[00:54] <m4v> randy and steil weren't bot clones, they were just using the same shell service paddymelon was using...
[12:36] <erUSUL> !search tweak
[12:45] <IdleOne> !ubuntutweak
[12:45] <IdleOne> heh bot doesn't know about it
[12:46] <IdleOne> or I don't know the right !trigger
[12:46] <erUSUL> true
[12:46] <IdleOne> I know there used to be a factoid
[12:46] <IdleOne> oh wait I was thinking automatix
[12:47] <IdleOne> but tweak is the same thing
[12:47] <vish> !info ubuntutweak
[12:47] <persia> No, they aren't the same thing.
[12:47] <ubot2> vish: Package ubuntutweak does not exist in karmic
[12:47] <erUSUL> automatix is like ancient history ....
[12:47] <ubot4> vish: Package ubuntutweak does not exist in karmic
[12:47] <persia> automatix is something that is not recommended, because it does all sorts of questionable things.
[12:48] <persia> ubuntutweak at least plays by the rules, but it's also likely not what you want for a stable system.
[12:48] <IdleOne> persia: so in that respect still not recommended
[12:49] <persia> IdleOne: Yes, but to a different degree.  There is an active recommendation to not use automatix.  There is simply no recommendation on ubuntutweak, although use is gently discouraged.
[12:50] <IdleOne> persia: ok thanks for the info :)
[19:15] <jussi01> Reminder, IRCC meeting in 45 mins.  in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:26] <guntbert> jussi01: where can I find the agenda?
[19:26] <nhandler> guntbert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
[19:27] <guntbert> nhandler: unfortunately not - thats 2 weeks old
[19:49] <Tm_T> guntbert: and meeting agenda cannot be 2 weeks old?
[19:50] <guntbert> Tm_T: If I read it correctly its for the meeting 2 week ago - please tell me I'm wrong
[19:50] <Tm_T> let's see...
[19:51] <nhandler> guntbert: No. That just means nobody got around to updating the wiki to show the correct date of the next meeting
[19:51] <topyli> the agenda is ok, the date is wrong
[19:51] <guntbert> nhandler: understood -- sorry to bother :)
[19:51] <nhandler> No problem guntbert