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persiaScottL: I'll take a quick look: I suspect we can get audacity, fontforge, gtick, and qsynth updated if there's anything useful.  rakarrack would need testing and strong rationale.00:30
persiaThe same logic would apply to outdatedandlocalinB00:31
ScottLI'd be happy to make whatever necessary bugs are required01:43
ScottLsince we have trouble getting any testing done, then I'll make a reminder to reevaluate rakarrack after lucid is released01:44
ScottLoh, and persia, if you don't have time to look at audacity, etc I'll be happy to do that as well to see what's improved01:44
ScottLas for a 'outdated and local changes', the majority didn't seem to be huge changes (at least judging from version numbers) and I thought since they would require changes they would be more difficult to get FF exception approval01:46
persiaIt's the case where there's a change to the debian revision, but not the upstream version that tends to interest me most.01:47
persiaThe upload happened for a reason, and it usually closes a bug.01:48
persia(or several bugs)01:48
persiaSo it's a matter of checking if the bugs that got closed are interesting01:48
persiaFor example, if I look at audacious-plugins01:50
persiaThe Debian changes are listed at http://changelog.debian.net/audacious-plugins01:50
persiaThis looks fairly serious, but audacious-plugins doesn't appear at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ (launchpad records) or http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi (rebuild test), so it's actually not important.01:51
persiacdrdao appears to be an ubuntu -> debian merge, so no worries.01:52
persiaConversely, audacity fixes a track export bug.01:53
ScottLhmmm, didn't think of that (closing bugs)   that makes a whole lot of sense and is extremely useful02:00
persiaYeah.  The development viewpoint tends to be very different than the marketing viewpoint.  If something small changes in something that doesn't usually get updated, it's often critical.02:01
persiaIf something big changes in something that gets updated regularly, it's often uninteresting because there's an even chance it introduces as many issues as it resolves.02:02
persiaBut when promoting stuff, the small rare changes are uninteresting, and the big flashy features are exciting and can garner several paragraphs.02:03
ScottLpersia, do you ever sleep?  most time I see you active online02:05
persiaI sleep.  I'm just not diurnal, and I travel not infrequently, so it may create the wrong impression based on various assumptions.02:07
persiaNote that it look me > 7 hours to get back to you earlier, which is the sort of thing that may be an indicator of when I'm away.02:07
persias/look/took/02:08
persia(being away isn't always sleep, but sleep is always being away)02:09
* abogani waves09:49
ScottLhi abogani, i got delayed a bit in testing kernels this weekend but I will try to start tonight11:05
ScottLmy wife got sick this weekend, luckily I haven't so far and I'm really hoping I don't ;)11:06
* ScottL is going to work will log on again when I get there11:07
aboganiScottL: Don't worry about kernels! Take care of your wife instead! :-)12:07
ScottL_abogani: she puked all day saturday, slept most of Sunday and is right as rain yesterday...I just hope I dont' get it ;)12:28
* abogani don't know what means "right as rain"...12:29
aboganiScottL: ^12:31
persiaabogani: "In good health"12:32
aboganipersia: Ah Thanks!12:32
aboganiScottL: So I'm happy for your wife! :-)12:32
* abogani wondering if there are news about Studio lead (tech and in general)..12:48
ScottL_I have some thoughts about team positions along with community involvement but I'd like to develop them a little more before presenting them13:40
ScottL_perhaps by the end of this weekend I'll something a little more cohesive and tangible13:40
persiaI'm extremely opinionated about that sort of thing.  I'd love to critique something once you have it ready.13:41
ScottL_Capital!  Feedback, especially critical feedback, would be most appreciated.14:30
persiaI can certainly provide that :)14:32

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