[00:05] <at2500_> no. if mic boost is off, it is very quiet. but still fuzzy
[00:05] <mefisto__> at2500_: one more idea, do you have version 2.1.0.81 ?
[00:06] <mefisto__> at2500_: there is a medibuntu package version 2.1.0.47 you never know, it might just work
[00:06] <mefisto__> at2500_: http://packages.medibuntu.org/karmic/skype.html
[00:10] <mefisto__> at2500_: sorry, the download links are dead. looks like skype has been removed from medibuntu
[00:11] <at2500_> mefisto: jeah, i just figured that. sucks. i dont find any debs of older versions of skype anywhere
[00:15] <at2500_> mefisto: aah.  some say it is an alsa issue
[00:15] <at2500_> mefisto: the alsa version in the repos is outdated? hm
[00:20] <coolface> sup guis
[00:20] <police_officer> nm u
[00:20] <coolface> :O
[00:20] <netdaemon> anyone know if grub2 supports efi?
[00:20]  * coolface 
[00:20] <police_officer> :O
[00:21] <coolface> netdaemon: totally
[00:21] <netdaemon> i'd like to single boot a macbook pro without changing the partition table format
[00:21] <netdaemon> nice
[00:21]  * coolface 
[00:21] <netdaemon> now if kubuntu had an EFI splash :)
[00:25] <usuario_> NACER
[00:25] <police_officer> hey guys i have a question. i installed kubuntu on my mac pro and then i tripped and fell on the mac pro and it fell over and now kubuntu doesn't start
[00:25] <police_officer> what did i do wrong?
[00:26] <police_officer> i stood it back up like it was
[00:26] <police_officer> but now it doesnt do anything
[00:27] <coolface> police_officer: sounds like you might need to re-format
[00:27] <police_officer> oh
[00:27] <police_officer> how do i do that?
[00:27] <coolface> delete system32
[00:27] <police_officer> on the mac pro or on this computer?
[00:28] <Greggaz> Anyone able to help with a Wireless issue im having on Kubuntu
[00:28] <police_officer> cause the mac pro doesn't do anything
[00:28] <police_officer> Greggaz: coolface is really helping me out
[00:28] <police_officer> maybe he can help you
[00:28] <Greggaz> ive added my wireless network to network connections, Where is the Connect button?
[00:29] <coolface> obv on the front
[00:29] <Typos_King> Greggaz:      left-click the connection button on the tray, it will list the available networks
[00:31] <Greggaz> Typos_King, its asking me if i wana go into panel settings
[00:31] <Typos_King> ?
[00:31] <Greggaz> Typos_King, where do u want me to click. as i see no Connection Button
[00:31] <Typos_King> that means you don't have a network to connect to or so
[00:32] <Greggaz> ive added the network to my network connections
[00:32] <Typos_King> there's usually a white square with a round dot in the middle, meaning to be the connectivity icon, for knetworkmanager
[00:32] <Typos_King> assuming knetworkmanager is running, which likely it's
[00:33] <police_officer> i always had troubles with wireless in kubuntu, but a friend of mine said i should install gentoo
[00:33] <police_officer> makes wireless a breeze
[00:33] <Greggaz> Typos_King, kNetworkmanager is Running :)
[00:33] <Greggaz> But no Wireless >.>
[00:33] <Typos_King> sooooo left-click it
[00:33] <Typos_King> what do you mean?   it shows no available networks?
[00:34] <Greggaz> No there is no little "Box with a Dot in"
[00:34] <Greggaz> ive got Network Manager open
[00:34] <police_officer> Greggaz: if wireless is being a pain you should seriously look at gentoo, it's much easier to set up wireless
[00:34] <coolface> open it more
[00:34] <Typos_King> heh
[00:34] <coolface> is it open enough?
[00:34] <tijesus77> can the bot unkick me?
[00:35] <tijesus77> i have a room to manage please
[00:35] <Greggaz> coolface, KnetworkManager is open on my desktop i see my network "hub"
[00:35] <coolface> ok what does the hub say
[00:35] <Greggaz> last used: Never
[00:35] <coolface> ok click it
[00:35] <Greggaz> ok
[00:36] <coolface> did you click it?
[00:36] <Greggaz> done that
[00:36] <Greggaz> yes :)
[00:36] <coolface> ok click it more
[00:36] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:36] <Greggaz> double click?
[00:36] <coolface> sure
[00:36] <police_officer> also try right clicks
[00:36] <Greggaz> it picks up my wireless
[00:36] <coolface> nice
[00:36] <Greggaz> i see "Karin1234"
[00:36] <coolface> ok
[00:36] <Greggaz> but.. how do i connect
[00:36] <coolface> press in the password
[00:37] <Greggaz> wireless security
[00:37] <Greggaz> I entered the password
[00:37] <coolface> and did you put it in?
[00:37] <Greggaz> yes
[00:37] <coolface> or did you just enter
[00:37] <coolface> you have to password before you enter
[00:37] <Greggaz> yeh ive put a password in
[00:37] <Greggaz> which is from my router
[00:37] <coolface> ok
[00:37] <coolface> now plug it in
[00:38] <Daughain> You make sure you chose the right encryption format, Greggaz?
[00:38] <Greggaz> yeh my router is on WPA/Personal
[00:38] <coolface> perfect
[00:38] <coolface> k plug it in
[00:38] <Greggaz> WPA-PSK
[00:38] <coolface> awesome
[00:38] <coolface> k
[00:38] <coolface> now plug it in
[00:38] <Greggaz> Plug what in?
[00:38] <Greggaz> its an inbuilt wireless card
[00:39] <coolface> the router
[00:39] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:39] <police_officer> you did have the router unplugged, didn't you?
[00:39] <Greggaz> no because i have an ADSL Box
[00:39] <police_officer> it won't work unless the router doesn't have power
[00:39] <coolface> oh you're on ADSL?
[00:39] <Greggaz> then how will i speak in here
[00:39] <coolface> that changes everything
[00:39] <coolface> ok
[00:39] <coolface> first unplug it
[00:39] <Greggaz> if i unplug my box it would dc me from here
[00:39] <coolface> yea you'll need to do that
[00:40] <coolface> and let the router power cycle
[00:40] <Typos_King> ...
[00:40] <coolface> srsly
[00:40] <coolface> with the kwifimanager open
[00:40] <Typos_King> Greggaz:     this a indoors wireless router  you want to connect to from another room, right?
[00:40] <coolface> power cycle your modemrouter
[00:40] <police_officer> uhh coolface aren't you ccna certified?
[00:40] <Greggaz> yes Typos_King
[00:41] <coolface> Greggaz: srsly you need to let it detect
[00:41] <coolface> it's automagic if the router can power cycle while kwifi is scanning
[00:41]  * coolface 
[00:41] <Typos_King> Greggaz:     right-click knetworkmanager on the system tray, and open it, go to the Wireless tab, and do an Edit, or I think is Add, and do a Scan
[00:42] <coolface> he ALRADY DID THAT
[00:42] <Typos_King> I don't use .. knetworkmanger.... .. I use gnome's, which IMO is better so
[00:42] <coolface> i like kde
[00:42] <police_officer> wait
[00:42] <Typos_King> heeh
[00:42] <coolface> hence kubuntu
[00:42]  * coolface 
[00:42] <police_officer> did he set up wpa_supplicant first
[00:42] <coolface> no he needs to power cycle
[00:42] <police_officer> he needs to do that before connecting
[00:42] <Typos_King> I like kde too, knetworkmanager sucks though
[00:42] <Greggaz> what do i need to do first
[00:42] <coolface> no gnome is terrible
[00:42] <police_officer> power cycle
[00:42] <Greggaz> ok 2mins
[00:42] <police_officer> Greggaz: do a power cycle
[00:43] <coolface> Greggaz: power cycle
[00:43] <Typos_King> coolface   not the network manager
[00:43] <coolface> yea
[00:43] <coolface> totally
[00:43] <Typos_King> well
[00:43] <Typos_King> it shows you  don't use it :P
[00:43] <coolface> i do
[00:43] <coolface> kde is awesome
[00:43]  * coolface 
[00:43] <FloodBotK2> coolface: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <coolface> k
[00:43] <Typos_King> Greggaz:     right-click knetworkmanager on the system tray, and open it, go to the Wireless tab, and do an Edit, or I think is Add, and do a Scan
[00:44] <coolface> http://pastebin.com/8zDdSyRb
[00:45] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    when adding a new wireless entry in it, it has the option for the SSID to 'scan' for it, it'll show whatever is nearby accessible and you can click yours
[00:45] <Gr3ggaz> right im back
[00:45] <coolface> did you power cycle?
[00:45] <Gr3ggaz> yes
[00:45]  * coolface 
[00:46] <Gr3ggaz> in Network Connections it says
[00:46] <Gr3ggaz> Connection: Hub
[00:46] <coolface> ok
[00:46] <Gr3ggaz> Last used: Never
[00:46] <coolface> click it
[00:46] <Gr3ggaz> done
[00:46] <coolface> you clicked it?
[00:46] <Gr3ggaz> mhmm
[00:46] <coolface> k click it more
[00:47] <Gr3ggaz> i have
[00:47] <police_officer> you might have to right click as well
[00:47] <coolface> click around it
[00:47] <Typos_King> lol
[00:47] <Gr3ggaz> you guys taking the piss out of me?
[00:47] <Typos_King> click it to death :P
[00:48] <Greggaz> guys i only need this quick fix >.>
[00:48] <coolface> Greggaz: why so joinquit
[00:48] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    is the ... knetworkmanager running?    I gather you're accessing it from the system settings, lemme get you a screenshot of what it'd look  like on the tray
[00:48] <coolface> oh wait
[00:48] <coolface> did you reboot after power cycling?
[00:48] <coolface> with knetworkmanager open
[00:49] <coolface> and kwifi
[00:50] <Greggaz> Typos_King, yes knetworkmanager is running
[00:50] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    can you see it on the tray?
[00:50] <coolface> hey guis
[00:50] <coolface> can i run kubuntu on a mac?
[00:51] <police_officer> i have kubuntu on a mac
[00:51] <police_officer> well did
[00:51] <police_officer> until i tripped and fell and broke it
[00:51] <Greggaz> Typos_King, found it :)
[00:51] <Greggaz> and its activating
[00:51] <Greggaz> thanks for your help Typos_King :)
[00:51] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:52] <coolface> what about me?
[00:52] <coolface> i helped
[00:52] <Greggaz> thanks coolface :D
[00:52] <coolface> np
[00:52]  * coolface 
[00:52] <Greggaz> Typos_King, all i had to do was click And add "System Tray"
[00:52] <Greggaz> gah >.> tell im a windows user
[00:53] <police_officer> hey Typos_King think you can help me with my question?
[00:53] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    btw, once online, get gnome's better heheh, -> sudo apt-get network-manager-gnome;    is what I use, much simpler and reliable
[00:53] <police_officer> okay
[00:53] <police_officer> guiz
[00:53] <Typos_King> police_officer:   if I know, sure :)
[00:53] <police_officer> so i put kubuntu on my brand new mac pro, right?
[00:53] <police_officer> works good and all for awhile
[00:54] <police_officer> then i tripped over my obese cat and fell on the mac pro and it fell over
[00:54] <police_officer> i put it back but now when i turn it on nothing happens
[00:54] <police_officer> i think i broke kubuntu
[00:54] <police_officer> what do i do now?
[00:54] <Typos_King> reinstall it :)
[00:54] <police_officer> hmm
[00:54] <police_officer> well my kubuntu disc was inside the disc drive at the time
[00:54] <police_officer> but now the drive doesn't open
[00:55] <police_officer> so i dunno if it works
[00:55] <Typos_King> ahh
[00:55] <police_officer> oh wait
[00:55] <Typos_King> the one big reason no to get apple optical drives
[00:55] <police_officer> something's happening
[00:55] <Greggaz> Typos_King, all im getting is "Preparing to connect"
[00:55] <Typos_King> they don't have a pinhole you can stick to open it
[00:55] <police_officer> k i get a bunch of stuff across my screen
[00:55] <Typos_King> Greggaz:   ok..... sooo..... wat it :)
[00:56] <police_officer> OH MY GOD WHAT THE HECK IS THAT
[00:56] <coolface> Greggaz: did you put the password in hex?
[00:56] <coolface> you have to hex for kubuntu
[00:56] <police_officer> A PICTURE OF A DEAD RABBIT IS ON MY SCREEN
[00:56] <coolface> convert
[00:56] <Greggaz> omfg wtf
[00:56] <police_officer> SOMEONE HACKED ME
[00:56] <police_officer> WHO DID IT
[00:56] <FloodBotK2> police_officer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <coolface> :O
[00:56] <Typos_King> ohhh boy
[00:57] <police_officer> someone in here hacked me
[00:57] <police_officer> i know it
[00:57] <police_officer> who did it
[00:57]  * coolface 
[00:57] <Greggaz> Typos_King, What do i have to do now?
[00:57] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    not sure on the hex part... just click on the tray icon, add a new wireless, and include your password
[00:57] <police_officer> guys
[00:57] <police_officer> seriosuly
[00:57] <police_officer> my mom's gonna be home soon
[00:57] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    did it ever connect?
[00:57] <police_officer> she'll beat me if she sees this
[00:58] <police_officer> guys
[00:58] <police_officer> this is my moms computer
[00:58] <police_officer> please
[00:58] <police_officer> she loves cats and a dead cat on her screen will make her cry
[00:58] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    "preparing to connect' is good so long the network information is corrrect you know
[00:58] <police_officer> how can i make it go away
[00:58] <Greggaz> yey it works now
[00:59] <Typos_King> Greggaz:    btw, once online, get gnome's better heheh, -> sudo apt-get network-manager-gnome;    is what I use, much simpler and reliable
[00:59] <Greggaz> ok
[01:00] <Typos_King> don't forget to do a -> sudo apt-get update; before using apt-get install :)
[01:00] <Greggaz> yah its doing its updates now
[01:04] <coolface> >implying you don't need to sudo
[01:05] <coolface> guys
[01:05] <coolface> can someone help me wiht my ubuntu?
[01:14] <antonio_> ciao!!!
[01:15] <antonio_> italia??
[01:16] <Typos_King> !it | antonio_
[03:37] <netdaemon> any tips on getting kubuntu 9.10 connected to a wireless network with a hidden essid?
[03:38] <netdaemon> iv tried adding the connection by hand, no go
[03:42] <robertzaccour> how is kde 4.4?
[03:51] <mjec> Hey all, I have a fresh 9.10 install, have just managed to get graphics card to show the right resolution (1280x1024) but KDE itself is massively zoomed in - Resolution of like 320ish, so can't do anything in the gui... ideas on how to change resolution from command line?
[03:53] <mjec> It's like I need to change the size of the desktop in px, rather than screen resolution
[03:54] <mkquist> mjec: have assistive technologies turned on?
[03:54] <mkquist> mjec: sounds like it
[03:56] <mjec> hmmm, I've managed to get a little better by genkdmconf and restarting kdm
[03:56] <mjec> mkquist: not that I can see
[03:57] <mkquist> mjec: hmm, just sounds like it, but honestly im not running kd3 desktop, so I could be wrong there
[03:57] <mkquist> mjec: just tossing that out there
[03:58] <mjec> Hmm... my screen's OSD shows that it's getting input from th graphics  card at 1280x1024, but KDM's display settings show 640x512
[04:03] <Mr_Sonoma> what would yall suggest using to view MS project files (.mpp)?
[04:04] <netdaemon> awww there doesn't appear to be a gui option to disable tap to click
[04:18] <rogue780> how do I sync kubuntu with ubunu one?
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> what do you mean sync? what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:22] <rogue780> from what I understand, ubuntu one is a cloud service that allows one to synchronize a folder with the magical cloud
[04:23] <rogue780> so that is what im trying to accomplish
[04:27] <netdaemon> well if i get tap to click disabled, i'll be happy
[04:41] <tamran> hi guys, if I installed Kubuntu 8.04 and used the latest ppa to get KDE 4.4, would this be an OK combination?
[04:44] <dthacker> hello,  I'm having some problems with a flash online game in Firefox and Kubuntu 9.10.  The game vendor is suggesting an upgrade.   How can I determine my current version and find an upgrade.
[05:00] <RelookNA> hi guyz
[05:02] <RelookNA> how do I see youtube flash movies?
[05:03] <RelookNA> using firefox
[05:03] <dthacker> !restricted
[05:04] <RelookNA> tks!
[05:09] <tamran> anyone here try using Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4.4?
[05:10] <tamran> such as using the karmic backports with it? is it too far removed?
[05:37] <xjjk> tamran: it's probably much too far removed
[05:38] <tamran> ok, thanks
[06:19] <gregg> omg - stupidest question EVER - what hotkeys do I use to switch between desktops in karmic??? Google's giving me mixed messages :i
[06:46] <tamran> hey everyone
[06:46] <tamran> if I wanted to install the alpha3 kubuntu, how would I go about that? I've got a fresh kubuntu install
[06:47] <tamran> fresh 9.10 that is
[06:57] <tamran> hello? :)
[06:58] <bazhang> tamran, lucid 10.04 ?
[07:00] <tamran> bazhang: I hope to just upgrade to it if possible, instead of downloading the ISO
[07:00] <tamran> you know ... so I can test the upgrade method
[07:00] <bazhang> tamran, it's still alpha; #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support
[07:00] <tamran> and also so I don't have to bother burning another cd :)
[07:00] <tamran> bazhang: nobody there knows the KDE command to do the upgrade
[07:01] <bazhang> tamran, that is the correct channel, just be patient
[07:01] <tamran> ok, no problem
[07:01] <tamran> I hope I can test the upgrade ... I like to find bugs :)
[07:02] <Guest32071> when does compcache hit kubuntu?
[07:08] <forest> 4to eto
[07:08] <ivan_> hi
[07:08] <forest> hi
[07:09] <ivan_> how can change themes? say chsnge to a windows 7 theme
[07:12] <forest> someone alive here?
[07:25] <amjad_> is there any kubuntu user
[07:26] <tamran> I think they're all sleeping ... shhh! :)
[07:27] <amogorkon> not me :)
[07:27] <amogorkon> but too late
[07:34] <aperson> tamran, who needs to burn a cd when you have a flash drive? :)
[07:34] <tamran> heh
[07:34] <bazhang> unetbootin should do it
[07:43] <drox> Buongiorno
[07:44] <pulaski> Hi, I trying out a new version of firefox on my kubuntu 9.10.  I had to update my sources.list with the command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable.  Instead of changing /etx/apt/sources.list the command created a new dir "sources.list.d".  I did a "sudo apt-get update".  Is this the same as adding a new repositroy to sources.list?
[07:49] <pulaski> Does anyone know of a firefox developers channel where this question may be more approiate?
[08:30] <ivan_> hi guys
[08:30] <ivan_> how can I install the bible on to my Kubuntu?
[08:32] <bazhang> !info bible-kjv
[09:02] <lalalol> hey everyone
[09:02] <Peace-> hey
[09:02] <lalalol> who's running kde 4.4.1?
[09:02] <shadeslayer> me
[09:03] <shadeslayer> lalalol: its pretty good :)
[09:03] <lalalol> k, mind helping me? :P
[09:03] <shadeslayer> lalalol: sure,whats the issue?
[09:03] <Peace-> lalalol: me
[09:04] <shadeslayer> im in a pretty good mood... getting 200KBps out of my 128 kbps connection.... :D
[09:04] <lalalol> i created a shortcut for firefox on my desktop and when i hover over it, i get this + or - thing, i disabled it in dolphin, but i cant seem to find a way to disable it on my desktop
[09:04] <lalalol> lol nice
[09:05] <shadeslayer> lalalol: ah thats the folder view widget i presume
[09:05] <shadeslayer> lalalol: you cant change that i think
[09:05] <lalalol> yeah, i use folder view cause desktop view didnt work :/
[09:05] <shadeslayer> lalalol: downloading stuff takes like 5 mins....
[09:05] <shadeslayer> lalalol: desktop view doesnt work?
[09:05] <shadeslayer> how come?
[09:05] <lalalol> yeah, i cant refresh the desktop when im on desktop view
[09:06] <lalalol> when i download to desktop view it doesnt appear, it does in the folder in dolphin though
[09:06] <shadeslayer> lalalol: actually it refreshes so quickly i cant even notice it
[09:07] <Peace-> lalalol: http://imagebin.ca/view/wkFNw-i.html
[09:08] <lalalol> Peace-, what about that screenie?
[09:09] <lalalol> Peace-, its the same time here btw, u in europe :P
[09:09] <Peace-> italy man =)
[09:09] <Peace-> i have to go
[09:09] <seawolf> hi Peace- :)
[09:10] <Peace-> bye good thing to everyone
[09:10] <lalalol> cya Peace-
[09:10] <shadeslayer> cya
[09:11] <lalalol> shadeslayer, wanna pm?
[09:11] <shadeslayer> lalalol: why?
[09:12] <lalalol> got some more problems with 4.4.1
[09:12] <shadeslayer> lalalol: in the channel then please
[09:12] <shadeslayer> i can answer here too
[09:12] <lalalol> aight, the taskbar has stripes on it
[09:13] <shadeslayer> lalalol: can you pastebin that image?
[09:13] <lalalol> shadeslayer, u know that default wallpaper that 4.4.1 brings?
[09:13] <lalalol> the baby blue one
[09:13] <shadeslayer> lalalol: its ethias
[09:13] <lalalol> yeah that one
[09:13] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:14] <lalalol> well, the taskbar has the design from it
[09:14] <shadeslayer> um thats the default theme
[09:14] <lalalol> so i cant remove those stripes?
[09:15] <shadeslayer> lalalol: just change the theme,have a look at : kde-look.org
[09:15] <lalalol> k, hold on
[09:17] <shadeslayer> lalalol: just go to : System settings > Appearence > Style > Workspace > Get new themes
[09:17] <lalalol> yeah, i took oxygen, its pretty nice
[09:17] <lalalol> but!
[09:17] <lalalol> the kickoff logo changed now >.<
[09:18] <lalalol> i always have to change that
[09:20] <lalalol> shadeslayer, is it normal that the windows still have that grey air design?
[09:20] <shadeslayer> lalalol: yep
[09:20] <lalalol> weird
[09:20] <shadeslayer> lalalol: thats the window manager
[09:20] <shadeslayer> lalalol: the theme is plasma
[09:21] <lalalol> oh thx, ill change that
[09:21] <shadeslayer> lalalol: yeah its in the same window,in appearences
[09:24] <lalalol> cant find it, which category in appearances?
[09:38] <lalalol> shadeslayer, u sure its there?
[09:40] <shadeslayer> lalalol: yeah sorry
[09:40] <shadeslayer> lalalol: i wandered off :)
[09:40] <lalalol> shadeslayer, i cant find it :S
[09:40] <shadeslayer> btw does anyone here know how to get best compression of a avi movie using tar?
[09:40] <shadeslayer> lalalol: one sec
[09:40] <lalalol> k
[09:41] <shadeslayer> lalalol: its in Windows > Win deco
[09:42] <lalalol> it says oxygen
[09:42] <shadeslayer> lalalol: yeah so change it to whatever else you like
[09:42] <lalalol> there isnt any black thing like the black oxygen taskbar
[09:43] <shadeslayer> lalalol: probably not.. try installing aurorae
[09:44] <lalalol> shadeslayer, isnt that unlogical? if u chose oxygen for the taskbar its black, but if u chose oxygen for the windows its white
[09:44] <shadeslayer> lalalol: hehe... well you can change the color if thats what you want
[09:45] <lalalol> how? :o
[09:45] <shadeslayer> lalalol: same window,colors
[09:47] <lalalol> shadeslayer, sorry i dont understand
[09:47] <lalalol> appearances, what then?
[09:47] <shadeslayer> lalalol: 2nd icon : Colors
[09:48] <lalalol> i have obsidian coast now
[09:48] <shadeslayer> lalalol: yeah thats nice
[09:48] <lalalol> gonna change the colors in quassel now tho, cuz im typing black lol
[09:50] <tamran> how does transmission client work in KDE?
[09:50] <lalalol> this theme owns!!!!!!!! i feel like im a hacker lol
[09:51] <tamran> what theme? :)
[09:52] <lalalol> obsidian coast
[09:52] <tamran> that's the theme I'm using
[09:52] <tamran> nice and dark
[09:52] <lalalol> yeah
[09:52] <lalalol> i feel like im a hacker :D
[09:52] <tamran> heh
[09:52] <tamran> it's a solid theme
[09:53] <tamran> some gnome apps get a little funny with it though
[09:53] <tamran> such as the chrome start page
[09:53] <shadeslayer> lalalol: install plasma theme glowglass cupertino
[09:53] <lalalol> chrome start page? :s
[09:54] <tamran> the browser
[09:54] <lalalol> shadeslayer, where?
[09:54] <lalalol> tamran, yeah, it still has the blue titlebar
[09:54] <tamran> the start page has white text inside if white windows ... it's a gtk inside kde issue I think
[09:55] <lalalol> woah!!!! i have skype in the same colors now
[09:55] <lalalol> im a hacker xD
[09:55] <tamran> I think you mean hax0r
[09:55] <tamran> :P
[09:59] <lalalol> shadeslayer, im searching for "glowglass cupertino" in the theme window, cant find it
[10:01] <lalalol> ffs, messed up quassel
[10:14] <lalalol> woah, kopete with the pidgin dark theme owns
[10:21] <lalalol> im feeling the power of Linux
[10:26] <lalalol> tamran, u have skype? its for a question about it
[10:35] <ToraToraTora> hello, I got problem with xpackagekit! I can't install or uninstall anything. xpackagekit says: cannot get exclusive lock.
[10:36] <Peace-> ToraToraTora: you have to kill the other process that is using root stuff
[10:37] <Peace-> i guess another istance of software installation is still alive
[10:37] <Peace-> so .
[10:37] <Peace-> or you reboot ....
[10:37] <ToraToraTora> reboot won't  help
[10:37] <Peace-> omg..
[10:37] <Peace-> man... kill the other process
[10:38] <Peace-> if you are able to find it.
[10:38] <ToraToraTora> I can't find it...
[10:38] <Peace-> so reboot.
[10:38] <ToraToraTora> eh?!
[10:38] <Peace-> please write here what it says when you type on konsole
[10:38] <Peace-> sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <Peace-> if you get the same message like exlcusive lock please reboot.
[10:39] <Peace-> that is the easier solution.
[10:40] <ToraToraTora> my boot is full
[10:41] <ToraToraTora> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:41] <Peace-> ToraToraTora: so...
[10:41] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:41] <Peace-> in konsole
[10:41] <ToraToraTora> BOOT IS FULL
[10:41] <Peace-> omg
[10:42] <ToraToraTora> ya
[10:42] <Peace-> i am giving upd with you
[10:42] <Peace-> type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:44] <ToraToraTora> gzip: stdout: No space left on device / update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-19-generic
[10:44] <ToraToraTora> so there no room on boot
[10:44] <newyork> hi
[10:45] <Peace-> ToraToraTora: so...
[10:45] <ToraToraTora> Im tring to uninstall older cores, but I can't beacause of the lock
[10:45] <Peace-> so  sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get remove somekernelimagestuff
[10:47] <newyork> guys i have a problem. in my ubuntu i can just have one audio output. for example i listening music at mpd, and as soon as i start a video with vlc player, the mpd sound turns off and i have du restart it after vlc is closed
[10:48] <ToraToraTora> what goes here -> somekernelimagestuff?
[10:48] <Peace-> ToraToraTora: the older kernel version
[10:49] <ToraToraTora> does it work just with 2.6.31-14?
[10:50] <ToraToraTora> sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get remove 2.6.31-14 ?
[11:17] <malic> Can i copy my home folder to an external drive and access it with a mac? Or are there problems with the rights?
[11:17] <cuznt> not sure
[11:17] <cuznt> i can get all files on my pc that are windows
[11:17] <cuznt> but not the other way around
[11:18] <cuznt> as per on windowz i can not see my kubuntu shares
[11:19] <cuznt> still an external drive seems fine.. that should work. does mac have special naming properties?
[11:26] <lalalol> tamran, u there?
[11:30] <lalalol> hi, im having a problem with kopete, in certain chats the text i type gets highlighted and in other chats it doesnt, who can explain that?
[11:33] <srdjan> any idea why xsane segfaults when starting up?
[11:35] <Peace-> srdjan: xane? use skanlite
[11:36] <srdjan> why?
[11:36] <srdjan> is it better?
[11:36] <Peace-> easier for kde ...
[11:36] <Peace-> no need of xane here .
[11:37] <srdjan> ok thanks. installed it - will plug in the printer after i have breakfast :)
[11:38] <Peace-> :)
[11:39] <lalalol> Peace-, can u help me?
[11:39] <Peace-> lalalol: sorry man i don't use kopete so much
[11:40] <lalalol> k
[11:55] <tolbazy> тест
[11:58] <lalalol> ive discovered already 15 bugs when just playing with themes
[12:02] <lalalol> why doesnt my theme change when i click apply?
[12:12] <lalalol> help, why doesnt my theme change?
[12:14] <shadeslayer> lalalol: which theme?
[12:15] <lalalol> shadeslayer, i installed glowglass and i cant change back to oxygen
[12:15] <shadeslayer> lemme try
[12:15] <lalalol> no dont try it or ur stuck too
[12:15] <shadeslayer> im already on glowglass
[12:15] <lalalol> oh
[12:15] <shadeslayer> works here
[12:15] <lalalol> :s
[12:16] <dany> hi all
[12:16] <lalalol> how do u remove a theme btw?
[12:16] <dany> I have a pavilion dv5 and I don't succeed to suspend to ram, I got only a screen block, I mean, the pc doesn't suspend, it only makes the screen black and if I move the mouse there is a login prompt
[12:16] <shadeslayer> lalalol: dunno :)
[12:16] <lalalol> :'(
[12:16] <shadeslayer> lalalol: try googling
[12:16] <lalalol> didnt find anything
[12:17] <shadeslayer> lalalol: hmm... weird... i cant change back to glowglass
[12:17] <shadeslayer> or any of the other themes
[12:17] <lalalol> see!?
[12:18] <lalalol> glowglass messes up
[12:18] <shadeslayer> lalalol: i thought you said i could not change to oxygen
[12:18] <shadeslayer> i cant change back to glowglass
[12:18] <lalalol> but u have the same problem, u cant change themes anymore
[12:18] <shadeslayer> got a idea
[12:18] <lalalol> sudo apt-get remove glowglass-theme-pack?
[12:18] <dany> any idea?
[12:19] <shadeslayer> lalalol: nope
[12:19] <lalalol> what then?
[12:19] <shadeslayer> hold on
[12:20] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:20] <shadeslayer> got ot to change
[12:20] <shadeslayer> *it
[12:20] <lalalol> tell me plz
[12:20] <shadeslayer> lalalol: ok do this,click on the theme you want to apply
[12:20] <lalalol> ok
[12:20] <shadeslayer> lalalol: click apply and open a terminal
[12:21] <shadeslayer> lalalol: now type : killall plasma-desktop
[12:21] <shadeslayer> lalalol: now type : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
[12:22] <shadeslayer> lalalol: after its done type : plasma-desktop : and voila!
[12:22] <lalalol> ok
[12:23] <shadeslayer> its a problem with the cache
[12:23] <lalalol> awesome, gotta go to the toilet now
[12:23] <shadeslayer> dunno if cupertino is responsible or kde
[12:29] <dany> no one?
[12:35] <shadeslayer> btw i want transperent borders,how do i get those?
[13:14] <lalalol> Oxymoron, !!!!!!!!!!
[13:14] <lalalol> hey
[13:15] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Hey?
[13:17] <lalalol> found any new awesome theme?
[13:17] <lalalol> or made one?
[13:21] <lalalol> wb shadeslayer
[13:22] <lalalol> shadeslayer, i got some more problems with my system, i once installed a language and removed it but some apps still remain in that language
[13:23] <Benkinooby> hi, i wanted to make a button for starting vlc with with a certain radio stream. i drag&dropped it from the kmenu to the plasma workspace, righklicked -> "icon settings"   -> "application"-> and replaced "vlc %U" witch "vlc http:// streamaddress" in the Command field. the icon shanged from the vlc symbol to question mark. when i changed back to "vlc %U" it stayed like this an
[13:23] <Benkinooby> and vlc is to be found in lost&found in the kmenu instead of multimedia
[13:23] <Benkinooby> i reinstalled, no change
[13:24] <lalalol> Benkinooby, if you want to make a shortcut on your desktop i can help
[13:25] <Benkinooby> lalalol: for this, i have no problem. what troubles me is that the vlc is not recognized as "vlc" anymore.
[13:25] <Benkinooby> lalalol: it doesnt use the icon anymore and is not listed in the multmedia part of kmenu
[13:25] <lalalol> so it works but the icon is missing?
[13:26] <lalalol> Benkinooby, right click it, properties, then click that question mark and search for the icon, select it, hit ok, hit ok, and done
[13:26] <Benkinooby> lalalol: yes. and additionally it is not listed in multimedia.
[13:26] <Benkinooby> lalalol: i allrdy tried this... cant find the right icon
[13:26] <shadeslayer> lalalol: ah that can happen,system cache hasnt been refreshed
[13:26] <lalalol> Benkinooby, yeah, i cant help with the last one sorry
[13:27] <lalalol> Benkinooby, make sure you choose the right category
[13:27] <shadeslayer> ok ill brb
[13:27] <lalalol> shadeslayer, how do i completely uninstall it then?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> lalalol: uninstall what?
[13:27] <lalalol> the language
[13:27] <Benkinooby> lalalol: the strange thing, is that after reinstall of vlc, the prob is still there
[13:28] <shadeslayer> lalalol: you already have it uninstalled,if apt-get says so,just refresh system cache,close all apps and logout and login
[13:28] <lalalol> Benkinooby, you sure you took the right category?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> lalalol: like i said its the system cache.. kde has a system cache in /var
[13:28] <lalalol> shadeslayer, ive done that, even rebooted a lot of times cause its been a week ago or so
[13:29] <shadeslayer> lalalol: oh..ok try removing it via aptitude and then check via dpkg -l | grep name ,
[13:29] <shadeslayer> lalalol: ill brb
[13:30] <Benkinooby> lalalol: yes, i started with application category but nothing to be found. but still i am confused, because the completely removed vlc and reinstalled, and still the prob exists
[13:30] <lalalol> Benkinooby, then im afraid i cant help, sorry
[13:30] <Benkinooby> :/
[13:30] <lalalol> try google or so
[13:32] <Benkinooby> lalalol: can you tell me the content of your folder /home/<username>/.local/share/applications ?
[13:32] <lalalol> sure, just a sec
[13:33] <lalalol> a folder of wine, "defaults.list", and then some wine files
[13:34] <Benkinooby> no vlc.desktop?
[13:34] <lalalol> i dont have vlc
[13:34] <lalalol> Benkinooby, try to make a shortcut for lets say firefox
[13:35] <lalalol> if you have that installed?
[13:35] <Benkinooby> hahaha, it worked
[13:35] <lalalol> ?
[13:36] <Benkinooby> i just removed the file /home/<username>/.local/share/applications/vlc.desktop
[13:36] <lalalol> lol
[13:36] <lalalol> hey shadeslayer
[13:36] <Benkinooby> it seems that this folder contains all the "extra" setting i do
[13:36] <Benkinooby> so it falls back to default, when i remove it
[13:36] <lalalol> and you still have lost & found in your kmenu?
[13:36] <lalalol> do you*
[13:37] <Benkinooby> lalalol: no, it's gone
[13:37] <lalalol> :o
[13:37] <Benkinooby> everything is back to normal
[13:37] <Benkinooby> :D
[13:37] <Benkinooby> l love love love linux (especially kubuntu)!!!!
[13:38] <lalalol> :)
[13:38] <paul_> greets peepe
[13:38] <paul_> peeps :)
[13:39] <lalalol> bbs
[13:44] <JediMaster> ok, stupid question, what's the name of the installer on the kubuntu live cd?
[13:45] <JediMaster> there's no link on the desktop to start it up ("The process for the desktop protocol died unexpectedly")
[13:47] <lalalol> wubi.exe i think
[13:51] <JediMaster> I mean the linux based installer that is meant to be on the desktop
[13:55] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: you got the live cd up and running, and now u want to install?
[13:56] <JediMaster> indeed
[13:59] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: check the menus.
[14:01] <chadkister> I need help ubdating ubuntu
[14:02] <chadkister> I get this error message:
[14:02] <chadkister> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[14:02] <chadkister> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[14:02] <chadkister> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[14:02] <chadkister> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/Release
[14:02] <chadkister> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/Release
[14:02] <FloodBotK1> chadkister: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <chadkister> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release
[14:02] <chadkister> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:03] <Benkinooby> chadkister: hey mister, use pastebin or something...
[14:03] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: when you boot from cd, you can choose to install straight away
[14:04] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=select_install.jpg
[14:05] <JediMaster> Benkinooby, yeah think I just walked away and let it select the top option by default
[14:05] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: np
[14:05] <JediMaster> the machine was painfully slow so didn't want to go and reboot it lol
[14:05] <JediMaster> 256mb ram...
[14:05] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: when it is slow, you can also do an alternate install
[14:05] <JediMaster> yeah may do thanks
[14:06] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: the alternate version is made for older/slower pc, maybe you think about using it
[14:06] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: you can also use xubuntu
[14:06] <chadkister> I did paste sorry this is my first time using this chat
[14:07] <Benkinooby> chadkister: no problem, just next time think of it... also, the bot will not care about it and will kick joun ;)
[14:07] <Benkinooby> you
[14:07] <JediMaster> just need to set it up as a print server, does xubuntu have any of the graphical setup for the printers?
[14:08] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/index.html this is to set up alternate install, maybe you have a look at it
[14:09] <JediMaster> yeah used it a few times years ago, thanks
[14:10] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: ubuntu is a little bit heavy for just beeing a print server... all the stuff that comes with ubuntu... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/whats-the-best-distro-for-a-home-fileprint-server-w-windows-clients-521763/?s=fd658e34f78132892aaf9455645a92fa
[14:11] <Benkinooby> chadkister: hmm... i try to find out more about your issue
[14:13] <Benkinooby> JediMaster: xfce has a graphical interface for printer setup
[14:45] <RaGNORAK> hi i kind of lost my task bar partially
[14:45] <RaGNORAK> i can't find the programs that are running
[14:46] <RaGNORAK> http://ask-leo.com/why_dont_running_programs_show_in_my_taskbar.html               <------------this sums up my problem but in kubuntu
[14:46] <RaGNORAK> can someone help?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> RaGNORAK: just a moment
[14:48] <shadeslayer> RaGNORAK: ok press the cashew icon on the far left of the taskbar and click add widgets
[14:48] <RaGNORAK> ok
[14:48] <RaGNORAK> which widget to add?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> RaGNORAK: search for task bar
[14:48] <shadeslayer> taskmanager i mean
[14:48] <shadeslayer> then drag the widget and drop it into the panel
[14:48] <RaGNORAK> awesome thanks
[14:49] <shadeslayer> RaGNORAK: yaw
[14:49] <RaGNORAK> now to fix that sucker in place so my cousin doesnt remove it again >_>
[14:50] <shadeslayer> RaGNORAK: hmm lock widgets
[14:51] <shadeslayer> use the cashew again :)
[14:52] <RaGNORAK> ya found that one alright
[14:52] <RaGNORAK> ty
[14:52] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:57] <loki87> hey ;)
[14:58] <loki87> how can i access my blackberry 8120 mediadate like music,phontos eg
[15:21] <reanimation> #youtube_ipl
[15:21] <reanimation> check this cahannel once plz
[15:27] <abhifx_> hi there! i am having a major problem while installing nvidia drivers. can someone help me plz?
[15:28] <schweegi> how can i entrace in the ubuntu irc channel ?
[15:38] <otswim> i got device busy when doing a speaker-test; what would i restart to make it work again?
[15:38] <MacMan_it> abhifx_: have you tried using envyng? it will do the installation for you
[15:41] <abhifx_> MacMan_it, my problem is more severe
[15:42] <abhifx_> its a bit long, if u r ready to help then let me explain
[15:48] <srdjan> why is resizing kde 4.x plasma widgets so *slow* ?
[16:16] <DarkSam> plop
[17:08] <RaGNORAK> hi, how do you create a new user ?
[17:08] <KiRiLoS> Hello, i am having some trouble with skype.I get this error when i run it:     bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) , the problem is that other people cant hear me but my mic works great with other apps.Thanks
[17:08] <RaGNORAK> i can't seem to find users and groups
[17:08] <KiRiLoS> RaGNORAK, Kmenu->System Settings->Advanced->User Managment
[17:11] <faultline> How do I install a .deb file?
[17:12] <KiRiLoS> faultline, you double click it.
[17:14] <RaGNORAK> KiRiLoS:  ty got it
[17:15] <KiRiLoS> RaGNORAK, nope
[17:30] <Guest99683> lol
[17:30] <Benkinooby> hi, i am trying to get the differernce of themes/styles, window decorations and aurorae in kde.
[17:31] <Guest99683> wow
[17:31] <mefisto__> aurorae?
[17:31] <Benkinooby> themes and styles are for the general appearance like plasma, system bar and so on
[17:31] <Benkinooby> mefisto__: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=81&PHPSESSID=0e48bbf2f384dd82e0f4965aaf552e19
[17:32] <Guest99683> umi tadz nekdo cesky
[17:34] <Benkinooby> hmmm. when i cange the theme/style the windows don't change.. so the window decorations are for the windows.
[17:49] <spirov92> hi, just installed kubuntu, and it has some ati drivers, but they're awfully slow in combination with compiz
[17:50] <spirov92> they make the Xorg process take up like 60% CPU when I move a window or something
[17:50] <spirov92> I had the same problem on openSUSE, btw
[17:50] <spirov92> can anyone help?
[17:53] <spirov92> even with non-compositing kwin, it takes up lots of CPU when I move windows
[17:55] <spirov92> btw is there a GUI for setting up mount points for devices?
[17:56] <spirov92> I'm totally new to kubuntu
[17:58] <mefisto__> spirov92: mountmanager is one. there may be others available too
[17:59] <spirov92> mefisto__: thanks
[18:05] <CartoonCat> Hellos
[18:06] <CartoonCat> Im having a issue with getting my Cannon A310 to show up. anyone know much about getting cams to work? It worked in gentoo with KDE just fine so i know it does work
[18:07] <faultline> How do I find the directory of a program
[18:07] <CartoonCat> faultline: you mean like where it is installed at, or, like where it stores its save information
[18:08] <faultline> Installed at like....
[18:08] <faultline> I wanna do wine home/faultline/ect
[18:08] <faultline> See if it makes it work better
[18:10] <CartoonCat> faultline: wine holds stuff in /home/<yourusername>/.wine/
[18:10] <CartoonCat> and its not going to make it work better
[18:10] <faultline> I dont see a .wine folder
[18:10] <faultline> Well
[18:10] <faultline> This is what occurs
[18:11] <CartoonCat> anything with a . first is hidden
[18:11] <CartoonCat> its there
[18:11] <faultline> I start cohupdater by double clicking from the button...it locks on the updater
[18:11] <faultline> Was gonna see if running it through terminal would make it run
[18:11] <CartoonCat> ok, for THAT you want to do:
[18:12] <CartoonCat> cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Pro <press tab>/
[18:13] <CartoonCat> then ls, and figure out where CoH is at, its likely under a the manuf name then Coh
[18:14] <CartoonCat> then you do wine appname.exe
[18:14] <faultline> I found it its like /home/faultline/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/City of Heroes/cohupdater.exe
[18:14] <CartoonCat> ok, so you need to do:
[18:14] <CartoonCat> cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Cit <press tab> <press enter>
[18:14] <CartoonCat> then wine cohupdater.exe
[18:15] <faultline> Do I need to complete that line you made?
[18:15] <faultline> Or basic copy and paste rofl
[18:15] <CartoonCat> thats what pressing tab should do
[18:15] <CartoonCat> cause you need to escape the spaces
[18:16] <faultline> escape te spaces?
[18:16] <faultline> And it says no such file or directory...
[18:16] <CartoonCat> linux doesnt handle spaces in file names/paths the same as windows does
[18:16] <faultline> O.o
[18:16] <CartoonCat> the space means "new command or argument to the previous command" basicly
[18:16] <CartoonCat> ok try
[18:17] <CartoonCat> cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/City" "of" "Heroes/
[18:17] <faultline> im sorry I am very new to kubuntu rofl
[18:17] <CartoonCat> that is ok
[18:17] <faultline> Same problem
[18:17] <faultline> O.o
[18:17] <CartoonCat> erm
[18:17] <faultline> Do i need to make it ProgramFiles?
[18:18] <CartoonCat> DOH~!
[18:18] <faultline> instead of Program Files
[18:18] <CartoonCat> cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program" "Files/City" "of" "Heroes/
[18:18] <CartoonCat> gotta escape THAT space too
[18:19] <mefisto__> either enclose the whole lot with quotes, or put a \ (the escape character) before each space
[18:19] <faultline> Error calling setsockopt, ending socket buffer size is not what we told it! (131072!=262142)
[18:19] <faultline> O.o
[18:19] <CartoonCat> faultline: thats from running wine cohupdater?
[18:19] <nonameNN> the only way to configure desktop zoom with kwin is using the keyboard¡
[18:19] <mefisto__> eg, "Program Files" or Program\ Files
[18:20] <nonameNN> i meant, we cant use the mouse for zooming the desktop?
[18:20] <CartoonCat> ah that works too, tab competion doesnt work right with it so i never do it that way
[18:20] <faultline> lol...
[18:20] <faultline> Yeah CartoonCat.
[18:20] <faultline> Any clue what that error means
[18:21] <CartoonCat> yea wine screwed up the networking support, again
[18:21] <CartoonCat> iirc thats the same error i got for divine divinity back at 1.0
[18:22] <mefisto__> faultline: something to try: wine emulates WinXP environment by default. changing that to another version of windows (eg win98) may work
[18:22] <CartoonCat> assuming it ever worked for you, your best bet is to update to latest or downgrade to the last known working version
[18:23] <CartoonCat> ah that could work if the app detects the os and does its networking diffrently based on that
[18:23] <CartoonCat> with DD, it wasnt a option
[18:25] <faultline> O,o
[18:25] <faultline> How can i fix this...lol....
[18:25] <faultline> Im a dumbass to linux
[18:26] <CartoonCat> well do like mefisto__said, change the default os it runs as
[18:26] <CartoonCat> type winecfg
[18:27] <faultline> How thought rofl....oh wait terminal>winecfg?
[18:27] <CartoonCat> change the os from xp to 2k or vista
[18:27] <CartoonCat> ya
[18:27] <faultline> It was on vista, so I just set it back to xp lol
[18:28] <faultline> Still the same issue
[18:28] <CartoonCat> faultline: try them all
[18:29] <faultline> xp, vista, 2000 no go, gonna try the older versions, but not sure coh will worlk
[18:29] <mefisto__> faultline: wine is always hit and miss. you could search for the program on appdb.winehq.org for tips on getting it to work
[18:30] <faultline> Tried this
[18:30] <faultline> no works lol nothing about my issue
[18:32] <mefisto__> faultline: what version of wine? did you install from ubuntu repo or the winehq repo?
[18:33] <faultline> I think I just did sudo apt-get wine or something lol not sure on version
[18:33] <faultline> How do I find out
[18:33] <mefisto__> faultline: in konsole, wine --version
[18:34] <faultline> 1.1.40
[18:34] <tamran> hello, what is nepomuk?
[18:36] <faultline> Mefisto__ it is version 1.1.40...:/  Should I uninstall that and then install and older version?
[18:36] <tamran> and what is Virtuoso Soprano plugin?
[18:37] <faultline> Apparently 1.1.39 is silver
[18:37] <mefisto__> faultline: it's something you could try, but my guess is it won't be any better
[18:37] <faultline> How can I uninstall stuff lol... O.o
[18:38] <mefisto__> faultline: sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
[18:39] <faultline> Alrighty....but yeah, 1.1.31 is GOLD to CoH
[18:39] <faultline> So how abouts 1.0.1 or whatever that is most stable?
[18:40] <noaXess> is there a way to simple restart sound?
[18:44] <mefisto__> noaXess: sudo service alsa-utils restart
[18:45] <faultline> When I remove wine will it remove the programs and the games I have installed?  Its fine if it does rofl...maybe this will make Requiem work
[18:46] <mefisto__> faultline: no it won't. if you want that, use purge instead of remove, or just delete the .wine folder that holds all the programs and wine settings
[18:48] <faultline> How do I change the network settings in wine?
[18:50] <faultline> Still getting same errors as before- I have tried all the windows versions, and all the variant versions of wine,...
[18:52] <mefisto__> faultline: might want to try asking in #winehq channel
[18:53] <noaXess> mefisto__: aha. okay... wil try that
[19:05] <spirov92> hi, how do I include ~/bin in bash search paths?
[19:06] <spirov92> will it work if I add ~/bin to $PATH in /etc/profile?
[19:07] <ToraToraTora> Help! I get HDMI audio output from system setting sound test button, but none from any other program ??
[19:13] <wizkoder> I search for a program that checks my email every minute and when the subject matches a search text notifies me. dies this exist for kde?
[19:13] <spirov92> wizkoder: maybe some filter trick in kmail?
[19:14] <spirov92> (thought I prefer thunderbird)
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[19:29] <tamran> howdy everyone
[19:29] <tamran> what is nepomuk? and why do I need it? is that some kind of indexing service?
[19:29] <human> Gentlemen, who knows, how korrectly organize the keyboard layout switching in KDE 3.5?
[19:30] <human> I want to type Finnish, Czech and English, but I can do it only through Ctrl + 1 not from CTrl + Shift or other normal kombinations.
[19:31] <mefisto__> tamran: you don't need it. it lets you do searches for file contents, emails, contacts, tagged images, etc
[19:31] <tamran> how do I stop KDE from bugging me about it?
[19:31] <mefisto__> tamran: bugging you how?
[19:32] <human> tamran, how?
[19:32] <islington> is there a way to manually add my ipod touch to amarok; currently I am using gtkpod to sync it after installing the whole iFuse thing.
[19:32] <tamran> well, when I boot up the information applet gives me an error
[19:32] <tamran> also, pulseaudio gives me an error
[19:33] <human> wow
[19:34] <mefisto__> tamran: you can disable nepomuk in systemsettings, advanced tab
[19:34] <human> tamran, it have begun after the installation from CD of after upgrade?
[19:34] <tamran> after upgrade
[19:34] <human> tamran, it is hard
[19:34] <tamran> I upgraded from 9.10 to lucid last night/this morning
[19:35]  * tamran is going to disable nepomuk
[19:35] <mefisto__> tamran: it might be called desktop search, don't really know in lucid
[19:36] <tamran> yeah, it's desktop search ... typed nepomuk in search and that was the only icon left with color
[19:36] <tamran> man, this KDE install uses much less ram than the gnome install
[19:36] <tamran> like 150mb less
[19:36] <human> tamran, it is famous feature of ubuntu. I have had totally fallen system for two times after upgrade. Try to create new user and watch it is happens with new account. Maybe the cause is your settings from previous versions
[19:36] <tamran> I think it might be a little more cpu intensive out of the box, but quite impressive
[19:37] <human> ?
[19:37] <human> Who are using KDE 3.5?
[19:37] <tamran> human: perhaps, I just did the following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8961374#post8961374
[19:38] <human> tamran: it is alpha
[19:40] <tamran> human: of course, but I feel someone needs to step up and test such upgrades.
[19:44] <mefisto__> tamran: you might want to use do-release-upgrade next time you upgrade. look at the --help for options
[19:46] <tamran> mefisto__: oh? I didn't know that was an option, thanks for the tip!
[19:47] <spirov92> where can I see the exact model of my graphics card? I can't remember what it was
[19:47] <tamran> mefisto__: can I try that option now?
[19:48] <tamran> or will it bork my system?
[19:48] <tamran> ... I guess I'm curious what other steps are missing by doing it the manual way?
[19:52] <ToraToraTora> Help! I get HDMI audio output from system setting sound test button, but none from any program?
[19:53] <mefisto__> tamran: it probably won't work if you're already running lucid
[19:53] <felipe_crimson> hi guys. whats the package name for thats basics games like solitaire?
[19:53] <tamran> mefisto__: is there a way to find out what it did to clean up and such?
[19:54] <mefisto__> tamran: don't know
[19:54] <tamran> mefisto__: can you confirm that the command would be: sudo do-dist-upgrade -m desktop
[19:55] <mefisto__> spirov92: lshw -c display
[19:55] <tamran> I'll reply to that forum post to help others
[19:56] <spirov92> mefisto__: thanks
[19:57] <mefisto__> tamran: that should work (but it's do-release-upgrade) and to upgrade to lucid you would need the -d switch too, since it's not officially released yet
[19:59] <spirov92> I'm currently fighting the ati drivers. the proprietary one seems to not support my card, and radeon takes up 40% CPU when I move a window. can anyone help?
[19:59] <mefisto__> tamran: I would also do the upgrade in a virtual terminal instead of konsole, just to be safer (no X crashes or freezes)
[20:01] <wizkoder> I installed kbiff as mail notifier. works so far. But I need it to inform me only on mails with a soecific subject. is that possible?
[20:05] <tamran> thanks a bunch mefisto__, I posted a quick note at the end and edited my post
[20:14] <spirov92> when I turn on compiz, the plasma desktop goes black. panel's still fine. can anyone help?
[20:14] <spirov92> also asked in #compiz, no reply yet tho
[20:16] <felipe_crimson> whats the package name for the VMWARE (virtual machine)?
[20:16] <felipe_crimson> is available on kubuntu?
[20:16] <mefisto__> spirov92: maybe plasma-desktop has crashed? alt-F2 and type plasma-desktop to start it
[20:17] <spirov92> mefisto__: no, tried that, and the panel is still visible
[20:17] <human> felipe crimson: use qtemu and qemu in Kubuntu
[20:17] <human> not vmware is for windows
[20:18] <human> felipe_crimson: sudo aptitude install qtemu
[20:19] <human> felipe_crimson you will be able to create virtual machines and run different operation systems in them
[20:19] <felipe_crimson> I'll try that, thanks anyway. I use to know the vmware
[20:20] <felipe_crimson> human: I'm using the kubuntu and gnu/linux for a short time. thanks for the advices
[20:20] <villemv> virtualbox is what you are "supposed to" use
[20:23] <felipe_crimson> human:  how I configure the qtemu?
[20:23] <human> felipe_crimson, have you installed that?
[20:23] <felipe_crimson> human: yes. I'm trying to run windows xp for a test. and says: "no bootable device"
[20:24] <human> felipe_crimson, you must launch QtEmu
[20:25] <human> felipe_crimson press "create new machine", set the boot option from CD image, set virtual HDD size and start the machine
[20:26] <felipe_crimson> human: I already do that. then one mensage says: no bootable device
[20:27] <human> felipe_crimson, you are trying to boot from CD?
[20:27] <felipe_crimson> human: no.
[20:27] <human> felipe_crimson, CD-image?
[20:28] <lalalol> who can help please? a week or so ago i installed a language on my system, removed it, but some apps are still in that removed language, during that week i have prob "rebooted" like 6 times
[20:28] <felipe_crimson> human: no. I just choose  the option windows xp then I push the start button
[20:29] <human> felipe_crimson, have the bootable CD?
[20:29] <felipe_crimson> human: no.
[20:30] <felipe_crimson> human: Do I have to install the windows xp with a cd, right?
[20:30] <felipe_crimson> human: I think the qtemu already have the windows xp installed.
[20:31] <human> felipe_crimson, yes you cannot start virtual machine without it, it is true form qtemu and vmware. Virtual Machine works with bootable CD like you install OS to you computer. Virtual Machine creates virtual computer(hardware) you can work with, but now virtual SOFTWARE
[20:31] <felipe_crimson> human: ok. thanks.
[20:31] <srdjan> grr wtf. is flash/firefox/youtube broken again? I just get a grey box where the video is supposed to be...
[20:32] <human> felipe_crimson, when you set the option windows xp, you show it to the virtual machine for creating more compartibility, such as virtual sound cards and virtual network cards
[20:34] <human> felipe_crimson if you want to start windows applications in linux you should use Wine. Many applications and games for windows work with it, such as Quake, World of Warcraft and others, but not all.
[20:34] <felipe_crimson> human: I know that, the wine is already installed here, but thanks anyway
[20:35] <human> felipe_crimson, ok, excuse me, I am going to sleep, it is 23:34 in my city
[20:35] <human> Good luck, gentlemen!
[20:37] <sithlord48> why are people so scared of linux ?
[20:37] <srdjan> sithlord48: because of what Capt Kirk said
[20:37] <sithlord48> ?
[20:39] <sithlord48> srdjan, i don't get it ..
[20:39] <srdjan> sithlord48: hang on - trying to find the clip on youtube
[20:39] <sithlord48> ok
[20:41] <sithlord48> brb , got to restart kde
[20:42] <boesmans> hello all <o
[20:42] <sithlord48> ok back
[20:43] <sithlord48> srdjan, do you know what epsoide its from ?
[20:44] <srdjan> sithlord48: undiscovered country
[20:44] <sithlord48> ok do u know about when in the ep?
[20:45] <boesmans> Hey guys
[20:45] <sithlord48> boesmans , what up ?
[20:45] <srdjan> sithlord48: right at the end when Kirk addresses madam chancellor of the Klingon empire
[20:45] <boesmans> had a week off, still looking for a way to get my dekstop back.. I mean, i have the Showdesktop widget, but it shows my desktop.. before i messed up, when i was on my desktop i had always a window showing what i dl to my desktop.. now i don't have that anymore?
[20:46] <sithlord48> you can all a folder view widget to you desktop and point it to you download folder
[20:47] <srdjan> sithlord48:  "People can be very frightened of change."
[20:47] <cvd> thats the fun of linux, tryin to repair things
[20:47] <sithlord48> srdjan, lol was looking for a bit more of that but yea
[20:47] <srdjan> :)
[20:47] <sithlord48> its not all bad after a while you learn how to not break things
[20:48] <srdjan> yes but sometimes things break on your behalf
[20:48] <srdjan> like crappy firefox
[20:48] <cvd> excatly
[20:48] <sithlord48> whats broken in firefox..
[20:49] <sithlord48> cause it seams to work fine over here
[20:49] <srdjan> I could not play any videos on youtube. just got a gray box instead of the video player. killed firefox and restared and its working fine again.
[20:50] <sithlord48> thats flash crashed..
[20:50] <srdjan> firefox is also painfully slow with javascript
[20:50] <sithlord48> not firefoxes falut..
[20:50] <cvd> who use firefox after chrome is out
[20:50] <sithlord48> i guess that depends on that java you have... don't seam to show here
[20:50] <sithlord48> people use chrome really?
[20:50] <srdjan> not java, javascript
[20:51] <cvd> i dont even remember firefox
[20:51] <sithlord48> i don't notice..
[20:51] <sithlord48> i think i have chrome installed but i havent' fiddled with it much , been using opera mostly
[20:52] <cvd> i dont like about Opera is the stupid widgets and not extension
[20:52] <sithlord48> i don't like it that much either
[20:52] <cvd> like firefox or chrome
[20:52] <boesmans> someone?
[20:53] <sithlord48> boesmans, right click on desktop add widget choose folder view ,
[20:53] <sithlord48> boesmans, that will add one to your desktop, i persume this is what you talking about, you may have to config it futher by using the wrench icon on its handle when u mouse over the edge.
[20:55] <boesmans> thanks sithlord48 ^^ it was that, show desktop folder then
[20:55] <boesmans> thanks
[20:55] <sithlord48> cvd, i like FF too, but i have been trying to use opera see if i can adjust to it or a really just don't like it
[20:55] <sithlord48> boesmans, np...
[21:05] <tamran> anyone notice a color issue using qtcurve theme for gtk apps?
[21:06] <Tm_T> tamran: what color issue?
[21:07] <tamran> well, what should be a dark/black color is showing up as white
[21:07] <Tm_T> hmm
[21:07] <tamran> google chrome browser shows the issue quite nicely if you have the "obsidian coast" theme
[21:07] <Tm_T> I see only black here, yes, only black (:
[21:08] <tamran> and set chrome to use gtk theme
[21:08] <tamran> I think just one color gets forgotten ... so I've got white text with white background.
[21:09] <tamran> the color is the one connected to the border color of back windows ...
[21:09] <tamran> err, inactive windows
[21:09] <tamran> other than that, it's perfect :)
[21:09] <tamran> if I use a white/light theme, I have no issues
[21:10] <tamran> I'm sure it was just a forgotten link somewhere
[21:10] <charles__> need hlp with browser
[21:12] <charles__> is there any updates for this Browser????
[21:12] <sithlord48> does any one know if ssd "trim" is supported w/ karmic
[21:13] <tamran> here's a better question ... how can I find out the details of what the gtk theme setup does?
[21:14] <charles__> new to thos
[21:14] <charles__> new to this
[21:18] <lalalol> tamran, have you restarted chrome?...
[21:18] <tamran> lalalol: yeah, it's persistent
[21:19] <lalalol> weird
[21:19] <tamran> it's not such a huge deal, and only affects "dark" themes (light text on dark background)
[21:19] <tamran> I know the color it's having an issue with
[21:20] <tamran> the border color for inactive windows
[21:20] <tamran> lalalol: do you have chrome working ok?
[21:21] <lalalol> tamran, i use Iron
[21:21] <tamran> what's iron?
[21:21] <tamran> is that a different build of chrome?
[21:21] <boesmans> bah i did something stupid again... while right clickin at the bottom of my screen, i click add panel twice.. now when i maximalize a window, it doesn't fill my whole screen :p
[21:21] <lalalol> google chrome without the monitoring from google
[21:21] <boesmans> fixed it tho, but i need to stop clickin everything i see :D
[21:22] <lalalol> tamran, i advise chromium though, but with all google features turned off
[21:22] <tamran> the only thing I really like about that is the syncing of bookmarks
[21:22] <tamran> last time I tried chromium it was aweful
[21:22] <lalalol> you used the PPA?
[21:22] <tamran> is there a kde-dressed version of it? that would be great
[21:23] <tamran> lalalol: you mean the google ppa?
[21:23] <lalalol> unfortunately not :(
[21:23] <lalalol> no, the chromium-browser ppa
[21:23] <tamran> I believe I did
[21:23] <lalalol> it auto updates
[21:23] <tamran> but have wiped this machine SOOOO many times since then
[21:23] <lalalol> strange, i didnt experience any bugs with it
[21:23] <tamran> well, it was the fonts and such
[21:23] <tamran> they SUUUUCKED :)
[21:24] <mefisto__> lalalol: so there's chrome, chromium, AND iron?
[21:24] <tamran> is chromium cleaner than chrome?
[21:24] <lalalol> the only thing chrome is better than chromium and iron is the h.624 codec or so, to get html5 working on YT
[21:24] <tamran> I mean, less resource hungry and such
[21:24] <lalalol> mefisto__, yes
[21:24] <lalalol> its the same tamran
[21:24] <tamran> dang, I use the html5 youtube beta
[21:25] <tamran> I'm curious about this "Iron" program
[21:25] <mefisto__> tamran: chromium uses slightly less ram, last time I compared the two
[21:25] <lalalol> then youll want to wait till that codec gets standard built into chromium and iron
[21:25] <lalalol> oh my bad, i thought it was the same
[21:25] <lalalol> tamran, SRWare Iron
[21:26] <tamran> mefisto__: does it do syncing of bookmarks and such?
[21:26] <tamran> errr, better question:
[21:26] <lalalol> yeah it does
[21:26] <mefisto__> tamran: yes it syncs bookmarks
[21:26] <tamran> can I run chromium and chrome side by side with no issues?
[21:26] <mefisto__> tamran: yes, I have both installed and both can run simultaneously
[21:27] <tamran> ok, I'll check out chromium ...
[21:27] <tamran> thanks guys, great help :)
[21:28] <lalalol> yw :)
[21:28] <lalalol> tamran, can you answer this since youre using the html5 beta? have you experienced any issues with the beta?
[21:29] <tamran> lalalol: yeah, a couple.  1st thing is that it shows 100% loaded on the progress bar immediately, even though it's not
[21:29] <tamran> that said, html5 runs nicer, even though it doesn't use less resources
[21:30] <lalalol> say what?
[21:30] <lalalol> it doesnt use less resources?
[21:30] <tamran> the second issue is that it doesn't eliminate flash on all videos, for example if there is an advert in the video it goes to the flash version
[21:30] <tamran> lalalol: nah, not at all ... it's the same CPU wise
[21:30] <lalalol> do you have a flashblocker? then it might always do html5 i think
[21:31] <lalalol> huh? thats weird
[21:31] <tamran> if I "extract" the video to my hard drive locally and play it, it uses half the resources
[21:31] <tamran> so, I don't know what is going on there
[21:31] <lalalol> youre not joking right?
[21:31] <tamran> not joking
[21:31] <lalalol> then the beta fails lol
[21:32] <tamran> it's snappier and faster to use, but side by side cpu graph comparisions show no/little difference forme
[21:32] <tamran> ok, I'm confused as to which PPA to use ... do I want the daily ones?
[21:33]  * tamran prefers the stable-ish, update maybe once a week version if possible
[21:33] <tamran> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta <- ??
[21:38] <tamran> ppa:chromium-daily/ppa <- that's what I used
[21:42] <Sufixx> hi, what's default package manager in kubuntu? (with gui)
[21:43] <tamran> Sufixx: try kpackagekit
[21:43] <lantizia> Hey, I've kinda got used to KDE a bit now... which is a big help - I usually just format it anytime I try it lol
[21:43] <Guest66423> use "adept"
[21:43] <tamran> Sufixx: synaptic also works (lots of people use it even in kde)
[21:43] <lantizia> Can I get a distro of kde that has less shit in it?
[21:43] <lantizia> I can't think of a better way to put it
[21:43] <lantizia> Minimal! thats what I mean, not less shit
[21:43] <tamran> lantizia: please tell me the answer when you get it ... I have a similar feeling :)
[21:44] <lantizia> tamran: well I'm on Linux Mint KDE... which is a bit of a help... firefox/thunderbird/songbird out the box
[21:44] <tamran> lantizia: Arch linux has a kdemod install, which lets you strip out some of the bloat
[21:44] <tamran> lantizia: but not sure on ubuntu/kubuntu yet
[21:44] <tamran> hahaha
[21:45] <tamran> lantizia: I like the way you first put it :)
[21:45] <tamran> lantizia: perhaps try an Ubuntu minimal install, then just install kde?
[21:45] <Sufixx> tamran: thx, I haven't been using kubuntu for years and now I'm helping my newbie-friend (I thought that adept still is def manager) :)
[21:45] <lantizia> tamran: is there like a kde-core package or something?
[21:45] <tamran> oh, adept probablly is, but I always use kpackagekit
[21:46] <tamran> lantizia: I'm pretty sure there is kde and kubuntu-desktop ... there's discussion in the forums about it I believe
[21:52] <tamran> YEAH, chromium does the gtk colors right!
[21:52] <tamran> thanks mefisto__ and lalalol
[21:53] <tamran> ok, so  ... now how does one turn off google tracking with chromium?
[21:54] <srdjan> there is google tracking??
[21:54] <tamran> srdjan: I'm not sure ... I'm lead to believe there is
[21:55] <tamran> srdjan: if Iwas google, I'd be doing tracking ... you know, not for nefarious purposes of course
[21:55] <tamran> :)
[21:55] <srdjan> :)
[21:55] <srdjan> well i was just peer-pressured into installing chromium
[21:55] <srdjan> so i hope it's not tracking me
[21:56] <tamran> srdjan: me too! it's nice so far.  I'll say this, tracking or not, chrome is a huge improvement over even firefox
[21:56] <dmdevotee> hi, somebody help me plase
[21:57] <dmdevotee> when i install kubuntu-restricted-extras, it closes the software manager
[21:57] <ambit> chorme will spoil you, i cant even go to different browsers now
[21:57] <erk10> hey yall anyone know a way i can get my drivers for my belkin F5D7050 ver.5000 working from the .exe or find an iso for the original copy of the driver disc for ubuntu?
[21:57] <tamran> dmdevotee: dang, I had an issue with that just now
[21:57] <srdjan> ambit: in what way?
[21:57] <dmdevotee> how can i install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:58] <srdjan> erk10: what is one of those belkin things?
[21:58] <sithlord48> dmdevotee, alt+f2 to open run box run konsole then type in sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:58] <erk10> its a wireless card
[21:58] <srdjan> ugh
[21:58] <erk10> tryin to get ubuntu workin on another comp of mine everything but the wireless card works
[21:58] <srdjan> maybe there's a dirver for it
[21:58] <erk10> nope no driver support what so ever for linux
[21:59] <erk10> but the original driver will work
[21:59] <dmdevotee> sithlord48, it does nothing
[21:59] <erk10> problem is i lost the cd
[21:59] <erk10> and they only have a .exe for download
[21:59] <erk10> and with the .exe i cant view the .inf file
[22:00] <tamran> dmdevotee: this is a total guess.  Did you install the addin's for Konquerer browser?
[22:00] <erk10> see with ndiswrapper i can install it like i did most other windows drivers and use the .inf file
[22:00] <dmdevotee> tamran: no, and i unistalled konquerer
[22:00] <tamran> dmdevotee: I'm trying to track this issue down as well, as I can't seem to install the restricted extras
[22:00] <tamran> you can uninstall konquerer!? SWEEEET
[22:00] <erk10> any ideas srdjan?
[22:00] <cuznt> !restricted
[22:01] <srdjan> erk10: http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=30     seems you dont need ndiswrapper
[22:01] <srdjan> maybe. dunno
[22:01] <erk10> hmm let me check it out
[22:01] <dmdevotee> tamran: you can't?
[22:01] <fabio333> i got to register on this server
[22:01] <dmdevotee> i have other issue
[22:02] <tamran> dmdevotee: I never thought to try :)
[22:02] <tamran> dmdevotee: I "thought" to try, but never thought it would work
[22:03] <dmdevotee> when i try to install samba client, a error message appears (in spanish): you must remove kubuntu-desktop package before installing. what whould i do?
[22:03] <dmdevotee> should*
[22:04] <fabio333> kubuntu-desktop : like a metapackage... pretty useless
[22:04] <dmdevotee> mmmm what works unistalling konqueror? i did it only because i didn't wanted it, not because i wanted to solve something lol
[22:04] <dmdevotee> but
[22:04] <mefisto__> erk10: try opening the .exe with ark. it's probably an autoextracting zip archive
[22:04] <erk10> ight srdjan i'm gonna try that out i'll be back in a few mins ty for the help
[22:04] <fabio333> konqueror: pretty useless now
[22:04] <erk10> yea it is
[22:04] <dmdevotee> the funny thing is is not installed lol
[22:04] <tamran> dmdevotee: ok, the restricted extras is installing for me via cmd line
[22:05] <tamran> dmdevotee: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:05] <dmdevotee> sure?
[22:05] <dmdevotee> omg
[22:05] <tamran> yeah, in the packagemanager it wouldn't work though
[22:05] <tamran> so I dunno
[22:05] <tamran> I've never had that problem myself
[22:05] <dmdevotee> thanks
[22:06] <tamran> no problem ... is it working?
[22:06] <dmdevotee> i'm installing, through terminal
[22:06] <dmdevotee> yes, it seems
[22:06] <tamran> I'm finding more and more that the terminal is the way to go
[22:06] <ambit> srdjan: the interface is just too easy, everything seems more at my fingertips, and the menus and tabs doesnt take up half my screen
[22:07] <dmdevotee> thanks again
[22:07] <srdjan> damn. pornview segfaults on properties...
[22:07] <tamran> glad it's workin' for you man
[22:07] <tamran> pornview? is that an app?
[22:07] <dmdevotee> anybody knows how to install all audio plugins? AAC, flac, wavpack, etc
[22:07] <dmdevotee> to amarok
[22:08] <srdjan> ambit: i'll have to start using it to see... hopefully the fact each tab is a process, should insulate from busy loops etc
[22:08] <tamran> dmdevotee: I'm pretty sure that's part of the restricted extras
[22:08] <srdjan> tamran: yes it;'s in apt-get
[22:08] <tamran> LOL
[22:08] <dmdevotee> thanks i will try
[22:09] <tamran> dmdevotee: I wasn't able to get ipod stuff workign without the restricted extras
[22:09] <Wolfcastle> hello
[22:09] <Wolfcastle> i installed gsynaptics to configure my touchpad
[22:09] <Wolfcastle> but changes are not saved when restarting X
[22:09] <Wolfcastle> any ideas how to achieve this?
[22:10] <srdjan> Wolfcastle: is it changing a different config file?
[22:11] <dmdevotee> anybody knows how to restore the K button?? (the equivalent of start button on windows)
[22:11] <Wolfcastle> srdjan: I have no idea what file it's changing
[22:11] <dmdevotee> not happening now
[22:11] <dmdevotee> but, i had to re-install cause of this
[22:11] <srdjan> dmdevotee: right click on panel and there will be some option
[22:13] <tamran> dmdevotee: when you right click the panel and go panel options and then "add widgets" the kde launcher is not there?
[22:13] <mefisto__> dmdevotee: that K button is just a widget. you can add or remove it anywhere just like any other plasma widget
[22:14] <erk10> muahahaha i got it workin
[22:14] <srdjan> erk10: :)
[22:14] <erk10> srdjan that wasnt the issue but i got a great idea from that site
[22:14] <erk10> so ty for your help
[22:14] <srdjan> np :)
[22:14] <dmdevotee> tamran, thanks, yes, now i see
[22:14] <tamran> dmdevotee: np
[22:14] <erk10> man i feel sorry for linux nubbies when im an advanced user and i still have problems from time to time lol
[22:14] <dmdevotee> it happened to me hours ago, but i reinstalled lol
[22:15] <erk10> time to get compiz rockin on this beast
[22:15] <srdjan> erk10: how advanced?
[22:15] <dmdevotee> omg this irc channel is awesome
[22:15] <mefisto__> erk10: things have been changing fast lately, it's easy to be a newbie
[22:15] <erk10> im a aix admin
[22:15] <srdjan> ooh i'm sorry for you :P
[22:15] <tamran> erk10: linux newbs is one thing, linux newbs bred on windows for years is almost worse ... I had to get 4 years of the Gentoo treatment before I really appreciated linux
[22:15] <erk10> yea lol no os holding my hand when i go to work lol
[22:16] <erk10> if you dont know command line extremely well dont get near aix lol
[22:16] <srdjan> tamran: ouch. I tried out gentoo. really liked it, except that I kept getting package blocks almost every day. and it became a massive pain to use it. pitty though :(
[22:17] <tamran> srdjan: yeah, too many options supported, too little support ... you HAVE to go unstable stream in that or you're hoooped. unstable in gentoo is actually MORE stable on 64bit
[22:17] <erk10> sudo apt-get install compiz .... anyone remember the rest of the command?
[22:18] <erk10> lol i might have to look it up
[22:18] <dmdevotee> anybody knows if there is a easy way to share files / directories between a virtualbox machine and kubuntu?
[22:18] <erk10> wait  think the rest was compiz-manager- something hmmm
[22:18] <srdjan> erk10: do you not already have it enabled/installed?
[22:18] <tamran> srdjan: I have days where I want to go back ... but a little patience and getting a toolchain installed eased my "frustration" a bit
[22:18] <erk10> it doesnt come with this flavor of ubuntu
[22:18] <erk10> and you cant see it in the software manager either i have it running on a vpc on my solaris machine
[22:18] <srdjan> tamran: yes i want to go back. only used it on and off for a few weeks. very much liked emerge
[22:19] <erk10> thats ight i'll just look it up on that computer real quick
[22:19] <srdjan> erk10: was it something like "cssm" ?
[22:20] <erk10> nah here it is its sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-settings-manager
[22:20] <erk10> knew it was something like that lol
[22:20] <tamran> srdjan: try getting the toolchain installed on Ubuntu ... I think it was "checkinstall" package?  Google "build packages" on ubuntu.  You can hack pretty much everything
[22:20] <srdjan> ugh i should do some ironing
[22:21] <tamran> srdjan: if you do go use gentoo, it works nicely but requires daily work.  Eventually you'll get sick of it.  There is also Arch linux, but I didn't have the patience to get that deep ... I just like to slice through the bloat
[22:22] <srdjan> tamran: thats assuming i want to hack ubuntu... i just use it now as i was getting annoyed with lack of updates for slackware
[22:22] <tamran> srdjan: you may have the same thing I do ... I actually find watching code compile soothing :/
[22:22] <erk10> man ubuntu is retarded easy to use lol
[22:23] <erk10> compiz up and runnin this machine is lookin like a pimp
[22:23] <tamran> I used to have a gentoo box hooked up to the TV and would have code compiling in a PIP window
[22:23] <erk10> hel yea lol
[22:23] <srdjan> tamran: me too
[22:23] <erk10> should see some of the crazy stuff im doin these days since everything is gettin so advanced
[22:23] <tamran> srdjan: I can't explain it, but yeah ... soothing
[22:24] <tamran> of course, anxiety would set in if a compile fails :)
[22:24] <srdjan> yup soothing :]
[22:24] <erk10> lol tam
[22:24] <dmdevotee> any recommendations about gnome-commander type soft for kubuntu?
[22:24] <erk10> its one of those /wrists moments huh lol
[22:24] <srdjan> i might download pornview and compile from source
[22:25] <erk10> i have a suggestion use gnome!
[22:25] <tamran> srdjan: those gentoo guys are all pretty nice too, it takes you a matter of days to start helping other newbs ... after using it for 3 days I was ssh'ign into peoples boxes with screen to walk them through an install ... within days, they were helping others
[22:25] <dmdevotee> do you mean gnome, or gnome commander?
[22:25] <srdjan> tamran: wow. people are so trusting?
[22:25] <erk10> brb just did an update
[22:25] <tamran> srdjan: there is an ubuntu package build faq somewhere.  You can make your own package quite easily with that
[22:26] <tamran> srdjan: well, it was in screen, so they could totally watch what I did
[22:26] <srdjan> tamran: make install into /usr/local/stow/package/packagename/  and then use stow :)
[22:26] <tamran> srdjan: what's stow?
[22:26]  * tamran googles
[22:26] <srdjan> i didnt know you could use screen to have an interactive multi-user interface
[22:26] <santosh> hey guys, I am trying to Install oracle 11.2 on ubuntu
[22:27] <santosh> I am stuck with a step where i need to modify limit.conf file....I am getting an error when I try to save the file
[22:27] <srdjan> tamran: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127393
[22:27] <santosh> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /etc/security/limits.conf.
[22:27] <santosh> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available
[22:28] <binarylooks> santosh: are you on the konsole?
[22:28] <srdjan> santosh: do you have enogh disk space or enough permissions?
[22:28] <binarylooks> in ubuntu you need to use "sudo" to get the necessary privileges
[22:28] <happypinguin> hi, i have a mustek bearpow 1200cu plus scaner and when i try to scan it gives me "unknown erorr" (in GIMP). Does enyone have this scaner?
[22:28] <santosh> yes, I do have enough space and I am on console as root
[22:29] <santosh> is it possible to edit a file from console, or it has to be done through file manager
[22:29] <tamran> brb
[22:29] <srdjan> santosh: it is possible
[22:30] <srdjan> wb tamran
[22:30] <tamran> can you please repast that link ... I had to reboot the terminaal
[22:30] <binarylooks> santosh: fo example use: sudo nano /etc/security/limits.conf
[22:30] <tamran> testing something out here
[22:30] <srdjan> [22:27:40] <srdjan> tamran: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127393
[22:31] <srdjan> binarylooks: or sudo su  :)
[22:31] <tamran> awesome, my default browser setting works ... I just had to close the terminal
[22:32] <tamran> ok, I'm going to set this up in a screen session, brb
[22:32] <binarylooks> sudo suo = super user do super user :-) sounds strange
[22:33] <srdjan> binarylooks: :D
[22:33] <srdjan> but it does get you a root shell
[22:33] <tamran> ok, screen should be working
[22:33] <santosh> I did try that
[22:33] <santosh> sudo etc/security/limits.conf
[22:33] <santosh> sudo: etc/security/limits.conf: command not found
[22:34] <tamran> screen is just awesome
[22:34] <binarylooks> its sudo nano /etc/security/limits.conf
[22:34] <tamran> santosh: limits.conf is not an executable
[22:35] <binarylooks> nano is a konsole text editor
[22:36] <santosh> I wanted to know if I can edit a file "limits.conf" from console
[22:36] <srdjan> nano is not a konsole editor
[22:36] <tamran> so, by the way, KDE4.4 is using 150mb less ram than the latest gnome ... is there something I'm missing?
[22:36] <mefisto__> santosh: there should be a / before etc
[22:37] <erk10> oh man this computer runs great
[22:38] <erk10> compiz looks sexy too on it got my studio computer up and runnin woot!
[22:38] <srdjan> given this URL: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/pornview/karmic   how can I download a tar of the source? or how can I access the source with anont SVN or git ?
[22:38] <erk10> got it runnin ubuntu studio 9.10 so its gonna be sweet for makin music and what not
[22:39] <tamran> so, ktorrent doesn't support magnet links ... can anyone reccomend a bittorrent client that does?
[22:39] <tamran> I tried transmission-qt, but the browser is trying to use xdg-open and it doesn't do anything for me ...
[22:40] <santosh> Still it give me command prompt error
[22:41] <srdjan> ok i think i just got the sauce
[22:41] <erk10> utorrent is very nice
[22:41] <srdjan> santosh: can we try to guess what error it is?
[22:41] <erk10> gotta have wine installed to use utorrent though
[22:41] <tamran> utorrent isn't a linux app is it?
[22:41] <srdjan> ooh need wine for Tiberian Sun...
[22:42] <erk10> no its not a linux app but like i said if you have wine installed it works
[22:42] <santosh> yes
[22:42] <erk10> also if you get crossover you can use damn near any windows software
[22:42] <tamran> I've got VMWare for that stuff
[22:42] <tamran> I'd like to keep my viruses in a sandbox if possible :)
[22:42] <erk10> virtualbox is much better than vmware
[22:42] <erk10> and its opensource
[22:42] <srdjan> lol
[22:43] <erk10> well virtualbox wont be as secure to the host os as vmware is so you might wanna stick with vmware
[22:43] <erk10> your still never 100% secure
[22:43] <erk10> im real big into virtualization use vmware at work with vsphere and all the goodies
[22:43] <tamran> erk10: fair enough ... but I like to "ride bareback" as they say when using windows
[22:43] <erk10> yea
[22:44] <erk10> brb
[22:44] <tamran> anyone got magnet links to work using chromium browser?
[22:44] <tamran> on kde of course
[22:45] <tamran> it works out of the box in gnome (Ubuntu)
[22:48] <erk10> lol the media plugin for .wma files is called ugly i love it
[22:50] <erk10> tamran out of curiousity which vmware you using?
[22:51] <tamran> vmware 7
[22:51] <erk10> right on
[22:51] <tamran> it works pretty good
[22:51] <erk10> you seen what they have in store for it in the future?
[22:51] <tamran> well, their server stuff is absolutely awesoe ... but I doubt I'd ever use it
[22:51] <erk10> eventually all the os's will run as a single os or thats how it will appear
[22:51] <tamran> the client stuff works best on the mac though
[22:52] <erk10> yea fusion 3 is sexy
[22:52] <erk10> i have it on my mac
[22:52] <tamran> it's not as good on Linux ... but I can play some 3d games with little issue
[22:52] <erk10> unix based and linux based os's is the only way to go
[22:53] <tamran> so, I use it only when neccesary ... I don't want to make it too easy for myself to run windows apps ...
[22:53] <tamran> and I ABSOLUTELY like the way I can do snapshots
[22:54] <tamran> talk about awesome
[22:54] <tamran> woah, chromium is definitely snappier than chrome so far
[22:57] <Daughain> Does wine just not like KDE???
[22:59] <mefisto__> Daughain: what's up?
[23:00] <Daughain> Dunno....I had an issue with wine, so, I did an uninstall, then reinstalled...Even rebooted gthe system, but still now .wine/C:
[23:00] <Daughain> now == no
[23:01] <erk10> graphical applications blow in ubuntu im sticking with command line so much more effective no matter what flavor lol
[23:03] <Daughain> GUI's let me convert windows users. :P
[23:16] <jrmy> francais svp
[23:17] <mefisto__> Daughain: try renaming/deleting the .wine folder and install a windows app to create a new fake windows
[23:17] <jrmy> francais ?
[23:18] <mefisto__> !fr | jrmy
[23:18] <Daughain> mefisto__: Thats just it, I dont even have a .wine folder.
[23:21] <mefisto__> Daughain: does  wine notepad   start notepad?
[23:22] <Daughain> Hmmm.....Yeah, it does...
[23:22] <mefisto__> Daughain: see if that has created a .wine folder. there must be one now
[23:23] <Daughain> Still not there.......at least not in /Documents
[23:23] <mefisto__> Daughain: no, it will be in your home folder. ~/.wine
[23:24] <Daughain> Not in home or home/daughain
[23:25] <Daughain> Hold on, my mistake.
[23:26] <Daughain> I thought I had enable hidden set already.....OK, problem solved.
[23:27] <Daughain> Thanks again, mefisto__
[23:27] <mefisto__> np
[23:30] <ponchale> hola
[23:32] <Serdar> hi there
[23:32] <Serdar> I have installed kubuntu but can't configure my wlan
[23:32] <Serdar> trying to run KNetworkManager but it does not start.
[23:35] <Typos_King> !es | ponchale
[23:35] <Typos_King> heh
[23:35] <Typos_King> Serdar:     knetworkmanager IS loaded already, check your tray
[23:37] <Serdar> oh
[23:38] <Serdar> it didn't see it.
[23:40] <Serdar> thanks