| ScottL | persia: I had a look at the setup.py at it certainly wasn't clear at first glance ;P any pointers you might offer would be greatly appreciated | 03:08 |
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| ScottL | i have sick kids rights now (that's why I got some done today during the day) but I should devote some more time to study it a little later tonight | 03:08 |
| ScottL | i wasn't joking earlier when I stated I've never messed with python before :( but again, I'll look through it and try to work it out given the context | 03:10 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, would you have two minutes to look at what I want to add to the ubuntustudio-look setup.py file to install the plymouth theme? | 03:56 |
| ScottL | not the whole file, just the one line that I want to add | 03:56 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: Sure. | 04:11 |
| persia | ScottL: Sorry, had a bit of a nap, and have to run off for a few hours, which probably digs into your night. I'll check backscroll, and send you an email if you don't visibly have it resolved. | 04:20 |
| ScottL | persia, TheMuso ('lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo', glob.glob('lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo/*')) | 04:37 |
| ScottL | that is what I added, i'm assuming that the 'ubuntustudio-logo' directory will be created under lib/plymouth/themes automatically | 04:38 |
| ScottL | and the ...ubuntustudio-logo/* will copy everything from that directory | 04:38 |
| * TheMuso needs to look at how the rest of the file is done to refres his memory. | 04:38 | |
| ScottL | i'll be holding my son trying to get him to go to sleep but I'll keep checking back on IRC every ten minutes or so | 04:39 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: that looks right. The theme doesn't need to be compiled? | 04:43 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, no, it's quite nice! real improvement, there. It's using .png files for the graphics | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: ah cool | 05:08 |
| * TheMuso wonders how we set the default plymouth theme... | 05:08 | |
| ScottL | postint file - plymouth-set-default-theme --rebuild-initramfs ubuntustudio-logo | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | noice. | 05:08 |
| ScottL | i stole this from xubuntu-plymouth-theme wish i was this cool ;P | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 05:09 |
| ScottL | going upstairs to try to clean up the problem in setup.py, i'm hoping I just screwed up some syntax when I added the line | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: ah ok | 05:11 |
| ScottL_ | yeah, I forgot the ending comma, going to try to rebuild and then install on fresh lucid-alpha partition (crosses fingers) | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: If adding another line below others, don't forget to add a comma at the end of the previous line. | 05:12 |
| ScottL_ | that was it, except I inserted it into the middle between two lines that didn't wrap around on the text editor (it looked cleaner and less likely for me to mess up) | 05:14 |
| ScottL_ | well not in the middle of an individual line of course, but in the middle of the collective | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: right | 05:25 |
| ScottL | it's going to take an hour to build in ppa, i'm going to bed, good night (or day) | 05:31 |
| * abogani waves | 09:45 | |
| abogani | Could anyone correct an email before that I sent it? | 10:02 |
| persia | I can proofread one, sure. pastebin? | 10:05 |
| abogani | persia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393912/ Thanks. | 10:08 |
| abogani | persia: Feel free to offend me (for my very bad English). :-) | 10:08 |
| persia | Do you want critique, or me to edit it directly? | 10:08 |
| persia | Also, do you want the old linux-rt package in the archive? | 10:09 |
| abogani | persia: Yes let linux-rt untouched please. | 10:10 |
| persia | And do you want critique or edits? | 10:10 |
| abogani | persia: I really appreciate if I can see your corrections (so edits please). | 10:11 |
| persia | Sure. | 10:11 |
| abogani | persia: Thanks very lot (I'm always very grateful to whom try to teach me some good English). | 10:12 |
| persia | http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/ | 10:15 |
| persia | Note that I would have phrased things very differently. I tried to keep your pacing and sentence structure, just changing a few words and word positions. | 10:16 |
| abogani | persia: If it isn't a problem could you send me your version. If UDS ever came in Italy I'll offer a beer to for sure (or a glass of Chianti) :-) | 10:19 |
| persia | My version? You mean a rewrite? | 10:20 |
| abogani | persia: Yes! If it isn't a problem for you (I wouldn't want bother you too much) | 10:23 |
| persia | No problem. Just take a bit (rewriting takes more time, like a real critique : edits are easy :) ) | 10:23 |
| abogani | persia: Thanks (again) | 10:25 |
| persia | abogani: If I were writing that email, I'd have written something more like http://paste.ubuntu.com/393926/ . I'll ask that you not send that directly, but if you want to borrow some of that and merge with http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/ (or other sources), I would be happy to proofread it again. | 10:31 |
| persia | Each of us has our own voice in writing, and that presents itself, regardless of language. I very much do *not* want to have you send something that indicates you are a different person than you are :) | 10:31 |
| persia | (plus it appears that the last paste has a couple spelling errors (e.g. flavout)) | 10:32 |
| abogani | persia: I understand. | 10:33 |
| * abogani listening Readtzky March... | 10:33 | |
| abogani | Radetzky | 10:33 |
| abogani | :-) | 10:34 |
| persia | :) | 10:34 |
| rlameiro | radetzky??? the march ? | 10:34 |
| abogani | rlameiro: Yes | 10:37 |
| rlameiro | will play that tomorrow | 10:37 |
| rlameiro | lol | 10:37 |
| rlameiro | again one more time | 10:38 |
| * abogani now switched to "Mysterious Ways.".. | 10:38 | |
| abogani | persia: I would want send your corrected version (http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/) to studio devel/user and kernel mailing lists. May I send? | 12:31 |
| persia | Sure. That's just edits to your voice. I expected you to send that. | 12:31 |
| persia | Err, wait. | 12:32 |
| persia | Yeah, go ahead. | 12:32 |
| persia | It's http://paste.ubuntu.com/393926/ that I didn't want you to send, because it reads like I wrote it. | 12:32 |
| abogani | persia: Sent. Thanks a lot for you help. | 12:42 |
| * abogani just read an email on -devel and wondering on who take care of new member requests... | 12:46 | |
| persia | What sort of member? | 12:47 |
| abogani | persia: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-March/002292.html | 12:48 |
| abogani | jussi01: Are you around? | 12:48 |
| * persia hunts down quadrispro | 12:48 | |
| ScottL | re: ubuntu studio developer membership - I think most apply via the launchpad team and I believe that Luke (TheMuso) accepts or rejects them | 12:52 |
| ScottL | re: quadrispro yay! | 12:53 |
| * abogani never heard that Luke take care of new members... | 12:53 | |
| ScottL | I only know from experience | 12:53 |
| abogani | ScottL: Do you have any idea on who is the moderator of -users mailinglist? | 12:54 |
| ScottL | abogani, maybe, and this isn't definitive, just maybe it might be jussi01 | 12:54 |
| abogani | ScottL: Thanks Mr! | 12:55 |
| ScottL | persia, TheMuso, the build and installation of the plymouth theme went well and it works, although since ubuntu studio boots so quick you don't get much of a look at it | 12:55 |
| ScottL | persia, TheMuso, I'll file the UIF today while I'm at work (grandfather is coming to stay with sick kids today) | 12:56 |
| persia | ScottL: Perfect. | 12:56 |
| persia | ScottL: Thanks a lot for making this happen. | 12:56 |
| jussi01 | abogani: pong | 12:57 |
| jussi01 | and yes, I am the moderator of the list. | 12:57 |
| abogani | ScottL: How many kids? | 12:58 |
| abogani | jussi01: Could you take care of this https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-studio-users/83402f205ff83ce18268123caa53e3fbb9d8b324, please? Thanks in advance! | 12:58 |
| jussi01 | abogani: you want it canceled or acctepted? | 12:59 |
| abogani | jussi01: The second one, please. | 12:59 |
| jussi01 | abogani: done | 13:00 |
| abogani | jussi01: Thanks. | 13:00 |
| jussi01 | oh for petes sake, will someone add abogani to the team already? | 13:03 |
| abogani | jussi01: Sorry I don't understand... | 13:04 |
| jussi01 | abogani: I just read your email. I dont understand why someone hasnt added you already to the team... | 13:05 |
| jussi01 | but hang on | 13:05 |
| jussi01 | you are a member of the team... | 13:06 |
| jussi01 | Alessio Igor Bogani2007-04-17 ?Approved | 13:06 |
| jussi01 | oh hang on | 13:06 |
| jussi01 | Im reading wrong... | 13:06 |
| jussi01 | Im looking at a different alessios email.. | 13:06 |
| * jussi01 blushes and hides... | 13:07 | |
| abogani | jussi01: :-) | 13:07 |
| abogani | What? Rhythmbox just started to play a Take That song! arghhhhhhh | 13:09 |
| * abogani singing "That's Amore" right now ... | 13:14 | |
| ScottL | persia, thanks for the thanks, I am very, very glad to help (as I've probably stated numerous times before, heh) | 13:18 |
| ScottL | I just wished I knew more already so trying to get things like this done quickly wouldn't cause me to be a slightly frantic wreck | 13:18 |
| ScottL | abogani, two are sick and staying home, my wife and I were up almost all night two nights ago and I was a slight bit punch drunk from lack of sleep over two days (this is the normal me for the record) | 13:19 |
| persia | ScottL: The key thing to concentrate on for lucid is learning how things work, and how to get things done. That should let you be productive in lucid+1 when you can follow the entire release schedule. Don't worry too much if some stuff slips this cycle: you're still learning. | 13:21 |
| abogani | ScottL: Wow :-) If I recall well you are three-times father, right? Where is the third one? School? | 13:24 |
| jussi01 | hello `Alessio` | 14:09 |
| `Alessio` | hello jussi01 persia | 14:09 |
| `Alessio` | hello everyone | 14:09 |
| * jussi01 guesses this is alessio treglia? | 14:09 | |
| persia | `Alessio`: What happened to "quadrispro"? | 14:10 |
| === `Alessio` is now known as quadrispro | ||
| persia | heh :) | 14:10 |
| persia | Thanks for hitting the ams bug. | 14:11 |
| quadrispro | yep, now I'm myself :) | 14:11 |
| jussi01 | ahh now theres no double tab :D | 14:11 |
| quadrispro | you're welcome, was my fault, I forgot to file a sync request | 14:11 |
| persia | I wondered about that when I saw the changelog :) | 14:13 |
| quadrispro | eh eh, my exams, idjc and some other stuff made me very busy | 14:14 |
| quadrispro | persia, have you ever been at the Canonical office in London? take a look a this fantastic view -> http://images.alessiotreglia.com/pool/millbank_tower.jpg | 14:17 |
| persia | Never been there. Nice view! | 14:18 |
| quadrispro | before going away I would notice you that I'm working on the linuxsampler packaging, I hope Free should upload it to unstable in the next few days, so after that if we could try to get it in Lucid we need to manage a FFe | 14:21 |
| persia | Did the license for that get sane, or is it still special? | 14:21 |
| * persia will argue for blacklisting if it's still special | 14:22 | |
| quadrispro | the license is GPL-3 with a special "commercial exception" | 14:22 |
| quadrispro | but we hope to get it available from non-free | 14:22 |
| persia | Please don't. | 14:23 |
| persia | It was removed from Debian based on that license. | 14:23 |
| quadrispro | yep we know | 14:23 |
| persia | The license is self-contradictory. | 14:23 |
| persia | Can you not convince Christian to use a sane license? | 14:23 |
| quadrispro | yes, we know, but upstream explained us the reason | 14:23 |
| persia | Which was the explanation this time? | 14:24 |
| * persia has seen about 4 so far | 14:24 | |
| quadrispro | and it's quite easy: he doesn't want that 3rd parties can use his code to write new commercial and non-open software based on his work | 14:25 |
| persia | GPL does part 2. | 14:25 |
| persia | And GPL effectively does part 1 too. | 14:26 |
| persia | Because if anyone does do that, any purchaser can request the code. | 14:26 |
| persia | And then the purchaser can distribute for free, etc. | 14:26 |
| quadrispro | so, he said: "you can use it for commercial purposes, but you can't write any commercial linuxsampler-based software and release it under other different licenses" | 14:27 |
| quadrispro | yep, we know, but it's hard to convince him to change the license | 14:27 |
| persia | quadrispro: The non-commercial clause contradicts clause 4 of the GPL. | 14:27 |
| persia | It cannot be distributed with the license as written. | 14:27 |
| persia | I know. I was involved in a debate with him a long time ago. | 14:28 |
| quadrispro | yes, it also contradicts DFSG | 14:28 |
| persia | I will blacklist it from Ubuntu and complain to debian-legal if it gets into Debian with that license. | 14:28 |
| persia | Not that it's not good software, but that I do not believe it to be safe for any of the mirrors to distribute it. | 14:28 |
| quadrispro | I will talk to Free about that and try (again) to convince Christian to remove that clause | 14:29 |
| persia | Please. | 14:30 |
| persia | I'd love to have that software working, but I will push to have it dropped again if it gets in with that license. | 14:30 |
| quadrispro | now I have to go, but thanks persia, I'll let you know | 14:31 |
| quadrispro | see you later | 14:31 |
| persia | Great. Happy to have you around. | 14:32 |
| quadrispro | thanks, the same here. hope to see you again at the next UDS! | 14:32 |
| quadrispro | see you later guys | 14:32 |
| ScottL_ | hi quadrispro, glad you are here | 15:28 |
| abogani | jussi01: Could you help me again? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-studio-users/f1d9aafd2ee1bf651d96f647b5278f4685718df0 | 17:47 |
| abogani | jussi01: Could you accept it, please? Thanks in advance! | 17:54 |
| ScottL_ | persia: don't know if you are around...i somewhat kept an eye on the release meeting but I was pretty busy at work today (being out with kids yesterday) and they talk about a LOT | 19:45 |
| ScottL_ | so i'll review the meeting over the weekend and mention anything that I find of note | 19:46 |
| ScottL_ | UI freeze exception bug filed LP#538274 for plymouth theme | 21:21 |
| ScottL_ | persia or TheMuso, what is the next step that I need to do if/when the exception is approved | 21:22 |
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