=== gandi_ is now known as gandi [02:39] chrisccoulson: wow, you keep crazy hours like me :) [02:39] micahg - yeah, i normally sleep quite late ;) [02:39] but i'm going to go to bed shortly [02:40] chrisccoulson: BTW, you can do a release commit as well if you like [02:40] yeah, can do. i'll do that now [02:49] micahg, that's done now. i put the tarball here too: http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/ [02:50] chrisccoulson: great, thanks, I'll see if I can get someone to upload once I merge it in [02:50] thanks [02:50] chrisccoulson: I'm working on a merge for conkeror from debian right now [02:50] anyway, i must get some sleep now :) [02:50] chrisccoulson: night, thanks [02:50] good night [02:56] my head hurts... [02:59] micahg: i have no idea what's causing the problem... [03:08] the rules file looks like it points to /deps, but then debuild looks in /deps/checkout [03:08] ddecator: there's a foreach loop there [03:09] micahg: didn't know that was a loop [03:11] still not seeing where it would look in checkout for the linux-x86_64 folder, but my understanding of code is pretty basic [03:14] ddecator: each of these dirs: checkout build linux-$(MACHINE) under here: $(SRC_DIR)/deps have mkdir -p run against them [03:15] micahg: what does the -p argument do? [03:15] ddecator: create parent dirs [03:15] then later, it does into deps and decompresses a tarball [03:16] oops [03:16] I have that backwards [03:16] it creates a tarball [03:19] the 'tar cf - linux-$(MACHINE)' part you mean? [03:20] yeah [03:20] it's failing on the line in between [03:21] ok... [03:22] well i say that it creates Makefile.songbird successfully, or at least there is a file in that folder by that name, but i'm not sure what the rest of the line is doing [03:23] s/say/see [03:23] ddecator: no, make is a program that compiles songbird [03:25] ddecator: or rather executes instructions that then run the compiler to be more precise [03:25] micahg: ah, ok, so it's running that file as part of the building process? [03:25] yep [03:27] micahg: ok, i'm not seeing anything in that make file that would cause that crash [03:29] oh wait... [03:29] ddecator: check the Makefile.songbird and see if you can find the commands there [03:30] the rules file point out a SB_VENDOR_BUILD_ROOT but the make file looks for SB_VENDOR_BUILD_DIR [03:31] the makefile doesn't look for this at all: SB_VENDOR_BUILD_ROOT? [03:31] micahg: nope: cd $(SB_VENDOR_BUILD_DIR) && $(CMAKE) $(CMAKE_ARGS) \ [03:32] well, you can modify the rules file then, but that's not where it's failing now [03:33] well...the make file is looking for SB_RUN_CONFIGURE := 0 and the rules file has SB_VENDOR_GENERATE_SYMBOLS=0 but idk if those are related... [03:34] ddecator: it's failing on a find isn't it? [03:35] micahg: the only "find" in the makefile is this: $(FIND) $(SB_CONFIGURE_PREFIX) -name '*_c.*' -exec rm -v {} \; [03:36] nope [03:40] it fails after the end of the makefile... [03:45] no...i'm extremely confused right now [06:00] well i definitely have a new appreciation for packagers and debuggers... === Loki_ is now known as Loki [11:31] hi. Do you think Seamonkey 2.0 coould be imported in repositories now? There is working 2.0.3 for all supported Ubuntu releases, available on Joe Lesko PPA : https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/ppa-seamonkey2 [11:32] Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/461864 [11:32] Ubuntu bug 461864 in seamonkey "Add Seamonkey 2.0 to Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:32] How to make it happen in repositories? [11:32] What might be the procedure for that? [13:51] chrisccoulson: for thunderbird you have to put the upstream tar.bz2 in the checked out bzr tree ... and run the create-orig-source thing or whatever that rule is called [13:55] chrisccoulson: anything you need while i am still online in the airport lounge? [13:55] hi asac [13:55] hi [13:55] i think i'm ok for the time being. micahg merged the security updates in to bzr last night [13:56] chrisccoulson: did you figure how to create the +nobinonly tarball from the upstream tarball? [13:56] chrisccoulson: hmm. ok i think i should generate the tarball and sponsor it to the security ppa [13:56] probably makes most sense [13:56] if you want to put the orig.tar.gz somewhere thats even better (or in your own ppa) [13:57] e.g. you could put this in your ppa and i can source copy it to the security ppa [13:57] asac - i put the tarball at http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/ [13:57] chrisccoulson: you could really upload it to your ppa ,) [13:57] i would check an source copy it [13:58] yeah, i will do that [13:58] then we do one more security round for ffox xul and then i add you to the security ppa team [13:58] cool [13:58] it will take a little while though [13:58] thanks :) [13:58] chrisccoulson: well. i will be on the plane ;) [13:58] will not be back online until like 2100 UTC [13:58] so take your time ;) [13:58] heh, i will probably have faster upload bandwidth than you while you are flying ;) [13:59] right. [13:59] ok, i'll do that this afternoon anyway [13:59] so when we did that we should someone resurrect the idea to announce such uploads on some blogs/mailing list, so we pick up more security ppa users again ;) [13:59] maybe think about doing that ;) [13:59] yeah, that sounds like a good idea [13:59] the standard notion is: [13:59] security ppa is usually safe because only stable updates go there [14:00] but its really important and users can make a difference. if they discover a bug they help millions of users ;) [14:00] chrisccoulson: i think i should have mails i sent usually [14:01] will get such a mail when home ;)( [14:01] thanks [14:01] which list did you normally send the mails too? [14:01] (i could check the archive) [14:01] i think ubuntu-mozillateam ;) [14:01] ah, i'll have a look there [14:01] thansk [14:01] but i probably stopped a year ago or so (basically when i stopped doing backports) [14:01] s/thansk/thanks [14:01] e.g. when dapper went EOL [14:02] just was too busy ;) and we had quite a few users at that time [14:02] but everytime you dist-upgrade you automatically disable it again [14:02] so we should constantly do that ;) [15:06] hi chrisccoulson [15:06] hi micahg [15:07] chrisccoulson: after I went to sleep I realized that I was only subscribe to 2 of the TB stable branches [15:08] I'm merging the other 2 now [15:08] ah, i did wonder why you only merged 2 ;) [15:08] i'm just uploading the packages to my PPA now, and asac said he would copy them to the security PPA later [15:09] chrisccoulson: k, I guess he can source copy [15:09] chrisccoulson: can you do the same thing for seamonkey 1.1.19? [15:10] yeah, can do [15:10] I'll push a seamonkey stable branch for karmic and use lp:seamonkey/1.1 for lulcid [15:10] *lucid [15:26] chrisccoulson: thunderbird all merged [15:26] excellent, thanks [15:41] chrisccoulson: I have to figure out if the same USN applies to seamonkey or a different one [16:01] hi [16:01] micahg, m-d & tb2, i don't think so. [16:01] fta: k, so, same for seamonkey 1.1, right? [16:02] micahg, yep, but it's easy (if not trivial) to add the feature [16:02] fta: it's the last release for SM1.1 and probably TB2 as well, so I don't think it's worth it [16:03] k [16:05] !info chromium-browser lucid [16:05] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.307.9~r39052-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 10920 kB, installed size 37380 kB [16:06] damn, why isn't 5.0.307.11 there [16:09] pushed [16:10] strange.. i prepared it weeks ago but never pushed it [16:10] or it was rejected for some reason [16:10] or lost [16:13] asac, jdstrand: will _full_ updates of chromium be allowed even after release or what? [16:14] fta: they're both not here === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:28] fta: aint that against FF and release guidelines? [16:29] BUGabundo_remote, ?? [16:29] (2010-03-17 16:13:03) fta: asac, jdstrand: will _full_ updates of chromium be allowed even after release or what? [16:29] BUGabundo_remote, my question is how to maintain ch after lucid is out [16:30] ah [16:30] the only thing i can do is continue to push full updates in sync with the beta channel, then stable channel [16:30] but noway i have the time/resources to identify and backport fixes [16:31] if the later is required, then i have to give up [16:31] +t [16:40] I understand fta [16:40] and get upstream to help on that task? [16:41] they are busy too, they will just point users to their builds [16:43] but we are a distro [16:43] not users [17:09] fta .. just wondering .. when will it support pdf ? [17:11] pdf plugin? [17:11] when i click on a pdf, it works like ff, i.e. i get my preferred pdf viewer [17:12] fta: it would make sense that we should do for chromium what we do for FF and follow the stable release channel - upstream isn't going to support old-stable stuff [17:13] fta: is it can be view like ff .. inside the browser [17:13] jcastro, yep, that's the plan, but no stable for linux yet, hence the beta channel [17:13] right, I mean eventually [17:14] ejat, no idea, there's probably an upstream bug [17:14] but if it goes stable after lucid is out we should probably update what's in the archive and just follow -stable at that point. [17:14] fta : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=11551 :( [17:20] .. /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.14 <-- inside my adobe reader [17:20] for HTML rendering library .. is it correct? [17:21] ejat: why do ppl like _stuff_ inside their browsers?? I know I've always pulled everything I could OUT of them... I wish I could do the same with html5/flash videos [17:22] * ejat just asking .. [17:22] fta: so if lucid *LTS* is going with ch4/5 and with the hugelly fast release cycle ch has [17:22] how do you plan to support ch im lucid? [17:22] stop providing new versions, once ch4/5 hits EOL? [17:23] ejat: I'm also asking. I would like to understand that too [17:25] BUGabundo_remote, nope, just follow beta (then stable), disregarding the version number [17:25] ahh [17:26] and you just don't do that with FF, cause Mozilla doesn't want us to? [17:26] i thought asac wanted to do the same for ff [17:27] google supports the latest LTS so it should work [17:28] the question is what happens when two LTS overlaps [17:28] -s [17:40] eheh [17:40] good luck with that [17:40] :p [18:11] two LTS overlapping is like a solar eclipse [18:12] mahfouz: why? it gives people a year to migrate :) [18:12] rly? [18:13] didn't know that [18:13] I always upgrade to alpha :) [18:13] for desktops at least [18:15] on servers people can skip 1 LTS release and still have a year to upgrade [18:16] * micahg waits for beta to upgrade desktop and release for server [18:17] then it's more like a divorce where you are in separation for 1 year and only then re-marry [18:18] micahg - you're not running lucid yet? [18:18] chrisccoulson: no, I'll upgrade over the weekend, why? [18:19] oh, i was just a bit surprised that you weren't just yet ;) [18:19] chrisccoulson: I wait for beta as this is my main machine [18:19] i suppose it's probably more difficult for me not to run lucid, with the other components i work on [18:19] and yes, I don't have to dogfood the desktop packages :) [18:20] yeah, that's why i need to run lucid really [18:20] it would be very difficult for me if i didn't ;) [18:20] chrisccoulson: I've been running Firefox 3.6 though since beta 1 or 2 :) [18:20] i shall probably need to start running the early beta's too ;) [18:24] I might not have installed if I would have known about the network manager problems [18:24] wpa2 connections such [18:24] suck [18:24] there is a very nasty bug there [20:27] i have a thunderbird problem using imap mail someone help me please === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [22:32] asac: [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:26:25) _Groo_: i found out why some 3g modems arent showing up in network manager [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:27:02) _Groo_: BUGabundo: its not actually a bug but a priority order [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:27:30) _Groo_: BUGabundo: 3g isnt showing up because modemmanager is getting called AFTER networkmanager is already running [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:29:26) _Groo_: BUGabundo: the problem is AFTER the 3g is up and running (like seen in dmesg, usb 2-3: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 gos up and all), nm-applet NEVER shows up the 3g [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:30:02) _Groo_: BUGabundo: the cure is to stop nm, kill -9 modemmanager, get it um first and restart nm [22:32] (2010-03-17 22:30:29) _Groo_: BUGabundo: this will make 3g show up in NM applet === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [23:12] piority order is a bug sometimes [23:13] priority even [23:19] fta: ch snapping [23:19] fta: like this page http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/audio-resources [23:32] fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=38467 [23:34] fta: http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/native-client-and-web-portability.html isn't our build already native on 64bits? [23:50] @whoami [23:50] gnomefreak [23:50] :) === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak