see my text from google
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Well lucid isnt karmic. Karmic was buggy as hell.
[23:17] <nashenas> everybody serch my nick name
[23:17] <nashenas> can see everything is wrote
[23:17] <NoOutlet> Zenker, are you back? Have you tried my advice?
[23:18] <nashenas> it's my rights
[23:18] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, can you believe the current lucid is less buggy than the karmic final product?
[23:18] <nashenas> and why ubuntu publish them over the net?
[23:18] <jrib> nashenas: this channel is logged, don't say anything you don't want the world to know
[23:18] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, you reckon an update would help?
[23:18] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Yes because lucid is on it sway to be the next LTS it needs to be more stable.
[23:18] <claptrap> robert__: Is it realy?
[23:18] <ash30> kothz: here you are http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/252rzrJm
[23:18] <nashenas> jrib: why don't you said it before ?
[23:18] <kothz> nashenas: Well, it's your right to suffer in silence should you choose :) but if you're here for help, your problems help others :)
[23:18] <jrib> nashenas: read the topic
[23:18] <robert__> oh speaking of which the current lucid looks a lot better, no default brown its orange, purple, and gray
[23:18] <nashenas> before I say or asked something in my native channel from everyone ?
[23:19] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Karmic was crammed full of new things that made it unpredicatble. But thats so they could work the bugs out for LTS.
[23:19] <robert__> and someone is probably about to scream offtopic so i'll shut up now lol
[23:19] <alzamabar> trism: http://pastebin.com/Yt7vpGb8
[23:19] <kovacevic> bye
[23:19] <meowbuntu> wow
[23:19] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, oh i see that makes sense
[23:19] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Are the window buttons on the left side now like they talked about?
[23:19] <nashenas> are there anyway to clear my own logs ?
[23:19] <robert__> also they got money from yahoo to have yahoo as the default search on the home page
[23:19] <kothz> ash30: thanks :) if you type 'lsmod' do you see vc032x listed?
[23:19] <jrib> nashenas: not the public logs, no
[23:19] <hareldvd> ZykoticK9, Howdy,
[23:19] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, yes and the x is red
[23:20] <LinuxGuy2009> hmm cool
[23:20] <nashenas> jrib: in my native channel ?
[23:20] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, and the terminal box is purple and transparent
[23:20] <claptrap> Am I the only one who thinks that is the stupidest decision ever? lol.
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> hareldvd, hi ?
[23:20] <claptrap> The buttons on the left, I mean.
[23:20] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__:  Funny the purple.
[23:20] <acicula> nashenas: if you own a channel you can prevent logging
[23:20] <trism> alzamabar: you don't need the installing section, you need the recover from livecd section near the bottom
[23:20] <jrib> nashenas: what do you mean by "native channel"?
[23:20] <norbert> guys im back
[23:20] <norbert> but from my laptop
[23:20] <norbert> and using win 7 because ubuntu wont start up
[23:20] <hareldvd> I want to thank you again for the SDL_JOYSTICK_DEVICE variable. It works great.
[23:20] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, so you'd recommend goin back to 9.04 or 10.04 instead of stayin here? lol
[23:21] <norbert> after the update it restarts again again again again
[23:21] <norbert> again
[23:21] <norbert> again
[23:21] <FloodBot2> norbert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <norbert> it is annoying
[23:21] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, or should i try system update
[23:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Well I guess if there is no good solution for video recording and editing then I guess I have 2 choices buy a camcorder or Windows 7.
[23:21] <nashenas> jrib: I said in pm
[23:21] <claptrap> I'm too scared to try an alpha Linux install. qq
[23:22] <kothz> I'd be scared to own an Alpha these days :)
[23:22] <hareldvd> ZykoticK9, I want to thank you again for the SDL_JOYSTICK_DEVICE variable. It works great.
[23:22] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: You can do whatever you want. Im on 9.04 till 10.04 LTS comes out. I'm staying the hell away from the Koala.
[23:22] <robert__> claptrap, it will be beta at the end of this month or early next month i think
[23:22] <hareldvd> Have to go.
[23:22] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: He bites.
[23:22] <claptrap> robert__: Yeah, beta I'm a little less scared of.
[23:22] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, haha funny one
[23:22] <claptrap> robert__: Been keeping an eye on the roadmap~
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> hareldvd, glad it's working!
[23:22] <hareldvd> Thanks man.
[23:22] <ddrj> wait
[23:22] <robert__> claptrap, its almost beta so thats good. after alpha 4 is usually pretty stable
[23:22] <ddrj> what's wrong with 9.10 ?
[23:22] <ash30> alzamabar: sorry, haven't realize the task before. You don't have to use 3rd party utils. There are simpler ways, just check ubuntu help site, and look for installation procedures description. You'd probably have to reinstall GRUB from some external source, like a flash drive distribution.
[23:22] <norbert> it is a big shit
[23:23] <ddrj> 9.10 = koala right ?
[23:23] <JEEBsv> yeah
[23:23] <robert__> yep
[23:23] <ash30> kothz: nope, it's not there
[23:23] <JEEBsv> personally I had no problems with it
[23:23] <ddrj> shit i just got it last night x(
[23:23] <claptrap> The Koala of Ultimate Karma.
[23:23] <bazhang> norbert, watch the language ddrj you too
[23:23] <LinuxGuy2009> ultimate failure on my machine
[23:23] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, do you think system update might help or am i wasting my time? lol
[23:23] <norbert> im goingto explode here with koala
[23:23] <robert__> oh i think kinky koala sounds better lol
[23:23] <ddrj> a lot of people have problems with 9.10? if so i can go to 9.04, i can just redownload it
[23:23] <jrib> ddrj: 9.10 is the latest stable release of ubuntu
[23:23] <ddrj> ahhh ok
[23:24] <jrib> ddrj: do you have any problem with it?
[23:24] <norbert> i used ubuntu just for a single boot
[23:24] <claptrap> "Stable" being something of an opinion.
[23:24] <robert__> honestly 9.04 is the best distro ever imo
[23:24] <norbert> that was it
[23:24] <ddrj> i haven't installed it yet jrip
[23:24] <Nollog> Windows drivers didn't fix it either, going to try desktop ubuntu
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: I had all current updates last week for Koala and didnt fix a darn thing. Wouldnt even boot up cause of a bas swap space right after a clean install and updates installed.
[23:24] <norbert> a big one boot, when even a simple driver canot be installed
[23:24] <jrib> claptrap: "stable" as in no unecessary updates...
[23:24] <norbert> now it doesnt boots up
[23:24] <jrib> !enter | norbert
[23:24] <norbert> what the hell is wrong with this
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> robert__: Among 5-10 other critical bugs.
[23:24] <ash30> kothz: wait, it's right there as "gspca_vc032x"
[23:24] <bazhang> LinuxGuy2009, did you have a support question?
[23:24] <kothz> ash30: try adding 'blacklist gspca' and 'blacklist vc032x' to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and reboot when you have a chance
[23:25] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, if lucid is as good as it is good looking it should be pretty awesome. except the gray, it needs a different border color
[23:25] <jrib> ddrj: 9.10 is the version you should install, come back if you have any issues of course :)
[23:25] <ddrj> hehehe ok, i'll just install 9.10 then
[23:25] <LinuxGuy2009> bazhang: No I dont need your help.
[23:25] <robert__> LinuxGuy2009, oh, well thanks anyhow. i'm dumping kinky koala right this second lol
[23:25] <bazhang> LinuxGuy2009, then please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:25] <LinuxGuy2009> bazhang: No thanks. I cant help people there.
[23:26] <ash30> kothz: would you remind me which text editor gnome uses? Is it "sudo gedit *" or smth?
[23:26] <bazhang> LinuxGuy2009, I have seen no evidence of help.
[23:26] <LinuxGuy2009> bazhang: Good for you.
[23:26] <robert__> bazhang, he helped me
[23:26] <Semitones> is there an aptitude equivalent for sudo apt-get auto-remove?
[23:26] <jrib> LinuxGuy2009: this channel is just for support (because it's really busy).  So you can help people here and chat at the same time in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks.
[23:26] <claptrap> bazhang: I dare say you haven't been paying much attention~
[23:26] <kothz> ash30: I'm oldschool... sudo vi... :)
[23:26] <robert__> bazhang, he also helped me realize i need to dump kinky koala and go either forward or backward
[23:26] <norbert> guys what can i do now
[23:26] <LinuxGuy2009> jrib: No thanks Im helping people here. Thanks anyways.
[23:26] <kothz> I just installed a fresh ubuntu netbook remix (v9.10). Turned on advanced desktop effects (compiz); installed CCSM; increased the number of desktops to 4; turned on the cube & rotate cube; turned on wallpapers; specified 4 background images; and made sure that apps>nautilus>show desktop was disabled in gconf-editor. No background images appeared save for the original brown ubuntu one...
[23:26] <norbert> ???
[23:26] <bazhang> robert__, its karmic koala
[23:27] <robert__> bazhang, i know that lol
[23:27] <norbert> im staying here looking at the black screen
[23:27] <jrib> LinuxGuy2009: that's fine.  But move the non-support talk to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Let's move on...
[23:27] <norbert> it looks like windows blue screen
[23:27] <LinuxGuy2009>  jrib: Theres been no off-topic thanks.
[23:27] <kothz> It exhibits the same lack of backgroundy goodness with 'desktop wall'.  Any thoughts?
[23:28] <ash30> kothz: that' fine, thank you very much. I'll try your advice and report back later.
[23:28] <LinuxGuy2009> Semitones: Move down to the section of packages that are not installed and select purge from the menu.
[23:29] <mneptok> LinuxGuy2009: aptitude has a menu? you sure?
[23:29] <jrib> Semitones: aptitude does that automatically when you remove a package
[23:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Semitones: CTL+T in aptitude brings down the menu. Yes.
[23:30] <norbert> why at the boothing this is restarting?? somebody knows the answer??
[23:30] <alzamabar> trism: It worked like a clock, thanks.
[23:30] <norbert> oh god
[23:30] <jrib> norbert: what?  rephrase your question
[23:31] <Semitones> jrib, alright, because I just uninstalled xubuntu-desktop, and I'd like it to remove thurnar, etc
[23:31] <daniskami> mneptok: aptitude also has a curses-interface
[23:31] <norbert> it restarts at booting
[23:31] <trism> alzamabar: excellent!
[23:31] <jrib> Semitones: aptitude will only know what to do if you also installed the package using aptitude I believe
[23:31] <LinuxGuy2009>  Semitones: then just "sudo apt-get remove thunar"
[23:31] <mneptok> daniskami: yeah, wouldn't know. i use apt exclusively.
[23:31] <LinuxGuy2009>  Semitones: You can remove unneeded packages with "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[23:32] <MgMt> Couldn't open "/home/andy/.config/transmission/lock": Permission denied    <---- what does that mean?
[23:32] <Semitones> jrib, ah ok. I'll just use apt-get to autoremove them -- I think I installed it with synaptic or apt-get
[23:32] <jrib> Semitones: k
[23:32] <daniskami> mneptok: oh, you can actually use aptitude with basically the same command-line options as apt-get, so I've been using only aptitude recently :)
[23:32] <claptrap> MgMt: "Permission denied" usually means you need to sudo your command, in my experience.
[23:32] <LinuxGuy2009> Semitones: They can all be used interchangably they all do the same stuff in different ways.
[23:32] <jrib> MgMt: means you probably ran stuff with sudo when you shouldn't have.  What does this return: ls -ld /home/andy/.config/transmission/lock
[23:33] <MgMt> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-03-11 20:21 /home/andy/.config/transmission/lock
[23:33] <redlance> Is there a better channel to discuss backup technologies?
[23:33] <jrib> MgMt: so, have you been running transmission with sudo for some reason?
[23:33] <LinuxGuy2009> redlance: Clonezilla
[23:33] <kothz> MgMt: that makes sense... if you're trying to write to the files, and you're not root (not sudo'ed), you're out of luck :)
[23:34] <jrib> !backups > redlance
[23:34] <MgMt> it wouldnt let me save torrents to a diff partition  cuz of "permissions" so i sudo'd the crap out of it
[23:34] <mneptok> redlance: backup in which sense? making a bit-for-bit copy of a volume/partition, or backing up your files?
[23:34] <kothz> I just installed a fresh ubuntu netbook remix (v9.10). Turned on advanced desktop effects (compiz); installed CCSM; increased the number of desktops to 4; turned on the cube & rotate cube; turned on wallpapers; specified 4 background images; and made sure that apps>nautilus>show desktop was disabled in gconf-editor. No background images appeared save for the original brown ubuntu one......
[23:34] <kothz> ...desktop wall also suffers the same lack of backgrounds... any thoughts?
[23:34] <jrib> MgMt: that's why.  chown the files back to your user.  After that transmission should work fine.  Instead of using sudo, solve the actual permissions issue you had
[23:35] <jcg> I just setup a 9.10 server.  Font encoding is utf-8. How do I change the encoding so colon will show as a colon and not a small diamond?
[23:35] <gloom> MgMt, sudo chown andy:users ~/.config/transmission/lock
[23:35] <redlance> I meant hardware technologies, like cd-rom or tape or raid...
[23:35] <fofos> hello guys i am newbie and i am trying to send and receive files from my mobile i am using debian ubuntu and toshiba laptop can someone help me pls ?  isearch all over the net and google too i can get it fixed
[23:35] <LinuxGuy2009> kothz: You trying to cycle wallpapers?
[23:35] <gloom> MgMt, sudo chown andy:andy ~/.config/transmission/lock  BETTER!
[23:35] <bazhang> fofos, debian?
[23:35] <kothz> linuxguy2009: yeah, to set up a different wallpaper for each desktop face
[23:35] <fofos> gnome i mean sry
[23:35] <jrib> gloom: ^u yeah :)
[23:36] <claptrap> What does the -r flag on chown do? I see it on pretty much every website that tells me to chown something.
[23:36] <kothz> I just feel like I'm missing something basic :) it's worked on every other installation of ubuntu I've done :)
[23:36] <fofos> bazhang gnome ubuntu 9.10
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009> kothz: Oh I dont know anything about that, but package called "drapes" can do that but it shows up on all desktops.
[23:36] <jrib> MgMt: you probably want to check the ownership on any other files that exist in transmission's config directory too
[23:36] <jrib> claptrap: recursive
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> claptrap, recursive, meaning everything under that point as well
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009>  kothz: 9.10?
[23:36] <kothz> -R is recursive... does it work with -r too?
[23:36] <claptrap> jrib, ZykoticK9 : Got it, thanks.
[23:36] <kothz> LinuxGuy2009: Yup
[23:36] <MgMt> jrib how do i do that?
[23:37] <LinuxGuy2009>  kothz: Doesnt suprise me at all.
[23:37] <kernel> hey
[23:37] <jrib> MgMt: one way: find ~/.config/transmission ! -user andy
[23:37] <kernel> lorenzo
[23:37] <Varia> is there a way to make tomboy run programs
[23:37] <kernel> alguien habla español
[23:37] <jrib> !es | kernel
[23:38] <mneptok> kernel: Ingles solamente aqui.
[23:38] <bazhang> kernel, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:38] <Varia> if i wanted to say have tomboy open the calulator on a click of the link?
[23:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: You mean to schedule program executions?
[23:38] <fofos> hello guys i am newbie and i am trying to send and receive files from my mobile i am using gnome ubuntu 9.10 and toshiba laptop can someone help me pls ?  isearch all over the net and google too i can get it fixed
[23:38] <ash30> kothz: man, are you still here? it's working! you're fantastic, you're a wizard, thank you very much for help. She's flying now, no lag at all. I still wonder what was that though... but nevermind for now.
[23:38] <Varia> no i want to click on a link to a executable and have it open
[23:38] <MgMt> thanks
[23:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: Put a launcher on desktop or panel. Problem solved.
[23:39] <kothz> ash30: basically a driver was misbehaving... you just told the OS not to load it... glad to help...
[23:39] <Varia> hahaha not quite the answer i was looking for...
[23:39] <Varia> but thanks
[23:39] <redlance> LinuxGuy2009, jrib, ubottu, and mneptok, I meant hardware solutions...but thansk!
[23:39] <mneptok> kothz: i've never seen any functionality in GNOME to allow different backgrounds per workspace
[23:40] <jcg> I just setup a 9.10 server.  Font encoding is utf-8. How do I change the encoding so colon will show as a colon and not a small diamond?
[23:40] <kothz> mneptok: I use it on my big box all the time :) Compiz + CCSM + Wallpapers
[23:40] <LinuxGuy2009> redlance: Why are you referencing my name. I dont know who you are.
[23:40] <Varia> it links to directories and text files and opens them i was curious to see if anyone had gotten an executable to load from it.
[23:40] <fofos> hello guys i am newbie and i am trying to send and receive files from my mobile i am using gnome ubuntu 9.10 and toshiba laptop can someone help me pls ?  isearch all over the net and google too i can get it fixed can someone help me pls?
[23:40] <MgMt> jrib would sudoing transmission cause a blank screen/kernel panic or something of that nature?
[23:40] <redlance> LinuxGuy2009, Because you told me to checkout Clonezilla
[23:41] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: Make a link to a binary and try it.
[23:41] <LinuxGuy2009> redlance: What do you mean you want a hardware solution. Buy an external hard drive and use Clonezilla. Theres a great solution.
[23:41] <Varia> it says that there is no pogram associated with it ... its odd
[23:41] <mneptok> kothz: yes, but Compiz != GNOME. not every GNOME User can run Compiz
[23:42] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: Sounds like it can only open files created with applications only.
[23:42] <kothz> mneptok: I understand that, but I can. :)
[23:42] <Varia> that would be a great addon though i wonder who i can contact about that
[23:42] <Ardethian> I just installed Ubuntu, configured it, installed my graphics card, my sound card, set up my interwebz connection, and all that in the 1st time installing linux.
[23:42] <Ardethian> I'm so proud of myself right now.
[23:43] <owenm> Possibly silly question! I've installed postgresql-8.3, which depends on libldap-2.4-2. The same server runs a built by-hand OpenLDAP 2.4.21 server... as a result, it looks like postgresql is picking up on the more recent libldap libraries from my local install. Since Postgresql was built against a certain version of LDAP library, I *don't* want this to happen, right?
[23:43] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: Check the Help-> About menu for an email address.
[23:43] <Varia> thanks linuxguy :)
[23:43] <LinuxGuy2009> Varia: Sure
[23:43] <jcg> I just setup a 9.10 server.  Font encoding is utf-8. How do I change the encoding so colon will show as a colon and not a small diamond?
[23:43] <Guest80488> ok
[23:44] <mneptok> Varia: http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/PlaceForNewIdeas
[23:44] <melodie_> bonne nuit
[23:44] <Varia> nice link thank you too
[23:45] <jcg> I just setup a 9.10 server.  Font encoding is utf-8. How do I change the encoding so colon will show as a colon and not a small diamond?
[23:46] <linxeh> jcg: in what?
[23:46] <mneptok> jcg: where does it appear like that? a local console, or remote?
[23:46] <gloom> jcg, graphical environment or console?
[23:47] <jcg> mneptok, local console and in vi
[23:47] <gloom> :D
[23:47] <jcg> gloom, console
[23:47] <linxeh> jcg: so just typing a : at bash gives you a small diamond ?
[23:47] <jrib> MgMt: no
[23:47] <mhall119|work> anyone know the minimum requirements to install 9.10 from the alternate CD?
[23:47] <LinuxGuy2009> jcg: Checked your locale settings?
[23:47] <jcg> linxeh, yes
[23:48] <linxeh> mhall119|work: I've got it on a 512mb p4 2ghz system - which is the least I'd want to be subjected to
[23:48] <jcg> LinuxGuy2009, no .. where do I do that, pls?
[23:48] <LinuxGuy2009> jcg: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[23:48] <Nollog> Anybody here have an intel 4965 AGN working under linux?
[23:48] <jcg> LinuxGuy2009, ty, will try that
[23:48] <acicula> mhall119|work: 1Ghz/256Mb is pretty much minimal to be practical
[23:48] <gloom> Nollog, I do.It works OOT. What's up?
[23:48] <LinuxGuy2009> jcg: cool
[23:48] <kothz> Here's an opinion type question: Separate partition for /home?  Say, 50G for /, 4G for swap, and 200G for /home?  Or is it just a useless segregation of space?  (Makes for easier upgrades, I think...)
[23:49] <acicula> though im sure you can still get it to boot on a p60
[23:49] <dogge10> hey, how does copy and paste from putty works on ubuntu?
[23:49] <dogge10> (karmic koala)
[23:49] <acicula> kothz: seems sane, make swap a bit bigger(2X), yes to easier upgrading
[23:49] <LinuxGuy2009> kothz: Seperate home is good cause if you reinstall then it wont get overwrote with the new OS install etc.
[23:49] <mneptok> kothz: 50GB for / is way too much, unless you plan on doing something scary.
[23:49] <bazhang> kothz, its a very good option, in case something goes wrong, or you wish to fresh install, home is protected
[23:49] <Nollog> gloom: How? Mine will either do nothing (spin in circles in the nm) when trying to connect to an unencrypted network, or ask over and over for WEP/WPA key.
[23:50] <mneptok> kothz: desktop or laptop?
[23:50] <kothz> mneptok: laptop
[23:50] <kothz> mneptok: well, netbook
[23:50] <kothz> thanks all btw :)
[23:50] <mneptok> kothz: how much physical memory?
[23:50] <kothz> 2g
[23:50] <linxeh> kothz: it depends
[23:50] <redlance> What is the shelf life of the data stored on a hard drive?
[23:51] <acicula> kothz: then the 4G of swap is enough
[23:51] <gloom> jcg, before reconfiguring locales, I think you need to edit the locales config file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400991
[23:51] <LinuxGuy2009> redlance: Until the drive dies.
[23:51] <kothz> redlance: depends on whether you leave the hard drive on the shelf :)
[23:51] <linxeh> kothz: I normally do about 15GB for /, some swap, and then rest on home and /data
[23:51] <acicula> redlance: indefinite in principle
[23:51] <mneptok> kothz: ever plan on upgrading the memory? if not 2.5GB swap should be fine.
[23:51] <gloom> Nollog, ubuntu 9.10?
[23:51] <jcg> gloom,  that may be, as the reconfigure only checked for updates
[23:51] <Nollog> gloom: yea, tried both netbook and desktop versions now.
[23:51] <nh2> I read about "newforms", is that already the default "forms" in django 1.1?
[23:51] <redlance> Ok, thanks guys
[23:52] <mneptok> kothz: in order to suspend or hibernate, you need to dump the contents of physical memory to swap. so swap should be slightly more than total physical RAM.
[23:52] <gloom> Nollog, using the stock kernel?
[23:52] <nh2> Nollog: what's your wifi problem?
[23:52] <kothz> I've tried shaking the "Thou shalt create 7 slices" a la old school Solaris... it's hard sometimes :)
[23:52] <kothz> mneptok: oo good point
[23:53] <Nollog> gloom: I'm trying the desktop version just off the live cd right now, but netbook version had the same problem installed.
[23:53] <hmw> My PC just shut down due to temperature problems. I'd expected a fsck on boot, but nothing happened. What should I do now?
[23:53] <nh2> Nollog: whatever it is, please tell me if its like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528161
[23:53] <Nollog> nh2: wifi card sees networks etc., but won't connect.
[23:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Your having wifi issues? Are you trying to connect to your own router?
[23:54] <hmw> Oops... forgot to mention, while I was installing with Synaptics (My PC just shut down due to temperature problems. I'd expected a fsck on boot, but nothing happened. What should I do now?)
[23:54] <kothz> hmw: not all unplanned shutdowns force a fsck... i'd check the fans, make sure they're not blocked... are you overclocking?  overheating Is Not A Social Semiconductor Thing To Be Doing.
[23:54] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: yea, It's a wrt610n, I also just tried a motorolla G with dd-wrt on it.
[23:54] <alzamabar> I'm running from LiveCD. Can I remove the linux-swap partition and then re-create it without affecting my existing installation?
[23:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Ok what speeds does your adapter support b/g only?
[23:54] <Nollog> nh2: I'm not sure overheating would be a problem, the system seems to be running nicely.
[23:55] <Nollog> b/g/n
[23:55] <alzamabar> I want to resize the current linux partition but there is the linux swap between my current partition and the space available
[23:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Ok is your SSID being broadcast?
[23:55] <gloom> Nollog, that's weird because this card is supported and works fine with recent kernels. try to disable the card (sudo ifconfig wlan0 down) ,reenable (sudo ifconfig wlan0 up) and then try to scan for networks from the console (iwlist wlan0 scan) and see if you got a good scan.
[23:55] <cheako> Udev is pooling lvm, can IO get this to stop... or get it to ignore my optical drives?
[23:55] <hmw> kothz: thanks for you hints, but I would like to continue/restart the install process, respectivley clean up before
[23:55] <gloom> Nollog, if it scans correctly, the wifi is working. Maybe the problem is not on your card after all, but on the network.!?
[23:55] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: yes/
[23:55] <hmw> kothz: what do?
[23:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Do you have any security in place? WEP, WPA etc?
[23:56] <Nollog> wpa2, required for N speeds.
[23:56] <kothz> hmw: oh!  I missed the fact that you're in the middle of an install...
[23:56] <Nollog> the same crad worked perfectly in my laptop three days ago or two.
[23:56] <Nollog> That runs windows 7x64
[23:56] <guest> what?
[23:57] <nh2> Nollog: unfortunately, it iseems it is not temperature-related
[23:57] <nh2> I thought this
[23:57] <guest> vcgdhwkfqkyuwruyrer
[23:57] <guest> ftuyewtqytfyegyrfoeto8
[23:57] <guest> rfye2wr7r6323yorfeywoyftgwye
[23:57] <guest> fwytyfudyfte3wtrgyu23tyr
[23:57] <nh2> but now its quite cold and my card does not connect
[23:57] <FloodBot2> guest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <Nollog> gloom: I'll try that.
[23:57] <guest> tryo2tryw2yretwyotryewotryewtfuotuoftewoytyftewy
[23:57] <guest> fewyitfyewotfoewouq
[23:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Try broadcasting in g only and see if you can connect with no WEP or WPA enabled and go from there.
[23:57] <cheako> ./rules.d/85-lvm2.rules
[23:57] <guest> your craay
[23:57] <nh2> at university, many of us have 5100 intel cards and no one can connect
[23:57] <guest> dwiqayfgewyittrfgycuewt
[23:57] <guest> fdetwfqyfuoteyoqtfe
[23:57] <guest> rfetywtfyegyfue
[23:57] <FloodBot2> guest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <guest> qfetyqifewyqtfew
[23:57] <gloom> Nollog, the card should work. I am connected right now thtough a WPA2-PSK network with this card and ubuntu 9.10.
[23:57] <kothz> hmw: try restarting the install?
[23:57] <guest> fwetqfiewyqift6e
[23:57] <acicula> nh2: never?
[23:57]  * kothz cheeers for FloodBot2!
[23:58] <nh2> acicula: yep, I cannot connect to any network
[23:58] <acicula> nh2: try with a router that has N mode disabled
[23:58] <nh2> a friend of mine can connect only at home
[23:58] <nh2> its strange
[23:58] <acicula> nh2: not mixed mode, but just complettely off
[23:58] <nh2> acicula: at any mode
[23:58] <Nollog> gloom: "no scan results"
[23:58] <guest> can any of you speak english
[23:58] <acicula> guest: most can
[23:58] <alzamabar> Can I remove my linux-swap partition and re-create it at a second time (from LiveCD) without affecting my existing linux partition?
[23:58] <nh2> acicula: my router is configured in g only mode
[23:58] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: tried that
[23:58] <gloom> Nollog, mmmmmmm that's strange
[23:58] <acicula> nh2: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[23:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: 9.10?
[23:58] <nh2> Nollog: can you pastie a full dmesg?
[23:58] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: yea
[23:58] <acicula> nh2: on jaunty?
[23:59] <Nollog> dmesg?
[23:59] <acicula> or the lts version
[23:59] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Do you have a 9.04 live CD sitting there?
[23:59] <guest> what country are you from?
[23:59] <alzamabar> trism: are you still there?
[23:59] <nh2> acicula: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100
[23:59] <guest> yes
[23:59] <Nollog> No, I just downloaded the 9.10 iso
[23:59] <guest> cool
[23:59] <iceroot> is there a way to have every request on 192.168.0.0/24 on eth0 and everythig on another network in eth1?
[23:59] <guest> yes