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* Takyoji tries to decide between ORM and MVC01:28
TakyojiAnyone testing Lucid still?02:05
Obsidian1723not I.02:05
Obsidian1723I may not upgrade to it.02:06
TakyojiIf only I knew a little more of various development paradigms02:16
rippsI've been using Lucid since Alpha 102:28
kermittonyyarusso: did you see the TED video about open formats?02:29
tonyyarussokermit: I don't think I did.02:29
tonyyarussoTakyoji: I have Lucid on a VM and a laptop.02:30
kermittonyyarusso: i don't know which one i saw, but these are related http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/tim_berners_lee_the_year_open_data_went_worldwide.html02:32
TakyojiWas just curious if anyone else was having the boot issue of a missing file or not; of which I've found the answer to02:32
kermittonyyarusso: do you do a lot of data mining? that's probably my strongest skill.02:35
kermit(and i need a job)02:35
tonyyarussokermit: nope02:35
tonyyarussoRight now for work I mostly do technical writing.02:35
kermittonyyarusso:  oh, i recall you talking about data formats a few times (kml, the .ntr..)02:37
tonyyarussoYeah, those would be from random things I try to do in my personal life :P02:38
tonyyarussoThe KML because I'm trying to put together a web site about hiking trails.02:38
Adremelechdoes anyone here use hdmi on their computer?03:24
Adremelechw/ audio?03:24
* Takyoji doesn't03:24
kermitisn't HDMI a key step in turning your PC into a cable box?03:27
kermitend to end DRM03:27
kermiti get chills when i see the acronym03:27
TakyojiTo my understanding, yes03:28
tonyyarussoThat's true, but you can also use it for non-DRMd purposes.03:31
TakyojiHDMI is patent-encumbered while DisplayPort isn't, correct? Or?03:33
tonyyarussoNo idea03:33
* tonyyarusso is still using D-SUB VGA connections03:33
tonyyarussoTakyoji: while I have you here, what's the status of a release event for MN South?03:36
TakyojiI'm going to email some people right now about getting a location yet.03:37
tonyyarussoSame question goes out to jenkinbr, exigraff, ripps, and h00k for NE, mr_steve for Metro West.03:37
kermitTakyoji: i recall something making me like displayport a lot better, relating to IP03:38
tonyyarussoTakyoji: okay, keep us posted03:38
kermitHDMI has CEC and royalties, DisplayPort doestn03:39
Adremelechi could help out with metro west stuff, but i dont really have experience with such things03:40
tonyyarussoAdremelech: None needed.03:41
Adremelechwhat does it entail?03:41
tonyyarussoAdremelech: A release event can be just about anything, from a social event at a restaurant to someone's house to an all-day installfest with speakers and the whole works.03:41
Adremelechcoolio03:42
tonyyarussoorganizing such a thing included choosing an event type, date, time, setting up a location, announcing the details on the web site and mailing list, possibly distributing flyers if you can, etc.03:42
tonyyarussoBut by far the biggest thing is just deciding you're going to do something and telling us what it is and when.03:43
tonyyarussoFriday/Saturday/Sunday immediately following release (which happens on Thursday) is most common.03:43
Adremelechwell, if it is going o be an installfest, i could help installing, but with my limited schedule thats about it03:44
Adremelech80-100 hour work weeks suck :|03:44
tonyyarussolast fall we had two in Minnesota.  One in St. Paul that was an installfest with a speaker from Canonical, and one that was actually in Superior, WI but drew from NE MN too that was a meetup for food & drinks at a restaurant.03:44
Adremelechwell, 40-50 technically03:44
tonyyarussoIt's the organizing that really needs work right now.03:45
tonyyarussoI want to see 5 or more events of some kind in the state for Lucid.03:45
Adremelechif someone could come up with some fliers, i could put them out on the counter at my work03:46
Adremelechi get a fair amount of technology oriented people in my store03:46
tonyyarussoIf we get the date, time, & location decided within the next couple of weeks we can get flyers printed free.  But you have to organize the details to put on the flyers first.03:46
Adremelechindeed03:47
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: What's the release date?03:51
tonyyarusso!lucid03:52
ubot3Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+103:52
tonyyarussogah, darn your database lag ubot3.03:52
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: So we don't have an actual date yet?03:53
tonyyarussohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule03:53
tonyyarussoOf course we do - it was set ages ago.03:53
sparklehistoryAh, April 2903:53
sparklehistorytonyyarusso: So we'd be looking at April 30 and May 1 and 2 for release party dates then?03:55
tonyyarussosparklehistory: as the ones that make the most sense, but that's not required.03:56
tonyyarussoit can be June 19th if you want.03:56
sparklehistorylol03:56
sparklehistoryWell that weekend is going to suck for me - exams start Monday, May 3.03:56
tonyyarussoSo study now instead of cramming.03:58
sparklehistoryYeah, that always works better in theory than in practice04:00
tonyyarussoThe same can be said of cramming.04:00
sparklehistoryFrankly I prefer a mixture of both, I like to do my outlining and preparing study materials a few weeks before exams but it's important to review everything right before as well so it's fresh in my mind.04:02
TakyojiI just learn it all once. :D04:02
Takyojiof course, I'm merely in high school. :P04:03
sparklehistoryThat's less practical when you have one exam that counts for 100% of your grade.04:11
tonyyarussobut normal people don't have those.04:11
sparklehistoryBut I do and therefore I have to studing accordingly.04:12
tonyyarussoBut you don't get to complain :)04:12
sparklehistoryWhy not?04:12
tonyyarussobecause you're the one that chose to go to crazy school.04:13
sparklehistoryFine, then you don't get to complain about the idiots in your classes because you chose to go to your school.04:15
kermitwhich schools do you two go to?04:18
TakyojiHeh: http://www.php.net/manual/en/control-structures.goto.php04:18
TakyojiApparently some complimentary xkcd comics in the PHP documentation. :P04:18
tonyyarussoMetro State04:19
sparklehistoryI'm in law school.04:21
kermithow generic of a name for a school04:23
tonyyarussoLucid's been kind of disappointing as a development release cycle so far - I haven't had it become unbootable ONCE!04:27
TakyojiToday is my first day for such. :P04:30
TakyojiDue to a file being renamed; and I had updated between the change of the file name, and tweaking the files that depend on it.04:30
=== ripps_ is now known as ripps

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