[01:29] <hggdh> what was this all about?
[01:30] <nigelb> hggdh: what was what?
[01:35] <mrburns> hi all i am new to triaging i am working on bug 538537 i think that it is a duplicate but don't know what to do next?  do i try and find the original bug?
[01:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 538537 in linux (Ubuntu) "Hibernate awakes itself as soon as the screen switches off in lucid lynx (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/538537
[01:44] <greg-g> mrburns: yeah, find a more complete bug (one that has been triaged, for instance) that describes the same symptoms. But, this one is complicated because hibernation/suspend/kernel bugs are sometimes very hardware specific, so make sure that the other bug is for the same hardware before you mark it a duplicate.
[01:45] <mrburns> greg-g: for this should i ask for more information from this person
[01:56] <greg-g> mrburns: I'm not the best with kernel bugs, but here is a debugging page about it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
[01:57] <greg-g> for more general debugging information see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[03:56] <nigelb> hggdh: you around?
[03:56] <nigelb> need your thoughts on anjal - its ftbs right now
[04:35] <lfaraone> If bug 419501 has a bunch of subscribers (due the the bug in libxcb), and I want to SRU the fix (workaround in client package python-gasp) to Karmic, should I open a new bug to avoid cluttering up the report?
[04:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 419501 in python-gasp (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 4 other projects) "apport-kde assert failure: python: ../../src/xcb_io.c:242: process_responses: Assertion `(((long) (dpy->last_request_read) - (long) (dpy->request)) <= 0)' failed. (affects: 137) (dups: 69)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419501
[04:57] <Damascene> Cannot connect to crash database, please check your Internet connection.
[04:58] <Damascene> I'm connected as you can see
[05:01] <micahg> lfaraone: if that's the bug you're fixing, that's the bug you should SRU in, people should be happy someone is fixing
[05:02] <micahg> lfaraone: it makes people feel bug submission is worthwhile when fixed :)
[05:03] <nigelb> anyone on xubuntu?
[05:07] <micahg> nigelb: yes
[05:08] <nigelb> micahg: Under system, what headings do you see? About XFCE and about Ubuntu too?
[05:08] <micahg> nigelb: no About Ubuntu on karmic
[05:09] <nigelb> micahg: aha, there is an old bug about About xfce not having ubuntu details and a patch
[05:09] <micahg> nigelb: the first tab has info about Xubuntu
[05:10] <nigelb> its bug 215090
[05:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 215090 in xfce4-utils (Ubuntu) "Xfce about dialog does not display xubuntu/ubuntu version" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215090
[05:10] <lfaraone> micahg: well, the bug that people reported would be still extant, just not in that client package, where we worked around it. (apport-kde will still fail)
[05:10] <micahg> lfaraone: then what is fixed released?
[05:11] <lfaraone> micahg: python-gasp has been fixed in Lucid, but the bug is actually present in libxcb.
[05:24] <micahg> lfaraone: idk, was the bug also present in python-gasp?
[06:57] <dwg> heh
[07:54] <nigelb> micahg: knock it off ;)
[07:55] <nigelb> hahaha, its like this big argument going on in !ubuntu
[07:55] <ddecator> uh oh, what about? haha
[07:55] <maco> with apparent agreement that kubuntu's pretty :)
[07:56] <micahg> nigelb: I let myself get sucked into these things
[07:56] <nigelb> maco: haha, well, with the new themes, its a tie
[07:56] <nigelb> micahg: hehe, but you gave him right back :)
[07:56] <ddecator> micahg, need something to do while your computer is slow ;)
[07:57] <nigelb> ddecator: http://identi.ca/conversation/24602232#notice-24706897
[07:57] <maco> nigelb: i think the people in !ubuntu are arguing that kubuntu is prettier and theyre glad canonical's not touching it so it'll stay that way
[07:58] <nigelb> maco: nah, its more like "Oh no! Ubuntu looks Kubuntu, how yucky"
[07:58]  * nigelb runs
[07:58] <maco> nigelb: no!
[07:58] <ddecator> canonical doesn't want community anymore?!
[07:58] <ddecator> where did that come from?
[07:59] <nigelb> ddecator: thats why I said, its not worth it
[07:59] <maco> someone said theyre glad canonical doesnt interfere with kubuntu because kubuntu's pretty, and someone else said thats because kde is already good looking
[08:00] <micahg> maco: I like the Kubuntu color scheme :)
[08:00] <maco> i actually really liked the brown
[08:00] <nigelb> maco: I agree Kubuntu is pretty, only I seem lost with it
[08:00] <maco> i dont like the new purple thing
[08:00] <nigelb> maco: you dont?
[08:00] <maco> no
[08:00] <maco> i think the wallpaper looks like it was punched a few times and turned into a bruise
[08:01] <nigelb> almost all my female friends loved the purple
[08:01] <nigelb> hm, I guess I shouldn't generalize
[08:02] <ddecator> i keep seeing that guy when i open gwibber...i might just block him
[08:02] <nigelb> maco: I'm okay with the purple, but I need to get used to right left thingie
[08:02] <maco> since switching to kubuntu i've either had default kde wallpapers or photos i took of flowers
[08:02] <ddecator> nigelb, i switched it back to right =p
[08:02] <nigelb> ddecator: haha
[08:02] <nigelb> maco: I've got a pic from a flickr friend
[08:03] <ddecator> i made my own =D
[08:03] <nigelb> maco: oh wait, its a pic of me
[08:03] <maco> nigelb: my window manager doesnt have buttons. shift+mod+c closes windows, maximize is what a single window automatically does, and there is no minimize
[08:03] <maco> yay tiling window managers :)
[08:03] <nigelb> maco: thats nice
[08:05] <maco> the picture frame widgets on my desktop seem to have convince an ubuntu user the other night to try kubuntu :)
[08:05] <maco> but anyway, i shoud sleep now
[08:05] <maco> bye bye
[08:05] <ddecator> cya maco
[08:05] <nigelb> maco: good night.
[08:05] <nigelb> maco: good morning rather ;)
[08:06] <ddecator> touche
[08:06] <maco> i'm 2 timezones west of usual today ;-)
[08:06] <nigelb> maco: oh right.  I read
[08:06] <nigelb> so it should be 12
[08:07] <micahg> just hit 3 for me :)
[08:07] <nigelb> ah well, I'm the only sane person here
[08:07] <ddecator> and me =)
[08:07] <nigelb> its :30
[08:07] <nigelb> 1:30
[08:08] <ddecator> nigelb, pft, night owls ftw
[08:08] <nigelb> haha... 1:30 pm
[14:37] <nigelb> bdmurray: ping
[15:09] <malev> hello! is this bug 522136 a bug? I think it is not, but the OR think it's actually a bug
[15:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 522136 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus wants to mount live CD as upgradeable software media (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522136
[15:20] <nigelb> malev: not a bug I believe
[15:20] <malev> nigelb, I agree. but what can I tell to the OR?
[15:22] <nigelb> "Thank you for reporting a bug.  This is not a bug but a feature of nautilus recognizing package files and is working as intended.  Please do not hesitate to report any other bugs you may find"
[15:22] <nigelb> that would work I think
[15:23] <malev> nigelb, thanks!!
[15:45] <hernejj> Hi. I believe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/538688 to be ready for Triage with Importance=Low.
[15:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 538688 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[Light themes] Tomboy icon needs to be adapted (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:46] <nigelb> vish: ^ your area of expertise ;)
[15:46] <vish> hernejj: are you sure it is a big in the light-themes?
[15:48] <hernejj> vish: This affects the Ubuntu-Mono-Light icon theme.  I believe this is part of "light-themes".
[15:48] <vish> hernejj: nope , the ubuntu-mono is a separate package
[15:48] <hernejj> vish: I see. My apologies. I will go verify and make that change.
[15:49] <vish> hernejj: btw , there is a bug in humanity for that , you can due this bug to the older bug
[15:49] <vish> hernejj: it needs to be fixed in tomboy first
[15:49] <vish> s/due/do is
[15:50] <vish> argh that was  ..dupe*
[15:50]  * vish doesnt even know what he's typing :/
[15:50] <nigelb> vish: out by 9:20, wow
[15:51] <hernejj> vish: Not sure we want to fix this in Tomboy, do we? I think the currently icon should remain the default for Tomboy. We just want the desaturated version for the Light theme.
[15:51] <vish> hernejj: yes , we need to fix it in tomboy as well , the humanity bug has the info
[15:51] <hernejj> Ok, I'll go take a look.
[15:53] <vish> nigelb: meh , watching movie ;)  so bound to be distracted
[15:54] <hernejj> vish: Do you happen to have a link to the bug you are referring to? I've tried various searches in LP and cannot seem to locate it.
[15:55] <vish> hernejj: Bug #531533
[15:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 531533 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Tomboy needs a monochrome Humanity Icon (affects: 4) (dups: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531533
[15:57] <nigelb> vish: shame on you.  you should be watching the match
[15:57] <vish> hernejj: the problem is the tomboy uses the same icon for both panel and menus
[15:57] <vish> nigelb: well , you pinged me... ;p
[15:57]  * vish adds nigelb to ignore list ;p
[15:57] <nigelb> haha
[15:57] <BUGabundo> bad bad bad vish
[15:58] <greg-g> no upstream bug task for that bug? :)
[15:58]  * BUGabundo nukes vish's ignore list, and sees him go MAD
[15:58] <nigelb> vish: it was your area anyway ;)
[15:58] <vish> :D
[15:58] <vish> greg-g: righto..
[15:58]  * vish updates bug
[15:59]  * BUGabundo needs no updating
[16:00] <hernejj> vish: I see.  I'd like to take a look at the currently existing monochrome icon for Tobmoy but in the end I'll probably follow your advice and dupe this one. Thanks :)
[16:07] <greg-g> vish:  :)  I couldn't find an upstream bug on the issue, do you know of one?
[16:09] <vish> greg-g: nope, i dont believe there is... not sure they would be motivated to change it for ubuntu unless we submit a patch
[16:09] <vish>   /me pokes hernejj to file one ;)
[16:09] <hernejj> vish: Will do.
[16:27] <greg-g> vish: hernejj awesome, thanks!
[17:46] <vish> hernejj: if you are willing to submit a patch , just submit it , :)  we can atleast proceed in Ubuntu if upstream doesnt move fast enough for Lucid;)
[17:47] <hernejj> vish: Fair enough. I'll look into it some time this evening. I'm sure it is probably trivial but I've never worked with panel apps before.
[17:49] <vish> hernejj: qense can probably help you with it..
[17:49] <hernejj> vish: If we have a patch just for the Ubuntu version, what happens when upstream releases a new version? Do we (the Ubuntu community) continuously maintain a vast number of our own patches that do not get accepted upstream? This seems like a ton of extra work.
[17:49] <qense> vish: How can I help?
[17:50] <vish> qense: tomboy needs to use separate icon for panel , hernejj is willing to fix that [not the app indicator port]
[17:50] <hernejj> qense: I'm going to create a patch to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/531533  But I've never worked with panel apps.
[17:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 531533 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Tomboy needs a monochrome Humanity Icon (affects: 6) (dups: 3)" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[17:50] <qense> hernejj: Have you found the line you need to change?
[17:51] <hernejj> I'm sure it is fairly trivial and I can figure it out.
[17:51] <hernejj> I've not looked into it as of yet.
[17:52] <qense> hernejj: It's an easy fix indeed. You need to look for the line that sets the icon name and change it. Then you can generate a patch.
[17:53] <hernejj> qense: So a 1-liner huh? :) Aside from copying and renaming the icon file.
[17:53] <qense> hernejj: Copying?
[17:54] <qense> hernejj: You could also check if {ICON_NAME}-panel exists in the current theme and if so, use {ICON_NAME}-panel as the panel icon, otherwise {ICON_NAME}.
[17:54] <hernejj> Well, if Tomboy uses the icon named "tomboy" for both menu & panel... we'll want to make a copy named "tomboy-panel" and leave the original icon alone.
[17:55] <qense> You could look in my Banshee patch for an example of how to do this.
[17:55] <hernejj> qense: I'll take a look. Do you have a link?
[17:55] <qense> hernejj: I'm looking it up right now.
[17:56] <qense> hernejj: It's at <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=156122>, in the newly created IndicatorApplicationNotificationAreaBox.cs file
[17:57] <qense> hernejj: It's around one third of the page.
[17:57] <hernejj> qense: I see it. Thanks for the information.
[17:57] <qense> yw
[19:56] <ekilfoil> i need to file a bug against lucid for gtkmm.. there's an upstream bug that has been corrected, but lucid still ships an old version of gtkmm... how do I do this?
[19:57] <micahg> ekilfoil: that package doesn't appear to be in lucid
[19:57] <ekilfoil> the full package name is libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a
[19:57] <micahg> ah
[19:59] <micahg> ekilfoil: if it's a bugfix only release, you can request an upgrade to the latest version
[19:59] <ekilfoil> http://pastebin.com/XPP7uge5
[19:59] <ekilfoil> i'm not sure what upstream has done
[19:59] <ekilfoil> i just know that this bug affects my program :)
[20:02] <ekilfoil> i did find this bug against regexxer which is the same problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/regexxer/+bug/521412
[20:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 521412 in regexxer (Ubuntu) "regexxer crashes on search and replace (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[20:02] <BUGabundo> micahg: openjdk is messing with my taxes :( all I see is empty fields, where letters are supposed to be in :(
[20:03] <micahg> BUGabundo: the pre18?
[20:03] <BUGabundo> micahg: ?
[20:03] <micahg> which version?
[20:03] <micahg> ekilfoil: idk, maybe check in #ubuntu-desktop on Monday
[20:05] <BUGabundo> micahg:   Installed: 6b18~pre2-1ubuntu1
[20:05] <BUGabundo> I though it was _just_ fonts, but I was wrong. I already have ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it didn't help
[20:05] <micahg> BUGabundo: any errors on the error console?
[20:06] <cjohnston> vish: bug 532633 isnt a bug.. It is a wishlist item at best.. but it performs the way it is designed to.. which is why I set it to invalid. As you stated, triaged means that the report describes a genuine bug.. Again.. not a bug..  a wishlist item.
[20:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532633 in metacity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" (affects: 171) (dups: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532633
[20:06] <BUGabundo> micahg: none
[20:07] <micahg> cjohnston: wishlist can be triaged as well
[20:07] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: or a regression :S
[20:07] <ekilfoil> micahg: ok thanks
[20:08] <vish> cjohnston: i said , it was not invalid ;)  ... it can be a "wont fix" , but still it is a bug
[20:08] <cjohnston> no.. it isnt a bug.. if it performs as designed (which it does) it cant be wont fix because it isnt a bug
[20:09] <cjohnston> it is a wishlist item
[20:09] <micahg> cjohnston: wishlist can be won't fix
[20:09] <BUGabundo> micahg: in case you want to test it yourself or pass along to who ever takes care of openjdk, here is the national official tax app: http://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/pt/main.jsp
[20:09] <BUGabundo> http://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/pt/download/Modelo3IRSv2010_unix.sh
[20:09] <cjohnston> micahg: i dont disagree.. i had it marked invalid and he told me it wasnt invalid.. it isnt a bug.. therefore invalid is correct
[20:10] <vish> cjohnston: even though it is designed as it is now , it is a design flaw. that is the bug , the design has no explanation.  i dont understand why it isnt a bug :)
[20:10] <micahg> cjohnston: no, it's not invalid as it's a wishlist item, so you can mark won't fix
[20:11] <micahg> cjohnston: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[20:12] <cjohnston> This should also be used if the reported problem is not a bug at all  - invalid
[20:12] <micahg> cjohnston: yes, but that doesn't include wishlist
[20:17] <cjohnston> my personal opinion is this bug should be closed and a new wishlist item be opened requesting (and then someone do it instead of just complain like that bug has become) that in the prefs >appearance dialog there is an option
[20:17] <cjohnston> but reports should not be for crying like that bug now is
[20:17] <micahg> cjohnston: it happens
[20:17] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: do you mind taking a peak at #ubuntu+1? thanks
[20:17] <micahg> cjohnston: you can add the workaround in the description
[20:18] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: we have at least one of those , on every cycle, everytime canonical UI team touchs stuff we are used too
[20:20] <micahg> cjohnston: we had one of those during the karmic devel cycle
[20:21] <BUGabundo> update-manager changes, fusa changes (I'm still waiting for a wait to shutdown without using a mouse), etc
[20:21] <cjohnston> it doesnt matter what changes are made.. someone will cry.. if they change it back to the way it used to be, then people will complain that they want the new design back
[20:21] <BUGabundo> and why is the "show desktop" icon PINK? my desktop is not pink !
[20:21] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: probably
[20:21] <cjohnston> BUGabundo: you know you like pink!
[20:21] <cjohnston> if nothing else i will
[20:21] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: actually I don't!
[20:21] <cjohnston> :-P
[20:22] <BUGabundo> not even in girls
[20:22] <BUGabundo> much less on my desktop
[20:22] <cjohnston> my boy can pull of pink.. but i cant
[20:22] <cjohnston> what about purple BUGabundo
[20:22] <BUGabundo> Show Desktop Button 2.29.92.1
[20:22] <BUGabundo> from Red Hat
[20:22] <BUGabundo> and ITS PINK :(
[20:22] <cjohnston> http://doctormo.org/2010/03/13/new-business-card/
[20:22] <cjohnston> new purple business card
[20:22] <cjohnston> lol
[20:22] <vish> cjohnston: changes are made? and people should not complain? ;)  then why have a lp
[20:23] <cjohnston> vish: LP shouldnt be how complaints are made
[20:23] <vish> cjohnston: obviously you havent seen lp for a long time ;)
[20:23] <cjohnston> im not saying thats not how it is
[20:24]  * vish dishes out bugs where people have been whining
[20:24] <BUGabundo> vish: does that mean I *shouldn't* file a bug saying my Show Desktop Button is pink/fushia/purple ?
[20:24] <BUGabundo> :|
[20:25] <vish> lol.. BUGabundo thats what cjohnston is telling
[20:25] <BUGabundo> but NOTHING on my desktop or theme is pink
[20:26] <BUGabundo> why is  the darn icon?
[20:26] <cjohnston> no.. a bug should be useful information.. not just, I don't like the new theme...
[20:26] <BUGabundo> shouldn't it match my theme too?
[20:26] <cjohnston> propose solutions...
[20:26] <cjohnston> provide solutions
[20:26] <cjohnston> not just say i dont like it
[20:26] <micahg> cjohnston: a simple request to restore an old look is a valid bug
[20:26] <BUGabundo> cjohnston: "match icon to theme"
[20:26] <micahg> cjohnston: the crying and whining on the otherhand isn't, but that's the nature of bugtrackers
[20:27] <cjohnston> micahg: your first comment i agree with... a request.. but complaining about the new design is what im referring to.
[20:27] <micahg> cjohnston: unfortunately, people feel the need to me too in bugs...
[20:28] <cjohnston> yu[
[20:29] <micahg> cjohnston: I was wondering if the new bug heat is working and I see it's four flames...
[20:29] <cjohnston> micahg: ya..
[20:30] <cjohnston> but i have some bugs ive filed.. that are a communication between me and one other person basically.. with only affects me.. and they have 4 heat too
[20:30] <cjohnston> so i still dont get it
[20:30] <micahg> cjohnston: it depends on how many bugs are filed against the package as well
[20:31] <cjohnston> micahg: bug 532406 and bug 532347
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532406 in classbot "Add info about asking a question with question: in the topic of -chat (affects: 1)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532406
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532347 in classbot "Tweet/Dent Upcoming Sessions in #ubuntu-classroom (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532347
[20:32] <micahg> cjohnston: you only have 12 bugs, so it's relative
[20:32] <cjohnston> but why only those two
[20:32] <BUGabundo> 12bugs?
[20:32] <BUGabundo> wow
[20:32] <BUGabundo> I got MORE bug mail today then that
[20:32] <BUGabundo> thanks to automated replies to update my old bugs
[20:32] <cjohnston> BUGabundo: its a small project
[20:33] <cjohnston> Have you met my ClassBot yet? :-P
[20:33] <BUGabundo> well, I marked most of them invalid
[20:33] <cjohnston> and nhandler's too
[20:33] <BUGabundo> maybe
[20:33] <nhandler> ???
[20:33] <BUGabundo> the name is not strange to me
[20:33] <micahg> cjohnston: https://dev.launchpad.net/Bugs/BugHeat#Algorithm
[20:33] <BUGabundo> waky waky nhandler
[20:33] <cjohnston> nhandler: talking about bug heat with those twho classbot bugs
[20:33] <nhandler> Ah, ok
[20:34] <BUGabundo> micahg: so any hints on my jdk bug? anywhere I should go ? I really really would like to get my Taxes done :\
[20:34]  * cjohnston got his $$ back! :-)
[20:35] <BUGabundo> see?? some smart country that doesn't use JAVA for taxes
[20:35] <cjohnston> i dont know that i would agree with the smart country part
[20:35] <cjohnston> lol
[20:35] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: heh, Poland doesnt use Java - we have an application written in Air :/
[20:35] <micahg> BUGabundo: I can't log in
[20:35] <kklimonda> as in Adobe Air
[20:35] <BUGabundo> eeewwwwww
[20:36] <BUGabundo> micahg: no need to loing
[20:36] <BUGabundo> *login
[20:36] <micahg> BUGabundo: do you have sun java installed
[20:36] <micahg> BUGabundo: where do I click then?
[20:36] <BUGabundo> after install, I open it, and all boxes miss the text
[20:36] <BUGabundo> no sun
[20:36] <BUGabundo> just jdk
[20:36] <BUGabundo> I think
[20:36]  * BUGabundo checks
[20:37] <BUGabundo> sun-java6-jre:
[20:37] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 6-16-1
[20:37] <BUGabundo> then again....
[20:37]  * BUGabundo goes check alternatives
[20:38] <BUGabundo> micahg: galternatives shows every package using openjdk
[20:38] <micahg> BUGabundo: what does firefox show for plugins?
[20:39] <BUGabundo> IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea6  1.8pre (6b18~pre2-1ubuntu1))
[20:40] <micahg> BUGabundo: well, I'm not on lucid yet, so I can't really check, the only other suggestion would be to try in a new profile
[20:43] <yofel> BUGabundo: you do know that the sun-java6-plugin doesn't work with ffx3.6 in lucid without fixing a symlink?
[20:43] <BUGabundo> micahg: back. just tested on a Guest Session, same thing! will try from a livecd
[20:43] <BUGabundo> yofel: I'm not using sun java in F
[20:43] <BUGabundo> *FF
[20:44] <micahg> yofel: openjdk
[20:44] <yofel> BUGabundo: ah, thought you used as you said sun-java6-jre ^^
[21:23] <BUGabundo> micahg: yofel: installing sun-java from Parter repo, fixed my Tax app prob!
[21:24] <micahg> BUGabundo: that means their are bugs in the openjdk version
[21:35] <BUGabundo> micahg: would seem so. what info would the bug report need? does a screenshot help ?
[21:37] <micahg> BUGabundo: idk...I think there's a way to get debug output for it, but I don't know how offhand
[21:46]  * BUGabundo is glad he has save all 8 older firefox profiles since FF 2.x.... old tax login was in one!
[21:54] <kklimonda> :D
[22:26] <gilbert> is there an email interface for ubuntu bugs?  i.e. like debian's submit@bugs.debian.org?
[22:28] <cjohnston> gilbert: yes
[22:28] <cjohnston> one sec
[22:29] <cjohnston> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[22:29] <cjohnston> gilbert: ^
[22:32] <gilbert> thanks cjohnston!
[22:33] <cjohnston> np
[23:41] <Aris2358> hi, need help with a couple of bugs in ubuntu lucid
[23:41] <ddecator> mkay, how can we help?
[23:41] <Aris2358> not sure how to feel the bug
[23:42] <Aris2358> the sound stops working in lucid
[23:42] <Aris2358> but I have no clue
[23:42] <ddecator> Aris2358, have you looked on launchpad to see if that has been filed already?
[23:43] <Aris2358> yes, I have looked
[23:43] <Aris2358> nothing similar,
[23:43] <Aris2358> delay with sound, but it don't stop working
[23:44] <Aris2358> not like here
[23:44] <ddecator> this is crimsun's territory, but he's not here...
[23:44] <Aris2358> I tried to restart the alsa server but it didn't work
[23:45] <ddecator> Aris2358, have you tried asking for help in #ubuntu+1 ?
[23:45] <Aris2358> no, what is it about?
[23:46] <ddecator> Aris2358, that channel is used for discussing things pertaining to lucid. there may be somewhere there that can help you figure out what is going on
[23:46] <ddecator> s/somewhere/someone
[23:46] <Aris2358> ok I'll try
[23:46] <Aris2358> another one please
[23:46] <ddecator> what's that?
[23:46] <Aris2358> I have problems when I open two sessions at the same time
[23:47] <Aris2358> sooner or later I am taken out of both sessions
[23:47] <Aris2358> the one I work with and the other
[23:47] <Aris2358> in the other all is closed abruptly
[23:47] <ddecator> you mean you log in to two accounts and eventually they both get logged out and you end up at gdm?
[23:48] <Aris2358> yes, that's right
[23:48] <Aris2358> gdm and need to enter again
[23:48] <ddecator> Aris2358, does it happen more than once after starting your system?
[23:48] <Aris2358> yes
[23:48] <Aris2358> I let that happen the first time
[23:49] <Aris2358> so I have no problems with that till I open another session
[23:49] <ddecator> Aris2358, anything that seems to consistently cause it to happen?
[23:49] <Aris2358> no, I have no clue either
[23:50] <Aris2358> but keeps hanging every 20 minutes or so
[23:50] <Aris2358> if I use only one session I have no problems
[23:51] <ddecator> Aris2358, ask about that in #ubuntu+1 as well...it's hard to tell what could be causing the problem if it isn't consistent so i don't know what package the bug would be in...
[23:51] <Aris2358> yes, I know it is difficult, that's why I don't want to fill a bug
[23:52] <Aris2358> but I want somehow to get it know
[23:52] <Aris2358> to make it known
[23:52] <ddecator> Aris2358, you can always try doing a google search of "site:bugs.launchpad.net <search terms>" and see if someone else has reported the same problems
[23:53] <Aris2358> I hope it to be related with the first hang of the session so solving one solving the other
[23:54] <Aris2358> ok, I'll try, thanks a lot
[23:54] <ddecator> Aris2358, no problem, and you can always come back here if you don't find your answers =)
[23:55] <Aris2358> thanks, bye