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nigelbdoes every sync need an ffe?00:36
crimsunonly if it's a new version00:36
nigelbwe need to sync openclipart-openoffice.org (0.18+dfsg-9) from debian, we currently have dfsg-800:36
nigelbthe one we have conflicts with openoffice00:36
crimsunnope, just file a bug requesting the sync00:37
nigelbokay :) thanks00:37
crimsunif you're quick, I can approve it before I head out00:37
nigelb2 mins :)00:37
nigelbthere is already a sync request00:39
nigelblooks like it has some build troubles00:39
nigelbbug 52962500:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 529625 in openclipart "Sync openclipart 0.18+dfsg-9 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52962500:39
crimsunfeel free to work on it :-)00:40
nigelbyeah, getting to it00:40
lfaraoneShould a daemon's socket be in /var/run?03:07
nigelbsomeone around to help me figure out build issues?  trying to build the new openclip art from debian03:21
nigelbI keep getting this warning (inkscape:22890): WARNING **: Unimplemented style property SP_PROP_CLIP_RULE: value: evenodd03:21
nigelbalso can someone accept karmic nomination for bug 53336903:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533369 in debootstrap "Fails to debootstrap squeeze chroot due to missing apt-get" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53336903:23
micahgany release members around?05:17
nigelbmicahg: I think ScottK is around05:18
* ScottK is here, but about to go to bed. What's up?05:18
micahgScottK: was wondering if I can get FFe approval for fennec: bug 39421905:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394219 in fennec "[FFe] fennec 1.0 requires xulrunner 1.9.2" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39421905:19
crimsunnigelb: approved05:19
nigelbcrimsun: thank you :)05:20
crimsunyw05:20
ScottKmicahg: Ack'ed.05:25
micahgScottK: thanks :)05:25
micahgScottK: have a good night05:28
ScottKThanks.05:28
wrapsteri wanted to divert a library provided by a pkg libgmp3-dev and use one from a different pkg "sunwcsl". ... So i did this..http://pastie.org/86871306:22
wrapsterim pretty new to packaging and I wrote it in the preinst script.i would like to know if this is correct?06:22
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nigelbis there a reason why the new debootstrap isn't synced to ubuntu?08:17
micahgnigelb: was after sync freeze08:22
nigelbmicahg: worth a sync?08:24
micahgnigelb: idk, depends what changed08:24
nigelbI'm trying to do an SRU and i'm wondering how to get an SRU without the bug being fixed in lucid08:25
nigelbmicahg: whole bunch of stuff http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.22/changelog08:25
micahgnigelb: idk, better to ask someone else08:26
nigelbI'll just wait for monday then08:27
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ddecatoryay for late night packaging...09:04
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michasHi, what is the correct way to handle menu entries? Debian uses the menu packet, but this seems not to be used by default. How do I configure my package to add an menu entry for ubuntu?10:53
gesercreate a .desktop file10:54
persiamichas: You want to do two things: 1) use the menu system anyway, because some desktop environments require that, and 2) add an XDG .desktop file.10:54
nigelbhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#.desktop%20Files might help10:55
michasWhere do I find more information about XDG .desktop files?10:55
michasoh, ok. :)10:56
* abogani waves11:18
abogani As reported in http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi the avr-libc package don't build from source.11:18
abogani I have the simple patch that fix it but I should open a bug on LP about this first? Or a merge request via bzr branch is enough?11:18
aboganiThanks in advance!11:18
persiaabogani: Either way *should* work at this point.11:20
persiaabogani: Actually, you might want to file a bug, but you don't need to put a patch on the bug: you can just link the branch.11:20
* persia thinks that branches not linked to bugs may not show up in the report11:21
persiaabogani: Just to verify, make sure that your issue is represented at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring when you're done.11:21
aboganipersia: Ok I'll fill a bug then. Thanks!11:21
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aburchHi.  Can somebody ack my two sync requests (538004 and 538005).  They already have a freeze exception.13:20
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micahgany u-u-s around?18:09
nhandlermicahg: Need something?18:12
micahgnhandler: a debdiff sponsored :)18:12
nhandlermicahg: Bug # ?18:12
micahgbug 53066018:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 530660 in pidgin-microblog "Replace pidgin-mbpurple with pidgin-microblog (was: package pidgin-microblog (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/purple-2/liboldtwitter.so', which is also in pa..." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53066018:12
nhandlermicahg: Don't forget we are in Feature Freeze18:15
nhandlermicahg: You also do not need to mention changing the maintainer field in the changelog18:15
micahgnhandler: k, and about FF, I figured this is a problem that needs to be fixed18:16
micahgjust a package rename18:16
nhandlermicahg: Yes, but you will want an FFe18:16
micahgnhandler: FFe please?18:17
nhandlermicahg: :) One minute18:18
nhandlermicahg: Also, why is the transitional package Architecture: any ?18:20
* micahg looks18:21
micahgoh, right, that can be i38618:21
micahgnhandler: my first time doing transitional package from scratch18:21
nhandlermicahg: Why not just make it Arch: all ?18:21
micahgwill fix18:21
nhandlerOr was the old package only built for i386 ?18:22
micahgnhandler: no, it was for amd64 and i38618:22
micahgnhandler: is Arch: all i386 only?18:22
pochumicahg: Arch: all is built only once (usually on i386) but can be installed on any architecture18:24
pochuit's arch independent18:24
micahgnhandler: fixed18:29
nhandlermicahg: And pidgin-mbpurple was already removed from lucid ?18:31
micahgnhandler: I wanted to have the transitional package in place before requesting removal18:32
nhandlermicahg: And have you tested that upgrades and fresh installs work with this?18:34
micahgnhandler: no, I suppose I could though18:36
* micahg fires up Lucid VM18:36
nhandlermicahg: Yeah, when requesting FFe's, you usually will want to include logs showing that everything works as expected.18:37
micahgnhandler: I didn't realize it was an FFe...I'll test an install of the old package and then install the new package to simulate an upgrade18:37
micahgnhandler: ugh...I seem to be having issues18:55
lfaraoneWhat exactly are UCSNs? I saw "UCSN-1" recently wrt clamav; I assume they're USNs for things not in main?18:57
nhandlermicahg: What type of issues?18:59
nhandlerlfaraone: Looks like it stands for Ubuntu Community Security Notice19:00
micahgnhandler: it didn't install the files.  I think I have to modify more stuff :( apologies for not following this through all the way first19:00
nhandlermicahg: Hmm...Was this on lucid simply installing your modified pidgin-microblog or on lucid going from pidgin-mbpurple to -microblog ?19:01
micahgnhandler: it didn't install hte files in any package19:01
lfaraonenhandler: when did this get started? (apparently without fanfare :)19:01
* lfaraone has seen no docs mentioning it.19:02
nhandlerlfaraone: No clue. You will probably want to ask someone on the security team19:02
nhandlermicahg: Let me give it a try. Could you push your modified package to a PPA ?19:02
micahgnhandler: already did19:03
nhandlermicahg: Which ppa?19:03
micahgnhandler: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/patch-test/+packages19:03
micahgnhandler: packages are empty19:03
micahgnhandler: I just need to make a .install file for the microblog pacakge19:03
lfaraonenhandler: you wouldn't happen to know anybody in motu-release we could bug about ground control, do you?19:10
nhandlerlfaraone: Do you have a bug?19:11
nhandlerAnd motu-release is now part of ubuntu-release fyi19:11
lfaraonenhandler: bug 486807.19:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 486807 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] groundcontrol" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48680719:11
nhandlerlfaraone: Didn't that get into Debian already?19:12
lfaraonenhandler: correct. We're trying to get it into Lucid.19:12
nhandlerlfaraone: If it cleared NEW, we can sync it. No need for a '[needs-packaging]' bug19:12
lfaraonenhandler: the needs-packaging bug was filed before I suggested we send it through Debian NEW.19:13
lfaraonenhandler: if you prefer, I can retitle it.19:13
nhandlerlfaraone: So change it to a sync request ;)19:13
lfaraonenhandler: done. bug 486807 modified.19:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 486807 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] groundcontrol" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48680719:16
lfaraone(it seems ubottu caches, it should read "Please sync groundcontrol 1.5-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)")19:16
lfaraonenhandler: should the task be set to "confirmed" or "triaged", or is leaving it as it is fine?19:16
nhandlerlfaraone: It should technically be New and unassigned right now19:17
lfaraonenhandler: also done :)19:17
nhandlerlfaraone: Great. Let me look it over19:18
micahgnhandler: still not working, If I add a replaces on the new package, will that make it uninstall the old one first?19:24
nhandlermicahg: You might want to read through http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html19:27
micahgnhandler: thanks, that's what I was jsut looking for19:27
micahgnhandler: I didn't think this was going to be that hard :/19:35
nhandlermicahg: It gets easier ;)19:56
micahgnhandler: yeah, I'm learning a lot...19:56
lfaraonekees: ping.20:00
malevhi there. is the mentors program currently working?20:17
micahgnhandler: seems to work now, I'll attach a new debdifff20:21
crimsunmalev: It should be. Do you have a more precise question about it?20:21
malevcrimsun, no, I'm thinking in asking for a mentorship. that's all. but now I'm reading the packing guide20:22
crimsunmalev: ok, please feel free to follow up20:22
malevcrimsun, thanks!!20:22
malevcrimsun, is there a mail list of the motu team? or it's only for motus?20:23
crimsunmalev: it's used by MOTU, but it isn't private20:23
crimsunubuntu-motu at lists20:23
malevcook!20:24
malev}cool!20:24
malevja20:24
crimsunfeel free to pop into #ubuntu-packaging if you have specific packaging questions20:24
ScottKcrimsun: Since when is this not the place to ask packaging questions for Ubuntu?21:12
crimsunScottK: I'm unaware of this channel being deprecated for such a purpose. Recently #ubuntu-packaging was formed with the presumed intent of answering packaging questions.21:23
ScottKcrimsun: It seems odd to direct people away from here to get packaging questions answered.21:23
crimsunScottK: sure. It would help to clarify what the explicit separation is for #ubuntu-packaging.21:24
ScottKcrimsun: IIRC, it was created because there wasn't a good place for PPA packaging questions.21:25
lifelessubuntu-packaging was created as a non-official-ubuntu packaging forum21:25
lifelesse.g.21:25
lifelessPPA help21:25
lifelessderivative distro help21:25
crimsunso, if the intent is to answer only derivative packaging questions in that channel, we should make that distinction much more explicit in the [that channel's] topic21:26
* ScottK has never been there, so wouldn't know.21:27
lifelesscrimsun: I don't think it excludes non-derivatives21:32
lifelessits just derivative questions here, in #launchpad, and #ubuntu-devel were all starting to pile up, and be confused21:33
crimsunlifeless: I was fairly confused by the "Packaging for Ubuntu" bit in the topic21:35
lifelesscrimsun: hmm persia set it up; I'll defer to him to comment fi the topic is exactly what he meant21:37
keeslfaraone: hello (saw your privmsg, I'll be working on it on monday)23:50
lfaraonekees: thanks. let me know if you need a UCSN description writeup for it :)23:51
keeslfaraone: okay, cool.  we're still working out the details on UCSNs.  We know we want to have it happen, but we haven't finalized it yet.  However, clamav was a good test run for a pretty big change.23:54

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