[02:55] <lantizia> If Canonical ever got a better offer from Google for the search box by the time of 10.10... would it dare push the change back in the 10.04 repo? :D
[02:56] <ddecator> not sure they can at this point
[02:56] <lantizia> is the Yahoo deal linked to X amount of ubuntu releases?
[02:56] <ddecator> i'm guessing the agreement with yahoo involved some kind of contract
[02:56] <ddecator> no idea to be honest...
[02:57] <lantizia> those upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 will find it changes against their will?
[02:57] <lantizia> ie the default
[02:58] <ddecator> haha, i guess you could say it that way, but yes, it becomes the default, but changing it is as easy as setting google back in the search bar of firefox and changing the homepage
[02:58] <lantizia> see I'd understand for new installs... but if you're upgrading then thats not upgrading firefox - it's reconfiguring your existing profile to canonicals will
[02:58] <lantizia> dodgy
[02:59] <ddecator> people won't be happy...but like i said, it's really easy to fix
[02:59] <lantizia> *buntu gives us Bing and Mono out the box
[02:59] <lantizia> ew er
[03:00] <lantizia> next it'll have moonlight because it's more libre than flash
[03:01] <ddecator> well moonlight is required for a lot...once it supports DRM (if it ever does) it'll be needed for netflix instant watch for example
[03:01] <lantizia> oh sure and flash is needed for alot
[03:02] <lantizia> the only difference is moonlight can be included in a free-only GNU/Linux distro, flash can not
[03:02] <lantizia> yet another point for Microsoft
[03:02] <lantizia> MS exchange support out the box with evolution too
[03:02] <lantizia> and were helping them! all these projects began long before novell bought them all and did the deal
[03:03] <lantizia> am I being paranoid ?
[03:03] <ddecator> it's unfortunate, but it's what the market has chosen and we need to be compatible...
[03:03] <lantizia> how is it since the SUN jre went gnu licensed it hasn't been a part of the base of ubuntu?
[03:04] <ddecator> maybe a little, MS isn't going to take over Ubuntu, we're just making sure to be compatible with them so new users are more comfortable
[03:04] <lantizia> I mean I know the main drive for tomboy/mono was GNOME making them official parts
[03:04] <ddecator> no offense, but i think we're a little off topic for this channel =p
[03:04] <lantizia> true
[03:05] <lantizia> any word on the Thunderbird stable PPA?
[03:06] <ddecator> not sure...micahg would probably know, but he's not on
[07:01] <ccheney> asac: still need to test the packages but i have epiphany-browser packaged up nicely now, need to do the others still, may have to update epiphany a bit in the process to get rid of some of the patches to glib/gtk if possible
[07:01] <ccheney> asac: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394506/
[07:02] <ccheney> headed to bed now :)
[07:05]  * ccheney is halfway scared to run it, heh
[07:32] <ccheney> asac: it crashes shortly after launch due to some bad casts apparently will have to investigate the issue later, really going to bed now :)
[07:33] <ccheney> asac: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394528/
[07:34] <ccheney> asac: it loads the debian homepage but then crashes when i click in the url bar
[07:59] <pulaski> Hi.  I added the ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to my kubuntu 9.10 software sources list using the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable" My sources.list was unchanged. Instead a new dir "sources.list.d was created.  Then I did a "sudo apt-get update". I've always manually added to sources.list. Does this do the same thing?
[08:00] <ddecator> the add-apt-repository should do the same thing as manually adding it...
[08:03] <pulaski> ddecator: Thanks for responding.  I'm trying to get the firefox package "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100123 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.6".  Do you know if the command "sudo apt-get install firefox" will grab that version for me?
[08:04] <ddecator> you said you added the ppa?
[08:04] <ddecator> on karmic, if you've added the ppa, then running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" should upgrade firefox to 3.6
[08:05] <ddecator> unless the ppa didn't get entered right...
[08:07] <pulaski> Yes but it did not appear in my sources.list,  Instead when I issued the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable" and did an update it added the dir sources.list.d with three files in it.  One of those files is named "mozillateam-firefox-stable-karmic.list".  Is this correct?
[08:09] <ddecator> not sure, let me check how mine is setup
[08:10] <pulaski> ddecator: Just do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" after I've done the "sudo apt-get update" huh? No worries about getting a the specific firefox version r:1.9.2 then?
[08:10] <ddecator> pulaski, if the ppa is entered right, then the firefox package, which should have already been installed, will upgrade to 3.6
[08:11] <ddecator> we're doing away with the firefox-<version> format
[08:14] <pulaski> ddecator: great, thanks for your help.  I've always manually added to my sources.list and never used the add-repository" command before.  This experience of a new sources.list.d directory being created is new and I wanted to be sure it was correct.
[08:15] <pulaski> ddecator: Do you think it is correct?
[08:16] <ddecator> pulaski, i can't remember what separates the two types...
[08:16] <pulaski> ddecator: Well I'll go ahead and upgrade, what's the worst that can happen?
[08:17] <ddecator> pulaski, worst-case, it doesn't upgrade
[08:17] <pulaski> lol thanks, cya
[08:17] <ddecator> np =)
[16:02] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[19:14] <BUGabundo>  PID MINFLT MAJFLT      VSTEXT  VSIZE  RSIZE  VGROW  RGROW  MEM CMD     1/12
[19:14] <BUGabundo>  6329  72365      4       2158K 541.2M 179.6M 541.2M 179.6M   5% gwibber-servic
[19:14] <BUGabundo> 18007  23937      0       2158K 545.3M 173.8M 545.3M 173.8M   4% gwibber-servic
[19:14] <BUGabundo> 18008  23685      2       2158K 545.3M 173.6M 545.3M 173.6M   4% gwibber-servic
[19:14] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:14] <BUGabundo> this aren't all that nice mem values for gwibber :(
[20:16] <fta> hm, found a bug in the bot
[20:16] <fta> 5.0.307.11~r39572-0ubuntu1~ucd1 -> 5.0.307.11~r39572-0ubuntu2~ucd2