=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:22] Hi everybody. Is there a schedule for Xubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) yet? [01:47] ah, found the alpha3: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/lucid/alpha-3/ [02:08] hax [04:51] Hello, i have "normal" Ubuntu and installed xfce, when I change something on the xfce4-cpufreq-plugin it just goes back to how it was. how can i make it pressist? [04:53] i mean how can I make the settings pressiste? [04:56] hmmm....iwould install xfce thru the terminal command to make it stick [04:57] if i had trouble doing it... [04:57] see...if ilike xfce i just install xubuntu...but that just me [04:59] sudo apt-get -y install xfce4-terminal [04:59] i am no pro though...maybe someone else will also respond [05:19] sounds like bug to me [05:20] ahhh...finally a xubuntu technician has arrived...HI SYSI!!!! [05:20] or your processor don't support it [05:21] morning Balsaq, i'm going to linux seminar today \o/ [05:21] sooper [05:21] where is it? [05:21] i want to attend! [05:21] university of oulu, finland [05:22] when someone asks a question...i want to know the answer! [05:23] Sysi, if I do sudo cpufreq-selector -g conservativeit works [05:23] I think the plugin is not running as root [05:23] can i force it? [05:25] excalibas: you could try to reboot or relogin [05:27] ok, so it is supose to work [05:28] usually things are :) [05:29] off we go -> [05:53] yo _Techie_ === tuvok302Lappy is now known as tuvok302 [06:59] what's xterm? [06:59] !xterm [06:59] If with all the cute terminals that are around you're still using xterm, then you deserve any problem you're experiencing with it. Go away. [06:59] rofl [06:59] <_Techie_> haha [06:59] fine, i'll find bash [06:59] <_Techie_> think about it [06:59] <_Techie_> X term [06:59] <_Techie_> X11 Terminal [07:00] aha [07:03] i'm having multiple problems: no sound, internal drives don't mount, and keyboard shortcuts in xubuntu have been elusive [07:04] like a python or something... [07:04] try a clean install of xubuntu! [07:04] its like a binary enema [07:04] I did that [07:04] twice! [07:05] must be messin with windows then.... [07:05] i guess i'll have to try a fresh 8.10 again [07:05] i wiped windows cuz i was fed up with it [07:05] 904 is the way...the truth and the light [07:06] and ubuntu was just too good not to install [07:06] and i suspect 10.04...will be even better [07:06] purge yourself of the demons.... [07:07] the way the truth and the life huh [07:07] xubuntu is an internet powerhouse [07:07] it's gettin biblical around here [07:07] interesting [07:08] my soundcard is unsupported after 8.10 [07:08] makes me sad [07:09] well in my experience...the drivers in xubuntu has worked on all my computers [07:10] I have a legacy card/chipset [07:10] please elaborate on that [07:11] be extremely specific [07:11] i have a 1998 dell that luvs xubuntu [07:11] and a 2003 dell [07:12] what do you have? [07:12] voyetra, the company that made the chip, hasn't granted open license (or whatever license rights ubuntu needs to provide the drivers) [07:12] what is your system spec [07:12] turtle beach santa cruz card on a custom desktop circa 1998-2002 [07:12] i have tirtle beach [07:13] athlon xp 2200+ 1.3 G ram [07:13] 5.1? [07:13] surround that is [07:13] in my 1998 dell....the driver disk is useless in xubuntu but the xububtu drivers took over? [07:13] i had sound in 810 immediately [07:13] even thought i had to use in board sound [07:13] ? [07:13] i had sound in ubuntu 8.10 [07:14] in the upgrade process to 9.10, i lost sound [07:14] did you try 904? [07:14] tried at least 5 different troubleshooting guides [07:14] did you try 904? [07:14] on the way to 9.10 yes [07:14] and o sound? [07:14] no? [07:15] something has gone awry [07:16] 810 was really really good...910 was weird...904 wa really really good [07:17] i've been considering lucid [07:17] that will be a good one [07:17] lucidity being an attractive concept after all [07:17] i am almost certain [07:17] every so often they hit one long and deep.... [07:19] lucid is fast, and pretty working one already [07:19] but just beta after all [07:21] <_Techie_> if lucid is fast, id hat etho think of the speed of lucid Lubuntu [07:21] <_Techie_> hate to* [07:21] i'd guess "instant" [07:22] but i'll focus to speech of bjarne stroup -> [08:13] does xubuntu have a system log viewer? [08:20] <_Techie_> should have dmesg [08:20] <_Techie_> or you can just view /var/log/syslog [08:20] <_Techie_> less /var/log/syslog [08:23] mk [09:02] How to make wireless working in Ubuntu-9.04 for sony viao laptop ? [09:19] what chipset? [09:29] psycho_oreos: AR9285 [09:29] psycho_oreos: its for sony vaio [09:29] atul, hmm can you see wlan0 interface? [09:31] psycho_oreos: how to see that, lspci [09:31] ? [09:31] atul, no through iwconfig [09:31] and please use pastebin (don't paste in here) [09:31] psycho_oreos: Yes sure [09:32] atul, if you're pasting more than 2-3 lines :) [09:33] psycho_oreos: yeas I was aware of that, http://pastebin.ca/1842165 [09:33] atul, hmm better yet, do lspci -nnk [09:34] psycho_oreos: ok [09:36] psycho_oreos: http://pastebin.ca/1842166 [09:38] atul, weird, I'd try sudo modprobe ath9k [11:20] hello all [11:20] Psilocybin_Elf: You big into growing? [11:21] my sound stopped working after closing the postal 2 demo. [11:21] oh nm [11:21] I tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and lsof | grep pcm but no change === jcarter is now known as highvoltage [12:42] hey all, is there any way to make xubuntu take less memory? [12:42] how much do you have? [12:42] and is the live cd an indication of how much memory it is going to take? [12:43] well I'm trying to do a 'personal' virtualization thing with virtualbox [12:43] and I'd like the host os (xubuntu) to take no more than 1G [12:43] its on a laptop with 4G [12:43] xubuntu does well with 512mb [12:43] Xubuntu only takes 256MB memory. It does require about 1.5GB of drive space, though [12:43] and (unless I'm reading top wrong) it looks like it takes 800MB in ram.. [12:44] you can install fluxbox [12:44] 8(then six zeros) [12:44] and the main memory is 4(and then 7 zeros) [12:44] It will use the memory available to it [12:44] s/zeros/places .. [12:45] Tell VBox to give the machine the amount you want it to use [12:45] yes, vbox I can limit what each guest os can take.. [12:45] I run mine in 384MB in VBox [12:45] i've used xubuntu, it runs fine with 512mb, hardy even with 256 [12:45] ok, so it'll scale? [12:46] and if the laptop has a finger print scanner/reader on it.. any chance it'll work? :) [12:46] it will swap [12:46] I was 'gifted' a latitude z with *two* 256G SSDs [12:46] Don't know if the finger print reader will work [12:46] Does it work in VBox at all? [12:47] cpu isn't much to write home about.. but the two ssds are nice. [12:47] and should I use the 9.10 or the daily snaps of 10.04? [12:48] If you can not afford to lose anything, use 9.10 [12:48] box is 2-3 days old.. [12:48] nothing real yet [12:48] ah, i see.. [12:48] 10.04 is still in Alpha stage, and is subject to breaking [12:49] Oportunity! We are testing the beta1 images today [12:49] I used the 10.04 on a few other machines, but the first 'update' broke *everything* [12:49] so much in fact the box wouldn't boot :/ [12:49] yup [12:49] that's alpha [12:50] This box will be upgraded to lucid today or tomorrow [12:59] eject [16:19] For some reason, my gnome-screensaver stopped working. The process is still running, and "gnome-screensaver-command -a" works fine, but it won't activate when the computer is idle. What could be the cause? How does the screensaver know the computer is idle? (Xubuntu 9.10) [16:19] AFAIK, it has not worked in 9.10 since the release [16:20] It actually quit working automatically about Karmic alpha2 [16:20] uhm, really? [16:21] Let me google that [16:38] charlie-tca__: alright, I'm running xscreensaver now, which works well enough for me :) [16:39] thanks for making me aware of the problem with gnome-screensaver [16:49] yw, lucid will have xscreensaver by default for Xubuntu [16:50] Good, no more gnome-screensaver [16:57] Hello charlie-tca__ [16:58] Hello, Sachse_Siechtum [16:58] How you doin? [17:02] hi. no one want to tell me. What have everybody got in fstab file at the strings mentioned about "/media". I'm interested in default values which make ubuntu. (umask or gmask and fmask, gid, uid) [17:02] ? [17:07] Besogon: The only thing I have in a fresh Xubuntu Lucid install is the floppy drive [17:07] you want the line? [17:08] I need line only in case it line have '/media' note [17:10] /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [17:13] charlie-tca__, thanks. but it's not exactly I need. because in such kind of line (floppy and cdrom or /) no umask gid and uid [17:13] They aren't needed [17:14] At all, dosn't it? [17:15] That ,user, takes care of it for the the cdrom and floppy drives. That allows the user to access the drives [17:15] This is for on of my disk, but I afraid I hve changed it, UUID=8F39-380E /media/fat32 vfat utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0 [17:15] uid and gid is for NFS, normally [17:16] NFS? (network file system)? [17:16] Is that an external drive? [17:18] no. it's a logical partition. Where can I find deskription of ubuntu special groups? [17:18] google? [17:18] gid=46 it's pludev group. [17:18] or maybe in the server user guide [17:19] I'll look at it [17:19] plugdev enables access to external storage devices [17:25] thanks for help. [17:46] hello, i have no sound on the lineout of my macbook 2,1 ; using xubuntu 9.10 [17:46] any ideas? [17:47] the internal crap speakers work === flossk is now known as gent_flossk [17:51] rofl0r: I'd first try opening up a sound mixer and make sure nothing is muted [17:52] and make sure there is no light inside the socket [17:52] light ? [17:53] ah, great [17:53] thx [17:53] it works now ;) [17:53] * charlie-tca__ thanks TheSheep for that one [17:53] it doubles as a socked for fiberoptic cable [17:53] i am so used to problems with pulseaudio that i was seeking there [17:54] socket [17:54] Never would have thought about that [17:56] do you know by chance how can i switch the F keys to normal (non laptop) behaviour ? [17:56] i.e. press FN + F5 to make volume adjustments, but usually have it on plain F5 functionality [17:58] even better would be to assign other keys to them, i.e. F12 get Home [17:59] this and other keys are missing on the crapbook [17:59] no INSERT as well [17:59] You can assign your own shortcuts in Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard [17:59] which is highly useful in midnight commander [18:00] isnt that only for launching apps ? [18:01] nope [18:02] I assign the audio keys for volume, mute, play there [18:02] if i click on ADD, i have to choose a command [18:03] yup [18:03] you mean like audio UP? [18:03] meaning an executable [18:03] i mean get INSERT when pressing F12 [18:03] key remapping [18:03] command : INSERT [18:04] actually, it is : Insert [18:04] That is a command [18:06] this will behave as if the INSERT key on the keyboard was pressed ? i doubt that. [18:06] If you place Insert in the command box, hit add, they hit F12 for the key [18:07] If you don't type the command right, it won't work. [18:07] You can look at Settings -> Window Manager, Keyboard tab for how to spell it [18:07] I don't think if is all in my mind that it works for me [18:08] Of course, insert is a toggle key, it may fail [18:08] well, it dont work in the midnight commander [18:09] but it seems to work there now with ctrl-t [18:09] Doesn't midnight commander define it's own shortcuts? [18:09] the insert key is used to select a file [18:09] or multiple files [18:15] Service Temporarily Unavailable [18:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Karmic [18:44] i need to /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel , can any body to help me [18:45] what exactly are you trying to do Blue-Slacker? [18:46] Balsaq: i want to make my xfce panel in slackware looklike xubuntu panels [19:02] does slackware utilize yum Blue_Slacker? [19:03] if so....su _c yum groupinstall xfce' [19:04] su -c yum groupinstall xfce' is what i meant Blue-Slacker [19:04] but it is a guess... [19:05] Balsaq: tnx [19:13] if you mean that they need to look like same, get the albatross theme [19:29] hey all [19:29] hello [19:31] how do i get the xfce window manager to display an overlay showing which workspace I'm on (when I switch workspaces), similar to how the gnome one does it (or how to the same app does it in gnome?)? I use several workspaces in a few rows and tend to get lost switching between them [19:33] or, alternatively, is there another worspace manager I could use instead that would give me the behavior I want? [19:33] Normally, on my 10 workspaces, it is the one that hilights [19:33] no idea [19:33] Don't know how gnome does it, I don't use it [19:33] charlie-tca__: i don't have the panel visible [19:34] Are you hiding it or did it disappear? [19:34] im hiding it, 2 of my workspaces are fullscreen terminals [19:34] Don't know any way to do it, then [20:27] hello everybody.hopefully all are well today...could somebody explain to me how to install this file file I have sitting on my desk called flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz [20:28] tar.gz is a archive type...so you should extract it first [20:29] thankyou can you explain that to me a little...... [20:29] I havearchive mgr & xarchiver installed on this sys [20:31] http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/tgz.html [20:33] Hope that helps [20:34] why is it opening in a terminal ? [20:34] why is what opening? [20:34] faron1: are you installing 64bit flash? [20:35] It would be much easier to install a flashplayer from Synaptic Package Manager [20:36] that was my second thought [20:53] Greetings, I'm trying to get access to a partition on this computer which has my previous install of Xubuntu. I need to copy a couple of files over to the new install. I've searched around google for a solution but nothing germane has come up. [20:56] idmclean, did you look mount options carefully? [20:57] Besogon, yes, but that doesn't mean I understand them well enough to go messing with them. ^_^ [20:59] may be setting uid=value and gid=value in adequate value could help you. [21:12] idmclean: what format was the partition? [21:12] and what partition on the drive? [21:17] previous install of Xubuntu (more probabyly it's ext3) [21:17] can someone help me set a user to auto login for xubuntu 9.10 [21:18] Besogon: What version of xubuntu was the previous install? [21:18] I don't know. I see no more then I [21:19] all the docs I can find are before ubuntu went to the new splash [21:19] Okay, so let's have idmclean answer [21:20] Xpistos: I don't know how to do that [21:20] charlie-tca, thanks for responding. It's a ext3 partition. NewWorld in #Ubuntu got me straightened out. ^_^ [21:21] well does xubuntu use gm? [21:21] gdm i mean [21:21] idmclean: please do not crosspost your questions [21:21] that will get you banned in the future [21:22] charlie-tca, okay. Might as well ban me then. ^_^ I posted the question here first. When I got a less than helpful response, I decided to go elsewhere for help. Enjoy. [21:23] Xpistos: yes, xubuntu uses gdm [21:24] Besogon, thanks for trying to teach me to fish. I do appreciate the sentiment. Enjoy. [21:29] charlie-tca__: I may have found it [21:36] charlie-tca__: when I added the new user and said to log that in instead of the admin, it boots right in [21:36] charlie-tca__: I didn't think that was going to happen [21:37] Great! Glad you got it working. [21:37] and I will have to take a closer look at xfce cause it has matured quite abit [21:40] one other thing how do I get the vnc server to start at boot [21:43] Add it to startup and sessions [21:44] Well, actually, that would only start it when you log in [21:44] Not so good if you have more than one user [21:55] <_Techie_> !rc.d [21:56] <_Techie_> if you want something to run before login read up on runlevels [21:56] <_Techie_> http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8116-an-introduction-to-services-runlevels-and-rcd-scripts [21:56] <_Techie_> or cron [21:56] <_Techie_> !cron [21:56] cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm [21:59] .me thinks he's right! [21:59] of course, ubuntu/xubuntu no longer use different run levels, just need to add to rc2.d and rc3.d