[00:00] Hi!! Ok I'm trying to play Elderscolls: oblivion on ubuntu 9.10....I have wine, and found a solution, but I don't really understand whats going on.... [00:00] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349764 [00:01] would someone be able to walk me through this [00:02] yax51: I'm not familiar with Oblivion, but I can try. What are you having trouble understanding? [00:04] the solution....I am not sure how to implement it....I went through it, but the part with the iso confused me as well as the cab extract part... [00:05] and on step 2 with the packages... [00:21] yax51: Sorry for the delay...did you go to the link at the top of the first post? [00:23] yeah, but I am not sure if I am doing it right, some of the instructions don't make much sense to me.....but then again I am a total noob at this.... [00:25] yax51: That's fine :) Were you able to run the part with 'winecfg'? [00:26] yes, but what about the cab extract and putting the dll into the wine/system32 folder? [00:28] yax51: You may not need to do that. If you run "wine --version" without the quote marks, what does it say? [00:29] it says command not found [00:29] OK, but you were able to go through winecfg properly? [00:29] yes [00:30] OK, what exactly did you type into your terminal window? It should have been: wine --version [00:30] yax51@yax51-Unbuntu:~$ wine--version [00:31] wine--version: command not found [00:31] You missed a space there :) [00:31] wine --version [00:31] ooops forgot a space....wine 1.0.1 [00:31] :) [00:33] OK, second [00:34] yax51: OK, do you have your Oblivion CD in the drive? [00:35] yes [00:37] Alright, so enter this command exactly as it is here: cabextract /media/cdrom/DXREDIST/Aug2005_d3dx9_27_x86.cab [00:37] that should all be on one line [00:37] Space between cabextract and the long path name [00:37] Let me know what it says, if it says anything. [00:37] yax51@yax51-Unbuntu:~$ cabextract /media/cdrom/DXREDIST/Aug2005_d3dx9_27_x86.cab [00:37] /media/cdrom/DXREDIST/Aug2005_d3dx9_27_x86.cab: WARNING; possible 6848 extra bytes at end of file. [00:37] Extracting cabinet: /media/cdrom/DXREDIST/Aug2005_d3dx9_27_x86.cab [00:37] extracting d3dx9_27_x86.cat [00:37] extracting d3dx9_27.dll [00:37] extracting aug2005_d3dx9_27_x86.inf [00:37] extracting d3dx9_27_w9x.inf [00:37] extracting d3dx9_27_x86.inf [00:38] All done, no errors. [00:38] yax51: OK good, now this command: cp d3dx9_27.dll ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/ [00:38] Again, all one line, space after "cp" and a second space after "d3dx9_27.dll" [00:39] That shouldn't give any output [00:39] done [00:40] should I do the winecfg and the appropriate changes? [00:40] Have you done the registry editing part yet? [00:40] no [00:41] OK, well enter the command "regedit" and we'll go through that [00:41] thats the wine regedit.exe? [00:41] Yep [00:42] ok === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow [00:43] Now, go to the registry key it says to, HKEY_CURRENT_USER / Software / Wine / Direct3D [00:43] If you don't see the Direct3D folder under Wine that's OK [00:43] ok, I don't see the Direct3d folder [00:44] OK, right-click on the Wine folder and choose New -> Key. When asked for a name, give it Direct3D [00:44] The capitalization may be important so make sure to enter it exactly as Direct3D [00:45] ok finished [00:46] Now, you see where it says on the page to create the three registry keys? [00:46] yes [00:47] Go ahead and create the first two of them, we need to do some work to find the value for the third [00:47] so I create value and name iteach of those? [00:47] *it each [00:48] Yes, create a new String value, name it what's in the left column and give it the value of what's in the right column [00:48] ok [00:49] Now, for the third value, we need to do a little work to get the correct number [00:49] Open a new Terminal window and enter this command, let me know what it says: lspci | grep VGA [00:50] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9800M GS] (rev a1) [00:51] K good :) Now this command: lspci -v -s 01:00.0 | grep prefetchable [00:51] Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] [00:51] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] [00:51] Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] [00:52] And last, this command: uname -m [00:52] i686 [00:53] k, so now go ahead and create that third key it says, and use "256" as the value for it [00:53] ok [00:54] That should do it for you. If you close Regedit you should be able to play Oblivion. [00:54] I have to run for a few minutes, but I'll be back. Let me know how it goes, or if you still can't get it [00:54] ok thanks! [00:54] No problem :) [01:16] VICTORY!!! [01:21] ok it works....the only thing is that it's not full screen but that something I can live with [01:33] yax51: Awesome :) [01:33] Hello I am new I was hoping someone might be able to help me get started please!!! [01:33] I have just installed and am completely stuck! [01:33] Benny1983: What are you having problems with? [01:34] i have installed ubuntu 9.04 (i think) [01:34] but I haven't used linux before, well apart from the last 2 days on YDL [01:35] but i have done the install, and I want to install vlc player only I dont have permission. [01:35] OK, well when you installed the system, it should have asked you for your name, your username, and a password. [01:35] i have tried the command sudo but I can't make it work. from what I have read so fare I need to be a root [01:36] when I installed i set up an account "benny" with password1123 etc [01:36] Please never put your password in a public area :) [01:36] thats not it thats just a example [01:36] lol [01:36] OK good :) [01:37] I'm just slightly paranoid about security ;) [01:37] So when you go to install software through either the Ubuntu Software Centre or through Synaptic Package Manager, it should ask you for a password. It's asking for the same password you use to log in with. [01:38] on YDL i set up a root account, ubuntu didnt ask me to so i have no idea how to make apt-get which I think is what ubuntu uses instead of yum? if im wrong sorry, as i say only been trying the last 2 days [01:38] I've tried that it says i dont have permission [01:38] OK, do you have a terminal window open now? [01:39] yes [01:39] I have a promp benny@ubuntu-ps3:~$ [01:39] prompt* [01:39] OK, try this command, you should get a string of numbers: id -G [01:40] it returned "1000" [01:40] That's all? Try this one: id -nG [01:41] Oh! btw I forgot to mention and it might be important, im using a PS3 [01:41] yes jsut one line [01:41] I don't know if that's important or not, I don't know how the PS3 port works :) [01:42] But if all you get is the one number, that explains why you can't install software; you aren't listed as an administrator [01:42] id -nG gives only "benny" [01:44] FYI YDL 6.2 worked pretty well right out the box so to speak, this seems even better ifi can get myself going. but i broke all the YDL repositories follwing guides on the web trying to update things. [01:44] OK, I would recommend going to #ubuntu-ps3, maybe they can help you better [01:44] Yea, the problem with guides on the Internet is some of them are just completely wrong :) [01:45] Benny1983: I checked the Ubuntu PS3 port home page, the official channel for that port is #ubuntu-ps3 [01:45] yeah lots seemed to conflict with where the repos should point. i think there must be a right place for them to point but every guide had something completley different... [01:45] If there's something different about the PS3 port, they would know better there [01:45] Ok well I will go and check it out. [01:46] Thank you for pointing me in the right direction [01:46] Not a problem, feel free to drop back in for anything else [01:47] thanks, my email harrison-b@o2.co.uk if you ever want to ask me to help with anything. not that I know anything about linux but if i can be of any assistance another way. very much appreciated! [01:50] +jgoguen there dont seem to be many people on it, maybe it's not a very active chat. [01:51] Benny1983: They could just be idle...two of them are set away [01:52] That happens in here sometimes too, there's lots of people around but it does happen that no one is actually at their computer [01:53] Do you know where there is an forum I could post this question to that gets read frequently? [01:55] to do everything in YDL i was using terminal and using "su" and yum to install. I cant get anything going on this at the moment and it's quite annoying. however I'm quite impressed that in the maybe 6 hours of using linux [01:55] You could try http://psubuntu.com [01:57] I have got it to recognise my ipod. im hoping that I will be able to back up my ipod to an external hdd and keep the filenames as they were named on my ipod not the truncated ones they give me [01:57] THANK YOU!! [01:58] I will search their forums before I post hopefully someone will have had a similar problem before me. [01:59] Hopefully they can help you, I don't know how their setup may differ [02:02] tbh i think it is pretty good as a standard install, I havent touched any settings because of this one issue and as standard ubuntu has picked up my wired connection, recognised my hard ipod and read the database, and im able to use the net to speak to you! [02:03] YDL i had to fiddle with, i chose that as aparently its optimised for ps3, It worked but it wasn't as user ffirendly. [02:08] one more question +jgoguen, what would you search for for my issue? i'm not sure if i am asking the right question. I need to add myself to the admin list? [02:10] Specifically, you need to add your username to the adm group [02:11] Since you have no way to get admin access from in Ubuntu, you'll need to find out how to boot into single user mode and edit /etc/group and /etc/gshadow from the command line [02:12] OK well I'll search around that topic first then, thanks. all the tutorials I have seen use a "sudo" command, I dont think user "benny" has access to sudo anyway so thats kaput for a start! [02:13] Yep...although as the first user created, you should have been added to the adm group right away...hopefully someone on the psubuntu forums can help more [02:14] is copying the error message returned in terminal and pasting it into googling a standard way of finding fixes for problems or is there a more elegant method? ie [02:14] Sometimes it works, but in this case you're probably best to search for something along the lines of "ubuntu ps3 boot single user" or something similar to that [02:15] Okay thank you! [02:15] And make sure you've got another computer somewhere so you can find out how to use nano if needed :) [02:18] hmm I dont't i have an iphone to browse the web if i need to search and cant connect here i hope that will be enough. I used nano to try and make a ipod mount automatically in YDL and thats how I broke everything last time. I had a feeling something wasn't right editinig repositories every time I needed to do things! [02:20] Well just remember that once you boot into single user mode, use "vigr" to edit the group file and then use "vigr -s" to edit the group shadow file...in both, find the line that starts with "adm" and add your username to the very end of that line for both commands [02:21] In nano, press Ctrl+X to save the file you're working on and then exit...think that's all you need to know about nano for this :) [02:23] ahh I will try and do that now thanks! [02:23] No problem :) [02:26] what I have come up with so far is If I add my name to the sudoers file I should be set, how do i find the file to edit it? [02:29] Well, it's at /etc/sudoers but if you can edit that file you can't also install software :) [02:29] err, can also install software [02:33] ahh back to the drawing board, so thats like locking the key to a safe, in the safe then... Maybe a fresh install? I havent done any changes to lose anything, except the half hour install time maybe I missed an option to set myself as an administrator [02:37] The installer doesn't ask to set up an admin account, the account you create during the install process is supposed to be automatically added to the adm group. [02:38] okay so i will probably end up in the same situation then. maybe I will just try to get the most utodate version of ubuntu and see if that install is different. [02:39] I wish I knew more about PS3 installations to help you better...but the PS3 uses a different CPU type than a normal desktop, so you need to get a version of Ubuntu created for that CPU [02:40] yeah from what I have been doing so far power-pc architecture is teh flavour I need [02:42] Sounds about right... [02:43] I have to go for the night...I wish you best of luck getting that fixed, if you can boot into single user mode you can edit the groups file or the sudoers file to get yourself the access you need. [02:44] ok I lied....oblivion, although it could be wine...isnt working :( === pedro3005 is now known as FailBot === FailBot is now known as pedro3005 [03:00] FAILBOT LMAO !!! [03:01] bodhizazen, :P [03:02] bodhizazen, i'm programming a bot, so what?! [04:17] Anyone here need help? [04:18] I need a lot of help =) [04:18] yep - but I doubt if you could help me :) [04:18] Hey bodhizazen :) [04:18] hobgoblin: What do you need? [04:19] a good night's sleep [04:20] Then go to bed [04:20] I went to bed and I woke up and can;t get back to sleep cos of my back - so at 4am I am up for the day [04:21] Oh....I know h [04:21] I so know that feelin [04:27] hobgoblin: what's wrong with your back? maybe we can help [04:28] pmatulis: I had a proprietary sourced backache which would go sometimes - then I found an opensource one and it stays all the time :) [04:29] Ooh that was low [04:29] heh [04:30] hobgoblin: do you have... backups? [04:30] pmatulis: I do now - I'd much rather be lying down though I think :) [04:30] ty bodhizazen :) [04:32] hobgoblin: do some stretches and come back here tomorrow to let us know how you're doing [04:32] morning phillw [04:32] pmatulis: that sounds suspiciously like exercise :( [04:33] hobgoblin: yes, "use it or lose it" [04:33] heh === denis-k is now known as denis-k[away] === pedro3005 is now known as pedo3005 === pedo3005 is now known as pedro3005 === steelsteve is now known as Steelsteve1 === Steelsteve1 is now known as Steelsteve [05:13] hey all [05:14] hey thewrath [05:14] how is everyone [05:14] sorry it has been a while since i have been on [05:14] hi there [05:14] thewrathjr, good.. don't remember you [05:14] I do [05:14] hobgoblin: in a good way? [05:15] I couldn;t possibly say in a publicly logged channel lol [05:15] of course :) [05:15] okay good lol [05:15] what things have happened over the past couple of months [05:16] Slot [05:16] channels have moved about and I left the team - a whole bunch of stuff went off on the mailing list [05:16] brb [05:16] anything bad [05:16] ok [05:16] A lot has happened [05:16] what ZachK_ ? [05:16] nothing bad [05:16] ok [05:16] hey ZachK_ [05:17] * ZachK_ gives celthunder a handshake [05:17] well bye guys [05:17] bye pedro [05:19] cya pedro3005 [05:21] pedro3005: Latah man === Steelsteve is now known as wolfmanrules === wolfmanrules is now known as Steelsteve [05:33] hi i need help. I cannot play a movie on my netbook it freezes constantly and no audio is only thing running. [05:33] audio overall works though [05:35] anyone here [05:35] Hmm... petra let me take a look [05:35] petra: Read above line [05:36] let you take a look? ok [05:36] What ubuntu version are you using petra ? [05:36] Welcome shredder12 [05:36] thewrath: did you know that the team channel is now #ubuntu-beginners-team ? [05:37] petra: ? [05:37] netbook remix 9.1 [05:37] hey ZachK_ [05:37] Ok.....gimme a sec petra [05:37] the netbook is an nb205-n325 i followed a guide to install the latest xorg and get sound generally working for everything else [05:38] K [05:45] petra: Did you install the codecs for DVD play? [05:45] i installed vlc [05:45] which it works in windows with. [05:46] the movie is an mkv file [05:46] i tried two different movies and played them on other computers to make sure it wasn't the file. [05:47] Yeah but did you install the DVD codecs [05:48] i think so [05:48] are those the gstreamer-ugly packages? [05:49] there was like five of them i think [05:49] And [05:51] and? [05:51] Yes....but then the terminal command as well [05:52] which command? [05:54] I don't remember but it's listed with the other ones as well....the packages I mean [05:55] oh [05:56] i don't know then :( [05:56] i thought vlc had all the codecs built in [05:56] and the movie player built into it said error and installed the 5 packages mentioned and then errored out again [05:57] Go to https://www.help.ubuntu.com [05:58] ok [05:58] Wait bad link.... [05:58] petra: have you tried to install ubuntu-restricted-extras [05:59] no [05:59] and do you have graphics drivers installed if available [05:59] it is an intel graphics [06:00] petra: either search in synaptic for it or run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in a terminal [06:00] k [06:00] with 251 mb max memory to it i do not know minimum (how to check or force 250?) [06:00] ok [06:00] let me run that one moment [06:02] it is installing fonts? [06:04] i reopened in built in movie player and got audio playback error same as before. [06:04] should i try vlc again? [06:05] try running vlc from a terminal, try play the film - you possibly get some information as to the issue in the terminal [06:06] does the file work in any of the other media players - does netbook have mplayer for instance [06:07] ok one second i will try vlc from terminal [06:10] http://pastebin.com/2E8TNPvf [06:10] so it is looking for pulseaudio and alsa but alsa does not work with my netbook i followed a guide to uninstall it and install oss instead [06:11] how to change vlc or the other media player to use oss and why input output error on oss when it finds it? [06:12] do you have a link to the guide you followed ? [06:13] yes i bookmarked it. one second. [06:13] I see you did something with xorg as well [06:13] yes i was told to do that as well. it said add a ppa and it will install new xorg for video [06:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound <-- the sound one [06:14] who told you to do that? just wondering ... what version ubuntu are you using by the way [06:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1215665 [06:14] that i did the video part for the xorg from that guide [06:14] and the sound from the first link [06:15] i did not have issue with touchpad so did not do that part yet. [06:15] i did install gsynaptics thouhg without error [06:15] i am running netbook remix 9.1 nb205-n335 netbook [06:15] oops nb205-nb325 not 335 sorry sir [06:15] have you been to system preferences sound yet? [06:16] no I meant what version of ubuntu - 9.10 9.04 8.10 ... [06:16] or do you know the codename - like jaunty karmic [06:17] 9.1? [06:17] and i do not have sound under preferences [06:17] k - 9.10 that would be [06:18] try running gnome-volume-control in a terminal [06:18] i don'thave a sound under system menu at all anymore [06:18] ok did that [06:18] did it open ? [06:19] yes [06:19] and is there anywhere in there to change to OSS [06:19] it is already on oss4 [06:19] it is only option available [06:19] guide made me uninstall the others [06:19] it made a sound when i booted up though. so i think it was working [06:20] ok - do you have sound in music players? [06:21] or do you have no sound at all anywhere now you are logged in? [06:21] nvm :) petra> audio overall works though [06:22] does video work ok in mplayer? I am not sure what gets installed in the netbook remix - what default media player do you have in the menu [06:22] one second i will try music file. [06:25] music does not play [06:25] so only bootup sound [06:25] oh it played a youtube video should i try that again? [06:25] yep [06:26] :( [06:26] i broke that too [06:26] but i did not change anything sir, i merely closed the lid went to work and now it does not have sound! [06:27] did something grab your soundcard and not let it go? [06:28] petra: have you rebooted or was it suspended/hibernating [06:28] i dont think it was doing either [06:29] it was already on and running when i opened the lid [06:29] did not even have to move the mouse and it had everything open [06:29] should i reboot? [06:30] try it [06:30] ok be right back thank you for helping! [06:30] at least it will be a stable base [06:31] it didn't hibernate? [06:34] wouldn't appear to have done so [06:35] ok rebooted no boot up sound this time [06:35] mmm - it would appear you have successfully broken the sound then :) [06:36] :( [06:36] i liked it better when it worked [06:36] I would too - no sound would be a major issue here [06:36] for all of 3 minutes [06:37] so to recap you removed pulseaudio and alsa and installed oss in addition you installed a newer xorg? Is that right? [06:38] celthunder: you got any ideas? [06:38] yes that is right [06:39] hmm [06:39] newer xorg shouldnt break audio [06:39] input/output error...permissions for sound device bad? [06:40] how to check sir? [06:42] petra can you run lspci and pastebin it please [06:42] oh - run aplay -l as well [06:42] pastebin results [06:45] http://pastebin.com/V9Wnd0Pg [06:45] aplay -l wants me to reinstall alsa-utils [06:45] should i do that? [06:48] I wonder why you did not have sound in the first place with that device [06:49] should i reinstall alsa and the other packages? [06:49] wait... [06:49] yeah [06:49] why did you uninstall them [06:49] alsa is newer [06:50] do that [06:51] also try mplayer [06:52] it is downloading a bunch of packages [06:53] it will [06:56] do i stop and netbook:~$ aplay -l [06:56] aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found... [06:56] so now i do not have a sound card! [06:58] petra it might be worth trying to undo what you did following the forum thread you followed [06:59] but - and I would not normally suggest this but you could have probably reinstalled twice in the time you've been here [07:00] I'm not sure what else to suggest to be honest - when you removed alsa and pulseaudio what was the reason for doing so? [07:01] i found the link i gave you above which has a close series to what i have so i tried to follow along [07:01] i am sorry if i waste your time i will try to undo what i did before. will you help if i reinstall and still no sound please sir? [07:02] close doesnt mean you should follow it... [07:02] indeed [07:02] try rebooting now that you reinstalled alsa and reinstall pulse too for that matter [07:03] petra: if you do and I am about I will be happy to help [07:03] petra: do that first as celthunder says [07:03] ok [07:04] don't you miss the days when a "close" would blow up your monitor on the resolution? [07:05] ha ha ha ha [07:06] I had a lovely 24" crt jobby that failed miserably under conditions similar to that [07:06] at least then people read numbers and watched them closely [07:07] : [07:07] petra: is pulseaudio reinstalled yet? [07:08] yes sir am rebooting. [07:11] i think i need to reinstall. It does not work yet. [07:11] ok before you do that do you have a spare usb or cd you can use? [07:11] yes i do [07:11] you can back up the apt cache to save redownloading them again for the updates [07:12] ok - the folder you need to backup is at /var/cache/apt [07:12] copy all that to the usb or cd before you reinstall [07:13] ok thank you. [07:13] then when you have reinstalled and it says you have updates available make sure you don't do it straight away [07:14] ok how do i update then? [07:15] before you do - run gksu nautilus - that will open a filebrowser as root - then copy the backup into the same place, then you have to run an apt-get update - then you can do any upgrades [07:15] but come back and ask someone to make sure you do it right [07:15] ok. [07:16] installing the first time took about 30 minutes will you be here then? [07:16] don't jump straight into removing stuff to get sound working - while you might think you have done a bad thing by breaking sound - it is a good way to learn - I reinstalled about 10 times in the first 6 months lol [07:16] I should be - but it is morning here and I have a few things to do [07:17] ok. thank you i will make sure not to put anything vitally important on it for 6 months so if i need to reinstall i can. [07:18] petra: how big is the drive? [07:18] does it only have ubuntu on it ? [07:19] 160GB and yes i picked remove all others when installing so no windows. [07:23] ok, do you have ethernet - if so come back here when you have booted the install - assuming it is a livecd or liveusb [07:23] if not tell me now [07:24] am going through install. yes i have an ethernet cable though i was using wireless. [07:24] do i need to use ethernet? [07:24] what we can do is make /home partition and a /root partition so if you need to reinstall you will keep your data [07:25] i am at clock screen. [07:25] oh right - you started have you? [07:25] i just pick my time zone again right? [07:25] hang on - stop please and close the installer down [07:25] ok [07:25] first - how much RAM do you have? [07:25] 2GB [07:26] it booted me to a preinstalled system when i exit installer [07:26] yea that should be the livecd - is that right? [07:27] open the partition editor in the system >admin menu [07:27] no cd :( it does not have a cd drive [07:28] which one is partition editor? disk utility? [07:28] the only one under P is Printing [07:28] go to a terminal and type gpart [07:30]