[01:02] I'm having an issue whereby when I try to do a preseeded install, it works just fine if I want to do a very stripped down version of Ubuntu for clustered servers, but if I want to do the opposite for a development desktop installation, I can't seem to get it to work, providing me with a gui desktop and what-not [01:02] I've tried using tasksel/first multiple standard,ubuntu-desktop, and it seems to do nothing...anyone have any ideas? [01:03] nigelb: O.K. i'm here [01:03] marine1: okay, so where did you download this package from? [01:03] Yeah, you can do a real stripped out version [01:03] marine1: Try with a lowercase w [01:03] dy [01:03] dlynes: ping [01:03] stlsaint, ? [01:04] dlynes: what exactly are you wanting for your server? [01:04] stlsaint, the server install is working fine [01:04] stlsaint, it's the desktop install that's not [01:04] nigelb: E: Couldn't find package webilder [01:04] marine1: thats prolly spelled wrong [01:04] dlynes: whats wrong with the desktop? [01:05] stlsaint, phillw if it helps, I could provide my preseed configuration file and my kernel append line [01:05] robert@robert-desktop:~$ whereis webilder [01:05] <marine1> webilder: /usr/share/webilder [01:05] nigelb: that is the exact spelling of this app [01:05] stlsaint, It's not even installing X11, much less gnome [01:05] dlynes: did you install from alt.cd? [01:05] stlsaint, and even on the cluster install, it still insists on prompting me for a hostname, even though I've done the documented method of getting rid of it [01:05] stlsaint, alt.cd? [01:06] nigelb: Same message [01:06] dlynes: you want to cluster multiple desktops? [01:06] marine1: apt-cache policy webilder [01:06] marine1: where did you install it from? [01:06] stlsaint, no....forget I even mentioned clustering [01:06] nigelb: W: Unable to locate package webilder [01:06] marine1: Just because that is the name you see doesn't mean it is the package name. If you installed it from a .deb, what was the .deb called [01:07] I want to automate creation of developer workstations [01:07] it was tar.gz file [01:07] dlynes: oh...why not just use remasters [01:07] remasters? [01:07] marine1: it was not a deb file? [01:07] marine1: if it was not a deb file, it is not possible to remove with apt-get, you have manually remove it [01:08] marine1: You can probably go into the directory where you did 'make install' and do 'make remove' [01:08] nigelb: here is the file: Webilder-0.6.5.tar.gz. [01:08] stlsaint, what's remasters? [01:08] marine1: as nhandler says, go manually to the directory you did make install and remove the package [01:08] stlsaint, and does it allow me to do pxe installs? [01:09] nigelb: Thru nautilus [01:09] nigelb: would that work [01:09] marine1: you can go through terminal if it was not done in /home [01:09] dlynes: remastersys allows you to custom make a install of ubuntu [01:10] dlynes: you put them on cd or iso images or on server maybe in your case [01:10] marine1: that way you can use 'sudo rm -R webilder' in the folder that this is located in [01:10] nigelb: alright let me try that [01:11] dlynes: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/remastersystool.html [01:12] nigelb: so the command should look like this sudo rm -R webilder /usr/share/webider [01:12] marine1: I'm not sure. It depends on where you did the make install, but most probably, yes [01:17] nigelb: it looks like it is gone, how do I make sure all of the dependencies are removed to?? [01:17] stlsaint, does it format the drive on the target system the same as the source system? [01:18] marine1: you have to manually find them and remove them [01:18] nigelb: most of the dependencies were loaded thru the terminal??? [01:18] nigelb: how do i find those??? [01:19] stlsaint: ^ thoughts (I dont do compile from source anymore) [01:19] dlynes: i would think so...it installs your customized iso [01:19] marine1: you have to purge something to remove [01:19] stlsaint, ok, so it would need to be installed from an ISO every time? I couldn't do a PXE install of it? [01:20] dlynes: i would assume you could do a pxe install if setup correctly [01:20] marine1: purge the package [01:20] nigelb: what does the command look like sudo apt-get purge webilder [01:20] marine1: sudo aptitude purge webilder [01:20] stlsaint: even with installed from source? [01:20] nigelb: roger that!! [01:20] stlsaint, ok, thanks...I'm guessing you've never used preseeding, though? [01:21] dlynes: nope sorry, cant say i have unless its used by another term [01:21] stlsaint, it's alternative to using kickstart files [01:21] nigelb: yes...even compiling still gets installed the same...just from source [01:21] stlsaint, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/powerpc/preseed-using.html [01:22] stlsaint: ah, okay. I stopped doing the make install thing for like months [01:22] nigelb: ALright looks like no packages will be installed removed [01:22] marine1: so probably everything is removed [01:22] nigelb: thanks [01:23] dlynes: yea like i said its referred by another term...thats basically imaging [01:24] dlynes: i have done that process many times just not with linux [01:24] stlsaint, ah...so would there be a reason why setting 'tasksel/first multiple standard, ubuntu-desktop' wouldn't be working? [01:24] stlsaint, ah...ok... [01:25] dlynes: have you tried installing ubuntu desktop without using tasksel [01:26] stlsaint, you mean using a manual install? [01:27] stlsaint, yes, several times [01:27] dlynes: what error are you getting? [01:27] nigelb: alright bro [01:27] stlsaint, not getting any errors...if I was, it'd be easier to figure out [01:28] marine1: you're welcome :) [01:28] stlsaint, just not getting it to install gnome...every single time after an install, i'm left with a cli login, and X11 isn't even installed, much less a window manager [01:28] dlynes: what system is this on? server or desktop and how did you install ubuntu? [01:29] It's just on the basic PXE boot install of ubuntu 9.04, and I'm installing via pxe boot [01:30] dlynes: where from? [01:33] dlynes: are you hosting the pxe server inwhich you install from? [01:33] stlsaint, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [01:33] stlsaint, yes, i am [01:34] stlsaint, and I'm running a DNS server and apache server to point the installer at my locally mirrored copy of the distribution packages [01:35] dlynes: are you sure your netinstall comes with a desktop environment [01:36] stlsaint, it doesn't come with anything...that's all selected during install, and then it downloads and installs the appropriate packages [01:42] stlsaint, i've used the same method to create my master nodes for my clusters numerous times, and it works fine for them...just not for my new project, to create development workstations [01:42] dlynes: i would say to ensure that the netinstall has the ubuntu-desktop installedd (better yet fluxbox) then remake distro and re-pxe [01:43] stlsaint, yeah...I've specified 'standard, ubuntu-desktop' for the tasksel/first [01:43] stlsaint, I've also tried 'standard, desktop' [01:44] stlsaint, neither works [01:44] stlsaint, and fwiw, I need gnome...our development environment has some dependencies on it === jgoguen|away is now known as jgoguen [01:47] dlynes: i thought it was: gnome-desktop-environment [01:50] thats the the meta package needed for gnome desktop ^^ [02:02] stlsaint, yeah...that's a metapackage, which is specified with tasksel/include, not tasksel/first [02:03] stlsaint, tasksel/first is a metapackage for which type of install you wish to do === ZachK__ is now known as ZachK_ [02:23] erm, hey, I have a problem with firefox, whenever I sent a message on a high-language page, I get a .php file that I have to deal with, any ideas why this happens? [02:34] !ping [02:34] darn [02:34] !help [02:34] ... [02:34] someone answer this damn thing [02:34] "I have a problem with firefox, whenever I sent a message on a high-language page, I get a .php file that I have to deal with, any ideas why this happens?" [02:40] steelsteve: sorry fella... [02:40] * steelsteve sigh [02:40] if no one knows the answer they wont respond [02:40] how do I copy an entire directory to another location? [02:40] depends on the direvtory [02:41] What do you think would be the most common way to do it? [02:42] terminal [02:42] cd to directory [02:42] yeah, I'm at the command line [02:43] ALrigh, I'm htere [02:44] whoops, go up one [02:44] then cp the directory folder [02:44] to where you want [02:45] so basically cp /(dir name) /(destination folder) [02:45] right stlsaint? [02:50] Oh, I figured it out [02:51] cp -rf /old/directory/* /new/directory/ [02:51] was I right? [02:51] ok [02:51] did i help at all? [02:51] no lol. sorry [02:51] ... [02:51] * steelsteve fail [02:52] lol, it's not your fault. I'm a HUGE noob, so I needed it spelled out with a lot more detail [03:37] ghostofmybrain_, actually cp -Rf [03:37] ghostofmybrain_, oh...nvm...they've made '-r' work now, too...on older version of cp however, '-r' won't work [03:43] what version of cp doesnt have -r [03:43] ? [03:43] how do I search for a file in a directory [03:44] find |grep or locate or slocate [03:44] i usually use the first one though the second or third are shorter [03:44] and i'm sure theres better ways to do it [03:45] Oh yeah, thanks [04:24] phillw: are you around? [04:25] sup ghostofmybrain_ [04:25] phillw linked me to an article about security running a linux server, and I closed my browser and my chat window before I could bookmark it [04:26] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046738 [04:27] that one? [04:27] its the first link in my log from him [04:27] yep, that's the one. thanks [04:57] sup celthunder [04:57] stlsaint, man where you been [04:57] whats new? [04:58] celthunder: meh, here and there [04:58] just bought a motorcycle [04:58] 2003 YZF-R1 [04:59] nice [04:59] heck yea [04:59] mint condition too...other than that i been busy with school [04:59] i'm not a car/motorcycle kinda guy but :) how's it run? [04:59] very nice =) [04:59] sup with you lately? [05:00] school...nm else really... [05:00] work [05:00] did my taxes last night apparently i owe 900$ [05:00] fucking bastards robbing me thats 2 weeks of pay...down the drain [05:00] !language [05:00] Bah, dammit, where did VoteBot go. [05:00] !english though i know a little latin if you prefer that [05:01] stlsaint, any new projects ? [05:01] Don't swear, though. [05:20] celthunder: meh, just more server testing stuff [05:20] bots and what not [05:21] ah [05:21] alwayse good [05:24] yep yep [05:32] nite folks === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [13:30] Just wondering. Do laptops give different battery life on Windows and Linux? [13:58] Welcome back ck [14:02] heya Silver_Fox_ [14:07] Hello nigelb [14:07] Silver_Fox_: I'm truly sad to see you go :( [14:07] I am going? [14:07] yeah from council nomination [14:07] I am not. [14:08] you said you're withdrawing your nomination [14:09] Yes I have, I am not sorry either. [14:09] Silver_Fox_: I truly wanted to see either you or elfy there [14:10] elfy left the team and you've withdrawn your nomination :( [14:11] My withdrawal is best for the team [14:14] :( === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [16:30] is there some way I can modify the "dir" command to only show me files in a directory with a certain file extension? [16:31] dir *.whatever [16:32] cool tahnks [16:37] hi team [16:37] I'd some help setting up symlinks, if anyone is willing to help (: [16:37] *I'd need [16:37] ask. [16:39] I have a website, in apach conf it is setup under my /home. This folder would need to be accessed by another user on the server. I tried symlinking this folder to his home, but when he tries to access the folder he gets the error "Too many levels of symbolic links". Is there another approach to this problem? [16:39] also this folder would need have read/write access for his username and for mine too [16:39] hmmmm [16:40] thats a little screwy looking [16:40] does the folder have to live in your ~/ [16:40] nope, i just put it there, got used to that [16:41] might be easier just to put the folder in [16:41] /var/www/whateverfolderhere [16:41] but thats just me [16:41] symlinking directories gets a little touchy [16:41] sure, but then what's next? How can he access the folder through the FTP ? [16:42] youll have to actually set ftp up [16:42] to be able to do that [16:42] I asume you have ftp setup, or no? [16:42] yes, proftpd [16:43] so i'll need to look at the proftpd settings? [16:43] read over this guide -- http://gwos.org/udsf/doku.php/network:ftp:proftpd [16:43] it may give some insight [16:43] it was written by forum mod Frodon [16:43] so Its trustworthy [16:45] okay, thank you very much compiledkernel (: [16:45] aye Akos [17:06] anyone have intimate knowledge of NFS mounts? [17:07] Sure FisherQueen, what you trying to accomplish [17:08] Im trying to basically use a remote NFS mount for to store /var/mail on an IMAP server , remote to a clustered filesystem. Do you know if thats possible? Its a little more complicated than my small girl mind can handle. [17:09] anyone want to stab at this before I do? [17:10] Ok. Here we go. [17:11] FisherQueen: I dont think the need for a clustered filesystem is all that necessary to store /var/mail. I mean unless you anticipate to store a massive amount of email, perhaps then, how many users are we talking? [17:12] compiledkernel: 120 users, roughly speaking. The only admin here is me and one other, and he does aboslutely nothing. Funny that the jr admin (whos a girl) does more than the senior admin. [17:15] Hrmmmm...yeah. I dont think clustering is really going to do much for you in the way of storage (assuming thats your intent). I mean youd do just as well to raid and store /var/mail there. Clustering might improve your performance some, but in reality , speically for a low level core service like imapd, I dont think perf increase will do all that much. [17:15] FisherQueen: And gender has nothing to do with a persons ability to perform. [17:18] Sure it does. Girls are smarter than guys. Always have been. Always will be. And the reality as you put it, might be storage or whatever. but really Im looking for the performance hike that I can get out of clustering to store the data. Do you have a recommended clustering solution that can be used in ubuntu/debian? [17:18] lol [17:21] FisherQueen: go pay IBM (for whom I work) for a license for GPFS. They will make you buy their hardware (same as Ora would do with OCFS). the Free solutions arent really all that effective. Ive heard of peopel running GFS on debian/ubuntu, but the risks vs the rewards isnt enough to do it. Id advise against it. [17:22] yeah thanks or whatever. you obvously dont know much of anything, that I cant find on google. Ill say I dont appreciate your help. Because I really dont. [17:23] FisherQueen: you should be appreicative of others help. Not a mouthy whiny little wince. [17:29] compiledkernel: youd actually have to help me before I would be appreciate. No worries dungpile. Ill get it from somewhere else. [17:31] * DarkwingDuck rasies an eyebrow [17:31] I would remind FisherQueen that we are volunteers. Being rude will not help you fox your problem [17:32] whtver.....the channel is useless for advanced topics obviously. if compiled is the best you can give me, I shouldnt have come in here. [17:33] Then leave [17:34] why, you is obviously bothered by my presence here. I think Ill hang around just to be annoying. :) ^_^ [17:34] * DarkwingDuck grins [17:34] *sigh [17:35] Bet Fisher didn't see that coming [17:35] lol [17:35] look, if your going to be an arrogant one. At least do it with some taste. I hate admins with an attitude about them. [17:35] :) [17:36] What was your first clue Silver_Fox_ ? [17:36] Fisher or Queen ? [17:36] lol [17:36] Heh [17:38] that wasnt all that very nice. [17:38] you needed a clue Silver_Fox_? [17:41] so anyone else want to take a stab at my nfs question [17:41] * DarkwingDuck raises an eyebrow [17:41] Not with the way you act... No [17:42] or am I going to assume all you testosterone types are just as stupid as compiled? [17:42] See, that's why we dont want to help you [17:43] lol....the way you talk FisherQueen, I have to wonder if you have an overabundance of testosterone in your body. [17:44] the guy in the oracle channel was a lot nicer. If I dated guys, Id probably go out with him or something. Not like you jerkoffs. [17:44] FisherQueen: Please, this is a channel that is ment to be helpful. Your attitude is not very... Ubuntu. [17:45] FQ, Id be headin over to the debian-women channel, they are probably alot more atuned to your type of communication than we are. [17:45] FisherQueen: If you have a question ask it. If no one can help you then please, be polite and move on. [17:45] CK... your not helping... [17:46] Leave this channel FisherQueen [17:46] DarkwingDuck: spoken like a typical male...... [17:46] FisherQueen: how is that? [17:46] All dudes talk with two heads. [17:47] laterz shimps [17:47] well that was...uh...interesting. [17:47] who the fark? === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [17:48] I admire females in the networking field, but uh really....that one was a tad...uh....out of control? or is it just me? [17:49] I don't think it was a female/male thing... I'll blame speed and coffee [17:49] if my suggestions to that one were grossly negligent, someone tell me please. === ikt_ is now known as ikt [17:51] I came in at the tail end [18:12] Goodbye [19:18] evening [19:18] and hi thecliff [19:19] Hi elfy [19:19] hey elfy [19:19] how's things thecliff - did you ever find yourself someone to look after you in the BT? [19:20] hi pedro3005 [19:20] I did but I haven't had a chance to meet up with them in IRC yet. Long week. [19:20] cool - who is it? [19:20] cprofitt [19:21] oh good :) [19:21] he's cool [19:21] :) [19:26] welcome Hellow [19:26] welcome thecliff lol [19:27] Hi bodhi_zazen [19:36] did we ever recover from FisherQ [19:36] or whatever? [19:37] compiledkernel: I did - I lolled a bit then carried on with life, but I never saw the other bits - stillw aiting for logs to catch up to read up :) [20:20] No, the queen is dead [20:21] long live the king [21:30] morning all [21:30] hello Vantrax [21:30] lo [22:00] bodhi_zazen Wait, is the Queen really dead? === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk [22:07] No , the Queen will be back [22:10] Hey bodhi_zazen got a sec to open a chat w/ me? [22:33] Anybody here need help? [22:37] ZachK_: Mental help? :P [22:37] DarkwingDuck: I might be able to help [22:37] ZachK_, oh good [22:38] ZachK_, I have these recurring dreams where I try to scream but have no voice.. also one time my teeth fell out [22:38] what does it mean? [22:38] To much beer [22:38] ZachK_, I don't drink beer [22:39] Ok well....hmmm... [23:16] ok, now, for a true dumb question... [23:16] I cant seem to get my avatar to work on the forums [23:16] Phrea: Meaning? [23:16] do you need some type of minimum amount of posts before you can use an avatar? [23:17] meaning, I'd like to be able to use one [23:17] I understand that a .gif is not an option, so I converted it to .jpg [23:17] I still dont see it [23:17] No Phrea you do not need a minimum amount.... [23:17] I gathered as much, but I still am not able to add one.. :? [23:18] which is weird, I've been running vB myself since it excisted, so I know the software [23:18] Are you saving the settings before exiting the page on if? [23:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8973063&postcount=3 <-- no avatar to be seen [23:18] yes, of course [23:18] and I made sure it was a .jpg and not a .gif [23:19] and the size is 90x90 and only 6KB [23:19] Hmm.... [23:19] weird eh? [23:19] Let me look at my page [23:19] it's not all that important tho :) [23:20] Back in a sec...(on iPod which means I gotta close app) [23:20] I just thought to ask here iso on the forums :) [23:20] oh ah [23:20] k [23:20] dont do it if it's too much trouble [23:20] Phrea: Well let's try and figure out why this isn't working as it should work... [23:20] :) [23:20] I think I've tried it all... [23:21] no .gif, make sure it's 100x100 or under, not more than 64KB, etc [23:21] Well hmm...like I said...back in a flash [23:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=893302 there it does show up [23:22] oh [23:22] man, too much trouble... [23:22] :\ [23:23] he shouldnt have... [23:28] Hmm [23:28] Phrea: ? [23:28] yes [23:28] you shouldnt have gone through all that trouble man [23:28] :) [23:29] Phrea: No trouble....so...send me the page you're trying to set your avatar with...the settings page I mean [23:29] I have installed a todo list programm from Ubuntucenter and then uninstaled it but if I click date and time...i get also an entry "task" with the todo list items I created ...how do i delete that? [23:30] it's the same page for everybody [23:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/profile.php?do=editprofilepic [23:30] which is the correct place to change ones avatar [23:34] Ah Phrea you want this page http://ubuntuforums.org/profile.php?do=editavatar [23:34] well, that's confusing !! [23:34] :o [23:35] works, thanks [23:35] so can someone can tell me? [23:35] The page you were going to is for setting your profile pic, not your avatar [23:35] but confusing it certainly is [23:35] ZachK_: the difference being... [23:35] I bet this question has been asked A LOT [23:35] :o [23:35] serverduck: One sec man...helping somebody...one sec and then yes I will help u [23:35] ZachK_: you are done with me :) [23:36] thank you and excuse me [23:36] sorry for being such a hassle [23:36] serverduck: shoot ! [23:36] ZachK_: thanks :) [23:36] I have installed a todo list programm from Ubuntucenter and then uninstaled it but if I click date and time...i get also an entry "task" with the todo list items I created ...how do i delete that? [23:36] It's ok Phrea [23:37] serverduck: Try opposite clicking on the task itself? [23:37] well there is an edit button here but i click it and it does nothing:) [23:38] Hmmm..what ubuntu version are you usii [23:38] *using [23:40] 9.10 amd 64 [23:40] Ok [23:40] Know how to use the terminal at all? [23:41] yes a bit [23:41] I'm a beginner but I can try:) [23:42] Ok...lol....gonna give you a command...(if I can remember it) [23:42] Ok shure! [23:45] Hey komputes, whata rhe terminal command for deleting a program [23:46] ZachK_, that you installed with apt? [23:46] pedro3005: Not me... serverduck [23:46] serverduck, try "sudo apt-get purge program" [23:47] ZachK_: you mean package? [23:47] ZachK_: sudo apt-get remove package_name [23:47] pedro3005, i had a todo list program from ubuntu center and then removed it from there...how can i purge it....gotta find out the name [23:48] serverduck, well you don't know the name of the program you installed? [23:48] it's only fair: ZachK_, you helped me make http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=893302 that my avatar... just so you know :D [23:48] Got it...it's GToDo [23:48] Haha Phrea that's cute [23:48] I hope I didnt dissapoint you [23:49] :D [23:49] serverduck, ok but in this case purge doesn't work [23:49] ZachK_: thanks [23:49] since you have already removed it [23:49] OHH [23:49]