| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| daniskami | Hi everybody. Is there a schedule for Xubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) yet? | 01:22 |
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| daniskami | ah, found the alpha3: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/lucid/alpha-3/ | 01:47 |
| andrew12 | hax | 02:08 |
| excalibas | Hello, i have "normal" Ubuntu and installed xfce, when I change something on the xfce4-cpufreq-plugin it just goes back to how it was. how can i make it pressist? | 04:51 |
| excalibas | i mean how can I make the settings pressiste? | 04:53 |
| Balsaq | hmmm....iwould install xfce thru the terminal command to make it stick | 04:56 |
| Balsaq | if i had trouble doing it... | 04:57 |
| Balsaq | see...if ilike xfce i just install xubuntu...but that just me | 04:57 |
| Balsaq | sudo apt-get -y install xfce4-terminal | 04:59 |
| Balsaq | i am no pro though...maybe someone else will also respond | 04:59 |
| Sysi | sounds like bug to me | 05:19 |
| Balsaq | ahhh...finally a xubuntu technician has arrived...HI SYSI!!!! | 05:20 |
| Sysi | or your processor don't support it | 05:20 |
| Sysi | morning Balsaq, i'm going to linux seminar today \o/ | 05:21 |
| Balsaq | sooper | 05:21 |
| Balsaq | where is it? | 05:21 |
| Balsaq | i want to attend! | 05:21 |
| Sysi | university of oulu, finland | 05:21 |
| Balsaq | when someone asks a question...i want to know the answer! | 05:22 |
| excalibas | Sysi, if I do sudo cpufreq-selector -g conservativeit works | 05:23 |
| excalibas | I think the plugin is not running as root | 05:23 |
| excalibas | can i force it? | 05:23 |
| Sysi | excalibas: you could try to reboot or relogin | 05:25 |
| excalibas | ok, so it is supose to work | 05:27 |
| Sysi | usually things are :) | 05:28 |
| Sysi | off we go -> | 05:29 |
| Balsaq | yo _Techie_ | 05:53 |
| === tuvok302Lappy is now known as tuvok302 | ||
| MobiusJedi | what's xterm? | 06:59 |
| MobiusJedi | !xterm | 06:59 |
| ubottu | If with all the cute terminals that are around you're still using xterm, then you deserve any problem you're experiencing with it. Go away. | 06:59 |
| MobiusJedi | rofl | 06:59 |
| _Techie_ | haha | 06:59 |
| MobiusJedi | fine, i'll find bash | 06:59 |
| _Techie_ | think about it | 06:59 |
| _Techie_ | X term | 06:59 |
| _Techie_ | X11 Terminal | 06:59 |
| MobiusJedi | aha | 07:00 |
| MobiusJedi | i'm having multiple problems: no sound, internal drives don't mount, and keyboard shortcuts in xubuntu have been elusive | 07:03 |
| MobiusJedi | like a python or something... | 07:04 |
| Balsaq | try a clean install of xubuntu! | 07:04 |
| Balsaq | its like a binary enema | 07:04 |
| MobiusJedi | I did that | 07:04 |
| MobiusJedi | twice! | 07:04 |
| Balsaq | must be messin with windows then.... | 07:05 |
| MobiusJedi | i guess i'll have to try a fresh 8.10 again | 07:05 |
| MobiusJedi | i wiped windows cuz i was fed up with it | 07:05 |
| Balsaq | 904 is the way...the truth and the light | 07:05 |
| MobiusJedi | and ubuntu was just too good not to install | 07:06 |
| Balsaq | and i suspect 10.04...will be even better | 07:06 |
| Balsaq | purge yourself of the demons.... | 07:06 |
| MobiusJedi | the way the truth and the life huh | 07:07 |
| Balsaq | xubuntu is an internet powerhouse | 07:07 |
| MobiusJedi | it's gettin biblical around here | 07:07 |
| MobiusJedi | interesting | 07:07 |
| MobiusJedi | my soundcard is unsupported after 8.10 | 07:08 |
| MobiusJedi | makes me sad | 07:08 |
| Balsaq | well in my experience...the drivers in xubuntu has worked on all my computers | 07:09 |
| MobiusJedi | I have a legacy card/chipset | 07:10 |
| Balsaq | please elaborate on that | 07:10 |
| Balsaq | be extremely specific | 07:11 |
| Balsaq | i have a 1998 dell that luvs xubuntu | 07:11 |
| Balsaq | and a 2003 dell | 07:11 |
| Balsaq | what do you have? | 07:12 |
| MobiusJedi | voyetra, the company that made the chip, hasn't granted open license (or whatever license rights ubuntu needs to provide the drivers) | 07:12 |
| Balsaq | what is your system spec | 07:12 |
| MobiusJedi | turtle beach santa cruz card on a custom desktop circa 1998-2002 | 07:12 |
| Balsaq | i have tirtle beach | 07:12 |
| MobiusJedi | athlon xp 2200+ 1.3 G ram | 07:13 |
| MobiusJedi | 5.1? | 07:13 |
| MobiusJedi | surround that is | 07:13 |
| Balsaq | in my 1998 dell....the driver disk is useless in xubuntu but the xububtu drivers took over? | 07:13 |
| Balsaq | i had sound in 810 immediately | 07:13 |
| Balsaq | even thought i had to use in board sound | 07:13 |
| Balsaq | ? | 07:13 |
| MobiusJedi | i had sound in ubuntu 8.10 | 07:13 |
| MobiusJedi | in the upgrade process to 9.10, i lost sound | 07:14 |
| Balsaq | did you try 904? | 07:14 |
| MobiusJedi | tried at least 5 different troubleshooting guides | 07:14 |
| Balsaq | did you try 904? | 07:14 |
| MobiusJedi | on the way to 9.10 yes | 07:14 |
| Balsaq | and o sound? | 07:14 |
| Balsaq | no? | 07:14 |
| Balsaq | something has gone awry | 07:15 |
| Balsaq | 810 was really really good...910 was weird...904 wa really really good | 07:16 |
| MobiusJedi | i've been considering lucid | 07:17 |
| Balsaq | that will be a good one | 07:17 |
| MobiusJedi | lucidity being an attractive concept after all | 07:17 |
| Balsaq | i am almost certain | 07:17 |
| Balsaq | every so often they hit one long and deep.... | 07:17 |
| Sysi | lucid is fast, and pretty working one already | 07:19 |
| Sysi | but just beta after all | 07:19 |
| _Techie_ | if lucid is fast, id hat etho think of the speed of lucid Lubuntu | 07:21 |
| _Techie_ | hate to* | 07:21 |
| Sysi | i'd guess "instant" | 07:21 |
| Sysi | but i'll focus to speech of bjarne stroup -> | 07:22 |
| MobiusJedi | does xubuntu have a system log viewer? | 08:13 |
| _Techie_ | should have dmesg | 08:20 |
| _Techie_ | or you can just view /var/log/syslog | 08:20 |
| _Techie_ | less /var/log/syslog | 08:20 |
| MobiusJedi | mk | 08:23 |
| atul | How to make wireless working in Ubuntu-9.04 for sony viao laptop ? | 09:02 |
| psycho_oreos | what chipset? | 09:19 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: AR9285 | 09:29 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: its for sony vaio | 09:29 |
| psycho_oreos | atul, hmm can you see wlan0 interface? | 09:29 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: how to see that, lspci | 09:31 |
| atul | ? | 09:31 |
| psycho_oreos | atul, no through iwconfig | 09:31 |
| psycho_oreos | and please use pastebin (don't paste in here) | 09:31 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: Yes sure | 09:31 |
| psycho_oreos | atul, if you're pasting more than 2-3 lines :) | 09:32 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: yeas I was aware of that, http://pastebin.ca/1842165 | 09:33 |
| psycho_oreos | atul, hmm better yet, do lspci -nnk | 09:33 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: ok | 09:34 |
| atul | psycho_oreos: http://pastebin.ca/1842166 | 09:36 |
| psycho_oreos | atul, weird, I'd try sudo modprobe ath9k | 09:38 |
| hexdump_ | hello all | 11:20 |
| hexdump_ | Psilocybin_Elf: You big into growing? | 11:20 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | my sound stopped working after closing the postal 2 demo. | 11:21 |
| hexdump_ | oh nm | 11:21 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | I tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and lsof | grep pcm but no change | 11:21 |
| === jcarter is now known as highvoltage | ||
| Mystique | hey all, is there any way to make xubuntu take less memory? | 12:42 |
| Sysi | how much do you have? | 12:42 |
| Mystique | and is the live cd an indication of how much memory it is going to take? | 12:42 |
| Mystique | well I'm trying to do a 'personal' virtualization thing with virtualbox | 12:43 |
| Mystique | and I'd like the host os (xubuntu) to take no more than 1G | 12:43 |
| Mystique | its on a laptop with 4G | 12:43 |
| Sysi | xubuntu does well with 512mb | 12:43 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu only takes 256MB memory. It does require about 1.5GB of drive space, though | 12:43 |
| Mystique | and (unless I'm reading top wrong) it looks like it takes 800MB in ram.. | 12:43 |
| eXpl0i7 | you can install fluxbox | 12:44 |
| Mystique | 8(then six zeros) | 12:44 |
| Mystique | and the main memory is 4(and then 7 zeros) | 12:44 |
| charlie-tca | It will use the memory available to it | 12:44 |
| Mystique | s/zeros/places .. | 12:44 |
| charlie-tca | Tell VBox to give the machine the amount you want it to use | 12:45 |
| Mystique | yes, vbox I can limit what each guest os can take.. | 12:45 |
| charlie-tca | I run mine in 384MB in VBox | 12:45 |
| Sysi | i've used xubuntu, it runs fine with 512mb, hardy even with 256 | 12:45 |
| Mystique | ok, so it'll scale? | 12:45 |
| Mystique | and if the laptop has a finger print scanner/reader on it.. any chance it'll work? :) | 12:46 |
| charlie-tca | it will swap | 12:46 |
| Mystique | I was 'gifted' a latitude z with *two* 256G SSDs | 12:46 |
| charlie-tca | Don't know if the finger print reader will work | 12:46 |
| charlie-tca | Does it work in VBox at all? | 12:46 |
| Mystique | cpu isn't much to write home about.. but the two ssds are nice. | 12:47 |
| Mystique | and should I use the 9.10 or the daily snaps of 10.04? | 12:47 |
| charlie-tca | If you can not afford to lose anything, use 9.10 | 12:48 |
| Mystique | box is 2-3 days old.. | 12:48 |
| Mystique | nothing real yet | 12:48 |
| Mystique | ah, i see.. | 12:48 |
| charlie-tca | 10.04 is still in Alpha stage, and is subject to breaking | 12:48 |
| charlie-tca | Oportunity! We are testing the beta1 images today | 12:49 |
| Mystique | I used the 10.04 on a few other machines, but the first 'update' broke *everything* | 12:49 |
| Mystique | so much in fact the box wouldn't boot :/ | 12:49 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 12:49 |
| charlie-tca | that's alpha | 12:49 |
| charlie-tca | This box will be upgraded to lucid today or tomorrow | 12:50 |
| charlie-tca | eject | 12:59 |
| daniskami | For some reason, my gnome-screensaver stopped working. The process is still running, and "gnome-screensaver-command -a" works fine, but it won't activate when the computer is idle. What could be the cause? How does the screensaver know the computer is idle? (Xubuntu 9.10) | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca__ | AFAIK, it has not worked in 9.10 since the release | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca__ | It actually quit working automatically about Karmic alpha2 | 16:20 |
| daniskami | uhm, really? | 16:20 |
| daniskami | Let me google that | 16:21 |
| daniskami | charlie-tca__: alright, I'm running xscreensaver now, which works well enough for me :) | 16:38 |
| daniskami | thanks for making me aware of the problem with gnome-screensaver | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca__ | yw, lucid will have xscreensaver by default for Xubuntu | 16:49 |
| Psilocybin_Elf | Good, no more gnome-screensaver | 16:50 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Hello charlie-tca__ | 16:57 |
| charlie-tca__ | Hello, Sachse_Siechtum | 16:58 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | How you doin? | 16:58 |
| Besogon | hi. no one want to tell me. What have everybody got in fstab file at the strings mentioned about "/media". I'm interested in default values which make ubuntu. (umask or gmask and fmask, gid, uid) | 17:02 |
| Besogon | ? | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca__ | Besogon: The only thing I have in a fresh Xubuntu Lucid install is the floppy drive | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca__ | you want the line? | 17:07 |
| Besogon | I need line only in case it line have '/media' note | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca__ | /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 | 17:10 |
| Besogon | charlie-tca__, thanks. but it's not exactly I need. because in such kind of line (floppy and cdrom or /) no umask gid and uid | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca__ | They aren't needed | 17:13 |
| Besogon | At all, dosn't it? | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca__ | That ,user, takes care of it for the the cdrom and floppy drives. That allows the user to access the drives | 17:15 |
| Besogon | This is for on of my disk, but I afraid I hve changed it, UUID=8F39-380E /media/fat32 vfat utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0 | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca__ | uid and gid is for NFS, normally | 17:15 |
| Besogon | NFS? (network file system)? | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca__ | Is that an external drive? | 17:16 |
| Besogon | no. it's a logical partition. Where can I find deskription of ubuntu special groups? | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca__ | google? | 17:18 |
| Besogon | gid=46 it's pludev group. | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca__ | or maybe in the server user guide | 17:18 |
| Besogon | I'll look at it | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca__ | plugdev enables access to external storage devices | 17:19 |
| Besogon | thanks for help. | 17:25 |
| rofl0r | hello, i have no sound on the lineout of my macbook 2,1 ; using xubuntu 9.10 | 17:46 |
| rofl0r | any ideas? | 17:46 |
| rofl0r | the internal crap speakers work | 17:47 |
| === flossk is now known as gent_flossk | ||
| pleia2 | rofl0r: I'd first try opening up a sound mixer and make sure nothing is muted | 17:51 |
| TheSheep | and make sure there is no light inside the socket | 17:52 |
| rofl0r | light ? | 17:52 |
| rofl0r | ah, great | 17:53 |
| rofl0r | thx | 17:53 |
| rofl0r | it works now ;) | 17:53 |
| * charlie-tca__ thanks TheSheep for that one | 17:53 | |
| TheSheep | it doubles as a socked for fiberoptic cable | 17:53 |
| rofl0r | i am so used to problems with pulseaudio that i was seeking there | 17:53 |
| TheSheep | socket | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca__ | Never would have thought about that | 17:54 |
| rofl0r | do you know by chance how can i switch the F keys to normal (non laptop) behaviour ? | 17:56 |
| rofl0r | i.e. press FN + F5 to make volume adjustments, but usually have it on plain F5 functionality | 17:56 |
| rofl0r | even better would be to assign other keys to them, i.e. F12 get Home | 17:58 |
| rofl0r | this and other keys are missing on the crapbook | 17:59 |
| rofl0r | no INSERT as well | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca__ | You can assign your own shortcuts in Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard | 17:59 |
| rofl0r | which is highly useful in midnight commander | 17:59 |
| rofl0r | isnt that only for launching apps ? | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca__ | nope | 18:01 |
| charlie-tca__ | I assign the audio keys for volume, mute, play there | 18:02 |
| rofl0r | if i click on ADD, i have to choose a command | 18:02 |
| charlie-tca__ | yup | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca__ | you mean like audio UP? | 18:03 |
| rofl0r | meaning an executable | 18:03 |
| rofl0r | i mean get INSERT when pressing F12 | 18:03 |
| rofl0r | key remapping | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca__ | command : INSERT | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca__ | actually, it is : Insert | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca__ | That is a command | 18:04 |
| rofl0r | this will behave as if the INSERT key on the keyboard was pressed ? i doubt that. | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca__ | If you place Insert in the command box, hit add, they hit F12 for the key | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca__ | If you don't type the command right, it won't work. | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca__ | You can look at Settings -> Window Manager, Keyboard tab for how to spell it | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca__ | I don't think if is all in my mind that it works for me | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca__ | Of course, insert is a toggle key, it may fail | 18:08 |
| rofl0r | well, it dont work in the midnight commander | 18:08 |
| rofl0r | but it seems to work there now with ctrl-t | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca__ | Doesn't midnight commander define it's own shortcuts? | 18:09 |
| rofl0r | the insert key is used to select a file | 18:09 |
| rofl0r | or multiple files | 18:09 |
| rofl0r | Service Temporarily Unavailable | 18:15 |
| rofl0r | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Karmic | 18:15 |
| Blue-Slacker | i need to /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel , can any body to help me | 18:44 |
| Balsaq | what exactly are you trying to do Blue-Slacker? | 18:45 |
| Blue-Slacker | Balsaq: i want to make my xfce panel in slackware looklike xubuntu panels | 18:46 |
| Balsaq | does slackware utilize yum Blue_Slacker? | 19:02 |
| Balsaq | if so....su _c yum groupinstall xfce' | 19:03 |
| Balsaq | su -c yum groupinstall xfce' is what i meant Blue-Slacker | 19:04 |
| Balsaq | but it is a guess... | 19:04 |
| Blue-Slacker | Balsaq: tnx | 19:05 |
| Sysi | if you mean that they need to look like same, get the albatross theme | 19:13 |
| arathald | hey all | 19:29 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | hello | 19:29 |
| arathald | how do i get the xfce window manager to display an overlay showing which workspace I'm on (when I switch workspaces), similar to how the gnome one does it (or how to the same app does it in gnome?)? I use several workspaces in a few rows and tend to get lost switching between them | 19:31 |
| arathald | or, alternatively, is there another worspace manager I could use instead that would give me the behavior I want? | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca__ | Normally, on my 10 workspaces, it is the one that hilights | 19:33 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | no idea | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca__ | Don't know how gnome does it, I don't use it | 19:33 |
| arathald | charlie-tca__: i don't have the panel visible | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca__ | Are you hiding it or did it disappear? | 19:34 |
| arathald | im hiding it, 2 of my workspaces are fullscreen terminals | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca__ | Don't know any way to do it, then | 19:34 |
| faron1 | hello everybody.hopefully all are well today...could somebody explain to me how to install this file file I have sitting on my desk called flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz | 20:27 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | tar.gz is a archive type...so you should extract it first | 20:28 |
| faron1 | thankyou can you explain that to me a little...... | 20:29 |
| faron1 | I havearchive mgr & xarchiver installed on this sys | 20:29 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/tgz.html | 20:31 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | Hope that helps | 20:33 |
| faron1 | why is it opening in a terminal ? | 20:34 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | why is what opening? | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca__ | faron1: are you installing 64bit flash? | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca__ | It would be much easier to install a flashplayer from Synaptic Package Manager | 20:35 |
| Sachse_Siechtum | that was my second thought | 20:36 |
| idmclean | Greetings, I'm trying to get access to a partition on this computer which has my previous install of Xubuntu. I need to copy a couple of files over to the new install. I've searched around google for a solution but nothing germane has come up. | 20:53 |
| Besogon | idmclean, did you look mount options carefully? | 20:56 |
| idmclean | Besogon, yes, but that doesn't mean I understand them well enough to go messing with them. ^_^ | 20:57 |
| Besogon | may be setting uid=value and gid=value in adequate value could help you. | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca__ | idmclean: what format was the partition? | 21:12 |
| charlie-tca__ | and what partition on the drive? | 21:12 |
| Besogon | previous install of Xubuntu (more probabyly it's ext3) | 21:17 |
| Xpistos | can someone help me set a user to auto login for xubuntu 9.10 | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca__ | Besogon: What version of xubuntu was the previous install? | 21:18 |
| Besogon | I don't know. I see no more then I | 21:18 |
| Xpistos | all the docs I can find are before ubuntu went to the new splash | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca__ | Okay, so let's have idmclean answer | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca__ | Xpistos: I don't know how to do that | 21:20 |
| idmclean | charlie-tca, thanks for responding. It's a ext3 partition. NewWorld in #Ubuntu got me straightened out. ^_^ | 21:20 |
| Xpistos | well does xubuntu use gm? | 21:21 |
| Xpistos | gdm i mean | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca__ | idmclean: please do not crosspost your questions | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca__ | that will get you banned in the future | 21:21 |
| idmclean | charlie-tca, okay. Might as well ban me then. ^_^ I posted the question here first. When I got a less than helpful response, I decided to go elsewhere for help. Enjoy. | 21:22 |
| charlie-tca__ | Xpistos: yes, xubuntu uses gdm | 21:23 |
| idmclean | Besogon, thanks for trying to teach me to fish. I do appreciate the sentiment. Enjoy. | 21:24 |
| Xpistos | charlie-tca__: I may have found it | 21:29 |
| Xpistos | charlie-tca__: when I added the new user and said to log that in instead of the admin, it boots right in | 21:36 |
| Xpistos | charlie-tca__: I didn't think that was going to happen | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca__ | Great! Glad you got it working. | 21:37 |
| Xpistos | and I will have to take a closer look at xfce cause it has matured quite abit | 21:37 |
| Xpistos | one other thing how do I get the vnc server to start at boot | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca__ | Add it to startup and sessions | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca__ | Well, actually, that would only start it when you log in | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca__ | Not so good if you have more than one user | 21:44 |
| _Techie_ | !rc.d | 21:55 |
| _Techie_ | if you want something to run before login read up on runlevels | 21:56 |
| _Techie_ | http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8116-an-introduction-to-services-runlevels-and-rcd-scripts | 21:56 |
| _Techie_ | or cron | 21:56 |
| _Techie_ | !cron | 21:56 |
| ubottu | cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca__ | .me thinks he's right! | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca__ | of course, ubuntu/xubuntu no longer use different run levels, just need to add to rc2.d and rc3.d | 21:59 |
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