[00:30] <persia> ScottL: I'll take a quick look: I suspect we can get audacity, fontforge, gtick, and qsynth updated if there's anything useful.  rakarrack would need testing and strong rationale.
[00:31] <persia> The same logic would apply to outdatedandlocalinB
[01:43] <ScottL> I'd be happy to make whatever necessary bugs are required
[01:44] <ScottL> since we have trouble getting any testing done, then I'll make a reminder to reevaluate rakarrack after lucid is released
[01:44] <ScottL> oh, and persia, if you don't have time to look at audacity, etc I'll be happy to do that as well to see what's improved
[01:46] <ScottL> as for a 'outdated and local changes', the majority didn't seem to be huge changes (at least judging from version numbers) and I thought since they would require changes they would be more difficult to get FF exception approval
[01:47] <persia> It's the case where there's a change to the debian revision, but not the upstream version that tends to interest me most.
[01:48] <persia> The upload happened for a reason, and it usually closes a bug.
[01:48] <persia> (or several bugs)
[01:48] <persia> So it's a matter of checking if the bugs that got closed are interesting
[01:50] <persia> For example, if I look at audacious-plugins
[01:50] <persia> The Debian changes are listed at http://changelog.debian.net/audacious-plugins
[01:51] <persia> This looks fairly serious, but audacious-plugins doesn't appear at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ (launchpad records) or http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi (rebuild test), so it's actually not important.
[01:52] <persia> cdrdao appears to be an ubuntu -> debian merge, so no worries.
[01:53] <persia> Conversely, audacity fixes a track export bug.
[02:00] <ScottL> hmmm, didn't think of that (closing bugs)   that makes a whole lot of sense and is extremely useful
[02:01] <persia> Yeah.  The development viewpoint tends to be very different than the marketing viewpoint.  If something small changes in something that doesn't usually get updated, it's often critical.
[02:02] <persia> If something big changes in something that gets updated regularly, it's often uninteresting because there's an even chance it introduces as many issues as it resolves.
[02:03] <persia> But when promoting stuff, the small rare changes are uninteresting, and the big flashy features are exciting and can garner several paragraphs.
[02:05] <ScottL> persia, do you ever sleep?  most time I see you active online
[02:07] <persia> I sleep.  I'm just not diurnal, and I travel not infrequently, so it may create the wrong impression based on various assumptions.
[02:07] <persia> Note that it look me > 7 hours to get back to you earlier, which is the sort of thing that may be an indicator of when I'm away.
[02:08] <persia> s/look/took/
[02:09] <persia> (being away isn't always sleep, but sleep is always being away)
[09:49]  * abogani waves
[11:05] <ScottL> hi abogani, i got delayed a bit in testing kernels this weekend but I will try to start tonight
[11:06] <ScottL> my wife got sick this weekend, luckily I haven't so far and I'm really hoping I don't ;)
[11:07]  * ScottL is going to work will log on again when I get there
[12:07] <abogani> ScottL: Don't worry about kernels! Take care of your wife instead! :-)
[12:28] <ScottL_> abogani: she puked all day saturday, slept most of Sunday and is right as rain yesterday...I just hope I dont' get it ;)
[12:29]  * abogani don't know what means "right as rain"...
[12:31] <abogani> ScottL: ^
[12:32] <persia> abogani: "In good health"
[12:32] <abogani> persia: Ah Thanks!
[12:32] <abogani> ScottL: So I'm happy for your wife! :-)
[12:48]  * abogani wondering if there are news about Studio lead (tech and in general)..
[13:40] <ScottL_> I have some thoughts about team positions along with community involvement but I'd like to develop them a little more before presenting them
[13:40] <ScottL_> perhaps by the end of this weekend I'll something a little more cohesive and tangible
[13:41] <persia> I'm extremely opinionated about that sort of thing.  I'd love to critique something once you have it ready.
[14:30] <ScottL_> Capital!  Feedback, especially critical feedback, would be most appreciated.
[14:32] <persia> I can certainly provide that :)