[10:48] * persia has about a 14% chance of being awake at that hour, and shares apologies in advance. [18:35] developer meeting in less than 30 minutes [18:35] detrate, JuniperJaxx persia rlameiro TheMuso ^^^ [18:35] agenda - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2010Mar14 [18:59] hello [18:59] meeting time [18:59] who's here for the meeting? [18:59] hello folks [19:00] me [19:01] I'd like to wait about five minutes and see who else shows up if that's okay [19:01] is it to early for stochastic? [19:01] for me its ok [19:01] here's a link to the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2010Mar14 [19:01] here i am :) [19:02] re: stochastic, it should be around 2:00pm for him, but he does keep slightly different hours I believe [19:02] hi quadrispro, glad you joined us [19:02] i will make coffe then [19:02] 5 minutes and i come [19:05] I'm happy being there [19:08] back [19:10] *sigh* not much of a turn out, i'm suggesting we postpone the meeting since we don't have too many people here [19:11] np for me [19:11] ScottL: I wanted to discuss an idea with you [19:11] we _could_ run through the agenda but there wouldn't be many answers for many of the questions [19:11] rlameiro, please, go ahead [19:12] I was thinking in making a python GUI that could help and ease the install software outside ubuntu [19:12] installing non-ubuntu applications? [19:12] something like having people posting the deb repo to a website and the software will add the line to aptlist [19:13] yeap [19:13] there is a lot of software outside universe [19:13] for example [19:13] pd extended [19:13] and others [19:14] the idea is to simplify the process of install of software that didnt got to Universe [19:14] hmm, that could certainly be helpful to a lot of people [19:14] devs or uses could put into the db the software links [19:14] it might even help people to try out new applications who might then suggest we officially package them for inclusion into Ubuntu Studio [19:14] or maybe copy the debs all to one pps to this [19:15] of course it will have warnings telling that it isnt ubuntu certified etc [19:15] ScottL: yeap [19:15] thas the idea [19:15] dont know [19:15] plugins, new releases etc [19:16] maybe it only could get it only on 10.10 [19:16] but anyway its something i could try to hack [19:16] of course if there is a .deb file then they could just download the .deb to their desktop and double click the file too [19:17] ScottL: can I make a ppa and copy debs from other places? [19:17] makin it like a repo [19:17] or it needs to be packaged by me? [19:17] I don't think you can copy .debs to a ppa [19:18] hummm [19:18] well i will find a way [19:19] either adding deb repos or direct links to download [19:19] the software will only use apt-get and wget etc... [19:19] it is possible to create your own personal (and available to others) repository though [19:20] you could copy the .deb files to your personal repository and others could add it to their sources.list [19:20] this is not releated to PPAs by the way [19:20] something like that [19:20] why no? [19:21] quick google search - http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-create-your-own-debian-or-ubuntu-package-repository/ [19:22] creating your own repository is not directly related to PPAs and would not be hosted by Canonical, Launchpad, etc [19:22] yeah, the proplem would be the bandwith... [19:22] BUT, you would have complete control over content and should be able to populate it by copying .debs directly to it, I believe [19:23] yes it seams a good way to go [19:23] oh, and updated (maybe automatically) the packages list [19:23] s/updated/update [19:23] just because you copy the .deb file there doesn't mean everyone knows its there, even if they update their sources [19:24] the packages list tells synaptic (or apt) what packages are available [19:24] if you are good at packaging then you could do like others (like falktx) and build packages in your own PPA [19:25] i a [19:25] i am not a good packager [19:25] i am not a packager at all :D [19:25] but i will tr [19:25] try to learn it [19:26] he's got 177 packages here, and this is just for lucid - https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid [19:26] this is one example of a source this tool could add [19:27] other people's PPAs can be extremely helpful when packaging for inclusion into the archives [19:28] many people just package for personal reasons or for others to use from their PPAs, but not officially [19:28] you can download their source, make sure it followes the packaing guide and submit to REVU [19:28] it could be also the fact tha packaging officially it is not easy [19:29] it's an extra step (or two) that many people don't want to take [19:29] that is very true, i'm still getting my first package through REVU and needed to take a month off to get other things done [19:30] plus I made the mistake to ask Persia to check it, and boy did he check it! [19:30] lol [19:30] just kidding about it being a mistake [19:30] how works the debian and ubuntu sync? [19:30] he's helped me learn metric tonnes about packaging and ubuntu proccesses in general [19:31] sync request - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [19:31] but an simplied overview is... [19:31] make sure their are not ubuntu specific changes made [19:31] if not, then file a sync request from debian [19:32] if not, then it's a merge request and that is a bit more complicated [19:32] scratch that last line [19:32] if their are ubuntu specific changes, then it's a merge request and that is a bit more complicated [19:32] s/their/there [19:33] I see [19:33] well [19:33] I go now to my girlfriend [19:33] cya [19:33] okay, good talking to you again rlameiro [19:33] and thanks for the info ScottL [19:34] very, very glad to be helpful [19:34] quadrispro, I'm probably going to go push my son on the swing [19:35] after I talk to a few devs on IRC about a better time I hope to reschedule the meeting again [19:36] ok [22:19] TheMuso, if we reschedule the -dev meeting, would you like your availability considered? [22:19] i'm hoping to coordinate with persia and stochastic as well [22:58] ScottL_: not particularly, rather swamped atm [23:05] TheMuso, okay, thanks