[10:45] hello. I have a question about integration app (PyGTK + appindicator module) into AppIndicator applet, so I will be very appreciate for any clues: could anyone tell me, please, how to "append"/"attach" (is it possible itself?) some text right next to some appindicator's icon? [10:54] ia: that's not possible, it would be against the design document [10:55] qense: ok, thanks for the answer. [10:55] you're welcome [13:47] vish, Is the Banshee monochrome icon working for you? [13:50] dashua: iirc Banshee has to use AppIndicator in order to use the monochrome icon. [13:51] dashua: I've written a patch for that, but it's not accepted yet. [13:53] I'm using it now from git [13:53] It's awesome. [13:54] dashua: What do you mean? Is there an AppIndicator in GIT already? [13:55] http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/46973/screenshot_1_dg7n5E.png [13:55] Just have to set the flag [13:55] --enable-appindicator [13:55] dashua: Since when is that? [13:56] The icon is not monochrome [13:56] dashua: I know, I wrote the darn patch. :P But I wasn't told that the patch was included. [13:56] HA [13:56] I guess it is ;) [13:56] Works great. [13:56] jcastro! [13:57] The only reason I was still using RB waiting fro the AppIndicator. [13:58] dashua: Are you sure you're using the plain git master? I can't find a recent commit of that patch. [14:00] Yeah [14:00] I can't find it anywhere in the code as well. [14:00] I can't find it either. [14:00] dashua: Where did you get the code from? [14:00] git://git.gnome.org/banshee ? [14:00] yeah [14:01] 1.6 RC1 [14:01] and you didn't apply any patch? [14:01] I don't see any RC tag as well. [14:02] http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/46974/screenshot_031_iNIKC6.png [14:02] I don't think I applied any patches [14:03] If you've got an AppIndicator you must have. I wouldn't know how you could have got the Application Indicator otherwise. [14:03] Not sure, but I love it ::) [14:03] :) [14:04] qense, I think I may have tried the 1.5.3 patch, but it did not pass. [14:05] I guess it did. [14:05] it must have [14:05] dashua: I'll take a quick look at the code to see how the icon name is selected. [14:05] I thought it was in master [14:05] It's most certainly not. [14:06] Yeah, I see that. [14:07] Humanity has it as banshee-panel [14:15] dashua: the icon is there , banshee needs to use it [14:17] vish: The icon name of Banshee is "media-player-banshee". [14:17] vish: That means that AppInd doesn't try 'banshee-panel', but 'media-player-banshee-panel', which doesn't exist. [14:17] vish: Would you mind renaming the icon? [14:22] http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/46977/screenshot_1_Lu44XX.png [14:22] There we go [14:23] media-player-banshee-panel [14:23] That worked [14:23] good [14:23] Thx [14:23] dashua: I assume the large amount of spacing between your menu items is your theme? [14:26] They all seems to have the same spacing. [14:26] seem* [14:27] ok [14:28] qense: ok , np.. i'll do it with the next update , since there was no mention on the bug report from the banshee devs ,i just used the same name as other apps [14:28] vish: It's a bit strange indeed, something they could have told you about. [14:28] maybe they assumed you'd look in the code for the name they use ;) [14:29] yeah , i forgot to check the bug before pushing the change :( [14:29] vish, Do you need a bug? [14:29] dashua: that would be nice [14:29] vish, Ok np. [14:38] qense: u are doing the app indicator for banshee right [14:38] http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/46977/screenshot_1_Lu44XX.png according [14:38] to that is show notification option really needed [14:38] one would hardly ever change that option. [14:42] tgpraveen12: That option was added by the Banshee developers. [14:42] tgpraveen12: I'm reusing the same context menu that's used for the regular status icon. [14:45] heh, this menu is a perfect just why we should write indicators from scratch :/ [14:46] qense: i would still suggest not having that option. maybe someone else should also comment on this. [14:46] i dont think there is any reason to resuse the same options as that of the regular status icon [14:46] app indicators were supposed to be about fixing things. just my 2 cents [14:47] tgpraveen12: I agree, there is no reason to enable/disable notifications from indicator [14:47] tgpraveen12, kklimonda: In that case I would file a bug against Banshee on GNOME Bugzilla with a request for removing that option from the status icon menu. [14:47] Or do you think it is suitable in the regular context menu? [14:48] tgpraveen12: heh, that's my point - if we are just reusing old interface and then make it even worse (by removing right click, tooltips etc.) then there is no reason to do that at all - we'll just piss users :/ [14:49] qense: my opinion is that the only place this setting should be at is preferences menu - and only if we really have to make it a setting. I'm pretty sure that the only reason why is it configurable is that there is no do-not-disturb mode for notifications. [14:49] ok [14:50] I agree with that, but I didn't want to edit the context menu without prior consent. [14:51] kklimonda, tgpraveen12: However, the whole project is frozen now they've already released the first release candidate for 1.6.0. [14:52] I'm even sure whether the AppInd patch will be accepted before the release. [14:55] qense: so its not going to be in lucid? [14:55] tgpraveen12: I've attached a patch to the Launchpad bug report that's suitable for applying to the Debian -- we sync Banshee -- package with quilt. [14:56] It's up to others whether an exception will be granted for this patch. [14:58] qense: do you know what is the future of appindicator? is it going to migrate to GtkAction and then be accepted by GTK+ guys or is it going to live as a Canonical-only "feature"? [14:59] kklimonda: Things similar to the whole Notify OSD and Indicators family are demonstrated in the GNOME Shell mock-ups, so I assume at the very least we'll see an implementation of something similar to the AppInd in GNOME. [16:20] anyone mind looking at this : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-soc/2010-March/000047.html :) [16:26] kitallis: I'm afraid you're in the wrong IRC channel for that. [16:27] kitallis: I'd try #ubuntu-gsoc [16:27] qense, try a /whois [16:27] ? [16:28] i've already discussed it over there. [16:28] They told you to discuss it here? [16:28] i was hoping to find someone interested, here. [16:28] Ah, in that case I'd advise you to come back on a working day when there are more people. [16:28] oh. alright. [16:33] kitallis: Mirco Müller, MacSlow on IRC, is leading the development of NotifyOSD a bit. You might want to talk to him. [19:05] what if upstream developers decide against "fixing" their applications to follow our new Units Policy? Should we patch them and take the beating?