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ubottuardchoille called the ops in #ubuntu (root_my_box)01:54
Semitonesis #ubuntu-beginners exempt from the family friendly policy?01:56
Myrttinone of the #ubuntu-* channels are, really. Enforcing it though is dependant on the ops01:58
Myrttiof the said channel01:58
persiaIt tends to be time-of-day dependent as well, depending on various ops local cultural interpretation.01:59
Semitoneshmm, ok. I guess either the ops there don't care, or they're not paying attention, but the offending party doesn't seem to be causing that much disruption01:59
Semitonesoh, I guess they do :P02:00
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:04
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:04
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:04
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:04
ubottuIn ubottu, Semitones said: !checksum is <alias> md5sum03:17
nhandler@login03:25
ubottuThe operation succeeded.03:25
vasilishttp://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/06:06
vasilishttp://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/06:06
vasilisjo06:06
dholbachgood morning07:22
ubottuIn ubottu, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/07:34
elkyubottu seems to be dropping a lot07:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:48
persiaYour very response demonstrates that sufficiently without the need for you to be explicit :)07:50
jussi01elky: a lot of connections seem to be dropping a lot, its kinda curious. Im yet to work out what is causing it, but atm I blame the new ircd :D07:54
knomehmm, why does ubottu catch the xubuntu chanserv message but not the others?08:09
jussi01knome: no idea08:09
knome;)08:09
jussi01you guys do weird things down there?08:09
knomenope.08:09
knome(really!)08:09
knomeit's the same kind of msg than from any other chan08:09
jussi01oh, I know,...08:11
jussi01pick me pick me!!08:11
jussi01knome: think about the syntax for factoid adding... ;)08:12
knomehmm !syntax?08:12
Flannelubottu: tell knome about yourself08:12
ubottuknome, please see my private message08:12
knomewhy? :P08:12
Flannelknome: Doesn't need to be ! if you direct it at ubottu in some way08:13
knomeright.08:13
jussi01factoi is blah ;)08:13
knomei'm TOTALLY lost now. :)08:13
jussi01so the "is"08:13
jussi01makes it a factoid change request08:13
knomerrright08:13
Flannel![#xubuntu] This channel08:14
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:14
Flanneldoesn't exist yet, thankfully.08:14
jussi01chanserv doesnt have rights :D08:14
Flanneljussi01: I could just see copy/paste happening though.  I know I've set all sorts of oddball things as factoids in the past.08:14
jussi01Flannel: yeah, theres some crazy stuff, thats true08:15
knomeso if i say "botname, jussi is crazy", then "!jussi" -> "crazy" ?08:15
persiaubottu: jussi is crazy08:16
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, persia said: ubottu: jussi is crazy08:16
persiaSeems to do.08:16
Flannelwell, it'd be !jussi "jussi is crazy" yes.08:16
jussi01no08:16
knome!jussi08:16
* persia isn't trying to define a factoid, actually08:16
knomewhy does the bot answer me in private?08:17
jussi01knome: the response if that factoid went through would be: is crazy08:17
persia(and hasn't even logged into the bot in > 2 years)08:17
Flannels/ "/ -> "/08:17
jussi01knome: minimises in channel traffic08:17
Flanneljussi01: except it wouldn't, it'd be "jussi is crazy" because there's no <reply>08:17
persiaBut the point is that the syntax checker catches it.08:17
Flannelof course, this is above the scope of conversation :)08:17
persiaSo:08:17
persiaubottu: This channel is logged08:18
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, persia said: ubottu: This channel is logged08:18
persiaWhereas:08:18
persiaubottu: Logs for this channel may be found at08:18
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:18
knomelogged into the bot? should i be logged in to add factoids? :P08:19
persiaAt one point.  No idea if that is true for current code.08:20
knomejussi01, ?08:22
jussi01yes08:22
jussi01@login08:22
ubottuThe operation succeeded.08:22
knomecan anybody login?08:22
jussi01only if you have been given privelidges08:23
knomehave i?08:23
jussi01no idea...08:23
knomehaha. :)08:23
jussi01try it08:23
jussi01:D08:23
knome@login08:23
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:23
jussi01honestly I havent looked recently08:23
jussi01knome: you dont.08:23
knomeokay. how can i?08:24
persia@login08:24
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:24
persiaCool.  My privleges have been dropped (which is fine, I don't need them anymore)08:24
jussi01we are planning to fix it so core ops will have privelidges.08:24
jussi01but core ops dont yet exist08:24
jussi01so untill that happens, its a bit in limbo.08:24
jussi01persia: I dont think you ever had them on this bot, no?08:25
persiajussi01: I was able to log in to "ubottu" in 2007.  I honestly haven't tried since.  I have no idea if it's the same bot.  Like I said, I don't need to log in.08:25
jussi01lots of things have happened since then :D08:26
persiaIndeed :)08:26
jussi01I do remember we dropped a big chunk when we re-did all the auth stuff08:26
persiaThat's probably when I fell out.08:26
jussi01and cripes, has she been around that long?08:26
persiaBut since I stopped being active in #ubuntu back in Dapper or so, it really doesn't matter :)08:26
FlannelAnyone know anything about "Dancing-Bot"?08:31
jussi01no...08:31
jussi01where?08:31
Flannel#u08:31
jussi01I PM'ed.08:33
FlannelTheres three08:35
Flanneler08:35
FlannelTheres two *possible* hits in the BT (same ISP)08:36
Flannelbut nothing really bad happened in those either.08:37
jussi01if it isnt making any trouble, lets leave it08:37
=== jcarter is now known as highvoltage
bazhangfasta seems to be trolling13:06
jpdsDid comcast just fail?13:28
Picineat13:29
bazhangone can only speculate at this point13:29
jpdsAnd again.13:30
ubottuIn ubottu, Some_Person said: bing is /me sets mode +b $USER13:55
Myrttimarcus_: hi14:53
marcus_hi14:53
Myrttiwhazzup?14:54
marcus_nothing special. just wondered if there is a special channel for ubuntu admin/server related tasks as the regular #ubuntu is quite crowded.14:55
Myrttiah, that would be #ubuntu-server probably14:55
Myrttialthough #ubuntu can answer your questions too14:56
marcus_okay, thanks for the info14:56
marcus_asked there. they pointed me here.14:56
Picireally? /me scrolls up14:56
PiciOh, I think it was a misunderstanding. I think he tought you were looking for the people who admin the irc channels.14:57
marcus_ah, okay.15:02
marcus_np. heading over to -server15:02
Myrttihumdidumdidum15:37
Myrttihm, are the webchat users just let in now without the proxy check?16:09
Myrttimy backlog doesn't have any exceptions set16:11
Myrttiah, it uses invitations now16:12
Myrttithat's handy16:12
geniiWhoa. why didn't floodbots kick in?17:28
Picithey claimed they were in emergency mode /me looks17:29
jussi01yes, I know and Im doing something about it.17:49
ubottuIn ubottu, NickServ said: This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.17:51
ubottuIn ubottu, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/17:51
persiajussi01: If/when you have time, are there any reasons to permit two-word factoids?  Both of these messages would go away if they were not permitted.17:59
Pici!es | persia17:59
ubottupersia: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.17:59
Picipersia: Anyway, ubottu was getting triggered because the sentence had 'is' in it. "this channel" is "something"18:00
SealedWithAKissikonia, I'm sorry. I deserved to be kicked.18:00
persiaI know.18:00
ikoniaI know you did18:00
ikoniathat's why you where removed from the channel18:00
jussi01!-ops | persia18:00
ubottupersia: ops aliases: kops, op, calltheops, call the ops - added by Seveas on 2006-07-29 12:54:12 - last edited by jussi01 on 2010-03-13 10:03:1118:00
ikoniaI'm not sure what you're playing at - but can you please control yourself in the #ubuntu channels18:00
SealedWithAKissikonia, but seriously. I screwed up twice there. It was worth being kicked.18:00
persiajussi01: Ah, I see :(18:01
ikoniaSealedWithAKiss: please talk to staff in #freenode and stop discussing it in #ubuntu18:01
SealedWithAKissikonia, oh I'm back again. Okay then I'm done now.18:02
ikoniaSealedWithAKiss: once you have resolved you're password issues out and you're confident you can control your language, you're welcome to re-join #ubuntu18:02
SealedWithAKissikonia, okay then thanks.18:02
ikoniaSealedWithAKiss: ok, then if there is nothing else needed from the operator team, please leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu when you are ready18:03
jpdsNice.18:06
jussi01she is on her way back18:06
ubottuIn ubottu, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/18:08
jussi01argh. Im real sorry, Ill probably have to restart the bot one more time. let me play a little and make sure its only one more time.18:11
jussi01or maybe not. lets see.18:12
persiaSo, I checked the factoids : http://paste.ubuntu.com/396290/ are my results.  There are 8 items that have spaces that don't have nospace equivalents with the same spelling.  None are unique factoids.18:12
persia(and ありがとう is better transliterated as arigatou)18:13
jussi01persia: please put all the info youve found into a bug.18:15
persiajussi01: This is something worth fixing then?18:15
jussi01persia: why not. I cant currently see any usecase for 2 word factoids.18:16
persiaThat's what I was looking for :)  Filing a bug.18:16
jussi01it would also stop these people who talk to ubottu's conversations from coming here...18:16
Picipersia: I'm sorry, I misread your original question. I thought you said two *letter* factoids.18:17
persiaPici: Ah.  'es' makes lots more sense in that context.  I wondered what you were demonstrating.18:17
jussi01that should be the final one for today, my apologies for the spam.18:19
persiaubottu: Tell everyone about bug #539757, and complain about your inadequacy.18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 539757 in ubuntu-bots "factoids should be limited to a single word" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53975718:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:24
geniiHehe18:24
ubottuCalmvsKhaos called the ops in #ubuntu (auxi reminded over and over about !ubuntu-es)18:25
jussi01o/18:27
jussi01SO, theres a super shiny new feature on ubottu.18:27
jussi01Please report bugs if something is borked or there is a regression.18:27
jussi01(or you just dont like it)18:28
jussi01it looks like this: [20:28:14] <ubottu:ubottu> Please comment on the ban of *!*@85.23.70.129 in ##jussi01, use: @comment 24030 <comment>18:28
jussi01Our lovely friend will now nag you for a comment after a ban or removal.18:28
mneptokwhy #jussi01 and not this channel?18:30
jussi01Now there is one thing we are still thinking about: currently it nags on removals and bans/quiets. We are thinking about removing the the nag for removals, thoughts on this are welcome.18:31
Picimneptok: I think its "please comment on the ban of IP in #thechannel"18:31
jussi01mneptok: that was a test example.18:31
jussi01persia: is correct.18:31
geniiNo one should ever really be banned from -ops I don't think, anyhow. Unless k-lined....18:31
jussi01Pici: evem18:31
Myrttioh god I hate that feature already18:32
Myrttiso now the removal message won't suffice for a comment?18:33
jussi01Myrtti: yes of course it will. if you use a removal message, then just dont answer the bot. Unless you want to add more info.18:34
Myrttiright.18:37
PiciMyrtti: I'd file a bug18:37
jussi01Hiya Jordan_U18:40
jussi01whats up?18:41
Jordan_Ujussi01: Hi, just noticing a lot of people coming into #ubuntu speaking spanish.18:41
Jordan_UI wasn't going to say anything unless sanreikaj persisted also.18:42
ubottuIn ubottu, rye said: !updown is The service that provides access to the file downloads via the web interface19:00
PiciUm. What?19:00
genii!info ifupdown19:01
ubottuifupdown (source: ifupdown): high level tools to configure network interfaces. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.8ubuntu21 (karmic), package size 57 kB, installed size 264 kB19:01
PiciI know what ifupdown is, but what does that have to do with file downloads on a web interface?19:02
geniiPici: I didn't know about ifupdown, just checking !info on it, shoulda done it in pm with bot :)19:03
persiaMight be a u1 thing, based on the requestor.19:03
persiaMaybe ask in #ubuntu-one ?19:03
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16))20:40
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: ubottu: virus =~ s#A/V#Antivirus#20:47
ikoniapeepers open please in #ubunu DeaemonFC is in20:58
ikoniahopefully he'll get on just fine20:58
elkyso, um, pingfloyd discovered memoserv23:03
elkyHe left me a memo instructing the #ubuntu entity to somehow copulate with itself.23:04
mneptokelky: he's a charming fellow.23:11
rwwHola. I'm probably missing something here, but how come webchat users can speak in #ubuntu if there's a banforward on their hostmask and the floodbots aren't setting exempts any more? Do banforwards not stop people from talking if they're in the channel? (iirc, bans do, right?)23:12
rww(I would have asked in #freenode, but I figure #ubuntu is a complex setup so the people in charge of it would probably know better :)23:13
MyrttiI tested it earlier today and the floodbots invite the users in23:15
MyrttiI don't know if that answers your question properly23:16
elkyoh goodie, we're trialling a fix for the banlist leakage?23:17
* elky goes to check the mailing list23:18
rwwMyrtti: I noticed that. I'm not seeing how the invite overrides the +b, though23:18
rwwpresumably because I'm missing something. As far as I can tell, if you invite someone who's banned from a channel to that channel, they don't get in, and can't speak if they are in.23:18
rwwbut in #ubuntu, that doesn't happen =/23:19
Myrttiwhich is why I said I don't know if that answers your question :-/23:19
rwwthe /topic in #ubuntu-proxy-users is cut off, btw23:22
rwwalright, I have to go to work, so I'll /part to avoid idling. If anyone figures out the answer to my question, please feel free to PM me :)23:50

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