[01:22] <daniskami> Hi everybody. Is there a schedule for Xubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) yet?
[01:47] <daniskami> ah, found the alpha3: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/lucid/alpha-3/
[02:08] <andrew12> hax
[04:51] <excalibas> Hello, i have "normal" Ubuntu and installed xfce, when I change something on the xfce4-cpufreq-plugin it just goes back to how it was. how can i make it pressist?
[04:53] <excalibas> i mean how can I make the settings pressiste?
[04:56] <Balsaq> hmmm....iwould install xfce thru the terminal command to make it stick
[04:57] <Balsaq> if i had trouble doing it...
[04:57] <Balsaq> see...if ilike xfce i just install xubuntu...but that just me
[04:59] <Balsaq> sudo apt-get -y install xfce4-terminal
[04:59] <Balsaq> i am no pro though...maybe someone else will also respond
[05:19] <Sysi> sounds like bug to me
[05:20] <Balsaq> ahhh...finally a xubuntu technician has arrived...HI SYSI!!!!
[05:20] <Sysi> or your processor don't support it
[05:21] <Sysi> morning Balsaq, i'm going to linux seminar today \o/
[05:21] <Balsaq> sooper
[05:21] <Balsaq> where is it?
[05:21] <Balsaq> i want to attend!
[05:21] <Sysi> university of oulu, finland
[05:22] <Balsaq> when someone asks a question...i want to know the answer!
[05:23] <excalibas> Sysi, if I do  sudo cpufreq-selector -g conservativeit works
[05:23] <excalibas> I think the plugin is not running as root
[05:23] <excalibas> can i force it?
[05:25] <Sysi> excalibas: you could try to reboot or relogin
[05:27] <excalibas> ok, so it is supose to work
[05:28] <Sysi> usually things are :)
[05:29] <Sysi> off we go ->
[05:53] <Balsaq> yo _Techie_
[06:59] <MobiusJedi> what's xterm?
[06:59] <MobiusJedi> !xterm
[06:59] <MobiusJedi> rofl
[06:59] <_Techie_> haha
[06:59] <MobiusJedi> fine, i'll find bash
[06:59] <_Techie_> think about it
[06:59] <_Techie_> X term
[06:59] <_Techie_> X11 Terminal
[07:00] <MobiusJedi> aha
[07:03] <MobiusJedi> i'm having multiple problems: no sound, internal drives don't mount, and keyboard shortcuts in xubuntu have been elusive
[07:04] <MobiusJedi> like a python or something...
[07:04] <Balsaq> try a clean install of xubuntu!
[07:04] <Balsaq> its like a binary enema
[07:04] <MobiusJedi> I did that
[07:04] <MobiusJedi> twice!
[07:05] <Balsaq> must be messin with windows then....
[07:05] <MobiusJedi> i guess i'll have to try a fresh 8.10 again
[07:05] <MobiusJedi> i wiped windows cuz i was fed up with it
[07:05] <Balsaq> 904 is the way...the truth  and the light
[07:06] <MobiusJedi> and ubuntu was just too good not to install
[07:06] <Balsaq> and i suspect 10.04...will be even better
[07:06] <Balsaq> purge yourself of the demons....
[07:07] <MobiusJedi> the way the truth and the life huh
[07:07] <Balsaq> xubuntu is an internet powerhouse
[07:07] <MobiusJedi> it's gettin biblical around here
[07:07] <MobiusJedi> interesting
[07:08] <MobiusJedi> my soundcard is unsupported after 8.10
[07:08] <MobiusJedi> makes me sad
[07:09] <Balsaq> well in my experience...the drivers in xubuntu has worked on all my computers
[07:10] <MobiusJedi> I have a legacy card/chipset
[07:10] <Balsaq> please elaborate on that
[07:11] <Balsaq> be extremely specific
[07:11] <Balsaq> i have a 1998 dell that luvs xubuntu
[07:11] <Balsaq> and a 2003 dell
[07:12] <Balsaq> what do you have?
[07:12] <MobiusJedi> voyetra, the company that made the chip, hasn't granted open license (or whatever license rights ubuntu needs to provide the drivers)
[07:12] <Balsaq> what is your system spec
[07:12] <MobiusJedi> turtle beach santa cruz card on a custom desktop circa 1998-2002
[07:12] <Balsaq> i have tirtle beach
[07:13] <MobiusJedi> athlon xp 2200+ 1.3 G ram
[07:13] <MobiusJedi> 5.1?
[07:13] <MobiusJedi> surround that is
[07:13] <Balsaq> in my 1998 dell....the driver disk is useless in xubuntu but the xububtu drivers took over?
[07:13] <Balsaq> i had sound in 810 immediately
[07:13] <Balsaq> even thought i had to use in board sound
[07:13] <Balsaq> ?
[07:13] <MobiusJedi> i had sound in ubuntu 8.10
[07:14] <MobiusJedi> in the upgrade process to 9.10, i lost sound
[07:14] <Balsaq> did you try 904?
[07:14] <MobiusJedi> tried at least 5 different troubleshooting guides
[07:14] <Balsaq> did you try 904?
[07:14] <MobiusJedi> on the way to 9.10 yes
[07:14] <Balsaq> and o sound?
[07:14] <Balsaq> no?
[07:15] <Balsaq> something has gone awry
[07:16] <Balsaq> 810 was really really good...910 was weird...904 wa really really good
[07:17] <MobiusJedi> i've been considering lucid
[07:17] <Balsaq> that will be  a good one
[07:17] <MobiusJedi> lucidity being an attractive concept after all
[07:17] <Balsaq> i am almost certain
[07:17] <Balsaq> every so often they hit one long and deep....
[07:19] <Sysi> lucid is fast, and pretty working one already
[07:19] <Sysi> but just beta after all
[07:21] <_Techie_> if lucid is fast, id hat etho think of the speed of lucid Lubuntu
[07:21] <_Techie_> hate to*
[07:21] <Sysi> i'd guess "instant"
[07:22] <Sysi> but i'll focus to speech of bjarne stroup ->
[08:13] <MobiusJedi> does xubuntu have a system log viewer?
[08:20] <_Techie_> should have dmesg
[08:20] <_Techie_> or you can just view /var/log/syslog
[08:20] <_Techie_> less /var/log/syslog
[08:23] <MobiusJedi> mk
[09:02] <atul> How to make  wireless working in Ubuntu-9.04 for sony viao laptop ?
[09:19] <psycho_oreos> what chipset?
[09:29] <atul> psycho_oreos:  AR9285
[09:29] <atul> psycho_oreos:  its for sony vaio
[09:29] <psycho_oreos> atul, hmm can you see wlan0 interface?
[09:31] <atul> psycho_oreos:  how to see that, lspci
[09:31] <atul> ?
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> atul, no through iwconfig
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> and please use pastebin (don't paste in here)
[09:31] <atul> psycho_oreos:  Yes sure
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> atul, if you're pasting more than 2-3 lines :)
[09:33] <atul> psycho_oreos:  yeas I was aware of that, http://pastebin.ca/1842165
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> atul, hmm better yet, do lspci -nnk
[09:34] <atul> psycho_oreos:  ok
[09:36] <atul> psycho_oreos:  http://pastebin.ca/1842166
[09:38] <psycho_oreos> atul, weird, I'd try sudo modprobe ath9k
[11:20] <hexdump_> hello all
[11:20] <hexdump_> Psilocybin_Elf:  You big into growing?
[11:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> my sound stopped working after closing the postal 2 demo.
[11:21] <hexdump_> oh nm
[11:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and lsof | grep pcm but no change
[12:42] <Mystique> hey all, is there any way to make xubuntu take less memory?
[12:42] <Sysi> how much do you have?
[12:42] <Mystique> and is the live cd an indication of how much memory it is going to take?
[12:43] <Mystique> well I'm trying to do a 'personal' virtualization thing with virtualbox
[12:43] <Mystique> and I'd like the host os (xubuntu) to take no more than 1G
[12:43] <Mystique> its on a laptop with 4G
[12:43] <Sysi> xubuntu does well with 512mb
[12:43] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu only takes 256MB memory. It does require about 1.5GB of drive space, though
[12:43] <Mystique> and (unless I'm reading top wrong) it looks like it takes 800MB in ram..
[12:44] <eXpl0i7> you can install fluxbox
[12:44] <Mystique> 8(then six zeros)
[12:44] <Mystique> and the main memory is 4(and then 7 zeros)
[12:44] <charlie-tca> It will use the memory available to it
[12:44] <Mystique> s/zeros/places ..
[12:45] <charlie-tca> Tell VBox to give the machine the amount you want it to use
[12:45] <Mystique> yes, vbox I can limit what each guest os can take..
[12:45] <charlie-tca> I run mine in 384MB in VBox
[12:45] <Sysi> i've used xubuntu, it runs fine with 512mb, hardy even with 256
[12:45] <Mystique> ok, so it'll scale?
[12:46] <Mystique> and if the laptop has a finger print scanner/reader on it.. any chance it'll work? :)
[12:46] <charlie-tca> it will swap
[12:46] <Mystique> I was 'gifted' a latitude z with *two* 256G SSDs
[12:46] <charlie-tca> Don't know if the finger print reader will work
[12:46] <charlie-tca> Does it work in VBox at all?
[12:47] <Mystique> cpu isn't much to write home about.. but the two ssds are nice.
[12:47] <Mystique> and should I use the 9.10 or the daily snaps of 10.04?
[12:48] <charlie-tca> If you can not afford to lose anything, use 9.10
[12:48] <Mystique> box is 2-3 days old..
[12:48] <Mystique> nothing real yet
[12:48] <Mystique> ah, i see..
[12:48] <charlie-tca> 10.04 is still in Alpha stage, and is subject to breaking
[12:49] <charlie-tca> Oportunity! We are testing the beta1 images today
[12:49] <Mystique> I used the 10.04 on a few other machines, but the first 'update' broke *everything*
[12:49] <Mystique> so much in fact the box wouldn't boot :/
[12:49] <charlie-tca> yup
[12:49] <charlie-tca> that's alpha
[12:50] <charlie-tca> This box will be upgraded to lucid today or tomorrow
[12:59] <charlie-tca> eject
[16:19] <daniskami> For some reason, my gnome-screensaver stopped working. The process is still running, and "gnome-screensaver-command -a" works fine, but it won't activate when the computer is idle. What could be the cause? How does the screensaver know the computer is idle? (Xubuntu 9.10)
[16:19] <charlie-tca__> AFAIK, it has not worked in 9.10 since the release
[16:20] <charlie-tca__> It actually quit working automatically about Karmic alpha2
[16:20] <daniskami> uhm, really?
[16:21] <daniskami> Let me google that
[16:38] <daniskami> charlie-tca__: alright, I'm running xscreensaver now, which works well enough for me :)
[16:39] <daniskami> thanks for making me aware of the problem with gnome-screensaver
[16:49] <charlie-tca__> yw, lucid will have xscreensaver by default for Xubuntu
[16:50] <Psilocybin_Elf> Good, no more gnome-screensaver
[16:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello charlie-tca__
[16:58] <charlie-tca__> Hello, Sachse_Siechtum
[16:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> How you doin?
[17:02] <Besogon> hi. no one want to tell me. What have everybody got in fstab file at the strings mentioned about "/media". I'm interested in default values which make ubuntu. (umask or gmask and fmask, gid, uid)
[17:02] <Besogon> ?
[17:07] <charlie-tca__> Besogon: The only thing I have in a fresh Xubuntu Lucid install is the floppy drive
[17:07] <charlie-tca__> you want the line?
[17:08] <Besogon> I need line only in case it line have '/media' note
[17:10] <charlie-tca__>  /dev/fd0  /media/floppy0  auto  rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8  0    0
[17:13] <Besogon> charlie-tca__, thanks. but it's not exactly I need. because in such kind of line (floppy and cdrom or /) no umask gid and uid
[17:13] <charlie-tca__> They aren't needed
[17:14] <Besogon> At all, dosn't it?
[17:15] <charlie-tca__> That ,user, takes care of it for the the cdrom and floppy drives. That allows the user to access the drives
[17:15] <Besogon> This is for on of my disk, but I afraid I hve changed it, UUID=8F39-380E  /media/fat32  vfat    utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[17:15] <charlie-tca__> uid and gid is for NFS, normally
[17:16] <Besogon> NFS? (network file system)?
[17:16] <charlie-tca__> Is that an external drive?
[17:18] <Besogon> no. it's a logical partition. Where can I find deskription of ubuntu special groups?
[17:18] <charlie-tca__> google?
[17:18] <Besogon> gid=46 it's pludev group.
[17:18] <charlie-tca__> or maybe in the server user guide
[17:19] <Besogon> I'll look at it
[17:19] <charlie-tca__> plugdev enables access to external storage devices
[17:25] <Besogon> thanks for help.
[17:46] <rofl0r> hello, i have no sound on the lineout of my macbook 2,1 ; using xubuntu 9.10
[17:46] <rofl0r> any ideas?
[17:47] <rofl0r> the internal crap speakers work
[17:51] <pleia2> rofl0r: I'd first try opening up a sound mixer and make sure nothing is muted
[17:52] <TheSheep> and make sure there is no light inside the socket
[17:52] <rofl0r> light ?
[17:53] <rofl0r> ah, great
[17:53] <rofl0r> thx
[17:53] <rofl0r> it works now ;)
[17:53]  * charlie-tca__ thanks TheSheep for that one
[17:53] <TheSheep> it doubles as a socked for fiberoptic cable
[17:53] <rofl0r> i am so used to problems with pulseaudio that i was seeking there
[17:54] <TheSheep> socket
[17:54] <charlie-tca__> Never would have thought about that
[17:56] <rofl0r> do you know by chance how can i switch the F keys to normal (non laptop) behaviour ?
[17:56] <rofl0r> i.e. press FN + F5 to make volume adjustments, but usually have it on plain F5 functionality
[17:58] <rofl0r> even better would be to assign other keys to them, i.e. F12 get Home
[17:59] <rofl0r> this and other keys are missing on the crapbook
[17:59] <rofl0r> no INSERT as well
[17:59] <charlie-tca__> You can assign your own shortcuts in Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard
[17:59] <rofl0r> which is highly useful in midnight commander
[18:00] <rofl0r> isnt that only for launching apps ?
[18:01] <charlie-tca__> nope
[18:02] <charlie-tca__> I assign the audio keys for volume, mute, play there
[18:02] <rofl0r> if i click on ADD, i have to choose a command
[18:03] <charlie-tca__> yup
[18:03] <charlie-tca__> you mean like audio UP?
[18:03] <rofl0r> meaning an executable
[18:03] <rofl0r> i mean get INSERT when pressing F12
[18:03] <rofl0r> key remapping
[18:03] <charlie-tca__> command : INSERT
[18:04] <charlie-tca__> actually, it is : Insert
[18:04] <charlie-tca__> That is a command
[18:06] <rofl0r> this will behave as if the INSERT key on the keyboard was pressed ? i doubt that.
[18:06] <charlie-tca__> If you place   Insert   in the command box, hit add, they hit F12 for the key
[18:07] <charlie-tca__> If you don't type the command right, it won't work.
[18:07] <charlie-tca__> You can look at Settings -> Window Manager, Keyboard tab for how to spell it
[18:07] <charlie-tca__> I don't think if is all in my mind that it works for me
[18:08] <charlie-tca__> Of course, insert is a toggle key, it may fail
[18:08] <rofl0r> well, it dont work in the midnight commander
[18:09] <rofl0r> but it seems to work there now with ctrl-t
[18:09] <charlie-tca__> Doesn't midnight commander define it's own shortcuts?
[18:09] <rofl0r> the insert key is used to select a file
[18:09] <rofl0r> or multiple files
[18:15] <rofl0r> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[18:15] <rofl0r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Karmic
[18:44] <Blue-Slacker> i need to /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel , can any body to help me
[18:45] <Balsaq> what exactly are you trying to do Blue-Slacker?
[18:46] <Blue-Slacker> Balsaq: i want to make my xfce panel in slackware looklike xubuntu panels
[19:02] <Balsaq> does slackware utilize yum Blue_Slacker?
[19:03] <Balsaq> if so....su _c yum groupinstall xfce'
[19:04] <Balsaq> su -c yum groupinstall xfce'                is what i meant  Blue-Slacker
[19:04] <Balsaq> but it is a guess...
[19:05] <Blue-Slacker> Balsaq: tnx
[19:13] <Sysi> if you mean that they need to look like same, get the albatross theme
[19:29] <arathald> hey all
[19:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello
[19:31] <arathald> how do i get the xfce window manager to display an overlay showing which workspace I'm on (when I switch workspaces), similar to how the gnome one does it (or how to the same app does it in gnome?)? I use several workspaces in a few rows and tend to get lost switching between them
[19:33] <arathald> or, alternatively, is there another worspace manager I could use instead that would give me the behavior I want?
[19:33] <charlie-tca__> Normally, on my 10 workspaces, it is the one that hilights
[19:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> no idea
[19:33] <charlie-tca__> Don't know how gnome does it, I don't use it
[19:33] <arathald> charlie-tca__: i don't have the panel visible
[19:34] <charlie-tca__> Are you hiding it or did it disappear?
[19:34] <arathald> im hiding it, 2 of my workspaces are fullscreen terminals
[19:34] <charlie-tca__> Don't know any way to do it, then
[20:27] <faron1> hello everybody.hopefully all are well today...could somebody explain to me how to install this file file I have sitting on my desk called flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz
[20:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> tar.gz is a archive type...so you should extract it first
[20:29] <faron1> thankyou can you explain that to me a little......
[20:29] <faron1> I havearchive mgr & xarchiver installed on this sys
[20:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/tgz.html
[20:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hope that helps
[20:34] <faron1> why is it opening in  a terminal ?
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> why is what opening?
[20:34] <charlie-tca__> faron1: are you installing 64bit flash?
[20:35] <charlie-tca__> It would be much easier to install a flashplayer from Synaptic Package Manager
[20:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> that was my second thought
[20:53] <idmclean> Greetings, I'm trying to get access to a partition on this computer which has my previous install of Xubuntu. I need to copy a couple of files over to the new install. I've searched around google for a solution but nothing germane has come up.
[20:56] <Besogon> idmclean, did you look mount options carefully?
[20:57] <idmclean> Besogon, yes, but that doesn't mean I understand them well enough to go messing with them. ^_^
[20:59] <Besogon> may be setting  uid=value and gid=value in adequate value could help you.
[21:12] <charlie-tca__> idmclean: what format was the partition?
[21:12] <charlie-tca__> and what partition on the drive?
[21:17] <Besogon> previous install of Xubuntu (more probabyly it's ext3)
[21:17] <Xpistos> can someone help me set a user to auto login for xubuntu 9.10
[21:18] <charlie-tca__> Besogon: What version of xubuntu was the previous install?
[21:18] <Besogon> I don't know. I see no more then I
[21:19] <Xpistos> all the docs I can find are before ubuntu went to the new splash
[21:19] <charlie-tca__> Okay, so let's have idmclean answer
[21:20] <charlie-tca__> Xpistos: I don't know how to do that
[21:20] <idmclean> charlie-tca, thanks for responding. It's a ext3 partition. NewWorld in #Ubuntu got me straightened out. ^_^
[21:21] <Xpistos> well does xubuntu use gm?
[21:21] <Xpistos> gdm i mean
[21:21] <charlie-tca__> idmclean: please do not crosspost your questions
[21:21] <charlie-tca__> that will get you banned in the future
[21:22] <idmclean> charlie-tca, okay. Might as well ban me then. ^_^ I posted the question here first. When I got a less than helpful response, I decided to go elsewhere for help. Enjoy.
[21:23] <charlie-tca__> Xpistos: yes, xubuntu uses gdm
[21:24] <idmclean> Besogon, thanks for trying to teach me to fish. I do appreciate the sentiment. Enjoy.
[21:29] <Xpistos> charlie-tca__: I may have found it
[21:36] <Xpistos> charlie-tca__: when I added the new user and said to log that in instead of the admin, it boots right in
[21:36] <Xpistos> charlie-tca__: I didn't think that was going to happen
[21:37] <charlie-tca__> Great! Glad you got it working.
[21:37] <Xpistos> and I will have to take a closer look at xfce cause it has matured quite abit
[21:40] <Xpistos> one other thing how do I get the vnc server to start at  boot
[21:43] <charlie-tca__> Add it to startup and sessions
[21:44] <charlie-tca__> Well, actually, that would only start it when you log in
[21:44] <charlie-tca__> Not so good if you have more than one user
[21:55] <_Techie_> !rc.d
[21:56] <_Techie_> if you want something to run before login read up on runlevels
[21:56] <_Techie_> http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8116-an-introduction-to-services-runlevels-and-rcd-scripts
[21:56] <_Techie_> or cron
[21:56] <_Techie_> !cron
[21:59] <charlie-tca__> .me thinks he's right!
[21:59] <charlie-tca__> of course, ubuntu/xubuntu no longer use different run levels, just need to add to rc2.d and rc3.d