[04:40] <RAOF> What's the right behaviour for an image editor if someone deletes the image while it's being edited?
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[13:29] <seb128> jcastro, jpetersen, Nafai: hey
[14:42] <Nafai> Good morning
[14:43] <seb128> hey Nafai
[14:43] <seb128> how are you?
[14:43] <Nafai> Not bad
[14:43] <Nafai> Sorry about yesterday, got filled up :(
[14:43] <seb128> good ;-)
[14:43] <seb128> np
[14:43] <seb128> I've added some extra bugs to your list today
[14:43] <seb128> those should be all quite easy
[14:44] <seb128> it's mainly making sure notifications don't use actions
[14:44] <Nafai> okay, cool
[14:44] <Nafai> I should finish up the ones I have this morning
[14:44] <Nafai> and then get to those
[14:44] <seb128> excellent
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[16:37] <jcastro> kwwii: is there a bug # for the tomboy monochrome icon?
[16:38] <kwwii> jcastro: think so, cannot remember the #
[16:39] <jcastro> ok I'll chase it down
[16:40] <seb128> jcastro, it's on ubuntu-mono I think
[16:40] <seb128> jcastro, there is not so many bugs with tomboy in the title there ;-)
[16:40] <jcastro> seb128: ok I was just wondering if we had someone assigned to fix it for tomboy
[16:43] <jcastro> seb128: I don't see a tomboy bug in ubuntu-mono
[16:46] <seb128> jcastro, look on tomboy then, I bet it has been reassigned
[16:46] <seb128> just look for monochrome in the bug title
[17:00] <vish> jcastro: Bug #531533
[17:00] <ubot4> vish: Bug 531533 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/531533 is private
[17:00]  * vish taps ubot4 
[17:01] <jcastro> thanks!
[17:02] <ia> hello. I have a question about pygtk, gnome applets development and some indicator-applet-session behavior. Maybe this wrong place for such question (sorry, if so), but I know, that a lot gtk hackers here, so i will be very appreciate for any clues. So, here snippet with simple applet - http://paste.ubuntu.com/396240 ; here screenshot with menu popup behavior - http://yfrog.com/6wgtkmenup . The question is - how to make menu popups under gnome panel (like it does
[17:02] <ia>  in indicator-applet-session), but not above it? (I've looked through sources of indicator-applet-session, but I don't know C very well, so I haven't found the answer there)
[17:02] <jcastro> oh nice work getting that upstream!
[17:57] <seb128> jcastro, kenvandine: you use empathy with facebook?
[17:57] <kenvandine> seb128, i do
[17:57] <seb128> kenvandine, did you notice bug #520115?
[17:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520115 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Notification of contact's connection (affects: 1)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520115
[17:57] <jcastro> I can, but I don't keep it on usually
[17:58] <seb128> ie wrong osd photo being shown when 2 contacts connect at the same time
[17:58] <kenvandine> seb128, interesting
[17:59] <kenvandine> seb128, that is probably because of append in notify-osd
[17:59] <kenvandine> i would think it would change the text not the image if anything
[17:59] <kenvandine> i don't see that, i have login/off notifications turned off
[17:59] <seb128> kenvandine, empathy is not using append is it?
[17:59] <kenvandine> it is
[17:59] <kenvandine> but it seems to work well for IMs
[18:00] <seb128> hum
[18:01] <jcastro> I will turn it on and see if I notice it
[18:01] <seb128> kenvandine, what is bug #408294 about then?
[18:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 408294 in empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Notifications do not merge when coming from the same contact (affects: 3)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408294
[18:02] <kenvandine> seb128, that must be a dupe
[18:02] <seb128> kenvandine, is that fixed in lucid then? or something different?
[18:02] <kenvandine> i did it under bug #476662
[18:03] <kenvandine> i fixed it on dec 7
[18:03] <seb128> the facebook bug is from one week ago
[18:03] <seb128> jcastro, thanks for testing ;-)
[18:03] <jcastro> it shouldn't take me long to find it
[18:04] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm trying to figure if notify-osd or empathy is buggy there
[18:04] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah... it might not handle merge/append well for login events
[18:04] <seb128> kenvandine, it being empathy?
[18:04] <kenvandine> yes
[18:04] <seb128> kenvandine, btw can you try to get https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607446 updated?
[18:05] <ubot4> Gnome bug 607446 in Notifications "Support the append hint for notifications" [Enhancement,New]
[18:05] <kenvandine> yeah, i was just reading that
[18:05] <seb128> thanks
[18:05] <kenvandine> i'll take the facebook bug there too
[18:05] <seb128> thanks
[18:06] <seb128> Nafai, have you started looking at bug #408294 which I assigned to you?
[18:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 408294 in empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Notifications do not merge when coming from the same contact (affects: 3)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408294
[18:06] <seb128> Nafai, cf log, it should already be fixed in lucid but seems there are issues in some cases
[18:07] <kenvandine> seb128, i changed it to empathy for now, if i determine it is notify-osd i'll change it back
[18:08] <jcastro> seb128: it does the right thing for me; I'll keep watching it. I have enough friends that it's just firing off a bunch of time
[18:08] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[18:08]  * kenvandine enabled notifications for login/off 
[18:08] <seb128> jcastro, thanks
[18:08] <kenvandine> we'll see if i see it too :)
[18:10] <jcastro> this reminds me that we need a better icon than bald silver guy.
[18:24] <kenvandine> hehe
[18:25] <kenvandine> wow, notifications for sign on events are painful with facebook :)
[18:33] <jcastro> kenvandine: yeah it's pretty brutal
[18:34] <kenvandine> i am pretty confident it isn't merging these notifications for signon
[18:34] <jcastro> it seems to be acting normally to me
[18:35] <kenvandine> i just had 6 people in my message menu as just signed on
[18:35] <kenvandine> and i got one notification each
[18:35] <kenvandine> it's actually very annoying 
[18:35] <kenvandine> :/
[18:35] <jcastro> we have this off by default right?
[18:35] <kenvandine> yes
[18:35] <kenvandine> :)
[18:45] <manish> vish, is there any humanity icon for xchat?
[18:46] <vish> manish: yup , xchat-panel is there in the theme
[18:46] <manish> vish, in lucid?
[18:46] <vish> manish: yes , the apps need to use the icons 
[18:47] <manish> any idea how to get it done... I am not using Lucid now
[18:48] <vish> manish: file a bug in xchat , and if you are interested in writing a patch , have a look at the tomboy one , >  Bug #531533
[18:48] <manish> vish, I am good at programming. not in making icons :)
[18:49] <vish> manish: ;) the icon is done , so you need to worry only about the code 
[18:50] <manish> vish, cool. then /me goes out to get the code for it :)
[18:56] <manish> vish, I checked out the repo, but still I can't find any such icon http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/humanity-icon-theme/lucid/files/head%3A/Humanity/
[18:56] <manish> am I missing something
[18:56] <vish> manish: apps/
[18:58] <vish> manish: /Humanity-Dark/apps/24/xchat-panel.svg
[18:59] <manish> vish, oops. I was checking Humanity folder instead of Humanity-Dark
[19:01] <Nafai> seb128: Thanks, I saw the comment
[19:09] <seb128> Nafai, you're welcome
[19:14] <qense>  /whois DBO
[19:14] <qense> whoops
[19:14] <qense> DBO: you are David Barth?
[19:14] <DBO> no
[19:14] <qense> ah :)
[19:14] <qense> I wanted to check that.
[19:14] <DBO> dbarth is David Barth
[19:14] <qense> ok
[19:14] <qense> he's not on
[19:15] <qense> I'll ask ted
[19:15] <qense> tedg: do you consider bug #493964 fixed?
[19:15] <seb128> qense, he's davidbarth
[19:16] <qense> ah, and davidbarth is on
[19:17] <qense> davidbarth: you reported bug #493964, do you consider it to be fixed sufficiently? (Taking into account that the fallback and unfallback methods cannot be overridden nor be accessed in C#?)
[19:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 493964 in indicator-application "Add fallback support (affects: 1)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493964
[19:21] <seb128> qense, about the notify-osd wishlist for resetting timing on mouseover, if you want
[19:22] <seb128> qense, notify-osd is not really actively maintained and I tried to clean the buglist
[19:22] <qense> ah
[19:22] <qense> What! Not actively maintained?
[19:22] <seb128> I don't care enough to argue about settings though
[19:22] <qense> ok, then we won't have a fight about it
[19:22] <seb128> ;-)
[19:22] <seb128> "not actively maintained", look at the changes during the lucid cycle
[19:23] <qense> true
[19:23] <qense> But still, you'd expect otherwise for what was an important part of Ayatana.
[19:23] <qense> Maybe it got the same treatment as the sound theme. ;)
[19:23] <seb128> lol
[19:24] <seb128> well ayatana has still a small team and lot of work
[19:24] <seb128> and notify-osd is mostly doing its job
[19:24] <qense> That sounds like a more plausible and like an understandable reason.
[19:24] <jcastro> it just needs a bit of love
[19:25] <qense> and a direction
[19:25] <qense> are there still things from the design document that aren't implemented?
[19:25] <jcastro> no idea
[19:25] <seb128> not too many I guess
[19:26] <seb128> there is the bug we just mentioned there
[19:26] <seb128> other I don't know
[19:26] <seb128> ok, need to go
[19:26] <seb128> bbl
[19:26] <qense> bye!
[19:41] <qense> davidbarth: there are a few bug reports of you in indicator-application that seem to be fixed already. Would you please go through them in order to clean the bug reports of the project?
[19:54] <manish> vish, I opened a bug report https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2971499&group_id=239&atid=100239
[19:55] <ubot4> manish: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0x33c2758> bug 2971499 not found
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[19:58] <vish> manish: neat , if you open one in lp too that would be great
[19:58] <manish> sure
[20:12] <manish> vish, what should be the package name? xchat? or xchat-indicator?
[20:12] <vish> manish: xchat
[20:12] <manish> xchat-systray?
[20:13] <manish> except that there is nothing inside
[20:14] <manish> here is the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/539847
[20:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 539847 in xchat (Ubuntu) "XChat should use the Humanity Dark icon (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[20:38] <davidbarth> seb128: i closed the bug gense was mentioning
[20:38] <seb128> davidbarth, ok
[20:38] <qense> davidbarth: thanks
[20:38] <qense> it's qense, btw ;)
[20:39] <davidbarth> qense: sorry, but yeah, fix released for some time
[20:40] <qense> np
[20:41] <qense> I was cleaning the bug reports of indicator-application and stumbled upon yours.
[20:41] <qense> I wanted to be sure you really considered them fully done.
[20:47] <seb128> kenvandine, jcastro: I guess you didn't see bug #539865 either?
[20:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 539865 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Seeing ghost man instead of Facebook profile pic (affects: 1)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539865
[20:48] <jcastro> seb128: mike found it and I told him to file it
[20:48] <seb128> and the notify-osd log is pretty useless for those...
[20:51] <kenvandine> seb128, i have seen that a couple times
[20:51] <kenvandine> but i think it just hasn't downloaded/cached it
[20:51] <kenvandine> once they go on and off a couple times
[20:51] <kenvandine> it shows up
[20:53] <seb128> I think I will improve the notify-osd log code to display some extra infos
[20:53] <seb128> like the image info received
[20:54] <seb128> and the flags
[20:54] <seb128> it's annoying right now to not know if issues are on the receiver or submitter end
[20:54] <seb128> Nafai, how is the rhythmbox issue going?
[20:56] <Nafai> just started looking into it again right now :)
[20:57] <seb128> Nafai, do you need some help on it?
[20:57] <Nafai> not yet, I just haven't looked at it for a couple of days
[20:57] <seb128> Nafai, seems you didn't make lot of progress in 3 work days now, maybe switch to something else if that's creating too much issues?
[20:58] <seb128> or you worked on some other bugs recently?
[20:58] <seb128> sorry I'm having hard time to track changes there
[20:58] <seb128> can you summarize the ones you are working on right now?
[20:58] <Nafai> that's okay.  I didn't get to work at all because of my appointments yesterday, and I was working on gnome-bluetooth bugs mainly last week, but some of them got resolved by indicator-applet changes
[20:59] <Nafai> I'm starting to be productive again, so I'll pipe up if I need help
[20:59] <seb128> ok thanks
[20:59] <seb128> sorry for pinging so often
[21:00] <seb128> since there has been quite some changes in worklow and tasks I was trying to see where we stand now
[21:00] <Nafai> no, I appreciate it
[21:00] <seb128> seems we are all good ;-)
[21:00] <Nafai> helps me get back on task after a few unproductive days
[21:00] <seb128> good, thanks
[21:00] <seb128> let me know if you need any help or are not sure what to work on next
[21:01] <seb128> rhythmbox artwork issue for now would be bug #1
[21:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 16 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 223)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[21:01] <seb128> ups
[21:01] <seb128> ;-)
[21:01] <Nafai> heh
[21:01] <Nafai> Sweet, you mean me fixing the rb issue closes that one!
[21:01] <Nafai> I'd be a hero!
[21:02] <seb128> let's see ;-)