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nonameNNi cant see "extract here" on my dolphin menus, what am i missing?00:06
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tamranhi guys, anyone here install Pioneers?00:11
tamranI'm curious why it wants to install so many packages00:12
thesteo82everytime i get a notification in the bottom corner, like when a message comes in, i get it popping up 3 times, everytime00:14
thesteo82anyone else seen that?00:14
Typos_KingI don't use it tamran00:14
santoshHello everyone00:14
Typos_Kingallo santosh00:14
santoshI am having problems editing a file, due to user rights, how can I get all right, I do know the pass for root00:15
Typos_Kingthesteo82.... yes and no, I get notifications, no 3 times per each, then again, when I've used kde WM, I don't use the WM, I use another :)00:15
santoshor is there a way to get rights to edit the file00:15
Typos_Kingsantosh:     sudo kate;   open it there :)00:15
robin0800santosh: kdesudo atcually00:16
Typos_Kinggksudo either00:17
robin0800Typos_King: you should not use sudo for graphical applications00:17
santoshsantosh# kdesudo kate00:17
santoshNo protocol specified00:17
santoshkdesudo: cannot connect to X server :000:17
Typos_Kingrobin0800:    ... anything wrong?00:17
santoshTypos_King: thats the error i git00:17
santoshgot00:17
Typos_KingI mean... I have, haven't broken anything yet00:17
robin0800Typos_King: Yes aparently it can mess up permissions00:18
Typos_Kingrobin0800:       hasn't for me... and I use Geany rooted for say, editing some files in /etc00:19
Typos_Kingin fact, I just checked one I did, the permisions are fine00:19
Typos_Kingsantosh    then try the kdesudo kate; ->  /usr/bin/kdesudo kate00:20
Typos_Kingerk00:20
Typos_Kingone sec00:20
Typos_Kingsantosh   is -> kdesu kate;00:20
Typos_Kinggksudo is probably there too, if you wish to use it00:21
robin0800Typos_King: http://linux.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=linux&cdn=compute&tm=31&f=00&su=p284.9.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo00:21
Typos_Kingrobin0800:    they make a 'poor' sale on the 'advantages' section, since all that's enforcable on a 'root' or regular account00:25
Typos_KingI mean, I had a root on SuSE10, and never had any issues, and quit often I 'su root' did what needed, and got out00:25
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Typos_KingI'm guessing there might be some unforeseen good reason, I think my book gave one..... can't recall, but I didn't find it that great of an 'advantage'00:27
tamranok, here's something annoying00:27
tamranI compile pioneers on another machine, then made a package and installed it on this machine fine.  If I try to install the same version in the repos, it wants to install 59 other packages (57 of which are not pioneers related).  I've played with it and it works just fine00:28
tamranam I going to have to do this with every (tiny) gnome app I install in order to avoice bloat?00:28
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Typos_Kingheh00:31
Typos_Kingtamran:     those are called 'dependencies' :P00:31
Typos_Kingthe difference between compiling one whole .rpm or .deb package, is that the one package will be say, 10mbs in one file, the 'tiny' ones are separated packaged dependencies which are brought up by packages who need it00:32
Typos_Kingand most likely the bunch of 'tiny' ones amount to about the same 10mbs as the big one00:33
Typos_Kingtamran:    when installing a package, the package manager checks what it needs, what's already installed, and substract what's installed and only 'fetches' what's not already installed off the list00:34
tamranTypos_King: after checking it was trying to install way more than it needs ...00:40
tamranit was trying to install half of gnome00:40
Typos_Kingtamran:     sounds like it's a gnome app, thus it'd need gnome libs, so00:40
Typos_Kingthat's understandable00:40
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tamranbut I installed the 1mb package and the program works fine ... I suspect the "requirements" are being over generalized00:41
tamranperhaps I'll have a problem someday with it, not sure ... but on 9.10 it didn't need any of that stuff00:41
tamranperhaps this is a lucid questino00:42
tamranso I'll ask there00:42
Curly_QI would like to edit copy paste with ssh Tectia Windows Client. I am now in root@hostname. I would like to give myself permissions to edit anything I need for Apache2. What is the chown or chmod command for that?00:42
Typos_Kingahh lucid00:43
Typos_Kingis in alpha3 afaik......soooo00:43
Typos_Kingmaybe is a newer version of the app, who knows00:44
faultlineOk i need some serious help...00:45
Typos_KingCurly_Q:    what's Apache2?00:45
Curly_QThe latest Kubuntu Apache2.00:46
faultlineI cant seem to dual boot windows 7 or even reformat or use my factory recovery- I have also tried other boot disks for various forms of windows, I get a file system error...00:47
Typos_KingCurly_Q:     soooooo, what do you need?00:47
tamranhow does one add a launcher to the panel? I have a program that doesn't have an icon00:48
Curly_QJust to ssh and delete anything in this directory and be able to add new sub directories:   /usr/share/apache2/default-site/index.html00:48
Typos_Kingtamran:    drag n drop, the icon off the menu00:49
tamranwell, it's for a special application (using screen and some other commands to a script)00:49
tamranso I want to add a "special" command00:49
Typos_KingCurly_Q:    I'm assuming you have permissions to it.... I'd think in SSH it'd the same as in bash -> rm -fr /usr/share/apache2/00:50
Typos_Kingwell00:50
Curly_QMaybe edit the .hpasswrd file and a few other things pertaining to a web page. Also in the future to add an ircd daemon.00:50
Typos_Kingyeah00:50
sam_hey00:50
Typos_Kingtamran:   make it a script and call it from the shortcut :)00:51
tamranTypos_King: ok, so just add any apps icon like normal and then just modify it?00:51
Curly_QI am in root so I don't see why I cannot just copy and paste or delete   rwx into it.00:51
Typos_Kingtamran:    yeah, that works too, you can edit it00:52
Curly_QI did a sudo -i and have root@hostname00:52
Curly_QWhen copying and pasting or deleting, access is denied.00:53
Typos_Kingthen I guess you don't have permissions to it00:53
Typos_Kingor your'e not root'ed, who knows00:53
Curly_QHow would I give myself permissions for that?00:54
faultlineI cant seem to dual boot windows 7 or even reformat or use my factory recovery- I have also tried other boot disks for various forms of windows, I get a file system error...can anyonwe help me figure out why?00:54
Curly_QI just installed Kubuntu. It started me off with one password entry and not like old Red Hat where it asked for root password and /usr password.00:55
Typos_Kingfaultline:   well, what's specifically happening, other than the fact it isn't dual booting00:56
Curly_QI did the login with the only usr and did a sudo into root and got  usr@hostname   not with sudo -i it is root@hostname.00:56
Typos_KingCurly_Q:    once in an SSH session logged into a remote box, the permissions that apply are the ones granted/set on the remote box to the logged in account00:56
faultlineIt wont dual boot, I cant reformat the drive, i cant use my factory recovery disk to bring back windows (I cant make wine work)  and no one can tell me what the hell to do -.-00:57
smokealotwhy cant you format the drive and install an os?00:58
Typos_Kingfaultline:   well, what's specifically happening, other than the fact it isn't dual booting00:58
faultlineError 1005.00:58
Typos_Kingfaultline:   we got that part that it doesn't boot, but that doesn't tell us how it happens00:59
faultlineAnd....00:59
faultlineOk, i put in the disk.  It starts up, gets to 'partion confirmation' and gives me error 100500:59
Typos_Kingsooooooo01:00
Typos_Kingit never installed kubuntu?01:00
Typos_King9.1? 8.x?01:00
faultline...Im on kubuntu.  9.1.  Windows wont load at all so I can at least dual boot, and the only thing other then that that I have is my factory recovery disk01:00
faultlineWhich won't even work, nothign really does since I switched to kubuntu...01:00
mefisto__faultline: is there a windows entry in the grub menu?01:01
faultlineI don't know man :/01:02
faultlineIm completely lost in this linuxy world.01:02
mefisto__faultline: so what are you doing to try booting windows??01:02
Curly_QFaultline, I can tell you what I did for that problem. I had to first use an old Windows98 boot disk with SMART on it. Then in the command prompt, run smart.exe twice with CD support. Use fdisk and delete the partitions first. Make sure you set the BIOS settings to see your other hard drive if there is one. Make sure when you use the fdisk use the command fdisk/mbr. Then you can delete with fdisk all of the partitions and create a lo01:03
mefisto__it should look something like this, with linux entries and an entry at the bottom for windows: http://www.davestechsupport.com/blog/images/grub.png01:04
smokealotfaultline you tried loading your cd/dvd rom first with the windows cd in it?01:04
Curly_QThen format the windows partition with Windows and install Windows there. With the second logical partition, use Linux.01:05
smokealotbest bet is to killdisk your hd and make your cdr/dvdr boot first with the windows/recovery cd in it01:06
Curly_QFaultline, the only thing to remember is that when Windows installs such as XP it will create a second partition for its OS.01:09
faultlineWhat I am attemptign to do is go back to windows because I cant make WinE work with Requiem: Memento Mori -OR- City of Heroes/Villains EVEN THOUGH I am following directions as told on the site :/01:09
Curly_QFaultline, one more Tech Tip is that once you install especially Windows, use a software such as Acronis which will back not only your data but it will back all of the sectors and partitions as well. When Windows does crash or gets a virus and it will, you can put right back on your hard drive a mirror image of your stuff. Always backup before installing anything.01:13
Curly_QStart brand new and back up all of your data first. Make sure you slave your hard drive to recover any valuable data first.01:14
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sherman_Hi, all.....I'm having some problems with my kde install.....Fresh install, yet, it has continuous issues with both shutting down and restart. Often it will simply count down, the music will almost play, and thats it. I have to use the poweer button to get it to shut down. ANy ideas or suggestions?01:16
Typos_King8.x? 7.x?01:16
sherman_9.1001:17
sherman_I dont know which versio  of KDE....WHichever one is installed with the kubuntu-desktop.01:18
Typos_Kingright01:18
Typos_Kingwell01:18
Typos_Kingis nothing new01:18
Typos_Kingjust the drivers   I gather01:19
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boessleepnn all :w01:20
sherman_Thats not really helping me solve it. =)01:20
sherman_Night, boessleep01:20
mefisto__sherman_: so it's never shut down or restarted properly, ever?01:20
Typos_Kingheheh01:21
sherman_mefisto__: It has a few times, but not very often.01:21
mefisto__sherman_: can you log out and get back to the login screen (kdm)?01:21
sherman_I hadnt tried that.....JUst restart and shutdown01:22
Typos_Kingheheh01:22
sherman_Gimme a few minutes and I'll see.01:22
mefisto__sherman_: because it sounds like it's logging out properly, which happens before shutdown01:22
mefisto__*not* logging out01:23
shermanNope, not logging out properly either, mefisto__. I had to shutdown via power button again.01:26
smokealotdid you apt-get upgrade after the fresh install?01:28
shermanmefisto__: ll logout did was partially terminate some process'.01:28
shermansmokealot: I didnt know I needed to......Leme try it.01:28
shermansmokealot: Said nothing needed upgrading.01:29
smokealoti had the same problem a while back i did an entire system upgrade and it worked fine just after01:29
mefisto__smokealot: same here01:29
mefisto__smokealot: I also smoke quite a bit :)01:30
shermanI started with a basic gnome install, did the updates, then installed kubuntu-desktop....01:30
smokealoti smoke 3 packs a day almost :/01:31
smokealotplus my marryjane01:31
mefisto__mr smokestoomuch01:31
Curly_QOpen up a Terminal and just type:   halt    <-------<    Computer will shut down.01:32
shermanBeen having this problem since then. Tried kpackagemanager, said my system was uptodate...01:32
shermanCurly_Q: Not an option.01:32
Curly_QCommand line and then halt01:32
smokealotsherman your using gdm?01:33
shermanCurly_Q: command line is not an option. This is non-negotiable.01:33
Typos_King...  I usually do -> sudo poweroff01:33
shermansmokealot: Yes, gdm01:33
mefisto__sudo shutdown now, or sudo reboot would be better.01:34
smokealotyou should try using kdm instead of gdm01:34
shermanOK, so we can quit with the advice of using command line shutdowns, this system is not mine, its for a windows user, and the gui functions need to work. This is also the first time I have ever run into this problem.01:36
shermanThats why I am here looking for advice on it. =)01:37
mefisto__sherman: kdm instead of gdm, as smokealot said01:38
shermanYes, I switched when I installed kde in the first place. Sorry, I misread earlier.01:39
FirefisheI'm experiencing a strange matter with grub:  Everytime I do a kernel upgrade, the kernel gets installed, but menu.lst is never updated with the new kernel entry after the new update/install process.  I always end up editing menu.lst manually.  This works, but is rather vexing, considering that it should do it automatically.01:40
smokealotupdate-grub01:40
Firefishesmokealot:  Well, that thing is, as the new packages are being updated, that particular part is run automatically when it installs.  I reboot the system for such upgrades, anyway, but when I get the new boot menu, the new kernel entry is never there.  It just started doing this.01:41
Firefishesmokealot:  I'm just wondering if it's a grub-vs-grub2 something or other.  I use grub not grub 201:42
smokealotdo you install the kernel with dpkg ?01:44
shermanAny other ideas on where the issues might be?01:44
mefisto__sherman: is this a laptop?01:44
shermanmefisto__: Yes.01:44
shermanAn older Toshiba.01:45
mefisto__sherman: and I assume it has wireless? can you switch wireless off on the laptop?01:45
smokealotahh yes01:45
shermanHmmm01:46
shermanI guess I can......01:46
smokealotsherman if nothing els works, remove both kde/gnome gdm/kdm and install just one ):01:47
shermanOK, switching it off via the external switch kinda fails....01:48
mefisto__ifconfig wlan0 down  before shutting down will turn it off. if shutdown is normal after that, you can insert that command in a shutdown script so the wireless doesn't get in the way of the shutdown process01:51
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shermanThanks, mefisto__, lemme see if that helps any.01:52
mefisto__sherman: that's assuming the wireless device name is wlan. it usually is, but not always01:54
faultlineThis is seriously annoying me01:55
faultlineMy pc was fine at doin crap until I installed Kubuntu 9.1 and now I cannot reformat my drive at all because of some stupid file system error that never existed before...01:55
xjjkfaultline: filesystem error?01:56
faultlineYaeh.  1005 or whatnot.  Not my disk, its in perfect condition.01:56
faultlineIm usin my factory restore01:56
xjjkwhat's reporting that01:56
xjjkfactory restore?01:56
faultlineAnd it won't restore because of file system error01:56
faultlineYEah01:56
xjjkyou're blaming linux/kubuntu for problems in your OEMs factory restore software?01:57
faultlineGive me a good reason it randomly have that error?01:57
smokealotfaultline format your hd with killdisk01:57
smokealotreinstall windows01:57
xjjkfaultline: the software is buggy/has problems?01:58
mefisto__faultline: are you sure windows won't boot?01:58
faultlineYes01:58
faultlineim sure it wont boot.01:58
faultlineOr I wouldnt be here lol, Ive been tryin to boot or restore since 8am today01:58
faultlinethats 12 hours01:58
faultlineo.o01:59
mefisto__faultline: because I asked earlier if you have a windows entry in the grub menu, and you said "I don't know"01:59
Brhad56speaking of grub.  I find it a bit annoying that I see like 8 different linux kernels i can choose from.  Is there a way to make it default to say like maybe 2 or 3?02:01
smokealotfaultline some windows recovery cds will not install over linux02:01
smokealotformat your hard drive02:01
smokealotthats all02:02
mefisto__faultline: do you have any windows install disks? XP, win98, anything?02:02
xjjkBrhad56: yeah... that is annoying02:02
xjjkBrhad56: AFAIK the only way is to remove older kernels02:02
mefisto__Brhad56: you could uninstall the kernels you don't need02:02
Brhad56mefisto__: is there a front-end to doing so?  I normally use Adept02:04
mefisto__Brhad56: adept should work. search for "linux-image" and remove the kernels you don't want02:06
mefisto__Brhad56: eg, linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic and so on02:07
Brhad56mefisto__: adept isn't smart enough, i guess02:07
mefisto__Brhad56: why not? what's wrong?02:09
Brhad56mefisto__: nothing returns when searching for linux-image.  when searching for just "linux" nothing looks close enough02:10
kris__!fglrx02:12
kris__!fglrx02:13
mefisto__Brhad56: you get just an empty list? is the filled-in square icon (show installed packages) dimmed out?02:13
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:13
DaughainHmmmmm....OK, where do I find ifconfig?02:13
mefisto__Brhad56: should look like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/Dp4jVU.html02:14
mefisto__Daughain: open konsole and type it02:14
jeanphilippebonjour qui peux me dire comment mettre mon bureau en 3d sur kubuntu02:15
Daughainmefisto__: OK, shutting down wireless doesnt help on the shutdown or reboot....02:20
renanp02:22
renanboa noite pessoal02:23
frank____хуй02:25
frank____вы все говно02:26
frank____проснулись, быстро02:27
frank____hello02:27
frank____hi? all02:28
DaughainAye.02:28
renangood night people!02:28
frank____бля, ну хоть кто-то ответил02:28
frank____233 people and all stupid02:29
frank____23402:29
frank____=)))))))))))))))))))002:30
smokealotmaybe we cant understand what your saying02:30
smokealotmaybe some of us dont understand "frank____> бля, ну хоть кто-то ответил"02:30
frank____yes, because i,m russian02:30
frank____ЫЫЫЫЫЫЫЫ02:31
Firefishehow does grub differ from grub2?02:31
xjjk"stupid" is the person that didn't read the channel's guidelines about it being English-only02:31
xjjkFirefishe: grub is old; grub2 is new02:31
OutBackDingoboy someone really screwed up lucid updates02:31
xjjkthat's the one line summary02:31
frank____fuck yourself xjjk02:31
smokealotlol02:31
OutBackDingocant even get a console login prompt or kdm02:31
frank____))))02:31
shermanIntelligent response there.02:31
xjjkthat's on the guidelines as well02:31
Firefishexjjk:  Umm....ya! ;)  I know that, silly, I'm referring to the *operational characteristics* of course.02:32
smokealotdon't be mad it's your fault for not reading the topic frank02:32
xjjkFirefishe: well, they're both boot loaders...02:32
smokealotask your question in english someone might be able to help02:32
xjjkFirefishe: mostly, the difference is engineering/political02:32
xjjkFirefishe: grub-legacy is no longer maintained02:32
xjjkgrub2 is everyone's love child that's getting active development, new features, etc02:32
OutBackDingoanyone in here possible help recover from last nights lucid updates02:32
xjjkgrub-legacy has more documentation; grub2's documentation is lacking02:33
frank____Zadrobl02:33
xjjkgrub2 also has a nice number of bugs02:33
xjjkas well as some new features (CD image booting, etc)02:33
Firefishexjjk:  Ok, let me put this another way.  I recently updated to 9.10 from 9.04.  During the upgrade, it failed.  I had to finish it off using a combination of multiple instances of `sudo apt-get upgrade' and `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'; I continued this until I was certain that my system was, indeed, 9.10 and not a 9.04 'frankensystem.'02:34
xjjkFirefishe: er, so you were using apt-get to upgrade?02:34
bigtom21485anyone compared ubuntu to kubuntu?02:35
bigtom21485not sure which one i want02:35
xjjkbigtom21485: everyone in here is going to tell you Kubuntu02:35
smokealotlol02:35
smokealoti think Kubuntu is better02:36
Daughainbigtom21485: Defone compare/ =)02:36
smokealotbecause i like kde better (:02:36
Firefishexjjk:  Not intially.  I was using the standard update manager, but the upgrade failed in mid-stream.  I had no choice but to use the aformentioned methods.  Yesterday, I had the pleasure of assisting, locally, a gentleman with a new install of 9.10.  He had it on some type of Dell laptop, and I was intrigued to see that grub2 was--probably--installed by default.02:36
tyfonyou can have both desktops in at the same time ;)02:36
xjjkFirefishe: grub2 is installed by default in 9.04 afaik02:36
OutBackDingosmokealot: yeah but not after lucid updates last night, its time for a new distro02:36
xjjkFirefishe: using apt-get is the source of it's own problems... it's not supported at all for upgrading between releases02:37
OutBackDingolock me out of my laptop oonce and youll be deleted02:37
smokealotOutBackDingo: whats wrong?02:37
OutBackDingolucid updates from last night, no longer get a console login or kdm02:37
xjjkFirefishe: it was made default because grub2 supports ext4, which I think ubuntu wants to transition to as the default02:38
xjjkthe old grub also gets little/no updates02:38
OutBackDingojust freezes at the damn splash screen02:38
Firefishexjjk: Still, it is the defacto 'standard' of debian-distro-based, command line package management, and considering that one *must* use dpkg, itself, for installing certain stand-alone .deb's, why apt-get wouldn't continue to be supported is beyond me.  This *is* gnu/linux, after all.02:38
xjjkOutBackDingo: have you figured out where it's freezing?02:38
xjjkOutBackDingo: you shouldn't be using lucid if you don't know how to diagnose/debug these problems, BTW02:38
OutBackDingoxjjk: cant do anything, cany escape from the splash screen at all02:38
xjjkFirefishe: well, it doesn't matter... it's not supported02:39
xjjkOutBackDingo: on the grub command line remove "quiet" and add "nosplash"02:39
OutBackDingoxjjk: yeah nice comment, ive been running linux since 0.9602:39
xjjk...so you should know better than use development releases02:39
Firefishexjjk: Well, not officially, but the *community* is what I'm interested in, not so much commercial establishement (which is why I'm here, and not talking to Canonical, as-it-were.)02:39
xjjkFirefishe: well, my experience is that it works so unreliably, I just don't use it02:40
OutBackDingoxjjk: right, im a developer, jeez im not an idiot, just asked for information02:40
shermanOK, still no luck on the shutdown/reboot issue......Any other ideas?02:41
xjjkOutBackDingo: I'm not trying to insult you or anything, but don't expect much of a warm welcome when you're threating to change distros02:41
xjjkespecially when the fault is essentially yours for using a development distribution and not knowing how to fix it02:41
xjjkFirefishe: er, so, how does this relate to your grub question again?02:41
FirefisheOutBackDingo:  What version are you using?02:41
OutBackDingoxjjk: well it kinda threw me since i had important data i needed today, and it is the first time ive ever gotten locked out completely02:41
xjjkOutBackDingo: did you get any useful information from booting without the splash/non-quiet mode02:42
Firefishexjjk:  I wanted to know why, when I upgrade my kernel image, that the new kernel never appears in the /boot/grub/menu.lst after the install/reboot process.02:42
OutBackDingoxjjk: nope in windows now have to reboot to check it02:42
OutBackDingobrb02:42
xjjkFirefishe: /boot/grub/menu.lst is not used anymore02:42
xjjkFirefishe: check /boot/grub/grub.cfg02:43
FirefisheI can see the update-grub command being run, but it doesn't seem to do anything.02:43
xjjkFirefishe: also, don't edit that file directly... configuration is controlled by /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub02:43
Firefishexjjk:  Unfortunately, I've had to edit menu.lst manually, carefully copying the previous entries, save for the new kernel parameters.  All the files are there, it just won't do it using update-grub.02:44
xjjkFirefishe: are you using grub1 or grub2 as your bootloader?02:44
Firefishexjjk:  I'm not using grub1.02:44
Firefishenix that02:44
FirefisheI'm *using* grub1, not grub2.02:44
xjjkFirefishe: ah02:44
xjjkFirefishe: remove grub202:44
Firefisheit's not installed02:44
xjjkand reinstall grub-legacy (that's the new package name)02:44
Firefishexjjk:  I've got synaptic up, and it's not grub-legacy on my system, just grub.02:46
xjjkFirefishe: what version are you using? grub should be a transitional package that installs grub-legacy02:46
Firefisheversion of kubuntu?02:47
xjjkFirefishe: probably, I'd purge all installed versions of grub (and backup/remove your config files)02:47
xjjkand then reinstall what you want02:47
Firefishewb obd02:47
xjjkFirefishe: er, nevermind.. it's grub-legacy in Debian, not Ubuntu02:47
xjjk"grub" is grub102:47
Firefishexjjk:  ah, I see02:47
OutBackDingoxjjk: hrmmm seems removing them i now get into kdm02:47
OutBackDingowonder if the spalsh os broken02:48
xjjkOutBackDingo: maybe something buggy with the splash02:48
xjjkOutBackDingo: you should try to diagnose that...02:48
FirefisheI've already tried grub2, and it seemed to work okay.  I just didn't know where the new menu entry file was.  What did you say it was again?  /boot/grub/grub.cfg?02:48
xjjkFirefishe: yes02:48
Firefisheis `update-grub' still the command used to update it?02:48
xjjkyes02:49
xjjktechnically update-grub202:49
Firefishexjjk:  Thank you, that clarifies a lot of things.02:49
Firefisheah...makes sense02:49
xjjkupdate-grub will symlink to update-grub2 if grub2 is your default; else it'll be the grub1 updater02:49
xjjkwhich is probably what's wrong02:49
xjjkyou're using grub1 but update-grub is updating grub2 config files only because it thinks you're using that, not grub102:49
Firefisheah...I see.02:50
FirefisheNow, one thing I noticed:  During the grub2 installation sequence, it asked me--and I set it up subsequently--to chainload grub2 from the grub1 menu structure.  Should I just avoid this and install grub2 as the default boot loader?02:50
xjjkthe chainloading thing is a check to make sure grub2 actually works02:51
xjjkwhich you may want todo02:51
FirefisheI see...02:51
xjjkit'll load grub1; from there you can select to load grub2; from there it boots the OS02:51
Firefishexjjk: If it works, then what is the process to make it the default bootloader, and remove grub1's stuff?02:51
xjjkFirefishe: I'm not sure... but purging all packages and then installing only what you want should do it02:52
FirefisheI *can* edit menu.lst indefinitely if need be, but whyyyyyy ;)?02:52
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Firefishexjjk:  purging via the command line, as in:  sudo apt-get remove filename --purge  ??02:52
xjjkFirefishe: I really would use aptitude instead of apt-get directly02:53
Firefishexjjk:  aptitude's commands puzzle me.  I'm familiar with apt-get.02:53
xjjkFirefishe: well, up to you02:53
Firefishexjjk:   I'll do a manpage lookup02:53
xjjkI don't like using apt-get directly, it's a little opaque02:53
tamrandoes anyone know how to find out what exactly python is running?02:53
xjjkit's easy to do things that will screw up things02:54
Firefishexjjk:  aptitude's been apt-get's replacement for some time now.  It's about time I figured it out, anyway.02:54
xjjkFirefishe: it's not a replacement02:54
tamranright now, python is using over 30mb of ram, and I wanted to just see what it's doing02:54
xjjkapt-get is supposed to be a low-level tool02:54
xjjkaptitude is a high-level tool02:54
Firefishexjjk:  Well, dpkg is really low-level, but I still use it to install some .deb's I may need, now and again.02:54
Firefishexjjk: I'm really quite careful.02:55
xjjkyes, dpkg is even lower level than apt-get02:55
Firefishexjjk:  but sometimes it is the right tool for the job-at-hand.  I don't use it often, as most of the stock stuff works fine.02:55
FirefisheI work with some weird things now and again, however, and sometimes I just need certain files.  If there's a suitable .deb, I use it, if not, compile it, etc.02:56
shermanAny idea what would cause Leave/Shutdown or reboot to fail??02:56
Firefishexjjk:  I do try to keep the weird stuff separate from the mainstream libraries, if at all possible.  Just good practice, imho.02:56
Firefishebrb03:02
tamrancan anyone name a decent (preferably light weight) torrent client for kde other than ktorrent or transmission?03:03
tamranpreferably something that works with magnet links03:03
xjjktamran: did you want a GUI?03:05
xjjkI'd recommend transmission honestly03:05
tamranxjjk: preferably, yeah03:05
tamranxjjk: I could do one inside I screen session I guess03:05
xjjkrtorrent?03:06
tamranthanks xjjk, looking now03:06
tamranahh, it's ncurses03:06
tamranthis could work03:07
xjjktamran: what did you not like about transmission03:07
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tamranxjjk: I like it, but two issues in KDE03:07
tamran1) magnet links don't work (I think that's more a kde setup thing because out of the box it works in gnome)03:07
tamran2) it has no setting (in qt version) to make it sit in my status bar on the panel03:08
xjjktamran: I see... seem like GUI issues03:08
tamrantwo not so small things, but I keep closing it fully by accident, when I really just want to minimize it (force of habbit)03:08
xjjkI don't regularly use the GUI myself03:08
xjjkI use the command-line interface03:08
tamranno problem03:09
tamranI'm in irssi so I know what you mean03:09
xjjkwell, transmission-remote (the command-line client) isn't interactive03:09
xjjki.e. no ncurses or anything03:09
Matissehi03:10
Matissewhen will kde 4.4 be part of kubuntu?03:10
xjjkin the next release03:10
tamranMatisse: you can get it with 9.10 if you want it03:10
tamranMatisse: check the news feed in the kubuntu page and they say how to get it with 9.1003:11
tamranMatisse: there'll be a few "bumps" when you do it that way though, but are easily fixable03:11
Matisseok, ill have a look03:11
Matissethx03:12
tamrannp, good luck03:12
shermanAny ideas about why I cant reboot this system via the gui?03:12
tamransherman: did you just do a heavy upgrade? I had that problem earlier today03:13
shermanI did a fresh install, not an upgrade..03:14
tamranoh03:14
tamrandid you update after?03:14
tamranwhen I did a load of kde updates I was not able to reboot with the button03:14
shermanYup. Update software sources and os.03:15
tamranhave you rebooted since (via command line)?03:15
shermanI get occasional times when it reboots or shuts down properly, but most of the time it doesnt.....Manually shutting down wifi doesnt help, nor did removing gnome help.03:15
shermanYup, rebooted a couple of times via cl./03:16
tamranok03:16
tamrandang, sorry man03:16
shermanNO big deal, eventually someone will have some more ideas. =)03:16
tamranyou could probably use a button on the panel to do it that uses ksudo and the command for a workaround03:16
tamranbut that doesn't sound good :(03:16
shermanNot really. I'm setting this one up for someone switching from windows, so, I need everything to work.03:17
tamranwhat are you running? kubuntu or ubuntu?03:17
shermanThe amusing part is, done 8 setups, and never seen this problem before.03:17
tamranprobably a silly question since thsi is kubuntu channel03:17
reboot09Hi all03:18
shermanUbuntu install, installed kubuntu-desktop from term, removed gnome via term....All the updates, etc......Ever since I booted into kubuntu I have had this issue....Andm it seems to degrade, the longer I am in kde.03:18
reboot09im having a problem grabbong BitchX03:19
tamransherman: I know what you mean ... I've had nothing but issues diong that stuff myself.  Once with xubuntu even \03:19
reboot09got 404 error  wget http://www.bitchx.com/download/Bitch...l-linux.tar.gz03:19
reboot09any help?03:20
tamransince it's a fresh install, are you willing to install kubuntu straight away? it might fix things a bit?03:20
shermantamran: This is the first time I have ever had any issue installing kubuntu.03:20
shermanAndm of course it is on a system for someone else. =)03:20
tamransherman: but did you do Ubuntu -> Kubuntu. or just Kubuntu straight from CD?03:20
shermanUbuntu->Kubuntu......Same way I do all my installs.03:21
reboot09never mind works now sorry to jump in03:21
tamransherman: that has never worked for me ... I stopped even tryign that03:22
shermanNo worries  reboot09, but I coudlnyt help ya anyway on that one.03:22
tamransherman: I don't know why though, I mean it all should work03:22
shermantamran: I;ve had 7 or 8 inbstalls this way with no issues.....03:22
shermanNot counting all the reinstalls I have done on ly gateway. =)03:23
shermanOK, gonna give up on this one for a while.....03:25
_guest___hi all03:29
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tamrancan anyone help me with magnet links? how do I make them work in KDE (in xdg-open)?03:31
tamranchromium trys to issue a command using xdg-open but it never finds the client03:32
bigtom21485anyone know does ubuntu or kubuntu support wacom tablets?03:40
bigtom21485i hate windows so im switching regardless but I was wondering sinc ei do have a tablet pc03:41
mefisto__bigtom21485: yes, kubuntu definitely does, pretty sure ubuntu would too03:42
ipwnudoes anyone know of a tutorial that shows you how to encrypt your swap partition post-installation?03:46
Daughainmefisto__: How do I turn on wlan0 from term?03:46
mefisto__ifup command03:49
mefisto__so, sudo ifup wlan003:49
DaughainThanks, yet again. =)03:50
DaughainOK,can someone give me a page that explains how to add hardware to ifconfig??03:51
lantiziaOh Noes... I have no sound - well at least not with VLC or Flash player anyway... Dragon Player works just fine03:59
lantiziaany ideas? I'm normally a ubuntu user not kubuntu - so not sure how to diag this phonon thingy04:00
sea__I dunno lantizia, but when I switched to ubuntu temporarily something similar happened, I had to raise the volume in gnome-volume-control, but I dunno if it'll work for you04:03
lantiziasea__: good tip :) I went for alsa-mixer instead and found the PCM was at 0#04:04
sea__Did that fix it? I thought alsa and phonon were different things?04:05
lantiziasea__: dunno... but I guess KDE apps go direct to phonon and flash/vlc go direct to alsa some how ?!04:06
mefisto__lantizia: I think that's right. but alsa also goes through phonon. so everything ends up going through phonon. linux sound is such a mess04:08
mefisto__here's a diagram that makes it clearer: http://imagebin.ca/view/4FoUFue.html04:11
DaughainAny help or ideas on getting this wireless card turned?04:21
mefisto__!wireless04:24
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:24
DaughainThanks. =)04:25
felipe__hi everyone.04:32
smokealothi04:33
felipe__I have a doubt. if a do the command line "man fwrite" (for example) the shell says the don't have the manual entry for fwrite.04:33
felipe__when I was using Fedora, this comand line worked very well.04:34
smokealotdo you have fwrite installed?04:35
felipe__no, this a C comand.04:35
felipe__in Fedora, if a have a doubt about any function in C, I just do the comand "man"04:35
felipe__and then, the manual of the function shows up.04:36
felipe__but i cant do this in Kubuntu.04:36
xjjkfelipe__: aptitude install manpages-dev04:36
xjjkdev man pages are in a different package04:37
felipe__i'll try that.04:37
felipe__thanks a lot. it worked.04:39
felipe__this manuals help a lot while I'm programing something.04:39
xjjkfelipe__: it's one of those damned if you damned if you don't-type things04:39
xjjkpeople would complain Kubuntu wasted disk space installing things people don't use/need if it was included in another package or installed by default04:40
felipe__but ins fedora installation, its possible choose packages for developing, for example.04:42
xjjkfelipe__: don't think you chose such a thing when installing Kubuntu04:42
xjjkwhich is another damned if you, damned if you don't scenario04:42
xjjkwhat is too many questions to ask during installation, and do those questions mean anything04:43
felipe__I know that.04:43
Malin_maskina frøys sånn ca :S04:44
felipe__but, for a developer like me, I think thats important to install packages like that.04:44
doleybdevelopers are more likely to figure that out than most users04:50
xjjkfelipe__: it depends what kind of developer you are04:51
xjjkif a python developer, you probably don't care about C man pages04:51
felipe__thats right.04:51
xjjkif a Qt GUI developer, you probably don't care either04:51
xjjkand if a system C develope04:51
xjjkyou don't care about Python or Qt docs04:51
felipe__xjjk: I agree with you. thats because this installation option is optinal in Fedora(of course!)04:52
felipe__xjjk: but I have bad experiences with Fedora, so I'm using Kubuntu know04:53
felipe__xjjk: and I'm having no trouble at all.04:54
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tamranyou know ... speaking of documentation ... whatever happened to HTML? wasn't it supposed to be the defacto-standard for help docs? or XML? ... I opened a help file in gnone the other day for the game "lights out" it took 30 seconds to open and used 40mb of ram to display05:07
tamranall that was on the screen was a paragraph of text05:07
tamranyou could easily use html for all documentation types05:07
tamranI better not get on this rant ...05:08
reboot09does anyone know how i could set up a shell on my box for a friend with a login screen etc then set permissions any tutorials i havent found any05:09
JBrownDoes KPackage look at a repository for installing games etc, or just what is installed on the pc? I know it looks for the updates05:10
tamranreboot09: in kde, open System Settings, then click "Advanced" tab and click User management05:13
tamranJBrown: you can search everything in the textbox05:13
JBrownThanks05:13
tamranJBrown: you can also use synaptic if you're more comfortable05:13
tamransynaptic works fine in KDE05:14
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rainy-dayWhat's the shortcut for K startup menu?05:14
rainy-daynm!05:14
tamranrainy-day: in System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse05:15
rainy-daytamran: by right click on it too :)05:15
tamranrainy-day: ahhh, thanks man :)05:16
tamranthat's a better way05:16
rainy-dayI come here to seek help, instead I help :(05:17
tamranheh05:17
tamranit's karma buddy05:17
rainy-dayit's terrible is what it is! :)05:17
tavohi  people05:18
tavohow do i can  do the  net anonymously?05:19
tamrantavo: you mean like incognito mode in chrome/chromium?05:24
DaughainI have an issue with an install not shutting down or rebooting when using the KDE buttons.....Any ideas?05:26
olskolircok whos going to fix my kmenuedit - i can't save entries05:27
DaughainAll the virtualbox resources I find refer to setting up 32 bit versions.....I need XP 64bit....WHats the difference?06:03
olskolircDaughain, #virtualbox06:11
DaughainThanks.06:11
olskolircyw Daughain06:12
lordganehsplease help me .. i m recovering grub after installing windows 7 and i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/394961/06:17
olskolirci got that too lordganehs and i gave up and reinstalled06:18
olskolircI tried them all on the forums lordganehs06:19
lordganehsthen we have to send this as bug if no one can solve it olskolirc06:20
olskolirci even found an exe that is supposed to restore grub installed on m$ and AFTER i did that and rebooted, it said that the program wasn't guaranteed to work and it didn't it just sat there and i lost my windows bootload and had no grub06:20
olskolircright lordganehs and I don't know why ubuntu doesn't just add a button to click like Mandriva does from the cd and thats a wrap one click and reboot06:21
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mastiffsnapolibuon giorno a tuttti06:59
Curly_QIs there a command to reverse a last GUI delete?07:00
Curly_QOr remove?07:01
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boesmansgm all08:16
DaughainSup, boesmans08:16
BigFatConehi.. i've got a slight networking problem that i hope you guys can help me with.08:25
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robert__is kde 4.4 as fast as gnome?08:36
robert__just curious i might try it out08:36
BigFatConewhy can't i get the network up and running on my acer aspire 8935G using kubuntu 9.10?`08:37
robert__is kde 4.4 as fast as gnome?08:42
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AndyNewmanПривет народ))09:10
zubin71hi im using kubuntu rite now and id love to have a send to option when i right click on my file browser... any way i could have that?09:49
zubin71 a "send-to" option09:49
BigFatConewhy can't i get the network up and running on my acer aspire 8935G using kubuntu 9.10?`09:56
nikhil_BigFatCone: do ifconfig09:59
nikhil_in a console09:59
BigFatConenikhil_, do you mean "ipconfig"?10:00
nikhil_BigFatCone: in linux its ifconfig10:00
nikhil_for lan10:00
nikhil_and iwconfig10:00
nikhil_for wan10:00
nikhil_*wireless10:00
FloodBotK1nikhil_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:00
nikhil_not wan10:00
nikhil_sigh :P10:01
BigFatConeso, just open a terminal, type ifconfig and/or iwconfig and go to work?10:01
nikhil_no, we're trying to figuire out if your network card(s) are working10:03
nikhil_*figure10:03
nikhil_paste the output in a pastebin10:03
BigFatConeaight.. i'll do that.. but i'm dualbooting so this will take a while10:03
nikhil_are u in windows at the moment?10:04
BigFatConeyeah'10:04
nikhil_sigh!10:04
BigFatConesorry mate10:04
nikhil_it might indeed, i have to go relatively soon...10:04
nikhil_dude10:04
nikhil_get another computer to troubleshoot, and join #linux10:05
nikhil_^^ after registering your nick10:05
BigFatConei'm a bit low om computers right now.. :/10:05
DaughainThats why windows belongs in VB.10:20
HmpfCBR_Hi, does anybody know how to save an advanced slideshow from gwenview? Workarounds like recordmydesktop make the slideshow choppy and slow.10:22
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Peace-HmpfCBR_: use man2dvd10:29
Peace-HmpfCBR_: or use kdenlive10:30
HmpfCBR_Peace-: I know that kdenlive would work, but it has a completly different workflow. In gwenview you choose your pictures, set time, add a song, rando10:37
HmpfCBR_m effects10:37
HmpfCBR_and ready you are10:37
Peace-HmpfCBR_: use man2dvd then10:37
HmpfCBR_but I will have a look at man2dvd thanks10:37
Peace-shoudl works10:37
brian__!list10:43
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »10:43
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xxxxxhello10:56
xxxxxcan somebody say me  how to delete all files besides one directory?    "rm -r /dirname/*"     besides /dirname/xxx10:57
spirov92hi, I'm having issues with the radeon driver for ATI-it's awfully slow and takes up 30-40% CPU when I even move a window around, not to speak of compiz effects11:08
shadeslayer_spirov92: did you try the open source version?11:08
spirov92shadeslayer_: I think this IS the opensource version, since it came with the default install...where can I check?11:09
shadeslayer_spirov92: press alt+F2 and type : kdesudo jockey-kde11:09
HmpfCBR_xxxxx: if you do not need to use the commandline, you could just just open the folder in dolphin, select all and click the red minus sign of the folder you do not want to delete, then delete.11:10
spirov92shadeslayer_: it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"11:11
shadeslayer_spirov92: it should list any drivers you need to activate11:11
shadeslayer_spirov92: anything about ATi ?11:11
spirov92shadeslayer_: no...just empty fields11:11
shadeslayer_spirov92: hmm11:11
shadeslayer_spirov92: ok press Alt+F2 and type sys,and open the system monitors11:12
shadeslayer_spirov92: whats taking the maximum cpu?11:13
spirov92shadeslayer_: you mean the ksysguard thing?11:13
shadeslayer_spirov92: System Monitor11:13
spirov92right now ksysguard, forefox, konversation, each with about 3 percent11:13
spirov92firefox*11:14
xxxxx<xxxxx> can somebody say me  how to delete all files besides one directory?    "rm -r /dirname/*"     besides /dirname/xxx11:14
shadeslayer_spirov92: ok just keep a eye there...11:14
spirov92shadeslayer_: I moved a window around and Xorg went to 78% btw11:14
shadeslayer_spirov92: 0_o11:15
xxxxxONLY  through command!11:15
shadeslayer_spirov92: hmm... well i dont know11:15
spirov92xxxxx: you could make a bash script that loops through them and deletes them if the name is not xxx11:15
xxxxxI have make file   that copying all files and IT rmove all old and copy all new11:16
shadeslayer_spirov92: it might be temporary11:16
ubuntuhey11:16
xxxxxnono     it is directory with images11:16
xxxxxand I do not know names of files11:16
xxxxxit is uploaded files11:16
xxxxxOK    say me    how to do it fucking circle11:17
xxxxxor loop ))11:17
xxxxxfot x in 1..10 do  ????????????11:18
spirov92xxxxx: I haven't used bash scripting a lot, you could ask in #bash, and there are some good tutorials on the web11:18
xxxxxok11:18
xxxxxI want to eat11:18
spirov92and I think it was something like for x in * ; do: something; done;11:18
xxxxxand go back after some time11:19
james147xxxxx: grep -v "filename" will output all files but filename... you could use that11:19
xxxxxwaiting for me  guys11:19
xxxxxjames147 ok11:19
xxxxxdo somebody know time of racing F1 ?11:21
xxxxxMoscow time11:21
xxxxx14/03  14:5511:22
xxxxxok11:22
shadeslayer_ubottu: date11:22
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robertzaccourhow come in konquerer flash isn't completely compatible with it?11:28
robertzaccourlike some sites don't render the flash stuff like intended11:28
robertzaccouri.e. xat chats from xat.com11:28
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tea_hello11:30
tea_anybody?11:31
robertzaccourhello11:31
tea_robertzaccour, where are you?11:31
robertzaccourtennessee11:31
robert__will kopete work ok in gnome?11:45
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WaltzingAlongrobert_ sure12:23
m0arSup guys.  I'm unable to use "alt+1" to change to the server window in IRSSI when using xfce4-term. alt+1,2,3 etc works as they should. What might be wrong?12:26
nonameNNhey guys, is there any ubuntu image like debians minimal? so i can install just what i need?12:51
spirov92so, can someone help me with the ATI drivers? the default one-radeon, I think-is horribly slow12:52
spirov92nonameNN: can't you do a normal install and delete what you don't need?12:52
nonameNNspirov92: i could, but thats not the point12:54
shadeslayernonameNN: theres ubuntu minimal12:56
shadeslayer!minimal | nonameNN12:56
ubottunonameNN: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD12:56
nonameNNshadeslayer: thanks man, that was what i was looking...13:01
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spirov92hmm...in the envyng tool, it seems the proprietary ATI drivers do not support my card...in that case can someone help me with the open-source ones?13:06
nonameNNspirov92: i dont know what ati card u have, but probably theres a solution some where in the web... did u google it?13:07
spirov92can't find anything yet...looking at some forum post now13:08
spirov92lspci gives me: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)13:08
WaltzingAlong!ati | spirov9213:14
ubottuspirov92: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:14
spirov92http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966629&page=2 this describes my problem, and seems to happen on many types of hardware13:14
nonameNNspirov92: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567116  http://www.radarsync.com/drivers/d205643-radeon_rv250   http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx13:14
spirov92nonameNN: the first one...tried the same, X died, removed the drivers from the terminal, X was back13:17
WaltzingAlongspirov92: when it does not work out, check out the x log to find out the exact error. /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:18
spirov92The fglrx driver only support the 9500 card and ABOVE <<< I have a 9000...13:20
Jaimiei bet you could buy a 9500 for less than $1013:21
Jaimie;)13:21
st4aluckcan somebody tell me if I can make my webcam pleomax pwc-3800 to work  under ubuntu 10.0413:21
spirov92Jaimie: the question is will it fit in my laptop ;)13:21
Jaimiedepends on the laptop13:21
Jaimiemost have a propritary connection; in which case the answer is no or the part will be impossible to source13:22
spirov92hm...does the xorg log get reset on every login? could it still contain the errors from when I tried the fglrx driver?13:23
WaltzingAlongspirov92: sure but there should be others ...log.0 .1 and so on13:23
st4aluckcan somebody tell me if I can make my webcam pleomax pwc-3800 to work  under ubuntu 10.0413:25
shadeslayerst4aluck: #ubuntu+113:26
WaltzingAlongst4aluck: greetings. no need to repeat like that within 4 minutes just because no on answered. guess you are asking around in #ubuntu as well.13:26
shadeslayer!webcam | st4aluck13:27
ubottust4aluck: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras13:27
spirov92WaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.com/pYz64Rqu here's what was in xorg.0.log.old... seems fglrx driver doesn't support my card13:29
spirov92specifically the  (EE) No devices detected.13:30
XeperDoes anyone know where I can go in Kubuntu to set the system font?  I want to change the font that is used on window decorations and the task manager13:30
spirov92Xeper: kde system settings13:30
spirov92it should be in favorites in the k menu13:31
Xeperspirov92: where should i be looking in the system settings?13:31
spirov92Xeper: appearance->fonts13:31
Xeperspirov92: ahhhh, thank you very much13:32
WaltzingAlongspirov92: and which kubuntu are you running? which fglrx is installed?13:34
spirov92WaltzingAlong: 9.10, I removed the driver because it blew up X, I'll tell you what version it was in a second13:35
shadeslayer!meta | st4aluck13:35
ubottust4aluck: If you would like to help in #*ubuntu* but it just goes too fast to spot interesting questions, try joining #ubuntu-meta and watching for questions there (note that it is NOT a support channel, however, and questions should still be answered in #*ubuntu*)13:35
shadeslayermeh..13:35
WaltzingAlongspirov92: 8.66.10? apparently support was dropped in fglrx for your card/chip some versions ago. could install an older version that still supports that chip/card13:36
spirov92WaltzingAlong: it was 2:8.660-0ubuntu413:37
spirov92WaltzingAlong: where can I get one?13:37
WaltzingAlongspirov92: http://techkrunch.co.cc/index.php/2009/06/29/ubuntu-driver-for-dell-d600-ati-radeon-rv250-mobility-firegl-9000/13:37
shadeslayer!highlight | st4aluck13:38
lennyВсем привет!)13:38
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lennyHello everubody!)13:39
WaltzingAlong!hi | lenny13:42
ubottulenny: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!13:42
lennySomebody speak Russian?13:45
WaltzingAlong!ru | lenny13:45
ubottulenny: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke13:45
lennyА тут боты что ли сидят одни?13:45
lennyThanks)13:46
st4aluckshadeslayer:13:50
shadeslayerst4aluck: ah finally :)13:50
shadeslayerst4aluck: so whats the problem?13:50
st4aluckshadeslayer:  I got it13:50
st4aluckshadeslayer: pls tell me more about the webcam cause I tryed with 9.10 but after the new kernel came it stoped working again13:52
shadeslayerst4aluck: well for support in lucid you need to go to : #ubuntu+113:52
st4aluckshadeslayer: ok13:52
spirov92what was the name of the 9.10 release? (interpid/jaunty/karmic)13:56
shadeslayerspirov92: karmic13:56
spirov92thanks13:57
lennykarmic13:57
shadeslayerspirov92: it still is13:57
shadeslayer19:26 < spirov92> what was the name of the 9.10 release? (interpid/jaunty/karmic)13:57
WaltzingAlong!karmic | spirov9213:59
ubottuspirov92: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/91013:59
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lennyKubuntu Rulezzzz!)13:59
spirov92lenny: yeah13:59
fabio333i got lucid14:00
spirov92it would be perfect if I get the ati drivers to work...14:00
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lennyspirov92 Are you using Kubuntu too?14:00
spirov92lenny: well you are speaking in #kubuntu....lol14:01
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lenny)))14:01
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fabio333spirov92: open or closed?14:02
WaltzingAlong!away | vyrgozunqk14:03
ubottuvyrgozunqk: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»14:03
spirov92fabio333: trying to get the closed-source one to work, since the radeon driver is eating cpu a lot14:03
fabio333spirov92: what card?14:04
spirov92fabio333: radeon mobility firegl 9000 something14:04
WaltzingAlongfabio333: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV25014:05
fabio333rv250 should work fine with radeon14:07
fabio333and it's too old for fglrx14:07
WaltzingAlongfabio333: what did you use to check that? should there not be an older version of fglrx that supports it?14:08
fabio333WaltzingAlong: use man radeon14:08
fabio333fglrx is only for the latest cards (hd series)14:09
fabio333radeon works perfectly with my rs200 but R2xx is very old.14:09
fabio333and it will not work with lucid plymouth14:10
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dmdevoteeanybody knows if there is anyway to execute a script witout terminal?14:22
dmdevotee*without14:22
shadeslayerdmdevotee: just click on it?14:23
dmdevoteethat doesn't work14:23
shadeslayerdmdevotee: does the executable have a gui?14:25
shadeslayer(gui function call)14:25
user____halo world14:27
dmdevoteehow do i know if there is a gui?14:27
dmdevoteeshadeslayer:14:28
dmdevoteea simple script2.sh file with this contect14:29
bigbrovar.14:29
dmdevotee#! /bin/bash14:29
dmdevoteeecho "hello world"14:29
dmdevoteeexecuting it with double click does nothing14:29
user____chmod +x script2.sh14:30
user____./script2.sh14:30
user____make the file executeable14:30
user____the ./ run it14:30
dmdevotee-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    31 2010-03-14 15:28 script2.sh14:31
user____try run this "./script2.sh"14:31
dmdevoteei want to execute without typing everytime the filename14:31
shadeslayerdmdevotee: since the script does not have anything to display with the gui,it runs in the background14:31
shadeslayerdmdevotee: its not a GUI script!14:31
user____it run on konsole / terminal14:32
user____lolz14:32
shadeslayerdmdevotee: for a gui script you need qt/gtk libraries14:33
dmdevoteei do not understand "anything to display with the gui"...14:34
dmdevoteeit's supposed to display "hello world"14:35
dmdevoteei made a script that moves files, and when i double click on it, it does nothing14:37
user____dmdevotee the script2.sh only show result on console, not on GUI14:38
dmdevoteeany way to execute the script without typing it the name everytime in terminnal?14:38
user____if u need to display on GUI u need more coding, this need qt/gtk library help14:38
dmdevoteethanks user, but now i did a script that moves files14:38
dmdevoteei don't need now to display nothing, i did a script that uses the command mv14:39
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user____when u double click it, make sure u open with right program14:40
Jerky_do u guys see any major problems with 10.04??? I am using it on my notebook and wondering if i should put it on my main desktop14:40
dmdevoteeuser____: when i double click, it does NOTHING14:40
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user____dmdevtee: ok like this right click the script2.sh14:43
user____click propreties14:43
user____goto permission tab14:43
user____check the box to execute the file14:43
WaltzingAlong!lucid | Jerky_14:44
ubottuJerky_: Lucid lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule14:44
user____then click "open with" tab14:44
dmdevoteeuser___: it had "777" permission14:45
user____open with "bash"14:45
user____now u edit script2.sh with this command "touch aaabbcc"14:46
user____this to create a empty file name aaabbcc14:46
macoJerky_: current issues do not dictate future issues14:46
user____now u can double it14:47
user____ls -l14:47
user____to check the file is it created14:47
user____it should be on your desktop /home/username/Desktop14:47
user____does this server have #ufo room?14:53
dmdevoteein what category is bash?14:53
user____on the bottm just enter "bash"14:53
user____"use custom command"14:54
dmdevoteethanks! it worked14:54
user____good to heard that14:54
dmdevoteei tried opening with konsole, but it did't work, only a black screen appeared14:54
user____this is bash script14:55
dmdevoteei thinked they were the same14:55
spirov92bliargh. I installed the drivers as shown on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide and it blew up X11(again)14:55
spirov92(EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. <<< has anyone seen this?14:57
spirov92http://pastebin.com/E3uEV37Q here's the Xorg.0.log14:58
user____halo use "envy" is the easy way to install nvidia or ati card14:59
dmdevoteeanybody knows how to sort the graphical elements from task manager?14:59
dmdevoteei mean, put the clock on the roght, the taks at left, the shortcuts at left, etc14:59
dmdevotee*right15:00
spirov92when I installed the drivers, kde started up, but kwin and compiz died complaining about GLX missing15:00
user____ glxinfo |grep direct15:01
user____what is the result?15:01
spirov92user____: direct rendering: Yes15:01
lucia_dmdevottee:  click on the cashew and then move the stuff around using your mouse with the cross hair15:02
dmdevoteelucia_: thanks!15:03
user____ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep glx15:03
user____do you get this ?15:03
user____    Load           "glx"15:03
lucia_dmdevotte: you are welcome. jsut to be sure I mean the cashew on the task bar15:04
user____spirov92:make sure u load glx15:05
user____Section "Module"15:05
user____#    Load           "glx"15:05
user____    Load           "glx"15:05
user____EndSection15:05
FloodBotK1user____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:05
spirov92user____: look at line 97 of the log I pastebined15:07
spirov92it seems it's being loaded15:07
Matissehi15:08
Matisseneed some help with kde 4.4 flaws15:08
Matisseis there any guide out in the net?15:08
spirov92Matisse: what issues?15:08
dmdevoteei didn't know what the "cashew" is but when you said "the crosshair" i know what you were talking about15:09
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dmdevotee*knew15:10
user____spirvo92:  open konsole  run this "compiz -replace"15:10
Matissemissing top of windows (where maximize and close button is) and double task line15:10
spirov92user____:  I removed the drivers so I could get a working window manager15:10
user____Matisse u running compiz???15:10
Matisseuser__, i think so15:12
spirov92user____: running compiz now shows "No whitelisted driver found" and falls back to kwin15:13
user____spirov92 :i dont get you, compiz is a software  to manipulize gnome/kde display15:13
spirov92user____: yeah, a window manager...but as I said, both compiz and kwin were broken when the drivers were installed15:14
spirov92so I couldn't focus a window to type, so I used tty1 to log in and remove the drivers15:14
Matisseuser__, yes, running compiz, is it a problem?15:15
spirov92Matisse: make sure the window decoration plugin is enabled in ccsm15:15
user____Matisee : open ccsm15:15
user____ya that right15:15
user____spirov92: what video card u are using?15:16
user____it easy to start over again from zero15:16
spirov92user____: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)15:16
Matisseccsm isnt even installed. does it mean its a different error?15:16
spirov92Matisse: how do you configure compiz then? you should install it15:17
Matissei dont configure it :)15:17
spirov92without it you can't know if the decoration plugin is on15:17
plop_hi !15:17
Matisseho15:17
plop_he15:18
user____RV250. i think it slow when running compiz15:18
spirov92user____: with the radeon driver it was slow. with fglrx it didn't work :)15:18
user____now u load fglrx driver?15:19
Matissespirov92, seems like its enabled15:20
spirov92user____: I removed it, and now it seems I have no driver15:20
spirov92Matisse: what is the command setting?15:20
Matisse?15:20
MatisseIts just checkmark15:21
Matisse*a checkmark15:21
spirov92Matisse: when you click on a plugin, you get settings for it. there should be a decorator command in the decoration plugin's settings.15:21
Matisse/usr/bin/compiz-decorator15:21
Matissespirov92, "seems" no driver - have you checked with apt-cache policy <drivername> ?15:23
amichairis there an advantage to have ktorrent allocate disk space in advance? it causes the whole desktop to freeze for a couple of minutes when it's allocating15:27
Matisseamichair, the space cant be taken15:28
Matissetamran, yesterday you explained how I can install kde 4.4, but you said it still has some "bumps". Can you help with them? Seems like the other 2 guys freezed :)15:29
amichairMatisse: so it's only useful when I'm running out of disk space? does fragmentation matter?15:29
Matisseno, fragmentation is not important on linux15:31
Matissebut its strange that it freezes15:32
WaltzingAlongamichair: fragmentation occurs with other file systems as well but is not the problem that it is made out to be under desktop single user ms windows - perhaps because of much better disk caching/buffering15:32
user____Mastisee: u using KDE right?15:32
Matisseuser__, yes15:33
WaltzingAlongamichair: which reservation method are you using? basic or filesystem specific?15:33
amichairMatisse: yes, I can't figure out how moving the mouse cursor should be blocked by any amount of disk io. seems like a design flaw somewhere.15:33
amichairWaltzingAlong: filesystem specific15:34
user____make sure u install this "compiz-kde "15:34
WaltzingAlongamichair: i have 'reserve disk space' checked but not 'fully reserve' - first option probably creates a sparse file while the second probably fills the entire thing with 0s15:34
amichairWaltzingAlong: I'll try it for a while...15:35
Matisseamichair, have you had checked both?15:35
amichairchecked both checkboxes? or checked both reservation methods?15:36
WaltzingAlongMatisse: fully reserve must have been checked, otherwise one cannot set which method and amichair reported he was using the filesystem specific method15:37
soeehow can i change trash icon ?15:37
amichairI had both checkboxes and filesystem specific selected. I just unchecked the second checkbox, will try working like this for a week or two and see what happens.15:40
WaltzingAlongamichair: ok. i think that will be fine. feel free to report back15:40
user____make sure u install this "compiz-kde and compizconfig-settings-manager"15:41
user____n enable window decoration15:41
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lantiziaanyone know a good qt and/or kde based Jabber/XMPP client?  (I normally use Gajim but thats GTK+ based)15:50
Matisselantizia, kopete?15:51
WaltzingAlong!kopete | lantizia15:51
ubottulantizia: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin15:51
Matisseuser__, it is enabled15:51
lantiziaother than kopete! I can't stand it!15:51
Matissepidgin?15:52
lantiziapidgin is GTK15:52
Matissethen take kopete, its great :)15:52
Matisseyou can configure a lot15:52
lantiziakopete has some silly thing is has to start (and sometimes crash) when you load it15:53
lantiziaplus it begins with a K :)15:53
WaltzingAlong!sim-qt | lantizia15:53
WaltzingAlong!info sim-qt | lantizia15:53
ubottulantizia: sim-qt (source: sim): simple instant messenger (Qt). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5~svn20080806-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2037 kB, installed size 6564 kB15:53
user____try pidgin :D15:56
Matisselantizia, whats the last time you tried it?15:56
lantizialast night15:57
Matisseok15:57
doleybhello, i am wondering how often is plasma-desktop supposed to crash?15:57
lantiziaplus I don't need an all in one messenger... I'd rather have something that concentrates just on XMPP/Jabber like Gajim does (but Gajim is GTK+)15:57
user____Matisse: i think some plugin might conflit with window decoration , so try disable some recent plugin first15:57
Matisseonce a hour doleyb15:57
Matissei've got an idea15:58
doleybMatisse: are you serious?  because I do have crashes of about each hour during use.  Not on a real 60 minute schedule though.15:58
doleybAnd sometimes much faster.15:58
Matisseno, it was a joke :D15:58
doleybyeah :(15:58
doleybDo you know if upcoming kde versions will crash less?15:59
Matissethere will be somebody here whos helping you if you describe more prezise15:59
Matisseuser__, ive manually set to 16bit... have to restart to test 24bit again15:59
doleybWell I'm not asking for someone to help me stop it from crashing.  I am looking for information if this is like a known problem.16:00
user____doleyb: i try kde 4.x but my video card said better run gnome16:01
user____:)16:01
user____i am running compiz16:02
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apparlehi guys16:06
WaltzingAlong!hi | apparle16:11
ubottuapparle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:11
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Matissere16:23
Matisseuser__, so, 24bit didnt change a thing16:24
Matissewhich plugin should I disable?16:24
hazaa!grub16:24
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.16:24
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WaltzingAlong!info psi | lantizia16:29
ubottulantizia: psi (source: psi): Jabber client using Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2890 kB, installed size 6912 kB16:30
boesmansHi16:33
boesmansif I have the path of folder A and of folder B, can i move a file from folder A to folder B via console?16:33
boesmansif yes, how do i do that?16:33
hazaadang it.. Folks.. im trying to reinsatll my grub so that it picks up windows. But after trying to follow the !grub i cannot find my HD(s). Maybe i need more info when trying to install grub onto my raid?16:35
Xeperi have a very basic question that someone may laugh at me for asking... is there an interface that i can go to to download plasma themes?16:35
doleybplasma-desktop just crashed for the second time since I mentioned it, 41 minutes ago.  So that's like crashes every 20 minutes of use :)16:39
Dinoxdoleyb:have u update all package?16:40
Dinoxapt-get upgrade16:40
hazaaugh... all i *think* i need to do is mount my array on the live CD. That way i can reinstall my grub??16:40
doleybDinox yes im updated that way.16:40
kubuntu1222hello16:41
kubuntu1222i need help width kubuntu16:41
doleybkubuntu1222: well ask questions for what help you need.16:42
kubuntu1222i installed kubuntu and now in welcome screen asking me enter password, but i not set one in installation16:42
Draconis_Hi everyone, how are you guys doin' today?16:42
kubuntu1222now i cant start system16:42
hazaaDinox: Cheers :)16:43
spirov92kubuntu1222: have you tried empty password?16:43
kubuntu1222yes not loading16:43
Xeperis there a simple user interface for downloading and installing plasma themes?16:43
kubuntu1222its showing as unused user . But what password and login for it16:44
boesmanscan i move a file from folder A to folder B via the terminal if i know both paths? if so, how ?16:44
doleybboesmans: mv /home/me/foldera/file1 /home/me/folderb16:44
Draconis_I have a few questions- i would like to know how to update my drivers to my wireless card, and set my proprietary drivers through terminal...but I don't know the command lines well enough...16:45
kubuntu1222so how to solve this problem ?16:45
boesmansthanks doleyb16:45
kubuntu1222anyone16:46
robin0800kubuntu1222: you should have set a default user name and password during the install16:47
kubuntu1222yes i know but i not set it so how i should now login16:48
Draconis_i was told something about like linux backtrack or backdoor or something like that to update my drivers and stuffs16:48
GiGaMaN83scuse me there are any italian? scusate c'è qualche italiano?16:49
robin0800kubuntu1222: not sure you can! perhaps have to re-install16:49
Draconis_Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.16:50
Draconis_Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.     <-  What does this error mean?16:50
kubuntu1222but the cd is not boting anymore , after boot it showing languages and freezing and my win7 cd not booting at all .16:53
kubuntu1222this is shity os i ques16:53
Dinoxdraconis: try this sudo dpkg --configure -a16:54
Dinoxkubuntu1222: try boot into http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page16:55
Dinoxmount /dev/sda1 /mnt/linux16:55
Dinoxchroot /mnt/linux /bin/bash16:56
Draconis_dpkg: status database area is locked by another process16:56
Draconis_All i have open is Quassel IRC and Terminal...16:56
Dinoxcreate user or reset password from there16:56
Dinoxps -e |grep package16:57
Draconis_Dinox can I talk to you in PMs for just a moment so I am not posting the issues here?16:58
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omertahello17:12
omertai'm new to kubuntu i need a hand17:12
omertawhere can i change the network settings to get a static ip17:13
omertaalso change the dns servers17:13
omertai prefer GUI mode17:13
Dinoxpress alt+f217:15
Dinoxnm-connection-editor17:15
hazaahmm. so it looks like i was able to mount my raid using...\17:16
hazaasudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_bhhcbgejdd_system1 /media/myraid/17:16
hazaaI can now see my Kubuntu OS17:16
hazaaSound about right?17:16
omertacommands not found it says Dinox17:16
omertai use kubuntu karmic17:17
Dinoxya hazaa17:18
Dinoxchroot /media/myraid17:18
hazaaI see17:19
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hazaasudo chroot /media/myraid17:19
hazaaDinox: So i guess i can try to reinstall my grub2 ?17:19
omertasystem-settings->network-settings->network connections under wired tab there's nothing to edit17:20
omertabut i'm connected to internet as you can see17:21
Dinoxhazza: sry u no need to chroot into it17:22
Dinoxhazaa: just execute "grub"17:23
hazaaDinox: Hehe. No worries17:23
hazaaDinox: In the media/myraid dir?17:23
Dinoxroot (hd,X)17:23
Dinoxsetup (hdX)17:24
hazaaDinox: Is that directed at me?17:25
Dinoxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:25
Dinoxi familar with grub, not grub2. pls refer the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:25
* hazaa bangs his head off a wall17:26
hazaaDinox: Cheers17:26
liahhi, i cant change a permission, someone can help me please17:27
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Dinoxomerta: use command will be great : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/17:29
Dinoxhi liah: ls -l17:29
Dinoxcopy paste result here17:29
omertaok DInox, i'll try, hopefully i wont do something wrong :)17:30
drax_avichanged my nick, lol, its was a default from here17:31
drax_avidont have a result17:31
drax_avii used chown and chmod17:31
drax_avito alter the groups, the permission17:31
drax_aviits days that have changed17:31
drax_avibut when i look17:31
drax_avidont change at all17:31
drax_aviits satys user root group root17:32
drax_aviits a nfts partition that i use for linux and windows17:32
Dinoxhuh ntfs?17:32
Dinoxu cant change ntfs permisson  at linux17:33
apparle!browser17:33
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)17:33
drax_avihum... its stays as root?17:33
apparlesuggest a lightweight browser for kde17:34
drax_avii cant change in anyway?17:34
Dinoxu cant change a permission for ntfs disk17:34
drax_aviok ty17:34
Dinoxu format to unix disk format :) xfs,jfs.ext2,ext317:34
drax_avibut its used by linux and windows, so i cant do it17:35
drax_avilinux read a nfts partiotion17:35
drax_avibut windows dont read a ext417:35
Dinoxguy good nite17:37
Dinoxneed sleep17:37
drax_avibye17:39
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Draconis_Can anyone tell me how to update my drivers to my wireless modem through konsole?17:46
Draconis__Is there a way to 'disk cleanup' and 'defrag' in kubuntu?  To like...clean up cache and temp files and whatnot?17:57
tamranhello all, can anyone explain how to change file associations in KDE?  The "default applications" part in settings only has 5 apps there17:57
tamranactually, what I'm trying to do is make magnet links work17:58
st4aluck#ubuntu-beginers18:08
ToraToraTora!fi18:10
ubottuTämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)18:10
drax_avihi18:14
drax_avii am trying to change the permission of a ntfs partition, i tryied to use ntfs-3g18:14
drax_avibut nothing i do change the permission18:15
drax_aviits always back to the user: root group: root 77718:15
drax_avihi18:28
drax_avii am trying to change the permission of a ntfs partition, i tryied to use ntfs-3g18:28
drax_avibut nothing i do change the permission18:28
drax_aviits always back to the user: root group: root 77718:28
FloodBotK1drax_avi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:28
drax_avihi18:31
drax_avii am trying ti change the permission of a nfts partition18:32
drax_avii tryied everything, even use ntfs-3g18:32
drax_avibut the permissions stays a user and group root18:32
drax_avisomeone can help me please?18:33
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Draconis_Can anyone inform me on how I can check my wireless drivers and update them?18:55
Peace-Draconis_: mm18:56
Peace-!wifi18:56
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:56
Draconis_Thanks Peace18:56
Peace-Draconis_: which kind of wifi have you ?18:56
Draconis_Not sure on how to check it.19:00
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Draconis_Peace- :   I did linux-backports-modules-karmic doesn't that update all that stuff?19:05
Draconis_Of course i did sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic  and it completed successfully....should I reboot?19:06
boesmanscya allllllllllllll19:29
droxHello i have a problem, my X-fi extreme audio don't play. How do I do to play it?19:31
droxI use kubuntu19:31
drox9.1019:31
lantiziaIs there a list of all apps Kubuntu 9.10 comes with?19:33
Draconis_Can anyone tell me how I can install flash player so I can watch youtube?19:46
Draconis_And VLC Player for linux O.o19:46
Typos_Kinghehe19:47
Typos_Kingyou can find vlc in the repositories, as well as flash player :)19:47
Typos_KingDraconis_:      sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree vlc;19:48
Draconis_How do i view the repositories so I know what to type?19:49
Draconis_And PS-  How do i check for bug fix downloads...I had 173 of them eearlier, but I dont see that icon or how to find it19:49
Typos_Kingwell19:50
Typos_KingI do it from the console19:50
Typos_Kingbut you may be able to check using 'kpackagemanager'19:50
Draconis_How?  ah19:50
jussi01Draconis_: system -> Kpackagekit -> software updates19:57
lantiziaIs there a list of all apps Kubuntu 9.10 comes with?20:03
Typos_Kinglantizia:   <jussi01> Draconis_: system -> Kpackagekit   <---20:05
lantiziaTypos_King: that helps how?20:05
lantiziaor are you assuming I'm using kubuntu?20:05
Draconis_Well20:06
Draconis_You ARE IN #kubuntu20:06
lantiziaYeah... Im in #kubuntu asking about Kubuntu20:06
lantiziaI want to know what apps come with it before I waste some bandwidth in dowloading it20:06
Draconis_O.o then its not an assumption :P20:07
Draconis_Well20:07
Draconis_What are you looking for in general?20:07
lantiziaA list20:07
xjjklantizia: distrowatch.com has a comparison page of versions of packages in distributions20:09
xjjkcould probably find a list of all the packages included on the disc somewhere too20:09
lantiziacritical comparative packages yes - but not a list of applications20:09
lantiziatheres a difference20:09
lantiziascreenshots of the default Kmenu's would help20:10
jussi01lantizia: is this any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/395274/20:12
jussi01its a list of the dpendencies for kubuntu-desktop20:12
jussi01also, the release notes tell what is new and a list of known bugs: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.10-release20:13
lantizianot really! I'm not after a list of packages, I'm after a list of visible/usable GUI applications that are preinstalled20:13
lantiziatheres nothing about Kubuntu other than... come use it!  why are you waiting!.. I don't see any list of features20:13
HmpfCBR_lantizia: a tour with screenshots can be found here: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Kubuntu%209.1020:15
lantiziaHmpfCBR_: that doesn't list the apps20:16
edi_99Hi guys. Is there a way to restore the default value of wpa_supplicant.conf file?20:46
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ccccccsudo rm < find . -name  "*.*"20:46
microsofthello20:46
cccccc???  why  did not work it20:47
ccccccmicroman20:47
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micromansudo rm < find . -name  "*.*"20:47
micromanquys!!!!!!1  I want find files  and delete them!20:47
micromansudo rm < find . -name  "*.*"               ??????????????20:48
micromanfuck    I did it with my hands20:52
micromanthenks guys20:52
micromanfrom russia with love20:52
charles_hello20:59
charles_new to this,need help PLEASE20:59
Typos_Kingcharles_:   with?21:01
charles_iam tring to download flashplayer so i can review my e-mail21:01
charles_but it is asking  a {open with21:02
charles_sorry21:02
Typos_Kingyou need flash player to 'review' email?  I don't :)21:03
Typos_Kinga open?  ?21:03
charles_a place to download the file but i have no idea where to place this file to get my HTML to work correct21:04
Typos_Kingnot sure I follow that charles_  :|21:05
charles_ok21:05
Typos_Kingwhat are you doing anyway?21:06
charles_when i try to open my yahoo21:06
Typos_Kingok21:07
Typos_Kingsooo, what happens?21:07
charles_it states that i need the get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/21:07
Typos_Kingok21:08
charles_well i download the program,21:08
charles_but21:08
Typos_Kingwhat about when you go to youtube.com?   does it ask you too?21:08
charles_yes at utube to21:08
charles_but21:08
Typos_Kingbut?21:08
charles_i try to open the file21:08
charles_it ask me the command _OPEN WITH_21:09
charles_then i try to pick a program  it will not work21:10
Typos_Kingcharles_   go to System > kpackageit; look for 'flashplugin-non-free'21:10
Typos_Kingand install it :)21:10
charles_ok thanks21:11
Typos_King'flashplugin-nonfree'21:11
Typos_Kingrather21:11
charles_sorry , like stated very new to this, but , is this a web site or is it the system on my computer?21:14
Typos_Kingis in your system21:14
Typos_Kingclick on the KDE button, then System, then kpackageit21:14
charles_ok21:14
charles_sorry there wher no  kpackageit in the system trayto pic from21:20
Typos_King... ok21:21
Typos_Kingcharles_:  then open a 'terminal' window, by click on Konsole and type -> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree;21:21
charles_ok hold please21:22
charles_ok this waht it stated21:24
charles_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)21:24
charles_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?21:24
charles_charles@att:~$21:24
FloodBotK1charles_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:24
charles_sorry21:24
charles_ok21:25
Typos_Kingwell21:25
Typos_Kingthat means you have kpackageit open21:25
charles_let me close some things21:26
charles_ok let me try again21:27
Typos_Kingk21:27
charles_ok, it stated that it could not fin flashplugin-nonfree21:28
Typos_Kingok21:30
Typos_Kingnow try -> apt-cache seach flashplugin21:30
Typos_Kingany names listed?21:30
charles_okm hold on please21:31
charles_states invaild operating seach21:32
Typos_Kinglol21:32
charles_what21:33
Typos_Kingnow try -> apt-cache search flashplugin21:33
Typos_Kinga typo, well, I ain't the King for nutin`21:33
charles_lol21:34
charles_my name just came back up21:35
Typos_Kingsoooo21:35
Typos_Kinganything?21:35
charles_just charles@att:~$21:36
Typos_King... nothing huh21:36
charles_nope21:36
Typos_Kingone sec21:36
charles_ok21:36
arriesphi21:40
charles_hello21:41
Typos_Kingcharles_:    http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/10/flash_player_10_linux_dev.tar.gz21:41
charles_ok hold on please21:41
Typos_Kingallo arriesp21:42
arriesphow are you¿21:42
droxspeak italiana somebody21:43
Typos_King!it | drox21:43
ubottudrox: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:43
charles_it asks--Save as  or Open with ark21:44
droxI have a problem with audio, my X-fi estreme audio don't play why?21:44
Typos_Kingcharles_:    save21:45
charles_ok where to ?21:45
Typos_Kingheeh21:46
Typos_Kinganywhre... it doesn't matter.... ~/Downloads I gather21:46
charles_ok21:46
charles_finsh downloading21:47
Typos_Kingopen it with Ark21:49
charles_ok21:49
Typos_Kinggo down to the install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz  file and Extract that file21:51
charles_open in ark and clicked on it  and it stated21:51
charles_Veiw Externally or do not veiw21:51
charles_ok21:52
Typos_King...21:52
Typos_Kingdo you see several folders open in Ark when it's loaded?21:52
charles_no just 121:53
Typos_Kingthere's a 'plugin' and a .... ack21:53
Typos_Kingok... expand that :|21:53
Typos_Kingand go down to plugin > debugger21:53
charles_no can do there is no + button21:54
Typos_Kingok... then unzip the whole thing21:54
charles_yeah, about the unzip, there is none21:56
charles_i trird to downloade that to and still have it21:57
charles_but it did not unpack21:57
[Relic]Is there anyway in 9.10 to get the task bar to stop sorting alphabetically when you have sort by desktop selected?21:59
lantiziaDoes Kubuntu come with mono-common ? (i.e. have any apps depending on the mono framework)22:00
Typos_King[Relic]:     can't say..   I haven't used kde WM as much hehee22:00
charles_lol22:00
[Relic]just using it with whatever came installed :)22:01
Typos_Kinglantizia:    apt-cache search mono-common;   it came up for me22:01
lantiziaTypos_King: how about dpkg -l | grep -i mono-common22:01
Typos_Kinglantizia    sure, I'd think it'd show up there22:02
Draconis_What is Native IE6 rofl...22:02
lantiziaI didn't ask if it was in the repositories, I asked if it was installed with Kubuntu (i.e. on install)22:02
lantiziaTypos_King: you'd think?  but does it actually22:02
Typos_Kinglantizia    actually, it didn't22:02
lantiziaGood :)22:02
Typos_Kingit did show on the apt-cache though22:02
lantiziaWell it will22:02
charles_Tpose_King is there any thing else to try22:02
Typos_Kinglantizia    and in apt-cache pkgnames22:03
Typos_Kingsooooo, I'd think is installed, at least on mine :P22:03
charles_ok got the de bug22:04
Typos_Kingcharles_:      it'd be in the repositories... that'd be the easier way to install it .... though...22:04
Typos_Kingthe bug?22:04
charles_ok whats next22:04
Typos_Kingcharles_:    you mean, it unzipped?22:04
charles_the debbuer opt22:04
Typos_King?22:04
charles_sorry22:04
Typos_Kingthe folder you mean?22:04
charles_the Debbuger opt22:04
charles_yes22:05
charles_lo22:05
charles_lol22:05
Typos_Kingnot sure what that is :|22:05
* arriesp bye22:05
charles_in the ark22:05
Typos_Kingcharles_:     just unzip the whole file you just downloaded22:06
Typos_Kingthen, you can use the installer it comes with22:06
charles_ok22:06
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haileyhi22:18
haileyhelp22:18
ulysseshailey: what is your problem?22:18
haileyi need to kno how to reset the root password i forgot it22:18
haileyulysses?22:19
Typos_Kingwhat about your account password?22:20
Typos_Kingdo you remember that one?22:20
haileyulysses?22:22
haileyyes22:22
haileybut not the root password22:22
Typos_Kingyes?22:22
Typos_Kingthen... nevermind the root passwd :)22:22
haileyyup22:22
Typos_Kingheheh, yours is the only one  you need22:22
haileyno i need the root to download stuff22:22
Typos_Kingthere's no 'root' user account per se in ubuntu22:22
ulysseshailey: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword22:22
Typos_Kingso.... not sure you have lost anything, since there wasn't one to begin with22:23
haileyill try ulysses22:23
haileyulysses im going to try it thanks22:27
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haileyit didnt work what do you press on the recovery menu22:34
felipe__anyone knows to how configure the sound, to record with the audacity program?22:43
felipe__anyone knows how to configure the sound, to record with the audacity program?22:46
felipe__i have some troubles with record noise.22:46
haileyhey it didnt work22:49
haileyulysses22:49
Typos_King..22:50
Typos_Kingfelipe__:    what are you trying to do?22:50
felipe__i'm trying to record voice, with a headset with microphone22:50
ulysseshailey: It seems that you have GRUB 2, so have to find out how to get a root shell in recovery mode. I don't know it, because I have the old GRUB22:51
felipe__but I'm getting so much noise22:51
Typos_King...22:51
Typos_Kingsoooo,it's recording then22:51
felipe__Typos_King:  and when I plug the guittar, I get noise as well.22:51
Typos_King.. I usually use it to record from the soundcard..... I don't get any extra noises though22:52
Typos_Kingfelipe__:    can't say... try maybe another app -> http://techcityinc.com/2009/04/14/10-best-audio-editors-for-linux/22:53
Typos_KingI've heard something like that happening on certain playbacks for a player, which another didn't do, so22:54
felipe__Typos_King: ok then. but in this link, the program that I'm using, Audacity, comes on the top22:55
Typos_Kingyes, I understand that22:55
felipe__Typos_King: I think the trouble is in configuring the kmix. (the sound mixer of kubuntu)22:55
Typos_KingI do have it and use it, but not for much recording, mostly to edit mp3s and a few recording from the soundcard22:55
felipe__Typos_King: but thanks, anyway22:56
Typos_Kingand for me, it works well enough22:56
Typos_Kingit might be in kmix... can't tell22:56
felipe__Typos_King: for that works pretty well. but for recording not so good22:56
Typos_Kingright... maybe another may fare better :)22:56
rimadguys, which packages provides csr1212.h ?23:02
felipe__Typos_King: thanks! I found a alternative for Fruity loops for linux. You help me a lot. I'm loving use linux23:05
felipe__Typos_King: the community helps a lot.23:06
Typos_Kingheheh23:06
JontheEchidna!find csr1212.h23:07
JontheEchidnaubottu: ping23:08
ubottuPackage/file csr1212.h does not exist in karmic23:08
ubottuOne ping only, Vassily.23:08
JontheEchidna!find csr1212.h lucid23:09
JontheEchidnarimad: There might not be one :(23:09
Typos_King!lucid | JontheEchidna23:09
ubottuPackage/file csr1212.h does not exist in lucid23:10
ubottuJontheEchidna: Lucid lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule23:10
srdjanhmmm why is xorg taking > 80% ?23:11
JontheEchidnaTypos_King: I was seeing if a file was in lucid, not asking for support :/23:11
Typos_Kingheheh23:11
JontheEchidnano worries :)23:11
srdjan 1293 root      20   0  540m 200m  12m R   96  6.6 119:31.98 Xorg23:11
rimaddamn..23:13
Typos_KingJontheEchidna   http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/ieee1394/csr1212.h23:13
JontheEchidnarimad: ^23:14
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rimadguys, i need kernel newer than 2.6.31-2023:15
rimadbecause some modules wont compile otherwise :(23:15
rimadis it possible?23:15
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ikoniarimad: yes23:40
Spaceghosthi23:41
Spaceghostkubuntu 9.10 get a partitonmanager?23:41
Spaceghostin the GUI?23:41
Spaceghost:S23:41
iconmefisto!info partitionmanager23:42
rimadikonia, how? any repos?23:43
Spaceghost:S23:43
ubottupartitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): partition manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 726 kB, installed size 2848 kB23:43
SpaceghostI need in the live-CD for install23:43
ikoniarimad: there are unofficial unsupported repos, however what are you trying to build that needs a 2.6.31 kernel ?23:44
Spaceghostisn't in repos?23:45
Spaceghostwell23:45
Spaceghostsorry23:45
Spaceghostin the Live-CD23:45
iconmefistoSpaceghost: you have an internet connection, right? just install it23:46
Spaceghostno in this PC, well23:48
SpaceghostI will try something simlar so23:48
iconmefistoSpaceghost: you could also download the package and dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com if the pc with the livecd has no internet23:50
Spaceghosthave any suggestion? what is better? partition manager or gparted?23:50
Spaceghostthe more... graphic, I haven't the necessary experience with the console for use "$parted"23:51
iconmefistoSpaceghost: they are almost the same. gparted has gtk interface. there is also qtparted23:52
iconmefistoSpaceghost: is gparted already on the livecd?23:53
SpaceghostI only have searched with the searcher of KDE menu, exist a better form of search if the livecd contains that program?23:53
iconmefistoSpaceghost: alt+F2 and type "gparted" to search for the program. but that is the same as searching in the menu search field23:56
Spaceghostok, so the live-cd doesn't come with any graphic partitioner23:57
iconmefistoSpaceghost: there is also a gparted livecd. download the iso here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php23:57
Spaceghostok, I will see for make my pendrive booteable23:58

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