| Scorcher | is there a place that talks about the changes to the new ubuntu studio? | 01:25 |
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| Scorcher | also how does the upgrade work iin april. When I upgrade will I have to download studio later? | 01:26 |
| Scorcher | f | 01:34 |
| Scorcher | kompute you got any idea? | 01:44 |
| holstein | hey there Scorcher | 01:59 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 01:59 |
| holstein | you would just do an upgrade | 01:59 |
| holstein | from karmic to lucid | 02:00 |
| holstein | and whatever packages can be updated will be | 02:00 |
| holstein | which should include all you studio meta packages | 02:00 |
| holstein | your* | 02:00 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 02:00 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 02:00 |
| holstein | take a look at this link for the meta-pacakges for ubuntustudio | 02:01 |
| Scorcher | well I have studio 9.10 now | 02:15 |
| Scorcher | also, how do I get th -rt kernal back? My ubuntu upgrades kernals eaxh time on comes out | 02:17 |
| Scorcher | I am assumeing I. Need to download again and select. It through grub | 02:17 |
| holstein | Scorcher: the only change really is grub2 | 02:23 |
| holstein | !grub2 | 02:23 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 02:23 |
| holstein | you can decide how to deal with the kernel order | 02:23 |
| holstein | i just set the default kernel to the RT one | 02:23 |
| holstein | in grub | 02:23 |
| rlameiro | hi holstein | 02:24 |
| holstein | and if i have grub display them | 02:24 |
| holstein | and if i get a kernel update | 02:24 |
| rlameiro | man you just missed the OSM live pd lesson | 02:24 |
| holstein | i just change the default in grub | 02:24 |
| holstein | rlameiro: I KNOW | 02:24 |
| holstein | im pissed | 02:24 |
| rlameiro | ..... | 02:24 |
| rlameiro | i will make more | 02:24 |
| holstein | next time ) | 02:24 |
| rlameiro | dont worry | 02:24 |
| holstein | :) | 02:24 |
| holstein | looking forward to it | 02:25 |
| holstein | are you recording a screencast or something? | 02:25 |
| rlameiro | was a live session | 02:25 |
| holstein | OK | 02:25 |
| rlameiro | i didnt record it | 02:26 |
| holstein | i see the mp3 of the stream | 02:26 |
| holstein | link | 02:26 |
| holstein | in OSM | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | but i will make some fater | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | grab it if you want | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | :D | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | well | 02:26 |
| holstein | i will | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | going to sleep no | 02:26 |
| holstein | nite | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | now* | 02:26 |
| rlameiro | cya | 02:26 |
| giacomo_c | hi | 05:48 |
| giacomo_c | anyone know of an easy way to go from a regular ubuntu install to ubuntu studio? like, can i just change the repos and do a dist-upgrade? | 05:53 |
| holstein | hey giacomo_c | 06:00 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 06:00 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 06:00 |
| holstein | check that linke | 06:00 |
| holstein | link* | 06:00 |
| holstein | the directions for hardy work the same | 06:01 |
| holstein | you can also do sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio | 06:01 |
| holstein | OR search ubuntustudio in synaptic | 06:01 |
| holstein | and read, and get an idea about what each studio package does | 06:01 |
| holstein | ALSO, if your planning on doing audio recording | 06:02 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 06:02 |
| giacomo_c | ah cool... i have all this software, like jack and some programs for recording, drum machines, etc, but i want to run them with a realtime kernel, and the last time i compiled my own, it ended up messing up my ubuntu install | 06:10 |
| holstein | good for you | 06:10 |
| holstein | i havnet compiled a kernel yet | 06:11 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get isntall linux-rt | 06:11 |
| holstein | that gets you the realtime kernel | 06:11 |
| holstein | !grub2 | 06:11 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 06:11 |
| holstein | thats the newer grub info | 06:11 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, i mean, it was all kinda crazy to me, and i probably couldn't do it again without some sort of guide, but in the end, it messed up some crap with the offical repos, and i ended up just upgrading to karmic without recompiling a new kernel and just using the distro's | 06:12 |
| holstein | -- /join #opensourcemusicians | 06:13 |
| holstein | you might be interested in the podcast there | 06:13 |
| giacomo_c | i recently reinstalled grub, im not sure if i went with grub2 or not though... (i had to do a reinstall of xp and it removed grub) | 06:13 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, i was looking for a good irc room for linux musicians | 06:13 |
| holstein | OH | 06:13 |
| holstein | you might still have the old grub then | 06:14 |
| holstein | if it was an updated from jaunty | 06:14 |
| giacomo_c | i bet i do | 06:14 |
| holstein | which is fine | 06:14 |
| giacomo_c | legacy or whatev it was called i think | 06:14 |
| giacomo_c | well, what do you recommend for recording? i've messed around with ardour some, and it seems like one of the best bets | 06:15 |
| holstein | yup | 06:15 |
| holstein | ardour is awesome | 06:16 |
| holstein | the proprietary renoise is nice too | 06:16 |
| holstein | ardour will get MIDI in 3.x | 06:16 |
| giacomo_c | ah, i've never messed with midi | 06:17 |
| giacomo_c | i have a keyboard that does midi, but right now, im just working with a laptop that i want to record via microphones | 06:17 |
| holstein | you have an interface? | 06:17 |
| holstein | or the internal card? | 06:18 |
| giacomo_c | haha, well, the laptop's internal card is busted, so i've been using an external usb thing that came with my plantronics headphones | 06:18 |
| holstein | sounds like a plan | 06:18 |
| giacomo_c | v0v, i do with what i can atm... im in the process of buying parts for building a new computer, and i want to get a nice sound card for that | 06:19 |
| holstein | how are you finding the quality? | 06:19 |
| holstein | the latency? | 06:19 |
| giacomo_c | well, with this standard kernel, not so great, but when i had the realtime kernel, latency was minimal | 06:20 |
| holstein | sounds like a nice solution | 06:20 |
| giacomo_c | do run ubuntu studio? | 06:21 |
| holstein | yup | 06:22 |
| giacomo_c | do you have any latency issues? | 06:22 |
| holstein | i added the studio metapackages to a vanilla install | 06:22 |
| holstein | nah | 06:22 |
| holstein | not really | 06:22 |
| holstein | i got a firewire interface | 06:22 |
| giacomo_c | well, i guess that depends mostly on your hardware :) | 06:22 |
| giacomo_c | cool | 06:23 |
| holstein | and the new FFADO software really hooked it up | 06:23 |
| holstein | it a presonus firepod | 06:23 |
| giacomo_c | is firewire better than usb2? | 06:24 |
| holstein | hmmm | 06:25 |
| holstein | im sure you could argue either way | 06:25 |
| holstein | BUT i was told | 06:25 |
| holstein | and i agree | 06:26 |
| giacomo_c | haha | 06:26 |
| holstein | that USB is not really made for realtime data transfer | 06:26 |
| holstein | big interrupted streams of data | 06:26 |
| giacomo_c | yeah | 06:26 |
| holstein | the guy that wrote ardour said somthing to that effect in an interview | 06:27 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, i had only seen raw transfer rates, but i guess the stream has more effect on something like music connectivity | 06:31 |
| giacomo_c | ok, so looking at this link, i really just need to install linux-rt | 06:34 |
| giacomo_c | and i won't have to worry about compiling my own kernel or any of that BS | 06:34 |
| holstein | nah | 06:34 |
| holstein | that RT kernel is the one im using | 06:34 |
| giacomo_c | alright, cool, i'm just gonna try that out first | 06:36 |
| giacomo_c | cause i don't really need the whole distro since i already have the software | 06:36 |
| holstein | yup | 06:36 |
| holstein | if you have jack and ardour | 06:36 |
| holstein | and thats all you need/want | 06:36 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, and 30 other programs :) | 06:36 |
| holstein | theres no reason to install the metapackage | 06:37 |
| giacomo_c | i'll have to sort through them, i don't remember when i installed them | 06:37 |
| holstein | they come from the same repos | 06:37 |
| giacomo_c | yeah | 06:37 |
| holstein | so they should stay up to date | 06:37 |
| holstein | along with everything else | 06:37 |
| giacomo_c | yeah | 06:37 |
| giacomo_c | i tried switching to debian a while back, but the repos for ubuntu are so much better, so i came back | 06:38 |
| giacomo_c | alright, realtime kernel installed | 06:43 |
| giacomo_c | its just a few version of the ubuntu kernel behind :( | 06:43 |
| holstein | i got a friend on the kernel team | 06:44 |
| giacomo_c | but it's probably going to be better than having to recompile the kernel everytime there's an update to it | 06:44 |
| giacomo_c | really? cool | 06:44 |
| holstein | he said they're still not looking at the RT one | 06:44 |
| giacomo_c | for ubuntu? | 06:44 |
| holstein | yup | 06:44 |
| holstein | they just had kernel freeze for lucid | 06:44 |
| giacomo_c | ah, yeah, its not widely needed enough | 06:45 |
| holstein | thats what everyone is working on | 06:45 |
| holstein | the lucid desktop | 06:45 |
| holstein | getting all the bugs straightened out | 06:45 |
| giacomo_c | ah, what's happening with it? | 06:45 |
| holstein | im running it | 06:45 |
| holstein | on my EEEpc | 06:45 |
| giacomo_c | ha, cool, is it nice? | 06:45 |
| giacomo_c | i haven't really looked into the next release yet | 06:46 |
| holstein | still havent started running it on my studio box yet | 06:46 |
| holstein | i plan to when i get a minute | 06:46 |
| holstein | what i have heard... | 06:46 |
| holstein | thats going to be good for us is that | 06:46 |
| holstein | JACK got moved up | 06:46 |
| holstein | into the normal repo | 06:46 |
| giacomo_c | moved up? | 06:46 |
| giacomo_c | ahh | 06:46 |
| holstein | i guess it was in mutiverse | 06:47 |
| holstein | or whatever it was called | 06:47 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, well that won't mean a whole lot without releasing a side by side rt kernel | 06:47 |
| holstein | anyways | 06:47 |
| holstein | all the stuff that comes in ubuntu | 06:47 |
| holstein | without jack support default | 06:47 |
| giacomo_c | good | 06:47 |
| holstein | can and should have it compiled in there | 06:47 |
| holstein | out of the box | 06:47 |
| holstein | BUT, i have not had a chance to check that out | 06:50 |
| holstein | the desktop version is nice | 06:50 |
| holstein | i got a couple bugs | 06:50 |
| giacomo_c | oh yeah, im sure | 06:50 |
| holstein | nothing major | 06:50 |
| holstein | when i resume from standby | 06:50 |
| holstein | the screen goes away | 06:50 |
| holstein | after about 10 minutes or so | 06:51 |
| giacomo_c | i remember when i was trying out 6.10 before it's release, lots of stuff sucked... but then again, the distro wasn't nearly as awesome as it is now | 06:51 |
| giacomo_c | everything was broke :p | 06:51 |
| holstein | it looks slick | 06:51 |
| holstein | very polished | 06:51 |
| holstein | and the FUD is that it looks like OSX | 06:51 |
| holstein | and it does | 06:51 |
| holstein | the window buttons got moved to the left | 06:52 |
| giacomo_c | ah | 06:52 |
| giacomo_c | who doesn't have their window buttons on the left :) | 06:52 |
| holstein | ;) | 06:53 |
| giacomo_c | do they have any rundowns of the new features/screen shots? | 06:54 |
| giacomo_c | i like looking at screenshots :) | 06:54 |
| holstein | http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-alpha-3-screenshots-gallery-updated-with-new-wallpapertheme.html | 06:55 |
| holstein | thats pretty much the login screen | 06:55 |
| giacomo_c | i kinda like this new one they have | 06:56 |
| giacomo_c | i mean, for 9.10 | 06:56 |
| giacomo_c | but i usually just make up my own out of some wallpapers i like, and general themes | 06:56 |
| holstein | http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/2010/03/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-alpha-3-screenshots/ | 06:56 |
| holstein | theres a few dekstop shots | 06:56 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, i see they've finally got away from that human theme | 06:59 |
| holstein | no more brown | 06:59 |
| holstein | looks slick | 06:59 |
| giacomo_c | yeah | 07:00 |
| giacomo_c | is it that dust theme? | 07:00 |
| holstein | i think its called ambiance | 07:01 |
| holstein | i changed it ;) | 07:01 |
| holstein | and i forget what the default was | 07:01 |
| giacomo_c | ah | 07:01 |
| giacomo_c | the amount of customization in gnome has always been the most attractive thing about it | 07:02 |
| giacomo_c | though, i do like the *box windowmanagers too | 07:02 |
| holstein | oh yeah | 07:03 |
| holstein | you checked out LXDE? | 07:03 |
| holstein | openbox with a panel pretty much | 07:03 |
| holstein | and all of those are packaged up pretty well in ubuntu now | 07:03 |
| holstein | you can sudo apt-get install lubuntu | 07:04 |
| giacomo_c | yeah, i've read about lxde | 07:04 |
| giacomo_c | the only one i've ever really used on a regular basis is fluxbox though | 07:04 |
| holstein | lubuntu-desktop i think is the package | 07:04 |
| holstein | i ran mepis for a long time | 07:04 |
| holstein | with fluxbox | 07:05 |
| holstein | antiX | 07:05 |
| szal | afternoon folks | 13:59 |
| szal | possibly slightly offtopic, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask, on the fly | 14:02 |
| szal | I have a MIDI interface (1 in/2 out) to connect to the serial port, originally intended for use on an Amiga.. any chance to get this thing running on a PC, or should I invest €20 into something else? | 14:04 |
| holstein | szal: try it | 15:38 |
| holstein | get a live distro CD like pure:dyne or something | 15:39 |
| holstein | plug it in and see | 15:39 |
| holstein | puredyne is based on ubuntu, so if it works in there, it should work in ubuntu studio | 15:40 |
| szal | in fact, if it works there, it should work on any Linux distro.. I don't run *buntu ;) | 15:40 |
| holstein | hmmm | 15:43 |
| holstein | i would try and find an audio respin | 15:43 |
| holstein | something with jack in it | 15:43 |
| holstein | that is similar to your distro | 15:44 |
| holstein | OR | 15:44 |
| holstein | just go ahead and plug it in and try it | 15:44 |
| holstein | -- /join #opensourcemusicians | 15:45 |
| holstein | someone there might know | 15:45 |
| holstein | szal: did it work? | 16:04 |
| szal | holstein: bad timing now, that'll have to wait till later tonight or tomorrow ;) | 16:07 |
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