=== remix_auei is now known as remix_tj [09:06] I'd like to form the #ubuntu-ug channel for the Ubuntu Uganda LoCo Team [09:31] Billynkid: Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Thats got the information on how to best set up a team, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ#How do I set up a LoCo team? and the links on that. That should help you get started with setting up a team [09:31] I think I am on the right track, configuring the IRC channel now [09:31] Thanks though [09:32] There should be a few of the core channel ops around in a bit that can give you some advice or suggestions as well [09:32] Great [09:40] I think the #ubuntu-ug channel is now up [09:48] Your flags are set fairly agressively, since I can't even see the operators list.s Not sure if you might like something a little less restrictive. [09:48] persia: I can see the operator list just fine =\ [09:49] Try again I had the channel locked for a sec [09:50] Sorry. Apparently that was a race condition. Looks standard to me. Nice job. [09:50] thx rww [10:16] persia: DJones rww: this is a good page to give out for confguring channels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels [10:17] That is a nice reference [10:18] although I'll admit I didn't use commands of that form when I created my last channel (although the result is similar) [10:19] speaking of useful wiki pages, what ended up happening with that "new operator guide" thing? [10:21] technical guidelines? or the the new applicants one [10:21] bazhang: technical [10:21] technical guidelines is the one I'd like to see [10:21] same [10:21] ah, it got discussed at the last IRCC meeting [10:22] ( http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/13/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:09 ) [10:22] Right. [10:23] nhandler: Let me know when you get started on those technical guidelines for ops, I'd be happy to contribute in any way I can :) [10:23] rww: 1) install irssi 2) install autobleh 3) profit [10:23] ;P [10:24] :/ [10:25] erUSUL: I'm a firm believer in teaching the difficult manual way before the easy way ;P [10:25] so be it [10:26] ;) [10:26] not everyone uses or wants to use irssi [10:26] I certainly dont [10:26] nor do I [10:27] * erUSUL thought the ;P was enough ... [10:27] rww: 1) install irssi 2) install autobleh 3) profit [10:28] rww: Ill keep it in mind - you are more than welcome to create a wiki page with your thoughts/outline on it. I see no reason the ircc only has to do it. we can then merge that wiki page into where ever we like. [10:28] Personally, I think we should write the guide for Empathy, to demonstrate how usable it is for IRC. [10:28] what about being client neutral? [10:28] * jussi01 thinks it should be client neutral [10:29] * rww agrees [10:29] m4v: *g* [10:29] :P [10:29] * jussi01 is very appreciative of any help that is given here, the ircc has a million things right now so extra hands are very welcome. [10:31] m4v, thanks for the ubottu feature! [10:31] err new [10:35] bazhang: :) === jussi01 is now known as o1 [11:12] rww: I've started working on the guide already. My plan was to get a very, very, rough draft prepared and then send an email to the list requesting people look it over and make changes to it. [11:12] nhandler: sounds good :) [11:12] I should have something to send out in the next few days === o1 is now known as jussi01 === remix_tj is now known as remix_auei === remix_auei is now known as remix_tj [15:02] I'm beginning to wonder if there should be a factoid !ola is En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es-offtopic. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es-offtopic" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. (Assuming that there is an es-offtopi channel, rather than sending people to -es when it looks like a lot of them just want general chat in spanish [15:03] just propose it ;) not in my hands [15:03] "ola" is horrible Spanish, don't encourage it :( [15:04] olaaaa [15:04] google is translating it as 'wave' [15:04] yeah [15:04] ola = wave, hola= hello [15:08] m4v: so after testing it in #ubuntu-es the "comment on this ban" feature was ported to ubottu? congrats ;P [15:08] nope === k1l_ is now known as k1l [15:10] erUSUL: that's niko's work. [15:10] ahh ok [15:10] oh ? i'm not aware about that [15:11] 'cause erUSUL mixed two plugins [15:11] :P [15:15] any in case.. I'm not terrible opposed to bankick anyone that says 'ola'. how to write 'hola' is learned in the first day of school :P [15:16] m4v: mobile phone texting is doing a lot of damage in these kids [15:16] m4v: I guess there'd be a precident anyway with !hi instead of !hello :) [15:17] Is there any way to view the unimplemented proposed factoids for ubottu? [15:17] arand: !? [15:18] erUSUL: or are they not saved, just mentioned in #ubuntu-ops? [15:19] arand: No, theres no 'incoming' queue :/ [15:19] arand: the later [15:19] arand: easy for edits to "fall through the cracks" ;) [15:20] Its on my 'todo' list. [15:20] Right below 'rewrite the factoid plugin' [15:22] dang, and there's no easy way to search the archives I assume? [15:22] Well, not as much, but it was kind of deferred until wikipage, and now I'd like to have a look at it and change the link (since i remember the wording as being quite ok)... [15:23] yay!, but untill then *grumble :) [15:28] Pici: did you started any work about it? [15:28] start* [15:28] m4v: I wrote a proof-of-concept with django a long while ago. [15:29] Its alot easier than the bantracker ;) [15:29] is code anywhere for take a look? [15:30] err, "is the code anywhere?" [15:30] um.. [15:30] Its probably on my laptop [15:30] I'm having lag, writing from a remote shell [15:38] Pici: you really should commit that code... [15:38] we from #ubuntu-si wonder if we ever get offical ubuntu logging for channel, or should we stick to our own bots? we asked some 2 months ago [15:39] we got ubot right away [15:39] miha: who did you ask? [15:39] napsy mailed supposedly right email address [15:40] so who should we mail? [15:42] hey napsy [15:42] :) [15:42] napsy remember who you mailed about logging? [15:43] that was on #ubuntu-eu I think [15:43] jussi01: they've asked here and where redirected to #ubuntu-eu iirc [15:44] jussi01: Its not really production ready, its was just me playing around with django. [15:45] pici: call it release candidate, then issue 3 service packs forit :D [15:45] :P [15:45] jussi01: it was jpds [15:45] To whom do I have to speak to get logging services to our ubuntu loco channel? [15:46] napsy: Send an email to rt@ubuntu.com with the request [15:46] Pici: I did like to take a look, I started a factoid plugin from scratch for u-es, mostly cause I wanted a plugin that's localizable and with undo/redo features. Maybe I can help out [15:46] no, wait. [15:46] napsy: don't do that, I'm confused. === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [15:47] Pici relax, take it easy [15:47] Hi. [15:47] napsy: I *think* that it needs to go to admin@ubuntu-eu.org, but let me check my records. [15:48] ok, please [15:48] What Pici says. [15:48] jpds: That sounds correct? [15:48] It is correct. [15:48] napsy: okay, admin@ubuntu-eu.org it is then [15:49] ok thanks I'll leave a message there [15:51] napsy you should CC it to Pici and jpds, perhaps that will scare them into being faster :D [15:51] Nah, they probably don't even know who we are. [15:52] Pici perhaps you have some official mail? :D [15:52] @canonical.com ? :D [15:52] I'm not a canonical employee ;) [15:52] ok, me neither [15:52] :D [15:52] I have bnrubin [at] ubuntu.com though [15:52] Pici sounds official enough! :D [15:52] If you want to you can copy that address. [15:57] Hmm, blackmail isn't nice. [15:58] jpds that's called lobbying and it's perfectly legal! [15:58] :D [15:58] we dont blackmail anyone. we just talk to them about our views on the situation?! :D [15:59] (if you dont pay $$$$ you will...) [15:59] :D [15:59] sorry, offtopic [16:09] Hmm, any opinions on pae is To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the packages « linux-image-generic-pae » and « linux-headers-generic-pae » (9.10 and later). See help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info. ?? Especially if the wiki is okay for now? [16:10] ↑ Should have an https:// prepended === remix_tj is now known as remix_auei [18:10] arand: pae should warn that this slows down performance? [18:12] nhaines: does it? [18:36] yes, quite severely. [18:37] arand: I heard around 30% performance decrease, but I can't assert that. I know it is a pretty big hit. [18:38] nhaines: I was looking at http://people.redhat.com/nmurray/RHEL-2.1-VM-whitepaper.pdf which claims 1% [18:39] arand: that would be a much more acceptable performance decrease, in general. :) [18:39] I should take a look too... [18:40] nhaines: There seems to be be very little writing about it in general... I wonder if phoronix has something... [18:41] nhaines: Ah there we go: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1 [18:43] Seems like the performance drop is completely negliable according to that... [18:44] Okay, well, we can also always just update the wiki page later if we find otherwise. :) [18:47] I think I'm going to remove the performance bit completely for now.. [18:52] Yes, may as well. === radoe_ is now known as radoe === remix_auei is now known as remix_tj === remix_tj is now known as remix_auei === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak