[01:56] <Semitones> is #ubuntu-beginners exempt from the family friendly policy?
[01:58] <Myrtti> none of the #ubuntu-* channels are, really. Enforcing it though is dependant on the ops
[01:58] <Myrtti> of the said channel
[01:59] <persia> It tends to be time-of-day dependent as well, depending on various ops local cultural interpretation.
[01:59] <Semitones> hmm, ok. I guess either the ops there don't care, or they're not paying attention, but the offending party doesn't seem to be causing that much disruption
[02:00] <Semitones> oh, I guess they do :P
[03:25] <nhandler> @login
[06:06] <vasilis> http://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/
[06:06] <vasilis> http://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/
[06:06] <vasilis> jo
[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <elky> ubottu seems to be dropping a lot
[07:50] <persia> Your very response demonstrates that sufficiently without the need for you to be explicit :)
[07:54] <jussi01> elky: a lot of connections seem to be dropping a lot, its kinda curious. Im yet to work out what is causing it, but atm I blame the new ircd :D
[08:09] <knome> hmm, why does ubottu catch the xubuntu chanserv message but not the others?
[08:09] <jussi01> knome: no idea
[08:09] <knome> ;)
[08:09] <jussi01> you guys do weird things down there?
[08:09] <knome> nope.
[08:09] <knome> (really!)
[08:09] <knome> it's the same kind of msg than from any other chan
[08:11] <jussi01> oh, I know,...
[08:11] <jussi01> pick me pick me!!
[08:12] <jussi01> knome: think about the syntax for factoid adding... ;)
[08:12] <knome> hmm !syntax?
[08:12] <Flannel> ubottu: tell knome about yourself
[08:12] <knome> why? :P
[08:13] <Flannel> knome: Doesn't need to be ! if you direct it at ubottu in some way
[08:13] <knome> right.
[08:13] <jussi01> factoi is blah ;)
[08:13] <knome> i'm TOTALLY lost now. :)
[08:13] <jussi01> so the "is"
[08:13] <jussi01> makes it a factoid change request
[08:13] <knome> rrright
[08:14] <Flannel> ![#xubuntu] This channel
[08:14] <Flannel> doesn't exist yet, thankfully.
[08:14] <jussi01> chanserv doesnt have rights :D
[08:14] <Flannel> jussi01: I could just see copy/paste happening though.  I know I've set all sorts of oddball things as factoids in the past.
[08:15] <jussi01> Flannel: yeah, theres some crazy stuff, thats true
[08:15] <knome> so if i say "botname, jussi is crazy", then "!jussi" -> "crazy" ?
[08:16] <persia> ubottu: jussi is crazy
[08:16] <persia> Seems to do.
[08:16] <Flannel> well, it'd be !jussi "jussi is crazy" yes.
[08:16] <jussi01> no
[08:16] <knome> !jussi
[08:16]  * persia isn't trying to define a factoid, actually
[08:17] <knome> why does the bot answer me in private?
[08:17] <jussi01> knome: the response if that factoid went through would be: is crazy
[08:17] <persia> (and hasn't even logged into the bot in > 2 years)
[08:17] <Flannel> s/ "/ -> "/
[08:17] <jussi01> knome: minimises in channel traffic
[08:17] <Flannel> jussi01: except it wouldn't, it'd be "jussi is crazy" because there's no <reply>
[08:17] <persia> But the point is that the syntax checker catches it.
[08:17] <Flannel> of course, this is above the scope of conversation :)
[08:17] <persia> So:
[08:18] <persia> ubottu: This channel is logged
[08:18] <persia> Whereas:
[08:18] <persia> ubottu: Logs for this channel may be found at
[08:19] <knome> logged into the bot? should i be logged in to add factoids? :P
[08:20] <persia> At one point.  No idea if that is true for current code.
[08:22] <knome> jussi01, ?
[08:22] <jussi01> yes
[08:22] <jussi01> @login
[08:22] <knome> can anybody login?
[08:23] <jussi01> only if you have been given privelidges
[08:23] <knome> have i?
[08:23] <jussi01> no idea...
[08:23] <knome> haha. :)
[08:23] <jussi01> try it
[08:23] <jussi01> :D
[08:23] <knome> @login
[08:23] <jussi01> honestly I havent looked recently
[08:23] <jussi01> knome: you dont.
[08:24] <knome> okay. how can i?
[08:24] <persia> @login
[08:24] <persia> Cool.  My privleges have been dropped (which is fine, I don't need them anymore)
[08:24] <jussi01> we are planning to fix it so core ops will have privelidges.
[08:24] <jussi01> but core ops dont yet exist
[08:24] <jussi01> so untill that happens, its a bit in limbo.
[08:25] <jussi01> persia: I dont think you ever had them on this bot, no?
[08:25] <persia> jussi01: I was able to log in to "ubottu" in 2007.  I honestly haven't tried since.  I have no idea if it's the same bot.  Like I said, I don't need to log in.
[08:26] <jussi01> lots of things have happened since then :D
[08:26] <persia> Indeed :)
[08:26] <jussi01> I do remember we dropped a big chunk when we re-did all the auth stuff
[08:26] <persia> That's probably when I fell out.
[08:26] <jussi01> and cripes, has she been around that long?
[08:26] <persia> But since I stopped being active in #ubuntu back in Dapper or so, it really doesn't matter :)
[08:31] <Flannel> Anyone know anything about "Dancing-Bot"?
[08:31] <jussi01> no...
[08:31] <jussi01> where?
[08:31] <Flannel> #u
[08:33] <jussi01> I PM'ed.
[08:35] <Flannel> Theres three
[08:35] <Flannel> er
[08:36] <Flannel> Theres two *possible* hits in the BT (same ISP)
[08:37] <Flannel> but nothing really bad happened in those either.
[08:37] <jussi01> if it isnt making any trouble, lets leave it
[13:06] <bazhang> fasta seems to be trolling
[13:28] <jpds> Did comcast just fail?
[13:29] <Pici> neat
[13:29] <bazhang> one can only speculate at this point
[13:30] <jpds> And again.
[14:53] <Myrtti> marcus_: hi
[14:53] <marcus_> hi
[14:54] <Myrtti> whazzup?
[14:55] <marcus_> nothing special. just wondered if there is a special channel for ubuntu admin/server related tasks as the regular #ubuntu is quite crowded.
[14:55] <Myrtti> ah, that would be #ubuntu-server probably
[14:56] <Myrtti> although #ubuntu can answer your questions too
[14:56] <marcus_> okay, thanks for the info
[14:56] <marcus_> asked there. they pointed me here.
[14:56] <Pici> really? /me scrolls up
[14:57] <Pici> Oh, I think it was a misunderstanding. I think he tought you were looking for the people who admin the irc channels.
[15:02] <marcus_> ah, okay.
[15:02] <marcus_> np. heading over to -server
[15:37] <Myrtti> humdidumdidum
[16:09] <Myrtti> hm, are the webchat users just let in now without the proxy check?
[16:11] <Myrtti> my backlog doesn't have any exceptions set
[16:12] <Myrtti> ah, it uses invitations now
[16:12] <Myrtti> that's handy
[17:28] <genii> Whoa. why didn't floodbots kick in?
[17:29] <Pici> they claimed they were in emergency mode /me looks
[17:49] <jussi01> yes, I know and Im doing something about it.
[17:59] <persia> jussi01: If/when you have time, are there any reasons to permit two-word factoids?  Both of these messages would go away if they were not permitted.
[17:59] <Pici> !es | persia
[18:00] <Pici> persia: Anyway, ubottu was getting triggered because the sentence had 'is' in it. "this channel" is "something"
[18:00] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, I'm sorry. I deserved to be kicked.
[18:00] <persia> I know.
[18:00] <ikonia> I know you did
[18:00] <ikonia> that's why you where removed from the channel
[18:00] <jussi01> !-ops | persia
[18:00] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you're playing at - but can you please control yourself in the #ubuntu channels
[18:00] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, but seriously. I screwed up twice there. It was worth being kicked.
[18:01] <persia> jussi01: Ah, I see :(
[18:01] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: please talk to staff in #freenode and stop discussing it in #ubuntu
[18:02] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, oh I'm back again. Okay then I'm done now.
[18:02] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: once you have resolved you're password issues out and you're confident you can control your language, you're welcome to re-join #ubuntu
[18:02] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, okay then thanks.
[18:03] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: ok, then if there is nothing else needed from the operator team, please leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu when you are ready
[18:06] <jpds> Nice.
[18:06] <jussi01> she is on her way back
[18:11] <jussi01> argh. Im real sorry, Ill probably have to restart the bot one more time. let me play a little and make sure its only one more time.
[18:12] <jussi01> or maybe not. lets see.
[18:12] <persia> So, I checked the factoids : http://paste.ubuntu.com/396290/ are my results.  There are 8 items that have spaces that don't have nospace equivalents with the same spelling.  None are unique factoids.
[18:13] <persia> (and ありがとう is better transliterated as arigatou)
[18:15] <jussi01> persia: please put all the info youve found into a bug.
[18:15] <persia> jussi01: This is something worth fixing then?
[18:16] <jussi01> persia: why not. I cant currently see any usecase for 2 word factoids.
[18:16] <persia> That's what I was looking for :)  Filing a bug.
[18:16] <jussi01> it would also stop these people who talk to ubottu's conversations from coming here...
[18:17] <Pici> persia: I'm sorry, I misread your original question. I thought you said two *letter* factoids.
[18:17] <persia> Pici: Ah.  'es' makes lots more sense in that context.  I wondered what you were demonstrating.
[18:19] <jussi01> that should be the final one for today, my apologies for the spam.
[18:24] <persia> ubottu: Tell everyone about bug #539757, and complain about your inadequacy.
[18:24] <genii> Hehe
[18:27] <jussi01> o/
[18:27] <jussi01> SO, theres a super shiny new feature on ubottu.
[18:27] <jussi01> Please report bugs if something is borked or there is a regression.
[18:28] <jussi01> (or you just dont like it)
[18:28] <jussi01> it looks like this: [20:28:14] <ubottu:ubottu> Please comment on the ban of *!*@85.23.70.129 in ##jussi01, use: @comment 24030 <comment>
[18:28] <jussi01> Our lovely friend will now nag you for a comment after a ban or removal.
[18:30] <mneptok> why #jussi01 and not this channel?
[18:31] <jussi01> Now there is one thing we are still thinking about: currently it nags on removals and bans/quiets. We are thinking about removing the the nag for removals, thoughts on this are welcome.
[18:31] <Pici> mneptok: I think its "please comment on the ban of IP in #thechannel"
[18:31] <jussi01> mneptok: that was a test example.
[18:31] <jussi01> persia: is correct.
[18:31] <genii> No one should ever really be banned from -ops I don't think, anyhow. Unless k-lined....
[18:31] <jussi01> Pici: evem
[18:32] <Myrtti> oh god I hate that feature already
[18:33] <Myrtti> so now the removal message won't suffice for a comment?
[18:34] <jussi01> Myrtti: yes of course it will. if you use a removal message, then just dont answer the bot. Unless you want to add more info.
[18:37] <Myrtti> right.
[18:37] <Pici> Myrtti: I'd file a bug
[18:40] <jussi01> Hiya Jordan_U
[18:41] <jussi01> whats up?
[18:41] <Jordan_U> jussi01: Hi, just noticing a lot of people coming into #ubuntu speaking spanish.
[18:42] <Jordan_U> I wasn't going to say anything unless sanreikaj persisted also.
[19:00] <Pici> Um. What?
[19:01] <genii> !info ifupdown
[19:02] <Pici> I know what ifupdown is, but what does that have to do with file downloads on a web interface?
[19:03] <genii> Pici: I didn't know about ifupdown, just checking !info on it, shoulda done it in pm with bot :)
[19:03] <persia> Might be a u1 thing, based on the requestor.
[19:03] <persia> Maybe ask in #ubuntu-one ?
[20:58] <ikonia> peepers open please in #ubunu DeaemonFC is in
[20:58] <ikonia> hopefully he'll get on just fine
[23:03] <elky> so, um, pingfloyd discovered memoserv
[23:04] <elky> He left me a memo instructing the #ubuntu entity to somehow copulate with itself.
[23:11] <mneptok> elky: he's a charming fellow.
[23:12] <rww> Hola. I'm probably missing something here, but how come webchat users can speak in #ubuntu if there's a banforward on their hostmask and the floodbots aren't setting exempts any more? Do banforwards not stop people from talking if they're in the channel? (iirc, bans do, right?)
[23:13] <rww> (I would have asked in #freenode, but I figure #ubuntu is a complex setup so the people in charge of it would probably know better :)
[23:15] <Myrtti> I tested it earlier today and the floodbots invite the users in
[23:16] <Myrtti> I don't know if that answers your question properly
[23:17] <elky> oh goodie, we're trialling a fix for the banlist leakage?
[23:18]  * elky goes to check the mailing list
[23:18] <rww> Myrtti: I noticed that. I'm not seeing how the invite overrides the +b, though
[23:18] <rww> presumably because I'm missing something. As far as I can tell, if you invite someone who's banned from a channel to that channel, they don't get in, and can't speak if they are in.
[23:19] <rww> but in #ubuntu, that doesn't happen =/
[23:19] <Myrtti> which is why I said I don't know if that answers your question :-/
[23:22] <rww> the /topic in #ubuntu-proxy-users is cut off, btw
[23:50] <rww> alright, I have to go to work, so I'll /part to avoid idling. If anyone figures out the answer to my question, please feel free to PM me :)