[01:25] is there a place that talks about the changes to the new ubuntu studio? [01:26] also how does the upgrade work iin april. When I upgrade will I have to download studio later? [01:34] f [01:44] kompute you got any idea? [01:59] hey there Scorcher [01:59] AFAIK [01:59] you would just do an upgrade [02:00] from karmic to lucid [02:00] and whatever packages can be updated will be [02:00] which should include all you studio meta packages [02:00] your* [02:00] !vanilla [02:00] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [02:01] take a look at this link for the meta-pacakges for ubuntustudio [02:15] well I have studio 9.10 now [02:17] also, how do I get th -rt kernal back? My ubuntu upgrades kernals eaxh time on comes out [02:17] I am assumeing I. Need to download again and select. It through grub [02:23] Scorcher: the only change really is grub2 [02:23] !grub2 [02:23] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [02:23] you can decide how to deal with the kernel order [02:23] i just set the default kernel to the RT one [02:23] in grub [02:24] hi holstein [02:24] and if i have grub display them [02:24] and if i get a kernel update [02:24] man you just missed the OSM live pd lesson [02:24] i just change the default in grub [02:24] rlameiro: I KNOW [02:24] im pissed [02:24] ..... [02:24] i will make more [02:24] next time ) [02:24] dont worry [02:24] :) [02:25] looking forward to it [02:25] are you recording a screencast or something? [02:25] was a live session [02:25] OK [02:26] i didnt record it [02:26] i see the mp3 of the stream [02:26] link [02:26] in OSM [02:26] but i will make some fater [02:26] grab it if you want [02:26] :D [02:26] well [02:26] i will [02:26] going to sleep no [02:26] nite [02:26] now* [02:26] cya [05:48] hi [05:53] anyone know of an easy way to go from a regular ubuntu install to ubuntu studio? like, can i just change the repos and do a dist-upgrade? [06:00] hey giacomo_c [06:00] !vanilla [06:00] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [06:00] check that linke [06:00] link* [06:01] the directions for hardy work the same [06:01] you can also do sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio [06:01] OR search ubuntustudio in synaptic [06:01] and read, and get an idea about what each studio package does [06:02] ALSO, if your planning on doing audio recording [06:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [06:10] ah cool... i have all this software, like jack and some programs for recording, drum machines, etc, but i want to run them with a realtime kernel, and the last time i compiled my own, it ended up messing up my ubuntu install [06:10] good for you [06:11] i havnet compiled a kernel yet [06:11] sudo apt-get isntall linux-rt [06:11] that gets you the realtime kernel [06:11] !grub2 [06:11] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [06:11] thats the newer grub info [06:12] yeah, i mean, it was all kinda crazy to me, and i probably couldn't do it again without some sort of guide, but in the end, it messed up some crap with the offical repos, and i ended up just upgrading to karmic without recompiling a new kernel and just using the distro's [06:13] -- /join #opensourcemusicians [06:13] you might be interested in the podcast there [06:13] i recently reinstalled grub, im not sure if i went with grub2 or not though... (i had to do a reinstall of xp and it removed grub) [06:13] yeah, i was looking for a good irc room for linux musicians [06:13] OH [06:14] you might still have the old grub then [06:14] if it was an updated from jaunty [06:14] i bet i do [06:14] which is fine [06:14] legacy or whatev it was called i think [06:15] well, what do you recommend for recording? i've messed around with ardour some, and it seems like one of the best bets [06:15] yup [06:16] ardour is awesome [06:16] the proprietary renoise is nice too [06:16] ardour will get MIDI in 3.x [06:17] ah, i've never messed with midi [06:17] i have a keyboard that does midi, but right now, im just working with a laptop that i want to record via microphones [06:17] you have an interface? [06:18] or the internal card? [06:18] haha, well, the laptop's internal card is busted, so i've been using an external usb thing that came with my plantronics headphones [06:18] sounds like a plan [06:19] v0v, i do with what i can atm... im in the process of buying parts for building a new computer, and i want to get a nice sound card for that [06:19] how are you finding the quality? [06:19] the latency? [06:20] well, with this standard kernel, not so great, but when i had the realtime kernel, latency was minimal [06:20] sounds like a nice solution [06:21] do run ubuntu studio? [06:22] yup [06:22] do you have any latency issues? [06:22] i added the studio metapackages to a vanilla install [06:22] nah [06:22] not really [06:22] i got a firewire interface [06:22] well, i guess that depends mostly on your hardware :) [06:23] cool [06:23] and the new FFADO software really hooked it up [06:23] it a presonus firepod [06:24] is firewire better than usb2? [06:25] hmmm [06:25] im sure you could argue either way [06:25] BUT i was told [06:26] and i agree [06:26] haha [06:26] that USB is not really made for realtime data transfer [06:26] big interrupted streams of data [06:26] yeah [06:27] the guy that wrote ardour said somthing to that effect in an interview [06:31] yeah, i had only seen raw transfer rates, but i guess the stream has more effect on something like music connectivity [06:34] ok, so looking at this link, i really just need to install linux-rt [06:34] and i won't have to worry about compiling my own kernel or any of that BS [06:34] nah [06:34] that RT kernel is the one im using [06:36] alright, cool, i'm just gonna try that out first [06:36] cause i don't really need the whole distro since i already have the software [06:36] yup [06:36] if you have jack and ardour [06:36] and thats all you need/want [06:36] yeah, and 30 other programs :) [06:37] theres no reason to install the metapackage [06:37] i'll have to sort through them, i don't remember when i installed them [06:37] they come from the same repos [06:37] yeah [06:37] so they should stay up to date [06:37] along with everything else [06:37] yeah [06:38] i tried switching to debian a while back, but the repos for ubuntu are so much better, so i came back [06:43] alright, realtime kernel installed [06:43] its just a few version of the ubuntu kernel behind :( [06:44] i got a friend on the kernel team [06:44] but it's probably going to be better than having to recompile the kernel everytime there's an update to it [06:44] really? cool [06:44] he said they're still not looking at the RT one [06:44] for ubuntu? [06:44] yup [06:44] they just had kernel freeze for lucid [06:45] ah, yeah, its not widely needed enough [06:45] thats what everyone is working on [06:45] the lucid desktop [06:45] getting all the bugs straightened out [06:45] ah, what's happening with it? [06:45] im running it [06:45] on my EEEpc [06:45] ha, cool, is it nice? [06:46] i haven't really looked into the next release yet [06:46] still havent started running it on my studio box yet [06:46] i plan to when i get a minute [06:46] what i have heard... [06:46] thats going to be good for us is that [06:46] JACK got moved up [06:46] into the normal repo [06:46] moved up? [06:46] ahh [06:47] i guess it was in mutiverse [06:47] or whatever it was called [06:47] yeah, well that won't mean a whole lot without releasing a side by side rt kernel [06:47] anyways [06:47] all the stuff that comes in ubuntu [06:47] without jack support default [06:47] good [06:47] can and should have it compiled in there [06:47] out of the box [06:50] BUT, i have not had a chance to check that out [06:50] the desktop version is nice [06:50] i got a couple bugs [06:50] oh yeah, im sure [06:50] nothing major [06:50] when i resume from standby [06:50] the screen goes away [06:51] after about 10 minutes or so [06:51] i remember when i was trying out 6.10 before it's release, lots of stuff sucked... but then again, the distro wasn't nearly as awesome as it is now [06:51] everything was broke :p [06:51] it looks slick [06:51] very polished [06:51] and the FUD is that it looks like OSX [06:51] and it does [06:52] the window buttons got moved to the left [06:52] ah [06:52] who doesn't have their window buttons on the left :) [06:53] ;) [06:54] do they have any rundowns of the new features/screen shots? [06:54] i like looking at screenshots :) [06:55] http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-alpha-3-screenshots-gallery-updated-with-new-wallpapertheme.html [06:55] thats pretty much the login screen [06:56] i kinda like this new one they have [06:56] i mean, for 9.10 [06:56] but i usually just make up my own out of some wallpapers i like, and general themes [06:56] http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/2010/03/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-alpha-3-screenshots/ [06:56] theres a few dekstop shots [06:59] yeah, i see they've finally got away from that human theme [06:59] no more brown [06:59] looks slick [07:00] yeah [07:00] is it that dust theme? [07:01] i think its called ambiance [07:01] i changed it ;) [07:01] and i forget what the default was [07:01] ah [07:02] the amount of customization in gnome has always been the most attractive thing about it [07:02] though, i do like the *box windowmanagers too [07:03] oh yeah [07:03] you checked out LXDE? [07:03] openbox with a panel pretty much [07:03] and all of those are packaged up pretty well in ubuntu now [07:04] you can sudo apt-get install lubuntu [07:04] yeah, i've read about lxde [07:04] the only one i've ever really used on a regular basis is fluxbox though [07:04] lubuntu-desktop i think is the package [07:04] i ran mepis for a long time [07:05] with fluxbox [07:05] antiX [13:59] afternoon folks [14:02] possibly slightly offtopic, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask, on the fly [14:04] I have a MIDI interface (1 in/2 out) to connect to the serial port, originally intended for use on an Amiga.. any chance to get this thing running on a PC, or should I invest €20 into something else? [15:38] szal: try it [15:39] get a live distro CD like pure:dyne or something [15:39] plug it in and see [15:40] puredyne is based on ubuntu, so if it works in there, it should work in ubuntu studio [15:40] in fact, if it works there, it should work on any Linux distro.. I don't run *buntu ;) [15:43] hmmm [15:43] i would try and find an audio respin [15:43] something with jack in it [15:44] that is similar to your distro [15:44] OR [15:44] just go ahead and plug it in and try it [15:45] -- /join #opensourcemusicians [15:45] someone there might know [16:04] szal: did it work? [16:07] holstein: bad timing now, that'll have to wait till later tonight or tomorrow ;)