[00:01] also the idea of running jack in realtime, since when running fruity loops in wine using the wineasio dll it wont work since that doesnt run in realtime [00:04] Hi all! I've installed Lucid at my Macbook 1,1. All works fine but when I plug in my headphones at audio output the sound doesn't work... Do you have a little idea or solution for this? Thanks === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [00:12] jackd is running in realtime even if u tell in qjack to dont [00:16] Hello, pretty major issue with dualscreen + compiz + lucid [00:16] Screenshot: http://koti.mbnet.fi/jaarli/kuvat/dualscreen.png [00:17] olmari: Most likely a graphics driver bug - which graphics card? [00:17] penguin42: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2] (rev 80), ibm t42p laptop [00:18] olmari: Are you running with the frglx or the open source drivers? [00:18] penguin42: with no compiz it works fine [00:18] penguin42: OSS [00:18] olmari: Report the bug [00:19] penguin42: would compiz need more GPU memory? if that would make this kind of issue, toigh it would be bug as allowing to do this =) [00:20] compiz really uses all the 3d features of the card, without it its mostly 2d which is a LOT easier [00:23] penguin42: will apport-gtk suffice? [00:25] network browse cpu 100 percent not working? any work around? [00:26] olmari: Not sure, the ubuntu-bug is broken and might stay that way until monday [00:28] penguin42: crap =) [00:28] penguin42, are you familiar with the network browse issue? [00:28] mikeconcepts_: Sorry, no [00:30] penguin42: is there anything to do but wait it out? (sorry to bother so much :p ) [00:31] olmari: You could try asking on http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-driver-ati [00:31] olmari: also, you could try running the xorg-edgers X libraries which are bleeding edge [00:31] penguin42: does it differ that afaik it is radeon, not ati, specifically? [00:32] olmari: I'm fairly sure that all even vaguely recent ATIs are actually radeon (or radeonhd) [00:33] penguin42: I meant the driver in running [00:33] olmari: Acutally, T2 (M10) is listed in the set of cards supported by the Radeon driver (I've got an Rv710) [00:33] yofel: sup man [00:34] olmari: I'd mail that [00:34] penguin42: ookay, I'll see what the outcome is :) [00:37] penguin42: One thing I do like with nVidia, easy to use control panel, as a side note [00:40] olmari: You can run the frglx closed source ati drivers and control panel (I think?) [00:41] I just installed lucid on a MAC G4. The keyboard doesn't work for me in X but I can use the on-screen KB to get to a console and the KB works fine there. [00:41] penguin42: I know I could, but those drivers sux, and ati control panel equally sucks in comparison to nvidia :D [00:41] I'm using the standard Apple KB and Mouse. The mouse works fine. Just the KB doesn't and only in X. [00:42] olmari: The open source drivers have impressed me for ati, they still have a few rough edges but are OK for me; they're a lot better than a year ago - haven't tried dual head on them though [00:42] mamefan2: Sounds like you've found a bug! [00:42] I compile pioneers on another machine, then made a package and installed it on this machine fine. If I try to install the same version in the repos, it wants to install 59 other packages (57 of which are not pioneers related). I've played with it and it works just fine [00:42] this is in Kubuntu lucid [00:42] penguin42: indeed, with ones came with lucid they're dirst time actually working for me as in generally usable daily [00:43] the 9.10 kubuntu didn't need all that stuff I don't believe [00:43] I don't think so. I think I've got a configuration problem. Googling around for this issue I find that other have encountered it on previous releases. I just don't know enough about how to troubleshoot the issue and would appreciate any guidance. [00:43] penguin42: I don't bash the open source drivers at all itself :) [00:43] is there something new with the repos and gnome apps using special stuff in lucid? [00:43] olmari: You could try xorg-edgers for the real bleeding edge version :-) [00:44] what's really frustrating me is that at one point I did get it (the keyboard) to work. But I don't know what I did and when I rebooted it was broken again. [00:44] Any idea why Ubuntu One doesn't want to start ? [00:45] I think it may be related to the AllowEmptyInput X server option. I seems that the mac keyboard is listed twice [00:45] Can anyone verify this behaviour for me? If I right click on the Apps menu and untick some of the games - they still remain in the menu. [00:45] So, any advice? [00:47] does any one know how to use hdmi to have output sound at tv? [00:47] I just "upgraded" to lucid lynx, and I want to downgrade back to Karmic Koala. Is there any way to do this? I cannot get to the standard console shell (ctrl+alt+f2), and X windows is crashing on boot. I am on the Karmic LiveCD now [00:48] Andre_Gondim: That depends I think on the particular card; if you open up sound preferences and go to hardware do you see the separate sound card there? [00:48] Xepera: Downgrading is generally not doable [00:48] Xepera try pressing OrtSc+alt+k or J [00:49] Okidesu: what is OrtSc? [00:49] Xepera, if you get stuck at boot o-o [00:49] Xepera, oops PrtSc [00:49] penguin42: surely there has to be a way to write packages to the system from the livecd? [00:49] print screen or SysRq jet [00:49] *key damn it >_< [00:50] Xepera: That's probably do able, but you'll have to figure out how to downgrade all the packages, and some of the configs may well have changed in ways the older packages won't understand [00:50] the problem is it's not showing anything at all during boot. looks like a bunch of jumbled garbage. X windows loads up to the login screen, but crashed beyond that [00:50] Xepera: Which graphics card? [00:50] nvidia [00:51] I'm no nvidia expert, I'd check to see if there are any answers for fixing nvidia drivers for it [00:51] Xepera: I'd make sure it's up to date as well [00:51] Xepera can't you run a session in low resolution or what was it and then install nvidia drivers from hardware drivers ? [00:52] penguin42: i cannot boot into the system. my network will not connect. I cannot get to the console to do any manual maintenance [00:52] Okidesu: no, that results in a crash too [00:52] Can't het alt+f2 to go to console ? [00:52] *he [00:52] no. [00:53] Xepera: Hmm tricky, I'd check the forums for fixes for nvidia - or ways to forcibly remove it, possibly from your current boot consider trying to disable the nvidia drivers on the installation [00:53] at this point i want to edit my sources.list from this livecd and attempt to downgrade. I would rather deal with a few broken config files than not have a working system at all [00:53] Xepera, is you /usr directory mounted on a separate partition? [00:53] Xepera: Seriously, your chances of downgrading are less than the chances of fixing the nvidia driver installation [00:53] bjsnider: no, unfortunately not [00:53] penguin42: it is not simply an nvidia drivers problem. [00:54] anyone gotten any disk failure warnings from disk utility? [00:54] Xepera, do you have embaded GPU in your motherboard !? [00:54] Okidesu: yes, but it's disabled in the bios [00:55] Xepera, why don't you try to enable it and remove your normal card, ofc if nothing else works o-o [00:55] nobody's willing to tell me how to edit the sources.list so i can downgrade? [00:55] i don't want to fix the system since it's broken well beyond what is usable [00:55] Xepera: I've never heard of a downgrade working - ever [00:56] the console should not be looking for a graphics driver [00:56] Xepera: If you really want to downgrade then reinstall [00:56] reinstall requires format iirc [00:56] yep [00:56] ok... i will look into this myself [00:57] isn't there an option not to format ? [00:57] Hi, can I somehow set the x/yres in my terminals? :S (vt1) [00:57] Okidesu: not that i've seen, unfortunately [00:57] fatbrain: What do you mean by res exactly? [00:57] Xepera, even in the advanced patitioning menu ? [00:58] penguin42: I want ... to fit more text in my screen :) [00:58] penguin42: i.e. more rows/cols. [00:58] Okidesu: To do that I'd use debootstrap to reinstall a fresh image [00:58] fatbrain: In the text console or in one in X ? [00:58] Okidesu: debootstrap should be able to do it on an existing filesystem if you clear out the rest of the installation but leave your own data [00:59] penguin42: by xorg edgers, do you mean https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [00:59] penguin42: : text console [00:59] olmari: Yes [00:59] Okidesu: no, it whines about "no root system is defined" [00:59] fatbrain Edit > Profiles > Legacy > Edit > Scrolling > Lines :p [01:00] fatbrain: you can load a smaller font (setfont) or you can change the resolution, I think fbset should be able to do that for you (there are some bootlines to do it as well) - although things have changed a bit with the new kernel mode setting I haven't fully got my head around [01:00] Xepera even if you edit your sources wouldn't it complain that the versions you have are newer then the ones you are trying to install anyway ?! [01:00] Okidesu, yes, but i can work around that [01:01] penguin42: indeed, I'll fiddle around a bit, thanks. [01:01] Okidesu: I really just need to know *how* to get it to write to the system from the livecd [01:01] I will deal with the fallout. I understand the warnings. [01:03] the system is completely unusable, as i have no access to console or X windows at this point [01:03] Xepera, you said that the system boots to login ? [01:03] Yes, but crashed immediately upon entering login information [01:04] dude -_- [01:04] Xepera: Instead of entering login info do ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you can get a text console [01:04] and switching to console fails [01:04] i'm pritty sure that you can Alt+F2 without entering login information [01:04] like i said [01:04] and go to console [01:04] i cannot get to text console [01:04] right ctrl+alt+f1 or F2 or F3 sorry [01:04] ... [01:05] i mentioned right off that that is failing as well [01:05] Xepera: I'd mount the root file system and knock out the nvidia driver [01:05] is there some way I can boot to a console instead of loading GDM. My kb and mouse are now both failing in X. [01:05] penguin42: same results :) [01:05] penguin42: also posted into mailinglist [01:05] penguin42: the text console has nothing to do with the nvidia driver [01:05] olmari: Could - good luck [01:06] Xepera, so the text console fails or it crashes when you try to load it with ctrl+alt+f1 ? [01:06] Xepera: It still loads a kernel module and I'm not sure how it interacts with the new kernel mode switch stuff [01:06] what do you mean by fails, it fails after you try to login in the console or it crashes when you use the shortcut keys ? [01:07] Okidesu: I don't know how to describe it, but it simply doesn't display anything but a bunch of white boxes toward the top of the screen (like nothing i've seen before) [01:07] Okidesu: it doesn't crash - i just can't access the text console at all because it won't display anything when i switch [01:07] is there some way I can boot to a console instead of loading GDM? My kb and mouse are now both failing in X. [01:08] Xepera, open box remove Nvidia card try that or reinstall and format, or get another Hdd install linux on it, copy files from your crashed hdd [01:08] really, nobody will tell me how to modify my current system from livecd? [01:08] can you browse it ? [01:08] there is nothing wrong with my hardware. it works fine [01:09] yes [01:09] ok replace "crashed hdd" with "destroyed ubuntu install" [01:09] ok [01:09] where is sources located [01:09] wait a minute which sources you want to edit lol :) [01:09] on the not working lucid install ? [01:09] located in /media/disk-1/etc/apt/sources.list [01:10] someone should slap me and tell me to shat ap now XD [01:11] anyone unable to enable desktop effects with the nvidia drivers? [01:12] Okidesu: i know how to edit the sources.list. I don't know how to tell this livecd to use that sources file, and to write those files to the appropriate partition [01:12] Xepera, you said you are on Karmic live cd right ? [01:12] Okidesu, Yes [01:12] Xepera, and you want to edit the sources with sources for ? [01:13] what? [01:14] well is there a "force install" on the installer on the live cd or something ? [01:15] Xepera: I think I'd edit the sources.list, chroot into the hard disk directory, mount /proc in there and then try and apt-get - but I still think you're chances are miniscule [01:15] Xepera, or if you have Ubuntu One account maybe you can store the files you need there and restore them afterwords [01:15] Okidesu: you mean through the installer program? [01:20] gosh i sux in helping in linux :) [01:20] the installer ain't going to help here [01:21] not sure what he's trying to save [01:22] I'm experiencing a joke. In my two different computers, after todays updates my kubuntu turned into ubuntu. see http://imagebin.ca/view/RZiOJMF.html unbelievable [01:23] kavurt: When you login does it offer you a choice of KDE or Gnome? [01:24] no, I didn't install gnome at all. [01:24] kavurt: Whether you wanted to or not, does it offer you a choice - that sure looks like gnome [01:25] I'll check. It logged in automatically. I'll be back [01:26] Xepera, but my best bet is remove Nvidia card and try with your onboard one :) think there's a good chance there [01:30] * penguin42 would still try and fix the current installation [01:31] Greets, everyone... I just installed Lucid via the minimal CD, then installed kubuntu-desktop. Now the system fails to boot, even in recovery mode. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. [01:31] contrast, do you get a blinking cursor [01:32] just trying to do this from a chrooted environment... will update you all on the results [01:32] Xepera, best of luck :) [01:32] I have upgraded to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS- the Lucid Lynx, but now want to downgrade to 9.10 again. What should I do? [01:32] modified source.list and the apt preferences file [01:32] sources.list* [01:33] Okidesu: Nope, just a solid one. Can't even switch to a TTY via Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6]. I _am_ able to reboot via Alt+SysRq+RSEIUB though, so it's obviously not the kernel itself that's crashing. [01:33] researcher1: you too, huh? [01:33] :) [01:33] researcher1: Downgrades aren't supported; I suggest you watch Xepera one as he tries to downgrade and see how painful it is and then reconsider [01:33] researcher1: i'm trying to do that right now - i will be updating this chat on the results [01:34] Xepera because I want to use Vbox 3.1.4 which is available for Ubuntu 9.10 n not above [01:34] time for bed [01:34] researcher1: ahhh, for something like that i would just find an alternative man [01:34] researcher1, VBox 3.1.4 is working fine on my Lucid install [01:34] contrast get random hangs like that, no idea what causes them :/ but with 2-3 reboots and spamming SysRq+alt+J or K it boots lol [01:34] researcher1: i can't even boot my system -- that's why i'm doing this [01:34] contrast, after installing the Nvidia drivers from hardware drivers it stoped [01:35] ok. then my system is enough stable. So far no trouble except the need to enjoy the benefits of Vbox 3.1.4 [01:36] Okidesu: Oohhh, that's comforting... Gonna try it, thanks... It's on its third attempted boot now, so I should just spam Alt+SysRq+J/K now, right? [01:36] researcher1, just install the DEB from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads works great [01:37] contrast, well i cross my fingers, at least here that's how it worked, also one time it worked when i booted to my Live USB stick and then when i went back it just worked ... [01:37] Okidesu: thanks for the good wishes :P [01:37] Okidesu: running the "upgrade" from chrooted console now [01:37] Xepera, too bad i'm too much of a noob to help more ^^ [01:38] Thanks ZykoticK9: Im going to try this [01:38] Okidesu: Good to know, thanks again. [01:38] Okidesu: the only issue so far was that I had to tell resolv.conf to point to the livecd version, otherwise apt-get upgrade laughed at me [01:39] Xepera, is it installing now ?! [01:40] Okidesu: It's running the upgrade... pulling all the karmic packages and replacing the lucid ones [01:40] aside from that i'm very happy with Lucid, my dual monitors work, surround sound, webcam, satellite tv card, wacom tablet :) it feels great. [01:41] Xepera, it's not complaining that they are newer version or anything ? [01:41] Okidesu: I wish I could say the same! [01:41] Okidesu: I just edited sources.list, and the apt preferences file. In the preferences file, I told it to ignore the newer version warning [01:41] Xepera, oh don't worry after a few updates i will be here with your problems hahaha [01:41] Xepera, ooo nice O-O [01:41] Okidesu: Hopefully I'll be able to help :P [01:42] Xepera, haahaha :D [01:42] for now i will just enjoy the dream of not needing windows for anything thou :D [01:42] Okidesu: I don't know what went wrong, but I'll be trying lucid out once it's officially released [01:43] Okidesu: yeah, i haven't used windows for some years now... i'm pretty new to ubuntu, though [01:43] Xepera, i know what you mean by the "cubes" rendering and everything looking weird [01:43] But I do have Windows 7 on my netbook [01:43] Xepera, experienced that one once, and it was nvidia drivers problem [01:43] really? i never saw that before, and it was crazy as hell... i don't know why i can't even get to the console. [01:44] Xepera, that's why if i were you i was going to take out the card and hope that Ubuntu will load different driver for it and it will all work [01:44] Okidesu: if this downgrade fails, I'll just upgrade back to lucid and try that :P [01:44] Xepera, yep it is crazy and when you start something you can't tell if it's running or not :) at best 1 or 2 cubes change their chaos patterns lol [01:44] lol [01:45] I'm way too impatient to troubleshoot all the broken stuff [01:45] lol yeah, they were moving around randomly [01:45] yep exactly the same thing [01:45] only at the top of the screen though [01:45] it doesn't matter [01:46] but if you can disable it from bios withotu opening your box that would be great [01:46] i can't do that because i have Intel motherboard god bless em ...... [01:46] i'm pretty sure i could do that [01:46] but i love my nvidia card :) [01:46] lol ok [01:48] i think i should go to taco bell and get some burritos. it may be a long night. [01:49] :) [01:50] was IRC support removed from telepathy-idle? [01:56] I did an upgrade from karmic to the current dev release of lucid. When I boot I get a error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found. sda + sdb are raided,encrypted drive, sdc is the OS drive.. no raid..only has sdc1 is / and swap no other partitions [01:57] I tried doing a chroot and forcing a re-install of grub. Ran the grub-install /dev/sdc manually [01:57] csgeek, regarding the "grub_puts_" part you might want to see this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1397629 [01:57] any other ideas? [01:58] hi. [01:59] why did people think it was a good idea to remove all references to usb in the startup disk creator? [01:59] thanks ZykoticK9 [01:59] csgeek, hope it works for you man [02:00] Is anyone using a lappy on +1? When you put your mouse over the battery icon, do you get a popup saying the %/amount of time left? [02:08] not yet.. but that's my next upgrade depending on the amount of pain the desktop upgrade entails. [02:08] here's a question. sda && sdb are raided encrypted drive.. just data drive. [02:09] what's os2mac up to [02:09] would it hurt anything if I install the bootloaded on sda ? [02:10] *sigh* even nicks with mac are annoying it seems [02:10] lol [02:14] I'm running out of ideas [02:15] Okidesu: w00t w00t. Removed the nVidia card, booted to a TTY, installed the nvidia-glx, popped the card back in and now everything appears to be fine. Thanks again. :) [02:16] contrast, woot :D nice ! [02:21] wtf.. okay why did that work... [02:21] and why does my computer look like it's on acid [02:23] so.. I had to install the bootloader to sda [02:23] it seems [02:32] any temp fix for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/538214 [02:32] Launchpad bug 538214 in plymouth "Booting with the framebuffer renderer leaves the system at textual "login:" screen" [High,Confirmed] [02:37] So, has anyone else been having issues with the X login not loading until you hit the enter key? [02:38] lancifer, actually hitting the enter key crashes Xorg -- this is a longstanding and very common bug [02:39] lancifer, bug #532047 [02:40] Launchpad bug 532047 in plymouth "Plymouth text-mode splash causes X to crash on first run due to shared tty7" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532047 [02:40] wierd, it sits on a blank screen with a blinking cursor. I hit enter and the Xorg logon screen loads === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [02:40] what is the best dock? [02:41] FFForever, like #ubuntu this isn't really the place for polls - personally i'm enjoying the newly separted from GnomeDo, Docky program - but it requires Compiz [02:42] docky?, what is the project page? [02:45] !info docky [02:45] docky (source: docky): Elegant, powerful, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 594 kB, installed size 2440 kB [02:46] FFForever, if you ever saw GnomeDo with the Docky theme - this is a fork/split of that (new in Lucid) === tamran_ is now known as tamran === meatcar_ is now known as meatcar [04:01] Hello all [04:02] Is power consumption optimized in 10.04 alpha3 or is there a way to turn this feature "on"? [04:03] amit1_, i don't know about the power consumption - but this channel is DEAD tonight... You might have to re-ask at another time, when people are actually here. You where the first post in over an hour. [04:03] haha [04:03] okay thats fine, #ubuntu seems to be full [04:04] amit1_, buy you're liking Lucid so far? Saw you entering #ubuntu - thought you'd been suggested to leave [04:04] haha, yah, happy saturday before st. patricks day =p [04:04] I just installed Lucid today [04:04] So far it seems stable and I like the improvements [04:04] I just ran the update manager and did all the updates [04:04] Has anybody confirmed the ipod touch support? [04:05] tcsoccerman, i haven't tried, but i've heard it's buggy [04:05] amit1_, get use to LOTS of updates with Lucid [04:05] midway through the update, GNOME kicked me out to low color graphics mode [04:05] I just rebooted and it worked fine, but reported that synaptics crashed [04:05] ddecator, hopefully it is stable for release. it would help ubuntu immensely. [04:05] hey is anyone here familiar with kernel modules? [04:06] tcsoccerman, agreed. i guess you can access the music on the itouch and play them on the comp, but syncing music to the itouch doesn't work quite right [04:06] and yes, i know it's "ipod touch" but itouch is easier... [04:06] tcsoccerman, i don't even own an ipod or iphone and i think support in ubuntu would be a great thing [04:06] I'm going to try it with my IPhone [04:07] amit1_, back it up on itunes first [04:07] just in case [04:07] whats a good software for ITunes-like syncing etc? [04:07] ya. the only reason i am dual botting vista right now is for itunes. [04:07] amarok? [04:07] amit1_, i think rhythmbox is the only one with official itouch and iphone support... [04:07] but for itunes style, songbird is amazing...but not available in lucid yet, even with ppa [04:08] i need to get to work on that... [04:08] i love songbird [04:08] ddecator, i'm using Songbird on Lucid [04:08] but it needs to start living up to what people expect of it [04:08] ZykoticK9, and it works for you? the upgrade borked the daily for me [04:08] by the way, cairo dock is awesome [04:08] songbird often has fights with the gstreamer libs ive seen :) [04:08] docky is better ;) [04:09] Dr_Willis, that's what the daily is doing i think [04:09] maybe the stable works, but the daily is a no-go for me right now [04:09] ive seen pages with fix's to try. One was a simple EXPORT variable. [04:09] I think it forced it to use the system libs and not its own [04:09] hmm.. I guess Rhythmbox comes built in with Lucid... [04:09] i guess one of the files got deleted at some point, so the ppa hasn't been updated in a long time [04:09] i used the tar.gz version from the songbird homepage the other day [04:10] Not tried it on 10.04 yet [04:10] ddecator, can docky be themed to look like mac os style? [04:10] ddecator, i just checked and i am using PPA daily - is working fine?! [04:10] I guess theres no need to install iphone apps through the PC...we can just do it on the phone itself [04:10] is this the place to ask lucid server questions too? [04:10] kindofabuzz, yes [04:11] amit1_, yup, it's the default right now [04:11] tcsoccerman, yes [04:11] okay guys, i'm about to plug in my Iphone... [04:11] amit1_,ooooo [04:11] ZykoticK9, really? it keeps repeating the same song for me, but it SHOWS that it's playing the next song...even in safe mode [04:11] If i dont respond in 5 minutes, don't come looking for me, just RUN [04:11] lol [04:11] ddecator, will i'll tell you what happens at the end of this song then [04:11] s/will/well [04:12] ZykoticK9, it might take a few songs to happen [04:12] i tried to upgrade webmin and it just hung. so i stopped it, now i can't uninstall webmin because it says "E: The package webmin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." but when i try to reinstall it just hangs again [04:12] !webmin > kindofabuzz [04:12] kindofabuzz, please see my private message [04:12] "Iphone is now mounted" !! [04:12] nice! that is awesome [04:12] ZykoticK9, doh! i love webmin! [04:13] wow it shows up in Rhythmbox right away.... [04:13] try and sync a song. i dare you. [04:13] kindofabuzz, have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ? [04:13] ZykoticK9, i get the same error [04:14] aw damnit, it won't play a song, it says I am missing a plugin... [04:14] gstreamer [04:14] kindofabuzz, ? sorry man, no idea [04:14] gstreamer is missing a plugin... [04:14] i think that is normal [04:14] amit1_, install the plugin [04:14] yeh but what plugin [04:15] do you have gstreamer installed? [04:15] i don't think there is a separate plugin for it... [04:15] amit1_,http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8889369&postcount=15 [04:15] let the games begin [04:16] it's the thrill of the chase ;) [04:19] any luck amit1_? [04:21] okay, well the cool thing is that Rhthmbox can actually search for the correct plugins to download [04:21] SUCCESS, it plays, it plays! [04:21] yes, but can you put music onto your iphone and have it play after disconnecting it? [04:21] ^ [04:21] i think that's where most people get stuck... [04:22] hmm let me try.. [04:23] i've already abandoned itunes, but i can't upgrade my bb with ubuntu or watch netflix instant watch yet...get those two, and i can free up half of my hdd [04:23] thats interesting, it shows up as a camera device and an Iphone on my desktop [04:24] both at the same time? [04:24] yes [04:24] I dont see any "Sync" button here [04:24] ddecator, well my 5 song playlist completed without repeating, i'll try the library now [04:24] where are the changes detailed for each alpha/beta release listed? such as the moving the window icons stuff [04:24] ZykoticK9, son of a...might just be my system [04:25] my sound indicator keeps resetting... [04:25] amit1_, you are supposed to drag and drop [04:26] that worked from phone -> PC [04:26] amit1_, where people have trouble is that it does not sync after the drag and drop. well it does but only every other time. [04:26] I dont think I can delete songs from the Iphone.. [04:27] "delete" is grayed out [04:27] chelz, i don't know of a changelog for all of lucid (other then the notes on the download page of each alpha so far), i think it's the individual packages that get changelogs - not too handy really [04:27] oh wait it just deleted :) [04:28] ZykoticK9: i was hoping for some kind of official blog that would talk about the current status, things left to be done, things needing overhauls still, etc [04:28] is there no face of ubuntu+1? [04:29] chelz, have a look at Milestones - link wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule [04:29] yah, i think it's all for individual packages...a changelog of EVERYTHING in lucid would be extremely hectic to try and read [04:29] okay, so heres an issue, it showed the file being deleted from the Iphone, but it actually didn't delete anything [04:29] chelz, face? [04:29] amit1_, cool. so everything has worked so far? [04:29] ZykoticK9: pr people almost [04:29] amit1_, nvm. [04:30] chelz, ? [04:30] ZykoticK9: say just something to announce all these new icons and themes, something more official than people loading up the discs themselves and reporting [04:31] chelz, "UserInterfaceFreeze" on March 4th so on that day we got the new theme [04:31] chelz, that way it wasn't up for debate [04:32] amit!_, have you successfully synced a file to the iphone from cp? [04:33] well, it won't delete a song [04:33] ZykoticK9: isn't that really bad? [04:33] have you tried sync though? [04:33] I didnt see a sync option [04:34] tcsoccerman, personally i think the design team need to re-read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, but hey - Ubuntu != democracy [04:34] chelz, ^ [04:35] zyk, what are you talking about? [04:35] ZykoticK9: so who said it was ok to push something out without community input? [04:35] amit1_, try dragging a file from cp library to iphone [04:35] tcsoccerman, sorry wrong person [04:35] yes, thats what i'm going to try next [04:35] copy mp3 from PC -> Iphone [04:35] Iphone -> PC worked... [04:36] chelz, the Ubuntu designers get to do whatever they wish - and we live/deal with the fallout... that's life. [04:36] chelz, if you can't already tell - i'm NOT a fan of the theme/button change [04:37] well i heard the button location switched back to the right side. was this discussed with the design team on mailing lists anywhere [04:37] ? [04:37]