| twb | Lucid's console-setup is calling "setupcon --force" in its postinst, which is screwing me over. I'd like to find out why this change was introduced before filing a bug report; the Maintainer is listed as the install team. | 04:19 |
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| persia | twb: I can't say for sure *why* that was introduced, but it appears to have been introduced as part of handling bug #524439 | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 524439 in console-setup "needs porting to udev/upstart" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524439 | 04:30 |
| persia | There's some lengthy expositions in that bug that talk about how console-setup is to work with upstart and plymouth, which may help explain | 04:31 |
| persia | twb: From a quick look at postinst, it appears that it only calls `setupcon --force -k`under some conditions : I'm not sure precisely what you are doing that causes you to experience an issue, but perhaps you can cause an alternate activity to happen based on the right preconditions. | 04:34 |
| persia | (note that this may be all completely incorrect : I'm basing the pointers off the results of `bzr annotate` which may miss cases where code is moved en-masse from one place to another) | 04:35 |
| twb | persia: I tried forcing plymouth to be installed, but deboostrap installs console-setup as part of the base BEFORE any of my extra packages are installed | 04:46 |
| twb | Basically I'm building Lucid netboot images for a customer, from my Debian Sid host. | 04:47 |
| twb | If I run live-helper on the tty, setupcon runs inside the chroot and just breaks my font. But if I do it over ssh, it turns off the local head, ignores ctrl-alt-del, breaks acpid's power button support, and kills all my ssh sessions -- basically meaning I have to do a hard reboot. | 04:48 |
| twb | If I boot the host OS with video=normal (disabling fbcon), the problem doesn't manifest. | 04:48 |
| persia | Someone else with deeper knowledge may be able to help. Last traffic I saw was that live-helper was specifically unsupported, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to make it work with a bit of fiddling. | 04:49 |
| twb | I could probably reproduce this with pure debootstrap | 04:50 |
| twb | I figured that "we don't support lh" just meant that Ubuntu wasn't supported as a "host"; not a "guest". | 04:51 |
| persia | I don't know enough about lh to know. | 04:52 |
| twb | persia: I did investigate how Ubuntu built its live CDs, but it turned out it was using lots of internal code that "won't work for anyone else without a lot of work" | 04:52 |
| persia | And I don't mean to imply that just because lh is involved that the issue doesn't matter, only to provide warning of the edges. | 04:52 |
| twb | Nod. | 04:53 |
| twb | persia: there's a reason you and cjwatson are in my IRC client's "bright" list :-) | 04:53 |
| persia | I've gotten livecd-rootfs to work locally without much extra work, but I've always just used that output to modify existing images (perhaps also modifying the kernel and initramfs). | 04:54 |
| persia | So *modifying* an Ubuntu CD isn't that hard: it's the creation of one that seems to be complicated. | 04:55 |
| persia | (I know folk who have gotten debian-cd running locally, but apparently it's very tricky) | 04:55 |
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| cjwatson | twb: *blink* if it's breaking something, that's unambiguously a bug, but it's mostly been like that for years; the only recent change to that part of the code was meant to be to cope with plymouth. | 08:03 |
| cjwatson | twb: which branch in the postinst is it taking? | 08:04 |
| twb | I'm not 100% sure | 08:04 |
| twb | It only happens if I boot the host sid system with video=i915:modeset=1 | 08:05 |
| twb | I'm avoiding it right now by booting with modeset=0, so I guess I'm still using the fbcon, even | 08:05 |
| twb | I suppose I could strace -f the whole build to find out how it's invoking setupcon | 08:06 |
| ev | I started playing around with adding unit tests to ubiquity yesterday but ran into the wall of not being able to pass PATH through sudo. | 08:12 |
| twb | ev: can't you instruct sudoers to allow it through? | 08:13 |
| twb | Or even just sudo foo --> sudo env "PATH=$PATH" foo | 08:13 |
| ev | I'd like to avoid having to do that, if possible | 08:15 |
| ev | and the env trick doesn't seem to work either | 08:15 |
| twb | Fair enough | 08:15 |
| ev | ah, -i | 08:21 |
| ev | thanks twb | 08:21 |
| twb | Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were using -i, but *wanted* to preserve the PATH. | 08:22 |
| ev | yeah, ignore me. It works fine without -i | 08:25 |
| ev | but it looks like I'm going to need to run the tests in a chroot anyway | 08:25 |
| twb | Usually, -i is more Right than -H -s or "sudo su -". | 08:27 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r843 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Fix GPT detection to account for changed fdisk output (LP: #538100). | 10:00 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r844 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu7 | 10:02 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: cjwatson * r191 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog init.d/parted): | 10:46 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: Don't source /usr/share/debconf/confmodule in init.d/parted; | 10:46 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: /lib/partman/lib/base.sh will always source it for us. | 10:46 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: evand * r275 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/backends/udisks/backend.py): | 11:21 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: Rework partition mounting so that it doesn't fail if the partition | 11:21 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: was mounted between dbus calls. | 11:21 |
| CIA-3 | console-setup: cjwatson * r138 ubuntu/ (console-setup-tty debian/changelog): console-setup-tty: Only call setfont once, for both font and ACM. | 11:46 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3921 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-wrapper debian/changelog): Explicitly pass $HOME through kdesudo (LP: #538142). | 13:22 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3923 ubiquity/debian/changelog: categorisation | 14:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3924 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-wrapper debian/changelog debian/control): | 14:30 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Use manual xauth code and sudo rather than kdesudo; the latter does | 14:30 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: not permit passing through environment variables other than | 14:30 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: one-by-one, which broke various things (LP: #526456, #538142). | 14:30 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r789 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/create_fstab_header): Mount /proc with nodev,noexec,nosuid. | 14:37 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r790 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu7 | 14:39 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3925 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/gtk/stepLanguage.ui): Align labels to the top on the language page (LP: #532876). | 14:39 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3926 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-usersetup.py): | 14:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Construct the default hostname from the text in the username box, not | 14:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: from the previous text in the hostname box (LP: #527704). | 14:45 |
| twb | In Lucid, I need casper to be in rcS, but *not* be in rc0. | 15:04 |
| twb | "update-rc.d casper disable 0" doesn't DTRT | 15:04 |
| twb | Oops, wrong channel. | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | ev: have you heard anything about the Kashmir bug yet? | 15:12 |
| ev | cjwatson: I have an exchange going with Ken and company about it | 15:14 |
| ev | I can CC you in if you'd like | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | no that's ok, I just wanted to know it was moving | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | there wasn't anything on the bug so I wasn't sure | 15:15 |
| ev | okay | 15:15 |
| ev | there seems to be some confusion as to who on the design team is tackling it, but I'm working on that. | 15:15 |
| cody-somerville | When you boot with casper, should the live user it creates show up in /etc/passwd in the live system? | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | I'd expect so | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | it creates it with adduser | 15:20 |
| cody-somerville | cjwatson, What would cause casper to fail to create the user? | 15:31 |
| * ev HATES PYTHON DEBUGGERS | 15:36 | |
| ev | *ahem* | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | cody-somerville: don't know, check /var/log/casper.log | 15:37 |
| twb | ev: gimme slime any day, eh? | 15:38 |
| twb | cody-somerville: maybe combined with break=casper-bottom | 15:38 |
| ev | twb: I'd be happy with gdb. At least it has features. | 15:39 |
| cody-somerville | There are several 'invalid user ubuntu' messages after "Begin: Adding live session user...\nsed: bad option in substitution expression" | 15:41 |
| twb | cody-somerville: what version of casper? | 15:44 |
| cody-somerville | 1.228 | 15:45 |
| cjwatson | cody-somerville: I'm not seeing anything obvious - but if you add the 'debug' boot option then you'll get a full 'set -x' shell trace in /dev/.initramfs/initramfs.debug, which you can correlate against the code to work out what's going wrong | 16:15 |
| cody-somerville | cjwatson, k, thanks. | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | cody-somerville: DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer mightn't hurt either | 16:16 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3927 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: The run method of GTK+ dialogs enters a nested main loop. However, | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: the user can click the quit button (which calls the quit dialog's | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: run method) before the page is ready. Once the page is actually ready, | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: another main loop is entered, and thus if the user hits the quit button | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: on the quit dialog at this point, nothing will happen. Work around this | 16:25 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: by managing the state of the quit dialog in the frontend. | 16:25 |
| kirkland | is "installing the base system" really crawling for anyone else today? | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | kirkland: is this in vm | 16:38 |
| kirkland | davmor2: no, real hardware, install the server | 16:38 |
| davmor2 | 32 or 64 bit? | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | recent change to dpkg to improve reliability had a performance hit | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | it's being discussed on debian-dpkg | 16:39 |
| kirkland | 64bit | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | shouldn't matter | 16:40 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: what was under a 10 minute install is ~30 minutes and counting now | 16:41 |
| cjwatson | yes I know | 16:42 |
| cjwatson | I'm sorry but we're looking into it. | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | the bug that was closed as part of this had 200 duplicates, so it isn't as simple as just reverting | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | as a workaround, install using ext3 | 16:43 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, thanks | 16:44 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: what's the d-i partman/foo string ext4 option I'm looking for to add to my preseed to go ext3 rather than ext4? | 16:46 |
| cjwatson | https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-partman search for "default filesystem" | 16:47 |
| twb | Is Ubuntu waiting for Debian for btrfs/aufs/squashfs udebs for d-i? | 16:48 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I just got a the kernel failed to re-read the partitions | 16:49 |
| davmor2 | kirkland: yes does seem slower, but I don't think it's going as slow as yours was | 16:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: perfect, thanks | 16:55 |
| kirkland | davmor2: vm, or hw? | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | hw | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | kirkland: nearly done, but you're right it is slower | 17:00 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: ext3 *much* faster, install finished in ~6 minutes | 17:02 |
| twb | kirkland: compared to ext4? | 17:03 |
| kirkland | twb: working around a dpkg bug on ext4 | 17:03 |
| twb | Righto. | 17:03 |
| twb | Otherwise I was gonna wave -ocommit and SSD erase block alignment and such at you | 17:04 |
| davmor2 | kirkland: I see what you mean now linux-headers-2.6.32-16-server is mega slow been on this now for serveral minutes | 17:09 |
| kirkland | davmor2: yup | 17:10 |
| kirkland | davmor2: i killed the install after ~35 minutes on a dual core laptop, 2.4GHz, 4GB, 7200rpm disk | 17:10 |
| davmor2 | it's carried on now | 17:11 |
| davmor2 | kirkland: so still no as slow as yours sorry ;) | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: on what configuration? | 17:18 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: (please be verbose up-front!) | 17:18 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: iso is 0fb898975b9ab8acd21bc25ca19fca9733d007a17144ae5f75893aaa1a878768 *lucid-server-amd64.iso . I did the standard whole drive lvm install that is auto selected | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | lvm. thank you. that was the magic word | 17:21 |
| cjwatson | 32/64-bitness is not usually relevant to this kind of thing | 17:21 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: did you have any partitions mounted by any manual means? | 17:21 |
| davmor2 | after base the other packages installed at normal speed it was only the base that was slow. So I installed additional ssh and that was quite quick | 17:21 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: nope | 17:22 |
| davmor2 | there were partitions on there priory that were over written | 17:22 |
| cjwatson | normal speed> just different kinds of packages. packages with lots of small files, notably linux-headers, suffer particularly badly | 17:22 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: hope that makes sense | 17:23 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: please don't drip-feed me this information, is there a bug with all of the information there at once? | 17:23 |
| cjwatson | (perhaps an older one I haven't got to yet ...) | 17:23 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I'll have a look this is the first time I've seen this a) slowness and b) error message | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | hm, haven't you mentioned it before? | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | maybe not | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | don't worry about the slowness, it's already very well-understood | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | and I don't think it can be related | 17:25 |
| davmor2 | I don't think I have reported it let me check though | 17:25 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I can't find a d-i bug in my bug mails so I haven't reported one | 17:29 |
| cjwatson | ok | 17:29 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: Would you like me to report a new bug or see if I can find one? | 17:30 |
| cjwatson | report a new one please | 17:31 |
| davmor2 | np's | 17:31 |
| cjwatson | you know what I think about piggybacking on existing bugs :) | 17:31 |
| davmor2 | that the piggy's should be shot and turned into bacon? | 17:34 |
| davmor2 | meh what's the crash database bug number please persia | 17:40 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: evand * r276 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/gtk/frontend.py): Somewhat fix progress reporting. | 17:51 |
| ev | michaelforrest1: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/539189 | 17:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539189 in usb-creator "Should remember last used folder for ISO" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/539194 hope that makes sense fsckin' apport's still broken | 18:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539194 in debian-installer "Error displayed on server install" [Undecided,New] | 18:01 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 18:02 |
| davmor2 | tried to make the old and new as obvious as possible let me know if there is anything else | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | I can't find a matching trace in the log - did you quote the error message exactly? I want to grep for it | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | ah, there we go, found it, you didn't quite :) | 18:04 |
| cjwatson | ok, will queue up ... | 18:04 |
| davmor2 | I was close though right ;) | 18:33 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: so that's okay you don't need anything else? | 18:35 |
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| ev | is there some trick to creating a debconf database from scratch? DEBCONF_DEBUG=db is being incredibly unhelpful. | 21:57 |
| * ev digs through the source | 21:58 | |
| cjwatson | ev: debconf-loadtemplate | 22:06 |
| ev | indeed, that blows up. I'm trying roughly this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395848/ | 22:07 |
| ev | which fails with: "Configuration database "configdb" was not initialized." | 22:10 |
| ev | slowly trying to trace through that, but my perl is a bit rusty | 22:10 |
| cjwatson | looks like about the right place to start ... | 22:17 |
| * ev bangs head repeatedly on table | 22:27 | |
| ev | s/Name: config/Name: configdb/ | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | hah, I have never done that before, oh no | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | except for all those times | 22:28 |
| ev | lol | 22:29 |
| sbeattie | cjwatson: is there a known issue with the alt installer failing on setting up swap with full-disk encryption? | 22:30 |
| cjwatson | not one I know in those terms | 22:31 |
| sbeattie | (sorry, meant guided partitioning w/ lvm+encryption) | 22:59 |
| cjwatson | can you be a bit more verbose about "failing" please? | 23:02 |
| sbeattie | cjwatson: sure, bug 539324 | 23:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539324 in debian-installer "Setting up swap fails when setting lvm+encryption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539324 | 23:04 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3929 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 23:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup | 23:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: 1.34ubuntu11, grub-installer 1.49ubuntu7, partman-base 138ubuntu3, | 23:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: partman-target 64ubuntu7. | 23:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3930 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.0 | 23:47 |
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