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RodenskyHello PPL! :) quick question - in menu.lst (grub), what does "#Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue" represents?00:35
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chiseli use firefox and google chrome, and most pages are taking entirely too long to load recently, what gives?\01:44
chiselonce again the vaunted ubuntu community fails to live up to its reputation.01:47
fabioI need some help01:53
DaughainAnyone ever runs across kubuntu desktop repeatedly not instaling properly?02:01
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Guest20630new guy question02:20
Guest20630the bar above the file bar and system popups show up as lines and dots02:21
Guest20630i tryed looking in the forms and the wiki02:21
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zeltakAAA[A02:33
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zeltakyes02:33
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robertzaccouris kde 4.4 faser than gnome?03:00
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Guest960i forgot my root password03:26
Guest960hey03:26
Guest960i forgot my root password\03:26
Guest960please help03:26
Guest960hi03:50
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Juskhi04:47
FersureWhy aren't the 'desktop icons' included in a default installation? By which I mean the Home/Wastebin icons from Jaunty. I think they make life a lot easier. Any chance of them being re-added?04:57
FersureIn 10.04? And if not, 10.10?04:57
tamrancan anyone please give me the rundown on getting pulseaudio working in Kubuntu 9.10?05:12
tamran00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)05:13
CartoonHellos05:50
Cartoonwhere does kubuntu keep its grub menu? there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst05:50
Cartoonthe only place i see the menu is /boot/grub/grub.conf and it says not to edit, auto gen from scripts05:51
Cartoondoh, super05:58
noaXessgood morning.06:09
noaXessCartoon: it's new in /etc/default/grub06:10
Cartoonyes i found that out06:10
noaXessCartoon: after editing /etc/default/grub run sudo update-grub06:10
Cartoonand how will update grub work from a non bootable system06:11
noaXessis pulseaudio server default installed or ned i do it manually to get it running? new skype linux version needs full pulseaudio server..06:11
noaXessCartoon: what means a "non bootable system"? do you get the grub kernel list?06:12
CartoonnoaXess, i changed partitions all around, resized, ect06:15
noaXessCartoon: so you can get grub menu? then you can edit manually the kernel entry06:16
noaXesscan you get into recovery mode?06:16
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Cartoonno it didnt work06:17
robertzaccouris using kde wallet really necessary?06:26
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thiefysysi is a good man.07:42
MozillaGueirrillare there any option which exist to make kubuntu look more like the latest windows(dark n glossy)??? What about a docking station???07:46
DaughainWhy would you want it to look like windows???? And try kde-look.org07:48
bazhangI think he is running gnome and crossposting here07:49
DaughainMorning, bazhang07:49
bazhangDaughain, hi07:49
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ubsafderhello07:54
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ubsafderwhat is tyhe licence of Landscape  ?07:59
ubsafdergpl ?08:00
FireCrotchubsafder: I don't think Landscape is GPL08:16
FireCrotchubsafder: The Landscape client is GPL, actually. The server is not08:18
ubsafderok the server is what then ?08:33
ubsafdercan i bu a licence for ever  or only leased ?08:34
MozillaGueirrilli installed a new theme but after reboot i dnt see the change. How do i make it happen?08:35
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ubsafderanyone know the long term cost of a ubuntu installation for a business ?08:40
ubsafderwhat budget should we allocate ?08:40
ubsafderwhat's does canonical estimates ?08:41
ubsafderor goals08:41
OxDeadC0deubsafder: you probably want a tech support staff just like you would with windows, but no license fee's is good. It would still depend on intended usage just like in windows. (I do not work for canonical)08:41
ubsafderwe would rather not use tech support from other08:42
Franek_Kimonohow can i remove package which's broken?08:44
OxDeadC0deubsafder: personally I've been using ubuntu since 8.04 (and linux since 1996), and have never paid a cent, but I did spend a lot of time learning it (Just like I would have had to with windows)08:44
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: sudo apt-get purge package-name (I think?)08:44
ubsafderok thanks i know basicaly there will be no price difference in the long run for the businesses08:44
Franek_KimonoOxDeadC0de: doesnt work08:44
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: sorry sudo apt-get --purge remove package-name08:45
Franek_KimonoOxDeadC0de: naah08:46
Franek_KimonoOxDeadC0de: http://pastebin.com/bgfcY8cW08:46
Franek_Kimono:(08:46
Franek_Kimonoim getting seriously frustrated08:47
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: there is one other way, but it may leave files behind on the hd, and is very manual (removing from apt's database file entirely manually.. I) and dangerous08:48
Franek_Kimonoi dont want to remove whole dkpg db :<08:49
Franek_Kimonoi'm getting those binaries from other similiar host08:49
Franek_Kimono\maybe that'll work08:49
Franek_Kimono1st time happened08:49
TimberHi, for all you newbies out there, to get op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /08:49
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: that's not what I'm suggesting08:49
TimberFranek_Kimono: that's not what I'm suggesting08:49
OxDeadC0deListen to Timber and have your whole OS wiped clean. he's trying to hurt you.08:50
TimberListen to Timber and have your whole OS wiped clean. he's trying to hurt you.08:50
bazhang!ops | Timber08:50
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OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: /var/lib/dpkg/status is the database file, you can go through it, find the entry you want to manually remove, and remove  it. Be very careful and make a backup first!08:51
TimberFranek_Kimono: /var/lib/dpkg/status is the database file, you can go through it, find the entry you want to manually remove, and remove  it. Be very careful and make a backup first!08:51
bazhangthanks08:51
Franek_Kimonoi made it, finally08:51
ikoniatoo slow, sorry08:51
Franek_KimonoOxDeadC0de: i pushed the binaries08:51
Franek_Kimonoand it worked08:51
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: pushed the binaries?08:52
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Franek_KimonoOxDeadC0de: yup, pushed them to that crazy machine, placed them on their places and simple purge worked just fine08:52
OxDeadC0deFranek_Kimono: oic, awesome =)08:53
Franek_Kimonoi think i'll get back to lfs08:53
Franek_Kimonothose crazy package managers aren't always working fine08:53
lukakhey can anyone help me??08:53
Guest23380For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /08:53
lukakcan someone help me with 1 command in console?08:54
lukakplz?08:54
Franek_Kimonolukak: shoot it, dont ask to ask08:54
Guest23380For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /08:54
lukakit says that i have to close mozila firefox in console08:54
lukaki need to close it in console way08:54
Franek_Kimonokillall -9 firefox-bin ?08:55
lukakhmm not working... i remember it was somethink like rfm- or somethink like that08:56
OxDeadC0dekillall firefox -908:56
Guest233809- xoferif llallik08:56
Franek_Kimonops axuw|grep firefox08:56
Guest23380xoferif perg|wuxa sp08:56
Franek_Kimonograb the pid and kill it!08:56
Guest23380!ti llik dna dip eht barg08:56
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OxDeadC0delamer08:56
Guest23380remal08:56
lukakFirefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.08:57
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lukakit has this08:57
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OxDeadC0dein the console type killall firefox -908:57
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lukakand plz stop writing backwards...08:58
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lukakfirefox: no process killed08:58
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lukakthats what is says08:58
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OxDeadC0deps -A | grep firefox like Franek_Kimono said08:59
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|eagles05138785|Guest23380:  and Franek_Kimono what language are you guys after08:59
Franek_Kimonocan someone do something with this annoying bot?08:59
|eagles05138785|hey mquin08:59
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lukakboon a ma i09:00
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OxDeadC0deI think it should autoban anyone that says 'rm -rf /' (DO NOT TYPE THAT IN UNLESS YOU WISH TO DELETE EVERYTHING)09:00
|eagles05138785|ty ikonia09:00
ikoniahello09:00
lukakyo09:00
lukakhmm its still not working09:01
Franek_Kimono:)09:01
lukakit says no process to kill09:01
lukakwhen i type killall09:01
Franek_Kimonolukak: do you still have launched firefox which tells you to kill it manually from commandline?09:01
lukakFirefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.09:02
lukaki restarted already09:02
lukakbut nothing better..09:02
mitjabWAZZAP09:02
OxDeadC0deI would assume firefox would create a 'lock file' that contains a pid number, then it would would check to see if that pid is running and is named 'firefox'..09:03
lukakso what should i do now?09:03
mitjablukak09:04
mitjabrofl09:04
ikonia!topic > mitjab09:04
ubottumitjab, please see my private message09:04
OxDeadC0delukak: cd ~/.mozilla/firefox , ls, find the directory  ending with .default (mine is z1r3icqd.default), cd do that dir, then rm the lock file09:05
OxDeadC0decd to that dir*09:07
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lukakmitjab is mađar09:12
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Zusdoes kubuntu-desktop retain ubuntu settings like compiz and emerald?09:21
OxDeadC0decompiz/emerald settings arn't stored by a desktop manager so they will work independant, but you will have to set up kde to use compiz instead of kwin09:22
Zuswhen i relog back to my gnome session, will everything still be  as before?09:23
OxDeadC0deit should09:24
OxDeadC0debackups are your friend still!09:25
Zuswhen i installed the kubuntu-desktop i set kdm as default when i rebooted it was the  kubuntu splash and login but i didnt see where i can click to choose gnome session..09:27
OxDeadC0dethere should be an icon somewhere, unless it uninstalled the ubuntu-desktop metapackage when you installed that?09:27
Zushrmm how do i find out? im not worried about my home folder, thats on a different HDD all together  back ups are good...09:30
OxDeadC0deI'd have to log out or start a new session to look for the icon, but I know it's there I've used it before09:31
TheGrammarFreakHello09:40
TheGrammarFreakCould someone enlighten me as to what packegesto install on ny kubuntu system to turn it into the kubuntu netbook edition?09:41
TheGrammarFreakI want to try it, but don't really want to have to re-install09:41
MamarokTheGrammarFreak: it is called plasma-netbook IIRC, just a second09:41
MamarokTheGrammarFreak: indeed, the package you need is plasma-netbook09:42
TheGrammarFreakAwesome09:42
Mamarokif you don't want it anymore, just remove it and restart KDE09:42
TheGrammarFreakJust that one?09:42
TheGrammarFreakCool09:42
Mamarokit will drag in the necessary dependencies09:42
TheGrammarFreakCool09:42
TheGrammarFreakIs there a way to switch between the two workspaces, like in the ubuntu variant?09:43
TheGrammarFreakthe gnome version09:43
Mamaroknot AFAIK, but you could ask in #kubuntu-netbook09:45
MamarokI never used it since I have no netbook09:45
TheGrammarFreakNeither do I, I just like the UI09:45
TheGrammarFreakI was testing it in a VM until now09:45
MamarokTheGrammarFreak: just be patient with your question, I don't know if many are around yet09:50
TheGrammarFreakYe09:50
TheGrammarFreakI may have to go soon, I'm in a lesson :S09:50
areichman_TheGrammarFreak: if you right click on the desktop and go to properties or settings or something like that, it should give you an option to change what type of workspace you're in, from netbook to regular and back09:51
TheGrammarFreakCool09:51
TheGrammarFreakI'll give it a go when it's installed09:52
areichman_TheGrammarFreak: if it doesn't work (and it might not, I have a weird version of KDE running), I know that the option is somewhere like that, in the desktop settings. It might have to be accessed through system settings09:52
olskolircI downloaded a bunch of widgets and they all read "could not create a python ScriptEngine for the plasma pyWeather widget - what wrong?09:54
TheGrammarFreakBugger09:55
TheGrammarFreakSchool internet blocks the repos09:55
TheGrammarFreakI'll try when I get home, thanks for your help guys09:56
Machtinhm.. where can i set draft as default printing quality?09:56
Zuswhat is the ublog under the desktop?09:58
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akhtar__hello10:01
akhtar__any body guide me10:01
OxDeadC0de!ask akhtar__10:02
Zusim new myself to be honest10:02
OxDeadC0deoh, don't ask to ask just ask the question is what I was hoping for10:02
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kume_some body help me or do freindship?10:04
kume_hi OXDEAD CODE10:04
Zuswhy does this kwallet keep comming up everytime i do something?10:08
areichman_Zus: can you be more specific?10:09
areichman_Zus: the ublog is the microblogging widget; it lets you post to twitter or identi.ca from the desktop instead of going to their websites10:09
Zusareichman_,  i just installed the kubuntu-desktop and im looking at it, when i open amork the kdewallet  opened, then when i connectect to my internet and configured the  time clock...10:11
areichman_it sounds like it's a first-run thing. All those things are trying to access the wallet and, since you've never given permission before, they ask for it10:12
areichman_for common things that you trust (like the clock settings) consider giving it extended permission so it stops asking10:13
areichman_it's really up to you what you want to let access the wallet with or without asking for permission each time10:13
Zus installing the enviroment thru   gnmoes terminal was in effect as if i used the live cd?10:14
OxDeadC0deamarok always asks me to unlock the wallet10:14
areichman_sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?10:14
Zusareichman_, aye10:14
areichman_do you tell it to ask each time or not to ask anymore?10:14
Zuswell i  apt-get anyways (i hear its basically the same thing)10:14
Zusi click cancel10:15
areichman_that's your problem, you never give it permission so it keeps asking for it10:15
areichman_why don't you want amarok to have permission to access your wallet?10:15
Zusdidnt know what it was hehe10:17
areichman_ah10:17
areichman_amarok is your music player10:17
areichman_but it accesses lots of online sources10:17
areichman_like last.fm and other things10:17
Zusjust been using linux since karmic, and wanted to give kde a shot before lucid.10:17
areichman_I think (don't quote me on it, though) that amarok is trying to access your wallet to store those passwords10:18
areichman_are you a fan so far?10:18
|eagles05138785|it acutally wants to access the wallet to store the last.fm password10:18
|eagles05138785|thats all10:18
|eagles05138785|OxDeadC0de: see what i just said regarding the wallet and amarok10:19
Zuswouldnt it use the key ring feom  gnome? \10:19
areichman_Zus: I think that's a future goal, that gnome and kde will both use the same set of passwords10:20
areichman_as far as I know, though, they don't yet10:20
areichman_it's an issue that people are aware of, though10:20
|eagles05138785|Zus: no kde uses the wallet which is the same function as the keyring10:20
Franek_KimonoPerun_: wow player? ;)10:20
Zusareichman_, i like it blue is better than orange and brown ( on the surface)10:21
areichman_I agree :-)10:21
Zus|eagles05138785|,  thanks thats what figured and was wondering why it didnt get stuff from the keyring,.. explains a bunch.10:22
|eagles05138785|Zus: no problem im sure something is in the works though to allow for interoperability10:23
|eagles05138785|i honestly think there should be a choice between the 210:23
|eagles05138785|if you access amarok from gnome use the keyring if from kde use the wallet instead10:23
Zusi used the live disc and seen the file manager do things that i can sure take advantage of...that i havent made aware of in nautilus10:23
Zus|eagles05138785|, i thought it would and when it asked i wondered who/what was asking for these things.... feel better knowing its just 2 different "safes" in a sense10:24
|eagles05138785|ya10:24
areichman_Zus: dolphin is a pretty wonderful program. And KDE is general is really good at taking advantage of filesystems located all kinds of places10:25
kume_any body want to be frdind of mine?10:25
kume_i am from pakistan / karachi10:26
Zusareichman_,  i like that i can split the folder into column, so easy to cut and paste and move files and see the tree of nested folders that way10:26
areichman_I know what you mean :-)10:27
areichman_I use that all the time to split and show my local system on one side any my server on the other. It's the easiest way to transfer files between them10:27
Zusi love the simplicity of nautilus but i watched a youtube video and seen it do a few things i liked...10:28
Zusareichman_, (if only i can get the LinuxMint color scheme)10:28
areichman_no idea what color scheme they use, but schemes aren't that difficult to change. It's in system settings > appearance > colors10:29
areichman_comes with quite a few presets, too10:30
Zusthe have the prettiest greens and greys and blacks ( my favorite colors then the blue haha)10:30
areichman_check out some of the presets, I think they ship one like that10:31
Zusbut i was told mint isn't Ubuntu its a whole different development altogether10:31
areichman_that's true, but they both use KDE and I think that KDE is the one that ships the color schemes10:32
areichman_take a look, it can't hurt10:32
Zusim actually for the system configuration so i can update and install what  repositories  i need being this is kde not gnome10:33
areichman_Zus: why should you need to change your repositories?10:33
areichman_the program to do that is kpackagekit but I don't think you need to change them10:33
ddavids_pls how do i edit my network config to automatically detect network?10:33
areichman_ddavids_: a wireless network?10:34
areichman_Zus: the same repositories will give you updates for both kde and gnome, depending on which ones you have installed10:34
Zusareichman_, i see.10:36
Perun_Franek_Kimono: nie10:37
Zusareichman_,  whats the email client like evolution?10:38
Zuskmail?10:38
areichman_Zus: kmail is the KDE email client but Thunderbird (made by Mozilla) is also available on linux10:39
kume_on this channel every body chat only for ubuntu linux nothing else?10:39
areichman_I use kmail and really like it but it's in the process of being ported to the new KDE email framework right now so it might go through some growing pains10:39
bazhangkume_, correct, kubuntu support10:40
kume_any body do not have nay thing other than the topic of linux ubuntu software etc10:40
bazhangkume_, #kubuntu-offtopic10:40
kume_any body has some relation with textile or garment industry10:41
Zusareichman_,  id rather use the one from the  system. i never did think of using thuderbird10:41
Zusthunder^**10:41
bazhangkume_, that is offtopic here; you can chat in #kubuntu-offtopic10:41
areichman_Zus: I really like kmail10:41
areichman_what kind of email account do you use?10:41
Zusi have a yahoo, and a gmail....i let my hotmail and aol rot away  like 9 years ago lol10:43
kume_Thanks for guiding me for offtopic10:44
areichman_Zus: I know what you mean. If you're going to set it up now, instructions are here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7879910:45
areichman_it's a little bit confusing to set up kmail the first time10:45
areichman_you first have to put an email address in the identity you want to use, then set up accounts for sending and recieving (using the information on the page I just linked you to)10:45
Zusthanks lol now  i cant find it haha10:46
areichman_can't find kmail?10:46
areichman_all right, time for me to hit the hay. Good night, everybody10:47
Zusare lol i  did  just now,... and evolution as well10:49
Zusthanks areichman_10:49
Zusnighters10:49
kume_good night?10:52
kume_its evening here10:52
Zusi dont have to make a new GPG/PGP key though right?10:52
Zusjust realized if  key ring and kdewallet dont share what about the pgp/gpg  for encypting email ?10:53
Zusis facebook part of the identi.ca?11:00
dmdevoteesup11:02
Zushello11:02
dmdevoteeanybody knows an alternative of pysdm on kubuntu?11:02
Zusi dont sorry... kinda still new11:02
dmdevoteeis for auto-mount drivers at start11:03
dmdevoteedrives*11:03
Zusthat seems useful,..11:05
FonFonhay guys does anyone know if quassel supports downloading?11:07
FireCrotchFonFon: Quassel does not support any form of DCC, that includes downloading11:08
FonFoncheers11:09
FireCrotchI believe that support for DCC is being worked on11:09
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TAPTCHI11:20
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dmdevoteeanybody knows an alternative of pysdm on kubuntu?11:36
OopSвсем привет12:28
bazhang!ru | OopS12:28
ubottuOopS: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:28
OopSВопрос-почему в фононе падают сторонние плееры, использующие библиотеку gstreamer, и как с этим багом бороться))12:30
bazhangOopS, english here12:30
bazhangOopS, /join #ubuntu-ru for Russian12:30
OopSyes? im idiot))12:30
[-Haza-]Hey folks. Im still looking for decent desktop recording software.. Istanbul is just too buggy (randon crashes)12:31
[-Haza-]Can anyone recommend a good desktop recorder?12:31
bazhang!screencast12:31
ubottuSome programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.12:31
[-Haza-]bazhang: Thanks buddy :)12:31
[-Haza-]bazhang: Anything YOU would recommend in the list above?12:32
bazhang[-Haza-], never used them, sorry not to be of more assistance12:32
[-Haza-]bazhang: No worries :D12:33
[-Haza-]i'll give them a bash12:33
razorxsbonjour tout le monde13:09
razorxshello all13:11
[-Haza-]How about video editing software? Any recommendations? :D13:16
[-Haza-]I don't need anyhting amazing. Just need to cut / copy / pase. Maybe add some notes / subtitles13:16
[-Haza-]and a sound track / file13:16
freinhar1hi!13:18
freinhar1i just moved my old 9.10/ext3 harddisk to a external usb harddisk enclosure. unfortunately lucid doesn13:19
freinhar1't seem to gt the charset right..13:19
freinhar1umlauts aren't displayed right.13:20
franzmaximilianUsing Kubuntu karmic since months. having the following problem: switched on this morning and all windows do not have any borders. It is impossible to maximize, minimize, resize any window. I haven't modified anything in my desktop settings! This is totally crazy!  what can I do?13:31
Vroomfondlethat means that kwin has crashed for some reason13:32
franzmaximilianwell, what do I have to do?13:32
freinhar1start kwin or kwin --replace13:32
Vroomfondletry in a terminal: kwin --replace, see if that works13:32
franzmaximiliani will... it's on a different computer... will let you know in minutes13:33
franzmaximilianVroomfondle and freinhar1 : I can open konsole but NOT type in it!!!13:35
franzmaximilianit's frustrating.......13:35
Vroomfondlefranzmaximilian: press ctrl-alt-f1. You should see a terminal. Then press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to graphics.13:35
franzmaximiliangoing to test13:35
freinhar1if he's on intel graphics he might not come back ;)13:36
Vroomfondlewell, that'll learn him to stop using cheap hardware ;)13:36
* freinhar1 has never ever had a laptop without intel graphics13:37
franzmaximilianHey Vroomfondle, you have some spare bucks for me?  What the fuck!  I buy what i can afford. Your dcomment is highly offensive  I earn little money honestly. do I have to be a thief?13:39
genii!language13:40
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:40
franzmaximilianI have been offended. do not bother me13:40
* Vroomfondle passes franzmaximilian a chill-pill13:40
freinhar1franzmaximilian: nobodys offending nobody!13:40
VroomfondleI was only being silly13:40
franzmaximilianthen keep your sillyness for your friends13:41
VroomfondleNo.13:41
freinhar1franzmaximilian: this isn't a fun free area!13:42
geniiAside from which, being offended does not entitle you to become offensive yourself13:42
franzmaximilianfreinhar1,  I reboot that computer and now is back to normal behaviour.  What kind of problem was that?  I didn't do anything after bootin the first time and finding no borders on windows13:42
freinhar1franzmaximilian: i'd call that a nasty, hardly reproduceable bug.13:43
franzmaximiliangenii, so i must get offended and stay silent?  Offending is for free for the first that does it and nobody corrects him?  I dint hear any excuses from that guy13:44
freinhar1franzmaximilian: besides, the usual it-crow solution did the trick. 'have you tried turning it off and on again...' *scnr*13:44
geniifranzmaximilian: You don't have to remain silent. You just have to abide by the channel rules... one of which is no profane language.13:45
franzmaximilianprofane?  did I mention God?  I wouldn't ever do it13:46
geniieg: No swearing13:47
franzmaximilianstill, someone offended me and i get criticized if i get upset because of that. The incident will be closed AFTER i will recieve excuses.13:48
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franzmaximilianso, are you all accomplices? No excuses ?    are you all in favour of joking about users that can't afford buying expensive hardware?13:50
geniifranzmaximilian: I have no opinion on your hardware or lack of it, only on enforcing the channel rules.13:51
freinhar1franzmaximilian: i guess everybodys waiting for you to realize that there was no offense.13:51
franzmaximilianwell, I felt offended by a silly, totally irrespectful joke13:52
freinhar1cruel, cruel world!13:52
franzmaximiliani mean, this is not a chit chat channel where to play kids13:53
franzmaximiliani may well accept jokes in a different environment13:53
geniiVroomfondle: Your "chill-pill" remark after the fact was uncalled for, by the way.13:53
Vroomfondlegenii: yeah, accepted, sorry13:54
* genii makes a fresh pot of coffee, passes out the mugs13:54
Vroomfondlegot mildly annoyed for a moment13:55
freinhar1does dolphin specify a charset when mounting a ext3 partition? if so: how do i find out which charset is being used?13:57
franzmaximilianso, any idea what can have caused Kwin to crash at boot ?13:57
freinhar1franzmaximilian: i already made a suggestion.13:58
franzmaximiliana hardly reproducible bug you mean?13:59
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: look at mtab, or `mount`13:59
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: already did, doesn't tell anything14:00
freinhar1i hate things like that! it's 2010! i don't want to care about charsets anymore! *narf*14:02
Guest31615hello14:04
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pwnkillerhello14:04
pwnkillerhello14:05
genii!hi14:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!14:05
pwnkillerhi14:05
pwnkillerfor a min thought i was alone14:05
geniipwnkiller: No, it's just a bit quiet at the moment14:06
pwnkilleric14:06
pwnkillercan xchat be installed in kubuntu?14:06
pwnkilleri got err msg something about incorrectly installed GLib14:07
Vroomfondlepwnkiller: it's in the repositories so you can install it using kpackagekit / apt-get14:08
pwnkillerthat and i'd rather use synaptic package manager but i can't seem to get that installed either, cool but i could hv swore i looked and didnt c it14:09
pwnkilleri'll look again14:10
Vroomfondlesynaptic should be in there too, unless your repository config / cache is a bit messed-up somehow14:11
IppatsuManHi all. I enabled the strigi file indexing since I'd like to use it for fast searching specific text in a lot of PDF files. The question is: how can I use it? KFind doesn't seem to use strigi, and strigi-client has as dependency strigi-daemon, which I gues would be useless. Am I missing something obvious?14:11
pwnkillerhey is it possible to merge an old unused partition with one that is currently in use?14:11
pwnkillerReally?14:11
pwnkillerhmmm... i lokked for both, didnt c them, so i tried dl them frm web.14:12
Vroomfondlein a terminal, try "apt-cache search synaptic"14:12
pwnkillerk14:13
pwnkillerknow how to merge an unused partition with one that is in use?14:18
geniipwnkiller: Boot to livecd and use gparted from there to merge/change partition structuring14:19
crissi_I am looking for contact info for potential speakers for FOSSCON2010 from the kubuntu project.  Where can I find this information14:19
pwnkillerlive cd?14:20
geniipwnkiller: Yes. Either a (K)ubuntu installation CD, or a GParted bootable CD14:20
pwnkillerok but twould i then lose all my data?14:21
pwnkilleri mean other than the os14:21
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freinhar1how do i find out which locales are available on my system?14:24
freinhar1$LANG states C, is that some iso charset or utf8?14:25
Franek_KimonoC is C, true posix locale14:25
freinhar1so no umlauts there14:26
fabio666they are in /usr/share/i18n/locales/14:26
Franek_Kimonoyup, no umlauts, no country-specific chars14:26
Franek_Kimonojust truely posix english C14:26
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: do you know how i switch that to any other utf8 locale?14:27
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: install your locales via apt-get, or check /usr/lib/locale/ for your locales14:28
Franek_Kimonothen export LANG value to your preffered language14:28
Franek_Kimonoand run locale-gen14:28
freinhar1already ran locale-gen but that didn't do anything14:29
Franek_Kimonoif you've already generated locales, simple 'export LANG=en_EN.UTF-8' (example) should work14:29
Franek_Kimonoadd it to your profile or even /etc/profile14:29
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: i remember that locale-gen generates the locale files but i don't know where the config file is which specifies which locale are being generated14:30
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: /etc/default/locale14:31
Franek_Kimono:)14:31
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: changed that, but locale-gen didn't do anything. (last time i used that was years ago on gentoo, thought i'll never ever need that again ;) )14:32
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: pastebin me your `locale-gen` output and tell me which language you want to use14:33
freinhar1there is  not output, just quits14:34
Franek_Kimonouu14:34
Franek_Kimonoso you possibly have no locales14:34
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: http://pastebin.com/u73SyVzK14:34
Franek_Kimonothat's output of properly made locales14:34
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1:14:35
Franek_Kimonoii  locales              2.9+git20090617-3    common files for locale support14:35
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: can you paste your /etc/locale.gen ?14:35
Franek_Kimonodo you have this package?14:35
Franek_Kimono`dpkg -l locales`14:35
Franek_Kimonohm14:36
Franek_Kimonoi've only /etc/locale.alias14:36
freinhar12.11+git20100304-114:36
freinhar1(lucid)14:36
Franek_Kimonoso you have locales14:37
Franek_Kimono /usr/lib/locale/ contains your locales?14:37
freinhar1Franek_Kimono: /usr/lib/locale/ contains some chinese zh_* stuff which i can't use at all14:38
Franek_Kimonouuu14:39
Franek_Kimonofreinhar1: so you must generate proper locale14:40
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Guest507hi every body14:55
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spirov92can you guys point me to some howto for setting up multiple screens? They're the same resolution-1600x1200, one is the laptop's screen, the other is an external monitor15:19
spirov92ofc I want to be able to move windows between monitors ;)15:19
spirov92it seems the KDE display dialog only supports cloning the output15:20
spirov92btw where can I adjust brightness on a software level? power manager seems to fail at that15:23
olskolirchow do I stop these preview windows from popping up when I mouse over them please?15:26
spirov92olskolirc: in what program?\15:26
spirov92do you mean in dolphin?15:26
olskolirckubuntu pager15:26
olskolirctask bar rather spirov9215:27
olskolirci don't like thse preview windows popping up in my way - hell i can see what they are why do we need this stupid feature15:27
spirov92olskolirc: you mean the tooltips displaying the window title?15:27
rgukthyperconjugation15:27
spirov92or the actual window previews?15:28
n8whey15:28
spirov92olskolirc: seems you're afk...I think the previews require a compositing window manager such as kwin with effects on or compiz. In compiz, you can disable them in the KDE compatibility plugin in ccsm. Not sure for kwin15:31
olskolircyes spirov9215:32
olskolircyeah im on kwin spirov9215:32
spirov92olskolirc: there must be an option to disable these somewhere in desktop effects settings15:33
olskolircok spirov92 thanks15:33
olskolircgot it spirov92 it was in the taskbar settings15:38
spirov92hmm...the suspend to ram function seems broken, it just locks the desktop15:40
spirov92oh wait...it works but with a delay...weird15:41
DraconisHey anyone know any mmorpgs native to linux....as in, they work without wine or anything resembling it?15:57
DraconisAnd not Second Life >.>;;15:58
kdawgwow this is weird15:59
KoliaDraconis: eternal lands?15:59
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kdawgquassel is going to take some getting used to16:02
kdawgif i am going to use it16:03
kdawganyone know how to configure vnc16:09
kdawgafter install with aptitude16:10
kdawgdirectvnc16:10
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daskreechkdawg: Not sure. Normally somethings simple like ip address port username password16:23
kdawgyeah16:24
kdawgbut where16:24
kdawglol16:24
kdawgi am used to windows16:24
kdawglol16:24
FloodBotK1kdawg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:24
kdawgi mean i am not completely noob but close16:24
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daskreechkdawg: hmm use a VNC frontend then16:26
kdawgdon't have one isntalled urg searchhing google as we speak and Dragon Player won't clothes16:26
kdawgi hate being a noob16:28
ncfi1013_will there be any ipod support in amarok now or in the future? anybody who has any knowledge of where i can find some info please let me know. thanks.16:29
daskreechkdawg: What would you like help with first?16:31
daskreechncfi1013_: #amarok of course and yes there will be and Apple will break it then they wont have it then they will get it done again16:32
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Guest19527ciao16:40
Guest19527film16:41
N3RDV4D3Rcomo uso o IRC16:50
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genii!es | N3RDV4D3R16:54
ubottuN3RDV4D3R: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:54
N3RDV4D3Rpreciso aprender a usar o IRC16:55
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buckfastWhere can I set Kubuntu to automatically mount internal hdd partitions?17:52
buckfastNever mind, found the place17:53
dany2hi all17:58
dany2I have a problem, I installed win7 and now grub is down.. I have tried to solve this problem in the classical way... mounting the partition of linux in mnt etc but when I do: sudo chroot /mnt i get:17:58
dany2chroot: cannot run command /bin/bash: no such file or directory17:58
dany2I have kubuntu 32 bit17:58
dany2and I'm using kubuntu 64 bit for the live cd. I have also tried using ubuntu 32 bit live17:58
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clustermagnetgetns, i suspect there is an issue with my kubuntu install...18:00
clustermagnetif i SSH into a remote machine, and run virt-manager for example... the app does not run18:00
clustermagnetX forwarding is enabled... i have tripple checked18:00
clustermagnetevery other user is able to run X apps on the same machine without an issue18:00
clustermagnetplz help :) thanks18:00
dany2no one?18:01
EagleScreendany2: check CD for defects18:04
dany2no defects, I assure you18:04
EagleScreenor check RAM for defects18:04
dany2I have tried 3 cds18:04
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dany2holy crap18:10
dany2it's impossible this thing18:10
dany2bloody grub!18:10
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Draconisanyon e play urban terror?18:21
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raoul_Hi18:30
raoul_someone can help me to enable blowfish encryption in Konversation please18:31
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dany2solved18:38
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zen933k_Hi Everyone, looking for a safe way to clean up Grub loader. I seem to be getting a lot of kern updates and my list is getting pretty.19:39
llutzzen933k_: remove old kernels19:40
zen933k_llutz: Is that a script that cleans the old ones? Or are you telling me to just remove them from the grubs lsettings19:41
llutzzen933k_: use aptitude/apt-get to get rid of old, not used kernels19:42
zen933k_llutz: I've been googling, is there a good page that explains this in more details?19:42
llutzzen933k_: use "uname -r" to find your current running kernel-version, use "dpkg -l linux-image* |grep ii" to find all installed kernel, and remove those not wanted19:43
zen933k_llutz: Thanks for the info :)19:45
clustermagnetguys... pulse audio playback isnt working19:56
clustermagnetplz help19:56
v1ttu_why did u install pulse on kubuntu?19:58
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thopiekarhi .I'm a member of the Canola project and atm almost the only person working on Canola.. I need more people here at #canola to improve the code.. the player is great and many plugins are available.. please help. the developters that where working on it in the past were paied to work on it - now they have other priorities so - we need you!20:13
geniithopiekar: You may have more takers if you asked in somewhere like #kubuntu-devel20:14
thopiekargenii: thanks genii20:15
thopiekarthis project isn't using kde/qt but ok :P20:15
thopiekar.. it's using ecore + other libs20:16
geniithopiekar: Perhaps #ubuntu-devel or ask where may be a good place of the folks in #ubuntu-motu20:16
GalvatronHi20:19
geniithopiekar: Apologies. I don't know what might be a good place to ask for you now20:21
thopiekar:/ the thing is that the application was made for nokia internet tablets that have touchscreens but I think it would be at least usefull for ubuntu if it is running on other touchscreen devices..20:22
thopiekarbut thank you genii for help..20:23
thopiekarit would be at least great if someone gives feedback on it at #canola :)20:23
GalvatronSomething happend to color depth or palette in my Kubuntu 9.10. All the bitmaps, including wallpapers and login screen, look like GIFs, with visible borders beetwen color levels (the gradients are not fluent). The same with LXDE and withput COmpiz.20:24
GalvatronIt is like there were onlu 256 color or else20:27
v1ttu_what graphics card do u have?20:28
GalvatronRadeon 9200SE (open drivers)20:29
v1ttu_when did it change?20:30
Galvatronhard to say20:31
v1ttu_ok20:31
v1ttu_try this way20:31
GalvatronPerhaps after recent updates20:31
v1ttu_when did u first notice it?20:31
GalvatronToday20:31
GalvatronAfter an update20:31
v1ttu_when you turned on?20:31
v1ttu_oo20:31
v1ttu_when did u last update before today?20:32
GalvatronThe updated packages were kernel and xorg-core20:32
v1ttu_ic20:32
v1ttu_im guessing that it was the xorg update20:32
GalvatronI accidetally enabled unsupported updates20:32
v1ttu_does it work ok with an older kernel?20:33
v1ttu_ooo20:33
GalvatronBut after that I reinstalled X from normal repos20:33
v1ttu_have u tried an older kernel?20:33
GalvatronWhat works with older kernel?20:33
v1ttu_the color depth20:33
GalvatronAhh...20:33
GalvatronNo20:33
v1ttu_if you try an older kernel do u get the ame problem?20:33
v1ttu_kk20:34
GalvatronI never tried downgrading kernel20:34
v1ttu_nono20:34
v1ttu_the older kernels are still there20:34
v1ttu_do u know how to use grub?20:34
GalvatronYup20:35
v1ttu_ok try booting into an older kernel20:35
GalvatronHow?20:35
v1ttu_lol20:35
v1ttu_i thought u aid u knew!20:36
v1ttu_press esc when it says grub loading20:36
v1ttu_then u will see a list20:36
v1ttu_choose the third option down20:36
v1ttu_which ubuntu are u using?20:36
Galvatron9.1020:36
v1ttu_ok20:36
GalvatronGRUB220:36
v1ttu_it will go something like20:37
v1ttu_2.6.31-2020:37
v1ttu_2.6.31-20 (recovery mode)20:37
v1ttu_2.6.31-something20:37
GalvatronAnd memtest86+20:37
v1ttu_choose the something under recovery20:37
v1ttu_ya20:37
GalvatronSo I choose memtest86+ ? o.O20:39
v1ttu_nono20:39
v1ttu_hold on i will pm u20:40
GalvatronOK20:40
monteleo00000021:10
russi just switched from regular ubuntu to the kubuntu netbook remix and i tried to install my wireless drivers with ndiswrapper and they're all showing installed but it's as if the wireless manager wasnt installed with the rest of the system21:14
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GalvatronSomething's wrong21:18
GalvatronI cant send PMs21:18
GalvatronMy mesages are not displayed21:19
larsiviHow can I fix the keymap or whatever used in KDM? For some reason Wubi installed it to use Italian (or similar)21:20
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Ahmed_Hello21:25
Ahmed_ I have installed ubuntu 9.10 And after the upcoming release how will i switch ? by update or do i need to update ?21:25
Ahmed_not to KDE actually but to the upcoming release of Lynxsomething21:26
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Ahmed_hi21:32
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v1ttu_Xahmed o/21:33
Ahmed_I have installed ubuntu 9.10 And after the upcoming release how will i switch ? by update or do i need to update ?21:36
Ahmed_[00:26] <Ahmed_> not to KDE actually but to the upcoming release of Lynxsomething21:36
Ahmed_i just paste it cause i wrote it up :)21:37
theuroshi to all ... i'm new in KDE so i have some questions ... if someone can help me ? ... 1, how i can make some glass effect? 2. Where i can define shortcuts to switch to the right or left desktop ?21:49
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Ahmed_theeuros:21:53
Ahmed_on every window on top left you can check or right click on taskbar21:54
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theurosi don't get it ? ... i want to define my own shortcuts to switch between desktops...21:57
Ahmed_Well at the moment i am on ubuntu havent install the KDE and i am new here21:58
Ahmed_try21:58
Ahmed_CTRL+F121:58
Ahmed_or F221:58
Ahmed_:)21:58
Ahmed_Or ALT the same way21:58
theurosmessing with compizConfig in KDE effects setting in GNOME ?22:01
Ahmed_Yes22:09
Ahmed_what else does it says ?22:09
Ahmed_no not there but desktop setting22:09
Ahmed_look some whereyou will find it22:10
Ahmed_i am ont on Kubuntu at the moment :)22:10
attila-^^buona sera a tutti!22:12
attila-^^Mi piacerebbe sapere se si può raggirare il limite dei bot. Io uso konversation22:14
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GodFatherI am getting 402 forbidden on a file how do I log apache decisions to determine what config rule is denying access?22:24
Typos_King... can't say22:26
Typos_KingI'd just look at the logs or check for any.htaccess files in the folder where the file is at22:26
GodFatherin my html directory I have sitemap.xml forbidden but robots.txt is accessable, I'm really confused to say the least22:27
daskreech!it | attila-^^22:42
ubottuattila-^^: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)22:42
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