persia | ScottL: I'll take a quick look: I suspect we can get audacity, fontforge, gtick, and qsynth updated if there's anything useful. rakarrack would need testing and strong rationale. | 00:30 |
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persia | The same logic would apply to outdatedandlocalinB | 00:31 |
ScottL | I'd be happy to make whatever necessary bugs are required | 01:43 |
ScottL | since we have trouble getting any testing done, then I'll make a reminder to reevaluate rakarrack after lucid is released | 01:44 |
ScottL | oh, and persia, if you don't have time to look at audacity, etc I'll be happy to do that as well to see what's improved | 01:44 |
ScottL | as for a 'outdated and local changes', the majority didn't seem to be huge changes (at least judging from version numbers) and I thought since they would require changes they would be more difficult to get FF exception approval | 01:46 |
persia | It's the case where there's a change to the debian revision, but not the upstream version that tends to interest me most. | 01:47 |
persia | The upload happened for a reason, and it usually closes a bug. | 01:48 |
persia | (or several bugs) | 01:48 |
persia | So it's a matter of checking if the bugs that got closed are interesting | 01:48 |
persia | For example, if I look at audacious-plugins | 01:50 |
persia | The Debian changes are listed at http://changelog.debian.net/audacious-plugins | 01:50 |
persia | This looks fairly serious, but audacious-plugins doesn't appear at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ (launchpad records) or http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi (rebuild test), so it's actually not important. | 01:51 |
persia | cdrdao appears to be an ubuntu -> debian merge, so no worries. | 01:52 |
persia | Conversely, audacity fixes a track export bug. | 01:53 |
ScottL | hmmm, didn't think of that (closing bugs) that makes a whole lot of sense and is extremely useful | 02:00 |
persia | Yeah. The development viewpoint tends to be very different than the marketing viewpoint. If something small changes in something that doesn't usually get updated, it's often critical. | 02:01 |
persia | If something big changes in something that gets updated regularly, it's often uninteresting because there's an even chance it introduces as many issues as it resolves. | 02:02 |
persia | But when promoting stuff, the small rare changes are uninteresting, and the big flashy features are exciting and can garner several paragraphs. | 02:03 |
ScottL | persia, do you ever sleep? most time I see you active online | 02:05 |
persia | I sleep. I'm just not diurnal, and I travel not infrequently, so it may create the wrong impression based on various assumptions. | 02:07 |
persia | Note that it look me > 7 hours to get back to you earlier, which is the sort of thing that may be an indicator of when I'm away. | 02:07 |
persia | s/look/took/ | 02:08 |
persia | (being away isn't always sleep, but sleep is always being away) | 02:09 |
* abogani waves | 09:49 | |
ScottL | hi abogani, i got delayed a bit in testing kernels this weekend but I will try to start tonight | 11:05 |
ScottL | my wife got sick this weekend, luckily I haven't so far and I'm really hoping I don't ;) | 11:06 |
* ScottL is going to work will log on again when I get there | 11:07 | |
abogani | ScottL: Don't worry about kernels! Take care of your wife instead! :-) | 12:07 |
ScottL_ | abogani: she puked all day saturday, slept most of Sunday and is right as rain yesterday...I just hope I dont' get it ;) | 12:28 |
* abogani don't know what means "right as rain"... | 12:29 | |
abogani | ScottL: ^ | 12:31 |
persia | abogani: "In good health" | 12:32 |
abogani | persia: Ah Thanks! | 12:32 |
abogani | ScottL: So I'm happy for your wife! :-) | 12:32 |
* abogani wondering if there are news about Studio lead (tech and in general).. | 12:48 | |
ScottL_ | I have some thoughts about team positions along with community involvement but I'd like to develop them a little more before presenting them | 13:40 |
ScottL_ | perhaps by the end of this weekend I'll something a little more cohesive and tangible | 13:40 |
persia | I'm extremely opinionated about that sort of thing. I'd love to critique something once you have it ready. | 13:41 |
ScottL_ | Capital! Feedback, especially critical feedback, would be most appreciated. | 14:30 |
persia | I can certainly provide that :) | 14:32 |
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