[03:08] persia: I had a look at the setup.py at it certainly wasn't clear at first glance ;P any pointers you might offer would be greatly appreciated [03:08] i have sick kids rights now (that's why I got some done today during the day) but I should devote some more time to study it a little later tonight [03:10] i wasn't joking earlier when I stated I've never messed with python before :( but again, I'll look through it and try to work it out given the context [03:56] TheMuso, would you have two minutes to look at what I want to add to the ubuntustudio-look setup.py file to install the plymouth theme? [03:56] not the whole file, just the one line that I want to add [04:11] ScottL: Sure. [04:20] ScottL: Sorry, had a bit of a nap, and have to run off for a few hours, which probably digs into your night. I'll check backscroll, and send you an email if you don't visibly have it resolved. [04:37] persia, TheMuso ('lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo', glob.glob('lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo/*')) [04:38] that is what I added, i'm assuming that the 'ubuntustudio-logo' directory will be created under lib/plymouth/themes automatically [04:38] and the ...ubuntustudio-logo/* will copy everything from that directory [04:38] * TheMuso needs to look at how the rest of the file is done to refres his memory. [04:39] i'll be holding my son trying to get him to go to sleep but I'll keep checking back on IRC every ten minutes or so [04:43] ScottL: that looks right. The theme doesn't need to be compiled? [05:07] TheMuso, no, it's quite nice! real improvement, there. It's using .png files for the graphics [05:08] ScottL: ah cool [05:08] * TheMuso wonders how we set the default plymouth theme... [05:08] postint file - plymouth-set-default-theme --rebuild-initramfs ubuntustudio-logo [05:08] noice. [05:09] i stole this from xubuntu-plymouth-theme wish i was this cool ;P [05:09] ah ok [05:09] going upstairs to try to clean up the problem in setup.py, i'm hoping I just screwed up some syntax when I added the line [05:11] ScottL: ah ok [05:11] yeah, I forgot the ending comma, going to try to rebuild and then install on fresh lucid-alpha partition (crosses fingers) [05:12] ScottL: If adding another line below others, don't forget to add a comma at the end of the previous line. [05:14] that was it, except I inserted it into the middle between two lines that didn't wrap around on the text editor (it looked cleaner and less likely for me to mess up) [05:15] well not in the middle of an individual line of course, but in the middle of the collective [05:25] ScottL: right [05:31] it's going to take an hour to build in ppa, i'm going to bed, good night (or day) [09:45] * abogani waves [10:02] Could anyone correct an email before that I sent it? [10:05] I can proofread one, sure. pastebin? [10:08] persia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393912/ Thanks. [10:08] persia: Feel free to offend me (for my very bad English). :-) [10:08] Do you want critique, or me to edit it directly? [10:09] Also, do you want the old linux-rt package in the archive? [10:10] persia: Yes let linux-rt untouched please. [10:10] And do you want critique or edits? [10:11] persia: I really appreciate if I can see your corrections (so edits please). [10:11] Sure. [10:12] persia: Thanks very lot (I'm always very grateful to whom try to teach me some good English). [10:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/ [10:16] Note that I would have phrased things very differently. I tried to keep your pacing and sentence structure, just changing a few words and word positions. [10:19] persia: If it isn't a problem could you send me your version. If UDS ever came in Italy I'll offer a beer to for sure (or a glass of Chianti) :-) [10:20] My version? You mean a rewrite? [10:23] persia: Yes! If it isn't a problem for you (I wouldn't want bother you too much) [10:23] No problem. Just take a bit (rewriting takes more time, like a real critique : edits are easy :) ) [10:25] persia: Thanks (again) [10:31] abogani: If I were writing that email, I'd have written something more like http://paste.ubuntu.com/393926/ . I'll ask that you not send that directly, but if you want to borrow some of that and merge with http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/ (or other sources), I would be happy to proofread it again. [10:31] Each of us has our own voice in writing, and that presents itself, regardless of language. I very much do *not* want to have you send something that indicates you are a different person than you are :) [10:32] (plus it appears that the last paste has a couple spelling errors (e.g. flavout)) [10:33] persia: I understand. [10:33] * abogani listening Readtzky March... [10:33] Radetzky [10:34] :-) [10:34] :) [10:34] radetzky??? the march ? [10:37] rlameiro: Yes [10:37] will play that tomorrow [10:37] lol [10:38] again one more time [10:38] * abogani now switched to "Mysterious Ways.".. [12:31] persia: I would want send your corrected version (http://paste.ubuntu.com/393917/) to studio devel/user and kernel mailing lists. May I send? [12:31] Sure. That's just edits to your voice. I expected you to send that. [12:32] Err, wait. [12:32] Yeah, go ahead. [12:32] It's http://paste.ubuntu.com/393926/ that I didn't want you to send, because it reads like I wrote it. [12:42] persia: Sent. Thanks a lot for you help. [12:46] * abogani just read an email on -devel and wondering on who take care of new member requests... [12:47] What sort of member? [12:48] persia: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-March/002292.html [12:48] jussi01: Are you around? [12:48] * persia hunts down quadrispro [12:52] re: ubuntu studio developer membership - I think most apply via the launchpad team and I believe that Luke (TheMuso) accepts or rejects them [12:53] re: quadrispro yay! [12:53] * abogani never heard that Luke take care of new members... [12:53] I only know from experience [12:54] ScottL: Do you have any idea on who is the moderator of -users mailinglist? [12:54] abogani, maybe, and this isn't definitive, just maybe it might be jussi01 [12:55] ScottL: Thanks Mr! [12:55] persia, TheMuso, the build and installation of the plymouth theme went well and it works, although since ubuntu studio boots so quick you don't get much of a look at it [12:56] persia, TheMuso, I'll file the UIF today while I'm at work (grandfather is coming to stay with sick kids today) [12:56] ScottL: Perfect. [12:56] ScottL: Thanks a lot for making this happen. [12:57] abogani: pong [12:57] and yes, I am the moderator of the list. [12:58] ScottL: How many kids? [12:58] jussi01: Could you take care of this https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-studio-users/83402f205ff83ce18268123caa53e3fbb9d8b324, please? Thanks in advance! [12:59] abogani: you want it canceled or acctepted? [12:59] jussi01: The second one, please. [13:00] abogani: done [13:00] jussi01: Thanks. [13:03] oh for petes sake, will someone add abogani to the team already? [13:04] jussi01: Sorry I don't understand... [13:05] abogani: I just read your email. I dont understand why someone hasnt added you already to the team... [13:05] but hang on [13:06] you are a member of the team... [13:06] Alessio Igor Bogani 2007-04-17 ? Approved [13:06] oh hang on [13:06] Im reading wrong... [13:06] Im looking at a different alessios email.. [13:07] * jussi01 blushes and hides... [13:07] jussi01: :-) [13:09] What? Rhythmbox just started to play a Take That song! arghhhhhhh [13:14] * abogani singing "That's Amore" right now ... [13:18] persia, thanks for the thanks, I am very, very glad to help (as I've probably stated numerous times before, heh) [13:18] I just wished I knew more already so trying to get things like this done quickly wouldn't cause me to be a slightly frantic wreck [13:19] abogani, two are sick and staying home, my wife and I were up almost all night two nights ago and I was a slight bit punch drunk from lack of sleep over two days (this is the normal me for the record) [13:21] ScottL: The key thing to concentrate on for lucid is learning how things work, and how to get things done. That should let you be productive in lucid+1 when you can follow the entire release schedule. Don't worry too much if some stuff slips this cycle: you're still learning. [13:24] ScottL: Wow :-) If I recall well you are three-times father, right? Where is the third one? School? [14:09] hello `Alessio` [14:09] <`Alessio`> hello jussi01 persia [14:09] <`Alessio`> hello everyone [14:09] * jussi01 guesses this is alessio treglia? [14:10] `Alessio`: What happened to "quadrispro"? === `Alessio` is now known as quadrispro [14:10] heh :) [14:11] Thanks for hitting the ams bug. [14:11] yep, now I'm myself :) [14:11] ahh now theres no double tab :D [14:11] you're welcome, was my fault, I forgot to file a sync request [14:13] I wondered about that when I saw the changelog :) [14:14] eh eh, my exams, idjc and some other stuff made me very busy [14:17] persia, have you ever been at the Canonical office in London? take a look a this fantastic view -> http://images.alessiotreglia.com/pool/millbank_tower.jpg [14:18] Never been there. Nice view! [14:21] before going away I would notice you that I'm working on the linuxsampler packaging, I hope Free should upload it to unstable in the next few days, so after that if we could try to get it in Lucid we need to manage a FFe [14:21] Did the license for that get sane, or is it still special? [14:22] * persia will argue for blacklisting if it's still special [14:22] the license is GPL-3 with a special "commercial exception" [14:22] but we hope to get it available from non-free [14:23] Please don't. [14:23] It was removed from Debian based on that license. [14:23] yep we know [14:23] The license is self-contradictory. [14:23] Can you not convince Christian to use a sane license? [14:23] yes, we know, but upstream explained us the reason [14:24] Which was the explanation this time? [14:24] * persia has seen about 4 so far [14:25] and it's quite easy: he doesn't want that 3rd parties can use his code to write new commercial and non-open software based on his work [14:25] GPL does part 2. [14:26] And GPL effectively does part 1 too. [14:26] Because if anyone does do that, any purchaser can request the code. [14:26] And then the purchaser can distribute for free, etc. [14:27] so, he said: "you can use it for commercial purposes, but you can't write any commercial linuxsampler-based software and release it under other different licenses" [14:27] yep, we know, but it's hard to convince him to change the license [14:27] quadrispro: The non-commercial clause contradicts clause 4 of the GPL. [14:27] It cannot be distributed with the license as written. [14:28] I know. I was involved in a debate with him a long time ago. [14:28] yes, it also contradicts DFSG [14:28] I will blacklist it from Ubuntu and complain to debian-legal if it gets into Debian with that license. [14:28] Not that it's not good software, but that I do not believe it to be safe for any of the mirrors to distribute it. [14:29] I will talk to Free about that and try (again) to convince Christian to remove that clause [14:30] Please. [14:30] I'd love to have that software working, but I will push to have it dropped again if it gets in with that license. [14:31] now I have to go, but thanks persia, I'll let you know [14:31] see you later [14:32] Great. Happy to have you around. [14:32] thanks, the same here. hope to see you again at the next UDS! [14:32] see you later guys [15:28] hi quadrispro, glad you are here [17:47] jussi01: Could you help me again? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-studio-users/f1d9aafd2ee1bf651d96f647b5278f4685718df0 [17:54] jussi01: Could you accept it, please? Thanks in advance! [19:45] persia: don't know if you are around...i somewhat kept an eye on the release meeting but I was pretty busy at work today (being out with kids yesterday) and they talk about a LOT [19:46] so i'll review the meeting over the weekend and mention anything that I find of note [21:21] UI freeze exception bug filed LP#538274 for plymouth theme [21:22] persia or TheMuso, what is the next step that I need to do if/when the exception is approved