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| Sarvatt | ok, how about a nonouveau (can anyone think of a better word?) boot option to blacklist the nouveau module so people can actually use vesa or nv without manually blacklisting it? noticing this is a pretty sore spot right now | 17:02 |
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| Sarvatt | oh, blacklist=nouveau directly from the kernel command line looks like a valid option now that I'm digging through initramfs-tools, didn't know that | 17:19 |
| Sarvatt | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/initramfs-tools/working/revision/163 is kind of pointless then if they can just do blacklist=nouveau, need to try that out | 17:36 |
| Sarvatt | i'm thinking it might be handy to have say, failsafex or the old xforcevesa as boot arguements. we could blacklist all KMS drivers in initramfs-tools and have the gdm upstart job pick failsafeX if it matches because its already checking the kernel command line for inhibitors | 17:40 |
| Sarvatt | then we could just extend the kernel command line check in /etc/init/gdm.conf to check for the command and set env XORGCONFIG=/etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa and ship a new stock vesa xorg.conf? | 17:44 |
| Sarvatt | actually we could just make gdm exit1 if it matches, that'd automatically start a failsafe session | 17:46 |
| verbalshadow | what did i miss? booting with Mobility Radeon HD 4200 with KMS now freeze my system and won't boot with out disabling. | 17:53 |
| Sarvatt | verbalshadow: mind filing a bug so we can look at your logs? | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | just ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati and subscribe Sarvatt if you dont mind | 18:15 |
| Sarvatt | and whoa booting straight into failsafe is insanely fast compared to normal booting, menu was up in 11 seconds on this slow hdd netbook | 18:16 |
| verbalshadow | Sarvatt: filing now | 18:22 |
| verbalshadow | ok now i need to file a bug on ubuntu-bug it thinks i don't have an internet connection and can't connect to the crash DB :( | 18:31 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, not having any luck adding the xforcevesa option to initramfs-tools. i added the option to Init and had it set blacklist=drm,i915,nouveau,radeon and quiet=n, and also tried adding a check for xforcevesa to scripts/init-top/blacklist and blacklist those modules explicitly in there | 19:20 |
| Sarvatt | but plymouth seems to be loading drm/i915 and such on its own | 19:21 |
| Sarvatt | changed the gdm upstart job to exit 1 if it sees xforcevesa in /proc/cmdline to load failsafe and that part works but its using fbdev on top of KMS of course because drm and such is loaded for plymouth | 19:22 |
| Sarvatt | looks like i need to either extend plymouth to recognize xforcevesa as well or remove splash from the cmdline if xforcevesa is used | 19:31 |
| Sarvatt | no luck, removing splash doesn't stop i915 from loading. hmm | 20:02 |
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| bjsnider | is superm1 ever in here on weekends? | 20:06 |
| Sarvatt | verbalshadow: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/538097 | 20:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 538097 in launchpad "Apport cannot connect to crash database" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:08 |
| Sarvatt | maybe if you ping him and ask a question he might pop up :) | 20:09 |
| bjsnider | are there any useful dkms logs anywhere? there's one in /var/log but it's no help | 20:21 |
| albert23 | bjsnider: there is a full build log like /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/kernel-2.6.31-20-generic-x86_64/log/make.log | 20:26 |
| bjsnider | if the build didn't happen on that kernel that directory and log do not end up existing | 20:47 |
| bjsnider | all i get here is exit code 6 | 20:50 |
| Sarvatt | anyone really familiar with compiz? i'm almost positive its one of our patches breaking resoluions where one side is the same as the max texture size, 010-disable-child-window-clipping.patch maybe? it's just 1 pixel thats the problem, 2047x1152 works for instance if the max texture size is 2048 | 22:36 |
| RAOF | I used to be a bit familiar with compiz. | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | RAOF: used to ? | 22:41 |
| RAOF | Compiz *has* been around a while :). | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | well, before compiz we had | 22:41 |
| Sarvatt | we should probably adjust our max texture size checks in 060_move_checks_to_compiz.patch to max -1 though because people with 2048x1152 monitors are having all kinds of problems | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | ... what was it called? .... | 22:42 |
| * BUGabundo blanks | 22:42 | |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/428769 | 22:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 428769 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "compiz starts with a blank screen on a 2048x1152 monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:43 |
| Sarvatt | i want to ask those people to try a fedora livecd and see if its different because they dont have most of our compiz patches :D | 22:43 |
| RAOF | Which lucky bugger has a 2048x1152 monitor? :) | 22:43 |
| Sarvatt | lots of mac people | 22:44 |
| RAOF | Aaah. | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 22:49 |
| MarcoPau | Hello, I just put xserver-no-backfill ppa in my sources.list but I don't get anything upgraded out of it. Any hint? Using karmic | 23:39 |
| libv | jcristau: ? | 23:40 |
| MarcoPau | the xorg-server package itself is not available | 23:40 |
| libv | jcristau: how does this affect compatibility over the different kernel versions? | 23:40 |
| libv | (from a separation pov, i like the move though, this drm/libdrm stuff is a right mess) | 23:41 |
| libv | nah, nm my question, the compat issue is just as bad from either side of the change | 23:49 |
| libv | there are only two solutions to this compatibility issue anyway | 23:50 |
| jcristau | meh. whoever tries to make it work with different versions can fix things up | 23:50 |
| libv | yes :) | 23:51 |
| libv | it's an issue between developer and user, and the packager is between a rock and a hard place there | 23:51 |
| libv | unable to satisfy both in the current constellation | 23:53 |
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