[08:32] <zniavre> wow the new software center is looking very bad i think
[08:33] <zniavre> was not so good before but now it's worst
[13:33] <darkmatter> w00! I broke gnome! \o/
[13:35] <coz_> ok
[13:36] <darkmatter> coz_: ever have one of those sleepy morning where you knew you should have cleared the cobwebs before upgrading packages? I just had one :D
[13:36] <darkmatter> I killed gnome ;)
[13:37] <coz_> darkmatter,  :)  yes sounds real familiar
[13:38] <darkmatter> accidentally upgraded to the developmental version of pango. thankfully tty's actually work on this install
[13:38] <coz_> :)
[13:39] <darkmatter> since everything gtk powered kinda depend on it I was all 'EEEK!"
[13:39] <darkmatter> depends*
[13:41] <darkmatter> meh. shoulda left it for later an had a good laugh at the missus expense. she'd go to log on and 'poof'... no gdm xD
[13:41] <darkmatter> anyway, how is coz_doing this fine morning?
[13:44] <darkmatter> coz_: is it just me or do you find http://jimmac.musichall.cz/images/blog/gnome-3-widgets-shaded.png a tad on the chubby side?
[13:45] <coz_> darkmatter,  mm  the bars  and buttons do seems a bit "chubby" :)
[13:48] <darkmatter> k. it's not just me then. I've been perusing the results of the UX hackfest and am 'attempting' to accept the direction. I guess overall the looks ok, I was just hoping gnome would go on a diet
[13:49] <thorwil> not just a tad
[13:50] <darkmatter> thorwil: I was attempting to be polite ;)
[13:50] <thorwil> heh
[13:50] <darkmatter> it was that or suggest renaming gnome3 to 'shamu'
[13:53] <vish> oooohhhh  empty white spaces , definitely a step forward  ;p
[13:54] <coz_> :)
[13:55] <thorwil> http://humphreybc.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/strip.jpg
[13:56] <darkmatter> vish: you should see the current organization of gnome shell. no categories. all apps listed alphabetically in a big-assed pile of icons. visual clutter is very appealing. I shall pity new gnome users ;)
[13:56] <coz_> thorwil,  lol
[13:56] <coz_> thorwil,  I like eggplant :)
[13:56] <vish> i pity the fool!
[13:56] <darkmatter> thorwil: hehe
[13:57] <coz_> the new default theme in ubuntu is a bit  carppy
[13:57] <coz_> although somewhat nice buttons but there is a bug in that they dont render properly  probably metacity
[13:58] <coz_> dont mean to offend the creator
[13:58] <darkmatter> coz_: it has potential as far as the basics go, but it feels REALLY rushed (lacks consistency), though I'm sure it'll be improved
[13:58] <thorwil> ack
[13:58] <coz_> darkmatter,  well the major thing is the colour of the buttons on that theme
[13:59] <vish> darkmatter: the apps list , in gnome3 is horrifying , if you dont add an app to the fav , you'll spend more time searching for the app
[13:59] <darkmatter> vish: I know, that's why I mentioned it
[14:00] <darkmatter> currently it looks like a bloated iphone
[14:01] <darkmatter> they should have kept some form of categorization to benefit new users
[14:02] <coz_> 6 years and they finally change the default theme... to this ?
[14:04] <darkmatter> gnome3 just feels like an epic dumb-down to me
[14:07] <coz_> I assume you    mean gnome-shell?
[14:07] <darkmatter> coz_: gnome3 in general. they're stripping out most of the system settings and crap
[14:08] <coz_> darkmatter,  sounds like typical gnome approach
[14:09] <darkmatter> they 'plan' to have an extra app called GNOME Plumbing(or plumber or whatever) (basically like tweakui)available to allow them to be adjusted, but we've heard such things before
[14:10] <coz_> :)
[14:10] <darkmatter> I'll believe it when I see it
[14:10] <coz_> darkmatter,  why they insist on cutting out options for users is well beyond my understanding
[14:10]  * vish imagines darkmatter as a old man siting on a lawn yelling at the kids ;p
[14:11] <darkmatter> vish: shhh... I wanted that truth kept secret!
[14:11] <coz_> vish,  no no thats me lol
[14:12] <coz_> if it wasnt for you damn kids
[14:14] <coz_> darkmatter,  I think I am a bit older than you
[14:14] <darkmatter> lies! :P
[14:14] <coz_> :)
[14:14] <darkmatter> ok.. not lies, you're verging on geriatric ;p
[14:15] <coz_> darkmatter,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/me%20pics/00004.png
[14:16] <darkmatter> :O it's a pasta chef!
[14:16] <coz_> darkmatter,  by the way that is really me lol
[14:16] <darkmatter> coz_: I believe ya. just bugging... because I can
[14:17] <coz_> :)
[14:22]  * darkmatter is on an extended break from ui stuff and is letting his creative juices flow
[14:24] <darkmatter> concept art for a long overdue pet project! \o/
[14:26] <darkmatter> nappy time. brain hurts o/
[14:27] <coz_> :)
[16:37] <vish> argh! > http://psankar.blogspot.com/2010/03/forking-evolution.html?showComment=1268493408680#c5756548237122434612
[16:38] <vish> canonical just had the gnome3 meet , and still people say this :s
[17:42] <thorwil> vish: there's no shortage of ignorance and knee-jerking on the net. sadly you can't just educate people, they basically have to do that themselves. many don't want to
[20:28] <elmattt> yop
[20:28] <elmattt> is there a possibility to find the breathe theme icon in other colors ?
[20:28] <thorwil> i'm not aware of any variations/derivatives
[20:29] <elmattt> i need it in blue ^^
[20:44] <islington> elmattt: you might as well use oxygen then
[20:49] <elmattt> yes i already have those one