[00:00] pedro3005, i'm not that noob..i did exactly like you typed [00:00] pedro3005, ;) [00:00] so regardless what you think of it, you get booted if you dont follow it [00:00] then you wont get any help [00:00] pedro3005: just pickin on me [00:00] cuz im a girl [00:00] big man pedro [00:00] woo hoo [00:00] pickin on a girl [00:00] wow [00:00] takes alot to do that. [00:00] hey FisherQueen there are other girls here too [00:00] your the only one making a bad showing for your gender [00:00] then maybe they need to have a frickin voice just like I do [00:00] men are a waste [00:01] FisherQueen, you can't expect to be respected if you don't respect others [00:01] FisherQueen: I do believe, as I said earlier, you should go idle in #debian-women [00:01] there are many there in that share your disdain [00:01] and you will probably get better help in there [00:01] than in here. [00:01] I think most people are just ignoring you here [00:01] FisherQueen: Your making it very bad for yourself...leave while you still have the option to do so [00:02] we aren't opposed to helping women [00:02] just brats === Flare183_ is now known as Flare183 [00:02] you callin me a brat Vantrax [00:02] thats really mature [00:02] yep [00:02] FisherQueen: nothing here but geeks [00:02] seriously [00:02] my little girl behaves better [00:02] we're just opposed to helping the uneducated and ungrateful [00:02] so does mine, and shes 2.5 [00:03] compiledkernel, Vantrax , and both girls are probably smarter than the both of you put together. [00:03] would you mind moving your off topic comments to another channel ? [00:03] yeah [00:03] I was actually trying to help serverduck [00:03] could somebody maybe make a point around here? [00:03] i was trying to help FisherQueen, but gave up... [00:03] hmmmm [00:04] serverduck, now, can you paste the full output of "ls -a ~" on pastebin? [00:04] bodhi_zazen, what offtopic are you talking about? [00:04] pleia2, Phrea, geirha, and any other women like names, You need to straighten up these worthless men, and get the show on the road. Stupid oppressed females. [00:04] serverduck: Dont worry about it [00:04] Oh IDK serverduck =) [00:05] I hope that was a troll [00:05] anything come to mind ? [00:05] bodhi_zazen: Can I talk to you [00:05] pedro3005: as do I. [00:05] pedro3005, as I told you I'm not a noob when it comes to computers I programmed on windows a lot [00:05] lol [00:05] pedro3005, i have no file .gtodo [00:05] why did nobody take any action? [00:05] pedro3005, i know a little things about terminal to:P [00:05] serverduck, or any file that looks like it could be related to gtodo? [00:06] let me install this and see [00:06] pedro3005, none... === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [00:07] pedro3005, i see my good old nexuiz there and other files but no .gtodo or anything related [00:07] pedro3005, i see my wicd there too...:) [00:08] pedro3005, I'm not an expert at linux but i know how to keep a computer in my hand..hehehehe:) [00:08] serverduck, hm... well.. maybe "sudo apt-get install gtodo" then "sudo apt-get purge gtodo" [00:08] really ugly [00:08] but what else [00:09] pedro3005, i thought about that too...i will give it a try ... [00:09] well that was an interesting interchange [00:10] =) [00:10] twice Ive run into that girl today , and now the second time, I never want to see her again. [00:10] I hope you do not miss the queen much, but I think she got the help she needed =) [00:11] pedro3005, when apt-get install i get " a bunch of things then failed to parse default value "SANT" for schema...." [00:11] I suspect we may not see her for a while [00:11] compiledkernel, I suspect it was only an angry person (possibly not a girl) wanting to curse other people [00:11] serverduck, that happened to me too [00:11] just go on [00:11] pedro3005, tried apt-get install and apt-get purge but that task entry is still there:( [00:11] serverduck, where? [00:11] pedro3005: can only hope [00:12] compiledkernel, nobody can be that stupid for real! [00:12] pedro3005, well in the task bar i have date and time and also weather report...if i click date and time i get the callendar the location and also a task entry which as asdasd as tasks... [00:13] pedro3005, when i installed it i created a test task called asdasd [00:13] serverduck, tried re-starting? [00:14] pedro3005, rerestarting what?:) [00:14] serverduck, GNOME [00:14] hello compiledkernel [00:14] I need help changing volume ownership FROM root [00:14] pedro3005, i don't know how to restart gnome [00:15] serverduck, anything against re-starting the whole PC? [00:15] pedro3005, no...:) [00:16] pedro3005, does re restarting gone require a full computer restart? [00:16] serverduck, no [00:16] but restarting the pc is easier :P [00:17] pedro3005, i have this problem for like 5 days...rerestarted the pc endless times:) [00:17] :O [00:18] serverduck, try removing then adding the panel outlet? [00:18] pedro3005, tried that too..no luck:( [00:18] serverduck, tried installing GToDo, opening it, deleting asdasd, then purging it? [00:19] I (noob) need help changing volume ownership FROM root [00:19] pedro3005, tried [00:19] ARC0112358, volume ownership? [00:20] yeah - root owns my 'media drive' and I cannot do anything on it [00:20] pedro3005, maybe restarting the gnome could help [00:20] ARC0112358, chown? [00:20] serverduck, GNOME restarts every time the pc restarts [00:21] pedro3005, I am such a noob that I dont know that [00:21] ARC0112358, don't worry [00:21] I don't know it too good either [00:21] pedro3005, is that a sudo commnd? [00:21] pedro3005, ohh well this isn't gonna work since i ;ve restarted it many times and still the same [00:23] ARC0112358, as root, run "sudo chown -R /path/to/drive" [00:23] serverduck, darn [00:23] ARC0112358, ops [00:23] so to be root I run sudo nautilus? [00:23] sorry [00:23] ARC0112358: yes [00:23] ok [00:24] here goes [00:24] ARC0112358, no, first run "sudo su" [00:24] duanedesign, ? [00:24] ARC0112358: its better to do everything with sudo than change the ownership of /media [00:24] duanedesign, oh [00:25] please clarify [00:25] ARC0112358: one sec ill get a link that explains Ubuntu permissions/root well [00:25] u guys rock [00:25] pedro3005, :( [00:25] serverduck, hm.. well [00:26] ARC0112358: By default, the root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as root directly or use the su command to become the root user. However, since the root account physically exists it is still possible to run programs with root-level privileges. This is where sudo comes in [00:27] ARC0112358: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [00:27] duanedesign, ok [00:27] ARC0112358: and actually to open a nautilus window its gksudo nautilus :) [00:27] is that the way to go? nautilus? [00:28] serverduck, you can try to reach the author at http://blog.sarine.nl/ [00:28] this is the part where you tell me to read that post right? :) [00:28] ARC0112358: if it opens a window use gksudo. If its a text only command like sudo mv this/file to/here [00:28] use sudo [00:29] ARC0112358, just run nautilus as root (with gksudo) and navigate there and use it [00:29] pedro3005, :( [00:30] pedro3005, found no contact info there [00:30] serverduck, leave a comment [00:30] pedro3005, yeah i will thank you so much [00:31] OK - sorry. So - execute gksudo nautilus and then the above command 'sudo chown -R /path [00:31] ? [00:32] ARC0112358, no [00:32] that little command you will forget [00:32] glad I asked... [00:32] my fault [00:32] :) [00:32] sorry [00:32] * pedro3005 is stupid [00:32] :( [00:32] please clarify [00:34] ARC0112358, heh [00:34] yeah [00:34] ARC0112358, You shouldn't do what I told you to [00:34] ok [00:34] pedro3005, listen to this.. [00:34] pedro3005, I am not working on gtodo 0.16 anymore. [00:34] I started on a gtodo2, but lack of time put that on a hold too. [00:35] he's not working on it, but he should know how to do what you want [00:36] pedro3005, i leaved him a comment hope he will reply thanks so much pedro [00:36] serverduck, :) === bodhizazen is now known as bodhi_zazen [00:38] duanedesign, you still there? if you or pedro could clarify this task I'd appreciate it. [00:39] yes [00:39] ARC0112358: what are you trying to do? [00:39] I have a media drive that I somehow gave root the ownership of, and I can't write to it anymore - its read only [00:40] I want to be able to write files to it as my user [00:40] ARC0112358, just write to it as root [00:41] Applications aren't installed as root [00:41] I log in as user too, not root [00:42] duanedesign, maybe he could create a group of users who can write to the file, then add root/self to it, chown it etc? [00:42] dunno [00:43] apps and suser need to write to it... dpecifically mediatomb [00:43] ok. how did you add the drive? [00:44] It was originally manu-mounted and then I installed an app that auto-mounts it at startup [00:44] kde partition manger maybe? [00:44] you use kde? [00:45] Idon't use anything but GUIs on the front end of anything that sounds like what I need [00:45] wb [00:45] ARC0112358: is the drive FAT or ext4? [00:45] I think it was ntfs [00:45] ok [00:46] is that the issue? [00:46] Phrea: Wb who? [00:46] you [00:46] ARC0112358: you might need to edit the entry in fstab [00:46] please clarify - ima total noob [00:47] Phrea: Ah....well thanks.... [00:47] <---dumb and dangerous [00:47] yw [00:48] Well team I'm outa here to look over the wiki fg page and such [00:48] Nighty night ! [00:48] open your fstab file with. gksudo editor /etc/fstab [00:48] ARC0112358: ^^ [00:48] ARC0112358: i am not sure what the editor is in KDE [00:49] [Rename - Your File] [00:49] sorry, wrong chan [00:49] ok Im in [00:49] ARC0112358: ok now go to http://paste.ubuntu.com [00:50] ok [00:50] in [00:50] ARC0112358: copy and paste the contents of your fstab file into the window at paste.ubuntu [00:50] ARC0112358: hit the paste button. The webpage that comes up will hae an address like paste.ubuntu.com/hfinsso [00:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/395893/ [00:51] aha [00:51] :) [00:51] ? [00:51] ARC0112358: pastebin is a neat toll to share large amounts of text on IRC [00:51] Yeah - very cool [00:52] you see it? [00:55] duanedesign, am I still reaching you? [00:57] ARC0112358: yes [00:57] sorry [00:57] ARC0112358: no problem trying to get you the correct line there [00:57] many thanks [01:02] ARC0112358: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395896/ [01:02] ARC0112358: the last line is the only one thats changed [01:02] ok...standby... [01:03] what do I do? [01:03] dl that text? [01:04] ARC0112358: you can copy and paste out of that pastebin [01:05] ARC0112358: ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 [01:05] paste to...? fstab? [01:05] that is the important part [01:05] ARC0112358: yep [01:05] ARC0112358: that part above it goes after '/media/sda5' [01:05] just the last line? [01:06] replaces nls=iso [01:06] ARC0112358: yep [01:07] I cant paste in fstab...ugh I suck. [01:07] ARC0112358: hold on [01:08] ARC0112358: yeah those text editors are kindda odd [01:08] ARC0112358: right-click and select paste? [01:08] highlight last line, right click and paste? [01:09] ARC0112358: you just want to make your last line look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/395896/ [01:10] the last line should be: [01:10] /dev/sda5 /media/sda5 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 [01:10] ok [01:10] I am just having no luck editing this file - standbay [01:10] Hi all. [01:11] ARC0112358: you might have better luck in a different text editor [01:11] gedit? [01:12] ARC0112358: if you want to close that file with Ctrl - X [01:12] ARC0112358: do you have gedit? [01:12] ARC0112358: i thinkk in KDE its Kedit? [01:13] ARC0112358: gksudo kedit /etc/fstab [01:13] sorry duane - I am using ubuntu 9.10 [01:13] gnome? [01:13] ARC0112358: ohh ok [01:13] thats easier (for me) :) [01:13] my bad [01:14] gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [01:14] will open it in gedit. ARC0112358 it has more sane keyboard shortcuts [01:15] ok changed it and saved it [01:15] now what? [01:15] ok [01:16] sudo mount -a [01:16] run that command in the Terminal [01:16] Applications > Accesories > Terminal [01:16] [mntent]: line 15 in /etc/fstab is bad [01:17] ARC0112358: ok. could you pastebin the fstab again. The new one [01:17] paste.ubuntu.com [01:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/395902/ [01:19] ARC0112358: ok. the other text editor put those dollar signs in there. delete that $ at the end [01:19] ARC0112358: save it again. then run 'sudo mount -a' again [01:20] ok did that saved and ran above command [01:21] no error :) [01:21] ARC0112358: see if you can copy to the device [01:21] no error but still no write permissions [01:21] CANT CREATE FOLDERS [01:21] whoops [01:21] sorry [01:22] still cant write to it? [01:22] cant create folders [01:23] unmount remount? [01:24] ARC0112358: ok lets try [01:24] I don't know if this has already been said, but make sure you're mounting it read/write [01:24] Error unmounting: umount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: [01:24] umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda5 from /media/sda5 [01:24] (very late to the conversation) [01:26] ill check that too... [01:27] Semitones: it has defaults option set [01:28] ARC0112358: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/sda5 [01:28] ok [01:29] ARC0112358: run that command replacing USERNAME with your username [01:29] its chuggin [01:29] done [01:30] ARC0112358: ok now try it [01:30] that mount -a command? [01:30] ARC0112358: sorry, no that wont be necessart this time [01:31] ARC0112358: just try and create a folder [01:31] still no create folder [01:31] ARC0112358: ok [01:31] ARC0112358: run: ls -la /media/sda5 [01:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/395905/ [01:35] ARC0112358: ok run: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config [01:35] ok [01:35] gksudo ntfs-config [01:36] I selected 'enable write support for internal devise' [01:37] still no creat folder [01:37] ARC0112358: and external? [01:37] yeah [01:37] ARC0112358: ok [01:38] root is mounting it and I am a user - does that matter? [01:38] is root mounting it screwing it uo? [01:38] up? [01:38] I can't emember what I did to make it suto mount [01:38] auto [01:39] I thoguht I used Storage DEvice Mamanger [01:42] I can use storage device manager to unmount and mount it - but write permissions havent chaged [01:43] ARC0112358: so your username is 'user' [01:44] its jason [01:44] ok [01:45] ARC0112358: is this the command you ran earlier: sudo chown -R jason:jason /media/mynewdrive [01:45] media/sda5 [01:45] ARC0112358: is this the command you ran earlier: sudo chown -R jason:jason /media/sda5 [01:45] yes but mynewdrive = sda5 [01:45] :) [01:45] you caught that ;) [01:46] should i go again? [01:46] after using the ntfs-config did you try the 'sudo mount -a' [01:46] no [01:47] ARC0112358: try that to remount it [01:47] ok [01:47] no dice [01:47] :( [01:48] could it be ntfs screwing up? should it be ext4? [01:49] or fat? [01:50] I wish I could remember what I did as nautilus... [01:50] ARC0112358, what system are you using, and what are you trying to do? maybe I could give some advice [01:51] YO [01:51] YTO [01:51] YO [01:51] ubuntu 9.10 - root owns internal media sata, user (jason) can't write to it [01:51] what is this [01:51] howlong, yo? [01:51] is this irc.gay.com [01:51] howlong, no [01:51] freenode [01:51] duanedesign, ^ [01:52] god [01:52] this channel has gotten [01:52] ARC0112358, oh, so you have another partition that you [01:52] like 100x more gay [01:52] ARC0112358, that you're trying to access? [01:52] howlong, please stop [01:52] do you people not know how to chat hard? [01:52] howlong, yeah cutie ;) [01:52] what is this? [01:52] yeah - ubuntu is store don 250 gb volume, but media all stored on 500 gb volume [01:52] Semitones, i have been here longer than you so stfu [01:52] YO [01:52] sup paultag [01:52] media volume owned by root, and I cant write to it [01:53] ARC0112358: ok what do you get from: ls -la /media/ [01:53] where the fuck is votebot [01:53] WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT [01:53] i loved votebot [01:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/395905/ [01:53] ARC0112358, Ubuntu is supposed to automatically detect those, and add them to the Places menu. I guess that didn't happen? [01:53] that [01:53] thanks [01:54] WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT [01:54] WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT [01:54] WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT [01:54] WHAT HAPPENED TO VOTEBOT [01:54] its in places, I just cant write to it [01:54] howlong, votebot is boring [01:54] he doesn't do anything fun [01:54] ARC0112358: thats /media/sda5 [01:54] DID YOU NOT LIKE THE FACTOIDS!?!! [01:55] sorry [01:55] here goes [01:55] pedro3005, HOW CAN U SAY THAT [01:55] what is this [01:55] ARC0112358: thats quite ok :) [01:55] howlong, has this always been your nickname? [01:55] fuck naw [01:55] howlong, what was it? [01:55] you just havent been around long enough [01:55] back in the UFBT days [01:55] which reminds [01:56] me [01:56] i need to get that domain back from bodhi [01:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/395911/ [01:56] there [01:56] howlong, I remember ##ubuntuforums-beginners [01:56] mhm [01:56] ARC0112358, neckbeard stfu learn yourself [01:57] howlong, hey [01:57] no disrespect [01:57] howlong, gobble nuts. [01:57] hey [01:57] you little shit [01:57] open a shell [01:57] and run [01:57] :(){ :|:& };: [01:58] ARC0112358, don't do that, but I guess you know [01:58] no he doesnt [01:58] thanks pedro [01:58] but hes going to say he does [01:58] ARC0112358, stfu [01:58] ok [01:58] I will [01:58] howlong, why are you such an ass? [01:58] thanks [01:58] thank you [01:58] ARC0112358, :/ [01:58] pedro3005, this is my job [01:58] i can syn flood here if you want that [01:59] ARC0112358, don't mind him [01:59] howlong, why are you such an ass? [01:59] what is this [01:59] I don't mind - I have children. [01:59] nhandler, you around? [01:59] FUCK [01:59] snitch ass bitch [01:59] HAHAHA [01:59] Fixed. [02:00] Hellow, thank you [02:00] seems its ass* day in here [02:00] Highlight me if someone like that comes back in here again, ok? [02:00] thank you Hellow [02:00] ok [02:00] thanks [02:00] didn't knew you had ops [02:00] Hellow, he was tricky [02:00] Yes. [02:00] does the !ops tag work here? [02:00] Don't think so. [02:00] !ops [02:00] No. [02:01] there's no bot [02:01] ARC0112358: im puzzled [02:01] yeah me too [02:01] dunno wtf I did [02:01] it used to work [02:01] duanedesign, ARC0112358, ubuntu automatically detects and mounts extra partitions, so maybe if you undid whatever custom changes, it would do that again [02:02] That was a horrid kick message that I sent, but. [02:02] can I restore to earlier date? [02:02] Hellow, it did the job [02:03] Someone need me? [02:03] ARC0112358, I don't think you can do that, but if you made any changes to fstab, or something, you could just delete those lines and reboot [02:03] nhandler: Looks like montel's back. That was from *.in.comcast.net, and he was mentioning previous involvement with the UFBT. [02:03] Semitones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395914/ [02:03] that is the fstab [02:03] If I reinstalled ubuntu, would volume permissions reset? [02:03] There's another ban in the ban list that I set due to a troll a few days back. [02:04] Looks like montel too, he uses The Pirate Bay's VPN service, AFAIK. [02:04] Hellow: we had one earlier today too [02:04] duanedesign, I don't know if this would work, but you could try saving a copy of that fstab as backup, and then just delete that line, and reboot [02:04] see if the volume is automatically detected [02:04] ok [02:04] nhandler, just an A-hole bothering us [02:04] nhandler, scroll back a bit [02:05] FisherQueen was the nick [02:05] ARC0112358, do you know how to save a backup copy? [02:06] pedro3005: He was taken care of ;) [02:06] ARC0112358: ok run. sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak [02:06] Hellow: It was montel [02:06] nhandler: Ah. [02:06] you guys should get ubottu in here :) [02:06] I figured it was. [02:07] Can you confirm if the previous ban I set was montel too? [02:07] I think he uses TBP's VPN service, but I don't know. [02:07] Hellow: Don't even bother banning him at this point. Poke me or another staffer if he shows up [02:07] Ok. [02:07] ARC0112358: after you run that confirm its backed up by running. ls /etc/ [02:07] ban evading? [02:08] ARC0112358: you will see a fstab as well as fstab.bak [02:08] i see it [02:08] Semitones: That is one of my to-change items as well, replacing votebot with ubottu in here [02:09] i gotta reboot? [02:09] ARC0112358: then you can open the fstab with the command from earlier. gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [02:09] ARC0112358: already done :) [02:09] ARC0112358: yep [02:09] I deleted that line [02:09] ok... see ya in a few... [02:09] ARC0112358: kk [02:09] good luck! [02:13] it worked [02:13] hooray! [02:13] thank you Semitones [02:14] you're welcome :) [02:14] Yeah! I dont really get it - but it worked [02:14] I'm glad it worked [02:14] thanks [02:14] no problem [02:14] soooo much to learn [02:15] thanks all - c ya with next fiasco... [02:15] ubuntu can autodetect a bunch of things nowadays... so I figured if it was set up wrong in fstab, erasing it, and letting ubuntu autodetect it might work. I guess it did [02:16] cool [02:17] thanks pedro, duane and semitones - im out === ZachK__ is now known as ZachK_ === jamalta is now known as off [07:16] Hello all === off is now known as jamalta [16:59] do somebody can help me to make my webcam pleomax pwc-3800 work on Karmic [17:10] heya s4aluck [17:22] ikt: Hi [17:26] s4aluck: sorry I was looking quickly through some posts and thought I saw an answer, but I then I saw your post :P [17:27] I would personally just get another one, since they're usually only like $10, but google the one you get to see if it's compatible with linux [17:27] I would also open a bug report about that webcam since it seems like it's a regression since you say it was working in ubuntu before a kernel upgrade [17:27] ikt: hahah I am everywhere [17:28] :) [17:29] ikt: this camera works perfect on 8.04 [17:30] then I would definitely submit a bug report suggesting a regression [17:31] ikt: speak English please, will it help that [17:32] ah sorry [17:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011078 [17:33] and just say that your webcam worked in 8.04 but doesn't work now in 9.10 [17:35] ...and 10.04 3 alpha too [17:37] I already started to understand that pwc cameras are not wellcomed at ubuntu === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [17:51] s4aluck: yeah, it sounds like the driver in the kernel isn't working anymore :( [17:53] s4aluck: some info here that might be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam [17:53] ikt: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/48jPzzUP [17:54] yeah I saw [17:54] ikt: it's me [17:54] http://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca <- does not exist [17:54] so I don't know why he referenced it [17:54] only recently as well [17:54] that's the problem [17:56] ikt: they said something about git gspca respositories!?!?! [17:57] ikt: do you have an idea what that means [18:08] s4aluck: yeah [18:09] he's talking about: http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/get-your-webcam-working-gspca [18:10] off to bed, hope you get it working :) === Semitones is now known as semitones_tea [20:47] hi hobgoblin [20:48] evening [20:48] hobgoblin, quit changing nicks :O I had no idea you were elfy [20:48] lol [20:49] hobgoblin, do you like change nicks to investigate how people react to different personalities? [20:49] hello all [20:50] no pedro3005 [20:50] I have nicks which I rotate so no-on eelse can steal them ::) [20:50] hi duanedesign [20:51] hobgoblin, ... and why have them, 4-eyed? :P [20:52] pedro3005: so I can change them to suit - elfy is mischievous, piskie is bored, forestpiskie is official and you'd better watch out for the hobgoblin [20:53] hobgoblin, I guess I should register my acquired nick name === pedro3005 is now known as pedo3005 [20:53] possibly not === pedo3005 is now known as pedro3005 [20:55] ahhhh no [20:56] oh good [20:57] hobgoblin, why not? [21:05] what's the command for installing updates? [21:06] sudo apt-get upgrade [21:08] oh yeah, i was way off. thanks [21:17] hello mathay [21:18] I'm trying to install the driver for my ethernet card but the only available driver is an exe. Am I just out of luck? [21:19] ghostofmybrain_, ethernet card? these generally work on ubuntu without the need of drivers [21:20] hmmm, even my router doesn't recognize the computer plugged into it, although it recognized the computer when it was plugged into onboard ethernet port [21:21] ghostofmybrain_, what is the card? [21:21] the light is on and everything, but I assumed that if the router didn't see the computer that I needed to install a driver or something. maybe not? [21:21] netgear GA311 [21:21] ghostofmybrain_, yeah I don't think you need to install drivers [21:21] some other error going on [21:30] @ pedro3005 i think forestpiskie uses the other nicks to confuse people ;-) [21:31] that would be the sort of thing hobgoblin might do [21:31] forestpiskie lives on the forums [21:32] phillw, yeah [21:32] hobgoblin, in my head you're still not the forestpixie I know [21:32] :P [21:33] not much I can do about your head - mine has it''s own problems :p [21:35] hobgoblin, like using two apostrophes when you should use none? [21:35] :) [21:36] nope that is not my head but more about laziness ... [21:37] hobgoblin, there's no space before the ellipsis :P [21:37] pedro3005: there is birdsong duirng an eclipse [22:42] Joeb454: ping [23:45] Joeb454: poke === Flare183_ is now known as Flare183