[00:01] Good evening! Can anyone help me with controlling/changing my CPU speed? [00:13] anyone? [00:14] ? [00:14] Can you help with CPU scaling? [00:15] like? [00:15] i can't but the more you say the more chance someone is going to answer [00:15] set it to powersave, or full performance [00:16] find a utility for that? [00:16] like the panel utility that is available in ubuntu [00:17] something for the right cpu [00:17] amd etc [00:17] dunno never dealt with it [00:17] there's a docklet thing that dealt with it i think [00:17] disk performance [00:17] well, otherwise my fan is just too loud... [00:17] xubuntu-goodies look that one up [00:19] there must be utilities from the manufacturer for that [00:19] im a noob [00:19] im quite shure there are manufacturer tools... for windows... [00:20] gnome-power-manager [00:20] nicofs, ^ [00:20] * residentgrey really is newb see? [00:21] residentgrey, everybody has to start somewhere. [00:21] 0 or 1 [00:21] huhu [00:22] but why does it have to be gnome? won't that be a problem under Xface? [00:22] Is there nothing... native? [00:22] or doesn't that matteR? [00:23] nicofs, there is an xfce power manager, but it's not as good as the gnome one. it doesn't really matter which one you use. [00:23] nicofs, and it's definitely not a problem. :) [00:25] well the xface power manager hardly gives me any options... [00:27] amazing... the gnome manager means 11MB of disk space just to adjust the CPU speed... [00:29] ok... installed it. but how do i integrate it? [00:32] ok, integrated gnome-power-manager. it's useless. [00:34] i can only tell it to dim the display or hibernate after being idle for x hours... i need an application to say my CPU (and that damn fan) to slow down. [00:34] just liki in windows. right click battery icon, click "Save Energy" and fan goes silent. [00:35] nicofs, i suppose you could also try to add the governor plugin into xfce panel [00:36] ok. how do i do that? [00:36] what processer [00:37] search for the word in the package manager [00:39] I've got an AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual Core processor TL-66 2.3GHz [00:40] (which has no understanding of the word silence) [00:41] you find a utility from their site for that? [00:41] nicofs, right click the panel, add new item and select governor plugin from the list and click add. [00:42] just installed that governor thing... i guess that's just what i was looking for. why doesn't that come with xubuntu by default? [00:42] nicofs, installed means what? [00:43] anyway, not all of our users need the plugin. remind you xubuntu works also with not-that-fast pc's which definitely need all their cpu power to run stuff. [00:43] knome are you familiar with fluxbox or blackbox/ [00:43] residentgrey, i've ran fluxbox for some weeks. how so? [00:43] how do I get it to actually run [00:43] it's not smth for the panel [00:44] hold on ima check if there's a man [00:44] residentgrey, you have to choose a session from the login manager [00:44] OH [00:44] might be, but i think that it doesn't need to be active. just an option. and i do think that being able to change cpu frequency is of importance. [00:45] nicofs, by installing do you mean you added it to the panel or did you have to install it in the repositories? [00:45] install and then add [00:46] and i think the xubuntu distribution wouldn't suffer from the additional 11kB [00:46] compare it to equal windows before ram comments lol [00:48] nicofs, anyway, did that solve your problem? [00:49] just this thougt: why is the weather update panel applet included. if that is important enough that surely controlling the PCs energy consumption is... well maybe im just getting too much into it. anyway: yes my problem is solved - thanks to all ;-) now i can sleep... [00:49] nicofs, what comes to including/not including... as you probably understand, there's hundreds and again hundreds pieces of software somebody would want us to include [00:50] nicofs, so it's better to keep it at somewhat really near the minimum, which also makes the inital D/L quicker... [00:50] i can unserstand that... but i think energy settings are one of the most basic things. an 11kB... come on... [00:51] nicofs, if you want to, please feel free to send a mail to our developers mailing list. i can make sure the thing is considered. :) [00:51] and a look in the "games" section reveals 16 games installed by default... [00:52] nicofs, yeah. if we didn't include any games, i think we'd see more people being mad at us than not including the governoe plugin [00:52] nicofs, just my opinion/gut feeling [00:52] well, as long as i am free to remove the games and add the tool... it's fine. it just doesn't make sense... [00:53] nicofs, heh, yeah. there are things that do not make sense. and you are definitely free to install and remove whatever you want :) have fun running xubuntu btw :) [00:53] thx... and gn8 [00:53] night :) [00:54] <__Techie__> i only just got here, but that looked like an interesting conversation === __Techie__ is now known as _Techie_ [01:01] i'm here for the next ten minutes or so. [01:01] (if you want to ask/discuss something) [01:02] knome what in the xubuntu setup that if not existent would break the system? [01:02] just being forewarned lol [01:03] residentgrey, umh, many things can lead to that. the basic rule would be; don't remove it if you don't know what removing it does for your system. [01:04] residentgrey, you pretty much can rip off any applications without seeing any difference [01:05] sweet how do I set the file manager to be something other than thunar? [01:05] another would be a good suggestion [01:06] residentgrey, i'm interested why you'd want to change to something else than thunar? [01:06] nautilus can see my old partitions [01:06] thunar can't [01:06] residentgrey, are they ext3 or something else? you can mount them so you see them, so you don't need to change file manager [01:07] ext3 [01:07] ? [01:07] oh [01:07] ntfs [01:07] !ntfs [01:07] ubottu, hello? [01:07] <_Techie_> hes there [01:07] gigolo is your friend [01:07] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [01:07] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:07] <_Techie_> there we go [01:07] oh that is already installed [01:07] residentgrey, see the link there :) [01:08] got 3g [01:08] residentgrey, do you have something in /media ? [01:09] maybe [01:09] I only had xubuntu for a week and am just now really messing with it [01:10] okay, check out if you can see the old partitions mounted in /media [01:11] nifty [01:11] they are there? [01:11] yes [01:12] great. you can then create shortcuts to them [01:12] residentgrey, do you need help with that? [01:12] is there a way to change the behaviour of the file manager? [01:12] like not having to triple click? [01:12] behaviour in which way? [01:13] residentgrey, you shouldn't need to triple click [01:13] adding context menu option [01:13] etc [01:13] 'reshacking' even :D [01:13] sorry, i don't know what you mean [01:14] just modding the programs in a weird wa [01:14] way [01:14] like changing resource files [01:14] hmm, okay [01:15] but that all doesn't matter compared to the lack of wifi [01:15] italia?? [01:16] !it | antonio_ [01:16] antonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [01:16] residentgrey, sorry, but i pretty much have to sleep now, it's 3am [01:16] lol ok [01:16] nite [01:16] i need to get food soon [01:16] residentgrey, i hope someone else can help you with the wifi [01:16] est here [01:16] well gonna be edt [01:17] residentgrey, especially if it worked with ubuntu, it WILL work on xubuntu [01:17] we'll see [01:17] yup. i'll be back tomorrow whatsoever, so... :) [01:17] have a good day and enjoy xubuntu [01:17] cool beans [01:17] i'll try lol [01:17] the 500m extra ram matters [03:33] <_Techie_> !ati [03:33] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [03:47] hmm... what does B stand for in apt output? [03:47] iBA libxine1-ffmpeg [03:48] !apt [03:48] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [03:52] <_Techie_> anyone had trouble with installs on a dell dimension 2400? [04:23] <_Techie_> howcome i dont seem to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst? [05:55] good morning Lords of the Kernal. [06:19] <_Techie_> morning bal [10:23] hello [10:23] hi [10:23] <_Techie_> 'ola amigo [10:23] in the current version of ubuntu my tv tuner card can not find any station [10:23] xub [10:24] now i realised that i have the previous installed too and i booted [10:24] <_Techie_> im sorry, tv tuners arent my area of expertise, anyone else care to help out? [10:24] now i can use the tvtuner without setting anything [10:25] what can cause this, the kernel? [10:26] don't have knowledge in that area too I'm afraid.. there maybe some useful info in dmesg [10:28] :) ok im on it :) [10:28] I think its probably a driver issue [10:28] yes i read that maybe it is not recognised well [10:29] i tried in the current to remove the module and reload with new parameters but i did not find the solution [10:30] so presumably the driver gets loaded ok but it doesn't show any information in the dmesg? [10:31] yesterday i posted some output to the paste.ubuntu but i dont remember the number [10:31] post it again :) [10:31] is this channel logged? [10:32] yep [10:32] !1984 [10:32] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [10:33] thanks [10:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/393547/ [10:33] it is the current [10:33] 9.10 [10:35] so when you booted to your previous setup, 9.04 I presume it works ok? [10:35] and you didn't make any adjustments to the antenna I suppose or anything like that? [10:36] yes this is correct [10:36] in 9.04 it works fine, the tvtuner can find stations [10:36] could this be an upgrade or clean install? [10:37] Guys, is Compiz easy to install & set up on 9.10? Gonna install it on my brother's laptop... [10:38] * Psilocybin_Elf will be right back, making tea. [10:38] hatake_kakashi, 9.04 and the 9.10 are both clean installs on different disks [10:38] <_Techie_> Psilocybin_Elf, compiz comes installed by default on ubuntu, as long as your graphics card can support it you can enable it [10:39] fuge, ahh so its dualboot, hmm I'd try recompiling the driver, if that option is available or download a newer driver binary blob [10:39] * Psilocybin_Elf nods. [10:39] So you'd recommend Ubuntu instead then? [10:39] hatake_kakashi, the tuner driver? bttv? [10:39] failing all that I suppose 9.10 is probably problematic on its own :) I'm still on 9.04 fyi [10:40] fuge, yeah pretty much [10:40] ok [10:40] It's just that Ubuntu uses Pulse Audio [10:40] Xubuntu doesn't [10:40] Psilocybin_Elf, Xubuntu is no different [10:40] 9.04 does also have pulseaudio.. in fact if anything is different between xubuntu and ubuntu is just the xorg frontend [10:41] I prefer Xfce [10:41] Not a fan of Gnome or KDE [10:41] hatake_kakashi, it helps anything to detect the problem if i try get outputs from 9.04 like i pasted from 9.10? [10:41] pulseaudio is a daemon running in the background and pretty much relies on console so if ubuntu would have it, xubuntu/kubuntu, etc would most likely have it [10:41] <_Techie_> Psilocybin_Elf, http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [10:41] Thanx :-) [10:41] <_Techie_> Psilocybin_Elf, its a bit old but it should help [10:42] fuge, well I dunno, I'd first give my suggestion a go before pasting output from 9.04.. but like I said previously I don't really have knowledge in tv tuner cards [10:43] ok [10:43] thanks [10:43] np [10:47] Thanx for that link, I will be using that for reference :-) [10:47] Hopefully it will work in 9.10 [10:47] Cheers [11:08] hi guys [11:09] I just installed xubunto on my desktop. i seem to have left the swap partition very low at 7mb. is there a way to resize it now? [11:12] tigerman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq [11:13] go down and se how to create swap partition [11:13] <_Techie_> !gparted tigerman [11:13] see [11:13] <_Techie_> !gparted [11:13] gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [11:14] <_Techie_> use that to shrink one of your partitions and increase your swap partition [11:14] may i ask what is the ideal size of swap partition? [11:14] how much ram mem you have? [11:14] 248 [11:15] <_Techie_> double your ram size is a general guideline [11:15] but my HD is huge [11:15] ok great. [11:15] ths alot [11:15] <_Techie_> np [11:15] create 1gb of swap [11:15] hm. do i need a cd for that? [11:15] no [11:16] the feature is built-in? [11:16] tigerman go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq [11:16] <_Techie_> there should be gparted in one of the menu's [11:17] <_Techie_> it will probably be under a different name though [11:17] ok. i will try it. [11:18] one more thing guys. am not sure how to get my display adapter driver installed. [11:18] im not really sure what's the adapter model [11:18] go to applications -> system -> hardware drivers [11:18] yeah it says nothing there [11:19] you have ati card? [11:19] am not really sure. it's kinda old desktop [11:19] the motherboard is Asus [11:20] it's built-in the MB [11:20] <_Techie_> it will most likely be intel or SiS [11:21] yes [11:21] <_Techie_> pastebig the output of lspci | grep VGA [11:21] so what's the best way to fix my display? [11:21] <_Techie_> pastebin* [11:22] oh. im not running linux now. i will on it soon and get back to u [11:22] lol [11:23] ah? whats so funny [11:23] actully it's my first linux-day ever. so pardon me! [11:23] am trying my best [11:35] <_Techie_> your doing well tigerman, most people give up before even thinking about coming here [12:08] <_Techie_> well, ive been on for long enough tonight, its 1:06am, ill be on tomorrow hopefully - peace out from New Zealand [12:08] _Techie_, night ;) [12:09] <_Techie_> katcha tomorrow knome [12:09] yup [12:28] Hello everyone! Is there anyone who can help me scaling my CPU speed? I've already tried Kpowersave (or something like that) and am currently using Governor - but they only work to a certain extent: they manage to set my processor into the 3 speeds supported. Here is my problem: that does not change the fan's speed: it has 3 modes as well (judging by sound:) Hurricane - Storm - Breeze. Uner windows vista and 7 in the powersave mode the fan [13:30] Hello everyone! Is there anyone who can help me scaling my CPU speed? I've already tried Kpowersave (or something like that) and am currently using Governor - but they only work to a certain extent: they manage to set my processor into the 3 speeds supported. Here is my problem: that does not change the fan's speed: it has 3 modes as well (judging by sound: ) Hurricane - Storm - Breeze. Uner windows vista and 7 in the powersave mode the fan [14:02] Good afternoon (GMT) to you gentlemen - I've been here before with this issue and ultimately had no success. I've got a rather old PC I'm building for a friend, an old SiS chipset, one of the early AMD Athlon CPUs. Basicly it won't halt. On shutdown it will run all the shutdown procedures and everything but leaves one message at the end that says "System Halted" but the machine doesn't power off. I've tried adding [14:02] acpi=force and lapic options to the boot options in GRUB. [14:02] Really unsure where to go from here, I've heard of several shutdown related bugs in the 2.6 kernel. [15:49] -2.6.31-14 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.31 [15:49] i still dont understand [15:49] and you booted with right kernel ? =) [15:49] yes [15:49] since usually you have all the kernels on grub-menu [15:49] which you have installed [15:49] so u did choose the right kernel [15:49] it only shows one kernel [15:49] !pastebin | abhifx_ [15:49] abhifx_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:49] can you paste the error for me [15:49] i cant paste the error, cuz i will have to kill my xserevr [15:49] and it's the one which you are using [15:49] yes [15:49] can you write it :) [15:49] i dont remeber it much... but it did said something like wrong kernel [15:50] cant i somehow delete the modifications the wrong driver did with my kernel? [15:50] knome, sorry, wrong paste command [15:50] abhifx_, okay, please be careful in the future [15:50] i am having problem with nvidia drivers, can someone help me? [15:50] i need to go in a few minutes, hope someone can [15:51] good luck, and remember you can also search the forums :) [15:52] knome, i did, for for no use. i hope someone will listen [15:52] we will. i have to go now, sorry. [15:52] knome, np [15:52] :) [15:54] can someone help me plzzzz [16:05] I all I'm having major problems setting up dyndns for my site, if anyone has used it please help if you can. thanks [16:56] goodbye! [17:49] Can anyone help? >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428936 [17:50] Psilocybin_Elf: I'm a bit confused, what are you trying to do? [17:50] I dunno if this is the right place to ask but... [17:51] I have a USB Audio Capture device [17:51] I'm trying to use in Xubuntu [17:51] EzCAP USB Audio [17:51] You mean a microphone or something? [17:51] It's USB thou [17:51] not phono [17:51] What exactly is it capturing? [17:52] I'm just a bit confused by what you're doing [17:52] Jack, i think [17:52] red/white cables [17:52] from my mixer [17:52] to USB [17:53] Right [17:53] So it's some sort of stereo audio source? [17:54] * Psilocybin_Elf nods. [17:54] It detects it ok [17:54] But I was just wondering how to set it to capture audio in ALSA [17:54] So i can use it with Audacity [17:55] I believe if you use alsa-mixer [17:55] Or if you use the volume utility - select the source and there should be a ticky box for inputs to select source [17:55] Isn't there? [17:55] I'll have a look [17:56] Done [17:57] I'll give it a go & report bk [17:59] In the meantime... [17:59] Hello fellow people! Are we all having a lovely time? I've got an issue with an old PC I'm putting together with Xubuntu Karmic - it doesn't shut down. Last message it gives me when I try is "System Halted." but the power doesn't actually turn off. I thought this was an ACPI issue was was told previously to add acpi=force and lapic to the boot options but this has unfortunatly not fixed the issue. I'm really unsure [17:59] about what could be causing it - any suggestions would be welcome - ANY! [18:00] bios upgrade for the motherboard? [18:01] I'm considering it but I can't for the life of me find information about the make of the motherboard [18:01] If I may direct you to a thread I posted about the issue, there's some pastes and stuff I've done in here [18:01] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/161367-xubuntu-not-powering-off-shutdown.html [18:02] Look the board itself over good. There should be something on it - even like LQ??? which id's it through google [18:02] I just tossed about 10 boards that were quite old. [18:05] whats the command for the hardware list? [18:09] lspci ? [18:09] lshw [18:09] one of those [18:12] thanks [18:12] friend is here...got some problems with his lan card [18:13] xubuntu doesnt recognize it [18:13] RE: USB Audio [18:13] It's still not working [18:14] Sachse_Siechtum: does it show up in hardware? [18:14] I have USB PnP Audio Device as default [18:14] thats what I'm looking after now [18:17] laptop wireless? [18:18] Psilocybin_Elf: you might have to google the device to see if anyone has installed in linux at all? [18:20] yes [18:25] Hey guys, iv sorted it now thanx :-D all working [18:26] Had to set it's preferences in Audacity [18:26] * Psilocybin_Elf is a happy bunny! [18:28] how do I cativate my Wlan= [18:28] ? [18:30] !wireless [18:30] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [18:30] is everything I know about it [18:51] hi,, [18:52] am trying to resize my partitions using gparted. but it that it couldnt find package gparted [18:54] install it. What is the problem? [18:55] isnt already built in? [18:56] I thought you were working in installed xubuntu. Are you in LiveCD? [18:57] yes iam [18:57] installed [18:57] i dont have any cds [18:58] ok. You see gparted it's just a program which don't bulit in in Ubuntu (don't say about xubuntu) [18:59] am using xubuntu [19:00] tigerman, 'sudo apt-get install gparted' should install gparted. no, it's not by default in xubuntu. [19:00] Then you need to install gparted [19:00] do i need to be connected to internet to do that? [19:01] Yes you need it. May be command "sudo apt-get install gparted " will help. [19:02] oh. i dont have internet on my linux machine at the moment [19:03] actully my system keeps hanging.. on start up [19:04] At the other hand if you have got any boot xbuntu/ubuntu thing (boot flash) you can use it to run gparted which bulit in there [19:04] yes i have the usb that i used to install the system [19:04] Besogon, to be exact, that's not gparted, it's just a partition editor. [19:05] could u pls guide me how to do it using the usb [19:06] knome, if I were tigerman I would use "sfdisk" insted of gparted [19:07] i just want to resize my swap partiton to make it larger [19:07] Besogon, it's just a matter of choice/taste. :) [19:08] Just stick it in you netbook (if it's netbook indeed). (and don't forget to point out first boot devise to be USB in your BIOS) [19:08] desktop [19:08] no metter [19:08] yes. then [19:08] am doing it as we speak [19:11] I had a problem with boot through usb when I installed ubuntu on my netbook. Main problem was in my "hooked hands", because I couldn't make right usb-boot device. :) It was my first experience with comand "dd" [19:11] now i got 4 options [19:12] which do i choose? [19:13] ubuntu, recovery, memory test, memory test serial console [19:13] what options do you have? (I'm not a fortune teller) [19:17] hmm [19:17] strange. Do you determine that it's boot menu from USBsticker? [19:17] i suppose, i did the same setting as when i install it first time [19:18] oh [19:18] seems something was wrong [19:18] i got it now [19:19] now i have 3 options on a gray screen 1. default 2. help 3. oem=OEM install [19:19] OK. You have got installed ubuntu on your hard drive. now you in (may be still in) grub boot menu. then chose "ubuntu item" [19:20] huh? [19:20] am at UNetbootin screen now [19:21] I don't know what you do. ))) When you boot from the usb you should see menu for choose language. Did you see it? [19:22] no [19:22] After it you should choose firs from top menu in the list [19:23] Let me show you. [19:23] yes pls [19:25] http://gdisauro.com/2008/05/xubuntu-hardy-installation/ [19:26] look at pictures [19:28] there are many screenshots form any linux too. http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%2010.04%20Alpha%203 [19:33] i dont know why am not getting those photos [19:34] any other options for me? [19:36] i manged to boot up from the usb and now am at desktop screen (via usb) [19:36] Are you sure that you have booted from USB? [19:37] yes. i can see the icon 'install xubuntu' which i used last time [19:37] Download a desktop image and put it on usb or cd-r [19:37] darn it, why it always hang suddnly [19:40] You have downloaded desktop image. ok. Then you chould check if the image is correct downloaded. (check md5) [19:41] Some people had problem with their installation when they didn't check md5. (last summer I speack with one of them) [19:44] where do i type check md5? [19:45] do you have total commander? [19:45] in Windows [19:48] Except of the image you have to download md5 file for one [19:50] hi there, looking to cycle workspaces in xubuntu with mousewheel (i.e. ctrl+roll-forward). Can anyone point me to some info on this? [19:51] Version? [19:51] 9.10 [19:52] tried looking in the keyboard bindings but this seems to only work for apps [19:53]