| wgrant | krisives: (From Debian) RoM; unmainatined, better alternatives libraries; Debian bug #543945 | 02:09 |
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| ubottu | Debian bug 543945 in ftp.debian.org "RM: gtkdialog -- RoM; unmainatined, better alternatives libraries" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/543945 | 02:09 |
| krisives | I made a python script and a launchpad project for it, and I'm going to package it (for Debian/Ubuntu). When I make the source package do I include the debian/* and stuff in the bazaar repository? | 03:06 |
| thumper | wgrant: you know more about packaging than I do | 03:13 |
| thumper | wgrant: can you suggest a common pattern for krisives ? | 03:13 |
| wgrant | krisives: Opinions differ. | 03:14 |
| wgrant | Most distribution packagers prefer that your release tarballs do not contain the debian/ directory, so you should exclude it from your branch. | 03:14 |
| wgrant | For my projects, I have a separate branch which contains the full tree with debian/*, and regularly merge trunk into it. | 03:14 |
| wgrant | That works fairly well. | 03:15 |
| krisives | okay, so I keep the main branch with my code and then have another branch that contains the stuff for the source packaging | 03:15 |
| wgrant | Right. The other branch is a branch from trunk, but with the packaging stuff as well. | 03:17 |
| krisives | just off topic, is the "Installed Size" required in debian/control ? | 03:19 |
| wgrant | krisives: From what did you reach the understanding that such a field belongs in debian/control? | 03:20 |
| krisives | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html | 03:21 |
| krisives | Although it appears dated, it was one of the first results on Google for "Making a debian source package" | 03:22 |
| krisives | It's not in http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html which makes me wonder | 03:23 |
| wgrant | krisives: That's for creating a binary, so it is sick and wrong. | 03:23 |
| persia | krisives: Trust policy : that is a complete list of the fields you need, and indicates whether they are optional or required. | 03:23 |
| wgrant | krisives: Try the Ubuntu packaging guide, or the Debian New Maintainers GUide. | 03:23 |
| krisives | thanks guys :D | 03:24 |
| krisives | I built a source package for an existing project (Rhythmbox) a few days ago, but this is the first time doing it all from scratch | 03:25 |
| krisives | (that package was to remove the indicator-applet for this PPA if anyone cares: https://launchpad.net/~kris-santiance/+archive/oldrb) | 03:26 |
| krisives | that brings up an interesting question as I read this packaging guide and version numbers | 03:30 |
| krisives | my Rhythmbox PPA used the version with a +oldrb for the version, does this mean it will automatically build new versions of RB and apply my changes to them? (My change was just to debian/rules) | 03:31 |
| wgrant | No, it will not automatically rebuild. | 03:32 |
| wgrant | You would have to reupload it. | 03:32 |
| krisives | Its okay I made a mistake with the version number a bit anyhow | 03:34 |
| krisives | (I incremented it slightly and added a +oldrb to it) | 03:34 |
| krisives | do packages ever automatically rebuild on LP ? | 03:34 |
| micahg | krisives: if it's a dependency wait I think it does | 03:35 |
| wgrant | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage has hints on good PPA versioning. | 03:35 |
| wgrant | LP doesn't do automatic rebuilds, but we're currently working on a big project to enable automatic merging and building of package branches, which will allow that sort of thing. | 03:36 |
| krisives | what's XSBC-Original-Maintainer ? | 03:37 |
| * krisives RTFMs (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/FAQ#What does XSBC-Original-Maintainer mean?) | 03:38 | |
| wgrant | A field in which we store the original value of the Maintainer field for packages that we import from Debian. | 03:38 |
| krisives | do I have to include it if it's the same person? | 03:39 |
| krisives | in this case, me | 03:39 |
| wgrant | No. | 03:39 |
| wgrant | Just use Maintainer. | 03:39 |
| krisives | Instead of "Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}" can I just use my list? | 03:41 |
| persia | You can, but it's more reliable to use the substvars for small changes, etc. | 03:48 |
| krisives | for debian/control can I point to /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD ? | 03:50 |
| krisives | or do I have to include the BSD text? | 03:50 |
| persia | krisives: /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD may only be used when the copyright holder is the Regents of the University of California. | 03:50 |
| krisives | persia: I see, because I have to modify it ... duh | 03:51 |
| * krisives discovers the `wtf` package | 03:57 | |
| krisives | rad. | 03:57 |
| krisives | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/PackagingFromScratchHelloDebhelper <-- seems to have most of the answers | 03:58 |
| dickelbeck1 | Hi, I have a question about 2 branch transfers from sourceforge.net | 04:40 |
| dickelbeck1 | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kicad-developers/kicad/doc | 04:40 |
| dickelbeck1 | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kicad-newlib-maintainer/kicad/library | 04:40 |
| dickelbeck1 | They seem to have been mis-understood or neglected. | 04:41 |
| dickelbeck1 | branch transfer requests, that is | 04:41 |
| mwhudson | dickelbeck1: looking | 04:44 |
| mwhudson | dickelbeck1: approved them both, sorry about the delay | 04:47 |
| dickelbeck1 | mwhudson: thank you. currently they are being mirrored. when we are ready, what will I need to do terminate the mirroring from sourceforge in the future? | 04:48 |
| mwhudson | dickelbeck1: you can ask a question, delete the branches or just not bother | 04:48 |
| dickelbeck1 | thank you, I will "ask a question" after we bring the gang over | 04:50 |
| magcius | arrgh | 07:13 |
| magcius | can you not send me emails for every single commit that gets imported? | 07:13 |
| wgrant | magcius: You can choose the notification level by editing your subscription to the branch. | 07:14 |
| lifeless | and there is a bug open | 07:18 |
| lifeless | about imports specifically | 07:18 |
| A4Tech | HI all. I have a problem with the attempt to re-compile the package on Launchpad. File file.tar.gz already exists in myppa, but uploaded version has different contents. I looked here https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors there written about this error, but did not understand how to do so would have happened | 08:59 |
| geser | sh: epstopdf: not found | 09:01 |
| wgrant | A4Tech: What is unclear about the text of the error message? | 09:03 |
| wgrant | A different file with the same name is already in your PPA. | 09:03 |
| A4Tech | wgrant: I understood very well that for the error. But now tell me I have to adm64 not build. I want to make rebild, and I wrote it. What to do? When I'm doing again debuild-S signatures to the archives of others, and I am old I can not impute to him | 09:06 |
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| TeTeT | I want to change the expiration date of a team member of canonical-training, but it oopses when I edit the member: | 10:39 |
| TeTeT | https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-training/+member/marianna-raffaele | 10:39 |
| intellectronica | TeTeT: :( can you please file a bug and include the oops id? i'll have a look immediately | 10:40 |
| TeTeT | intellectronica: it doesn't even give me an oops id, just 'return to the launchpad front page' | 10:41 |
| intellectronica | TeTeT: i'm not sure i understand what you mean by OOPS then. what does the page you get after submitting say? | 10:42 |
| wgrant | That's probably the isRedirectInhibited OOPS that sprung up on edge a couple of days ago. | 10:42 |
| wgrant | It affects anything that isn't a LaunchpadView, I believe. | 10:43 |
| wgrant | And breaks the OOPS view horribly. | 10:43 |
| wgrant | Check the source for the OOPS ID. | 10:43 |
| wgrant | If it continues to happen, disable the edge redirect and try on production. | 10:43 |
| TeTeT | intellectronica: I've filed a bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/539006 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539006 in launchpad "Cannot edit team member expiration status" [Undecided,New] | 10:44 |
| TeTeT | intellectronica + wgrant : oops id in page source is OOPS-1535EB464 | 10:45 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1535EB464 | 10:45 |
| intellectronica | TeTeT: so wgrant is right. the good news is that you can disable redirection and complete this on the normal production servers. | 10:46 |
| intellectronica | i don't know what's the status of a fix for this problem, but i'll chase it | 10:46 |
| wgrant | It's a Foundations problem, so probably waiting for USians. | 10:46 |
| wgrant | Although the fix may be wildly cross-team, so who knows. | 10:47 |
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| TeTeT | intellectronica: thanks, disabling edge worked fine | 10:52 |
| intellectronica | cool | 10:53 |
| mwhudson | r10489 ? | 10:56 |
| mwhudson | i think it must have been | 10:57 |
| wgrant | Yeah, that. | 10:57 |
| wgrant | It's well known by Foundations. | 10:57 |
| mwhudson | ah ok | 10:57 |
| bigjools | wgrant: that problem doesn't happen for some renderings of the same page though | 11:04 |
| wgrant | bigjools: It seems to always for me. | 11:04 |
| wgrant | The corruptness of the OOPS depends on the browser, though. | 11:04 |
| bigjools | wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit | 11:04 |
| bigjools | works fine | 11:04 |
| bigjools | but most other packages don't | 11:05 |
| wgrant | I don't recall seeing a DSP index OOPSing. | 11:05 |
| wgrant | DASBP does, though. | 11:06 |
| wgrant | I've not seen it not. | 11:06 |
| bigjools | wgrant: lost od DSP indexes are oopsing with the same fail | 11:23 |
| bigjools | erm | 11:23 |
| bigjools | "lots of" | 11:23 |
| bigjools | compare with https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/network-manager | 11:23 |
| wgrant | bigjools: That looks like an SP to me. | 11:24 |
| bigjools | meh | 11:24 |
| persia | What's the diffeence between a DSP and an SP? | 11:24 |
| * bigjools heads of for more caffeine | 11:24 | |
| wgrant | An SP is really a DSSP. | 11:24 |
| wgrant | But nobody is crazy enough to rename it. | 11:25 |
| persia | It's the acronym that's losing me. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | DSP => DistributionSourcePackage | 11:25 |
| persia | Ah, and DistributionSeriesSourcePackage. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | SP => SourcePackage, but it should really be DistroSeriesSourcePackage. | 11:25 |
| A4Tech | Another question, why launchpad collects "empty" package? It includes only there chagelog archive | 11:57 |
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| persia | A4Tech: Do you have an example? | 12:02 |
| A4Tech | persia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395578/ rules https://launchpad.net/~itmages/+archive/software/+files/itmages-nautilus-extension_0.34-2_lpia.deb package | 12:03 |
| persia | Aha. Does this work in local package construction? | 12:05 |
| A4Tech | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40953165/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.itmages-nautilus-extension_0.34-2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz дщп | 12:05 |
| A4Tech | log* | 12:05 |
| A4Tech | persia: On the local machine is the same ... | 12:07 |
| persia | A4Tech: If you can reproduce on a local machine, it's surely not an issue with launchpad. | 12:08 |
| persia | My guess would be that DEB_DESTDIR isn't defined in the way you think, but I might be wrong. | 12:09 |
| A4Tech | Yes, I now understand. Maybe you know the cause of the problem why the package is not going to? | 12:09 |
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| crimsun | would someone please look into why neither lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu nor lp:~crimsun/pulseaudio/ubuntu will upgrade from pack repo format 1 to 2a? | 13:38 |
| crimsun | (I've tried "Upgrade this branch") | 13:39 |
| larrylarry | Hi, I have problems with the launchpad website. | 13:44 |
| larrylarry | Lately I get "Unexpected form data: Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request." when I try to download the translations. This message comes even on logout. Anyone around who knows what this is about? | 13:44 |
| danilos | larrylarry, do you get any OOPS mention on that page? (that would help us look into the problem) | 13:44 |
| danilos | crimsun, you should probably file a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code if you can't get an answer here from someone like abentley or rockstar | 13:46 |
| crimsun | danilos: sure thing, thanks | 13:46 |
| abentley | crimsun, you are using the upgrade button and it's not working? | 13:47 |
| larrylarry | danilos: I opened the html source but there seems to be no more info... | 13:47 |
| jml | danilos, abentley, interestingly, the page timed out for me when I tried to load it | 13:47 |
| jml | (for lp:~crimsun/pulseaudio/ubuntu ) | 13:47 |
| crimsun | abentley: correct for both | 13:48 |
| danilos | larrylarry, what URL are you at? can you screenshot the page and post it somewhere? | 13:49 |
| abentley | crimsun, it's probably related to the other issues rockstar's investigating, but I'll mention those two to him specifically. | 13:49 |
| crimsun | abentley: cheers | 13:51 |
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| larrylarry | danilos: I just tried another browser (firefox) and it works! Normally I'm using Opera (v. 10.10) and it used to work. | 13:56 |
| danilos | larrylarry, please file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+filebug and we'll fix it when we find time to do so :) you are also welcome to look into fixing it yourself if you want, since LP is open source :) | 13:59 |
| larrylarry | danilos: Thanks for answering so fast, I'll do that. | 14:01 |
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| danilos | larrylarry, you are welcome | 14:04 |
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| dark_soul | so if you want someone else to push a branch to your project, you'd have to get their public key and import it right? | 15:58 |
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| persia | dark_soul: No. | 16:06 |
| persia | dark_soul: For someone to push to a branch, they have to be the owner of the branch, either directly or through team membership. Launchpad handles all the ssh key details. | 16:07 |
| dark_soul | persia: oh..so how does callboration of a project work then? | 16:08 |
| persia | dark_soul: Lots of different models. | 16:09 |
| persia | Two common ones are i) Several people belong to a team, and commonly push to a team branch, ii) lots of users have branches for a project, and one of them also maintains a trunk, merging changes from all the other branches as requested. | 16:10 |
| persia | For larger projects, this sometimes gets extended to having a team-managed trunk with a moderate set of reviewers pushing in merge request fom all developers. | 16:10 |
| dark_soul | i see! | 16:11 |
| dark_soul | persia: thanks | 16:11 |
| persia | But since anyone can branch off any branch in launchpad, or push their own branches to any project, the main issues are policy, rather than ability to do things. | 16:11 |
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| gringochapin | Hi all. Trying to do some translating in LaunchPad. Does anyone know how I can see a list of translations for a specific language sorted by number untranslated? | 16:49 |
| cnd | I'm trying to publish a new bzr branch to lp, but it's failing: | 16:50 |
| cnd | cndougla@cndougla-ubuntu:~/Canonical/pm-utils-powersave-policy$ bzr push lp:~chasedouglas/lucid/pm-utils-powersave-policy | 16:50 |
| cnd | Using default stacking branch /~lucid-developers/lucid/main at lp-66548560:///~chasedouglas/lucid | 16:50 |
| cnd | bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('lp-66548560:///~lucid-developers/lucid/main/.bzr/repository') | 16:50 |
| cnd | is not compatible with | 16:50 |
| cnd | CHKInventoryRepository('lp-66548560:///~chasedouglas/lucid/pm-utils-powersave-policy/.bzr/repository') | 16:50 |
| cnd | different rich-root support | 16:50 |
| cnd | anyone know what that means? | 16:50 |
| cnd | oh wait, I guess it did push | 16:52 |
| cnd | the error was secondary I gues | 16:52 |
| cnd | s | 16:52 |
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| krisives | its interesting how many ppl on IRC never eat! :p | 16:57 |
| Some_Person | Can I transfer my key thingy from my karmic installation to my lucid installation? | 16:59 |
| rockstar | crimsun, hello sir. | 17:00 |
| krisives | Some_Person: You mean your registered launchpad SSH keys? | 17:01 |
| geser | Some_Person: "key thingy"? | 17:01 |
| Some_Person | My "OpenPGP key" | 17:03 |
| geser | sure, copy ~/.gnupg | 17:04 |
| krisives | Some_Person: Yeah I think you can using the "Password and Encrpytion" tool in Ubuntu (Accessories menu) | 17:04 |
| krisives | geser: Can he use the import/export in that tool as well? | 17:04 |
| geser | krisives: yes, if Some_Person exports both the public and secret key and reimports both on the other installation | 17:04 |
| Some_Person | Copying .gnupg is more convienent at the moment | 17:05 |
| Some_Person | thanks | 17:06 |
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| crimsun | rockstar: hello | 17:24 |
| rockstar | crimsun, so I hear you're having trouble upgrading branches. | 17:25 |
| crimsun | rockstar: correct. The "Upgrade this branch" choice on lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu and lp:~crimsun/pulseaudio/ubuntu doesn't seem to finish successfully. I can 'bzr upgrade' locally (Lucid), but that doesn't address pushes. | 17:26 |
| rockstar | crimsun, what do you mean "doesn't seem to finish successfully" | 17:27 |
| crimsun | rockstar: the notification "An upgrade of this branch is in progress." appears, but the pack repo format is still reported as 1 after some time (an hour, a couple days, etc.) | 17:29 |
| crimsun | rockstar: I just tried with lp:~crimsun/pulseaudio/ubuntu if that will assist in troubleshooting | 17:29 |
| rockstar | crimsun, does the notification go away? | 17:29 |
| rockstar | crimsun, if lp:~crimsun/pulseaudio/ubuntu is stacked, it probably won't help. | 17:30 |
| crimsun | rockstar: the notification disappears the next time I reload the page, which tends to be an hour or a day afterward | 17:30 |
| rockstar | crimsun, okay. So that means I've probably captured the problems that you're having in our oopses. | 17:31 |
| rockstar | crimsun, so, you can do bzr upgrade lp:... and it'll upgrade the pushed branch. | 17:31 |
| crimsun | rockstar: I receive file exists errors. /srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/00/1b/e6/backup.bzr and /srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/00/37/96/backup.bzr , respectively | 17:34 |
| rockstar | crimsun, yeah, that's the issue I'm working on now. | 17:35 |
| rockstar | crimsun, great, thanks. | 17:35 |
| crimsun | rockstar: cheers | 17:35 |
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| Aquina | How can I change my launchpad account password? | 18:23 |
| zyga | Aquina: does your account have a valid email address? | 18:26 |
| Aquina | Yes ist has. | 18:27 |
| Aquina | I can set an SSH key, modify my timezone and other stuff but not change my password? Who the hell designed that? | 18:29 |
| salgado | Aquina, Launchpad is now an OpenID consumer | 18:29 |
| salgado | Aquina, the account details are now changed on login.launchpad.net | 18:30 |
| Aquina | Thanks! I strongly recommen to LP team to change this and make it more userfriendly since this procedure is not obvious. | 18:34 |
| salgado | Aquina, care to file a that as a bug against the launchpad project? | 18:39 |
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| Aquina | "Aquina, care to file a that as a bug against the launchpad project?" What does that mean? | 18:48 |
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| salgado | Aquina, reporting it as a problem on https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug so that someone is assigned to fix it and we keep track of the progress there | 19:04 |
| Aquina | alright im' gonna file a report later. | 19:04 |
| Aquina | :-) | 19:04 |
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| ranjan | hello | 19:14 |
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| sfb | intellectronica: Hello | 19:22 |
| bdmurray | intellectronica: is the api on production working? | 19:57 |
| blueyed | can you easily switch apport to using edge? | 20:08 |
| thekorn | blueyed, I think apport is always using edge | 20:19 |
| thekorn | but you can switch over to staging if you want to test something | 20:20 |
| blueyed | thekorn: it's not using edge.. AFAIK the 500 internal server error happens on production, but not edge. | 20:20 |
| blueyed | or is edge=production and staging!=production? | 20:21 |
| blueyed | staging=dogfood, isn't it? I don't want to submit my reports there. | 20:21 |
| thekorn | no, staging != dogfood, but both are testing/demo instances | 20:23 |
| krisives | Should I refer to my app icon in my python script directly as /usr/share/pixmaps/gimgur.png or with some kind of variable? | 20:26 |
| geser | krisives: for your .desktop file? Just Icon=gimgur. That way it stays theme-able | 20:39 |
| krisives | geser: I mean when I do window.set_icon_from_file() in my Python | 20:40 |
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| mathiaz | intellectronica: hi! | 21:16 |
| mathiaz | intellectronica: could you setup the default bzr branch for the openldap project to be: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openldap/main-src? | 21:16 |
| mathiaz | intellectronica: the goal is that bzr co lp:openldap gets you https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openldap/main-src? | 21:17 |
| henninge | rockstar, mwhudson: can either of you help mathiaz? | 21:32 |
| mwhudson | sure | 21:32 |
| mwhudson | henninge: you can too though :-) | 21:32 |
| henninge | mwhudson: sorry, am about to go to sleep an did not read properly ... ;-) | 21:32 |
| mwhudson | fair enough | 21:33 |
| mwhudson | mathiaz: done | 21:33 |
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| henninge | g'night | 21:33 |
| mathiaz | mwhudson: great - thanks! | 21:38 |
| dark_soul | a silly question..but when you do bzr help (i dont see "push" listed) is there a reason why? | 21:45 |
| dark_soul | how do you make your branch private? ..Experimental status? | 21:52 |
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| bdrung | jelmer_: can you transfer the ownership of lp:~vcs-imports/gnome-colors/trunk to gnome-colors-packagers? | 21:54 |
| mwhudson | bdrung: jelmer_ probably can't but i can | 21:56 |
| bdrung | mwhudson: he created the branch, but i will take your help :) | 21:56 |
| mwhudson | bdrung: i did it anyway :-) | 21:57 |
| bdrung | mwhudson: thanks | 21:58 |
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| mwhudson | i just assigned a bug to a milestone so that i could click the link to the milestone to find the bug number i wanted to dupe the bug as | 23:14 |
| mwhudson | this seems a bit tortuous | 23:14 |
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