[00:01] then ? === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away [00:35] Hello PPL! :) quick question - in menu.lst (grub), what does "#Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue" represents? === mgagne is now known as wftl === wasitchu is now known as RedAce^ [01:44] i use firefox and google chrome, and most pages are taking entirely too long to load recently, what gives?\ [01:47] once again the vaunted ubuntu community fails to live up to its reputation. [01:53] I need some help [02:01] Anyone ever runs across kubuntu desktop repeatedly not instaling properly? === jackson is now known as Guest20630 [02:20] new guy question [02:21] the bar above the file bar and system popups show up as lines and dots [02:21] i tryed looking in the forms and the wiki === Kage_Jittai is now known as Kage [02:33] AAA[A [02:33] no [02:33] no [02:33] yes [02:33] zeltak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:00] is kde 4.4 faser than gnome? === jackson is now known as Guest32316 === james is now known as Guest960 [03:26] i forgot my root password [03:26] hey [03:26] i forgot my root password\ [03:26] please help [03:50] hi [03:51] hi === StephenPower is now known as WindPower [04:47] hi [04:57] Why aren't the 'desktop icons' included in a default installation? By which I mean the Home/Wastebin icons from Jaunty. I think they make life a lot easier. Any chance of them being re-added? [04:57] In 10.04? And if not, 10.10? [05:12] can anyone please give me the rundown on getting pulseaudio working in Kubuntu 9.10? [05:13] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [05:50] Hellos [05:50] where does kubuntu keep its grub menu? there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:51] the only place i see the menu is /boot/grub/grub.conf and it says not to edit, auto gen from scripts [05:58] doh, super [06:09] good morning. [06:10] Cartoon: it's new in /etc/default/grub [06:10] yes i found that out [06:10] Cartoon: after editing /etc/default/grub run sudo update-grub [06:11] and how will update grub work from a non bootable system [06:11] is pulseaudio server default installed or ned i do it manually to get it running? new skype linux version needs full pulseaudio server.. [06:12] Cartoon: what means a "non bootable system"? do you get the grub kernel list? [06:15] noaXess, i changed partitions all around, resized, ect [06:16] Cartoon: so you can get grub menu? then you can edit manually the kernel entry [06:16] can you get into recovery mode? === mike is now known as Guest3664 [06:17] no it didnt work [06:26] is using kde wallet really necessary? === stephen is now known as Guest12588 [07:42] sysi is a good man. [07:46] are there any option which exist to make kubuntu look more like the latest windows(dark n glossy)??? What about a docking station??? [07:48] Why would you want it to look like windows???? And try kde-look.org [07:49] I think he is running gnome and crossposting here [07:49] Morning, bazhang [07:49] Daughain, hi === joseph is now known as Guest51054 === Guest51054 is now known as Retrothe80sninja [07:54] hello === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony [07:59] what is tyhe licence of Landscape ? [08:00] gpl ? [08:16] ubsafder: I don't think Landscape is GPL [08:18] ubsafder: The Landscape client is GPL, actually. The server is not [08:33] ok the server is what then ? [08:34] can i bu a licence for ever or only leased ? [08:35] i installed a new theme but after reboot i dnt see the change. How do i make it happen? === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [08:40] anyone know the long term cost of a ubuntu installation for a business ? [08:40] what budget should we allocate ? [08:41] what's does canonical estimates ? [08:41] or goals [08:41] ubsafder: you probably want a tech support staff just like you would with windows, but no license fee's is good. It would still depend on intended usage just like in windows. (I do not work for canonical) [08:42] we would rather not use tech support from other [08:44] how can i remove package which's broken? [08:44] ubsafder: personally I've been using ubuntu since 8.04 (and linux since 1996), and have never paid a cent, but I did spend a lot of time learning it (Just like I would have had to with windows) [08:44] Franek_Kimono: sudo apt-get purge package-name (I think?) [08:44] ok thanks i know basicaly there will be no price difference in the long run for the businesses [08:44] OxDeadC0de: doesnt work [08:45] Franek_Kimono: sorry sudo apt-get --purge remove package-name [08:46] OxDeadC0de: naah [08:46] OxDeadC0de: http://pastebin.com/bgfcY8cW [08:46] :( [08:47] im getting seriously frustrated [08:48] Franek_Kimono: there is one other way, but it may leave files behind on the hd, and is very manual (removing from apt's database file entirely manually.. I) and dangerous [08:49] i dont want to remove whole dkpg db :< [08:49] i'm getting those binaries from other similiar host [08:49] \maybe that'll work [08:49] 1st time happened [08:49] Hi, for all you newbies out there, to get op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf / [08:49] Franek_Kimono: that's not what I'm suggesting [08:49] Franek_Kimono: that's not what I'm suggesting [08:50] Listen to Timber and have your whole OS wiped clean. he's trying to hurt you. [08:50] Listen to Timber and have your whole OS wiped clean. he's trying to hurt you. [08:50] !ops | Timber [08:50] !ops | Timber [08:50] Timber: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco [08:50] Timber: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, [08:50] Timber, please see my private message [08:50] Timber: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:50] Timber, please see my private message [08:50] Timber: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:51] Franek_Kimono: /var/lib/dpkg/status is the database file, you can go through it, find the entry you want to manually remove, and remove it. Be very careful and make a backup first! [08:51] Franek_Kimono: /var/lib/dpkg/status is the database file, you can go through it, find the entry you want to manually remove, and remove it. Be very careful and make a backup first! [08:51] thanks [08:51] i made it, finally [08:51] too slow, sorry [08:51] OxDeadC0de: i pushed the binaries [08:51] and it worked [08:52] Franek_Kimono: pushed the binaries? === caldera is now known as JulienBu [08:52] OxDeadC0de: yup, pushed them to that crazy machine, placed them on their places and simple purge worked just fine [08:53] Franek_Kimono: oic, awesome =) [08:53] i think i'll get back to lfs [08:53] those crazy package managers aren't always working fine [08:53] hey can anyone help me?? [08:53] For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf / [08:54] can someone help me with 1 command in console? [08:54] plz? [08:54] lukak: shoot it, dont ask to ask [08:54] For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf / [08:54] it says that i have to close mozila firefox in console [08:54] i need to close it in console way [08:55] killall -9 firefox-bin ? [08:56] hmm not working... i remember it was somethink like rfm- or somethink like that [08:56] killall firefox -9 [08:56] 9- xoferif llallik [08:56] ps axuw|grep firefox [08:56] xoferif perg|wuxa sp [08:56] grab the pid and kill it! [08:56] !ti llik dna dip eht barg [08:56] =) [08:56] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:56] ): tnegilletni m'I kniht t'nod esaelp ,tob a ylno ma I :rorrE [08:56] )= [08:56] Guest23380: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:56] .noitautcnup sa retnE esu t'nod ,etsap ot moc.utnubu.etsap//:ptth esu ,doolf t'nod esaelP :08332tseuG [08:56] lamer [08:56] remal [08:57] Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system. [08:57] .metsys ruoy tratser ro ,ssecorp xoferiF gnitsixe eht esolc tsrif tsum uoy ,wodniw wen a nepo oT .gnidnopser ton si tub ,gninnur ydaerla si xoferiF [08:57] it has this [08:57] siht sah ti [08:57] in the console type killall firefox -9 [08:57] 9- xoferif llallik epyt elosnoc eht ni [08:58] and plz stop writing backwards... [08:58] ...sdrawkcab gnitirw pots zlp dna [08:58] it didnt work [08:58] krow tndid ti [08:58] it's a bot [08:58] Guest23380: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:58] tob a s'ti [08:58] .noitautcnup sa retnE esu t'nod ,etsap ot moc.utnubu.etsap//:ptth esu ,doolf t'nod esaelP :08332tseuG [08:58] a very lamer bot [08:58] firefox: no process killed [08:58] dellik ssecorp on :xoferif [08:58] thats what is says [08:58] syas si tahw staht [08:59] lol [08:59] lol [08:59] ps -A | grep firefox like Franek_Kimono said [08:59] dias onomiK_kenarF ekil xoferif perg | A- sp [08:59] ps -A ? [08:59] ? A- sp [08:59] auxw ;) [08:59] ); wxua [08:59] -A is sunos switch [08:59] ;) [08:59] hctiws sonus si A- [08:59] ); [08:59] whoah [08:59] haohw [08:59] works under linux! [08:59] !xunil rednu skrow [08:59] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:59] ): tnegilletni m'I kniht t'nod esaelp ,tob a ylno ma I :rorrE [08:59] <|eagles05138785|> stop spamming [08:59] Guest23380: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:59] gnimmaps pots [08:59] .noitautcnup sa retnE esu t'nod ,etsap ot moc.utnubu.etsap//:ptth esu ,doolf t'nod esaelP :08332tseuG [08:59] <|eagles05138785|> Guest23380: and Franek_Kimono what language are you guys after [08:59] can someone do something with this annoying bot? [08:59] <|eagles05138785|> hey mquin [08:59] niuqm yeh [09:00] boon a ma i [09:00] i am a noob [09:00] its freenode not ircnet [09:00] tencri ton edoneerf sti [09:00] boon a ma i [09:00] boon a ma i [09:00] i am a noob [09:00] i am a noob [09:00] Guest23380: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:00] I think it should autoban anyone that says 'rm -rf /' (DO NOT TYPE THAT IN UNLESS YOU WISH TO DELETE EVERYTHING) [09:00] <|eagles05138785|> ty ikonia [09:00] hello [09:00] yo [09:01] hmm its still not working [09:01] :) [09:01] it says no process to kill [09:01] when i type killall [09:01] lukak: do you still have launched firefox which tells you to kill it manually from commandline? [09:02] Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system. [09:02] i restarted already [09:02] but nothing better.. [09:02] WAZZAP [09:03] I would assume firefox would create a 'lock file' that contains a pid number, then it would would check to see if that pid is running and is named 'firefox'.. [09:03] so what should i do now? [09:04] lukak [09:04] rofl [09:04] !topic > mitjab [09:04] mitjab, please see my private message [09:05] lukak: cd ~/.mozilla/firefox , ls, find the directory ending with .default (mine is z1r3icqd.default), cd do that dir, then rm the lock file [09:07] cd to that dir* === david is now known as Guest89071 [09:12] mitjab is mađar === emil is now known as Guest64234 === Guest64234 is now known as emil__ [09:21] does kubuntu-desktop retain ubuntu settings like compiz and emerald? [09:22] compiz/emerald settings arn't stored by a desktop manager so they will work independant, but you will have to set up kde to use compiz instead of kwin [09:23] when i relog back to my gnome session, will everything still be as before? [09:24] it should [09:25] backups are your friend still! [09:27] when i installed the kubuntu-desktop i set kdm as default when i rebooted it was the kubuntu splash and login but i didnt see where i can click to choose gnome session.. [09:27] there should be an icon somewhere, unless it uninstalled the ubuntu-desktop metapackage when you installed that? [09:30] hrmm how do i find out? im not worried about my home folder, thats on a different HDD all together back ups are good... [09:31] I'd have to log out or start a new session to look for the icon, but I know it's there I've used it before [09:40] Hello [09:41] Could someone enlighten me as to what packegesto install on ny kubuntu system to turn it into the kubuntu netbook edition? [09:41] I want to try it, but don't really want to have to re-install [09:41] TheGrammarFreak: it is called plasma-netbook IIRC, just a second [09:42] TheGrammarFreak: indeed, the package you need is plasma-netbook [09:42] Awesome [09:42] if you don't want it anymore, just remove it and restart KDE [09:42] Just that one? [09:42] Cool [09:42] it will drag in the necessary dependencies [09:42] Cool [09:43] Is there a way to switch between the two workspaces, like in the ubuntu variant? [09:43] the gnome version [09:45] not AFAIK, but you could ask in #kubuntu-netbook [09:45] I never used it since I have no netbook [09:45] Neither do I, I just like the UI [09:45] I was testing it in a VM until now [09:50] TheGrammarFreak: just be patient with your question, I don't know if many are around yet [09:50] Ye [09:50] I may have to go soon, I'm in a lesson :S [09:51] TheGrammarFreak: if you right click on the desktop and go to properties or settings or something like that, it should give you an option to change what type of workspace you're in, from netbook to regular and back [09:51] Cool [09:52] I'll give it a go when it's installed [09:52] TheGrammarFreak: if it doesn't work (and it might not, I have a weird version of KDE running), I know that the option is somewhere like that, in the desktop settings. It might have to be accessed through system settings [09:54] I downloaded a bunch of widgets and they all read "could not create a python ScriptEngine for the plasma pyWeather widget - what wrong? [09:55] Bugger [09:55] School internet blocks the repos [09:56] I'll try when I get home, thanks for your help guys [09:56] hm.. where can i set draft as default printing quality? [09:58] what is the ublog under the desktop? === david is now known as Guest78444 === Guest78444 is now known as thekleine === akhtar is now known as akhtar__ [10:01] hello [10:01] any body guide me [10:02] !ask akhtar__ [10:02] im new myself to be honest [10:02] oh, don't ask to ask just ask the question is what I was hoping for === akhtar__ is now known as kume_ [10:04] some body help me or do freindship? [10:04] hi OXDEAD CODE [10:08] why does this kwallet keep comming up everytime i do something? [10:09] Zus: can you be more specific? [10:09] Zus: the ublog is the microblogging widget; it lets you post to twitter or identi.ca from the desktop instead of going to their websites [10:11] areichman_, i just installed the kubuntu-desktop and im looking at it, when i open amork the kdewallet opened, then when i connectect to my internet and configured the time clock... [10:12] it sounds like it's a first-run thing. All those things are trying to access the wallet and, since you've never given permission before, they ask for it [10:13] for common things that you trust (like the clock settings) consider giving it extended permission so it stops asking [10:13] it's really up to you what you want to let access the wallet with or without asking for permission each time [10:14] installing the enviroment thru gnmoes terminal was in effect as if i used the live cd? [10:14] amarok always asks me to unlock the wallet [10:14] sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop? [10:14] areichman_, aye [10:14] do you tell it to ask each time or not to ask anymore? [10:14] well i apt-get anyways (i hear its basically the same thing) [10:15] i click cancel [10:15] that's your problem, you never give it permission so it keeps asking for it [10:15] why don't you want amarok to have permission to access your wallet? [10:17] didnt know what it was hehe [10:17] ah [10:17] amarok is your music player [10:17] but it accesses lots of online sources [10:17] like last.fm and other things [10:17] just been using linux since karmic, and wanted to give kde a shot before lucid. [10:18] I think (don't quote me on it, though) that amarok is trying to access your wallet to store those passwords [10:18] are you a fan so far? [10:18] <|eagles05138785|> it acutally wants to access the wallet to store the last.fm password [10:18] <|eagles05138785|> thats all [10:19] <|eagles05138785|> OxDeadC0de: see what i just said regarding the wallet and amarok [10:19] wouldnt it use the key ring feom gnome? \ [10:20] Zus: I think that's a future goal, that gnome and kde will both use the same set of passwords [10:20] as far as I know, though, they don't yet [10:20] it's an issue that people are aware of, though [10:20] <|eagles05138785|> Zus: no kde uses the wallet which is the same function as the keyring [10:20] Perun_: wow player? ;) [10:21] areichman_, i like it blue is better than orange and brown ( on the surface) [10:21] I agree :-) [10:22] |eagles05138785|, thanks thats what figured and was wondering why it didnt get stuff from the keyring,.. explains a bunch. [10:23] <|eagles05138785|> Zus: no problem im sure something is in the works though to allow for interoperability [10:23] <|eagles05138785|> i honestly think there should be a choice between the 2 [10:23] <|eagles05138785|> if you access amarok from gnome use the keyring if from kde use the wallet instead [10:23] i used the live disc and seen the file manager do things that i can sure take advantage of...that i havent made aware of in nautilus [10:24] |eagles05138785|, i thought it would and when it asked i wondered who/what was asking for these things.... feel better knowing its just 2 different "safes" in a sense [10:24] <|eagles05138785|> ya [10:25] Zus: dolphin is a pretty wonderful program. And KDE is general is really good at taking advantage of filesystems located all kinds of places [10:25] any body want to be frdind of mine? [10:26] i am from pakistan / karachi [10:26] areichman_, i like that i can split the folder into column, so easy to cut and paste and move files and see the tree of nested folders that way [10:27] I know what you mean :-) [10:27] I use that all the time to split and show my local system on one side any my server on the other. It's the easiest way to transfer files between them [10:28] i love the simplicity of nautilus but i watched a youtube video and seen it do a few things i liked... [10:28] areichman_, (if only i can get the LinuxMint color scheme) [10:29] no idea what color scheme they use, but schemes aren't that difficult to change. It's in system settings > appearance > colors [10:30] comes with quite a few presets, too [10:30] the have the prettiest greens and greys and blacks ( my favorite colors then the blue haha) [10:31] check out some of the presets, I think they ship one like that [10:31] but i was told mint isn't Ubuntu its a whole different development altogether [10:32] that's true, but they both use KDE and I think that KDE is the one that ships the color schemes [10:32] take a look, it can't hurt [10:33] im actually for the system configuration so i can update and install what repositories i need being this is kde not gnome [10:33] Zus: why should you need to change your repositories? [10:33] the program to do that is kpackagekit but I don't think you need to change them [10:33] pls how do i edit my network config to automatically detect network? [10:34] ddavids_: a wireless network? [10:34] Zus: the same repositories will give you updates for both kde and gnome, depending on which ones you have installed [10:36] areichman_, i see. [10:37] Franek_Kimono: nie [10:38] areichman_, whats the email client like evolution? [10:38] kmail? [10:39] Zus: kmail is the KDE email client but Thunderbird (made by Mozilla) is also available on linux [10:39] on this channel every body chat only for ubuntu linux nothing else? [10:39] I use kmail and really like it but it's in the process of being ported to the new KDE email framework right now so it might go through some growing pains [10:40] kume_, correct, kubuntu support [10:40] any body do not have nay thing other than the topic of linux ubuntu software etc [10:40] kume_, #kubuntu-offtopic [10:41] any body has some relation with textile or garment industry [10:41] areichman_, id rather use the one from the system. i never did think of using thuderbird [10:41] thunder^** [10:41] kume_, that is offtopic here; you can chat in #kubuntu-offtopic [10:41] Zus: I really like kmail [10:41] what kind of email account do you use? [10:43] i have a yahoo, and a gmail....i let my hotmail and aol rot away like 9 years ago lol [10:44] Thanks for guiding me for offtopic [10:45] Zus: I know what you mean. If you're going to set it up now, instructions are here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 [10:45] it's a little bit confusing to set up kmail the first time [10:45] you first have to put an email address in the identity you want to use, then set up accounts for sending and recieving (using the information on the page I just linked you to) [10:46] thanks lol now i cant find it haha [10:46] can't find kmail? [10:47] all right, time for me to hit the hay. Good night, everybody [10:49] are lol i did just now,... and evolution as well [10:49] thanks areichman_ [10:49] nighters [10:52] good night? [10:52] its evening here [10:52] i dont have to make a new GPG/PGP key though right? [10:53] just realized if key ring and kdewallet dont share what about the pgp/gpg for encypting email ? [11:00] is facebook part of the identi.ca? [11:02] sup [11:02] hello [11:02] anybody knows an alternative of pysdm on kubuntu? [11:02] i dont sorry... kinda still new [11:03] is for auto-mount drivers at start [11:03] drives* [11:05] that seems useful,.. [11:07] hay guys does anyone know if quassel supports downloading? [11:08] FonFon: Quassel does not support any form of DCC, that includes downloading [11:09] cheers [11:09] I believe that support for DCC is being worked on === jussi01 is now known as o1 === islington_ is now known as islington === o1 is now known as jussi01 [11:20] HI === Klanticus_ is now known as Klanticus === rene is now known as Guest56136 [11:36] anybody knows an alternative of pysdm on kubuntu? [12:28] всем привет [12:28] !ru | OopS [12:28] OopS: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [12:30] Вопрос-почему в фононе падают сторонние плееры, использующие библиотеку gstreamer, и как с этим багом бороться)) [12:30] OopS, english here [12:30] OopS, /join #ubuntu-ru for Russian [12:30] yes? im idiot)) [12:31] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. Im still looking for decent desktop recording software.. Istanbul is just too buggy (randon crashes) [12:31] <[-Haza-]> Can anyone recommend a good desktop recorder? [12:31] !screencast [12:31] Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. [12:31] <[-Haza-]> bazhang: Thanks buddy :) [12:32] <[-Haza-]> bazhang: Anything YOU would recommend in the list above? [12:32] [-Haza-], never used them, sorry not to be of more assistance [12:33] <[-Haza-]> bazhang: No worries :D [12:33] <[-Haza-]> i'll give them a bash [13:09] bonjour tout le monde [13:11] hello all [13:16] <[-Haza-]> How about video editing software? Any recommendations? :D [13:16] <[-Haza-]> I don't need anyhting amazing. Just need to cut / copy / pase. Maybe add some notes / subtitles [13:16] <[-Haza-]> and a sound track / file [13:18] hi! [13:19] i just moved my old 9.10/ext3 harddisk to a external usb harddisk enclosure. unfortunately lucid doesn [13:19] 't seem to gt the charset right.. [13:20] umlauts aren't displayed right. [13:31] Using Kubuntu karmic since months. having the following problem: switched on this morning and all windows do not have any borders. It is impossible to maximize, minimize, resize any window. I haven't modified anything in my desktop settings! This is totally crazy! what can I do? [13:32] that means that kwin has crashed for some reason [13:32] well, what do I have to do? [13:32] start kwin or kwin --replace [13:32] try in a terminal: kwin --replace, see if that works [13:33] i will... it's on a different computer... will let you know in minutes [13:35] Vroomfondle and freinhar1 : I can open konsole but NOT type in it!!! [13:35] it's frustrating....... [13:35] franzmaximilian: press ctrl-alt-f1. You should see a terminal. Then press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to graphics. [13:35] going to test [13:36] if he's on intel graphics he might not come back ;) [13:36] well, that'll learn him to stop using cheap hardware ;) [13:37] * freinhar1 has never ever had a laptop without intel graphics [13:39] Hey Vroomfondle, you have some spare bucks for me? What the fuck! I buy what i can afford. Your dcomment is highly offensive I earn little money honestly. do I have to be a thief? [13:40] !language [13:40] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [13:40] I have been offended. do not bother me [13:40] * Vroomfondle passes franzmaximilian a chill-pill [13:40] franzmaximilian: nobodys offending nobody! [13:40] I was only being silly [13:41] then keep your sillyness for your friends [13:41] No. [13:42] franzmaximilian: this isn't a fun free area! [13:42] Aside from which, being offended does not entitle you to become offensive yourself [13:42] freinhar1, I reboot that computer and now is back to normal behaviour. What kind of problem was that? I didn't do anything after bootin the first time and finding no borders on windows [13:43] franzmaximilian: i'd call that a nasty, hardly reproduceable bug. [13:44] genii, so i must get offended and stay silent? Offending is for free for the first that does it and nobody corrects him? I dint hear any excuses from that guy [13:44] franzmaximilian: besides, the usual it-crow solution did the trick. 'have you tried turning it off and on again...' *scnr* [13:45] franzmaximilian: You don't have to remain silent. You just have to abide by the channel rules... one of which is no profane language. [13:46] profane? did I mention God? I wouldn't ever do it [13:47] eg: No swearing [13:48] still, someone offended me and i get criticized if i get upset because of that. The incident will be closed AFTER i will recieve excuses. === lup0_ is now known as lup0 [13:50] so, are you all accomplices? No excuses ? are you all in favour of joking about users that can't afford buying expensive hardware? [13:51] franzmaximilian: I have no opinion on your hardware or lack of it, only on enforcing the channel rules. [13:51] franzmaximilian: i guess everybodys waiting for you to realize that there was no offense. [13:52] well, I felt offended by a silly, totally irrespectful joke [13:52] cruel, cruel world! [13:53] i mean, this is not a chit chat channel where to play kids [13:53] i may well accept jokes in a different environment [13:53] Vroomfondle: Your "chill-pill" remark after the fact was uncalled for, by the way. [13:54] genii: yeah, accepted, sorry [13:54] * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee, passes out the mugs [13:55] got mildly annoyed for a moment [13:57]