[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sCOTTo: the bot sorts stuff we get asked lots
[00:00] <Jordan_U> yezid: grub-install --version
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sCOTTo: to get the nic configured you can use: sudo lshw -C network    it will show the chip and you can find guides
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> sCOTTo: the ics factoid will elp you share the connection via the second interface
[00:01] <yezid> Jordan_U,  grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[00:02] <Jordan_U> yezid: Then you'll have to go buy some blank CDs ( or upgrade to GRUB2 :)
[00:03] <steigerjb> Jordan_U can you even get grub 2 with 9.04?
[00:03] <yezid> Jordan_U,  how do i upgrade
[00:03] <Jordan_U> steigerjb: You can but its too out of date to be worth trying.
[00:04] <steigerjb> thought so
[00:04] <Jordan_U> yezid: I didn't realize you were running 9.04, you probably don't want to upgrade to grub2 before upgrading to 9.10.
[00:05] <yezid> Jordan_U,  ok then it wonl let me upgrade because i need disk space but i dont have blank cds or flash drive so can i just use gparted and apply after restart or something
[00:05] <porter1> Is it possible to run a windowed session of X inside another X session? I want to be able to isolate a program with separate inputs and display from the primary X display.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> yezid: remove old kernels and run bleachbit with the most apps closed you can manage
[00:06] <arand> yezid: unfortunately not... do you have space on another partition though?
[00:06] <erUSUL> porter1: Xphyr http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620003
[00:06] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  please explain since i am a bit of a noob
[00:06] <Jordan_U> yezid: You will need to upgrade to 9.10, upgrade to grub2, download the parted magic liveCD, and modify /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add an entry to boot from the parted magic iso. Are you sure you can do all that without running out of space first?
[00:06] <yezid> arand, yes i do
[00:06] <heh> does anyone have a home theatre pc?
[00:07] <yezid> Jordan_U,  i have not enough space and no blank cds
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> yezid: run: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[00:07] <porter1> erUSUL, oh yes, I forogt about Xephyr! I'll try it and Xnest maybe. Thanks.
[00:07] <Zenker> join #blender
[00:07] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  ok
[00:07] <arand> yezid: I used that space once when upgrading, but it's rather tricky..
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> yezid: the first line is the current kernel, the next bits are the installed kernels
[00:07] <steigerjb> join #ubuntu-us-md
[00:08] <hanasaki> for vnc viewer how do you connect to a server on a specific port as opposed to :display
[00:08] <yezid> 2.6.28-11.42 first
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> yezid: you can remove the unused kernels to gain space, bleachbit is an app you can use to clean space
[00:08] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  ok so il download it now
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> yezid: if you remove the unused kernels you will gain about 120Mb per kernel
[00:08] <Jordan_U> yezid: What is currently using the space that you would resize the Ubuntu partition into?
[00:09] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  nice it seems i have like 3
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> yezid: then yuo can remove 2 if you dont need em, do NOT remove the current kernel
[00:09] <yezid> Jordan_U,  i selected about only 10gb at the first install...
[00:09] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  ok thanks im downloading right now
[00:10] <Jordan_U> yezid: And the rest is free space?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> yezid: you can also run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove   after to clean up the system
[00:10] <yezid> Jordan_U,  no i dont know this is my couzings computer but i think its just installed aplications
[00:10] <xXPoorMexicanXx> Hello Fellow Ubuntu Community!
[00:10] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I need your help.
[00:10] <yezid> ActionParsnip, cool il try that too
[00:10] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I have a windows 7 iso
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> yezid: the OS also comes witha tonne of apps you wont use and can be removed
[00:11] <Jordan_U> yezid: To resize the Ubuntu partition you need free space to resize it into.
[00:11] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  thankyou this is very helpfull
[00:11] <xXPoorMexicanXx> and i need help on putting it onto a flash drive so that way i can boot and install it
[00:11] <xXPoorMexicanXx> it is an iso file
[00:11] <yezid> Jordan_U, the windows aprtition has like 60 gb
[00:11] <Jordan_U> xXPoorMexicanXx: Try ##windows
[00:11] <wiiguy> xXPoorMexicanXx GO TO ##windows
[00:11] <xXPoorMexicanXx> but i have ubunut
[00:12] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  ok done downloading bleach bit please help on what to do on it.. thanks
[00:12] <arand> yezid: If a simple cleanup will give you enough that is probably the easiest way, otherwise other things might be done with the space on the win partition...
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yezid: its in the menu, why dont you use the web instead of asking. I have given you a direction. Go explore it
[00:13] <erUSUL> xXPoorMexicanXx: unetbootin ?
[00:14] <rall> Hi people!  I installed and uninstalled some networking program some time ago.   Now my gnome network manager is not managing eth0.. how do I change that? Instead of showing "Auto eth0" it shows: "Wired Network,   device is not managed"
[00:14] <erUSUL> xXPoorMexicanXx: it only supports linux iso :(
[00:14] <xXPoorMexicanXx> yeah
[00:14] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  ok thanks.. and i apreciate the help because sometimes the web is full of cr*p and it takes me hours but the irc is soo helpfull
[00:14] <xXPoorMexicanXx> i tried unet
[00:15] <xXPoorMexicanXx> so is there an alternative to the UNetbootin?
[00:15] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I tried imagewriter but that dont work either
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> yezid: its in your menu, close as many apps as you can to make it more effective, dont use the things marked as slow and watch the firefox options if you use firefox
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !windows | xXPoorMexicanXx
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> yezid: run it as both user and then root
[00:16] <xXPoorMexicanXx> no its not microsoft software
[00:16] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I have linux i just need to know how to put an iso on a usb
[00:16] <yezid> ActionParsnip, ok thanks.. what about the kernels
[00:16] <Jordan_U> xXPoorMexicanXx: Windows 7 is microsoft software, ##windows will know how to properly make a bootable usb drive from the windows 7 install iso if it is possible.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> yezid: use software center
[00:18] <xXPoorMexicanXx> ok thanks everyone
[00:18] <CharbeL> i used this command (sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre) in terminal after downloading i got Package configuration / Configuring sun-java6-jre with a message <<<SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE JAVA PLATFORM STANDARD EDITION DEVELOPER KIT ("JDK" - THE "SOFTWARE") TO YOU ONLY UPON  THE CONDITION THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT (THE "AGREEMENT").  P
[00:18] <CharbeL> LEASE READ THE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY.  BY INSTALLING, USING, OR DISTRIBUTING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.>>>, what should i do to continue ?
[00:18] <rall> think dd command can put iso's on usb's ?
[00:19] <erUSUL> rall: that does not make the thing bootable
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> CharbeL: press tab untill yes is highlighted and press enter
[00:19] <yezid> ActionParsnip,  i really dont want to bother you anymore but i dont know how to run it as root.. or how to use the software center to remove kernels.. please remeber i am in 9.04
[00:19] <erUSUL> CharbeL: accept the license. press tab until you are on the yes or accept button. press enter
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> yezid: gksudo software-center
[00:20] <LOGAN> where could I find lucid discussion?
[00:20] <CharbeL> ok thx guys
[00:20] <erUSUL> !lucid
[00:20] <LOGAN> ok thank you
[00:21] <rall> erUSUL,  not that i know much about it but toggle bootflag from fdisk would work maybe?
[00:21] <Sj4m35-15> has anyone installed ubuntu 9.10 on a toughbook?
[00:21] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Doesn't software-center use polkit?
[00:21] <yezid> ActionParsnip, nothing comes up
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: not sure, i dont use it but its a gui app needing elevated access so gksudo should be fine afaics
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> yezid: use the item in the menus
[00:22] <alzamabar> Hi, a quick question about security. I set root.myusername as owner/group of a directory with some content. I then setup the following permissions: ug+rwx,o-rw. I am running a ls command on the folder which now has drwxrwx--x. Why does it tell me permission denied?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> alzamabar: are you currently the right user? whoami will tell you
[00:23] <kandinski> what is the cli tool to modify the laptop's lcd brightness?
[00:24] <kandinski> I am using a Toshiba, if it matters
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858368
[00:24] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:25] <yezid> ActionParsnip, i erased some things il try to update again thanks
[00:25] <offy> Hello, on ubuntu server, all other users can't see the user@host:location$. They just see $
[00:26] <alzamabar> ActionParsnip, whoami tells me I am username
[00:26] <Knio> how can I connect to a wireless AP from the command line?
[00:26] <offy> iwconfig eth0 essid="the network"
[00:26] <offy> well first ifconfig
[00:27] <offy> find the card you are using
[00:27] <erUSUL> Knio: relatively easy if it uses no encryption
[00:27] <offy> ifconfig [card] up
[00:27] <Knio> it says its up, but when I do that, it still says 'not associated'
[00:27] <eedge> Hi, is there any alternative to configuring a whole dns service (like bind or something) if I just want to alias a couple of internal hostnames?...
[00:27] <alzamabar> ActionParsnip: Try the following commands: mkdir test; sudo chown -R root.<youruser> test; cd test; ls -al
[00:28] <offy> Hello, on ubuntu server, all other users can't see the user@host:location$. They just see $
[00:28] <erUSUL> alzamabar: autput of « ls -ld dirname ; id  » ?
[00:28] <Knio> there is no encryption
[00:28] <rall> iwlist interfacename scan | less      is a nice command for scanning for accesspoints nearby on CLI
[00:28] <erUSUL> alzamabar: is chown root:<youruser> afaik
[00:28] <erUSUL> alzamabar: i just tested here and it worked
[00:29] <eedge> actually I mean alias some external dns endpoints that might theortically change...
[00:29] <Knio> 'interface doesn't support scanning'
[00:29] <offy> did you set it up?
[00:29] <alzamabar> erUSUL: First output --> drwxrwx--x 2 root mtedone 4096 2010-03-17 00:25 test/
[00:29] <Knio> me?
[00:29] <alzamabar> erUSUL: Second output  --> uid=1000(mtedone) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),110(sambashare),111(admin),1010(sysadmin)
[00:29] <offy> @Knio whats the ifconfig output
[00:30] <Knio> it works in gnome, with the widget thingy... i'm trying to run without X though
[00:30] <xXPoorMexicanXx> Ok
[00:30] <offy> Knio: I know, its easy
[00:30] <offy> Knio: Whats ifconfig say?
[00:30] <Knio> eth2 802.11 ap: not assiciated, some numbers
[00:30] <xXPoorMexicanXx> Does anybody know how to put any kind of iso file on a flash drive to install on other computers?
[00:30] <offy> knio: ifconfig eth2 up
[00:30] <xXPoorMexicanXx> Using Ubuntu?
[00:31] <erUSUL> alzamabar: run this ---> cd /tmp/ && mkdir test && sudo chown root:$USER test && sudo chmod g+w test && cd test && touch testfile && ls -l *
[00:31] <Knio> offy: no change
[00:31] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I'm not asking about windows 7 anymore
[00:31] <offy> xxpoor: Ubuntu has a program to do it
[00:31] <xXPoorMexicanXx> I'm talking about any os iso
[00:31] <erUSUL> alzamabar: you are only in the group root?
[00:31] <xXPoorMexicanXx> what is it called
[00:31] <Silencer_> hello room.. has anyone got problems with kswapd0? it seems to freeze up my computer
[00:31] <Jordan_U> xXPoorMexicanXx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[00:31] <offy> xxpoor: system/ admin/ usb startup maker
[00:31] <xXPoorMexicanXx> no
[00:31] <Jordan_U> xXPoorMexicanXx: By the way, that guide won't work with windows.
[00:32] <injekt> heh: You around?
[00:32] <erUSUL> alzamabar: your gid is root that can explain it ....
[00:32] <xXPoorMexicanXx> i dont have windows
[00:32] <Rodensky> Hello PPL! :) quick question - in menu.lst (grub), what does "#Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue" represents?
[00:32] <xXPoorMexicanXx> i just have a windows iso
[00:32] <xXPoorMexicanXx> that i need to put on my flash drive to install on another computer
[00:32] <PlasmaSheep> I need to mount my ipod. It's not automounting. I do not know the device name. How do I do this?
[00:32] <erUSUL> alzamabar: my gid and the one of all ubuntu users is one that matchs username
[00:32] <rall> fdisk -l?
[00:33] <erUSUL> alzamabar: uid=1000(username) gid=1000(username)
[00:33] <alzamabar> erUSUL: I got: touch: cannot touch `testfile': Permission denied. I'll try to change the group
[00:33] <PlasmaSheep> rall: who?
[00:33] <MuelSam> Could someone tell me how I could work with free software?
[00:33] <anderson> boa noite
[00:34] <anderson> good nigth
[00:34] <PlasmaSheep> rall: I don't see my ipod filesystem there.
[00:34] <erUSUL> alzamabar: sudo usermod -g 1000 $USER
[00:34] <anderson> good eveneng
[00:34] <operaatoors> Hiya! I have problem that Netbeans is not running anymore at all, and i think, it happend after, when I installed java on my machine. Is there any, who could help me with that?
[00:34] <PlasmaSheep> rall: I only see my windows partition, swap, dell utility partition, and also swap.
[00:34] <anderson> hello
[00:34] <erUSUL> alzamabar: or something like that check the actual guid
[00:34] <PlasmaSheep> I need to mount my ipod. It's not automounting. I do not know the device name. How do I do this?
[00:35] <rall> sorry,  fdisk -l  run from root will probably show ipod?  or the System > Administration > Disk Utility tool :)
[00:35] <Bookman> I have a Serial to USB converter, how do I address that?  Which port is it?  I'm trying to install a printer with it.
[00:35] <PlasmaSheep> rall: that's what I did
[00:35] <erUSUL> Bookman: a serial printer? o.0! anyway should be /dev/ttyUSB0 or something similar
[00:36] <PlasmaSheep> rall: used gui, found it: /dev/sdb
[00:36] <PlasmaSheep> rall: thanks
[00:36] <erUSUL> Bookman: to make sure just do « tailf /var/log/messages » in a terminal after that plug the converter
[00:36] <rall> PlasmaSheep great :)
[00:36] <erUSUL> Bookman: the dev name should appear in the new output
[00:36] <velizar> hi all
[00:36] <acicula> PlasmaSheep: it should also be available under Places
[00:36] <hardbop200> hi all - I'm trying to find ttf-bitstream-vera for karmic, but it's not there, and my google-fu is failing me. can someone point me to some hints?
[00:36] <velizar> I'm boy with Xubuntu Compiz problems
[00:37] <PlasmaSheep> acicula: Not unless it's not automounting, which is what I said
[00:37] <acicula> PlasmaSheep: missed that bit
[00:37] <velizar> and I've 1 question
[00:37] <Knio> iwlist can see my AP fine
[00:37] <erUSUL> hardbop200: they've been replaced by DejaVu fonts
[00:37] <velizar> How to install Xfce in Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic?
[00:37] <offy> Hello, on ubuntu server, all other users can't see the user@host:location$. They just see $
[00:37] <velizar> I'm with it right now
[00:37] <hardbop200> erUSUL: cool! thank you.
[00:37] <acicula> velizar: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or just xfce4 ?
[00:37] <anderson> ola
[00:37] <erUSUL> velizar: install xubuntu-desktop metapackage ?
[00:37] <Scunizi> Is updating grub 2.0 in 9.10 as easy as sudo update grub?
[00:37] <eremite> velizar, open terminal and type sudoe apt-get install xfce4
[00:38] <acicula> Scunizi: you mean to grub2.0?
[00:38] <velizar> ok, thx a lot
[00:38] <PlasmaSheep> rall: new problem: http://pastebin.com/fwkjcWAz
[00:38] <eremite> velizar, open terminal and type sudo apt-get install xfce4  <--, no e in sudo
[00:38] <erUSUL> Scunizi: sudo update-grub ?
[00:38] <Scunizi> acicula: yes
[00:38] <Scunizi> erUSUL: ah.. with a dash?
[00:38] <alzamabar> erUSUL: I used the user admin and changed my group to my username, but when I type id I can still see gid=0(root)
[00:38] <acicula> !grub2 | Scunizi
[00:38] <soreau> velizar: What problems are you having with compiz?
[00:38] <erUSUL> Scunizi: top regenerate the config file after some change? yes
[00:38] <velizar> wow, it's installing in terminal now
[00:39] <velizar> amm I wanna extra compiz effects with moving windows in Ubuntu GNOME
[00:39] <anderson> buenas notches
[00:39] <eremite> velizar, yes, you should have xfce4 in about 30 seconds.  Logout and log back in with it, come baCK AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
[00:39] <PlasmaSheep> rall: what does that mean?
[00:39] <acicula> Scunizi: the wiki page has a howto with commands on how to get to grub2
[00:39] <velizar> I want this in Xfce environment
[00:39] <eremite> Sorry, caps lock.
[00:39] <Bookman> erUSUL, Indeed it did, thanks....now I just have to figure out how to install a printer with that information
[00:39] <rall> hmm not sure.. maybe you need to install some library to read apple filesystems?
[00:39] <soreau> velizar: What is the problem though? Compiz is already installed, you just have to enable it
[00:39] <erUSUL> Bookman: good luck
[00:39] <ddrj> anyone run xbmc here? it's so weird.. i have a dual core cpu (amd athlon ii x2 250) but xbmc runs so slow on my pc
[00:39] <PlasmaSheep> rall: It's mounted before.
[00:39] <erUSUL> !ccsm | velizar
[00:39] <PlasmaSheep> rall: If I do it via the gui: http://pastebin.com/JxEvPhTe
[00:39] <velizar> I know, but in Xfce there is no option "Desktop Effects" :(
[00:39] <anderson> holla
[00:40] <PlasmaSheep> rall: also, please highlight me when you reply
[00:40] <soreau> velizar: Simply run 'compiz' to start it
[00:41] <velizar> ok, but where is Extra effects?
[00:41] <darolu> "compiz --replace" works even better.
[00:41] <baconbits> velizar: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:41] <Scunizi> erUSUL: you've been around the block a bit.. so I'll throw the other half of the equation to you.. I've got a 8.10 install on the same drive.. It appears 9.10's grub listing for that install chains to the older grub 1.0 that is on a different drive.. I've just updated that install which included a new kernel.  However I wonder if sudo update-grub in 9.10 will pickup the new kernel listing in the older grub? Any ideas?
[00:41] <PlasmaSheep> rall: I needed to do mount /dev/sdb2
[00:41] <ddrj> anyone notice framerate drops in xbmc ?
[00:41] <erUSUL> velizar: but you can run ccsm from a terminal ....
[00:41] <rall> PlasmaSheep,  :) not very used to irc yet, but getting there.    but looks line some filesystem libraries are needed..  But not sure
[00:41] <soreau> darolu: No, it doesn't actually
[00:41] <PlasmaSheep> rall: I needed to do mount /dev/sdb2. this fixed the issue
[00:42] <velizar> thx
[00:42] <soreau> darolu: On ubuntu, compiz is a script that calls the real compiz binary with --replace and other options.
[00:42] <baconbits> velizar, you'll have more compiz settings than you know what to do with, but at least it'll work
[00:42] <topolino> hello , I need help with my ubuntu ...I'm a windows user , and this is my first time using linux , ...my hard drive went berserk and for some reason it cant read any ( I really meen any Widows file)
[00:42] <topolino> so I installed ubuntu ... , I am having a problem to instal flash player for firefox and more important AMSN..or what ever msn I can use...can some one please help me , I would be thankfull...
[00:42] <soreau> darolu: If you run compiz --replace on 9.10, look at the output of 'ps ax|grep compiz' and you will see it has --replace twice
[00:42] <blendmaster1024> hello all, i'm trying to make it so that i can send mail from my ubuntu box that's on a home dsl line with two levels of NAT. i don't particularly care what program i use to do it, as long as i can send it from the local host and not with a service like gmail (i'm sending it TO gmail). how can i set up ubuntu to do this?
[00:42] <velizar> ok, thx a lot for command
[00:43] <velizar> Xfce is installed wow
[00:43] <velizar> I'll try now
[00:43] <Arkanis> No logins work besides recovery root shell. It says "authentication failure"
[00:43] <eremite> good luck velizar
[00:43] <faron> okay...i'm having some major problems trying to install this package I downloaded.the package is called flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz   when I try this  tar xfvz flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz           I get this    tar: flashplayer10_1_p3_linux_022310.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[00:43] <faron> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:43] <faron> tar: Child returned status 2
[00:43] <faron> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[00:43] <faron>  
[00:43] <FloodBot4> faron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <velizar> thx
[00:43] <erUSUL> Scunizi: i'm lost. karmic grub2 has an entry that chainloads to the 8.10 grub1 that is on the other drive? i undertood that correctly?
[00:43] <velizar> bye
[00:43] <velizar> brb
[00:43] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: 2 levels of NAT is a nightmare and really shouldn't exist on one LAN
[00:43] <faron> sorry about that
[00:43] <topolino> I installed ubuntu ... , I am having a problem to instal flash player for firefox and more important AMSN..or what ever msn I can use...can some one please help me , I would be thankfull...
[00:43] <Scunizi> erUSUL: yep..
[00:43] <darolu> soreau: I only see it once :s
[00:43] <NinoScript> Hey, I'm looking for a minimalist icon theme :D maybe something like ecqlipse 2: http://chrfb.deviantart.com/art/quot-ecqlipse-2-quot-PNG-59941546
[00:43] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, i have to have it unfortunately
[00:43] <PlasmaSheep> rall: Now my problem is that a regular user can't write to the ipod.
[00:43] <Scunizi> erUSUL: however you never really see the grub 1.0 listing on the other drive when it loads.
[00:44] <Arkanis> No logins work besides recovery root shell. It says "authentication failure"
[00:44] <PlasmaSheep> rall: How can I mount it so that all users have read/write access?
[00:44] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: can you elaborate?
[00:44] <MFen> is there any way other than add-apt-repository to add an apt repository? that dumb thing only works on launchpad ppa's
[00:44] <soreau> darolu: Well try starting with simply 'compiz'. It will still have --replace
[00:44] <eremite> topolino, open Synaptic manager and search for adobe flash.  Install that package then restart your browser.
[00:44] <Arkanis> Help?
[00:44] <rall> PlasmaSheep  ok so you got it mounted?
[00:44] <MFen> i mean, from the command line
[00:44] <PlasmaSheep> rall: yes
[00:44] <faron> anybody here who can help me install a ta.gz file ?
[00:44] <erUSUL> Scunizi: it loads the default entry or what?
[00:44] <topolino> eremite I've tryed that..
[00:44] <MFen> i need an easy one-liner somebody can paste in for add-apt-repository to a non-launchpad ppa
[00:44] <topolino> but It says .. it cant find the file...
[00:44] <gerrin> looking for good video editing software, suggestions?
[00:44] <erUSUL> Scunizi: you never get to the 8.10 grub1 menu... is that what you say?
[00:44] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, my stupid dsl router has NAT that can't be shut off, and to make my iptables firewall work the way i want i can't have the router as the only source of nat
[00:45] <eremite> topolino, which browser?  Does flash work in any of them?  Have you been to the Adobe website and downloaded the package from there?
[00:45] <baconbits> topolino, an instant messenger application (pidgin) should already be installed. It will handle MSN. You can try other programs from the software center if you find it insufficient.
[00:45] <darolu> soreau: so it is really the same I guess, good to know
[00:45] <Scunizi> erUSUL: it load the older kernel for the 8.10 install instead of the newer one.  Correct I never get the 8.10 grub1 menu..
[00:45] <soreau> darolu: Now in lucid, this will change again but the startup script will be merged into the binary so I assume it will have to be 'compiz --replace' like a 'normal' wm
[00:45] <topolino> I use pidgin on WINDOWS...but I dont have it here...
[00:45] <topolino> i have GAIM :s..
[00:45] <topolino> and it says
[00:45] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: is it a twowire dsl modem or motorola?
[00:45] <Granite> No logins work besides recovery root shell. It says "authentication failure"
[00:45] <Granite> Help?
[00:45] <topolino> that protocol isnt the same with windows live
[00:45] <kaolbrec> MFen, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adding+ppa+ubuntu
[00:45] <eremite> topolino, in synaptic search for "adobe-flashplugin"
[00:46] <baconbits> topolino,  what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:46] <topolino> 5.04
[00:46] <velizar> hi again from Xfce
[00:46] <topolino> this was the only cd i got
[00:46] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, it's actiontec
[00:46] <PlasmaSheep> rall: so how can I make regular user have read and write privileges?
[00:46] <MFen> kaolbrec: thanks for the snark, but you need to reread my question. i know how to add an apt repo.  i want a one-liner i can give someone else to do it without messing around in config files
[00:46] <Copperred> Hello.......is it easy to upgrade from Ubuntu to Kubuntu?   And do i lose all my program settings and desktop files in the process?
[00:46] <Kyle_XY> hi please i need help!!
[00:46] <soreau> topolino: Wow, that is 5 years old
[00:46] <erUSUL> Scunizi: so the entry is not a chainload of the older grub it actually picked the kernel installed in 8.10 and directly loads that? then i guess that a sudo update-grub in karmic will pick the newer 8.10 kernel... is easy to test just run the command
[00:46] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: any way to get into the back end of that thing and turn off NAT?
[00:46] <topolino> I Know...
[00:47] <topolino> but thats all I've got...
[00:47] <velizar> Hi Copperred
[00:47] <soreau> topolino: Why are you using hoary?
[00:47] <mkquist_> Copperred: its only another desktop environment
[00:47] <Kyle_XY> someone can help me in programming in linux shell??
[00:47] <civpro> question, any difference in running sudo or loggin in as root for installs?
[00:47] <mkquist_> Copperred: same kernel underneath
[00:47] <velizar> just install the KDE desktop environment
[00:47] <civpro> any permission differences?
[00:47] <Myrtti> civpro: sudo is safer
[00:47] <kaolbrec> MFen, to be fair, I just think lmgtfy is cool. I fail to see how the example given on the second link isn't "simple"
[00:47] <civpro> safer how?
[00:47] <topolino> hoary?
[00:47] <DIL> !permissions | PlasmaSheep
[00:47] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, plenty of ways into the back of that thing. no way to turn off NAT.
[00:47] <Kyle_XY> please im a beginer
[00:47] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: I'll have a look, thanks
[00:47] <Kyle_XY> and i need help
[00:47] <Copperred> ive never changed my desktop enviro before.......so not sure what this means practically.  Will I have to reset all the settings Firefox, thunderbird, etc.........ur saying NO i think.
[00:47] <Scunizi> erUSUL: ok.. after running it how do I look at what the update will be short of rebooting?  look at the dynamic file /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[00:47] <rall> PlasmaSheep  you could make a group with mounting permissions and let the users become member of that group I think:)  Good luck going to bed
[00:47] <Copperred> All my same files will still be there on the desktop, etc.
[00:48] <PlasmaSheep> bye rall
[00:48] <Kyle_XY> i need help please
[00:48] <kaolbrec> Kyle_XY, what is it you mean by programming?
[00:48] <Kyle_XY> can someone help?
[00:48] <mkquist_> Copperred: its the graphical interface
[00:48] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: are you sending standard email or are you running an email server?
[00:48] <gerrin> anybody know any good video editing software for ubuntu
[00:48] <Kyle_XY> ok
[00:48] <Kyle_XY> I have to do this
[00:48] <civpro> kyle for crying out loud, patience
[00:48] <Copperred> if i dont like Kubuntu.....is it complicated to go back to Ubuntu?
[00:48] <civpro> wow
[00:48] <erUSUL> Scunizi: that commands shows what kernels has found... then you can check the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file too
[00:48] <MFen> kaolbrec: the second link is a video. i need a one-line command, i'm just looking for something like add-apt-repository, but not crippled
[00:48] <civpro> dont ask can u help me 40 times in a row
[00:48] <mkquist_> Copperred: you can have both - its not an 'upgrade' as much as a different desktop
[00:48] <Kyle_XY> wait
[00:48] <Myrtti> civpro: permission escalation is limited to certain users instead of passing root account information to users that don't need it
[00:48] <Copperred> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:48] <Copperred> ok
[00:48] <Scunizi> erUSUL: thanks... I"ll give it a shot
[00:48] <Copperred> so how do i do it :)
[00:48] <erUSUL> good luck
[00:49] <mkquist_> Copperred: and you can use either one
[00:49] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, i don't know. i don't know how email works. i just know i want to send an email from my local box to my gmail account that says it's from "blendmaster@blendmaster-desktop" or something like that
[00:49] <Copperred> just follow the instructions on the Kubuntu page i suppose.
[00:49]  * erUSUL nights all
[00:49] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: Unless I'm mistaken, that doesn't explain how to manipulate permissions of a device.
[00:49] <Myrtti> civpro: sudo also leaves a bit more log behind
[00:49] <kaolbrec> MFen, this was the second link when I did it.. but it's still not what you want I see http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-simplified-way-to-add-ppa-repositories-in-karmic.html
[00:49] <baconbits> topolino, do you have a CD burner?
[00:49] <Copperred> interesting......i did not realize i can have more than one Desktop Enviro.
[00:49] <NinoScript> Copperred: you can change the desktop environment you use on the login screen
[00:49] <civpro> myrtti, i understand that, but i was asking specifically for installing programs only, like a new lamp install for example
[00:49] <Copperred> hmmmm
[00:49] <mkquist_> Copperred: its something like sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[00:49] <DIL> !chown
[00:49] <civpro> say you install in 1 ssh terminal and another login for configuration?
[00:49] <civpro> its all ssh based btw, remotely
[00:49] <mkquist_> Copperred: google it.. i dont think thats for sure correct
[00:50] <Copperred> is Mac4Lin also a desktop enviroment?
[00:50] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: what?
[00:50] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: I know what the command line is.
[00:50] <mkquist_> Copperred: mac4lin is just a way to decorate gnome
[00:50] <DIL> PlasmaSheep,  standby
[00:50] <Copperred> hmmm
[00:50] <sekyourbox> Hey what happened to xorg.conf in ubuntu 9?
[00:50] <PlasmaSheep> standing by.
[00:50] <mkquist_> Copperred: gnome - which is a desktop environment
[00:50] <Copperred> okey dokey im going ot go study the kubuntu site and then install it.
[00:50] <acicula> sekyourbox: not (much) used anymore
[00:50] <Copperred> interesting...so mac4lin is make up.
[00:51] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: then if you want @blondmaster-desktop and you don't want to use gmail's servers then you might be inhibited the spam bot protection.
[00:51] <MFen> so no other 1-line add-apt-repository replacement?
[00:51] <mkquist_> Copperred: basically, yes
[00:51] <Copperred> ok so kubuntu here i come...hope this does not screw up my programs
[00:51] <civpro> just wondered as far as if there is any difference, as long as your smart and only do installs as root
[00:51] <mkquist_> Copperred: prob add a few...
[00:51] <sekyourbox> acicula, I need to manually configure my screen. I cannot detect my monitor since I plugged in a kvm... Where do i configure it?
[00:51] <Copperred> lol
[00:51] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, ah crap. is that why syslog says "email status bounced" every time i try to send anything?
[00:51] <mkquist_> Copperred: it will
[00:52] <Copperred> IT WILL SCREW up my programs????
[00:52] <Copperred> it will reset my programs?
[00:52] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: yep.. are you using Evolution or thunderbird or what?
[00:52] <acicula> sekyourbox: xorg.conf or autodetect
[00:52] <Copperred> Will I lose my email files?
[00:52] <mkquist> no
[00:52] <mkquist> Copperred: no and no
[00:52] <acicula> !xorg | sekyourbox , have a look here i suppose
[00:52] <Copperred> ok
[00:52] <mkquist> Copperred: underneath, will still be the same
[00:52] <Copperred> mis read u there.
[00:52] <Copperred> i c
[00:52] <Copperred> great
[00:52] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, just mail actually, on the command line
[00:52] <FloodBot4> Copperred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <Copperred> ok
[00:52] <Copperred> will go do this now
[00:52] <PlasmaSheep> haha
[00:52] <PlasmaSheep> Copperred got muted.
[00:53] <Kyle_XY> HEY GUYS, SOMEONE PLEASE KNOW HOW TO USE THE SHELL WITH ARITHMETIQUES??
[00:53] <PlasmaSheep> Kyle_XY: ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T NEED TO FIND THE CAPS LOCK KEY FIRST?
[00:53] <madjoe> is there any way to force Nautilus to show two different locations in the same window?
[00:53] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: ah.. well.. it might be because you don't have an actual email server setup for routing mail outside your LAN.. but then if you did you'd still have an issue with the protections on other email systems.. because blendmaster-desktop is not a verifiable domain name.
[00:54] <eremite> madjoe, use tabs?
[00:54] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, can i set it up with my ip?
[00:54] <DIL> PlasmaSheep,  see this or similar postings http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186878
[00:54] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: okay, thanks
[00:54] <Kyle_XY> IF I WANT TO TEST AN ARGUMENT IF IT IS A NUMBER WITH IF THEN, HOW DO I DO THAT USING #!/bin/sh???
[00:54] <sekyourbox> Acicula, xorg.conf is not located in \etc\X11\?
[00:54] <Jon-> Is there a way to create a keyboard shortcut in nautilus to open the properties for a given object/group of objects? I keep hitting alt + enter (very used to it from windows) and it's getting annoying when it just opens the directory/file
[00:54] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: if you want to do mail off the command line use something like mutt which you can configure to use the gmail servers for outbound (and inbound) email
[00:54] <boss_mc> !caps | Kyle_XY
[00:55] <madjoe> eremite: I need it to drag and drop easily without raising any other window... how can I use tabs?
[00:55] <blendmaster1024> Scunizi, ok, i'll look into that. i would still like to be able to send from the localhost though.
[00:55] <eremite> uswe two windows, judt dont use them at full screen.
[00:55] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: does it still apply to me if I use a fat32-formatted ipod?
[00:55] <eremite> uswe two windows, judt dont use them at full screen. @ madjoe
[00:55] <acicula> sekyourbox: yes, but not by default
[00:55] <Scunizi> blendmaster1024: won't happen.. but I think you'll find mutt an engaging cli mail client
[00:55] <eremite> sorry, my typing is poor.  New keyboard, small layout.
[00:55] <DIL> PlasmaSheep,  http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/482/mounting-ipods-with-readwrite-access/
[00:56] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: thanks
[00:56] <Celldweller_Abhi> The term Media Center may be defined either as a dedicated computer appliance or a specialized application software designed to run on standard personal computer hardware which then becomes a so called ?HTPC? (?Home Theater PC). For Ubuntu , we have three awesome Media Centers lined up namely ? XBMC, Enna Media Center and MOOVIDA .For details see
[00:56] <Celldweller_Abhi> Ubuntu Media Center - 3 Best Linux media centers - http://bit.ly/9Bwr0t
[00:56] <sekyourbox> Acicula, I can just add a file named xorg.conf, and it will detect it?
[00:56] <acicula> sekyourbox: well it needs a valid config too
[00:56] <Myrtti> Kyle_XY: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
[00:57] <cassini> Hi, If i have 2 boxes connected to one routeur, how can I connect to the other machine by its name ? Do i need to install a DNS server somewhere on my network ?
[00:57] <madjoe> eremite: I know, but it's not what I want.. I'd like to know if there's any way I could do something like this http://www.qweas.com/downloads/system/file-disk-management/scr-xplorer2-lite.jpeg
[00:57] <Kyle_XY> myrtti ur a life saver
[00:57] <Kyle_XY> thanks so much
[00:57] <acicula> sekyourbox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/ start there
[00:57] <nightrid3r> cassini: edit /etc/hosts
[00:58] <eremite> madjoe, you should look into an app named Krusader
[00:58] <madjoe> eremite: ok.. I hope it's not a big app
[00:58] <DIL> !samba | cassini
[00:59] <eremite> madjoe,  also see emelFM2
[00:59] <cassini> nightrid3r - that's ok with 2 machines, but let say that I have 5 and the routeur gives an dynamic IP via DHCP ?
[00:59] <madjoe> eremite: which one is better?
[00:59] <Kyle_XY> oh but it`s not what I want
[00:59] <cassini> ubottu - I don't want to cooperate with windows, that's linux machines
[00:59] <ddrj> why does xbmc run so slow on my pc? i mean it's got two cores... amd ii x2 250
[00:59] <tliebeck> Hi all..quick ?.... is there any way to run multiple backgrounds with Compiz *and* have Nautilus draw the Desktop?
[01:00] <tliebeck> 9.10
[01:00] <nightrid3r> cassini: they will need static ip for this to work
[01:00] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: so after installing it, do I unmount the ipod and then remount it?
[01:00] <waltercool> where is ubuntuone configuration files? I want delete my data and add it again
[01:00] <DIL> PlasmaSheep,  try it
[01:00] <eremite> tliebeck, do you nowj the default space wallpaper theme that changes?  Find that in your filesystem and then replace the files, then open the xml file and edit it to have the names of the new files you added.
[01:00] <cassini> - nightrid3r, yes and that's a pain...
[01:00] <nightrid3r> cassini: another option is to give 1 a static ip, setup dns and dhcp on that box and disable dhcp in the router
[01:01] <tliebeck> eremite...thanks, sorry tough wasn't looking for rotating wallpapers...am running compiz with 12 different wallpapers, 1 per desktop.
[01:01] <cassini> nightrid3r, I like this idea, seems complex but elegant :)
[01:02] <tliebeck> It's worth not having nautilus on desktop to do that IMO...just keeping "desktop' link in panel.
[01:02] <nightrid3r> cassini: or if you'r lucky you router suppprts static adresses in dhcp based on mac adress of box
[01:02] <tliebeck> But would prefer to have normal desktop icons if possible.
[01:02] <eremite> tliebeck, sorry I cant help.  Im not that meticulous about wallpapers.
[01:02] <eedge> Hi, is there any alternative to configuring a whole dns service (like bind or something) if I just want to alias some external dns endpoints that might theortically change...
[01:02] <tliebeck> no prob, thanks anyway
[01:02] <cassini> nightrid3r, I'm not that lucky :(
[01:03] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: didn't work.
[01:03] <Scunizi> nightrid3r: cassini most routers these days will allow you to set the number of provided dhcp addresses.. if you assign a static IP to a box just make it outside that range..
[01:03] <PlasmaSheep> after sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod, I can still see and navigate the device file tree, but am unable to create or delete files.
[01:03] <Losha> cassini: in practice, unless the addresses are ISP assigned, the router will give the same dhcp addresses to the same machines every time they re-lease, so it's almost as good as them having static addresses, on a small network.
[01:04] <nightrid3r> Losha: until the router crashes
[01:04] <civpro> how do u change ssh logout time?
[01:04] <cassini> Losha : it's too risky in a production environment
[01:04] <Scunizi> nightrid3r: cassini or better yet don't even fool with the dhcp server .. just assign a static IP to your boxes that is "high" .. like 192.168.0.200 & 192.168.0.201 .. the dhcp server always starts numbering from the bottom and I doubt you have 200 machines hook on hte LAN
[01:04] <naples_guy> after a new install, ubuntu reminded me that my laptop battery stinks.  I changed the battery, how can I run that diagnostic test again?
[01:04] <Losha> cassini: in a production environment, you should give them static addresses....
[01:05] <PlasmaSheep> DIL: It's frustrating. Up to a point, everything automounted well. Then, I can hardly get anything to mount, and practically nothing works as intended.
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> tliebeck, i don't think it's possible to use Compiz wallpaper + have desktop icons...  I wish there was a way, but I've never seen one
[01:05] <Scunizi> naples_guy: you actually in naples? Italia?
[01:05] <ajnewbold> if I do update-manager -d, will the world explode?
[01:05] <cassini> Scuzini : I'll do that
[01:05] <Losha> nightrid3r: I forgot about that. My linksys hasn't crashed in over a year. My ubuntu box has though :-)
[01:05] <ajnewbold> I'm using 9.10 now and it says I can upgrade to 10.04
[01:05] <Scunizi> cassini: it's the easiest solution..
[01:05] <acicula> ajnewbold: it may
[01:06] <naples_guy> Scunizi, not quite, I vacation in Naples, FL, USA.  It's just my favorite place to be
[01:06] <ajnewbold> acicula: if I do it, and everything's cool, will I also be able to go from 10.04 to 10.10 when it's available?  I've never updated ubuntu before :/
[01:06] <Scunizi> cassini: the trick will be to get network manager to remember you set a static IP.. if you have issues then install wicd and use that.
[01:06] <tliebeck> ZykoticK9, thanks, what I figured, oh well
[01:06] <Scunizi> naples_guy: ok.. thought I'd find someone in my old stomping grounds.
[01:06] <eremite> 10.04 is NOT a stable release.  You can install the upgrade, but if problems arise it is to be expected and not the sole fault of Ubuntu if your data is lost.  :D
[01:06] <acicula> ajnewbold: 10.04 is out, so youd be updating to the alpha, several times in fact, but for lucid support check #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <civpro> anyone know how to change the ssh timout period, where it closes connection after a certain amount of inactivity?
[01:07] <acicula> *isnt
[01:07] <chili555> cassini: in a production environment with static IPs, I'd remove Network Manager
[01:07] <naples_guy> System > Admin > Update Manager... can this be run from the command line?
[01:07] <cassini> Scuzini : the only problem with static IP is when you have a "guest" connecting on your network.
[01:07] <Scunizi> civpro: if you use screen with ssh then if it does close you can log back in and your processes will still be running.
[01:07] <acicula> naples_guy: update-manager
[01:07] <soreau> civpro: maybe in ssh config? try man ssh?
[01:07] <cassini> nightrid3r: I'll try the DNS setup, and see how thinks are going
[01:08] <civpro> soreau thanks
[01:08] <naples_guy> acicula, any idea about the battery diagnostics?
[01:08] <ka0tic> a program screwed up my screen resolution, is there a way to fix it in realtime?
[01:08] <madjoe> eremite: http://168hours.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/10-total-commander-alternatives-for-linux/
[01:08] <acicula> naples_guy: gnome-power-manager
[01:08] <Scunizi> cassini: that's not an issue for the guest.. the dhcp server will still provide addresses.. by making your IP's high on the list there is little chance of having a conflict
[01:08] <nightrid3r> cassini: if you have guests connecting that will be the best solution
[01:08] <ZykoticK9> ka0tic, if you're using nvidia just open nvidia-settings for other graphics card?  no idea.
[01:08] <soreau> ka0tic: Yes. Try Sys>Prefs>Display
[01:09] <eremite> madjoe, yeah.  The ones I mentioned are in that list.  You obviously have a choice :D
[01:09] <cassini> Scuzini, nightrid3r, you are both rights... No I'll have to choose ;) Thanks a lot for your help :)
[01:09] <Scunizi> cassini: the way I have suggested is exactly how I have my setup at home.. I"ve limited my linksys router to provide only 20 IP via DHCP and I've assigned my machine and my wife's a high address..
[01:09] <madjoe> eremite: I'm looking this XFE... not sure which one is the best
[01:10] <Losha> civpro: not sure about changing the timeout, but I know you can prevent it from happening altogether by configuring TCPKeepAlive yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, if that helps...
[01:10] <Kyle_XY> I have an exercice A programm that takes 3 arguments, a number, an operation such as + - \* / and % only and a second number, and the programm gives the result of the operation whatever it is. I want to test if the first and the third arguments are numbers with if then. So i tried if [ $1 -ge 0 -o -lt 0 ] ; then expr $1 $2 $3. It works and all, but after a bit I realised that if i put for example 9 + u, it gives me an error, and it shoudlnt, coz it should
[01:10] <Kyle_XY> nt even do the addition! so greater than or less than doesnt let me test if the argument is a number, logically wrong. So i assumed I must use grep with echo like if [ grep [0-9] < echo $1 ] ; then ... But it`s not working either. Please help, and i`m using #!/bin/sh! Thank you
[01:10] <civpro> losha yes thats what i was looking for
[01:11] <Scunizi> civpro: screen is a great program to use when you're ssh'd into a machine even if you change ssh's config to keep the session alive..
[01:11] <civpro> i am use to putty though
[01:12] <Scunizi> civpro: putty is the ssh access to a machine.. once you're in the machine you run screen in the remote machine..
[01:12] <PlasmaSheep> I've managed to mount my ipod, but I don't have write access to it from a non-root user. This makes it worthless. The ipod is fat32-formatted. Please help.
[01:12] <Scunizi> civpro: you still use putty..
[01:12] <civpro> oh ok
[01:12] <Scunizi> !screen | civpro
[01:12] <civpro> just apt-get screen?
[01:12] <civpro> nice
[01:12] <Scunizi> civpro: yes.. on the remote machine
[01:12] <Kyle_XY> I have an exercice A programm that takes 3 arguments, a number, an operation such as + - \* / and % only and a second number, and the programm gives the result of the operation whatever it is. I want to test if the first and the third arguments are numbers with if then. So i tried if [ $1 -ge 0 -o -lt 0 ] ; then expr $1 $2 $3. It works and all, but after a bit I realised that if i put for example 9 + u, it gives me an error, and it shoudlnt, coz it should
 nt even do the addition! so greater than or less than doesnt let me test if the argument is a number, logically wrong. So i assumed I must use grep with echo like if [ grep [0-9] < echo $1 ] ; then ... But it`s not working either. Please help, and i`m using #!/bin/sh! Thank you
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > Kyle_XY
[01:13] <Losha> Kyle_XY: if you have a regular expression match operator, you can test if an operand contains only characters from the set 0 thru 9...
[01:14] <vikasap> I am unable to find the glibc source package in karmic. Where can I find it ?
[01:14] <acicula> vikasap: apt-get source <package> fetches the source
[01:14] <PlasmaSheep> I've managed to mount my ipod, but I don't have write access to it from a non-root user. This makes it worthless. The ipod is fat32-formatted. Please help.
[01:14] <acicula> into your current directory
[01:14] <eremite> madjoe, I would go with the one best suited to yoru desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, XFCE etc.)  You probably use Gnome with Ubuntu, so Gnome based apps may be the best for integration with your system.
[01:14] <vikasap> acicula: It doesnt for glibc
[01:14] <soreau> vikasap: You mean the devel package containing the headers and such?
[01:15] <acicula> vikasap: what command are you using?
[01:15] <vikasap> soreau: Yeah the cource code
[01:15] <Myrtti> PlasmaSheep: you need to set uid/gid flags when you're mounting, otherwise it defaults to root
[01:15] <madjoe> eremite: that's right.. gnome.. so my choice has been reduced to xfe, I guess
[01:15] <vikasap> acicula: sudo apt-get source glibc
[01:15] <PlasmaSheep> Myrtti: okay, how do I do that?
[01:15] <acicula> vikasap: there is a difference between getting the source, and getting glibc-dev
[01:15] <Losha> Kyle_XY: I don't care if you don't have a belly button, please don't PM me...
[01:15] <acicula> vikasap: the latter installes the headers into the system path so you can use it for compilation, is that what you need?
[01:15] <Kyle_XY> sorry i didnt meen to be rude...
[01:16] <hanasaki> how do you get gdm to come up when running Xvnc
[01:16] <hanasaki> ?
[01:16] <soreau> vikasap: I'm not seeing a package in the repos named glibc specifically
[01:16] <Kyle_XY> sorry i didnt meen to be rude...
[01:16] <nightrid3r> cassini: http://www.semicomplete.com/articles/dynamic-dns-with-dhcp/
[01:16] <vikasap> acicula: Nope , not just the headers. I am trying to understand some piece of code in ctr1
[01:16] <acicula> vikasap: the proper package name is maybe libc6
[01:16] <jdfranklin2> Does anyone know how to make a shell script a command in the terminal?
[01:16] <soreau> vikasap: The question is, why do you need the source?
[01:17] <soreau> or why do you think you need it
[01:17] <vikasap> soreau: I said it. I need to look at how it works :)
[01:17] <PlasmaSheep> Myrtti?
[01:17] <soreau> vikasap: Well I think you have the wrong ubuntu package name
[01:17] <civpro> ok and 1 more thing, a good editor instead of nano, something hopefully that works with line numbers
[01:18] <Losha> Kyle_XY: bash has a =~ operator. Something like $1 -= '[0-9]+' will be true iff $1 contains only the characters 0 thru 9 in any combination...
[01:18] <vonderer> hi
[01:18] <civpro> through ssh ofcourse
[01:18] <vonderer> have a problem with my xubuntu: autostart for some apps won't work
[01:18] <PlasmaSheep> Don't abandon me Myrtti!
[01:19] <vikasap> soreau: I think it is libc6 as acicula said. getting that now.
[01:19] <PlasmaSheep> Okay, another one bites the dust. <_<
[01:19] <PlasmaSheep> I've managed to mount my ipod, but I don't have write access to it from a non-root user. This makes it worthless. The ipod is fat32-formatted. Please help.
[01:19] <Kyle_XY> im not using bash
[01:19] <Myrtti> PlasmaSheep: there's a lot of help in 'man mount', but you're looking for mount options, specifically '-o uid=yourusername,gid=yourusername' if I'm not too badly wrong
[01:19] <Losha> Kyle_XY: what *are* you using?
[01:19] <madjoe> eremite: take a look: http://berndth.blogspot.com/2009/06/nautilus-split-view-update.html
[01:20] <Kyle_XY> sh
[01:20] <civpro> gedit?
[01:20] <Kyle_XY> #!/bin/sh
[01:20] <civpro> or what do you guys recommend, i hate nano
[01:20] <vikasap> acicula: Thats the one. Thanks
[01:20] <PlasmaSheep> Myrtti: that worked, I now have write access. Now to make rhythmbox see it...
[01:21] <eremite> civpro, Vim or Emacs, unless you like GUI apps then I suggest Leafpad or gedit.\
[01:21] <baconbits> civpro, learn vim. It's worth it.
[01:21] <Jon-> Do I really need to keep all these older versions of the Ubuntu kernel in my GRUB loader? How do I remove them?
[01:21] <eremite> Jon-, no.  There is a safe way to remove them.  Sorry i dont know it.
[01:21] <civpro> ok
[01:21] <civpro> na im straight ssh terminal, dont want graphical
[01:22] <Losha> Kyle_XY: switch to bash. It's generally compatible and a superset of /bin/sh
[01:22] <Jon-> eremite: Well I could always go into the grub file in vim and remove them manually, but the next GRUB update will add them again...
[01:22] <civpro> but line numbers are wonderful
[01:22] <chili555> Jon-: synaptic is your friend
[01:22] <eremite> civpro,  then I would suggest Vim, personally.
[01:22] <civpro> when editing and troubleshooting
[01:22] <civpro> ok ill try that out
[01:22] <Jon-> chili555: meaning?
[01:22] <eremite> Jon-, dont jst remove them from grub, remove the old kernal.
[01:22]  * matelot please help - PC is suddenly booting into GRUB, this is jaunty on WUBI
[01:22] <Jon-> eremite: how?
[01:22] <Kyle_XY> i cant switch to bash it`s for uni i have to use sh
[01:23] <eremite> Jon-, like I said - I dont know.
[01:23] <matelot> AndyGraybeal: yes all the time
[01:23] <matelot> never like tis
[01:23] <baconbits> civpro, to turn on numbers in vim: ':set number'
[01:23] <matelot> dont know what to do
[01:23] <vikasap> matelot: Keep hitting escape till you get the grub menu
[01:23] <baconbits> civpro, and to jump to a line number, for example line 5, simply type :5
[01:23] <civpro> oh is there any editor by default you see this?
[01:24] <Losha> Kyle_XY: do you have the expr command? man expr
[01:24] <chili555> Jon-: open synaptic, search for linux-image-whatever version and mark for removal. do the same for linux-headers-same_version
[01:24] <civpro> ive done everything through nano up to date, but to be honest nano is lacking
[01:24] <eremite> civpro, http://www.go2linux.org/clean-linux-kernel-images-grub-menu
[01:24] <chili555> Jon-: and linux-backports
[01:24] <Kyle_XY> wait
[01:24] <etzerd> hello all
[01:24] <matelot> vikasap: ok, I got the grub menu
[01:24] <matelot> now what
[01:25] <Losha> Kyle_XY: sure. I have nothing else to do except wait on you...
[01:25] <Kyle_XY> yes I do have the expr command
[01:25] <baconbits> civpro, you can save vim's settings. :mkv I think. I know some gui clients have numbers by default, like geany, but I don't think they also run in the terminal. It's really worth trying to do it with vim, imho.
[01:25] <civpro> eremite, thanks
[01:25] <Kyle_XY> im sorry... I was just checking thats what i meant by wait...
[01:25] <etzerd> until now no one can tell me what should to install unbutu in my Dell 1764 laptop that come with an Intel HD video card
[01:25] <eremite> http://chvnx.com/post/453355866/linux-geeks
[01:25] <matelot> vikasap: I'm at the menu - now what
[01:26] <chili555> Jon-: i would keep at least one older kernel version in case you need to boot into it to clear a problem
[01:26] <etzerd> everytime I installed Ubuntu and reboot the screen is black no image whatsoever
[01:26] <MajorAstr> ok
[01:26] <jdfranklin2> is there a way to make a script a terminal command (e.g. tools for backtrack that won't install in ubuntu but will run as a script)
[01:26] <Losha> Kyle_XY: expr has a regexp match command, which will return 0 for a match, something like if [ expr match "$1" "[0-9]+" ]; then. You might have to experiment with the syntax, it's been years since I used it...
[01:26] <eremite> Jon-, I agree with chili555 that you shoujld keep the latest kernal that worked for you incase of future problems.
[01:27] <ChogyDan> etzerd: have you tried the alpha?  see if it is fixed there
[01:27] <Jon-> eremite: Do I need to repopulate my GRUB list now?
[01:27] <etzerd> ChogyDan: there's an alpha? where can I get it?
[01:27] <Kyle_XY> thank u losha, ill try that
[01:27] <Kyle_XY> sorry to bother, i didnt mean...
[01:27] <ChogyDan> !lucid | etzerd
[01:27] <chili555> Jon-
[01:28] <Losha> Kyle_XY: no problem, just busting your chops. We usually say "please wait" where I'm from....
[01:28] <vikasap> matelot: Boot whichever os you want
[01:28] <Jon-> chili555: Ahh I see it's doing it for me with apt-get nevermind
[01:28] <chili555> Jon-: the removal process will handle all that for you
[01:28] <eremite> Does anyone here have know of Remastersys and how I could use it without a connection?  It appears to want to install a bunch of gnome packages that I dont want and the install will not progress without an internet connection.
[01:28] <ChogyDan> etzerd: see alpha3.  Keep in mind, all the warnings are true, random breakage can and will happen till it is released
[01:29] <etzerd> I will try that
[01:29] <QuestionMan> Hey, I'm a Debian user right now and I have a question about moving to Ubuntu.
[01:29] <etzerd> ChogyDan: thansk. I'm going to dounload it and give it a try
[01:29] <ChogyDan> np
[01:29] <Kyle_XY> i meant wait till i go check, i didnt mean wait im busy...
[01:30] <QuestionMan> Can you install Ubuntu without a CPU?
[01:30] <jdfranklin2> ummm....
[01:30] <frankS2> no
[01:30] <eremite> No
[01:30] <Myrtti> QuestionMan: say, what?
[01:30] <Kyle_XY> u were helping i was just trying to understand
[01:30] <jdfranklin2> no
[01:30] <eremite> lawl
[01:30] <DaemonFC> and pretend it's there? why not?
[01:30] <DaemonFC> :)
[01:30] <Losha> etzerd: frankly. if you're having install problems, I'd move backwards to earlier releases, not forwards to more unstable ones. Try 8.04 LTS instead...
[01:30] <stercor>  I purchased an eMachine and wish to install Ubunru.  Can this be done?
[01:30] <frankS2> you cant boot your PC without a CPU
[01:30] <frankS2> stercor: yes
[01:30] <eremite> stercor,  yes
[01:30] <sqwertle> How can a ISO be emulated for use with booting from VirtualBox OSE?
[01:30] <Losha> Kyle_XY: either way, it's polite to say please when someone's volunteering their time to help you...
[01:30] <QuestionMan> I have an IBM vacuum tube based business computer.
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> sqwertle, VBox accepts ISO - that's the typical way to use VBox
[01:31] <ChogyDan> sqwertle: I think virtualbox does that for you
[01:31] <Kyle_XY> ok sorry, i will next time
[01:31] <Kyle_XY> i didnt mean to be rude
[01:31] <Kyle_XY> thank you anw
[01:31] <Losha> Kyle_XY: good luck...
[01:31] <QuestionMan> Losha: Good manners is debonair.
[01:31] <Kyle_XY> Thank you
[01:31] <civpro> just a fyi line numbers are shown in vim by default :)
[01:32] <MajorAstr> I have a pc that won't post how can I tell if it is mb or CPU
[01:32] <QuestionMan> Can I install Ubuntu if my PC runs DOS?
[01:32] <chili555> vim rocks
[01:32] <sqwertle> ZykoticK9, ChogyDan: It doesn't seem to be able to do that. Even after mounting the ISO it cannot find any boot media and has no option (that I've seen) for just running an ISO.
[01:32] <QuestionMan> MajorAstr: Does it beep?
[01:32] <etzerd> Losha: I have a brand new Dell laptop that I bought last month. It came with an integrated Intel HD graphic card which is not compatible with any distros out there
[01:32] <kindofabuzz> QuestionMan, what's your processor speed?
[01:32] <MajorAstr> nothing dead
[01:32] <Losha> MajorAstr: some of them will give diagnostic beeps. Check your manual...
[01:32] <stercor> QuestionMan:  My first computer was an IBM 1620.  However -- I hasten to add -- I never wired a plugboard :-)
[01:32] <xxiao_> ffmpeg -i /dev/video0 -target vcd test1.mpg  ---/dev/video0: Unknown format? trying to record from a webcam
[01:32] <QuestionMan> kindofabuzz: 10 MHz 80286
[01:32] <sqwertle> etzerd: Try using Lucid Lynx, the 2.6.32 kernel will support the integrated intel card that comes with a lot of new laptops
[01:33] <Silent_Dream> does anyone have a step by step walk through for me to get this specific model of wireless usb adapter working on ubuntu (its not supported out of box):Linksys  WUSB54GSC
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> QuestionMan, no, i think an i386 is the min. even for puppy linux
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> for a gui that is
[01:33] <MajorAstr> are you saying that if the CPU is dead then motherboard should post and beep
[01:33] <Nollog> 10 MHz, that must be worth a fortune.
[01:33] <Losha> etzerd: which card?
[01:33] <velizar> compiz in xfce fucks the environment.. after launching there is no more window manager
[01:33] <QuestionMan> MajorAstr: I've had some success fixing machines that won;t POST by pulling the CMOS battery.
[01:34] <velizar> and there is no minimize maximize close etc.
[01:34] <etzerd> Integrated intel HD card
[01:34] <MajorAstr> tried that
[01:34] <velizar> the true is one - GNOME!!!
[01:34] <sqwertle> etzerd: the Intel accelerated HD card?
[01:34] <etzerd> yes
[01:34] <sqwertle> etzerd: Lucid Lynx (Ubuntu 10.04) will support that.
[01:34] <MajorAstr> what voltage is the CMOS battery
[01:34] <sqwertle> etzerd: (out of the box)
[01:34] <PlasmaSheep> Myrtti: thanks for the help. Instead of rhythmbox, I'm using gtkpod.
[01:35] <Losha> etzerd: I take it back, then. Best of luck to you...
[01:35] <chili555> Silent_Dream : they come in several versions all with different chipsets. which is yours?
[01:35] <QuestionMan> Hey, can you still order Ubuntu installation media? How many 360k 5.25" floppy discs do I need?
[01:35] <etzerd> the laptop is an Intel i5 M430 2.26 MGz
[01:35] <Silent_Dream> chili555: version 2.0 is the one i've been able to use succesfully on windows
[01:35] <eremite> velizar, compiz is working as the window manager but probably doent have any themes installed.  I dont use it with xfce4, only Gnome and KDE.  I suggest that you install some compiz window manager themes or try replacing the window manager with something else.  Try in a terminal    $ replace --metacity   (if you used Gnome originally, before xfce)
[01:35] <sqwertle> etzerd: can you post the model number?
[01:35] <Silent_Dream> ubuntu 9.10 if you meant version of ubuntu
[01:36] <QuestionMan> Hey, can you still order Ubuntu installation media? How many 360k 5.25" floppy discs do I need?
[01:36] <Myrtti> QuestionMan: they ship only CDs.
[01:36] <QuestionMan> Ah. :(
[01:36] <hipitihop> one of my logins seems to have had some kde based desktop installed which I tried to remove, but now I can't get past the login screen for that user..what configuration file should I remove to go back to default gnome desktop
[01:36] <gandalfcome> how can I force apt-get to only upgrade from a specified repository and not the ones listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:36] <kindofabuzz> QuestionMan, tha's a stupid question. quit trolling
[01:36] <stercor> I have the latest .iso.  Will I have to wait until I burn a DVD, or can I use (easily) unetbootin-windows-=408?
[01:36] <penguinv> hello
[01:36] <penguinv> Ubuntu 9.10 keeps crashing - not on startup. Only after a while. But 3x today. I have not been able to figure out how to report it.. I have copied a few logs and the ls to /var/logs in the right place. I've spent a long time going through this.
[01:36] <etzerd> Dell 1764, Intel new 2010 i5 M430
[01:36] <Nick_Meister> hi guys my sound is gone, and the user bar at the top is gone too
[01:37] <eremite> stercor, I used UNbootin a about a month ago and it worked awesomely for the machine I was working on.
[01:37] <QuestionMan> I'd like to see a Ubuntu on Windows distribution.
[01:37] <DasEi> gandalfcome: you set this in sources.list (or in synaptic, which writes there) , otherwise can just use direct wget & install, overwritten by the next update then
[01:37] <eremite> penguinv, was this error there when you freshly installed, or did it happen after a particular event which you are aware of?
[01:38] <Losha> penguinv: crashes at random places are most often due to bad hardware. Run a memtest overnight for starters...
[01:38] <stercor> eremite:  I'm kinda gun-shy.  I don't want to wind up with a paperweighe.
[01:38] <sqwertle> etzerd: Dell Inspiron 1764-5955IBU?
[01:38] <Losha> kindofabuzz: yeah, trolling for sure...
[01:38] <miracle> hi
[01:38] <QuestionMan> How much of Ubuntu can I run inside Cygwin?
[01:38] <chili555> Silent_Dream, please see  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1247163&highlight=WUSB54GSC  it looks like ndiswrapper is the method. what does lsusb say it is?
[01:39] <QuestionMan> I'm just asking questions.
[01:39] <notanick> hello
[01:39] <eremite> LOL, stercor I know the feeling.  Let's see if we can get you though this.  So, did you always have this problem or is it new?
[01:39] <stercor> And then there's the Acer Inspiron...
[01:39] <naquan> penguinv, try checking the disks with fsck, it may help.
[01:39] <MajorAstr> one more question with the 12 volt to CPU plug pulled out I can get the fans to spin
[01:39] <stercor> bis Morgin..
[01:39] <etzerd> sqwertle: let me look at the box
[01:40] <sqwertle> VirtualBox OSE doesn't seem to have support for handling raw ISO's, is there a ay to virtually mount them so that VBOSE can boot from that media?
[01:40] <QuestionMan> turtle_ can't speak,
[01:40] <QuestionMan> Someone help turtle_.
[01:40]  * matelot please help - PC is suddenly booting into GRUB, no Desktop, this is jaunty on WUBI
[01:40] <hanasaki> how can I get a gdm login screen via VNC and also after logging in be able disconnect/reconnect to the logged in session?
[01:40]  * notanick loves ubuntu
[01:41] <Silent_Dream> chili555: to do that, i would need to install ndiswrapper, which means i'd need working internet, which is what i'm trying to achieve by getting the wireless adapter recognized
[01:41] <madjoe> eremite: ha! you didn't know this.. check this out - http://subbass.blogspot.com/2009/12/howto-split-pane-nautilus.html
[01:41] <Silent_Dream> i suppose i could put ndiswrapper on a flash drive on windows and then transfer to ubuntu
[01:41] <madjoe> eremite: Nautilus has a dual pane already for Karmic, but it was written for Lucid
[01:41] <notanick> would XDMCP over SSH tunnel work for remote desktop GDM login?
[01:41] <penguinv> Ubuntu 9.10 keeps crashing - not on startup. Only after a while. But 3x today. I have not been able to figure out how to report it.. I have copied a few logs and the ls to /var/logs in the right place. I've spent a long time going through this. (AMD, old with agp-pci) certainly I've done flash in youtube. Once it crashed while playing.  [01:41] <penguinv> understand them.  THE DISK checker palimset does not complain. UM OK what do I do to run a memtest. DITTO for fsck.  I have spent hours on this. The recovery (alt+sysrq + reisum does nothing). The logs are really big. Launchpad reports nothing similar and is daunting.
[01:42] <hipitihop> how do I reset session defaults for a given user
[01:42] <eremite> madjoe, wow, that's really awesome.  Thanks for sharing!  I had no idea.  I feel bad for telling people to install other packages, now.
[01:42] <chili555> Silent_Dream, i think the ndiswrapper packages are on the install CD. do you have the driver cd for the devive that has the windows inf file?
[01:42] <QuestionMan> Hey can I run Ubuntu with protected mode disabled?
[01:42] <penguinv> checking on memtest on my machine.
[01:42] <etzerd> sqwertle: the Model number is: Dell Inspiron i1764-60750BK
[01:42] <madjoe> eremite: yes, I wanted to share that with you not to spread bad recommendations ;) I love this info
[01:42] <Silent_Dream> chili555: im not sure, never messed with drivers like this before..dont really know any of the terminology here
[01:43] <Nick_Meister> My sound dissapeared all of a sudden what do i do?
[01:43] <DasEi> penguinv: what does crash mean ? inresponsive ? shutdown ?
[01:43] <penguinv> terminal doesnt know about memtest
[01:43] <turtle_> hello
[01:43] <psusi> penguinv, alt+sysrq+b doesn't reboot?
[01:43] <notanick> hello turtle
[01:43] <penguinv> Nick_Meister, did you try a system sound? or restarting your browser. chrome does that on me.
[01:43] <eremite> madjoe, that's exactly what the free software qand open source community is about.  We need to share info about the software we use so that people can use it better.
[01:43] <turtle_> thank you notanick
[01:43] <chili555> Silent_Dream,  can you give us the Linksys part of the terminal command lsusb? maybe we can find a better way
[01:44] <penguinv> psusi no
[01:44] <turtle_> Now I know that I am not invisible
[01:44] <madjoe> eremite: yes, I agree
[01:44] <Silent_Dream> Chili555: that thread you linked me to had a bunch of ubuntu addicts replying and then eventually giving up after 3 pages so it doesnt look promising.
[01:44] <j0> I'm having problems with write performance on one of my Ubuntu machines running 2.6.18.. If I run bonnie++, my system will lock up for 10-20 seconds at a time during the writing process; when looking at vmstat, the blocks out column goes to 0 for that entire time
[01:44] <j0> I'm using md in RAID1 with 3 drives
[01:44] <Nick_Meister> penguinv, yes, i also went into gestreamer-properties and hit test, and nothing ahppened
[01:44] <Losha> penguinv: when you boot, hit ESC and you should get a grub menu. One of the options should be memtest. You run it overnight & it checks your RAM. You won't be able to use your computer for anything else while memtest is running...
[01:44] <psusi> penguinv, that's a hard hang alright... nearly impossible to debug really...
[01:44] <gandalfcome> DasEi: but if i do set this in sources.list and run apt-get upgrade it will also upgrade the packages from all other repos
[01:44] <QuestionMan> Can I install Ubuntu without a memory controller?
[01:44] <madjoe> eremite: sometimes I see open source as a big communist organization that does no harm.. lol
[01:44] <Silent_Dream> chili555: i can do that, i suppose I'll need to reboot and run taht command and then reboot again...
[01:45] <Losha> !ops | QuestionMan is trolling...
[01:45] <Silent_Dream> can you tell me any specifics i might need to know about using that command, do i just type lusb
[01:45] <penguinv> Dasei crash means freeze. once it froze repeating the same sound. Overnight when I hit the keyboard it was black. I have done the hard reboot.
[01:45] <DasEi> gandalfcome: sure, but what do you want to achieve in the end ?
[01:45] <chili555> Silent_Dream, i will be here. i am especially interested in the usb.id, something like 123e:456a
[01:45] <gandalfcome> DasEi: I jsut want to upgrade from one repository. not from the others
[01:45] <j0> is there any known write performance issues with 2.6.18? Will the new i/o scheduler in 2.6.34 be any better? Is there a better place to ask this question? :)
[01:45] <sCOTTo> hey guys - can someone out there help me setting up DHCP server ? I am trying to make a Gateway for my office ;)
[01:46] <Silent_Dream> chili555: i cannot connect to internet on ubuntu though
[01:46] <Silent_Dream> I suppose ill need to save the output to flashdrive and reboot to windows which i have net access to
[01:46] <penguinv> terminal doesnt know memtest but it does know fsck so I have something to read.
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> j0:  ive seen a few sites that have been doing linux benchmarks on the differnt kernels. (andtech web site?)  That may have some hard data on the kernel versions
[01:46] <chili555> Silent_Dream, can you just write it down? maybe there is a way with a usb key
[01:46] <Silent_Dream> sure
[01:46] <Silent_Dream> be right back
[01:47] <j0> Dr_Willis: ah.. good idea. any keywords to search for off the top of your head?
[01:47] <chili555> ok
[01:47] <etzerd_> sqwertle: the Model number is: Dell Inspiron i1764-60750BK
[01:47] <DasEi> penguinv: I see, can have different reasons;  easiest is to check basic hardware first, 1) memtest 2) hdisk 3) stresstest on chipset/cpu  4)disk not full 5) enough ram ,  next is syslog and messages, best to note the clock when freezing occurs , so can look up there, I'll explain more..
[01:47] <Losha> penguinv: memtest isn't an app like fsck. It runs instead of the OS. You can read about it here though http://www.memtest.org/. It comes standard with ubuntu...
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> j0:  i just recall seeing it in my news feeds.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> j0:  im   pretty sure the site was andtech, or antech.. or somthing like that
[01:48] <DasEi> penguinv: which version are you using ? fresh karmic installl ?
[01:48] <j0> Dr_Willis: anandtech is probably it.. i'll keep googling, thanks
[01:48] <psusi> j0, you are running the kernel 2.6.18?  that's very old and doesn't seem to ever actually been shipped with Ubuntu
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> j0:  it may been the Phronix web site.
[01:49] <penguinv> please someone help me with fsck. What switches should I set? how long will it take on this 10G drive?
[01:49] <sqwertle> etzerd_: The latest Lucid Lynx release should support all of the hardware on your laptop, aside from perhaps the wireless card
[01:49] <psusi> hardy used 2.6.24 and that's 2 years old now...
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> j0:  it may been the Phoronix web site. :)
[01:49] <Losha> j0: Dr_Willis: I would have thought any significant speed change between kernels would be big news...
[01:49] <sqwertle> etzerd_: I can't seem to find the wireless card model, but if you can get back to me with that I can maybe help you there as well.
[01:49] <j0> psusi: lol.. what do you know. this isn't my ubuntu box having the problems
[01:49] <penguinv> ok let me go in reverse dasei, I had 9.10 and updated it. It's been around a month or two.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Losha:  they have been doing lots of bemchmarks over time lately with different kernels, fileysstems and optioons
[01:50] <j0> Losha: depends what you're doing. some of the kernels have huge differences depending on your workload, or file system
[01:50] <j0> Dr_Willis: thanks. i'll check that out :)
[01:50] <penguinv> losha thanks
[01:50] <DasEi> penguinv: so you're on lucid then ? still not released.. support in ubuntu+1
[01:50] <Losha> j0: Dr_Willis: if you find a good link, come back and tell us. I'm interested...
[01:50] <Oddbio> Hello, I have an issue with the audio not working on my laptop when I run Ubuntu GDM DISABLED.  I am assuming that pulse-audio starts up some programs that are initiated by GDM, but when I have it disabled it doesn't get activated.  What programs might this be? Or how can I get my audio working.   I always stop the X server and do a  "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"  to log in and my audio works fine again.  But I would like to do it without G
[01:50] <jenia> hello everyone
[01:50] <eric_L1982> Looking for some great Irish music for tomorrow any one have any recommendations?
[01:51] <penguinv>  dasei ARGHH! ok now, I am calmer. Ok disk full? that might be it. let me check. properties I suppose.
[01:51] <DasEi> !ot | eric_L1982 :)
[01:51] <penguinv> dasei I have no idea what lucid or ubuntu+1 is
[01:51] <Losha> penguinv: lucid, really? You should've mentioned that. Ok, then it might not be hardware. Go to #ubuntu+1
[01:51] <DasEi> penguinv: df -h in terminal tells you
[01:51] <jenia> i ahve a big problem. for some reason i cannot connect to my wireless network because there are no options given when i click on the network button on the bottom right
[01:51] <DasEi> !lucid | penguinv
[01:52] <eric_L1982> sorry, I thought I would through out the question to other ubuntu fans, my bad
[01:52] <hmw> When issuing  "apache2 -M" i get: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} - /etc/apache2/envvars shows as user www-data, which was not installed with apache2. What do I do?
[01:52] <j0> Losha: for ext3 using data=writeback has made huge differences, and the latest kernel has a new i/o scheduler. here's some benchmarks (not sure if it includes the most recent kernel changes) http://blogs.sybase.com/database/2010/03/io-schedulers-is-linux-really-an-enterprise-os/
[01:52] <Pici> penguinv: How did you update it?
[01:52] <penguinv> no I'm NOT in lucid. I updated 9.04 to 9.10. I'm not ready for an early system.
[01:52] <DasEi> penguinv: you said you had 9.10 and dist-upgraded it  (that was karmic) , so no it's lucid ;; can check out :
[01:52] <DasEi> !version
[01:52] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | DasEi
[01:52] <penguinv> I was wrong.
[01:52] <Losha> j0: excellent, thanks...
[01:52] <jenia> does anyone know how can i connect to my wireless network?
[01:52] <notanick> hmw: sounds like you need to add the www-data user?
[01:53] <DasEi> penguinv: so fine then, you run karmic
[01:53] <penguinv> yep, the bear.
[01:53] <hmw> notanick: uhm... i wonder, because earlier, i didnt need to do that. I am using 9.04... is this something new?
[01:53] <zxcvbnm> are the early system (9.10) issues real or just noob issues?
[01:53] <DasEi> penguinv: so df -h to check for diskspace
[01:53] <notanick> hmw: lemme look
[01:54] <penguinv> free space 1.3 G
[01:54] <Pici> zxcvbnm: What do you mean by 'early system' ?
[01:54] <DasEi> penguinv: not much, but no reason to cripple (free some space, before you run in probs)
[01:54] <penguinv> df -h give me 1.4 G
[01:54] <penguinv> I need ot buy a hard drive
[01:54] <notanick> hmw: well, I see www-data on my 9.04 box  via getent passwd www-data
[01:55] <notanick> hmw: uid is 33
[01:55] <penguinv> oh I can put it on a disc, duh
[01:55] <DasEi> penguinv: system specs ?
[01:55] <zxcvbnm> Pici http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
[01:55] <turtle_> Jenia: give us some more info about your network.
[01:55] <notanick> hmw: gid also 33
[01:55] <sqwertle> Would anyone be able to recommend a good virtual ISO tool for Ubuntu? (Looking for something with similar facilities as Daemon-Tools for disk emulation)
[01:55] <notanick> hmw: run "getent passwd www-data" to see if it's ther
[01:55] <penguinv> dasei, what do you want to know for specs. I dont know how to find my speed on unbuntu (on windows I use belarc)
[01:55] <zxcvbnm> Pici, I am asking if that was just noob issues or real issues
[01:55] <jenia> its a wireless network to which i was connecting before this moment with no problems
[01:55] <psusi> squarepeg, no special tools needed... it's just called a loopback mount and linux has done it for ohh... 15 years?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> sqwertle:  not really seen any. rarely much of a need for it. since you can mount ISO files.
[01:56] <DasEi> penguinv: open trml ...
[01:56] <Pici> zxcvbnm: Some of both.  Mostly with people not looking at the release notes to see if there were known issues with certain hardware: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[01:56] <psusi> sqwertle, that was meant for you not squarepeg
[01:56] <DasEi> penguinv: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:56] <jenia> i see that "enable wireless" is de-selected
[01:56] <hmw> notanick: oh... i have that user
[01:56] <penguinv> is that in terminal dasei or GUI?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> sqwertle:  but dont expect wine and fancy copy-protected-games to work with it.
[01:56] <turtle_> jenia: did you check to make sure your router is hooked into the internet?
[01:56] <DasEi> penguinv: terminal
[01:56] <sqwertle> Dr_Willis: I seem to be having a trouble getting VBOSE to use the ISO's that I've mounted.
[01:56] <jenia> yes
[01:56] <Silent_Dream> chili555: ran lsusb -v, you want me to pastebin output or is there a certain line you seek
[01:56] <hmw> notanick: i was trying to check out, why my htaccess rewrites dont work. I wanted to see, if the module is loaded. Any hints on htaccess?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> sqwertle:  you do realize that virtualbox can mount iso files  by itself?
[01:57] <jenia> but i cannot check the enable wiress button
[01:57] <Losha> zxcvbnm: most of those problems are gone. I still see people having deployment trouble with sound, flash and wireless though...
[01:57] <notanick> hmw: okay, great :)
[01:57] <sqwertle> Dr_Willis: I haven't figured out how, or seen any possible way for it to do so.
[01:57] <hmw> notanick: perhaps i installed apache the wrong way? i used synaptics and installed apache2 (with the ubuntu icon)
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> sqwertle:  youve totally overlooked it then in its settings.. its rather trivial to do. Check the vbox manual also. its very well done
[01:57] <DasEi> penguinv: lspci | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <zxcvbnm> Losha I see, so it was new-modules causing bad compatibility with some hardware?
[01:57] <notanick> hmw: synaptics is ok as far as I know, I beleive I did it the same way
[01:57] <sqwertle> Dr_Willis: Alright, thanks.
[01:57] <DasEi> penguinv: give url from trml here
[01:57] <zxcvbnm> And users dont really check release notes, lol
[01:58] <turtle_> jenia: hmmm, can you get to the internet at all, or just not your wireless network?
[01:58] <penguinv> I've got pastebin installed. I'm going to look for the program to burn. (never burned in ubuntu.
[01:58] <DasEi> penguinv: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com     var/log/syslog
[01:59] <penguinv> dasei what does the lspci to pastebinit line do?
[01:59] <hmw> notanick: what do I do now? reinstall apache?
[01:59] <notanick> hmw: start with "sudo apache2ctl status"
[01:59] <chili555> Silent_Dream, is there a line that relates to your Linksys? i need the usb.id, something like 123a:456b
[01:59] <jenia> well its my laptop that is bugging like this, so im not sure if i can connect to a wired network
[01:59] <notanick> hmw: if it's not running, then start it
[01:59] <Losha> zxcvbnm: hard to say. Ubuntu has had sound problems since 8.10. So, for that matter, has fedora. Flash is 3rd party, so it's not clear it's ubuntu's fault, and the network manager has also had problems for a while, causing many people to use wicd instead...
[01:59] <jenia> but i was using it just couple of hours ago
[01:59] <hmw> notanick: You don't have permission to access /server-status on this server.
[01:59] <DasEi> penguinv: run lspci in trml, to see it's output
[01:59] <MajorAstr> how is the latest beta anyone
[02:00] <notanick> hmw: okay, start it with "sudo apache2ctl start"
[02:00] <hmw> notanick: You don't have permission to access /server-status on this server.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> MajorAstr:  it works.. actually its alpha3 i belive.. see #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <DasEi> !paste | penguinv
[02:00] <jenia> and the "wireless network enabled" is unchecked, and its kind of pale to show that i cannot edit that option
[02:00] <jenia> WTF
[02:00] <jenia> ups sorry
[02:00] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:00] <jenia> didnt mean that last part
[02:00] <hmw> notanick: the server was already running
[02:00] <MajorAstr> okk
[02:01] <notanick> hmw: weird...  what does "ps -ef | grep apache" show?
[02:01] <hmw> notanick: if that /server-status was a folder in /var/www, i guess it is no longer there
[02:01] <turtle_> jenia: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:01] <notanick> brb :(
[02:01] <hmw> notanick: apache runs, the main page i installed works, but not some sub page. mod rewrite seems not to be activated
[02:01] <penguinv> dasei, burning .7G of ponyo to cd. that should help
[02:01] <chili555> Silent_Dream: is it 0014:13b1??
[02:01] <imaginativeone> how do I kill firefox?
[02:01] <jenia> 9.10
[02:01] <Losha> zxcvbnm: and you're right. Nobody *reads* any more. If it doesn't have a youtube video....
[02:01] <Jon-> imaginativeone: go to a terminal and type sudo killall firefox
[02:01] <sqwertle> Dr_Willis: Haha, thanks; I've found it. I can't believe I hadn't checked that.
[02:02] <DasEi> penguinv: 2 urls from the paster(s) above ?
[02:02] <hmw> notanick: http://pastebin.com/ux3MpeQZ
[02:02] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:02] <imaginativeone> Jon: thanks
[02:02] <penguinv> I dont understand how to do this or what it is supposed to do.
 penguinv: run lspci in trml, to see it's output
[02:02] <hmw> notanick: looks a little weird, doenst it??
[02:02] <DasEi> (02:58:42) DasEi: penguinv: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com     var/log/syslog
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> sqwertle:  told you it was easy :)
[02:02] <velizar> yes, how do I kill a process? the kill commands asks me for a process number, but I don't know the number for firefox example..
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> velizar:  ps ax | grep programname
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> is one way
[02:02] <DasEi> (02:57:35) DasEi: penguinv: lspci | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> ti get its PID
[02:03] <Jon-> penguinv: Go to a terminal window, type "lspci", copy the output to pastebin (site like http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[02:03] <notanick> hmw: actually, that looks okay I think
[02:03] <turtle_> jenia: right click on the network icon in the system tray and click 'Edit Connections'
[02:03] <notanick> hmw: browse to your localhost "http://localhost" and what do you see?
[02:03] <Silent_Dream> err, im not seeing what you mean
[02:03] <hmw> notanick: the web page, i installed
[02:03] <jenia> okay
[02:03] <notanick> hmw: k
[02:03] <Silent_Dream> oh, the ID
[02:03] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:03] <brjann> velizar: you can    pgrep firefox    to find its pid, or just    killall firefox
[02:03] <hmw> notanick: but in a sub dir i have another page that uses mod rewrite, but it doesnt do rewrite
[02:04] <Silent_Dream> 1737:0075 Linksys
[02:04] <turtle_> jenia: then go to wireless networks and tell me what you see
[02:04] <velizar> with "killall" it works
[02:04] <velizar> thx
[02:04] <chili555> Silent_Dream: is there anything about Broadcom?
[02:04] <notanick> hmw: gotcha. Sounds like apache is working properly. mod rewrite is loaded and uncommented?
[02:04] <jenia> i see my network amongst other things
[02:04] <eremite> velizar, in terminal type xkill <app name>   You can use the TAB key to auto complete many app names, so for example, typing: fire+TAB+TAB (hit TAB twice) would show all process starting with "fire".  Then type xkill <app name> to kill it.  Use pkill to kill ALL apps starting with fire*
[02:04] <hmw> notanick: no idea, i was trying to figure out with apache2 -M
[02:05] <hmw> notanick: checking apache2.conf now
[02:05] <Silent_Dream> nothing about broadcom chili555
[02:05] <Daughain> !compiz
[02:05] <CalmvsKhaos> is synergy easier than it used to or do you still have to muck around a config file? I havent used it in a couple years...
[02:05] <DasEi>  penguinv: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com     /var/log/syslog  (typo above), give resulting urls in here
[02:05] <Jon-> eremite: Difference between pkill and killall ?
[02:05] <turtle_> jenia: select your network and click 'Edit'
[02:06] <eremite> velizar, open a text ediot window and practice closing it with xkill, and then open several windows and use pkill, and that way you can get used to using these commends which are almost harmless
[02:06] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:06] <robertzaccour> how do i get the minimize maximize close buttons on the left side in google chrome?
[02:06] <jenia> yes okay
[02:06] <riz0n> Hi guys, I have a web server online which runs Ubuntu Linux 8.04 LTS server edition. I am in the process of building a new server to replace it, which will have dual opteron CPU's and a couple gigs of registered ECC ram. The new server supports 64-bit software. I don/t plan to run more than 16 GB of ram in the machine. Is there any advantage to using the 64-bit Ubuntu server or should I just stick to 32-bit Ubuntu? Thanks for the advice.
[02:06] <notanick> hmw: "export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data APACHE_RUN_GROUP=www-data"
[02:06] <hmw> notanick: that is in the conf
[02:06] <johnwedd> hello, i need help in controlling my laptop fan
[02:06] <notanick> hmw: then do "apache2 -M"
[02:06] <hmw> notanick: then i get this error
[02:06] <chili555> Silent_Dream, everything i have read says ndiswrapper. i will be happy to assist you on the forum. it's a bit lengthy to go through here
[02:07] <notanick> hmw: I just did it on the command line
[02:07] <hmw> notanick: something wicked goin on
[02:07] <notanick> hmw: uh oh
[02:07] <Silent_Dream> chili555: perhaps ill only be here for another day, maybe its not worth it
[02:07] <turtle_> jenia: Will it let you edit the settings? Just check the box 'Connect Automatically' or something and hit Apply to see if it will let you do that.
[02:07] <hmw> notanick: wait a moment, i check some things
[02:07] <eremite> pkill kills all apps that have the words followed by pkill.  xkill only kills apps that you specifically name.  Example:  "pkill fire"  <-- this would kilel firefox and firestarter on my system.  "Xkill fire" would kill neither. "xkill firefox firestarter" would kill both.
[02:07] <notanick> hmw: k
[02:07] <Silent_Dream> i might be relocating to a place with internet that is wired
[02:07] <DasEi> riz0n: well server-kernel can handle pae on 32 bit, too, but I would use 64 bit at that specs, it's common nowadays
[02:07] <Jon-> eremite: what is the difference between pkill and killall?
[02:07] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:07] <johnwedd> i need an app/s for temp and fan control
[02:07] <jenia> it was already on connect automatically
[02:08] <eremite> Jon-,  see my last comment
[02:08] <eremite> pkill kills all apps that have the words followed by pkill.  xkill only kills apps that you specifically name.  Example:  "pkill fire"  <-- this would kilel firefox and firestarter on my system.  "Xkill fire" would kill neither. "xkill firefox firestarter" would kill both. Jon-
[02:08] <johnwedd> please help
[02:08] <jenia> so i unchecked it and checked it back
[02:08] <turtle_> jenia: okay, and when you hit apply, did it come up with any error messages?
[02:08] <chili555> Silent_Dream, if you need to get it going, post on the forum and give me a private message and i'll help you
[02:08] <Jon-> eremite: that doesn't mention killall at all
[02:08] <hmw> notanick: i got that export www-data thing in /etc/apache2/envvars
[02:08] <jenia> nope
[02:08] <eremite> Im sort of drunk guys, and also on a new keyboard that is alien to my usualy aesthetics.  Sorry for the typos.
[02:08] <Silent_Dream> chili555: sounds good, whats your SN?
[02:09] <eremite> Jon-, killall is just like xkill for the most part.  Sorry.
[02:09] <chili555> Silent_Dream, on the forum, i am chili555
[02:09] <velizar> new problem.. How to COMPLETELY uninstall Xfce on Ubuntu?
[02:09] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:09] <Silent_Dream> allright thanks
[02:09] <eremite> xkill kills GUI apps only I think, Jon-
[02:09] <johnwedd> i need an app/s for temp and fan control
[02:09] <johnwedd> i need an app/s for temp and fan control
[02:09] <johnwedd> please help
[02:09] <FloodBot4> johnwedd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <velizar> sudo apt-get remove xfce4 not uninstalls the environment completely :(
[02:09] <riz0n> DasEi: Thanks for the info. I was told by a friend (when in debate as to whether I should run 32 bit or 64 bit windows on a desktop) that there is no benefit to running 64-bit operating system unless you plan to use more than 16 gigs of ram.
[02:09] <hmw> notanick: alright... exporting the variables did do the trick... any idea, why it does not set them via envvars?
[02:09] <DasEi> http://tinyurl.com/y96tpz , johnwedd
[02:09] <turtle_> jenia: Then that means you should be able to access the internet from your wireless router. Unplug and plug back in your router's power supply then try to connecting then.
[02:10] <notanick> hmw: ah, hrm, no I'm not sure
[02:10] <jenia> okay thanks
[02:10] <Jon-> velizar: Did you use Aptitude when installing?
[02:10] <Jon-> velizar: or apt-get ?
[02:10] <velizar> hmm no
[02:10] <velizar> apt-get
[02:10] <eremite> velizar, open Synaptic and search for xfce4 and remove all packages you need to remove to get rid of the xfce4 environment.
[02:10] <Jon-> velizar: The problem is that when you use apt-get, it does not see the extra applications and such installed as "orphaned", even though they came with the Xfce package
[02:10] <hmw> notanick: another interesting thing, i cannot grep --- http://pastebin.com/TPU81KpF
[02:10] <DasEi> rizon, nah, 4 g ram is the "natural " border for 32 bit, in win can't get around without **lots of hassle in 32, linux has pae least
[02:10] <DasEi> !pae
[02:10] <snxs> hello, i am using this line: Option   "metamodes" "1280x1024 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"  so i can have an option of that resolution, but is not working.. is there another way to add it ?
[02:11] <turtle_> jenia: did it work?
[02:11] <Jon-> velizar: You will have to find the list online and do a big apt-get autoremove
[02:11] <notanick> hmw: that's because the data isn't going to standard output, it's coming on std err
[02:11] <notanick> hmw: I think
[02:11] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:11] <velizar> i tried this. but after installing it again and run, my settings is not deleted
[02:11] <DasEi> rizopae _ physical address extension, means software taking up where chipset's register are filled up
[02:12] <velizar> I wanna make clean install again
[02:12] <hmw> notanick: that wuld be an explanation, weird still. What can I do about the dysfunctional .htaccess stuff?
[02:12] <notanick> hmw: looking
[02:12] <velizar> and I really DON'T like reinstall Ubuntu!! xD
[02:12] <Jon-> velizar: Use sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop xfce --purge
[02:13] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone. I'm a new ubuntu user need some help with my wireless connection. I'm lagging a bit when I get online. Almost all webpages seem to freeze.
[02:13] <Jon-> velizar: the purge deletes settings (should)
[02:13] <notanick> hmw: not sure.  Are you using ".htaccess" with the dot?
[02:13] <penguinv> dasei, I'm overwhelmed. I copied all of the conversation that applied to me into gedit, oops better save it now. DONE. and need to do something else. bye.
[02:13] <hmw> notanick: uhm... i downloaded the files from another web serve, I cannot longer control. Perhaps the contents of .htaccess are no longer compatible?
[02:13] <jenia_> turtle_ none of these things worked
[02:13] <jenia_> nothing
[02:13] <DasEi>  penguinv: I'd like to help you, but you take long to answer, and without information I can't diagnose your issue
[02:13] <jenia_> theres a yellow triangle on my connection icon in the notification area
[02:14] <notanick> hmw: that's possible, there are different syntax for Apache 2 vs 1
[02:14] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:14] <notanick> hmw: also make sure that the www-data user can read the file
[02:14] <hmw> notanick: the web space has been created a month ago. all files are 0777
[02:14] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone. I'm a new ubuntu user need some help with my wireless connection. I'm lagging a bit when I get online. Almost all webpages seem to freeze. Can anyone please help?:
[02:14] <sCOTTo> hey guys - anyone here who can help me a little with config of DHCP ??
[02:14] <notanick> hmw: hehe, fun 0777 :)
[02:15] <notanick> hmw: garhh, alas I don't know at this point... but it looks like you're on your way :)
[02:15]  * notanick must go :(
[02:15] <turtle_> jenia: I know you have probably already tried this, but just left-click on the icon and select your wireless network. Just making sure your computer didn't disconnect from it for some reason (mine does that occasionally.)
[02:15] <naples_guy> is there flash for amd64 ubuntu?
[02:15] <hmw> notanick: would you please take a short look at my .htaccess? its 4 lines: http://pastebin.com/7J6cfgUj
[02:15] <DasEi>  sCOTTo : hopefully, more details ?
[02:16] <DasEi> naples_guy: yes
[02:16] <DasEi> !flash
[02:16] <nightrid3r> jhonnyboy: wireless is always a little tricky, you might have black spots with very weak signal, even close to the AP
[02:17] <DasEi> naples_guy: I mostly install a whole metapackage coming with the most common codecs and flash, too, besides vlc and mozzpluger
[02:17] <hmw> sCOTTo: if it is simple enough, i might be able to help. what do you need?
[02:17] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  I have a fresh install of ubuntu, trying to make a GW machine for my office (Everyone is down right now - long story) I have installed GSdhcpD in X and I am trying to config it so DHCP will work and hand out IP addresses to the rest of the network :)
[02:17] <jhonnyboy> nightrd3r: I've been right next to the router with full signal and still no luck. I've installed ndiswrapper with 8.10 and it worked flawlessly but when I upgraded to 9.10 it didn't seem to work out or I forgot how to configure it properly lol
[02:18] <DasEi> sCOTTo: GW is gateway ?
[02:18] <sCOTTo> yes
[02:18] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:18] <DasEi> sCOTTo: take a look at dnsmasq, perfect for it
[02:19] <sCOTTo> DasEIso I get rid of this and replace it right ?
[02:19] <DasEi> !info dnsmasq
[02:19] <Kalmi> sCOTTo: +1 for dnsmasq
[02:19] <naples_guy> DasEi, I did this, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras...
[02:19] <Red_HamsterX> dnsmasq's great for small environments.
[02:19] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  one more question - will this still be ok to use for a gateway, Firewall, possible file server internally, LAMP Server ?
[02:19] <DasEi> naples_guy: so there should be flash included, too
[02:20] <naples_guy> maybe java is missing
[02:20] <Red_HamsterX> sCOTTo, a gateway should be a control point and nothing more.
[02:20] <nightrid3r> sCOTTo: http://www.ebox-platform.com/
[02:20] <DasEi> sCOTTo: yes, but you will have to go step for step then..
[02:20] <Kalmi> sCOTTo, it is possible... but make sure that it is firewalled... so that your internal file server is not on the net
[02:21] <sCOTTo> I can let GO of the File Server
[02:21] <DasEi> sCOTTo: the gw machine, which hardware has it ? shall it then also still function as a workstation ?
[02:22] <sCOTTo> My main needs are the box to be 1) Firewall 2) Port Forwarding 3) NAT MAYBE? 4) dunno - but it wont really be a WORKSTATION - in fact I have X on there now - but I will prolly get rid of X ;)
[02:23] <nightrid3r> sCOTTo: http://www.ebox-platform.com/ will do the gateway thing and even more if you need it
[02:23] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  I have a Telstra Cable Mode. which plugs into 1 NIC, then I want to output that connection to a switch
[02:23] <naples_guy> how can i install javascript?
[02:23] <naples_guy> !javascript
[02:23] <sCOTTo> nightrid3r:  thanks
[02:23] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:23] <naples_guy> !java
[02:23] <nightrid3r> naples_guy: you don't it is already supported by your browser
[02:23] <madjoe> After booting Karmic I could see "Starting File Manager" tabs  appearing in my task bar. The numbers seem to be increasing and  increasing. The system is still responsive (somewhat) but it uses alot  of cpu!! Anyone?
[02:23] <DasEi> sCOTTo: depending on the workload, it's nice to just get a either a cheap dedicated machine or a VM to do this job,  depends on data-sensivity and exposure, of course
[02:24] <sCOTTo> nightrid3r:  I already have 1 x Elastix Voip Server completely configured hiding in my network right now.
[02:24] <hipitihop> so can someone tell me which config file do I remove to restore a user session to defaults
[02:24] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  i wont get too many people trying to hit me ;)
[02:24]  * nightrid3r scans sCOTTo's network :)
[02:25] <sCOTTo> :P
[02:25] <DasEi> sCOTTo: what specs is the GW-box  of ?
[02:25] <DasEi> hehe
[02:25] <naples_guy> im having trouble streaming video
[02:25] <arand> madjoe: that's a nautilus crash/respawn bug, haven't seen that in ages though...
[02:25] <hmw> i used a symlink to make /var/www point at /home/somefolder - my modrewrites are not working - might that be connected?
[02:25] <naples_guy> what do i need to check?
[02:25] <sCOTTo> yeah get a thrill - knock it out... then what? im totally open :P
[02:25] <jmg> hey all
[02:25] <user765> hey ppl
[02:25] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  how do I find out lol
[02:25] <sCOTTo> im on it ;)
[02:25] <jmg> is there a channel for mono issues
[02:25] <user765> please help
[02:25] <nightrid3r> naples_guy: look into icecast
[02:25] <user765> I have a major problem
[02:25] <madjoe> arand: how to get around this... I just upgraded my Karmic from Synaptic...
[02:25] <naples_guy> !icecast
[02:26] <user765> my ubuntu doesn't want to start
[02:26] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:26] <nightrid3r> naples_guy: www.icecast.org
[02:26] <user765> after update to  2.6.31-20-generic
[02:26] <jmg> !mono
[02:26] <Kalmi> nightrid3r, naples_guy: he is just a user ... i think...
[02:26] <DasEi> sCOTTo: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:26] <ct__> #join #clojure
[02:26] <DasEi> sCOTTo: free
[02:26] <DasEi> sCOTTo: sudo fdisk -l
[02:26] <sCOTTo> :P
[02:26] <naples_guy> ouch... no deb
[02:27] <Pici> jmg: I wouldn't ask medical questions on IRC..... but really, I suggest ##mono , I'm not sure if its active, but the topic suggests some alternatives.
[02:27] <Kalmi> user765, have you tried selecting an older kernel?
[02:27] <user765> yes
[02:27] <Kalmi> naples_guy, what video?
[02:27] <user765> freezes
[02:27] <DasEi> sCOTTo: for the basics ..
[02:27] <arand> madjoe: possibly comment #106 works: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/325973?comments=all
[02:27] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone. I'm a new ubuntu user need some help with my wireless connection. I'm lagging a bit when I get online. Almost all webpages seem to freeze. Can anyone please help?:
[02:27] <Kalmi> user765, at what point?
[02:27] <sekyourbox> Okay I trided plugging in the monitor directly, then ran an Xorg -configure, and saved it to the X11 dir, and when i reboot using the KVM it still gives me 800x600.  Is there any way to force the current config to stay when its correct?? please help
[02:27] <naples_guy> any video on break or youtube
[02:27] <LinuxGuy2009> jhonnyboy: In 9.10?
[02:28] <user765> Kalmi can I write on private because can't see here
[02:28] <jhonnyboy> LinuxGuy2009: Yep
[02:28] <nightrid3r> jhonnyboy: did you try to move your pc, might be just a bad spot your in
[02:28] <sCOTTo> Intel 1200MHz, 1024 Cache, 768 MB ram, 250 GB HDD
[02:28] <sCOTTo> DasEi:
[02:28] <LinuxGuy2009> jhonnyboy: When Karmic first came out I remeber having to specify a DNS server and it would really speed up FF. Might be your issue.
[02:28] <jhonnyboy> nightrid3r: It's a laptop, I've been all around the place and in diff networks and still no luck with the lag issue.
[02:29] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?        come on guys
[02:29] <nightrid3r> jhonnyboy: what wifi card
[02:29] <Pici> !flash | naples_guy
[02:29] <anderson> holla boys
[02:29] <jhonnyboy> LinuxGuy2009: I've tried that, I have hardcoded everything except the IP and still the same thing
[02:29] <DasEi> sCOTTo: ei to scotto, specs ?
[02:29] <jhonnyboy> nightrid3r: How can I find out? >.<
[02:29] <user765> Kalmi I writed to you on private
[02:29] <LinuxGuy2009> jhonnyboy: What wireless adapter do you have?
[02:30] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  Intel 1200MHz, 1024 Cache, 768 MB ram, 250 GB HDD
[02:30] <jhonnyboy> LinuxGuy2009: What would be the appopriate bash command for that?
[02:30] <LinuxGuy2009> jhonnyboy: sudo lshw -C lan
[02:30] <space_cowboy> can anyone tell me how to make my backspace button got to the previous page in firefox?
[02:30] <DasEi> sCOTTo: how many clients shall connect ?
[02:31] <magedragon25> I have a lexmark printer that most websites say is a good paperweight...if I installed the windows drivers in wine....could i get it to work?
[02:31] <ddrj> how do i find what vid card my motherboard is running? is there a command in bash for it ?
[02:31] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:31] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  LAN clients mostly OSX aprox 2 - 10 at any time
[02:31] <madjoe> arand: omg, thanks, dude.. you saved me from drowning here!
[02:31] <madjoe> arand++
[02:31] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: hplip installed?
[02:31] <hmw> skype just killed my sound. how to restart it?
[02:31] <jhonnyboy> LinuxGuy2009: Atheros Communications Inc. // AR2413 802.11bg NIC
[02:31] <nightrid3r> magedragon25: lexmark will not work under linux afaik
[02:32] <thiefy> hello kind sirs.
[02:32] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: I don't beleive so but it wasn't needed before ?
[02:32] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Try it and see.
[02:32] <ddrj> how do i find out what vid card i have ?
[02:32] <jhonnyboy> nightrid3r: Atheros Communications Inc. // AR2413 802.11bg NIC
[02:32] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: sudo lshw -C video
[02:32] <Jon-> ddrj: It will be somewhere in the output for lspci
[02:32] <ddrj> thanks LinuxGuy2009  checkin
[02:32] <Jon-> ddrj: or lshw
[02:32] <hmw> how can I restart the sound system, after it crashed?
[02:32] <patrickd_> Is there an _easy_ command line driven way to reset a lucid/jaunty installation based X server back to the default?
[02:32] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: hplip from terminal = no output
[02:33] <LinuxGuy2009>  Jon-: I know I typed it wrong. 1 sec
[02:33] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: Isn't that only for a printer hooked up to THIS computer? cups should handle a serpeate linux samba share correct?
[02:33] <thiefy> could anyone recommend a good book to learn more about how linux works. mainly how ubuntu works, as that's the distro i use and will continue to use. and it is ok if the book gets quite nerdy. i'm not a beginner at all, but want to know linux (ubuntu) as well as i know M$FT winders xpooh.
[02:33] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  did you get my last post ?
[02:33] <DasEi> sCOTTo: few solution comes in mind, problem is most of them as pre-configured are only free in a private situation, otherwise I'd think of 2 vm's , one for the outer zone+ external webservices, the other (or on that then the host) for dhcp, internal serving
[02:33] <hmw> thiefy: perhaps somewhat high level, but very rewarding: www.linuxfromscratch.org
 how do i find out what vid card i have ?      type lspci
[02:33] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: hplip yeah thats the right package name.
[02:34] <jhonnyboy> LinuxGuy2009: I'm using the default driver Ubuntu loaded for the wifi card. I've tried ndiswrapper but had no luck with it. I load the driver then my wifi doesn't even want to connect to the network.
[02:34] <nightrid3r> thiefy: http://www.linux-books.us/
[02:34] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: It does not appear in any of my repositories
[02:34] <dixond> holy hell. that is the worst mis-feature I've ever seen in a rescue cd/setup, *ever*. My Ubuntu install has probably just been hosed.
[02:34] <thiefy> hmw, thanks. though, i'm tinking of an ebook. is that one, or is it just a very useful website with lots of info?
[02:34] <ddrj> thanks thiefy
[02:34] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  I dotn need anything wild here - I am not worried about External Service really - I have a Rackspace Server in place running the full cPanel Solution (Only because my clients want cPanel)
[02:34] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Hmm unless they removed it from the 9.10 repos it should be there.
[02:34] <rgoytacaz> Hey Guys, is there a way to backup my current installation and configuration in ubuntu? Like a shadow!?
[02:34] <dixond> why on earth did it reboot when I exited the *second* console instance?
[02:34] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: nevermind, I just cannot invoke it from command line... I just did a sudo apt-get install hplip and it says it is latest version
[02:34] <thiefy> hmw, i got ubuntu unleashed, but that was fer 8.04 (i think,) it was great. i was thinking something along those lines.
[02:34] <LinuxGuy2009> rgoytacaz: I personally use Clonezilla live CD for backups.
[02:34] <dixond> the first original console session was still open and still in use!
[02:35] <Kalmi> DasEi, sCOTTo: Do you really thinks that he needs to overcomlicate it this much?
[02:35] <magedragon25> is there a channel for wine??
[02:35] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  I just need help configuring DHCPd right now to allow others on my netrwotk to get the internet flowing and let them work ;)
[02:35] <hmw> thiefy: it is an ebook, explaining you, what source file to download from where, how to compile it and finally make your very own linux out of it. Best learing curve possible, but not really very easy.
[02:35] <dixond> magedragon25: #wine ?
[02:35] <thiefy> ddr-, no prob...
[02:35] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: Like I said it was working fine with the identical setup it just stopped working now
[02:35] <magedragon25> keeps kicking me out
[02:35] <DasEi> Kalmi: I think, I'll figure out
[02:35]  * dixond considers filing a bug
[02:35] <sCOTTo> Kalmi:  in fact u are right - I dont need to complicate right now
[02:35] <nightrid3r> thiefy: http://www.linux-books.us/ free e-books for diffrent distro's
[02:35] <rgoytacaz> LinuxGuy2009: I can use that to create backups and restore them? or maybe start up a new box with all the working configurations?
[02:35] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Could be a bug in 9.10. They added lots of new stuff for prep for upcoming 10.04 LTS.
[02:36] <LinuxGuy2009> rgoytacaz: Yes backup and restore same as you asked.
[02:36]  * sCOTTo needs to enable dhcp server to allow his client machines accesss to the www
[02:36] <sCOTTo> ;)
[02:36] <patrickd_> Is there an _easy_ command line driven way to reset a lucid/jaunty installation based, X server back to the default? As it looks like I've managled my Xserver with different versions of nvidia drivers
[02:36] <hmw> my sound card crashed. how can I restart it? the Ubuntu updater could do that.
[02:36] <nightrid3r> sCOTTo: helps sometimes :D
[02:36] <thiefy> ddrj:  maybe typeing gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  will give you more info about what you want... ?
[02:36] <LinuxGuy2009> rgoytacaz: Kinda like an open source alternative to Norton Ghost.
[02:36] <dixond> so now my upgrade has been terminated half way through. legendary.
[02:36] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: I was using 9.10 before. Please read my comment. Nothing has changed. All I've really done on this system is remove older version of the kernel that weren't active, and on that system, just an apt-get update basically. Still sees the printer share, just can't print. *see error*  Please read my comment before trying to help, I have not recently changed distributions (not trying...
[02:36] <dixond> totally not impressed
[02:36] <Jon-> ...to be an asshole)
[02:36] <sCOTTo> nightrid3r:  ur 110% correct ;)
[02:36] <DasEi> sCOTTo: http://tinyurl.com/2g2dh8
[02:37] <space_cowboy> can anyone tell me how to make my backspace button go to the previous page in firefox? yeah its a habit i could do rid of but im kind of used to it now..
[02:37] <ddrj> thiefy, i found the vid card, it's an onboard integrated radeon 3000 but i can't find the linux drivers for it
[02:37] <thiefy> nightrid3r, thanks.
[02:37] <thiefy> ddrj:  that is an oxy-moron.
[02:37] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: You obviously have already fibured it out so Ill move on now.
[02:37] <lifestream> Hi, my pulse audio (i think), crahsed, there's no sound,  how do i fix it without rebooting ? tyvmia
[02:37] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: No..
[02:37] <thiefy> ddrj: you can't have an integrated video card from ati.
[02:37] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: Still can't print bud
[02:37] <lifestream> (thank you very much in advance )
[02:37] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  thanks ill have a look
[02:38] <DasEi> sCOTTo: don't want to put brakes on you, I'd first install basic requirements, then harden system, then setup firewall, then get the idea(s) of needed segments
[02:38] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?        come on guys
[02:38] <ddrj> thiefy, can i pm u real quick ?
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> space_cowboy, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[02:38] <rgoytacaz> LinuxGuy2009: Thx!
[02:38] <nightrid3r> thiefy: and on a laptop??
[02:38] <space_cowboy> oh and as an aside...ubuntu kicks ass, as well as the support here. i cant wait to try the htpc version..
[02:38] <LinuxGuy2009> rgoytacaz: welcome
[02:38] <thiefy> ddrj:  did you try seeing if system - administration - hardware drivers      finds anything good for you/
[02:38] <lifestream> I did sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart  but it told me that  * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions, it didnt work
[02:38] <space_cowboy> it kicks the shit outta suse i tried years ago
[02:38] <ddrj> thiefy, ahh nope, checking
[02:38] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  totally - my first port of call right now though is to give these guys Internet connection - we have clients on their way in - this is SERIOUSLY needed ;)
[02:39] <hmw> how can I restart SOUND? my card crashed, commencing an update did reset the sound system somehow, but skype crashed it again. What was the updater doing? restarting alsa-utils and pulseaudio didnth help
[02:39] <ddrj> thiefy, awesome, it's downloading the drivers :D
[02:39] <DasEi> sCOTTo: right, let's go then
[02:39] <sCOTTo> yup yup
[02:39] <space_cowboy> thanks kindof
[02:39] <thiefy> a random question:   if you have a old crappy laptop and want to run linux mint. which would be faster (meaning the system runs faster / better, fluxbox, or xfce, or?
[02:39] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: pulseaudio being buggy for you?
[02:39] <thiefy> space_cowboy, yes, ubuntu does kick asss.
[02:39] <harisund> When I launch Empathy by clicking on the notification icon (top right) why does it open unfocussed, in the background?
[02:39]  * sCOTTo salutes DasEi saying "Ready for my orders Captain"
[02:39] <sCOTTo> hehe
[02:39] <thiefy> thank you mark shuttleworth.
[02:39] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help? (please note: the issue may be with the server computer, which is also Ubuntu 9.10, as the XP computer can also not print from it right now. I...
[02:39] <Jon-> ...haven't purposely changed any settings.)
[02:39] <dixond> pulseaudio is terrible
[02:40] <sCOTTo> Mark Shuttleworth - I went to SCHOOL with a guy with that name...
[02:40] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: yeah... skype kills it somehow... i dont know how to reset it. It is possible, obviously, the updater just did it.
[02:40] <Kalmi> sCOTTo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713874
[02:40] <LinuxGuy2009> thiefy: This isnt the mint IRC chat.
[02:40] <sCOTTo> hey
[02:40] <sCOTTo> brb - I have a client
[02:40] <dixond> I have never, ever, even on ancient hardware with slackware, ever had stuttering sound in Linux until with Ubuntu + Pulseaudio on modern hardware
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> space_cowboy, did that link help you?
[02:40] <thiefy> sCOTTo, mark shuttlework is the billionaire behind ubuntu. and why ubuntu exists.
[02:41] <xxiao_> gspca got two webcameras running in parallel under lenny, nice
[02:41] <xxiao_> uvcvideo could not though
[02:41] <thiefy> lenny? really? nice.
[02:41] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: If updates dont fix it then you can choose to remove the pulseaudio package and use a substitute volume mixer like bnome-alsamixer. pulse is buggy on some hardware. ALSA is pretty good.
[02:41] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help? (please note: the issue may be with the server computer, which is also Ubuntu 9.10, as the XP computer can also not print from it right now. I...
[02:41] <Jon-> ...haven't purposely changed any settings.)
[02:41] <space_cowboy> im sure it will, need to comprehend what im reading  :)
[02:41] <thiefy> Jon-, can you phyically check the printer? make sure it's ok.?
[02:42] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: substitute? do i need rto remove something first?
[02:42] <xxiao_> how can I pull 2.6.32 under lenny and give it a try (uvcvideo)? did apt-get search 2.6.32 and found nothing
[02:42] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: oh. nevermind, sorry
[02:42] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009, do you feel pulse audio should be del from your system? is there any use for pulse audio?
[02:42] <xxiao_> reading somewhere saying lenny has a 2.6.32 for testing too
[02:43] <Jon-> thiefy: Yep it's just downstairs. Should I try printing from the server box?
[02:43] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: i just want to reset it without rebooting
[02:43] <Jon-> thiefy: Be right back
[02:43] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  I will be back soon - I have a client here - I MUST attend ;)
[02:43] <LinuxGuy2009> thiefy: pulseaudio on 8.04 and 9.04 I havent had issues with myself. 9.10 yes.
[02:43] <sCOTTo> thanks
[02:43] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: which is possible, since instaling some updates for the sound system just DID it
[02:43] <thiefy> Jon-, try printing from that computer that it's hooked up to first. see if taht even works.
[02:43] <xxiao_> LinuxGuy2009: ahaa another ubuntu spy here :)
[02:43] <DasEi> sCOTTo: np, either dnsmasq or dhcp3-server is pretty easy to follow, gtg soon, too
[02:44] <LinuxGuy2009> xxiao_: spy? meaning?
[02:44] <Jon-> thiefy: Yes that still works.
[02:44] <adante> hi, installed ruby1.9.1,but htere is no ruby executable only a ruby1.9.1 exe - is it safe to just symlink ruby to ruby1.9.1 or is there another package i'm supposed ot install?
[02:44] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009,  ahh, all i've seen is bad things about pulse audio. so i disable (not del it) whever ever i have the option. and use alsa.
[02:44] <magn3ts> I updated my kernel and now all of my sound devices are gone ?????
[02:44] <hmw> After my sound crashed, I let the updater install some (sound related) updates. It was able to restore the sound. What must I do, to reset/reload the sound system?
[02:44] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009,  wondered if i should remove pulse totally.
[02:45] <sekyourbox> where is the video resolution and settings saved after it is "auto-detected"?
[02:45] <LinuxGuy2009> thiefy: Same difference.
[02:45] <xxiao_> i was asking a 8.04 question here and abrotman was pissed off a bit
[02:45] <Jon-> thiefy: What is the next step?
[02:45] <FremenBlue> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8979738#post8979738
[02:45] <FremenBlue> is it normal to have 2 monitors on a laptop?
[02:45] <LinuxGuy2009> xxiao_: Nothing wrong with 8.04 it is the current LTS release and is very well tested and stable. Nothing wrong with using that.
[02:45] <thiefy> sekyourbox, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <hmw> FremenBlue: yes... usually internal Display and external VGA connector
[02:45] <xxiao_> ic
[02:46] <DasEi> sekyourbox: nowhere but in ram, if upstart was succesfull, els /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:46] <FremenBlue> kk
[02:46] <thiefy> sekyourbox, be careful. back it up first befoe you play with the file.
[02:46] <adante> is there a list of package states somewhere?
[02:46] <DasEi> lese*
[02:46] <hmw> !sound > hmw
[02:46] <FremenBlue> well why does the 2nd monitor sometimes turn on and add a extra 200 pixels to my screen?
[02:46] <FremenBlue> or maybe a extra 500
[02:46] <thiefy> FremenBlue, yes, i do it at work and it works great. (and at home, but with a desktop) - i have an ext. monitor.
[02:46] <sekyourbox> Sorry, I meant ubuntu 910
[02:46] <ddrj> thiefy, thanks !!!!! installed drivers and xbmc runs BEAUTIFULLY
[02:47] <FremenBlue> i only have 1 monitor
[02:47] <thiefy> FremenBlue, can you explain further what you mean? i'm confused.
[02:47] <sekyourbox> There is no Xorg.conf, generated in 910 and I tried to make one with xorg -configure, but it doesn't save the exact settings
[02:47] <FremenBlue> im asking why sometimes ubuntu turns on a secondary monitor that only it knows about; thereby increasing my desktop by a full half-screen length, and opening new program windows in that section; which is off to the right of my laptop desktop
[02:47] <space_cowboy> kindofabuzz: do i enter the commands to alter what backspace does in a command prompt or? sorry, very new to nix
[02:48] <thiefy> sekyourbox, x not X
[02:48] <Jon-> thiefy: Sorry to bug you but I have been trying to get help here for a long time. The printer does work on that computer, it is running Ubnutu 9.10, as is this computer.
[02:48] <thiefy> sekyourbox, big difference.
[02:48] <sekyourbox> theify, yes, i used X
[02:48] <LinuxGuy2009> FremenBlue: Maybe misrecognising the max screen resolution.
[02:48] <FremenBlue> possible; the xorg.conf shows errors all the way to 1880 i think
[02:48] <thiefy> FremenBlue, i am no expert, but i would say your xorg.conf needs some love. it is causing this.
[02:48] <kindofabuzz> space_cowboy, no, type in about:config into the url bar in firfox and then that string into the search box and it will come up, then change the value
[02:48] <FremenBlue> which i dont have
[02:48] <LinuxGuy2009> FremenBlue: Try setting it manually
[02:49] <FremenBlue> so i should manually reset the MAX res and the problem is fixed; probably?
[02:49] <thiefy> sekyourbox, linux cares about CAPITALS. hahaha
[02:49] <adante> hi where can i find information about package states
[02:49] <FremenBlue> !tutorial
[02:49] <FremenBlue> !xorg
[02:49] <Jon-> cups recently giving error in error log: "E [15/Mar/2010:03:03:11 -0500] Filter "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip" for printer "HP-Deskjet-f4100" not available: No such file or directory"  Printer used to work fine, now will not print. Help?
[02:49] <thiefy> FremenBlue, back up your xorg.conf first. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:50] <sekyourbox> FremenBlue, this is not what im asking
[02:50] <thiefy> FremenBlue, whenever you screw with stuff like that, back it up frist.
[02:50] <magedragon25> Jon: go to #cups
[02:50] <thiefy> adante, you q is confusing.
[02:50] <thiefy> your
[02:50] <FremenBlue> i dont have a xorg.conf
[02:50] <FremenBlue> it doesnt exist
[02:50] <thiefy> FremenBlue, yes you do.
[02:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Does that folder exist and do you have permissions? "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip"?
[02:50] <FremenBlue> trust; its not there
[02:50] <FremenBlue> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not there
[02:51] <thiefy> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <sekyourbox> My question has nothing to do with Xorg.. the question is as follows.  Where is the configuration file for the video "auto-detect" in ubuntu 910
[02:51] <FremenBlue> nope
[02:51] <FremenBlue> impossible
[02:51] <thiefy> FremenBlue,
[02:51] <FremenBlue> want a SS of my X11 directory?
[02:51] <adante> thiefy: ok, when i aptitude search x you get a list of packages with a letter next to them where can i get a list that explains the letters?
[02:51] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: The foomatic-rip-hplip folder does not exist.
[02:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: try removing and reinstalling the hplip package possibly?
[02:52] <thiefy> FremenBlue, heheh, i'm no expert, but i think if that file is not there, either you are not running ubuntu, or your monitor is not connected to a video card.
[02:52] <FremenBlue> cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:52] <kindofabuzz> FremenBlue, using nvidia? do a sudo nvidia-xconfig which will make a xorg.conf, then you can just sudo nvidia-settings
[02:52] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: ... ok
[02:52] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: Should I purge as well?
[02:52] <FremenBlue> i read ubuntu karmic doesnt use x
[02:52] <FremenBlue> could be wrong though
[02:52] <FremenBlue> xorg.conf anyway
[02:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Thats just for user settings. Sure.
[02:53] <thiefy> FremenBlue, when linux boots, i think ( i may be wrong ) that xorg.conf runs and detects stuff. but i may be wrong....
[02:53] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: Running sudo apt-get autoremove hplip && sudo apt-get install hplip now
[02:53] <thiefy> FremenBlue, i'm on karmic and i use x
[02:53] <thiefy> hmmm
[02:53] <space_cowboy> kindofabuzz: yup that worked, thanks bro/broette
[02:53] <FremenBlue> try google xorg.conf and karmic you'll c what i mean
[02:54] <kindofabuzz> space_cowboy, np, you a Spreadhead by any chance?
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> FremenBlue, i have an xorg.conf in Karmic
[02:55] <thiefy> FremenBlue, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <thiefy> FremenBlue, before you do, can someone confirm that is a good idea?
[02:55] <thiefy> FremenBlue, before you do, can someone confirm that is a good idea?
[02:55] <space_cowboy> a bit, into all tunes really, but the brew stays the same :)
[02:55] <carignanboy> whats that CLI app that calculates the percentage of Free Software on a computer?
[02:56] <LinuxGuy2009> carignanboy: What?
[02:56] <nightrid3r> thiefy: the command is not complete
[02:56] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: You've got to be *censored* kididng me... That worked. That makes no sense.
[02:56] <Anirban> is it possible to downgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 to 8
[02:56] <Lovecraft> hi all I had a super quick question, two parter
[02:56] <carignanboy> LinuxGuy2009, theres a commandline application that identifies proprietary software on a linux computer
[02:57] <thiefy> nightrid3r, do you know the rest? heheh, i don't...
[02:57] <Anirban> is it possible to downgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 to 8.04 LTS ??
[02:57] <thiefy> Anirban, i wouldn't.
[02:57] <FremenBlue> ..
[02:57] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: I had made NO changes to my config, and heck, I didn't even purge. Something went screwy completely without my interaction.. *sighs* good old Ubuntu. Problem solved.
[02:57] <FremenBlue> so if the command is incomplete
[02:57] <FremenBlue> ?
[02:57] <FremenBlue> what is the complete command?
[02:57] <nightrid3r> looking
[02:57] <LinuxGuy2009> carignanboy: Only reason you would have proprietary software on your machine is if you put it there. So you would know anyways.
[02:57] <Guest12516> Is the Nvidia GeForce 9400gt compatible with Linux?
[02:57] <Anirban> thiefy: but i need it
[02:57] <Guest12516> *Ubuntu I mean
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> FremenBlue, do you have nvidia or ati?
[02:57] <Jon-> Before I go: is there a good full-drive image program for Ubuntu? Specifically looking to backup my settings, installed packages, etc..
[02:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest12516:  Should be.
[02:58] <carignanboy> LinuxGuy2009, yeah, but it counts drivers and kernel modules and everything
[02:58] <Guest12516> I'm trying to select a good video card and I needed help. Does anyone have the time to give me some advice?
[02:58] <thiefy> lovecraft: go nuts mister.
[02:58] <LinuxGuy2009> carignanboy: No idea and really could care less about that. Are you bored or something?
[02:58] <FremenBlue> neither
[02:58] <FremenBlue> i use mobile gm965
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> oh
[02:58] <Jon-> Guest12516: Good for gaming or good for Linux?
[02:59] <space_cowboy> its amazing how....free.....nix makes you feel...i guess this is one of the many ways of stickin it to the man....fu bill
[02:59] <Guest12516> Overall good for both, honestly. I have a budget for about ohhhhh 300$ USD, that's it.
[02:59] <FremenBlue> i found a forum post talking about intel driver supports virtual size
[02:59] <carignanboy> LinuxGuy2009, haha no...I ran that app once, but can't remember its name for the life of me
[02:59] <Guest12516> So I need a good option. The Brookedale Intel video card really stinks and I'm out to replace it
[02:59] <FremenBlue> so thats probably it
[02:59] <Jon-> space_cowboy: Less bashing please. Ops don't let you bash Ubuntu in here, I won't sit here listening to Microsoft bashing without saying something.
[02:59] <thiefy> FremenBlue, maybe look here -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760   hope it can help...
[02:59] <FremenBlue> 4 some reason the virtual size activates; the trigger i havent figured out yet
[03:00] <ddrj> to install google chrome, do i just do sudo-apt get install chrome ?
[03:00] <ddrj> or do i need to add repos and get key etc ?
[03:00] <carignanboy> ddrj, you probably need to add the repo
[03:00] <thiefy> Guest12516, i would stick with nvidia.
[03:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: I dont like Windows either.
[03:00] <space_cowboy> dont get me wrong, i think 7 is strong, but its just amazing to me how efficient ubuntu is...and the kicker is its free
[03:00] <ddrj> carignanboy, ahh alright thanks
[03:00] <thiefy> Guest12516, and i would not use sli.
[03:00] <space_cowboy> but i apologize if taken differently
[03:00] <Jon-> Guest12516: I have Radeon 5850 and it's great. See: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102857
[03:01] <FremenBlue> my screen is fine 75% of the time
[03:01] <Jon-> Guest12516: Linux supports NVIDIA better though
[03:01] <FremenBlue> i dont want to screw with it 2 much
[03:01] <Red_HamsterX> Nvidia supports Linux better*
[03:01] <thiefy> ddrj, no, just go to google and type in 'chrome'
[03:01] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: I use Windows. If you read my comment I was saying don't bash Microsoft while not allowing Ubuntu bashing. The ops might not care but it's unfair, biased, and I will say something. *like I did*
[03:01] <thiefy> ddrj, and get it from there.
[03:01] <Jon-> LinuxGuy2009: I dual boot win7 and karmic
[03:01] <ddrj> hah, thanks again thiefy  :D
[03:01] <FremenBlue> fixing it is as easy as opening display and turning off the 2nd monitor, i just thought maybe i could find a better fix than a bandaid
[03:02] <LinuxGuy2009> Jon-: Nobody cares what you think. Trust me. Move on with life.
[03:02] <thiefy> Jon-, we all do...
[03:02] <thiefy> ahaha
[03:02] <Jon-> Guest12516: That card is jsut a little above your price range but the performance is incredible, it is worth every penny.
[03:02] <thiefy> Jon-, i support your 'bash'
[03:02] <thiefy> Jon-, but LinuxGuy2009 is right....
[03:02] <thiefy> hahha
[03:03] <harisund> !wine > harisund
[03:04] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  back
[03:04] <thiefy> sCOTTo, front
[03:05] <morpheus_017> sCOTTo: left?
[03:05] <thiefy>  if you have a old crappy laptop and want to run linux mint. which would be faster (meaning the system runs faster / better, fluxbox, or xfce, or?
[03:05] <sCOTTo> geeks :P
[03:05] <thiefy> heh
[03:05] <thiefy> true....
[03:05] <ddrj> hmm apparently u can't alt+tab to switch in between windows ... unless there's another input stroke? thiefy ? :D
[03:06] <thiefy> ddr-, you can alt-tab if you run compiz
[03:06] <ddrj> ah
[03:06] <LinuxGuy2009> thiefy: Im sure running just a straight window manager is lighter.
[03:06] <nn-olpc> ddrj some times super+alt+tab works in compiz
[03:06] <life_support> I'm a believer again but why is that problem in ubuntu
[03:06] <morpheus_017> thiefy: IceWM maybe?
[03:06] <ddrj> yeah hmm well i guess i'll dl compiz then
[03:07] <thiefy> ddr-, type gksudo synaptic      and then when it launches, search for 'compiz'   and install it.  - if you have a video card. if not, you prob shouldn't.
[03:07] <LinuxGuy2009>  life_support: What problem are you having?
[03:07] <thiefy> life_support, are you dying?
[03:07] <life_support> already solved
[03:07] <thiefy> life_support, do you need an ambulance?
[03:07] <Jon-> thiefy: fluxbox will be faster than anything. From there up: trading performance for flash.
[03:07] <life_support> not yet
[03:07] <thiefy> life_support, by your nick, i am worried.
[03:07] <life_support> LinuxGuy2009,
[03:07] <life_support> -20 update
[03:07] <life_support> for ubuntu
[03:07] <FremenBlue> crunchbang linux = fastest linux for crappy laptops
[03:08] <FremenBlue> except maybe DSL
[03:08] <thiefy> Jon-, thanks, that's the one i inst. and thanks for letting me know i chose the right one...
[03:08] <FremenBlue> =D
[03:08] <life_support> but when I started -17 like fix it itself
[03:08] <thiefy> Jon-,  do oyou know what about it makes it faster / better than vanilla ubuntu?
[03:08] <life_support> what is not surprising me for linux
[03:08] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: I cant understand fragmented thoughts. English?
[03:08] <thiefy> Jon-, i understand it's the gdm, but - further thoughts?
[03:08] <ddrj> thiefy, thanks i'll check up compiz then
[03:09] <thiefy> ddrj, just make sure your vid card won't get mad at you. meaning, it gets fancy (sometimes) and it needs to be able to handle it.
[03:09] <Jon-> thiefy: I just know on my moms old computer it rocks compared to GNOME, with xfce somewhere in between the two. It's nothing but the desktop manager, yes. I suppose less data caching of models? Older video cards appreciate less textures? More optimized for older systems? I don't know what exactly, but it runs less RAM/CPU than GNOME and things move around nicer.
[03:09] <nn-olpc> Jon-: actully fluxbox is fairly slow compared with openbox ... I use openbox on the olpc because its the fastest light working windows manager I have found.
[03:10] <Jon-> nn-olpc: Never tried openbox, but fluxbox preformed fine on 512MB of very old very slow SDRAM and an ancient on-board video card. I suppose if you had worse you could go less.
[03:10] <FremenBlue> jon- crunchbang linux
[03:10] <space_cowboy> how might i discover and share files with win boxes with sharing allowed on my network?
[03:10] <FremenBlue> jon- runs openbox and booted in like 10 seconds on a 512 mb laptop
[03:11] <thiefy> FremenBlue, crunch bang got it's name, cause it goes, crunch / bang a lot. i have no need in my life for that.
[03:11] <FremenBlue> thiefy :)
[03:11] <Jon-> FremenBlue: I'll have to check it out, thanks.
[03:12] <thiefy> nn-olpc, i was looking for a linuxmint ver. of ubuntu ... so he directed his answer towards that
[03:12] <nn-olpc> Jon-: the olpc is an amd genode .. about the speed of a pentium 2 at best. 256MB ram ... no swap .. flash 1GB memory card as hard disk ... .. its a minimal system at best
[03:12] <life_support> LinuxGuy2009, I updated ubuntu to 2.6.30-20-generic and started to show me only GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4
[03:12] <Jon-> FremenBlue: At the end of the day, it's my mom. I'd rather see her with a more featured window manager and a bit less speed than optimized and stripped down crap. And for me, my laptop rocks GNOME without issue ;D
[03:12] <life_support> I tryed to run -19 again and it freezes
[03:12] <thiefy> space_cowboy, seriously, right click on the dir you want to share, and go to properties and then the sharing tab. hit, share this folder, and select allow guests and that is it.
[03:12] <life_support> so I entered here from another PC
[03:13] <life_support> and user give me the idea to use older
[03:13] <life_support> I runed -17
[03:13] <thiefy> space_cowboy, and then, on the guest computer, just go to (in windows) \\nameofspacecowboyscomputer\nameofshare
[03:13] <life_support> and seems the older version to repair the -20
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: Were you manually adding/removing kernels? Or did it upgrade in update manager?
[03:13] <life_support> upgrade manger
[03:13] <life_support> I'm not so advanced yet
[03:13] <penguinv> dasei if you are still here I have done some things...
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: 9.10?
[03:14] <life_support> yep
[03:14] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: So grub just hangs?
[03:14] <thiefy> space_cowboy, ubuntu makes it soo easy. and if that's hard. then throw your computer out your window and buy an abacus. hahahahha
[03:15] <blindclick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeI8KR1L83o - please vote 5 stars, I need to goto CEIC conference, please help a fellow linux user out? :?
[03:15] <life_support> LinuxGuy2009, how to explain it I reboot my machine
[03:15] <thiefy> anyone here really smart and wise and a vetern linux user?
[03:15] <thiefy> is this a good idea  --- sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:15] <thiefy> if you want to swtich
[03:15] <life_support> and show me GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4
[03:15] <thiefy> ?
[03:15] <pauloricardoas> lihow do I open port 6667?
[03:16] <pauloricardoas> how do I open port 6667?
[03:16] <pauloricardoas> sorry*
[03:16] <thiefy> pauloricardoas, i believe the server you are connect to right now is on port 6667
[03:16] <life_support> and to choose normal vers. or recovery
[03:16] <thiefy> and yes, it is open. right now.
[03:16] <harisund> Anyone know how to make Empathy raise above other windows when I click on the notification icon (top right)? Why do I have to go through 2 clicks one on the top right and one on the bottom of the screen to get Empathy to show up?
[03:16] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: Sounds like a bad update maybe. Or corrupt grub or something. Try repairing grub. Google has good tutorials its a common question.
[03:16] <sCOTTo> DasEi:  You here ?
[03:17] <thiefy> pauloricardoas,  you do not need to open it to connect to irc. your irc client will 'open it' when it needs it.
[03:17] <life_support> LinuxGuy2009,
[03:17] <life_support> that is what I said
[03:17] <j3rg> hey one here ever ordered from newegg
[03:17] <thiefy> sCOTTo, he's over there --->
[03:17] <j3rg> ?
[03:17] <sCOTTo> lol
[03:17] <life_support> after I runned 2.6.30-17-generic
[03:17] <thiefy> j3rg, yes.
[03:17] <thiefy> j3rg, they are great.
[03:17] <life_support> it seems to repair itself
[03:17] <pauloricardoas> how do I open port 6667 on my ubuntu
[03:17] <j3rg> I had this issue
[03:17] <thiefy> pauloricardoas, read above a few lines.
[03:17] <Zerro> router
[03:17] <life_support> because now I use 2.6.30-20-generic
[03:17] <space_cowboy> thiefy....suck one. you do nothing for the cause of nix
[03:17] <life_support> without problem
[03:17] <ranindra> any from indonesian...?
[03:18] <thiefy> space_cowboy, why do you say that?
[03:18] <penguinv> dasei or whomever would be willing to help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396504/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396505/
[03:18] <j3rg> that my billing address is the same as my shipping but when i check the check box
[03:18] <guest1> does anyone know why theres nobody in the #moblin channel?
[03:18] <LinuxGuy2009> life_support: Please dont use [Enter| as punctuation.
[03:18] <j3rg> my personal data erases on lostfocus
[03:18] <Gambit> Hello. I was wondering if I could get some help.
[03:18] <ranindra> Ada yang berasal dari Indonesia???
[03:18] <j3rg> of the textbox
[03:18] <Zerro> pauloricardoas: port forwarding
[03:18] <ranindra> Hi guys...,
[03:18] <ranindra> :)
[03:18] <harisund> And Empathy crashes when I try Google Talk video .. j
[03:18] <life_support> LinuxGuy2009, sorry I'll try to keep that in mind
[03:18] <thiefy> space_cowboy, if you have an issue, please private message me and state your case.
[03:18] <thiefy> space_cowboy, if you have an issue, please private message me and state your case.
[03:19] <guest1> does anyone know why the #moblin channel isn't responding?
[03:19] <hanasaki> how do you enable xdmcp in karmac?
[03:19] <LinuxGuy2009> guest1: Maybe cause your not using a registered name?
[03:19] <guest1> linuxguy2009: however i am conversing with you, am i not?
[03:20] <LinuxGuy2009> guest1: Is guest1 your registered name?
[03:20] <Guest6309> anyone know of a program I can use to convert .wav to .mp3?
[03:20] <guest1> linuxguy2009: no it is a guest acc
[03:20] <Pici> guest1: Most channels aren't as active as this one is, just be patient
[03:20] <Guest6309> something that will sound good and not lose quality in conversion?
[03:21] <Pici> LinuxGuy2009: That channel is not quieting unregistered users.
[03:21] <LinuxGuy2009> guest1: Ok register a name and try again.
[03:21] <Guest6309> Im running 9.10
[03:21] <guest1> linuxguy2009: ok
[03:21] <thiefy> Pici, / guest1  - i agree with pici.
[03:21] <ranindra> im running too., koala..
[03:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah cause registering is a bad idea. Good call.
[03:22] <thiefy> space_cowboy, can i give you a big huge irc hug or something?
[03:22] <Spaztic_One> maco, are you there?
[03:22] <sCOTTo> anyone here know much about Telstra Cable Modems in Australia ?
[03:23] <GhostWolf> hi all, i am wondering if anyone can tell me how to upgrade amsn? i know theres a newer version than ubuntu has on thier software sources and i have the tar.gz file for amsn 0.98.3. but don't know how to install it can anyone please help me?
[03:23] <LinuxGuy2009> thiefy: Ok theives and cowboys dont hug. Come on. hehe
[03:23] <space> nah just checking your almighty attitude would be fine.
[03:24] <thiefy> guest1 was in a netsplit that was all.....
[03:24] <LinuxGuy2009> GhostWolf: extract it. ./configure, make, make install ?
[03:24] <GhostWolf> LinuxGuy2009, for amsn?
[03:24] <LinuxGuy2009> GhostWolf: Or look around for a backport.
[03:24] <thiefy> space, what did i say that offended you? i would like to know cause i am no linux expert. i know some things, but far less that most people in here.
[03:25] <GhostWolf> i don't know what a backport is LinuxGuy2009
[03:25] <GhostWolf> im not a new user but somethings on linux i am still new how to do
[03:25] <thiefy> GhostWolf, i had a girlfriend taht liked a good backport...
[03:25] <life_support> ppl thank you all for the help I wish you a nice night and a bright morning
[03:25] <LinuxGuy2009> GhostWolf: Its when source package from a newer release of your distro is compiled for the libraries that are on your older version.
[03:25] <guest1> helo
[03:26] <guest1> does anyone know how to operate the sudo commands for moblin? apparently the moblin channel doesnt work
[03:26] <GhostWolf> LinuxGuy2009, so i just do ./configure and make install in the file after i extract the tar.gz file?
[03:26] <GhostWolf> i mean folder not file sorry LinuxGuy2009
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2009> GhostWolf: The debian new maintainers guide is great for someone new at building packages.
[03:27] <thiefy> guest1, hey mate.   then you just have to wait till it's out of it's split. or type /server wolfe.freenode.net   and join the server that i am on - that is connected to freenode - and you will see what i see.
[03:27] <guest1> apparently "sudo apt-get" is not recognized and neither is "sudo aptitude"
[03:27] <Spaztic_One> Is anyone here good at resolving sound issues? I've gone through guides and such, and I think that just complicated my issues.
[03:27] <nixjr_> i have an external hdd with both usb and esata connections, i have to connect both at once when using esata (usb for power), how can i tell if ubuntu is using the usb or esata for data?
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2009> GhostWolf: It covers all that. But look around for an already built backport first.
[03:27] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys. Running Karmic. Got that little "Applications, Places, System" bar in my panel. Does anyone know where the image file for the Gnome foot is stored? I'd like to change it.
[03:27] <guest1> ahha
[03:27] <thiefy> guest1, all that i s happening is you are connecting to freenode, but on a server tht has split from the main trunk. so just choose a diff freenode server.
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: clicking, pops, dropouts, static?
[03:28] <guest1> how is that done
[03:28] <thiefy> nixjr_, no. only connect one of those cables.
[03:28] <thiefy> nixjr_, both will give power - if needed.
[03:28] <Spaztic_One> Currently, no sound. It was working the other day, and I logged out, and when I logged back in, there was no sound.
[03:28] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Doesnt eSATA provide the power?
[03:28] <thiefy> nixjr_ esata is much faster.
[03:28] <space> the throw my computer out the window comment...this is the support channel...yeah id like to know more, but the basics are first. and when you have complications with that you go where? the support channel
[03:29] <nixjr_> thiefy, my drive dosnt not have a seperate power connection, and esata dosnt provide power, my manual says to connect usb and esata at same time
[03:29] <guest1> ok
[03:29] <thiefy> nixjr_, sorry, i was wrong. you would need / want power for esata
[03:29] <thiefy> nixjr_, and. it would be wise to connect power whichever method you chose anyways.
[03:29] <thiefy> usb doesn't provide very much power.
[03:29] <djuber> Spaztic, is this a laptop?
[03:29] <Spaztic_One> Desktop
[03:29] <thiefy> if it's a 7200 rpm drive, then you''ll want power connected.
[03:29] <nixjr_> thiefy, its a laptop sized drive 5400 and dosnt have a seperate power connector
[03:30] <thiefy> guest1. that make sense?
[03:30] <guest1> thiefy: to me yes, to the messanger no
[03:30] <guest1> *messenger
[03:30] <markdymek_> how can i find the linux device name?
[03:30] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Does the drive have a AC adapter or is it bus powered?
[03:30] <markdymek_> for my flash drive
[03:30] <markdymek_> usb
[03:30] <thiefy> nixjr_, does esata work without power, i'm sorrry, mine can't do it without power... but i have a ext. enclosure. so i might be inncorrect.
[03:30] <guest1> thiefy: the command you suggested is not recognizable
[03:30] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, bus powered
[03:31] <thiefy> guest1 you are using which irc client to connect to us?
[03:31] <nixjr_> thiefy, the usb provides the power when your using esata
[03:31] <guest1> thiefy: ummmm i believe guest@irc.freenode.net
[03:31] <djuber> When you look at the output device in Sound Preferences, is it set to something other than your sound card (maybe Internal Audio is what your card is found as)
[03:31] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Have you tested USB and eSATA seperately and seen which works and which doesnt?
[03:31] <thiefy> -guest1- VERSION Purple IRC
[03:31] <thiefy> what is taht?
[03:31] <markdymek_> how do i find out the name of my usb flash drive?
[03:31] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[03:31] <Pici> thiefy: pidgin
[03:31] <gardar> yay for netsplit
[03:31] <thiefy> guest1. did you see that netsplit?   that is what just happened to you a few mins ago.
[03:31] <thiefy> heheh
[03:32] <blindclick> wtf
[03:32] <space> welp gotta love that
[03:32] <markdymek_> how do i find the name of my usb flash drive?
[03:32] <space> welcome to irc
[03:32] <thiefy> guest1 and tha is why #moblin didn't work for you.
[03:32] <guest1> i see
[03:32] <thiefy> Mark_vH, type blkid
[03:32] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, usb on its own works fine, with both the esata and usb plugged in, how can i tell if its using the usb or esata for data?
[03:32] <LinuxGuy2009> markdymek_:  Name? You mean the /dev/sda1 etc?
[03:32] <markdymek_> yes linuxguy
[03:32] <guest1> thiefy: so metaphorically speaking i am on the other side of the moon on #moblin
[03:33] <djuber> markdymek, would mount work?
[03:33] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Well chances are both work. But your issue is a lack of power Im guessing. Thats why your requiring both. Does the manual say you need both?
[03:33] <markdymek_> its already mounted
[03:33] <markdymek_> im trying to use foremost
[03:33] <thiefy> Mark_vH, type mount
[03:33] <markdymek_> so i need the name
[03:33] <markdymek_> or whatever its called
[03:34] <LinuxGuy2009> markdymek_: If you like GUI apps then gparted will show all /dev names in a drop down list for easy checking.
[03:34] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, yeah manual says i need both if i want to use esata, usb can be done on its own, its just with both plugged in, i have no way of telling if tis using the esata or not
[03:34] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Currently, no sound. It was working the other day, and I logged out, and when I logged back in, there was no sound. djuber: Desktop.
[03:34] <thiefy> markdymek_, what do you mean by, how do i find the 'name' of it?
[03:34] <thiefy> nixjr_, i find that odd.
[03:35] <jrtayloriv> I'm getting the following error --  http://pastebin.ca/1843212 -- when running my Perl script. I just installed the Parse::MediaWikiDump module through synaptic -- do I need to use CPAN instead? What does this error mean?
[03:35] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Sounds like eSATA for data and USB for power.
[03:35] <djuber> Spaztic, when you look at sound preferences, the output device is selecting your sound card?
[03:35] <Spaztic_One> djuber: Yes.
[03:35] <markdymek_> anyone here know how to use foremost can give me a walkthrough
[03:35] <mkquist> anyone know if one of logs shows keystrokes?
[03:36] <markdymek_> need to recover 2 doc files
[03:36] <markdymek_> off of a usb key
[03:36] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Or your eSATA isnt doing squat. Not sure.
[03:36] <jrtayloriv> I'm pretty sure that something is off with synaptic installing the module without checking compatibility properly.
[03:36] <LinuxGuy2009> markdymek_: If its a command line tool have you checked man page?
[03:36] <thiefy> nixjr_, a easy way would be. see how fast files transfer. usb 2.0 goes at 480 mbits - max. and esata is much faster.
[03:36] <gardar> nixjr_, just do lsusb and then you'll see if its using usb
[03:36] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, yea, i have both plugged in right now, and the drive works, but i just cant tell if its any different then just usb
[03:37] <braden> not that anyone cares, but I personally think that the ubuntu login sound clip really sucks ass!
[03:37] <markdymek_> linuxguy2009 yes
[03:37] <thiefy> mkquist, i do not believe ubuntu comes with such an app.
[03:37] <markdymek_> linuxguy2009 gparted is only showing my internal hard drive
[03:37] <markdymek_> how do i get it to see all drives?
[03:38] <LinuxGuy2009> markdymek_: gparted should show all drives plugged in.
[03:38] <te_> markdymek_: lsmod
[03:38] <markdymek_> nope only seeing my harddrive
[03:38] <thiefy> braden, and i don't like the fact that th enew login window gives you a selection of users. i like the win 2000 type one where you have to type the username and then type the password in.
[03:38] <Spaztic_One> braden: I agree, so I turned it off.
[03:38] <thiefy> markdymek_, in the top right. select the other drive.
[03:38] <thiefy> markdymek_, you see that drop down box?
[03:38] <braden> thiefy: that sucks too!
[03:38] <markdymek_> ya
[03:39] <thiefy> hehe. yes braden...
[03:39] <LinuxGuy2009> markdymek_: Where are you looking at in gparted? Drives are listed in top right and partitions in the main window area.
[03:39] <markdymek_> thanks thiefy
[03:39] <braden> you can turn that off too
[03:39] <braden> but what a pain in the ass rite?
[03:39] <thiefy> braden, aye?  how?
[03:39] <gardar> might have to refresh gparted too
[03:39] <Tiders> Can you view webcam on Pidgin
[03:39] <thiefy> braden, i haven't looked into it. just annoyed be... but how you change that?
[03:39] <thiefy> *me
[03:39] <gardar> XMPP webcam yes Tiders
[03:39] <thiefy> Tiders, i think not.
[03:39] <Tiders> gardar, Whats that..
[03:39] <gardar> Jabber
[03:40] <gardar> msn will be implemented later
[03:40] <LinuxGuy2009> Tiders: Dont think so thats why they switched to Empathy I think.
[03:40] <gardar> xmpp/jabber/google talk
[03:40] <dixond> ActionParsnip: well, it was hairy for a while, but two-step upgrade in recovery console seems to have basically worked. thanks.
[03:40] <thiefy> Tiders, i concur with LinuxGuy2009
[03:40] <Tiders> LinuxGuy2009, Can you view webcam on empaty
[03:40] <Spaztic_One> Current Empathy lacks IRC commands.
[03:40] <braden> why have they screwed up the ability to do other things with the logon window... like change the background
[03:40] <markdymek_> its looking
[03:40] <LinuxGuy2009> Tiders: Pretty sure you can.
[03:40] <thiefy> Tiders, yes. (but i haven't tested it myself)
[03:41] <thiefy> braden, we need to have harsh words with the 'login window' developer.
[03:41] <thiefy> me and you.
[03:41] <markdymek_> you probably need drivers for your webcam @tiders
[03:41] <thiefy> let's go to his housle.
[03:41] <nixjr_> gardar, ah thank you, when onyl the usb plugged in i see the device in lsusb, with usb+esata plugged in, its not there, i guess that means its using the esata
[03:41] <LinuxGuy2009> Tiders: Try your cam with cheese first and see if it works with Ubuntu.
[03:41] <gardar> no problemo nixjr_ :)
[03:42] <markdymek_> i think my pc is overheating so i plugged in my other fans so my computer sounds like a jet now
[03:43] <Tiders> LinuxGuy2009, VIEWING webcam not using my own
[03:43] <thiefy> nixjr_, remember all you have to do is see how fast data moves. usb acn only go 480 mbits... if the transfer is faster, than it's on esata.
[03:43] <braden> *developers
[03:43] <LinuxGuy2009> Tiders: I see.
[03:43] <gardar> thiefy, I think my method is easier :)
[03:43] <Tiders> LinuxGuy2009, Can you do that?
[03:44] <thiefy> heh
[03:44] <thiefy> i'll hunt them down.
[03:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Tiders: OMG for the 4th or 5th time. Yeah Im pretty sure you can view them. Need someone to spell it?
[03:44]  * thiefy hugs LinuxGuy2009 
[03:44] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Didn't you just spell it?
[03:44] <markdymek_> redundant?
[03:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Point taken.
[03:44] <Spaztic_One> lol
[03:44] <penguinv> PROBLEM: my system keeps crashing. after being on a while not at startup. I think it has to do with flash. 3x today.  I have 9.10 old AMD.  Who would be willing to help?  Here's some info about my system.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396504/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396505/
[03:45] <thiefy> heh
[03:45] <Spaztic_One> lol
[03:45] <LinuxGuy2009> haha
[03:45] <thiefy> penguinv, are you running windows?
[03:45] <gardar> lol
[03:45] <thiefy> oooh, sorry, i didn't see yer link.
[03:45] <nixjr_> thiefy, i have a problem with all my usb and sata transfers (including internal drives), they all suffer from a slowdown effect, the start of a transfer goes at a good speed, but it get progressively slower, so much so that after about 5gb+ things are crawling at <1mb/s
[03:45] <melik`> anyone her euse fivebean?
[03:45] <penguinv> theify only linux ubuntu 9.10
[03:46] <thiefy> nixjr_, i would get spinrite grc.com/spinrite and see how your HDs are (health wise)
[03:46] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Whats the make and model?
[03:46] <penguinv> theify I was on earlier and got this far. I had to leave to integrate what went on here. I copied it to gedit and read it over and then I could follow directions.
[03:46] <gardar> Is your disk overheating nixjr_ ?
[03:47] <thiefy> penguinv, the reason iSteve will not allow flash on his gay apple systems is because flash is HORRIBLE. it kills computers. i think you are seeing why iSteve won't allow flash on apple products.
[03:47] <nixjr_> thiefy, transfering a few large files one at a time works fine, but doing them all at once and it slows to a crawl
[03:47] <gardar> had that problem with an external drive once, got slow as hell when it got hot
[03:47] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, its happens with all my drives, i have a mix of seagate, samsung, and western digital
[03:48] <thiefy> gardar, with hds, after two years of age they die pretty quickly. read labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
[03:48] <MrPiracy_> i am having problems connecting to my windows7 machine in my home network. could anyone point me a website that shows exactly what to do in both computers?
[03:48] <thiefy> gardar, sorry, that was for nixjr_
[03:48] <gardar> :)
[03:48] <thiefy> nixjr_, also, i agree with gardar he is right.
[03:48] <thiefy> overheating is a HDs biggest enemy.
[03:49] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: So they all work but they get slower and slower as the files transfer?
[03:49] <Spaztic_One> My main HD is like, 5 years old and its fine.
[03:49] <gardar> it's an enemy of all hardware :)
[03:49] <gardar> the heat
[03:49] <thiefy> MrPiracy_, on windows insert ubuntu install cd and reboot and follow prompts.
[03:49] <thiefy> heheh
[03:49] <AbortD> is compiz fusion more in detail on kde does anyone know?
[03:49] <thiefy> sorry. i thought that was funny.
[03:49] <thiefy> AbortD, i think not.
[03:49] <markdymek_> how long will it take to run foremost?
[03:49] <AbortD> both the same?
[03:49] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, yeah, internal and external drives, im a recent convert from windows and it didnt happen then, nore does it happen when my windows friends use my external drive
[03:50] <AbortD> i noticed the kubuntu version  had more packages
[03:50] <thiefy> MrPiracy_, are you trying to see a network share?
[03:50] <gardar> what filesystem are you using nixjr_ ?
[03:50] <LinuxGuy2009> AbortD: compiz is still compiz on gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox. yeah
[03:50] <thiefy> nixjr_,  are you just seeing 'burst' speeds and then they slow down maybe?
[03:50] <AbortD> does fluxbox work good next to gnome? i tried having kde and gnome and it was a jumble
[03:50] <AbortD> been trying to google it
[03:50] <thiefy> AbortD, LinuxGuy2009 is smart.
[03:50] <LinuxGuy2009> nixjr_: Has this always happened in all Ubuntu releases?
[03:51] <nixjr_> LinuxGuy2009, im not sure, i onyl started using ubunut within the last month or so
[03:51] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009, needs to /nick LinuxGuy2010
[03:51] <LinuxGuy2009> hehehe
[03:51] <thiefy> heh
[03:51] <gardar> no he's old school
[03:51] <gardar> :P
[03:51] <nixjr_> gardar, all my data drives are ntfs, since i just chnaged form windows
[03:51] <thiefy> or /nick LinuxGuy1980 and then look all 1337 on us.
[03:51] <LinuxGuy2009> ha
[03:52] <hohosr> anyone have quick advice for installing wireless drivers? complete noob
[03:52] <LinuxGuy2009> thats good stuff
[03:52] <Jakes> Nbody know 'How to enable monitor mode 2 with iwconfig?' #help
[03:52] <gardar> switching to ext3/4 might be a good step nixjr_
[03:52] <LinuxGuy2009> hohosr: What card?
[03:52] <abhi_nav> good morning all of you
[03:52] <gardar> because then you won't have to think about defragging
[03:52] <thiefy> hohosr, go to system - admin - then to hardware drivers and see if you need one?
[03:52] <hohosr> pro/wireless 2100
[03:52]  * abhi_nav is drinking a tea. invites all of you for tea!!!
[03:52] <LinuxGuy2009>  Jakes: Monitor mode with airmon-ng?
[03:53] <blindclick> You Ubuntu guys are CRAZY!?!? lol
[03:53] <thiefy> gardar, what are your views on ext4 hard drive fragmentation? is there none at all?
[03:53] <thiefy> blindclick, we are nerds.
[03:53] <thiefy> sorry.
[03:53] <gardar> yup, none at all :)
[03:53] <blindclick> ;-)
[03:53] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009, is the biggest.
[03:53] <thiefy> so far.
[03:53] <nixjr_> gardar, my os drive is ext3, the data ones are ntfs, this slowdown effect happens even when i xfer from ntfs to ntfs drive
[03:53] <gardar> try defragging, might be worth a shot
[03:53] <thiefy> nixjr_, i thinkyour drive needs love. grc.com/spinrite
[03:54] <thiefy> youy wouldn't get that much of a slow down unless you are crazily fragmented.
[03:54] <thiefy> and the drive is full.
[03:55] <hohosr> i'm actually running backtrack to the menus are different
[03:55]  * blindclick <3 Ubuntu
[03:55] <Jakes> LinuxGuy2009: 2 = enable monitor mode with no Prism2
[03:56] <Spaztic_One> I <3 Ubuntu too, except for my sound issues
[03:56] <nixjr_> the slowdowns get progressively slower, at the start itll be going down in speed by over 1mb/s, after a few mins itll onyl be slowing down by 100kb/m perhaps ,its alreayd goign 1-2mb/s by then
[03:56] <markdymek_> how long should i let foremost run on the drive?
[03:57] <gardar> does it matter if the files are big or small nixjr_ ? And does this happen both in nautilus and with the good ol cp ?
[03:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Jakes: What? Ive only used airmon-ng start wlan0 for cracking WEP/WPA.
[03:57] <thiefy> hohosr, what is it you are trying to do? see open wifi and crack wifi of your neighbors? becuse it might be that your wireless card can NOT go into 'permisious mode' and it MUST for you to do that goal properly.
[03:57] <nixjr_> gardar, to convert file systems id have to format correct?
[03:57] <gardar> yup
[03:58] <hohosr> no thats not it, i just want the wireless to work so I can use the internet rightly on it
[03:58] <thiefy> nixjr_, when the transfer starts - how fast is it going?
[03:58] <tseiff> hello
[03:58] <thiefy> oh
[03:58] <thiefy> heh
[03:58] <thiefy> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii tseiff !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:58] <slim> hey everyone
[03:58] <thiefy> careful, there are nerds afoot.
[03:58] <hohosr> i am 3 feet from my router and its saying its not recognizing any routers in the area when I know there are tons
[03:58] <kaolbrec> thiefy, I'm not a foot!
[03:58] <slim> hey evryone
[03:58] <gardar> and do you notice the cpu or ram rising when you are transferring nixjr_ ?
[03:58] <thiefy> hohosr, is it a laptop/
[03:59] <thiefy> ?
[03:59] <slim> no one say hi :/
[03:59] <slim> depressing
[03:59] <hanasaki> has anyone gotten xdcmp working on karmic?   if so, how ?
[03:59] <thiefy> nerd ---> right there!
[03:59] <blakkheim> slim: this is a support channel, not for chatting
[03:59] <thiefy> see?
[03:59] <LinuxGuy2009> hohosr: Maybe no driver.
[03:59] <LinuxGuy2009> hohosr: What card?
[03:59] <slim> Oh, is there a chat channel somewhere on this IRC
[03:59] <slim> or Not
[03:59] <blakkheim> !ot > slim
[03:59] <thiefy> slim. sorry, we just said hi to tseiff
[03:59] <thiefy> he seemed coooler than you.
[03:59] <thiefy> real sorry though.
[03:59] <nixjr_> thiefy, nautilus dosnt tlel me the speeds right at the start, but after a few seconds it shows up at around 50mb/s
[03:59] <hohosr> I have it downloaded. Its inter pro/wireless 2100
[03:59] <gardar> slim, ##club-ubuntu
[03:59] <tseiff> I can't hibernate when VMWare is running, anyone else have this problem?
[03:59] <hohosr> *intel
[04:00] <thiefy> tseiff, i don't think i'd want to do taht.
[04:00] <tseiff> why?
[04:00] <gardar> and then the speed immediately dies nixjr_ ?
[04:00] <LinuxGuy2009> tseiff: swap partition of sufficient size?
[04:00] <thiefy> tseiff, sounds like a horrible thing to want to attempt.
[04:00] <nixjr_> gardar, yeah cpu goes to 100% according to the pannel applet
[04:00] <tseiff> um, why thiefy?
[04:00] <[[thufir]]> totem can't find this codec:  "application/zip decoder"    which appears to be some kind of windows thing??
[04:00]  * Empty_foo wonders about package managers sometimes.. why do they assume that people who have never used a package b4 understand (or want to for that matter) all the subtleties of the package instead of packing a useful f'n package? what's up with that?
[04:00] <thiefy> tseiff, virtually hibernate a virtual system... that is nuts.
[04:00] <slim> is there a way to make a suspend button on a panel?
[04:00] <gardar> the speed you see at first could be false, since it doesn't show immediately
[04:01] <coz_> [[thufir]], did you already install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:01] <blakkheim> Empty_foo: rants go to the offtopic channel please
[04:01] <thiefy> virtually make out with a chick - also nuts.
[04:01] <tseiff> umm, no: Ubunt is the host. I am trying to genuinely hibernate the native OS
[04:01] <slim> is there a way to make a suspend button on a panel?
[04:01] <thiefy> tseiff, i would 'pause' the virt machine when you want to hibernate the host.
[04:01] <blakkheim> slim: yes, create a launcher for the command
[04:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Empty_foo: Its up to the user to do the research. Your free to work on documentation for any open source work and help the community.
[04:01] <tseiff> yes, that works fine, awfully wastefull as far as effot
[04:01] <tseiff> *effort
[04:02] <[[thufir]]> coz_: yes, and generally it will find codes for strange avi files.  I wonder if the avi file is giving erroneous codec info?
[04:02] <nixjr_> gardar, if i was to give a second by second account it might go something like: 50 48 46 44 42 40 39 38 37.5 37 36.5 36 35.8 35.4  etc
[04:02] <tseiff> I have to wait for VM to suspend to disk then wait for Ubuntu to suspend to disk...Kill me
[04:02] <civpro> who is the proper owner of /var/www ?
[04:02] <thiefy> [[thufir]], i thin it's just cause in order for you to get what you want, you must inst. all those other things. so it is helping you, not angering you.
[04:02] <civpro> getting permission denied when i try to delete files
[04:02] <LinuxGuy2009> slim: user switcher applet is used for hibernation, suspend etc.
[04:02] <hDy> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 an noticed that it doesn't have wicd installed, does has System > Prefrences > Network Connections replaced this? and if so how can I scan for wireless networks in the area with it?
[04:02] <gardar> civpro, do ls -l
[04:02] <civpro> i know permissions are supposed to be 0644
[04:02] <coz_> [[thufir]],  maybe the avi file is corrupt?
[04:02] <blakkheim> hDy: sudo aptitude install wicd
[04:02] <[[thufir]]> thiefy: err, it's not finding that codec,
[04:03] <civpro> gardar i mean by default
[04:03] <thiefy> tseiff, i wouldn't try that. taht still seems crazy to me.
[04:03] <gardar> ah, not sure
[04:03] <[[thufir]]> coz_: http://software.informer.com/getfree-application-zip-decoder-plugin-totem/  seems to be codec, but it looks like gibberish
[04:03] <thiefy> [[thufir]], what codec you need? or are you not sure?
[04:03] <nixjr_> gardar, to answer your previous question, ive never used cp, the termal scares me a little lol
[04:03] <tseiff> thiefy: ?
[04:03] <tseiff> how do I IM you?
[04:03] <pfifo> I keep getting this red little Icon pop up in my tray saying it wants to report a crash, I click on it enter my password, it gathers information and then says it cant be reported cause its not genuine ubuntu package. Well duh, its the program Im making. How can I get rid of crash reporting all together?
[04:03]  * Empty_foo spins the propeller on LinuxGuy2009 's hat
[04:03] <[[thufir]]> thiefy: I think it's at that url, however, I'm not really sure that's a codec
[04:03] <civpro> anyone know?
[04:03] <shanefer> I'm trying to figure out how to configure X to display the right aspect ratio for my plasma TV so I can watch mythtv normally - as it is now NON-HD channels are always zoomed, even though I have zoom set to off... how do I configure X to have the right resolution for my TV?  I have a 42 in plasma that's currently at 1024x768 due to the auto-configure
[04:04] <gardar> well just try copying something nixjr_ just cp /some/file /your/disk/
[04:04] <thiefy> tseiff, type /msg thiefy and then type your message here.
[04:04] <civpro> drw-r--r--  2 www-data root  4096 2010-03-17 03:27 www
[04:04] <coz_> [[thufir]],  is this avi file one you downloaded?
[04:04] <LinuxGuy2009> Empty_foo: Hey I like my tweedle dum hat. Hand off pal.
[04:04] <thiefy> direct all questions to LinuxGuy2009 - he is the smartest one here. hahhahaha.
[04:04] <civpro> is what is currently
[04:04] <jrtayloriv> If I install the latest version of CPAN from the CPAN shell (i.e. with "install CPAN") is that going to break aptitude's dependency tree?
[04:04] <civpro> i manually set www-data as owner
[04:05] <markdymek_> anyone here from the boston area? i am running a computer repair service for more infor pm me
[04:05] <thiefy> jrtayloriv, trees are strong. if you got root.
[04:05] <thiefy> hahah
[04:05] <thiefy> i funny.
[04:05] <thiefy> hahaha
[04:05] <FloodBot1> thiefy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <gardar> but oh wait nixjr_ might wise to use time too.... time cp /some/file /some/location/
[04:05] <[[thufir]]> coz_: well, not directly, but yeah.   some windows weirdness?  there's a README with it, with a web page for a commercial app.
[04:05] <coz_> [[thufir]],  honestly I have never seen that before  have you tried #totem channel?
[04:05] <jrtayloriv> (i.e. if I've already got CPAN installed through aptitude?)
[04:05] <coz_> [[thufir]],  torrent download?
[04:05] <blakkheim> thiefy: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:05] <Spaztic_One> Would / could someone help?
[04:05] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Whats up?
[04:06] <thiefy> [[thufir]], is that a link to a  video? or a link to what? i'm not sure what type of vid yer trying to play....
[04:06] <[[thufir]]> coz_: the readme directs to http://jjpeg.com/flv.html  but they're quite vague about any codecs they use.
[04:06] <Spaztic_One> [23:28:32]	<Spaztic_One>	Currently, no sound. It was working the other day, and I logged out, and when I logged back in, there was no sound.
[04:06] <tseiff> thiefy is supporting, not questioning
[04:06] <tseiff> :)
[04:06] <Spaztic_One> I've gone through guides, and I think in the end, it just complicated my problems.
[04:06] <blindclick> bwahahaha
[04:06] <[[thufir]]> thiefy: the vid has a README saying to use http://jjpeg.com/flv.html but not sure how to use it.
[04:06] <blindclick> I love ubuntu support
[04:06] <coz_> [[thufir]],   i think it might be better to download a movie via torrent  rather than one of these sites
[04:06] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Have you tried removing pulseaudio to see if that fixes it up? Its pretty common for pulse to be buggy.
[04:06] <thiefy> Spaztic_One, LinuxGuy2009 would love to / help you.
[04:07] <Spaztic_One> Yes, and I think that's what made things worse.
[04:07] <coz_> [[thufir]],  it may say spyware and virus free but my guess is if yhou installed that onto windows...you wouldnt like the outcome
[04:07] <thiefy> flv.
[04:07] <thiefy> isn't that flash video?
[04:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Ok so reinstall pulse and try that.
[04:07] <thiefy> or am i wrong?
[04:07] <coz_> thiefy,  yes that is flash
[04:07] <thiefy> cool.
[04:08] <thiefy> [[thufir]], now we know what it is you want /need.
[04:08] <coz_> thiefy,  did you want to convert that to avi?
[04:08] <Spaztic_One> I had Pulseaudio removed, and it took away my volume control. Its reinstalled currently, and though my control is back, I have no sound.
[04:08] <coz_> oh
[04:08] <thiefy> coz_, it's [[thufir]] that is trying to play a flv.
[04:08] <[[thufir]]> yeah, is that just a virus, or, is it a codec?
[04:08] <coz_> [[thufir]],  oh guy ok  well   you can convert that to avi if you want
[04:08] <blindclick> virus
[04:08] <thiefy> [[thufir]], flv is not a virus.
[04:08] <thiefy> [[thufir]], but that site prob is.
[04:08] <thiefy> like blindclick said....
[04:08] <coz_> [[thufir]],  or install  flash  although with the restricted extras it should have been installed
[04:08] <[[thufir]]> but, if it's really flv, then flash should play it.
[04:08] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Could be a bug. Might have better luck with 9.04 or wait for 10.04 LTS?
[04:08] <coz_> [[thufir]],  however if you open a terminal   sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[04:08] <[[thufir]]> flv files play fine.
[04:09] <thiefy> [[thufir]], you are right.
[04:09] <thiefy> [[thufir]], there is no sudo apt-get install flv.... that is not needed.
[04:09] <thiefy> [[thufir]], good job not dl'ing that shieeit fromt hat site.
[04:09] <shanefer> I'm trying to figure out how to configure X to display the right aspect ratio for my plasma TV so I can watch mythtv normally - as it is now NON-HD channels are always zoomed, even though I have zoom set to off... how do I configure X to have the right resolution for my TV? I have a 42 in plasma that's currently at 1024x768 due to the auto-configure
[04:09] <coz_> [[thufir]],  then cd to the location of that flv  file  and type   ffmpeg -i nameofmovie.flv  nameofmovie.avi    it should convert it
[04:09] <thiefy> you are wiser than you smell.
[04:09] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: OK, how would I go about downgrading to Jaunty?
[04:10] <thiefy> downgrade?
[04:10] <[[thufir]]> ah, ok, I'll try that command.  brb.
[04:10] <thiefy> [[thufir]], i'll wait here.
[04:10] <coz_> [[thufir]],  make sure ffmpeg is installed first
[04:10] <coz_> [[thufir]],  sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[04:10] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Backup your home and clean install.
[04:10] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: So I would need to make another CD?
[04:10] <thiefy> sudo apt-get girlfriend is broken!
[04:10] <LinuxGuy2009> I currently run 9.04 and there are like 300 updates since release and it runs great for me.
[04:11] <thiefy> spasticteapot, you aren't. Cd means change directory.
[04:11] <thiefy> cd
[04:11] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: If you dont already have one sure.
[04:11] <pfifo> thiefy, its sudo apt-get install girlfriend
[04:11] <gardar> thiefy, sudo apt-get moo
[04:11] <spasticteapot> I do what now?
[04:11] <thiefy> sorry spasticteapot that was for Spaztic_One
[04:12] <thiefy> it's like yer twins...
[04:12] <thiefy> your nicks are soo similar.
[04:12] <Spaztic_One> Ugh, I dun wanna burn another disk. There some other way, perchance? Also note that I'm using an "install within windows"
[04:12] <thiefy> maybe you should give Spaztic_One  a phone call....
[04:12] <blindclick> sudo apt-get install girlfriend does not work.. what now (-;
[04:12] <robertzaccour> how do i change the login sound?
[04:12] <robertzaccour> i don't like the default one lol
[04:12] <w3bcrawler> so i haven't used ubuntu in a while.. had 7.04.. upgraded to 8.04 and my keyboard stopped working in X D:
[04:12] <thiefy> Spaztic_One, now that you know how to convert it. the question is, why do you want to convert it.?
[04:12] <Spaztic_One> Theify, what's even weirder is that one of my RL friends uses the name T-Pot
[04:12] <thiefy> blindclick, i need help with that!
[04:12] <[[thufir]]> trying to play an alledged flv avi file:  http://www.pastie.org/873282   (not sure whether that's flv or avi)
[04:13] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Uninstall it and reinstall it in Windows. I have no clue I stopped using Windows like 2 years ago.
[04:13] <thiefy> w3bcrawler, sudo apt-get install girlfriend is broken. so i think sudo apt-get fix_keyboard might not work also....
[04:13] <thiefy> this sucks.
[04:13] <thiefy> flv avi file? that is wrong. it's one or the other.
[04:13] <coz_> [[thufir]],   what is the exact nanme of the file
[04:13] <thiefy> either flash or flv. [[thufir]]
[04:13] <robertzaccour> how do i change the login sound?
[04:14] <coz_> [[thufir]],  something .flv.avi?
[04:14] <thiefy> Spaztic_One, hahhaha
[04:14] <[[thufir]]> thiefy: it's .flv, but I think it's actually an avi.  maybe that's the problem?
[04:14] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Yeah, I'm trying it out before I make the official move (or stay). So far, everything is great, except my audio. All the programs I want to keep run very well in WINE, and the others have equivalents for under the Linux Kernel.
[04:14] <pfifo> thiefy, perhaps you need to `sudo killall -9 ex-girlfriend` and then `sudo apt-get remove baggage` first?
[04:14] <coz_> [[thufir]],  if there are two formats listed on the file  Ie   flv  and avi    remove one of the
[04:14] <coz_> them
[04:14] <thiefy> [[thufir]], type sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:14] <blindclick> please check this off 5 stars as your GF - I need CEIC conf - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeI8KR1L83o - I will give all her base 2 u after 5 star vote
[04:14] <thiefy> [[thufir]], and vlc can play almost anything.
[04:15] <gardar> robertzaccour, system>preferences>sound
[04:15] <thiefy> pfifo, hahah
[04:15] <thiefy> you are wise.
[04:15] <coz_> [[thufir]],  right click that video and check the size of it please
[04:15] <w3bcrawler> so i haven't used ubuntu in a while.. had 7.04.. upgraded to 8.04 and my keyboard stopped working in X D:
[04:15] <Guest12516> So, I'm thinking about investing in a GeForce 9400gt video card, but I wanted to ask the room a couple more questions.
[04:15] <civpro> i cant seem to find anyone or anywhere on google that the default owner or group should be for var/www/   can anyone help me?
[04:15] <thiefy> sudo apt-get dist-update from_bitch_to_new_wench
[04:15] <thiefy> works!
[04:15] <thiefy> w007
[04:15] <pfifo> thiefy, those packages tend to clash with one another
[04:15] <coz_> Guest12516,  what questions?
[04:15] <blindclick> lol
[04:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest12516: Got some questions?
[04:16] <thiefy> she cooks!
[04:16] <thiefy> w007
[04:16] <shanefer> I'm trying to figure out how to configure X to display the right aspect ratio for my plasma TV so I can watch mythtv normally - as it is now NON-HD channels are always zoomed, even though I have zoom set to off... how do I configure X to have the right resolution for my TV? I have a 42 in plasma that's currently at 1024x768 due to the auto-configure
[04:16] <nixjr_> gardar, using time cp, a 160mb file took 3sec, a 1.1gb file took 22sec ... its doing a 22gb file now, but still going
[04:16] <coz_> [[thufir]],  is the file smaller than 30 megs?
[04:16] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Oh, other reason for me to not change to Jaunty is that I would have to move my computer to a wired internet connection for it to fetch the updates to get my wireless NIC to work.
[04:16] <thiefy> Guest12516, i would say taht is a good choice and will work fine with ubuntu.
[04:16] <Guest12516> I wanted to know, because my Intel video card can't even do desktop effects, would the GeForce 9400gt be able to do compiz well and support above 1024x768 resolution? And would it be able to handle a game like Doom 3?
[04:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: Well Im not forcing you into anything so its your call.
[04:16] <robertzaccour> gardar, is it the sound effects tab?
[04:17] <Guest12516> That's what I figured but I just had to be sure. I've asked like three times now but I lost the results when someone answer lawl so I asked again
[04:17] <thiefy> nixjr_, those speeds look normal.
[04:17] <robertzaccour> gardar, is there a way to include your own?
[04:17] <gardar> so you seem to be getting better speeds with cp nixjr_
[04:17] <mezquitale> Spaztic_One, karmic has better support on hardware than jaunty, jaunty is an aberration!
[04:17] <[[thufir]]> coz_: yes.  want to send it to you?
[04:17] <soreau> Guest12516: My guess would be yes, but ati is also an option that can do compiz and doom3
[04:17] <thiefy> Guest12516, it would. but that is not a new card.. 9400, isn't that like 4 years old?
[04:17] <civpro> i cant seem to find anyone or anywhere on google that the default owner or group should be for var/www/   can anyone help me?
[04:17] <coz_> [[thufir]],  yes use speedyshare.com
[04:17] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Yes, I know. Do you have any other suggestions / advice for getting my audio working?
[04:17] <nixjr_> gardar, the slowdown has more of an effect the bigger the xfer, ill hold my breath till this 22gb ones down
[04:17] <coz_> [[thufir]],  unless you have a dropbox account
[04:17] <[[thufir]]> coz_: thx.  I'll brb.
[04:17] <Guest12516> oh wow. Geeze, what would a newer Nvidia card be? Like, say 512mb.
[04:18] <markdymek_> 1gb
[04:18] <markdymek_> sometimes more
[04:18] <thiefy> soreau, i think ati has lost to nvidia....
[04:18] <markdymek_> depends on the card
[04:18] <thiefy> do you?
[04:18] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: Also, my computer doesn't appear to see my onboard audio...
[04:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest12516: I have a 9800GTX+ 1GB ram on the card. It runs Doom 3, Quake Wars Enemy territory, Compiz all smooth as silk at 1440x900. That card may or may not be that great. My onboard video is a 9300 or 9400 and is a bit laggy cause it uses system ram.
[04:18] <markdymek_> you can get 1gb gddr5 now
[04:18] <civpro> hrm, no-one here has ever done a webserver before?
[04:18] <soreau> thiefy: and I think you're wrong.
[04:18] <civpro> someone has to know
[04:18] <robertzaccour> isn't intel supposed to be better than ati and nvidia for Linux?
[04:18] <soreau> thiefy: There is no 'battle' but instead an improvement in linux
[04:19] <Spaztic_One> LinuxGuy2009: It did earlier, but not currently, and I switched to a different ouput, and its still not working.
[04:19] <thiefy> Guest12516, you will want to save up 100 dollars and buy a card taht is at least 2 years old if you want to get fancy....
[04:19] <LinuxGuy2009> Spaztic_One: sudo lshw -C sound
[04:19] <robertzaccour> i don't see login sound in sound preferences
[04:20] <gardar> I think it's configured in the "sound theme" or something like that
[04:20] <Terry1> Hello, is there a program for ubuntu that is similar to peerguardian2? I have recently switched over from Windows XP to ubuntu and trying to figure out a way to block my IP address during torrent download
[04:20] <nixjr_> gardar, its still going, 3.2gb out of 22gb xfered so far, and its taken ~5mins to get this far
[04:20] <thiefy> robertzaccour, intel makes cpu. nvidea and ati (now bought by amd) make graphics cards. intel make 'integrated' gfx card though - wh ich suck for compiz.
[04:20] <thiefy> LinuxGuy2009, pwns yet again.
[04:20] <thiefy> soreau, yes. i agree.
[04:20] <soreau> thiefy: intel cards aren't so bad as long as the driver is working
[04:21] <robertzaccour> thiefy, i have a dell, so assumint its integrated
[04:21] <Terry1> Anybody can help me please?
[04:21] <Guest12516> WEll, I think that about covers it. As long as it does better than 1024x768 resolution and runs smoothly for games like Doom 3, I'm cool.
[04:21] <gardar> yea ive had good experiene with intel and compiz
[04:21] <soreau> But since the changes in the intel driver, 'working' is a spotted term
[04:21] <pfifo> thiefy, you can also try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure girlfriend-current` and set location to kitchen.local and deny access to the audio subsystems
[04:21] <Guest12516> Nvidia Quadro FX 3700 looks pretty good.
[04:21] <Guest12516> It's expensive but looks wonderful.
[04:21] <gardar> Terry1, ktorrent has support for ip filters
[04:21] <thiefy> soreau, robertzaccour i was referrring to using compiz. if you really wanna go nuts, intel integrated won't quite cut it. and a nvidia is what i'd recommend... that's all...
[04:21] <Terry1> Ok thank you gardar
[04:21] <nixjr_> i have an 9800gt and compiz works fine here
[04:22] <Terry1> nixjr_ what version are you using?
[04:22] <gardar> also check this out Terry1 http://moblock.berlios.de/
[04:22] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest12516: Just checked my Doom 3 box and it says 6800 minimum.
[04:22] <thiefy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure girlfriend-current  - error. bitch won't listen. try /kill wench or /man bury_wench
[04:22] <thiefy> wiered output...
[04:22] <thiefy> wierd.
[04:22] <thiefy> nixjr_, i have the same.
[04:23] <Guest12516> nice
[04:23] <thiefy> and agree.
[04:23] <robertzaccour> how do i change the login sound? i don't see it in sound preferences
[04:23] <Myrtti> thiefy: did you have an unanswered Ubuntu support question, or are you going to continue your "jokes"?
[04:23] <thiefy> Guest12516, any modern card will do compiz just fine.
[04:23] <Terry1> nixjr_ I have 9800 GTX+. right now the computer is using version 185 but I don't know how to get 190 to install
[04:23] <thiefy> Myrtti, both.
[04:23] <thiefy> thanks for asking.
[04:23] <Boohbah> Myrtti: "Jokes" are actually "Funny" so quit hating, hater
[04:23] <gardar> robertzaccour, quick google gave me http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/07/changing-startup-music-in-ubuntu.html
[04:23] <Myrtti> thiefy: I suggest stopping the latter
[04:24] <thiefy> Myrtti, i suggest the 'unmentioned' aka going back into your trolling hole.
[04:24] <pfifo> thiefy, can you still execute /dev/vagina or have you been denied access?
[04:24] <thiefy> thanks for the input though.
[04:24] <[[thufir]]> coz_: oh, files too big, thought it was smaller than it is.  I'll try again later. thanks.
[04:24] <thiefy> it's been great.
[04:24] <gardar> Terry1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978
[04:24] <[[thufir]]> thiefy: thanks, will try again later.
[04:24] <thiefy> thanks for 'helping' the community.
[04:24] <coz_> [[thufir]],  ah ok
[04:24] <Terry1> thank you
[04:25] <LinuxGuy2009> I need food. Later.
[04:25] <thiefy> heh
[04:25] <KB1JWQ> There are a lot of apt packages.  apt-get, apt-cache, etc.  Is there a definitive guide to "what they all are, and what they do?"
[04:25] <thiefy> oh crap. now no more hard questions please people.
[04:25] <thiefy> linuxguy is gone....
[04:25] <Spaztic_One> *sigh*
[04:25] <robertzaccour> gardar, thats what i did, it must be in a different place in lucid
[04:26] <gardar> KB1JWQ, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[04:26] <gardar> but check out aptitude too, it's better than apt-get
[04:26] <gardar> i'll take care of those questions thiefy :)
[04:27] <Spaztic_One> Is there a command to reset all packages or whatever to the stock for 9.10?
[04:27] <thiefy> Spaztic_One, no.
[04:27] <Spaztic_One> Or a slew of commands
[04:27] <thiefy> heheh, thanks gardar
[04:27] <sekyourbox> how do I see what driver I'm using?
[04:27] <Spaztic_One> rather, not all packages, just the ones that relate to sound
[04:27] <sekyourbox> how do I see what wifi driver I'm using?
[04:27] <pfifo> sekyourbox, `lsmod`
[04:28] <gardar> sekyourbox, if you want to use gui right click the network manager applet and click "connection information"
[04:28] <coz_> [[thufir]],  do you have a dropbox account?
[04:28] <Guest12516> GeForce 9800 GX2 1 GB PCI - BOOM! found the video card I want.
[04:28] <thiefy> Guest12516, you will be happy with that.
[04:28] <gardar> shoosh coz_ , we talk about ubuntu one here, not dropbox :)
[04:29] <thiefy> Guest12516, type /nick pleasesetmeanickame
[04:29] <thiefy> it hurts...
[04:29] <sekyourbox> Thanks!
[04:29] <robertzaccour> i went to sound preferences and there is no tab or anything about login sound
[04:29] <AbortD> anyone here use cairo dock?
[04:29] <pfifo> Guest12516, not very ambitious are you: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] (rev a2)
[04:30] <robertzaccour> AbortD, if you use a dock you'd most likely like AWN better
[04:30] <gardar> Well I'm lost robertzaccour, never done it myself.... but googling "change ubuntu startup sound" gave bunch of results
[04:30] <AbortD> AWN?
[04:30] <Lovecraft_X> there we go nick solved
[04:30] <coz_> AbortD,  I use cairo dock
[04:30] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: Are you saying there is better?
[04:31] <gardar> some say do docky is the best
[04:31] <AbortD> hehe coz :D
[04:31] <coz_> AbortD,  you can meet me in #cairo-dock if you like
[04:31] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, yeah
[04:31] <waveclaw> I'm a big fan of Cairo, but used AWN (Avant Window Navigator) for  quite a while.
[04:31] <robertzaccour> AbortD, avant-window-navigator
[04:31] <janjust> hello all, I have a problem with SSHing into my Ubuntu machine, anyone care to help?
[04:31] <nixjr> well i started playing with compiz then things got crazy and i had to restart
[04:31] <thiefy> robertzaccour, please look at this link to solve yoru troubles   http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+karmic+change+login+sound&l=1
[04:31] <robertzaccour> AbortD, it looks a lot better imo and is more stable
[04:31] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: alright, you'll have to inform me - give me something that can run Crysis at full spec :D
[04:31] <gardar> janjust, what sort of a problem?
[04:32] <robertzaccour> i heard good things about crysis
[04:32] <gardar> connecting locally or over the net?
[04:32] <mcgvac> janjust do you have ssh server installed
[04:32] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, Im sure that will run crysis at full spec, thats not hard todo. Best Nvidia atm is 295GTX i believe.
[04:32] <gardar> if not, then sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[04:32] <janjust> gardar: ty for reply, my ubuntu machine has a static ip assigned to it, I can ssh when I have already logging in manually; however, if I haven't i can't.
[04:32] <nixjr> someone asked about nvidia drivers, im using 185
[04:32] <janjust> gardar: I'm assuming that's because the connection isn't established until I have already logged in.
[04:33] <thiefy> Myrtti = ex_girlfriend
[04:33] <thiefy> hahah
[04:33] <janjust> yes, I can SSH into it once I'm manually logged in at the machine.
[04:33] <gardar> that's wired, shouldn't be configured that way by default
[04:33] <thiefy> gardar, what is the diff between sudo aptitude and apt-get ? i read long ago that you should use aptitude, but do you understand why?
[04:34] <coz_> AbortD,  cairo dock is the most configurable of the 3 docks available on linux and I believe mich more stable as it is beautiful ...it comes with many themes  all of which can be edited or a new on created
[04:34] <gardar> should only need to power it on and then bam, ssh into it
[04:34] <thiefy> bam!
[04:34] <nixjr> gardar, before i had to cancel the xfer and restart, itd done 6.4gb over about 14mins
[04:34] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: wow! no kidding! now *that's a video card!
[04:34] <thiefy> say it!
[04:34] <thiefy> bam!
[04:34] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: and super expensive, too!
[04:34] <janjust> yeah that's how it us with my other machines but they have dynamic address assignment, this one is static, any clues?
[04:34] <janjust> it is*
[04:34] <mneptok> thiefy: please stay on-topic
[04:34] <thiefy> janjust, static vs. dynamic has nothing to do with it...
[04:35] <thiefy> mneptok, i will try...
[04:35] <janjust> thiefy: ok.... so any clues?
[04:35] <rww> thiefy: aptitude used to be significantly better at resolving dependencies. apt-get has caught up to the point where you shouldn't face a situation in Ubuntu that apt-get can't deal with, so it's pretty much a matter of personal taste.
[04:35] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, GTS is the next step down, resonable price and can be SLi'd together for added performance.
[04:35] <mneptok> thiefy: you will succeed, or you will be banned.
[04:35] <janjust> the connection doesn't come alive until I log in
[04:35] <thiefy> rww, ahh, that is what i thought. taht it didn't matter anymore. thanks.
[04:36] <thiefy> mneptok, banned out of a free support channel when i have given two hours of my life to helping beginners? really, that is what you would do?
[04:36] <thiefy> wow.
[04:36] <gardar> rww, used apt-get recently to remove some packages.... then I ran aptitude and it saw some packages apt-get didn't remove
[04:36] <pfifo> thiefy, yeah they do
[04:36] <thiefy> wow. imma /join redhat then.
[04:36] <Myrtti> thiefy: helping others doesn't give you a "get out of trouble free" card
[04:36] <mneptok> thiefy: if you have donated two hours, then you should be familiar with the rules that apply to everyone.
[04:36] <rww> gardar: it's my understanding that apt-get autoremove would have dealt with that, or that you removed the packages instead of purging them, depending on what you mean.
[04:36] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: wouldn't the 9800gx2 run compiz at full speed and smoothly, thuough?
[04:37] <rww> gardar: I personally use aptitude, though :)
[04:37] <thiefy> how many ips do you tink the ban list can hold? do you know how often it gets cleared rww? or you just an angry person?
[04:37] <janjust> So I don't mean to press the issue but I take it noone could direct me where I should probe the problem?
[04:37] <gardar> ah, didn't do autoremove, just thought it would come automatically like with aptitude :)
[04:38] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, yes, 9800 series is good enough, comparing apples to oranges, i would put the 9800 series as equal to PS2 graphics and the GT series at PS3 level
[04:38] <thiefy> trouble? off topic is trouble? what if i accidentally said some bad advice, how much 'irc trouble' would i be in then?
[04:38] <thiefy> why are you threatening me?
[04:38] <thiefy> can you spell the word community, or do lyou just love trying to enforce 'community'?
[04:38] <mneptok> thiefy: i'm reminding you of the rules, and the consequences of not following them.
[04:38] <gardar> discuss it in pm guys
[04:39] <rww> thiefy: I think you have the wrong person, I didn't say anything about banning you. As far as your questions go, #ubuntu-ops would know better than I would, as I'm not an operator.
[04:39] <janjust> heh drama drama
[04:39] <etrev> did I just walk in to a middle school?
[04:39] <mneptok> janjust: the connection that is not active, is it wireless or wired?
[04:39] <janjust> wired mneptok
[04:39] <thiefy> i want to give a big huge community hug to angry mneptok.
[04:40] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: the gts250 is what you're talking about right? i mean that looks pretty good and isn't ridiculously expensive
[04:40] <mneptok> janjust: if you want the interface active on boot you'll need to set the correct parameters in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:40] <pfifo> lol, darn 12 year olds staying up late and sneaking onto the computer to providde ubuntu support
[04:40] <janjust> ok mneptok , I'll go looking around, thank you for your help
[04:41] <blindclick> thats true ubuntu community
[04:41] <gardar> there's a new nvidia line coming out in two weeks or so... so old cards might drop in price, just fyi pfifo
[04:41] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, i paid $160USD on christmas and I have yet to find anything that it cant run
[04:41] <thiefy> mneptok, isn't 12. she's just a bitch.
[04:41] <Out_Cold> can you pass key combos in a script? like ^z?
[04:41] <janjust> lol
[04:42] <janjust> the goodbye message is priceless
[04:42] <etrev> OH SNAP
[04:42] <etrev> HE'S SO COOL
[04:42] <codeshepherd> netstat -antp| grep :3331  says the following...  tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3331            0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN        .. now which process is listening on 3331 and how do i kill the process?
[04:42] <mneptok> someone needs a juice box and a nap.
[04:42] <gardar> lol
[04:42] <etrev> lol
[04:42] <Out_Cold> i do, i do
[04:42] <pfifo> lol
[04:42] <blindclick> lol
[04:42] <etrev> that was a much needed collective "lol"
[04:43] <blindclick> why ban theify?
[04:43] <nixjr> i wish i had a pc when i was 12
[04:43] <mneptok> blindclick: not a subject for this channel.
[04:43] <Out_Cold> so anyone know if you can pass meta characters off as viable script commands?
[04:43] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: then its a great choice - ill go with it
[04:43] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, you shouldn't be disappoint
[04:44] <nokia3510> hello
[04:44] <blindclick> mneptok; what would the theify subject be then?
[04:44] <mneptok> blindclick: join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss bans
[04:45] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, and in a year when there 50 bucks you can get a second and bridge them together
[04:45] <blindclick> mneptok; ok, I will thank you.
[04:45] <nokia3510> what could be the reason the boot process halts for a few seconds asking for luks passphrase but continues after a while even if I'm still typing the pass ?
[04:45] <dbook82> I recently installed Ubuntu 9.10 but it does not recognize my cd/dvd rom drive, some help plz?
[04:46] <nokia3510> crypttab/fstab are setup properly and manual mount works ok
[04:46] <blindclick> dbook82; you need to use K3B
[04:46] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: thats a great idea too
[04:46] <dbook82> blindclick: K3B?
[04:46] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, thats my personal plan
[04:46] <blindclick> dbook82; yup
[04:47] <dbook82> where do i find that? can I get it on synaptic?
[04:47] <mneptok> dbook82: is this an internal drive? SATA? PATA? make? model?
[04:47] <mneptok> dbook82: K3B may well not help
[04:47] <nokia3510> perhaps it's an upstart related issue ?
[04:47] <dbook82> mneptok: its an internal drive in my acer laptop, its a matsushita if memory serves me
[04:48] <pfifo> dbook82, K3B is a program to burn media, if you cant detect the presence of a drive then it probbally wont be much use
[04:48] <blindclick> I had a problem with Brasero, K3B cured it. All DVD/CD copys work with it and not with the built in Ubuntu Brasero software.
[04:48] <codeshepherd> netstat says that  port 3331 is used by sshd... how do i force sshd to release the port ?  netstat -antp | grep 3331 outputs tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3331            0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN      14973/sshd: deepan
[04:49] <MrPiracy> i am having problems connecting to a printer on a win7 machine in my home network. could anyone please help?
[04:49] <dbook82> right, my problem is unbuntu isn't even recognizing my drive. it can recognize usb drives and my printer but my my cd/dvdrom drive
[04:50] <MrPiracy> dbook82: is ur cd drive working properly?
[04:50] <Lovecraft_X> pfifo: yeah but would the 512mb gts250 be a good choice and still run the newer games
[04:50] <dbook82> under windows it is
[04:51] <dbook82> under linux its not
[04:51] <blindclick> Linux is not made for games, so stop trying to play them on Linux. Get a VM to play them in.
[04:51] <MrPiracy> dbook82: is it internal drive?
[04:51] <dbook82> yes it is
[04:51] <blindclick> Linux games suck.
[04:52] <blindclick> They are developing though.
[04:52] <pfifo> Lovecraft_X, yes it will run all newer games, I recommend getting 1GB or better. Some of the newer games can used more than 512 for textures.
[04:52] <waveclaw> programer art hurts the eyes.  But wine works for me.
[04:52] <braden> women
[04:52] <dbook82> mrpirate: yes its internal
[04:52] <dbook82> sorry MrPiracy
[04:53] <nokia3510> halp
[04:53] <nokia3510> anyone luks savvy ?
[04:53] <blindclick> !halp - command not found
[04:53] <MrPiracy> dbook82: i assume itś not listed in "places" rite?
[04:53] <Losha> blindclick: brasero is riddled with bugs. It's unusable...
[04:53] <braden> I have only one thing on my mind...
[04:53] <dbook82> MrPiracy: no its not, and /cdrom folder is empty
[04:53] <MrPiracy> dbook82: didn't you mess with ur ftab file?
[04:54] <TironN> Losha: its been fine for me. But I don't do anything special
[04:54] <dbook82> no i did not
[04:54] <Losha> TironN: I suppose it must work for someone, or it would be gone...
[04:54] <dbook82> MrPiracy: no i haven't messed with that file
[04:55] <braden> I understand that this is off topic but I am feeling this way now so I feel as if I should share it....
[04:55] <pfifo> Basero works for me too, but if it didn't wodim has never let me down
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> braden, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:55] <TironN> Losha: what's wrong for you?
[04:55] <MrPiracy> dbook82: try to get the brand and model # of ur drive and check for compatibility with ubuntu. i doubt there would be any, but i cant think of anything else to try, cd drives are pretty ordinary
[04:55] <blindclick> Basero sucks
[04:56] <blindclick> Does not work for my AMD x64
[04:56] <dbook82> I know it mystifies me... everything else works fine...
[04:56] <braden> DICE...EA.... have completely ruined that Battlefield brand with Battlefield Bad Company 2
[04:56] <janjust> ok so setting up a static connection in /etc/network/interfaces failed
[04:56] <freeride> hi guys, please help! How to increase APT::Cache-Limit in Karmic???
[04:56] <dbook82> MrPiracy: I'll check on that, thanks
[04:56] <Losha> TironN: I don't use it any more, so I don't actually recall. I'm use growisofs and/or cdrecord now.
[04:56] <braden> I am depressed
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> !ot > braden
[04:56] <janjust> it seems it has overridden my networks managers settings and now the machine won't connect at all :/
[04:56] <MrPiracy> dbook82: wait ... cd drives are not mounted unless u have a disk in it. do you have a disk?
[04:56] <dbook82> yes
[04:57] <braden> bot! this is serious stuff
[04:57] <MrPiracy> dbook82: try other disks then, it might be a disk structure issue
[04:57] <dbook82> right now i have the live dvd disc i used to install ubuntu with, and before that i tried a music cd
[04:57] <freeride> hi guys, please help! How to increase APT::Cache-Limit in Karmic???
[04:57] <braden> BF2 was awesome!
[04:57] <Losha> braden: please discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[04:57] <braden> :(
[04:57] <blindclick> help out America and vote 5 stars please - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeI8KR1L83o
[04:58] <janjust> well I gotta run, hope to resolve this at a later time, peace all!
[04:58] <freeride> please help! How to increase APT::Cache-Limit in Karmic???
[04:58] <MrPiracy> dbook82: hmmmm check the mount command and try to mount it manually
[04:58] <TironN> Losha: ill try cdrecord tonight
[04:58] <braden> sudo su
[04:58] <pfifo> sudo -s > sudo su
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> braden, don't give that command - it isn't even correct
[04:58] <freeride> please help! How to increase APT::Cache-Limit in Karmic???
[04:59] <freeride> ANYONE, please help! How to increase APT::Cache-Limit in Karmic???
[04:59] <braden> not correct?
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > freaky[t]
[04:59] <dbook82> MrPiracy: where do i find the mount commands? and how do i mount manually?
[04:59] <braden> how so please?
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > freeride
[04:59] <Losha> TironN: if brasero works fine for you, no need to change, except as a learning experience...
[04:59] <Lovecraft_X> Will Ubuntu read an external DVD writer?
[04:59] <braden> yes
[05:00] <MrPiracy> dbook82:  open a terminal window and type mount
[05:00] <rww> ubottu: who | braden
[05:00] <Losha> Lovecraft_X: in general, yes. Should be plug and play (famous last words...)
[05:00] <TironN> Losha: I do want to learn! Half the fun of Linux.
[05:00] <Losha> TironN: go for it then....
[05:01] <dbook82> MrPiracy: anything else besides mount? i just tpyed mount and hit enter and got a bunch of lines of stuff
[05:01] <MrPiracy> dbook82: try mount --help
[05:01] <pfifo> dbook82, try `man mount`
[05:01] <MrPiracy> dbook82: try to google to get the correct syntax to mount a cd drive
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> !google > MrPiracy
[05:01] <braden> Gslap
[05:02] <Losha> dbook82: what kind of drive, how is it connected?
[05:02] <MrPiracy> ZykoticK9: hehe, ok, sorry
[05:02] <dbook82> MrPiracy: cd/dvd rom matsushita, internal
[05:02] <jastor> funny thing is that it lists my bd player as as normal cdplayer ;)
[05:03] <Losha> dbook82: and what's on the disk you've put in it?
[05:03] <jastor> it has no problem burning cds or dvds :) it just says taht
[05:03] <MrPiracy> dbook82: hang on
[05:03] <dbook82> losha: first was a music cd, second the ubuntu live dvd i used to install, third... diablo 2 play disk
[05:04] <harisund> Has anyone got Ubuntu running on a EEE T91MT (it's supposed to be a multi touch tablet, but I can live without the "multi" part. I just want touch screen to work..
[05:04] <MrPiracy> dbook82: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:04] <Losha> dbook82: and you're saying you can't read any of them?
[05:05] <kel> harisund: Yes actually.
[05:05] <dbook82> losha: thats correct...
[05:05] <dbook82> MrPiracy: ok wait one
[05:05] <jastor> Losha: for a minute i were afraid you were going to say youd ahve to specify iso9660 / juliet / whatever type for the mount ;)
[05:05] <harisund> kel: Are there any links to drivers? I am not able to find anything on the web regarding a non-Windows T91
[05:05] <snxs> hello, im haveing a problem.. after i log in the ubuntu splash screen starts and all seems fine and then my monitor tells me im out of range.. how can i fix this ? im obviously not because the login screen looks good
[05:06] <Losha> jastor: I'm waiting to see what the result of MrPiracy's mount command is first :-)
[05:06] <jastor> snxs: they could be set up for diffrent hz/resolutions ;)
[05:06] <jastor> snxs: ctrl+alt+f1 .. and login ... and edit the settings by terminal
[05:06] <dbook82> MrPiracy: says can't find /dev/cdrom/mnt/cdrom in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:07] <jastor> dbook82: you forogt a space
[05:07] <snxs> jastor , xorg.conf? or is there another file
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> dbook82, MrPiracy's command has a few issues - you could try "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" - but i don't think it will work either
[05:07] <dbook82> put the space in and it says only root can do that
[05:08] <MrPiracy> dbook82: read ZykoticK9
[05:08] <dbook82> wait one
[05:09] <MrPiracy> i am having problems connecting to a printer on a win7 machine in my home network. could anyone please help?
[05:09] <jastor> snxs: im unsure .. to be honest ;) i havent really touched it since it was called x11.conf or something .. no idea where its stored now :P because my resolution isnt listed in xorg.conf only various mouse/input stuff
[05:09] <KB1JWQ> gardar: Thanks.  What differentiates aptitude from apt-get?
[05:09] <dbook82> ok entered it and the terminal is blank
[05:09] <dbook82> wait...
[05:09] <eycel> can some one help me for a minute?
[05:10] <MrPiracy> dbook82: leave it there ... see if u can find it in places now
[05:10] <dbook82> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[05:10] <dbook82> MrPiracy: negative... nothing else in places
[05:10] <ZykoticK9> dbook82, that means that Ubuntu is not seeing a cdrom attached to /dev/sr0 - which is sorta what i expected
[05:11] <jastor> couldnt just be that the cddrive is empty?
[05:11] <Losha> ZykoticK9: I'm thinking hardware failure at this point...
[05:11] <dbook82> zkotick9: how do i attach?
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> Losha, i have no idea
[05:11] <MrPiracy> dbook82: i never faced such error, i am afraid i cant help any further
[05:12] <Spaztic_One> Losha! remember me from yesterday?
[05:12] <dbook82> hmmm your assistance is appreciated MrPiracy
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> dbook82, you could have a look through "dmesg" and see if you see any mention of your cdrom (especially errors), but it's a lot to comb through if you don't know what you're looking for
[05:12] <Losha> Spaztic_One: it's a pretty unforgettable nick (that's a good thing)
[05:12] <Spaztic_One> =D
[05:12] <jastor> ZykoticK9: grep ,)
[05:12] <dbook82> zkotick9: where is dmesg?
[05:13] <jastor> ZykoticK9: less ;)
[05:13] <eycel> can any one check http://www.mplays.co.cc and tell me how its working in there firefox?
[05:13] <ZykoticK9> jastor, true - but do you know what we should be searching for?  i don't.
[05:13] <Spaztic_One> Well, I am unfortunately still having problems with sound. might you be able to lend a hand?
[05:13] <jastor> ZykoticK9, Losha: my bd drive says the same thing ;) sr0 unknown device .. because i dont have any cd/dvd/bd in it :)
[05:14] <eycel> pew
[05:14] <jastor> so id put hardwarefault in the "less likely" pile
[05:14] <jastor> not saying its not an possiblilit y;)
[05:14] <Losha> jastor: odd, mine says 'no medium found' which is what I'd expect...
[05:14] <snxs> well yes, in my case it is xorg.conf and well im lost im not sure what i should be changing, i know its is on range..
[05:15] <Losha> dbook82: please type: hdparm -i /dev/sr0 and tell us if there's any output...
[05:15] <jastor> Losha: :)
[05:15] <Losha> dbook82: please type: ---> sudo hdparm -i /dev/sr0 and tell us if there's any output...
[05:15] <jastor> Losha: well .. i cant say there is no possible way of it having some sort of fault .. but its working as it should for what i use it for
[05:16] <Spaztic_One> Jastor, that's what she said.
[05:16] <blindclick> just use K3B it works, instead of using all these sudo command stuff
[05:16] <hanasaki> which program launches the pulse audio applet
[05:16] <hanasaki> ?
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> !tab > dbook82
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> dbook82, dmesg is actually a command - it lists out the kernel messages
[05:17] <dbook82> losha: hdio_drive_cmd(identify) failed: invalid exchange, hdio_get_identify failed: no message of desired type
[05:17] <Sumo-Ente> help i lost my login - can only get something if i boot in recoverymode
[05:18] <Debian911> I can't for the life of me find any 'readahead' package in my Ubuntu Server 9.10 install - have I gone made or its not installed with the Server variation? Trying to optimze SSD drives but getting no where
[05:18] <Losha> dbook82: and finally, run dmesg | egrep -i dvd
[05:18] <rsk> Debian911 there's sreadahead and readahead in 9.10
[05:19] <Spaztic_One> Losha, I am still having problems with audio. Do you think you might be able to help?
[05:19] <jastor> ZykoticK9: wait .. looking for what?
[05:19] <jastor> <-- rather distracted
[05:19] <Sumo-Ente> get Ubuntu 9.10 laptop tty1      laptop login:       but where is my graphical desktop
[05:19] <Losha> Spaztic_One: removing pulseaudo was kind of my last shot, since that worked for me, so I dunno what to tell you, apart from the fact that linux is notorious for sound problems...
[05:19] <Debian911> rsk: doing an 'aptitude show'
[05:19] <knoppies> is there a cli command for me to reset my 'gnome panels'?
[05:20] <dbook82> losha: should i type out whats on hte terminal?
[05:20] <jastor> ZykoticK9: cdrom? dmesg | grep sr0
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> jastor, see Losha's comment re dmesg
[05:20] <Debian911> rsk: doing an 'aptitude show' on ethier of those comes up with nothing mate*
[05:20] <Debian911> rsk: Also I believed that ureadahead was meant to be included in latest kernel
[05:20] <hanasaki> any thoughts on what causes this and how to fix?   gdm-simple-slave[7854]: WARNING: Unable to connect to display ::1:9
[05:20] <hmw> i reinstalled, copied back my backup of .wine and want to restore the entries in the WINE menu under "Applications", but  my ICONS are GONE. How can I give the launchers the appropriate icons?
[05:20] <Debian911> but for the life of me cant find what I'm using or how to disable it/edit
[05:20] <Losha> dbook82: ideally, paste it to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com. Failing that, does it even mention your dvd drive?
[05:20] <jastor> ZykoticK9: i get teh same error .. it shows up in dmesg without any warnings .. hdparn -i /dev/sr0 and whatnot works fine .. and i now watch a dvd that has crappier vfx than plan 9 ;)
[05:21] <dbook82> yes it does... matshita dvd-ram
[05:21] <knoppies> !gnomepanel
[05:21] <Spaztic_One> Losha: Ah. It also seems that the remedies for sound problems are somewhat controversial, as numerous people say that removing pulseaudio is good, bad, and some say to leave it be and do something completely different.
[05:21] <jastor> ZykoticK9: so .. sr0 device not found for me (and probably him) = no media in cd/dvd/bddrive .()
[05:21] <jastor> :)
[05:22] <Sumo-Ente> i can't login since it says my login is incorrect - help
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> jastor, i'm guessing it's just using a different device then /dev/sr0
[05:22] <jastor> ZykoticK9: unknown device*
[05:22] <jastor> typed wrong ;)
[05:22] <dbook82> losha: ok should i paste the url to here?
[05:22] <knoppies> Sumo-Ente, I assume you are certain that you are using the correct credentials, that your cum-lock/caps-lock keys are in the right state.
[05:22] <Losha> dbook82: ok, that's good, that means the kernel sees the drive. Yes, please paste the url
[05:22] <knoppies> Sumo-Ente, num-lock, my bad.
[05:22] <dbook82> losha: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ebmaSZXJ
[05:23] <jastor> dbook82: dmesg | grep sr
[05:23] <jastor> hmm
[05:23] <Terry1> gardar, are you available?
[05:24] <Losha> dbook82: that looks ok, and it says your cdrom is on /dev/sr0. Can you put the live cd back in?
[05:25] <Terry1> I have tried to fix "Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'." issue by follow this step from the forum. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554153 However, it hasn't been successful. It still tell me the same error
[05:25] <foul_owl> hey, how do you disable the popups in pidgin
[05:25] <Sumo-Ente> ok i got in - somehow :-) but with just a command prompt - and some msg about errors on update
[05:25] <Debian911> I can't for the life of me find any 'readahead' package in my Ubuntu Server 9.10 install - have I gone made or its not installed with the Server variation? Trying to optimze SSD drives but getting no where - Checking the usual 'sreadahead', 'ureadahead' etc
[05:25] <dbook82> losha: wait one
[05:25] <Mimi> SOUNDCONVERTER | SoundConverter needs python-gstreamer 0.10! |  That thing is installed already! What gives? I've tried reinstalling both soundconverter and p.gst, purging and all.  Please help!
[05:25] <foul_owl> disable the popups in pidgin or rythmbox
[05:25] <Losha> Spaztic_One: there does seem to be a consensus that pulseaudio is buggy in Ubuntu. Did you try removing it?
[05:26] <Spaztic_One> losha, how similar or dissimilar are Karmic and Jaunty in regards to audio and how it handles it?
[05:26] <Spaztic_One> I did, and I think that was part of what made things worse
[05:26] <Spaztic_One> IE, the control panel coudn't load up.
[05:26] <Spaztic_One> couldn't*
[05:26] <theadmin> IE? Internet Explorer? What?
[05:26] <Losha> Spaztic_One: I've never run jaunty. I've only run hardy and karmic. Which are you running?
[05:26] <Spaztic_One> Also, pardon the Windows Terminology.
[05:27] <dbook82> losha: ok live dvd is back in hte drive
[05:27] <Spaztic_One> and theadmin, IE meaning "In Example"
[05:27] <Terry1> lol
[05:27] <theadmin> Spaztic_One: I've ran jaunty if the problem is version-specific, might help
[05:27] <Losha> dbook82: ok, once more with feeling. sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/tmp.  Watch your spaces!!
[05:27] <Terry1> Is there anybody available to help me with the nvidia problem?
[05:27] <Spaztic_One> I wouldn't dare say IE as in the portal for suckage and virii.
[05:28] <Spaztic_One> Also, Losha, I am running Karmic
[05:28] <Losha> Spaztic_One: so, you removed pulseaudio and have no sound at all still?
[05:28] <Spaztic_One> And TheAdmin, what do you mean?
[05:29] <theadmin> Spaztic_One: Well, Losha claimed you run Jaunty and he never did run that, i did so i thought i might help
[05:29] <Spaztic_One> Losha, correct. It is currently installed as with it removed I couldn't access any of the controls for which device my system was using
[05:29] <Sumo-Ente> knoppies, Thanks - i just need to start the graphical interface - i do not know anything else
[05:30] <dbook82> losha: mkdir: cannot create directory '/mnt/tmp': file exists, mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[05:30] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: Does "startx" work?
[05:30] <Spaztic_One> theadmin: I am not running Janunty, but I am checking on a forum ( techguy.org ) to see if they have any previously solved issues similar to mine.
[05:30] <theadmin> And what's "sr"?
[05:30] <Losha> Spaztic_One: sorry, you've exhausted my knowledge (what little of it there is). In your place, I would remove pulseaudio (again) and run alsamixer to configure playback...
[05:30] <Mimi> theadmin, it's a CD or a Virtual CD
[05:30] <Mimi> theadmin,  (or dvd, sorry ;;)
[05:31] <illyume> http://jlschaffer.bluezone.usu.edu/laptopspecs.html --- at the very bottom of the page. Why can't I get Ubuntu to talk to this card? x.x
[05:31] <theadmin> Mimi: Err, huh, i mean, my CD drive is at /dev/scd0
[05:31] <Sumo-Ente> is says startx is not installed ????
[05:31] <Spaztic_One> Losha, alrighty. I'll try that. The command is what, sudo apt-get remove [or should I do purge?] pulseaudio
[05:31] <Losha> dbook82: ok, running out of options. Last desperate attempt, take out the dvd, power cycle the system, making sure it powers down fully to reset the hardware, then try again...
[05:31] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: It probably means you have NO graphical environment there. Install the ubuntu-desktop package (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[05:32] <dbook82> losha: ok will do in a moment, gotta send an email
[05:33] <Terry1> Can anyone help me with this problem please? Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' I have been getting that every time I reboot the machine but it won't allow me to save the setting of how I want my monitors to be
[05:33] <Sumo-Ente> well - sudo is not found ???
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> Terry1, are you using Nvidia?
[05:34] <Terry1> Yes I am
[05:34] <Losha> Spaztic_One: it's in here somewhere: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[05:34] <tamran> can anyone please give me the rundown on getting pulseaudio working in Kubuntu 9.10?
[05:34] <Terry1> I have followed this instruction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554153
[05:34] <tamran> nobody is in kubuntu channel
[05:34] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: Wait. What do you see on your screen?
[05:35] <hohosr> Alright I have been trying to get my wireless driver to power up my video card for 5 hours now. Any help would be more than appreciated. Intel pro/wireless 2100
[05:35] <Spaztic_One> Losha *sigh* it seems as if I am fighting a losing battle. Each step doesn't seem to help (for long anyway), and it seems as if it makes it harder for the next person I ask.
[05:35] <hohosr> Complete noob
[05:36] <Terry1> ZykoticK9, is there something I am missing?
[05:37] <theadmin> It seems i'm the only one who has no problems with sound, wireless, graphics, display... only the mic... Strange
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> Terry1, are you also getting a "failed to parse" error in nvidia-settings when you try to save?
[05:37] <hohosr> Well I just finally got my ethernet to work today
[05:37] <Terry1> No
[05:37] <Sumo-Ente> after prompt: E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[05:37] <hohosr> My wireless really does not wanna go
[05:37] <Sumo-Ente> then askes if i am root
[05:38] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: I mean, the prompt, does it state "root@someplace:~#" or "user@someplace:~$"?
[05:38] <dbook82> losha: this is crazy... ubuntu even recognizes the sd card from my phone!!!
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> Terry1, sorry lost internet there - are you getting the failed to parse?
[05:39] <Sumo-Ente> user@someplace:/$
[05:39] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: Hm, weird.
[05:39] <nareshsankapelly> hello evey one
[05:39] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: No, he is not
[05:39] <nareshsankapelly> I'm new hre
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, thanks
[05:39] <Losha> Spaztic_One: I sympathize. If it's any consolation, I had no better luck on Fedora or Debian...
[05:39] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: Hello. If you have any support questions, please ask straight away
[05:40] <nareshsankapelly> thnx..:)
[05:40] <Lovecraft_X> brb!
[05:40] <Sumo-Ente> if i boot the machine i get the ubuntu logo shortly then just a underscore in left upper corner for a loooooong time - if i boot to rcovery i end here
[05:41] <Spaztic_One> losha, Ah, yeah. Also, how do I make sure that my system is trying to output through the correct device? I ran alsamixer and set everything (except the mux or whatever that one is) to full, and I am still getting nothing.
[05:41] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: Hm... Can you try running fsck from a live CD?
[05:41] <hohosr> When i ran a command to test my wireless card it came back with a 0 meaning the device is switched off. I am on a laptop and there is non external switch. The Fn command does not work it as expected. Any ideas?
[05:41] <Sumo-Ente> there was a lot of fsck errors it tried to repair before this happend - i will try to run from live cd
[05:42] <Mimi> Hmmm... spend our 5th yr anniversary with my husband, or play with Lucid beta? Hmm... tough choice...
[05:42] <Losha> Spaztic_One: make sure you set anything labelled Master and anything labelled PCM to maximum and that they're not muted (m key, shows 00 at the bottom)...
[05:42] <Spaztic_One> Mimi, oh spend it with your husband.
[05:42] <Sumo-Ente> well shutdown now wnat me to be root - i guess i just need to be bad and power off on the awitch
[05:43] <Spaztic_One> losha, done that too.
[05:43] <Losha> dbook82: ok, try and mount the live cd again...
[05:43] <Spaztic_One> losha, wait, when its muted it shows the 00, or does it show the MM?
[05:43] <Losha> Spaztic_One: do you know what chipset your audio is. Maybe it's truly incompatible? MM means muted...
[05:45] <Losha> Mimi: according to my mother, the first 30 years of marriage are the most difficult...
[05:45] <theadmin> I'm getting choppy audio playback while starting new apps, any idea?
[05:45] <Spaztic_One> Losha, surely one of the three audio handlers would be compatable? Besides, it was working the other day, would have worked at all if it was incompatable?
[05:45] <magicjoe> is there a channel for yaboot help?
[05:46] <Mimi> Losha,  hehe, it's good to know that there's light at the end of the tunnel LOL jk jk. :)   well, it's just I've been waiting for beta for so long, I'm really excited about Ubuntu *rolls eyes* Plus, husband is *never& at my birthday because he has annual training for the military! LOl
[05:46] <Out_Cold> magicjoe, are you in #yaboot?
[05:47] <Losha> Spaztic_One: the fact that it worked for a while is a good sign, but sound suddenly stopping working *is* one of the complaints I see here...
[05:47] <an0nym0us> hey there
[05:47] <nareshsankapelly> i'm new here ..using URC in Pidgin
[05:47] <yanuzico260191> hi
[05:47] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: You mean "IRC", right?
[05:47] <dum> how do i link to a static library source files so that i can step through the code from my application (which utilizes the library)
[05:47] <nareshsankapelly> interested to use IRC in Xchat-gnome
[05:48] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: And what seems to be the problem?
[05:48] <Out_Cold> xchat-gnome is garbage.. use just xchat
[05:48] <nareshsankapelly> threadadmin: yes
[05:48] <darolu> Mimi: if you are considering to play with Lucid instead of spending a night with your husband on your 5th anniversary seriously, you should start looking for a good divorce lawyer =P
[05:48] <nareshsankapelly> I have problem with xchat
[05:48] <nareshsankapelly> it's not getting installed
[05:48] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, what problem?
[05:48] <Out_Cold> how are you trying to install?
[05:48] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: Just a quick check, HOW do you install it?
[05:49] <nareshsankapelly> system
[05:49] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: have you tried to install it via command line to see if it prints an error?
[05:49] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: Huh? System?
[05:49] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, got to be more specific than 'system'
[05:49] <Mimi> darolu, I was being silly :P Ofc I'll spend it with him, thought I might be daydreaming about ubuntu :D     Oh well, I'm sure he daydreams when he's with me too :P
[05:49] <nareshsankapelly> system->administration->synaptic software manager
[05:50] <Sumo-Ente> how can i be root under the live cd
[05:50] <theadmin> nareshsankapelly: So, you went there, marked it for installation and clicked "Apply", right?
[05:50] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, try opening a terminal and typing sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:50] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: sudo -i
[05:50] <nareshsankapelly> yes
[05:50] <darolu> Sumo-Ente: sudo su or what theadmin said
[05:50] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, make sure you close the other software application first
[05:50] <dum> i'm linking to the avahi library, but i want to step into the avahi code from my application..
[05:51] <nareshsankapelly> yes
[05:51] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, did it say it installed?
[05:51] <nareshsankapelly> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:51] <nareshsankapelly>   xchat: Depends: libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.7) but it is not going to be installed
[05:51] <nareshsankapelly> E: Broken packages
[05:51] <darolu> Mimi: I'm glad to read it :) enjoy your night, you can play with Lucid instead having a cigarette ;)
[05:51] <nareshsankapelly> I'm getting the above messages
[05:51] <basncy> `a darolu
[05:51] <[[thufir]]> coz_: cannot play this file:  http://www.speedyshare.com/files/21474582/file2018451-replay323-1.avi
[05:52] <dbook82> Losha: nothing. drive is still not recognized...
[05:52] <Sumo-Ente> theadmin: i get -bash: /dev/sda1: Permission deneied
[05:52] <defli> hi
[05:52] <coz_> [[thufir]],  ok hold on let me download that
[05:52] <theadmin> Sumo-Ente: What are you trying to do?
[05:52] <defli> i am using ubuntu 10.04 alpha 3
[05:52] <coz_> [[thufir]],  I know it wont play in the browser so hold on
[05:52] <coz_> [[thufir]],  i want to examine the file
[05:53] <Sumo-Ente> fsck
[05:53] <Spaztic_One> losha... I think I'm going to hurt something.
[05:53] <defli> i dont run ubuntu one
[05:53] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, try sudo apt-get -f install xchat
[05:53] <nareshsankapelly> Out_Cold: when i install using command line i'm getting messages like xchat: Depends: libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.7) but it is not going to be installed
[05:53] <Spaztic_One> Losha: Probably the sound card.
[05:53] <[[thufir]]> coz_: thanks.  pword:  levanohunuso
[05:53] <Losha> dbook82: is it a laptop?
[05:53] <dbook82> yes it is
[05:53] <Losha> Spaztic_One: sorry, dunno what to tell you....
[05:54] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, what is the release you are using of ubuntu?
[05:54] <nareshsankapelly> Out_Cold: still getting the same
[05:54] <blindclick> sudo jtr aghhhhhh
[05:54] <Spaztic_One> Losha: No, cause I got it working on my onboard sound again. I don't even know how really.
[05:54] <nareshsankapelly> Out_Cold: 8.04
[05:54] <Losha> dbook82: unfortunate, I'm back to suspecting the dvd drive is faulty somehow...
[05:54] <neptunepink> What package would I install to get manpages for C's stdlib?
[05:54] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: execute "sudo apt-get check" print your results
[05:54] <darolu> pastebin*
[05:54] <dbook82> the drive works just fine when i'm running windows
[05:55] <Spaztic_One> Losha: I followed what the site said to reinstall it and stuff, and when it wouldn't play though my sound card, I switched to my onboard, and lo and behold, it works.
[05:55] <Losha> dbook82: sorry, I'm out of ideas. Maybe someone else can help?
[05:55] <Spaztic_One> Losha Reinstall Pulseaudio that is
[05:55] <nareshsankapelly> darolu: getting the same problem of dependencies
[05:56] <dbook82> appreciate the help losha... i shall try again later
[05:56] <Out_Cold> nareshsankapelly, you need to fix the library dependancy.. i'm heading to bed though. the older release is maybe using an old repo
[05:56] <Losha> Spaztic_One: the trouble with not knowing what fixed it is, it might break again. Oh well, at least you have a workaround for the moment...
[05:56] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: does it tell you what package is damaged or missing?
[05:56] <neptunepink> manpages-dev, perhaps?
[05:56]  * Losha is drawing zero for zero tonight...
[05:56] <neptunepink> yes, that looks like it, excellennt...
[05:56] <nareshsankapelly> darolu: yes it's libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.7
[05:56] <gnychis> does Ubuntu have a firewall running by default?
[05:56] <Spaztic_One> Losha: yes. I'll just have to never shut down / log out from my machine. =)
[05:56]  * dbook82 pats losha on the back
[05:56] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: you need to remove and then reinstall libperl5.8
[05:56] <coz_> [[thufir]],  this is going to take another 3 minutes or so to download so hold on
[05:57] <dbook82> its all good
[05:57] <nareshsankapelly> darolu: ok
[05:57] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: sudo apt-get remove --purge libperl5.8 then when it is gone sudo apt-get install libperl5.8
[05:57] <Sumo-Ente> theadmin: if i do it from the system - administration - disk utility     i get no errors
[05:57] <[[thufir]]> coz_: I know, big file.
[05:58] <hDy> this is a pretty noob question, but once I make && make install a program I can delete the source right?
[05:58] <dbook82> do we have a fan of dune in the room?
[05:58] <theadmin> hDy: Yep
[05:58] <coz_> [[thufir]], you might want to get a free dropbox account
[05:59] <dbook82> this should be an easy question. how do i access sessions so i can add to programs to the startup?
[05:59] <nareshsankapelly>  darolu: depends perl-base
[05:59] <[[thufir]]> dbook82: session?  I think see perl, java, tomcat, etc.  no?
[05:59] <hohosr> Alright I have been trying to get my wireless driver to power up my video card for 5 hours now. Any help would be more than appreciated. Intel pro/wireless 2100
[06:00] <[[thufir]]> dbook82: what's your container?  do they have a channel?
[06:00] <nareshsankapelly>  darolu: I have tried to install libperl5.8 but it depends on perl-baase
[06:00] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: did you get that when you tried to install the library or when you removed it?
[06:00] <dbook82> thufir: so i can have compiz and conky run at start up. and is your nick based on thufir hawat?
[06:01] <nareshsankapelly> when I tried to install
[06:01] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: install perl-base then, or if you wish, install xchat directly and should install all the packages you need, do it with: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:01] <nareshsankapelly> darolu:But perl-base is installed in my system
[06:02] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: try installing xchat directly, it should install the perl library you manually uninstalled
[06:03] <Sumo-Ente> i get clean when i run the fsck
[06:04] <nareshsankapelly> darolu: No, it's not installing itself
[06:04] <nareshsankapelly> darolu: I'm getting the same problem
[06:05] <coz_> [[thufir]],  no luck with that video here either/...it is reporting the same error   applicatoin/zip-decoder plugin not installed
[06:05] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: if you did remove the library, "sudo apt-get -f xchat" should work, you may need to run sudo apt-get update first
[06:05] <[[thufir]]> coz_: and there's no such plugin or codec, right?
[06:05] <[[thufir]]> coz_: can you "force" that file to try another codec?
[06:06] <Copperred> Hello.....anyone know how to complete delete and/or wipe the main calendar in Evolution so I may start a new one fresh?
[06:06] <coz_> [[thufir]],  I am trying hold on
[06:06] <nareshsankapelly>  darolu: thanks a lot
[06:07] <darolu> nareshsankapelly: np
[06:07] <coz_> [[thufir]],  no luck
[06:07] <coz_> [[thufir]],  go to the ##linux channel and tell them there the error ..maybe they have a solution
[06:07] <[[thufir]]> coz_: ok, thanks for trying.  how do you try to force it, out of curiosity?
[06:07] <X-Frog> is there a huge difference between ubuntu and osx
[06:07] <iceroot> X-Frog: yes
[06:07] <illyume> Yes. >.>
[06:07] <[[thufir]]> X-Frog: not so much if you're using the CLI.
[06:07] <darolu> X-Frog: yes, MacOSX is based on BSD, not Linux
[06:08] <iceroot> X-Frog: one is linux, the other is bsd
[06:08] <coz_> [[thufir]],  I was just chaning the format on the file is all
[06:08] <Copperred> Hello.....anyone know how to complete delete and/or wipe the main calendar in Evolution so I may start a new one fresh?
[06:08] <X-Frog> iceroot, was wondering...was thinking about getting macbook...but if its a huge learning curve ill keep the laptop i have
[06:09] <darolu> X-Frog: they do have a lot in common though, some programs can be -relatively easy- ported from linux to osx
[06:09] <X-Frog> they are kinda pricey tho
[06:09] <[[thufir]]> they're more similar than dissimar, not to flame, but for clarity that should be said.
[06:10] <[[thufir]]> coz_: ok, thanks for the try :)
[06:10] <darolu> yeah they are pricey, their software is not cheap, uhmmm you can use a terminal there, that helps, it comes with Vi installed by default :p
[06:10] <coz_> [[thufir]], ok let me know if you find a solution for this :)
[06:11] <X-Frog> :) my wife likes the apple look...she says they are cute....i thought it was just a paid version of linux.
[06:11] <X-Frog> i personally like ubuntu over everything else....plus im fond of open source
[06:12] <iceroot> X-Frog: buy a macbook with intel-cpu and install ubuntu on it
[06:12] <darolu> X-Frog: they are good, MacOSX has UNIX certification I think, if you have the money go for it, if you get tired of OSX you can always install Ubuntu on them
[06:12] <[[thufir]]> coz_: I think it's a windows virus.  I might try that software from http://jjpeg.com/flv.html just to see.
[06:12] <X-Frog> iceroot, i could dual boot...she would be happy and i  could still have my ubuntu...good idea
[06:12] <iceroot> X-Frog: yes or dualboot
[06:13] <coz_> [[thufir]],  frankly i wouldnt bother with this file...if it doesnt run on linux then its just a no go from my perspective
[06:14] <[3]nertia> How do I figure out which version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[06:14] <Copperred> Hello.....anyone know how to complete delete and/or wipe the main calendar in Evolution so I may start a new one fresh?
[06:14] <darolu> X-Frog: I have one (well the wife) and I can recommend them, iPhoto is amazing, the face recognition feature is really neat.
[06:15] <darolu> [3]nertia: open a terminal and type "uname -a"
[06:15] <[3]nertia> lol
[06:15] <darolu> :p
[06:15] <[3]nertia> Linux box 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:15] <theadmin> Why the heck does the output of "apt-cache search xchat" contain "pidgin-plugin-pack"?
[06:15] <[3]nertia> I don't think that really applies, does it?
[06:15] <[3]nertia> I mean it shows the kernel version =/
[06:15] <[3]nertia> #45-Ubuntu
[06:16] <zebastian> anyone use lxde here? i'm using hardy and everytime i log out when i log back in the desktop picture ive chosen is not there and the desktop picture option is unchecked on the desktop properties
[06:16] <X-Frog> darolu, is it pretty easy for newbies.....she gets frustrated if u cant just point and clik....i have to keep windows box for her
[06:16] <[3]nertia> Is that what I'm looking for =/
[06:16] <jbob> [3]nertia: cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:16] <theadmin> jbob: what for, i mean, you can just do "lsb_release -r", right?
[06:17] <[3]nertia> theadmin: Yeah lol
[06:17] <[3]nertia> /exec <3
[06:17] <darolu> X-Frog: MacOSX is really easy to use for the newbies, it may take her a while to get used to it if she uses Windows but in general is easier to use than any OS I've ever used
[06:17] <mardum> i am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on amd64 - the installer is giving a msg about 'no mountable filesystem media' or similar.  so it boots from there into "ash" and I can mount filesystems fine... dmesg says all media recognized just fine.  I don't need an ext4 part or ntfs or something weird, right?
[06:17] <jbob> theadmin: my version also give the codename
[06:17] <[3]nertia> Thanks guys/gals/whatever
[06:17] <darolu> X-Frog: and it will be good for you too as it is harder to screw the system up :P
[06:18] <theadmin> jbob: Yeah and some other stuff... Hm... !lsb_release --short --codename && lsb_release -r
[06:18] <Darkyyy> there's no place like /home/
[06:18] <theadmin> jbob: Damn this stupid plugin only works in the beginning of a message
[06:18] <rww> theadmin: what stupid plugin?
[06:18] <darolu> [3]nertia: 2.6.28 kernel was used in Unbuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope"
[06:19] <theadmin> rww: Pidgin "exec" plugin, is supposed to execute a command whenever i type "/exec command" or "!command"
[06:19] <theadmin> rww: And parse the output into the message
[06:20] <dum> eish... so no ideas.. :(
[06:20] <mardum> am I not using a proper installation media?  I downloaded the 9.10 iso and am booting from cd...
[06:21] <theadmin> mardum: No, this has to be the right one
[06:21] <mardum> for a single disk, ow should it be partitioned going in?
[06:21] <mardum> s/ow/how
[06:21] <iceroot> theadmin: beacuse apt-cache search is searching the package-name AND the description, so apt-cache show pidgin-plugin-pack is containing the string xchat
[06:22] <theadmin> iceroot: "pidgin-plugin-pack - 42 useful plugins for Pidgin"... Not a single x
[06:22] <mardum> or shouldn't it matter and my problem is something else...
[06:22] <simula> can anyone see a problem in my karmic udev rule (it's not launching my script) -> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", KERNEL=="sd*", ACTION=="add", PROGRAM="/usr/local/bin/backup_n900 %k"
[06:22] <iceroot> theadmin:  XChat Chats: makes Pidgin use the chat-widget (GtkXText) used by XChat for chats
[06:23] <theadmin> iceroot: Oh.
[06:23] <iceroot> theadmin: as i said, apt-cache show pidgin-plugin-pack
[06:23] <Darkyyy> i need help
[06:23] <Darkyyy> i encountered a bug
[06:23] <iceroot> theadmin: in the description
[06:23] <iceroot> !bug | Darkyyy
[06:23] <Darkyyy> i switched my ubuntu language from hebrew to english
[06:24] <Darkyyy> and the desktop folder is still in hebrew
[06:24] <dum> this is one harsh environment..
[06:24] <Darkyyy> but all the others are back in english
[06:24] <dum> :(
[06:26] <eycel> can some one help me for a minute
[06:26] <dum> eycel: i've been trying to get some one to help me.. but these guys aint close to nice
[06:26] <dum> :(
[06:26] <eycel> i lov eit here
[06:26] <darolu> !ask
[06:26] <eycel> they were very helpful earlier
[06:26] <Darkyyy> so how do i config ubuntu to use the "Desktop" folder again ?
[06:27] <eycel> what do u need dum?
[06:27] <dum> ubottu: i will believe it when i see it
[06:27] <robertzaccour> is kde wallet really necessary to use in kde?
[06:27] <mardum> so when you guys installed your ubuntu, did you partition your disk beforehand?  Does the disk have to be empty or have an empty primary partition?  Or does it not matter?
[06:27] <robertzaccour> ubottu who made you?
[06:28] <Flannel> ubottu: tell robertzaccour about yourself
[06:28] <dum> eycel: was trying to get help stepping into library source code
[06:28] <darolu> mardum: the short answer is it doesn't matter, you can configure your hard disk the way you want it through the installation process.
[06:28] <Darkyyy> so how do i config ubuntu to use the "Desktop" folder again ?
[06:28] <robertzaccour> ubottu: tell Flannel about yourself
[06:29] <robertzaccour> is kde wallet really necessary to use?
[06:29] <eycel> id like it if some one could check my website for me http://www.mplays.co.cc and tell me if its working with firefox
[06:29] <Darkyyy> omg guys this is really weird can please anyone help
[06:29] <darolu> !patience > Darkyyy
[06:30] <robertzaccour> is konqueror a better default browser than firefox and chrome?
[06:30] <dum> eycel: your site seems fine to me
[06:30] <simula> has anyone here written custom udev rules for karmic?
[06:30] <eycel> cool
[06:30] <eycel> what kinda help did u need with source?
[06:30] <Darkyyy> robert__, no , but chrome is
[06:30] <simula> i'm trying to automatically backup the files on my n900 when it is automounted
[06:30] <mardum> darolu: I figured as much, my disk is a maxtor 120G sharing an IDE controller with a sony dvdrw drive.  BIOS recognizes fine; what do I do?  Try 9.04 or something?
[06:30] <dum> eycel: well that on firefox 3.6.. dont think it will be any bad with older versions though
[06:30] <elhim> there should be a driver for it
[06:31] <robertzaccour> how come the buttons on the windows aren't on the left side like in gnome?
[06:31] <eycel> ok dum thanks
[06:31] <Xdept> Hi there, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu's Remote Desktop... I have two computers infront of me running Ubuntu (one on 8.10 and the other on 9.10) I can connect from one to the other and get an initial screenshot and i can see the mouse moving but nothing comes up on the remote desktop window, Any Ideas ?????
[06:31] <darolu> robertzaccour: Konqueror is good; no one can tell you if it is better or not, what is best or better for me, can be not the best/better for you, use them all and make a choice according to your likings/needs
[06:31] <mardum> elhim: the maxtor drive?  It's pretty standard fare...
[06:32] <darolu> mardum: you can try with any version, it shouldn't be a problem if it is sharing IDE controller with your cd burner or not
[06:32] <dbook82> thanks for the help all I'm off to bed, got school in the morning, but i'll be back to see if we can find an answer to my problem, night!
[06:33] <Xdept> Hi there, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu's Remote Desktop... I have two computers infront of me running Ubuntu (one on 8.10 and the other on 9.10) I can connect from one to the other and get an initial screenshot and i can see the mouse moving but nothing comes up on the remote desktop window, Any Ideas ?????
[06:33] <darolu> eycel: your website works fine, it is just kinda heavy
[06:35] <operaatoors> Hiya! I have problem that Netbeans is not running anymore at all, and i think, it happend after, when I installed java on my machine. Is there any, who could help me with that?
[06:38] <Xdept> Is there anyone from Ubuntu Here ?
[06:38] <mardum> i suppose I'll try the older reselase  and see if anything changes.  If that doesn't work I'm going to try this 6.06 disk I have just for nostalgia...
[06:38] <rww> Xdept: Why?
[06:39] <darolu> mardum: just remember that older versions don't support ext4, some don't even support ext3 :p
[06:39] <frank_b> I can't find a solution to this on the web... does anyone here know how can I "burn" a windows iso image to an sd card? (from within ubuntu)
[06:39] <rww> darolu: all version of Ubuntu support ext3
[06:39] <rww> versions **
[06:39] <Xdept> Because, I want to know if this is filled with a bunch of gumbys like me
[06:40] <rww> Xdept: there are Ubuntu developers and members in this channel, yes
[06:40] <Xdept> Ok, do you know how many ?
[06:41] <rww> Xdept: "/who ubuntu/member/*" in my IRC client returns more than I care to count.
[06:42] <rww> There are plenty of people in here that are regular community members that know as much as and more than Ubuntu members, though, so if you have a question or problem, it's fine to just ask it :)
[06:42] <Xdept> I asked one about Remote Desktop before, but no one replied
[06:43] <Xdept> Maybe it's a really stupid question
[06:43] <tauren> it seems that there is no value for $USER when processes in a user crontab file run. is that correct?
[06:43] <Flannel> tauren: Because user crontabs are run by the user, correct.
[06:43] <rww> Xdept: If nobody knows the answer, nobody will answer you. It tends to help if you repeat the question every 15 minutes or so, and search ubuntuforums.org to see if anyone else has had the problem while you wait
[06:44] <makiss> is there any other non-official flash plugin for ff?
[06:44] <darolu> Xdept: patience is a virtue, I remember reading your question not long ago; remember if no one knows your answer at the time, no one will answer, wait a few more minutes and ask again
[06:44] <rww> (or help.ubuntu.com)
[06:44] <rww> makiss: There are two, swfdec and gnash. They tend to have problems dealing with a lot of flash content though, in my experience.
[06:44] <ranjan> Xdept, hi..whats the problem
[06:44] <tauren> Flannel: hmm, it still seems like it should be there. I have a script that is called in my crontab that has $USER in it. Oh well..
[06:45] <Flannel> tauren: Oh, you mean the environment variable itself?
[06:45] <tauren> yup
[06:45] <Flannel> tauren: If I remember correctly, you're supposed to assume you have no environment variables when doing anything with crontab
[06:46] <makiss> rww: thank you  i will try them
[06:46] <ranjan> Xdept, are you using the remote desktop viewer or any other software>>
[06:46] <_GoRDoN_> How much space does dpkg need to install new kernelpackages. I've ~400mb and it is complaining that there is no space left on device.
[06:46] <tauren> Flannel, ahh, that might be the case. ok, thanks!
[06:46] <Xdept> ranjan, Just stock Ubuntu stuff
[06:46] <ranjan> Xdept, just can u explain the situation there?/
[06:47] <ranjan> Xdept, is it connected with a cross cable??
[06:47] <Xdept> I have a network
[06:47] <ranjan> Xdept, is it in LAN??
[06:47] <Xdept> Yes
[06:47] <ranjan> Xdept, what about the IP?? can you ping between them??
[06:47] <Xdept> I have firewalls, servers etc etc
[06:48] <Xdept> Yes
[06:48] <ranjan> Xdept, firewall you means iptables isnt it??
[06:48] <Xdept> No, like, Physical firewall
[06:48] <Xdept> Kind of.... It's a little box
[06:49] <ranjan> Xdept, oh...so i think you know the restrictions set on the firewall
[06:49] <Xdept> Does ubuntu have a firewall though ?
[06:49] <Xdept> If so how do i get rid of it
[06:49] <ranjan> Xdept, ubuntu does have but disabled
[06:49] <Xdept> Good.
[06:50] <Xdept> Okay so,
[06:50] <Xdept> I have two computers
[06:50] <ranjan> Xdept, so..what is happening when you connect between each other??
[06:50] <Xdept> One on 9.10 and one on 8.10
[06:50] <ranjan> Xdept, ok
[06:50] <Xdept> Connect to the one with 9.10
[06:50] <EzeQL> hi
[06:51] <Xdept> And then the initial screen is fine
[06:51] <EzeQL> anybody from some country on europe can thell me the price of diesel?
[06:51] <Xdept> I can move the mouse and it moves on the other screen
[06:51] <Xdept> but when i click nothing happens
[06:51] <Xdept> Like it's not refreshing the image
[06:51] <ranjan> Xdept, oh...then what about the preferences??
[06:52] <ranjan> Xdept, have set the correct preferences
[06:52] <rww> ubottu: ot | EzeQL
[06:52] <EzeQL> anybody please?
[06:52] <EzeQL> rww, i know.
[06:52] <EzeQL> its ajust a friendly question.
[06:52] <rww> EzeQL: then go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <EzeQL> oki
[06:52] <Xdept> ranjan, Would it not be connecting if i had the wrong preferences?
[06:53] <ranjan> Xdept, actually the default preference is only for viewing the screen...not for controlling the screne
[06:53] <eycel> can any one tell me if my site http://www.mplays.co.cc is working in firefox?
[06:53] <sleptsova`nemess> deutschen Jugendlichen in privat
[06:53] <sleptsova`nemess> deutschen Jugendlichen in privat
[06:53] <sleptsova`nemess> deutschen Jugendlichen in privat
[06:53] <FloodBot1> sleptsova`nemess: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Xdept> ranjan, Oh, hang on i'll check
[06:53] <ranjan> Xdept, ok
[06:54] <eycel> pshh
[06:54]  * rww high-fives FloodBot1 
[06:54] <Xdept> ranjan, the preference has been set right,
[06:55] <ranjan> Xdept, oh,, then...actually can u see the remote screen now also??
[06:56] <Xdept> When i connect, i can see what is on the other screen at that time, but like i goto move a screen and it doesn't refresh the image
[06:57] <nore> hi everybody! recently i bought wacom bamboo pen. my ubuntu studio lsusb command sees it, but it doesn't work. how can i get it worked? thanx!
[06:58] <foul_owl> hey, how do i disable the popups in pidgin
[06:58] <ranjan> Xdept, sorry ..:(
[06:58] <foul_owl> and ryhthm box
[06:58] <Xdept> ranjan, No Problem :D
[06:59] <ranjan> Xdept, let me try ...i hope i will find a solution
[06:59] <tarelerulz> I have a Nexus One and I turned on mount feature on the phone itself. When I got into Banshee I don't see the phone at all.  What can I do to fix that or other program for that?
[06:59] <Xdept> ranjan, Sure :)
[07:01] <oliver_> Hi can anyone help me with my voice chat on Gyachi?
[07:01] <tarelerulz>  /join #banshee
[07:02] <oliver_> Anyone know where to get the missing files for voice chat on Gyachi?
[07:02] <root> hi
[07:03] <Guest56063> hi
[07:03] <oliver_> Can anyone help me with this?
[07:03] <Guest56063> what
[07:03] <tarelerulz> Oliver, gyachi never seem to work well enough to use all the time For me that is.  To get true voice chat function I had to do virtualbox and install xp and yahoo messenger. Then it worked great and did not really run up my cpu much at all
[07:03] <mohadib> howdy
[07:03] <vap0r> Robert Pattinson dies at the end of Remember Me? In the TWIN TOWERS?
[07:04] <rww> ubottu: ot | vap0r
[07:04] <mohadib> is it possible to normalize volume for all sounds?
[07:04] <Guest56063> please   can anyone help me
[07:04] <vap0r> sorry
[07:04] <oliver_> tarel how do you install a virtual box?
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> What package is responsible for displaying messages like "The program 'tudu' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install tudu" when you type a console command, for a program that is not currently installed?
[07:04] <rww> ZykoticK9: command-not-found, I think
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks
[07:05] <rww> Guest56063: Go ahead and ask your question to the channel, all on one line, and find out :)
[07:06] <aleksil> Hello.
[07:06] <aleksil> Seems like the latest upgrade broke my desktop.
[07:07] <aleksil> There are no icons, but the files are still present in my Desktop directory.
[07:07] <mohadib> look at the settings
[07:07] <mohadib> and make sure they are supposed to be shown on the desktop
[07:08] <mohadib> you can enable/disable that
[07:08] <humphreybc> hello, can anyone help me... I want to make an image a hyperlink on the wiki
[07:08] <aleksil> They did until the last reboot.
[07:08] <mlkovacs> Does anyone know how to autologin the keyring  when I login to my desktop? its very annoying.
[07:08] <rww> mlkovacs: Do you login to the desktop automatically, or do you need to give your username and password when you start up?
[07:08] <aleksil> Where exactly do I find the appropriate options?
[07:09] <ki___> Hello. I have a segfault, and i've gotten to the point of allowing Core Dumps, and obtaining a core dump to investigate the cause of the segfault, but this is the first time i've had to do something like this and I'm looking for how to interpret the results that 'gdb' gave when analyzing the core dump file.
[07:09] <mohadib> i dont use gnome, so im not sure off hand aleksil
[07:09] <mlkovacs> Automatially
[07:09] <aleksil> Also, nautilus won't work.
[07:10] <rww> mlkovacs: The only way you'd be able to unlock the keyring without the password is by changing your keyring's password to be blank. This is insecure, because it means anyone with access to your computer can get information from it, but I can give you instructions if that's what you want.
[07:10] <rww> ubottu: pm | mlkovacs
[07:11] <aleksil> I click, say, Desktop in the Places menu, it loads a while, then nothing.
[07:11] <mlkovacs> So If I dont login automatically it wont prompt for a password for the keyring is that correct?
[07:11] <rww> mlkovacs: correct. If you turn off autologin, you'll get asked to login by the GDM login manager, which will pass that password to the keyring manager (assuming they're the same password).
[07:12] <aleksil> Is nautilus supposed to show up as "Uninterruptible" in the system monitor?
[07:12] <mlkovacs> OK thanks
[07:12] <ranjan> Xdept, hey..try disabling your desktop effect on your target machine
[07:13] <ManDay> Is there a way to associate a file with VIM like I would with gedit WITHOUT creating an aditional script for running vim in cmd?
[07:13] <Error404NotFound> i can't click any confirmation buttons like Ok, Finish in eclipse, it works on another machine but not mine, also tried to switch java from openjdk to sun-jdk
[07:13] <Xdept> ranjan, all of it ?
[07:13] <Xdept> *All of them
[07:13] <ranjan> Xdept, i mean switch to no effects
[07:13] <ranjan> Xdept, in preference
[07:14] <ranjan> Xdept, backup the effects if you have done many tweaks
[07:14] <ranjan> :)
[07:14] <Xdept> ranjan, it works, but REALLY slowly
[07:14] <c4rp3nt3r> hi
[07:14] <darolu> ManDay: try with GVim, the gui for vim
[07:15] <ManDay> no darolu
[07:15] <c4rp3nt3r> i wanna setting my ip
[07:15] <ManDay> well, that would be okay but i just want to run vim in a terminal
[07:15] <c4rp3nt3r> who can help me~~~~~~~~~~~
[07:15] <Xdept> ranjan, i'm running on a 100 megabit Internal Network with both the computers having gigabit
[07:15] <c4rp3nt3r> eeeee
[07:15] <Xdept> And they are both core 2 duos
[07:16] <Xdept> So... not slow...
[07:16] <c4rp3nt3r> This is my first time here~~~
[07:17] <ZykoticK9> ManDay, i can certainly understand why this would be handy, but i doubt it's possible to do directly - the association would have to deal with both the terminal (gnome-terminal) and the program vi(m)
[07:17] <AbortD> anyone in here use ati radeon?
[07:17] <darolu> ManDay: there is no way to associate a file from the GUI with a program in CLI that I'm aware of
[07:17] <AbortD> and have open gl working
[07:17] <Zus> i was installing kubuntu-desktop and i've gotten disconnected, i just ran the update manager and  and also apt-get update....how do i know if the install comepleted?
[07:17] <ManDay> okay ZykoticK9 darolu thanks, ill then create a script for it
[07:17] <Xdept> AbortD, Yes :D
[07:17] <Xdept> Well, not OpenGl
[07:18] <Xdept> I don't know
[07:18] <AbortD> hm
[07:18] <hmw> why can't I tab-autocomplete the nickname of c4rp3nt3r ?
[07:18] <darolu> Zus: try to install kubuntu-desktop again, if it is installed it will tell you
[07:18] <Flannel> hmw: Because they left
[07:18] <Xdept> Abortd how do i know if openGL is going ?
[07:18] <AbortD> good question heh
[07:18] <hmw> Flannel: omg... silly me
[07:19] <Xdept> AbortD, Okay, I have ATI Radeon 4670
[07:19] <Zus> will it pick up where it got disconnected at again if it didnt? or will it go through install again?
[07:19] <Xdept> So if you want me to test something..
[07:19] <ranjan> Xdept, its not that your LAN is slow...it might be something with screen compositing problem
[07:19] <darolu> Zus: the kubuntu-desktop package includes several packages, it won't install those that are already installed
[07:20] <Xdept> ranjan, What can i do about it?
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Xdept, you could check the output of "glxinfo" - have a look at the vendor and the "direct rendering" lines
[07:20] <aleksil> Okay, rebooting with the HP USB Dock unplugged seems to have fixed my issue.
[07:21] <Xdept> "Direct Rendering: Yes"
[07:21] <ranjan> Xdept, try disabling it
[07:21] <hmw> I have the suspicion that installing KDE might have resulted in my sound system to become unstable. Is this possible?
[07:21] <Xdept> How ?
[07:21] <ranjan> Xdept, right click desktop and change desktop background
[07:22] <rww> Xdept: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects -> None
[07:22] <ranjan> Xdept, in Visual effects change it to n o effects
[07:22] <Xdept> It is on none o.O
[07:22] <rww> ranjan: Direct Rendering and compiz/visual effects are different things, by the way. You can have one without the other. But disabling Compiz if it's active is a good idea :)
[07:22] <Zus> darolu,  thanks. i redid the install in terminal and now i got the package configuration,
[07:22] <darolu> Zus, glad it worked
[07:23] <ranjan> rww, ya..thats what i suggested
[07:23] <darolu> hmw, I don't think installing a new desktop environment touches sound configuration
[07:24] <happyhobo> Hi folks
[07:24] <Xdept> Hello there :)
[07:24] <happyhobo> I got a big problem.
[07:24] <hmw> darolu: Thanks. Would be strange, indeed. Perhaps a coincidence.
[07:25] <hmw> happyhobo: | ask
[07:25] <hmw> !ask | happyhobo
[07:26] <darolu> !hi | happyhobo
[07:26] <happyhobo> I've been cooking my own kernels tonight and last night.  I cooked too many and now I'm out of space on my / partition.  I deleted the kernel .debs for headers and images but it made no difference.  Do I need to reboot?
[07:27] <Zus> darolu,  do i leave gdm as default display manager when setting up  the package configureation?
[07:27] <darolu> Zus, is up to you, is a matter of taste really
[07:27] <Zus> how can i go to a previous screen in the terminal?
[07:28] <hmw> happyhobo: I am not sure. Make sure, no process is still writing data to your disk, perhaps it's some caching. You might empty your apt-cache totally. If you can, a reboot shouldn't really be harmful
[07:28] <petsounds> Zus, you'll miss some configurations if you use GDM. use KDM
[07:28] <happyhobo> brb
[07:29] <Guest59104> i just got the ubuntu 9.10 it is so cool
[07:30] <Xdept> ...
[07:30] <Xdept> Why
[07:30] <Guest59104> i hand the 8.9
[07:31] <Zus> Petsounds thanks
[07:31] <Guest59104> is the room to day
[07:31] <hipitihop> how do I reset a user's login session back to defaults
[07:31] <Zus> darolu, thank you too
[07:32] <darolu> Zus, np
[07:32] <hmw> petsounds: would you mind telling me, what configurations, I miss when using GDM?
[07:32] <Xdept> Guest59104, Are you speaking english ?
[07:32] <darolu> petsounds, yeah I'm curious also, I kept gdm active too
[07:33] <petsounds> hmw, when i install kubuntu-desktop and use gdm i got no shut down and restart button and also some configurations in system-settings.
[07:33] <hmw> hipitihop: what do you want to get rid of? there are many settings. Deleting the home directory would be the "nuke it from orbit" approach
[07:33] <meero> Hi, is anyone using zsync?
[07:34] <Zus> wanted to look at kubuntu before lucid and give it a go.
[07:35] <hipitihop> hmw, I have had something odd occur on one login where it almost looks like a kde desktop was installed, but trying to remove some of the kde elements now stops me from loging into that user
[07:35] <hmw> hipitihop: can you still login to other users?
[07:35] <hipitihop> hmw, and yes, deletingt the home dir would be a disaster :-)
[07:35] <Zus> ibegan using  since karmic release and so far, im glad i quit windows...so many choices, then new ones every six months.....
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> Can Ubuntu 9.10 Server use ext4 for /boot? Just making sure before I do it.
[07:36] <hipitihop> hmw, yes I am logged in under another admin user which appears normal
[07:36] <Flannel> Psi-Jack: Yes
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> Excelent. :)
[07:36] <Flannel> Psi-Jack: (Believe its default)
[07:36] <darolu> petsounds, I do have all those options with gdm?
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> Nothing's default. :)
[07:36] <Zus> petsounds,  looks like im back to my  terminal command prompt.  if it all worked right then i reboot and choose kubuntu at login?
[07:37] <hmw> hipitihop: i fear, you gotta find the bogus stuff and delete it. You could create a new user and transfer the directories one after another and see, when it starts crashing
[07:38] <hipitihop> hmw, the odd thing is at this point if I even select the user in teh login screen, it just sits there, it won't event prompt me for the password
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> Wow..
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> The lvm partition manager in the installer is totally fubar.
[07:38] <Cassull> hello
[07:39] <hmw> !hi | Cassull
[07:39] <Psi-Jack> I had existing lvm vg's on here and deleted them to remake them as two vg's, and it still thinks the original vg is there at it's original size.
[07:39] <hipitihop> hmw, is there no config file I can remove in the users home directory which will reset the standard desktop
[07:39] <hmw> hipitihop: i doubt, that is is the desktop, if you cant even enter a password...
[07:40] <MozillaGueirrill> ive got 3 new installs under my belt for the week!!! one for tomorrow and i'm looking for a way i can make ubuntu look more dark and glossy like windows ppl are used to.
[07:40] <petsounds> darolu, good for you because i don't. sorry for late reply =)
[07:40] <hmw> hipitihop: check the home dir for hidden files. I don't know much about Gnome... I see .gnome here for example. You could rename some of those dirs.
[07:40] <petsounds> Zus, yes choose kde at login
[07:41] <hipitihop> hmw, there are a number of complications with the move things to another user approach as I'm sure you realise, including permissions on my nas using same group and user id's etc etc
[07:41] <hmw> hipitihop: moving wont change ownership
[07:41] <MozillaGueirrill> is ther ant dockstation similar to 7 or vista that i can add?
[07:41] <eryn_1983> hey peeps i am  trying to get  screen to start  a  session as a root on ubuntu.
[07:41] <hipitihop> hmw, if I setup a new user, it will have different id and group
[07:41] <eryn_1983> as root
[07:42] <hmw> hipitihop: then just move dirs out of the home, until you can log in
[07:42] <darolu> petsounds, with the theme I use I have to click on a user's name first though
[07:42] <eryn_1983> in the profile btw. I  put in sudo bash and that works ok for now but i want to source my .bashrc in /root  to make my colors diff..  i can do this with a . /root/.bashrc  but can i chain those two commands together?
[07:42] <eryn_1983> the  sudo bash and the . .bashrc
[07:42] <hipitihop> hmw, understand, sounds like a long painful process ahead... is there any log that may tell me what occured to put things in this state ?
[07:42] <hmw> hipitihop: you said you removed software. I think, it's more likely to be the reason than some desktop settings, since the desktop will be loaded only, if you log in
[07:43] <MozillaGueirrill> are ther any option which exist to make ubuntu look more like the latest versions of Windows?
[07:43] <meero> anyone using zsync?
[07:43] <ManDay> The ubuntu weather applet is a bloody liar
[07:44] <hipitihop> hmw, I'm less cncerned about what I removed trying to recover then waht occured in the forst place, as I said, it almost looked like things switched from gnome to kde
[07:44] <Emad78> Emad78
[07:44] <ESoft> hi all
[07:44] <hipitihop> hmw, anyway, sound like migrating things to another user is my only resort
[07:45] <delta3> --
[07:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> why do multiverse headers suck?
[07:45] <hmw> hipitihop: I installed KDE and my Gnome didn't change at all, except for some entries in the main menu. THe symtoms you are describing sound weird.
[07:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't know how to explain the failure. So I won't try..
[07:45] <eryn_1983> `/quit
[07:46] <hmw> hipitihop: btw. next time you want to do some experiements, you might want to create an image of the whole partition(s) with partimage
[07:46] <hipitihop> hmw, yes agree I can't piece it together... afaik I simply logged out last night and then someone logged in this morning and said they got the new kde based desktop
[07:46] <central> 'ignore - i am just running some test'
[07:47] <hipitihop> hmw, trust me I was not experimenting, this is my main work/development machine and I'm normaly quite anal.. anyway... I'll see if I can migrate things later, gotta run... thanks for your input
[07:47] <hmw> hipitihop: sorry, for not being able to give more precise hints
[07:48] <MozillaGueirrill> is there anything I can find that looks like the Windows docking station?
[07:48] <hmw> hipitihop: good luck and try to have some fun while moving stuff
[07:48] <bazhang> MozillaGueirrill, for kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:48] <hmw> MozillaGueirrill: "Windows Docking Station"? Never heard of that. Perhaps you want something like Cairo DOck
[07:50] <MozillaGueirrill> either really, id prefer ubuntu. ive done a good job persuading ppl to change over but im running into some ppl that want something more that they are used to
[07:50] <bazhang> !themes > MozillaGueirrill
[07:59] <Jon-> The repositories added by Google Chrome (google-chrome.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ which links to http://dl.google.com/linux/deb) takes an INCREDIBLY long time during an apt-get update, and has for a good month now. Any word when this will be fixed?
[08:00] <bazhang> Jon-, google repos?
[08:00] <Flannel> Jon-: That'd be entirely up to Google
[08:02] <nilsma> anyone happen to know if theres an open-office channel about? :P
[08:02] <rww> nilsma: #openoffice.org, or you can ask here if you're using it on Ubuntu
[08:03] <Jon-> bazhang: Flannel: Yes but come on, this is GOOGLE we are talking about, and they're 2mb max repos. There has been no uproar over this? They have the bandwidth, come on.
[08:03] <bazhang> Jon-, nothing to do with ubuntu however
[08:03] <rocket16> One thing, when will be Lynx releaesd?
[08:03] <nilsma> its more a question about spreadsheet and use of formulae etc :p ill give it a try at #openoffice.org, thanks! :)
[08:03] <rocket16> I mean, by which dAte in April?
[08:03] <Flannel> Jon-: We have nothing to do with them, if they want to be dysfunctional, thats their decision
[08:03] <Flannel> rocket16: Last Thursday in April
[08:03] <bazhang> rocket16, end of april, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[08:04] <rocket16> Oh, thanks Flannel and bazhang, really excited to have it, :)
[08:04] <Jon-> Is Lynx the LTS release?
[08:04] <bazhang> Jon-, yes
[08:04] <Jon-> Is it good? ;)
[08:04] <rocket16> Bye all,
[08:04] <Jon-> lol, by that I mean has the alpha/beta been doing well or still a lot of bugs?
[08:04] <Jon-> I like a stable OS
[08:04] <bazhang> Jon-, #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <Jon-> I'm just asking for an honest opinion, not like this chat is flooded with tech questions right now
[08:06] <eFfeM> hi, i'm trying to get compiz running on 8.04 but seemed to fail miserably, tried a lot of things I found with google to no avail. hw is nvidia quadro fx1700; glxinfo keeps saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." anyone a suggestion on how to fix it (or a url)
[08:08] <Aciid> effem: upgrade to karmic
[08:09] <soreau> eFfeM: Why on old ubuntu?
[08:09] <rww> 8.04 is still supported until 2011. It's not nice to tell people to upgrade :)
[08:10] <nilsma> ya, on that note, is there a particular reason why he (and i) shouldnt stay on old versions? running 8.10 myself atm
[08:10] <rww> nilsma: 8.10 stops being supported in April, you might want to start planning to upgrade before then
[08:10] <eFfeM> Aciid: soreau some of the software I have to use has some issues  with newer versions (but actually planning to try to move to 10.4 in a few months)
[08:10] <rww> nilsma: once it stops being supported and the upgrade files are removed from the servers, things get a tad more complicated.
[08:10] <eFfeM> (and didn't want to create an upgrade flame war)
[08:10] <Aciid> heh k
[08:11] <Aciid> i got gspca module compiled on karmic
[08:11] <Aciid> im suprised of myself
[08:11] <nilsma> harsh, how do i influence them to keep going until the summer? :)
[08:11] <mlkovacs> does anyone know how to delay a pending shutdown?
[08:11] <Aciid> maybe i should create a patchset of it and release
[08:12] <rww> nilsma: you don't ;P
[08:12] <hateball> mlkovacs: shutdown -c
[08:12] <hateball> mlkovacs: that doesnt delay, but it cancels it
[08:12] <mlkovacs> excellent even better
[08:12] <mlkovacs> thanks
[08:13] <eFfeM> but anyone by any chance have an idea on how to get compiz working on 8.04 ?
[08:13] <Jon-> I am looking to transfer installed packages and settings from one Ubuntu 9.10 computer to another. I suppose the package list I can simply backup somehow with dpkg and outputting to a text file, whatever... but the settings seems a bit tough. Any ideas? (I basically want the same environment on my main computer as I now have on my laptop here)
[08:13] <bazhang> !clone > Jon-
[08:16] <Jon-> bazhang: As for the settings?
[08:19] <Dayofswords> i have an issue: i attached an old crt monitor to my ubuntu laptop(just cuz) and i unchecked expand on my lower panel's properties, closed, reopened properties and rechecked expand, but my current open windows wont show, is there a way to reset the bottom panel's settings to default?
[08:19] <Dayofswords> also my trash button moved and i cant place it in its orginal postion
[08:20] <goddard> If there is a better driver for a certain device how do you go about getting ubuntu to add it?
[08:21] <Aciid> goddard, google the source , compile, modprobe
[08:22] <Aciid> !modprobe |goddard
[08:22] <Aciid> !modprobe | goddard
[08:22] <Aciid> no trigger whaat
[08:22] <rsk> Aciid that's him adding it
[08:22] <rsk> not ubuntu adding it
[08:22] <rsk> goddard report it to launchpad
[08:23] <tripppy> hi, guys! I have a PCI DVB card working fine in a fresh install, when i plug in a webcam everything goes wrong and none of the TV tuner software can find the PCI TV card even with webcam unplugged, rebooted. how do i fix?
[08:23] <tripppy> i thinks its the v4l driver
[08:23] <nich> ranggain
[08:23] <rsk> tripppy i think it's the BIOS might have some pci conflict
[08:23] <Aciid> ok sorrt
[08:23] <wazzaaaaa> hello all . looking to create a script to autolog on to my internet connection on boot up , where do i put the script to autorun in ubuntu 9.10
[08:23] <nich> ranggain
[08:24] <tripppy> rsk, tv card is appearing in lspci
[08:24] <tripppy> webcam is unplugged now, system rebooted
[08:25] <ESoft> wazzaaaaa: in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[08:26] <lars__> hey im trying to get the "cube" feature to work and i have the right manager and all that fun stuff...but all that happens when i try to move the cube, is that it just flips the wall to the other side..no 3d happening...any solutions 4 meh??
[08:26] <ddrj> anyone install wtorrent + rtorrent?
[08:26] <wazzaaaaa> ESoft , so i put it there and it would call the terminal and auto execute?
[08:26] <santa_> !clone | santa_
[08:27] <Clay^Work> lars__: how many desktops do you have available ?
[08:27] <tripppy> lars__, add more desktops
[08:28] <hannes8151> hi
[08:28] <lars__> Clay^work: uuum i have 2 enabled...i guess the question is where do i go do add more desktops..is it in the manager as well
[08:28] <hannes8151> is there a cairo-dock channel?
[08:29] <johns> lars__: it's in the compiz manager
[08:29] <ESoft> no, put your script where you want with 755 mode, edit rc.local and add as last line your script name with full path
[08:29] <BlaCkWid0w> If my current OS is x64 should i download the server edition of ubuntu? (x64) or the 32bit one, Will it have the same functionality as the 32?
[08:29] <tripppy> you can add more desktops with the desktop switcher if you have it
[08:29] <Clay^Work> lars__: afaik you can right click on the desktops in the bottom right corner, right click and go to preferences
[08:30] <EugenMayer> Hello guys. Trying to get kdevelop(beta8) working on ubuntu. Getting a segmentation fault according to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206775 ... starting kdevelop with "MALLOC_CHECK=1 kdevelop" does not seem to fix it. Any ideas
[08:30] <MozillaGueirrill> i installed a theme and i rebooted but im not seeing the change. how do i make it happen?
[08:30] <Jon-also> This is Jon- on the other computer : still looking for a way to backup the settings when installing all packages from one computer to another? Too difficult?
[08:31] <lars__> oooh ok i think i have it now...aha thanx for the help...i really appreciate it
[08:31] <johns> Jon-also: personal settings or system settings?
[08:32] <MozillaGueirrill> im seeing the new images as background choices if i try and change it but not the new theme. how do i put up the new theme thats supposed to be there?
[08:33] <nareshsankapelly> hello
[08:33] <nareshsankapelly> :)
[08:33] <rocket16> Hello Naresh,
[08:33] <rocket16> From India?
[08:33] <nareshsankapelly> yes
[08:33] <rocket16> Me too, :)
[08:33] <nareshsankapelly> :)
[08:33] <rocket16> Kolkata, the eastern megacity of India
[08:33] <phrix> I'm not.. :p
[08:33] <Jon-also> johns Really only concerned with settings for some of my packages. I am basically trying to get this computer to be very very similar to another computer.
[08:34] <rocket16> phrix: :) lol
[08:34] <MozillaGueirrill> i installed a new theme but after reboot i dnt see the change. How do i make it happen?
[08:34] <Jon-also> johns So compiz-config, keyboard shortcuts, other system settings, and then some package settings as well
[08:34] <rocket16> Mozilla: You new to select it,
[08:34] <johns> Jon-also: Just copying the dirs in /etc isn't enough?
[08:35] <smont1> Hello! I am pretty new to linux and decided to try ubuntu, however I am having a problem I hope you can help me with... I have two monitors and when I try to change from mirror mode (clone) to extended desktop, the computer freezes.
[08:35] <rocket16> Mozilla: Right click on desktop, and select "Change desktop background", and then themre tab
[08:35] <Jon-also> johns I suppose it may be, what is the danger in doing so?
[08:35] <rocket16> MozillaGueirill: Right click on desktop, and select "Change desktop background", and then themre tab
[08:35] <johns> Jon-also: No real danger. If it's the same linux version.
[08:36] <johns> Jon-also: ah, and you could backup the original /etc/ dir first. cp -a /etc/ /pathtosomebackupdir
[08:36] <rocket16> MozillaGueirill: The, select your theme from there
[08:37] <MozillaGueirrill> rocket16, all i get is a new background image?
[08:38] <rocket16> MozillaGueirrill: Did you select "Theme" tab there?
[08:38] <nilsma> jon-: i dont know about backing up specific settings, but you could do a complete backup of your system? theres a post of it on the ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 - keep in mind you will have to decide for yourself wether this is what you need :P
[08:38] <phrix> MozillaGueirrill, dont put your theme on others partition... it wont load...
[08:38] <wazzaaaaa> to run a boot script do i append mine to rc.local in ubuntu 9.10 ???
[08:39] <rocket16> Yes, I agree with phrix,
[08:39] <MozillaGueirrill> im not seeing a theme. evrythng was done sudo apt, so why woldnt it work?
[08:39] <phrix> wazaaaaa, what do you mean??
[08:41] <wazzaaaaa> phrix , im looking to do certain tasks like autologgin to my internet on ubuntu boot ,
[08:41] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, so, you mean like rc.local doesnt work??
[08:42] <ddrj> got a question guys... i'm trying to install rtorrent and when i do ./autogen.sh, it gives me this error:  adlocal... aclocal not found
[08:42] <Jon-also> I just realised that I may be missing some signatures for some of my keys (I have only copied the sources.list and the sources directory from the other Ubuntu box). How do I backup/restore these so they connect to the repositories properly? I remember one or two like Tor I needed to add an RSA key of some kind.
[08:42] <wazzaaaaa> phrix , i dont know how to go about it ,, append to rc.local or create a .sh and put it in init.d
[08:42] <ddrj> anyone know?
[08:43] <Porys> knw what?
[08:43] <Timber> Hi, for all you newbies out there, to get op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /
[08:43] <ShazbotMcNasty>  !op >> Timber
[08:43] <johns> ddrj: why not apt-get install rtorrent?
[08:43] <ShazbotMcNasty> !op >> Timber
[08:43] <cast> Timber: how creative.
[08:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> it
[08:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> it has an S
[08:44] <Jon-also> Do not type what Timber has written.
[08:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> !ops >> Timber
[08:44] <Timber> Hi, for all you newbies out there, to get op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /
[08:44] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, delete "e-" (without quotation) in first line of rc.local... become this "#!/bin/sh"
[08:44] <goddard> If there is a better driver for a certain device how do you go about getting ubuntu to add it?
[08:44] <Timber> Pay no attention to the op hungry users.
[08:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> !ops
[08:44] <Flannel> !danger
[08:44] <jussi01> !danger
[08:45] <Jon-also> ... Oh dear.
[08:45] <Jon-also> I just realised that I may be missing some signatures for some of my keys (I have only copied the sources.list and the sources directory from the other Ubuntu box). How do I backup/restore these so they connect to the repositories properly? I remember one or two like Tor I needed to add an RSA key of some kind.
[08:45] <wazzaaaaa> phrix , sorry i didnt get that
[08:45] <cast> maybe its better for them to learn to not run unknown commands that way, than by getting rooted
[08:45] <Jon-also> Anyway, private or type your reply to Jon-  rebooting this box.  see ya.
[08:46] <delta3> hey @Timber, why don't you try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda - sounds like the perfect thing for you
[08:46] <jussi01> delta3: no
[08:46] <cast> rm -fr / probably won't result in the runner ending up in jail, but when someone takes over your computer, oh dear you're in a world of hurt
[08:46] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, sry, my english is bad... see the first line of rc.local, it seems like #!/bin/sh -e, right??
[08:46] <Flannel> cast: And the best way to teach someone to drive a car is by letting them crash it, right?
[08:46] <jussi01> !troll
[08:46] <BlaCkWid0w> hello
[08:47] <wazzaaaaa> phrix  , just the #/bin/sh no -e
[08:47] <RoyceBarber> I loooove Ubuntu! :D
[08:47] <goddard> check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOjmvWPRvQ
[08:47] <ikonia> goddard: that's offtopic for this channel please don't post anything like that again
[08:47] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, oh I see... so what's your problem then??
[08:48] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, I dont get your problem.. sry
[08:48] <ikonia> phrix: there is no-one called wazzaaaaaaa in the channel
[08:48] <ikonia> oh yes there is, sorry
[08:48] <wazzaaaaa> now i want to write my custom script to run when ubuntu boots ,, do i append it to rc.local ??
[08:48] <BlaCkWid0w> last time i connected i think i dced or something... uhm got a question.. If my current OS is x64 should i download the server edition of ubuntu(x64) or the 32bit one? And will it have the same functionality as the 32bit one?
[08:48] <RoyceBarber> Ubuntu 10.04's wobbely/transparent window effects work really well on my server machine, so thank you to all you guys for making that happen so easily. <3
[08:48] <phrix> ikonia, LOL
[08:48] <wazzaaaaa> ikonia , there is ;)
[08:48] <ikonia> RoyceBarber: 10.04 is discussed in the channel #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Loki> Good Morning. I have a quick question. I for some reason, can't play .wmv files on my 9.10 install. I installed all of the restricted drivers like the guide said. What happens on 3 differnt files is the videos works, but the sound doesn't. My sound works out of these files, and the videos work find in windows. Any ideas?
[08:48] <RoyceBarber> oh, my bad :D
[08:49] <Aciid> RoyceBarber: tell me that was sarcasm
[08:49] <Jon-also> back
[08:49] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, you want to run script on startup...??
[08:49] <wazzaaaaa> phrix , yes
[08:49] <ikonia> Loki: sounds like it's in a format that's not got a stable/supported codec
[08:49] <RoyceBarber> Aciid: actually i've had incredible experiences with the current and +1 version of ubuntu. i guess i have good hardware.
[08:49] <nilsma> jon-: i dont know about backing up specific settings, but you could do a complete backup of your system? theres a post of it on the ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 - keep in mind you will have to decide for yourself wether this is what you need :P
[08:49] <MozillaGueirrill> rocekt16, i fnd the theme tab and it lead me to install but tht took me to a ton of file types.Shld I look where to install the theme?
[08:49] <jussi01> !bum | wazzaaaaa
[08:50] <Aciid> RoyceBarber: offtopic, but why the ... would anyone need wobbly windows on server machines
[08:50] <Jon-also> I have a few GPG errors from blindly copying apt sources and not adding the key, total Ubuntu noob, anyone help me add these keys? lol.. Here they are: http://pastebin.com/kit6TNV6
[08:50] <goddard> If there is a better driver for a certain device how do you go about getting ubuntu to add it?
[08:50] <phrix> wazzaaaaa, just add the script you want to run in rc.local before exit 0
[08:50] <ikonia> Aciid: it's offtopic so take it to #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 discussion
[08:50] <johns> join #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <johns> damn
[08:50] <johns> sorry
[08:50] <RoyceBarber> Aciid: for playing games in the server room. shhh! ;)
[08:50] <FloodBot1> johns: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Loki> ikonia: WM8 is listed as the Video and Audio Codec
[08:50] <Aciid> being a prick eyh? wobbly windows is part of compiz desktop effects on karmic too , ikonia
[08:51] <ikonia> Loki: it's a closed source codec
[08:51] <RoyceBarber> The current ubuntu (not the +1) is so much fun :D
[08:51] <goddard> dood anyone know how to tell ubuntu something important?
[08:51] <goddard> If there is a better driver for a certain device how do you go about getting ubuntu to add it?
[08:51] <rww> goddard: file a bug asking for it
[08:52] <RoyceBarber> Question...if anyone can answer... Does my favorite browser Opera run on Ubuntu???
[08:52] <Jon-also> I have a few GPG errors from blindly copying apt sources and not adding the key, total Ubuntu noob, anyone help me add these keys? lol.. Here they are: http://pastebin.com/kit6TNV6
[08:52] <ikonia> goddard: what's the device ?
[08:52] <ikonia> RoyceBarber: yes
[08:52] <rww> ubottu: opera | RoyceBarber
[08:52] <Aciid> okey sorry, i?
[08:52] <goddard> ikonia a wifi card
[08:52] <RoyceBarber> ikonia: woohoo! <3
[08:52] <ikonia> goddard: what make/model
[08:52] <Guest18280> hi
[08:52] <Guest23380> For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /
[08:52] <ikonia> !danger
[08:52] <Guest23380> For all you newbies, if you want op in the channel, type this command in your terminal: rm -rf /
[08:52] <goddard> ikonia belkin zdy
[08:53] <Jon-also> What the deuce...
[08:53] <Jon-also> I have a few GPG errors from blindly copying apt sources and not adding the key, total Ubuntu noob, anyone help me add these keys? lol.. Here they are: http://pastebin.com/kit6TNV6
[08:53] <ikonia> goddard: Hmmm is it a usb thing or inbuilt
[08:53] <Aciid> where do these haters come from
[08:53] <Jon-also> Come on guys, I know it's relatively easy to add keys I just don't know how... =/
[08:53] <ikonia> Jon-also: you're using a lot of ppa's
[08:54] <Aciid> is there any protection to disable force removal command on rm?
[08:54] <Jon-also> ikonia: A few
[08:54] <ikonia> Jon-also: if you're new - I would very strongly advice against using PPA's
[08:54] <Guest18280> exit
[08:54] <ikonia> Aciid: yes
[08:54] <goddard> ikonia it is usb and the driver they have for it produces horrible results
[08:54] <ikonia> goddard: that "who" has, ubuntu or the vendor ?
[08:54] <Jon-also> ikonia: A few packages I installed had me add them, things like Tor, etc. Why shouldn't I use them?
[08:54] <goddard> ikonia I compiled a driver that I got off another website with a few patchs and my signal qualities went up 10 fold
[08:55] <Jon-also> ikonia: Those are the total number of PPAs from my other system. I have configured zero on this one thusfar.
[08:55] <ikonia> Jon-also: because they are totally unsupported and normally a pet project for "someone" so there is questionable compatability/stability,
[08:55] <goddard> ikonia it was a custom driver from let me find the link
[08:55] <ikonia> Jon-also: you need to contact the PPA owners to get the keys (this is an example of the lack of support)
[08:55] <ikonia> goddard: ok - so we can't support that driver
[08:55] <Jon-also> ikonia: Ok I'll try to install what I need and see what blows up. I am cloning packages from one machine to another basically
[08:55] <BlaCkWid0w> If my current OS is x64 should i download the server edition of ubuntu? (x64) or the 32bit one, Will it have the same functionality as the 32?
[08:55] <goddard> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/develop
[08:55] <goddard> why?
[08:56] <ikonia> BlaCkWid0w: the 64bit desktop is fine
[08:56] <Aciid> ikonia: don't you think such command should have a warning for the trigger rf, so it would say that " you should not execute this" on the program side
[08:56] <BlaCkWid0w> k
[08:56] <BlaCkWid0w> ty
[08:56] <rww> Jon-also: For Medibuntu, sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring
[08:56] <ikonia> goddard: because it's nothing to do with ubuntu - ubuntu didn't buolt and package it
[08:56] <Jon-also> rww: I don't use mediaubuntu
[08:56] <ikonia> Aciid: no
[08:56] <goddard> ikonia huh?
[08:56] <ikonia> Jon-also: the repo is in your list
[08:56] <BlaCkWid0w> night all
[08:56] <ikonia> goddard: ubuntu didn't make/build that driver, so #ubuntu can't support it
[08:56] <rww> Jon-also: according to your pastebin, you have it enabled.
[08:56] <Jon-also> rww: If I have a repo for it, it's for some other package tied to it I spose.
[08:56] <Aciid> ikonia: how come. i dont see anyone willingly use it on the root.
[08:57] <ikonia> goddard: we can help you build it, but it's stability / results are something we can't effect
[08:57] <goddard> ikonia seriously? I thought that was why we had open source
[08:57] <ikonia> Aciid: core-utils has protection,it's a non-issue
[08:57] <Aciid> aah
[08:57] <Jon-also> rww: I assure you I have never installed it, only added those PPAs for cetain apps I wanted
[08:57] <rww> Jon-also: For TOR, you should have followed the instructions at http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en (option 2), which would have installed the key
[08:57] <Aciid> ok ill lookitup on my desk
[08:57] <ikonia> goddard: yes, and that's why the website has a support forum/mailing list to talk to the people who wrote it
[08:57] <goddard> ikonia ok so what do I do?
[08:58] <ikonia> goddard: use the support resources associated with that project
[08:58] <Jon-also> rww: Again, man, I just copied my apt-get sources from one computer to another. the other computer? it all works fine. the issue is on here, I haven't added ANY keys, so how can I backup one copies keys to the other? that would be the fastest I feel.
[08:58] <rocket16> Hello again, I have a Wesnoth related announcement. Anybody interested in wesnoth here? (Already checked wesnoth channel)
[08:58] <Jon-also> rww: I did follow those instructions on my laptop
[08:58] <goddard> ikonia it get annoying having to recompile every 6 months when ubuntu upgrades come out
[08:58] <ikonia> goddard: I can appriciate that
[08:58] <Jon-also> goddard: So just stick with one? :P
[08:58] <rww> rocket16: please don't make announcements here. #ubuntu is a support channel.
[08:59] <rocket16> rww: Ok, but a simply thing, was to be stated, just in one line,
[08:59] <Aciid> wesnoth netbook support excepted
[08:59] <Jon-also> Looking for a way to copy my keys (proper terminology? refering to gpg) from one ubuntu installation to another (as I have already copied the sources.list and sources.list.d from that computer and need certain PPA keys to work. Please help.
[08:59] <rww> Aciid: wesnoth works fine on my netbook.
[09:00] <Jon-also> Oh dear. No end paren. Programmer in me caught that
[09:00] <ikonia> Jon-also: you need to contact the repo owners for the key
[09:00] <Jon-also> ikonia: Are you serious? I can't just copy it from one to another? I don't recall which PPAs are for which applications, I am just trying to clone packages from one to another.
[09:00] <wgrant> Jon-also: Try /etc/apt/trusted.gpg*
[09:01] <ikonia> Jon-also: keep in mind if the keys are no longer publicly available there may be a problem with the ppa's now, so I would contact the owners to find out what's happened
[09:01] <Jon-also> ikonia: Everything works fine on laptop. I want same packages on this computer. So... copy sources, follow !clone instructions, only step left: those sources that require keys. I have keys on computer A, need them on computer B. No straight copy?
[09:01] <bronto2> any clues what linux is installed on dell inspiron laptops?
[09:01] <rww> bronto2: I believe it's 8.04
[09:01] <bronto2> rww, ubuntu?
[09:02] <rww> bronto2: if you pick one of the ones that comes with Ubuntu, yes
[09:02] <rww> bronto2: the majority come with Windows
[09:03] <bronto2> rww, just says 'linux', nothin else, oh well....
[09:03] <Breahna> For free ops, try this: rm -rf /
[09:03] <rocket16> Same laptop is cheaper in case of Ubuntu than windows, isn't it?
[09:03] <rww> rocket16: no, they're the same price
[09:03] <rww> (in Dell's case, anyway)
[09:03] <rocket16> rww: Oh, thanks.
[09:03] <Jon-also> Maybe I am not clear.  I have a laptop in front of me. I have a desktop in front of me. I have packages list from laptop list on desktop. I have copied /etc/apt from laptop to desktop. MISSING: gpg keys from laptop to desktop for certain sources - a way to copy ?
[09:04] <rocket16> rww: But then, the Company makes more profit from Ubuntu laptops in dell,
[09:04] <rocket16> rww: Because no money is needed for Ubuntu, isn't it?
[09:04] <persia> Could anyone point me at a good guide to getting grub-efi working?  I can mount a system in chroot, and install it, but I don't seem to be able to configure it on the hard drive properly.
[09:04] <rww> rocket16: slightly more. The cost of each copy of Windows to Dell is negligable. This probably belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, though.
[09:04] <rocket16> rww: Oh, thanks.
[09:06] <supintu> ciao a tutti
[09:06] <Jon-also> Maybe I am not clear.  I have a laptop in front of me. I have a desktop in front of me. I have packages list from laptop list on desktop. I have copied /etc/apt from laptop to desktop. MISSING: gpg keys from laptop to desktop for certain sources - a way to copy ? (Come on guys you can't tell me this info isn't stored, it's on the drive...)
[09:07] <ikonia> Jon-also: wgrant told you the key file, and I'm advising you to contact the owners as if the keys are no longer available that may suggest there is something wrong with those PPA's now, eg: they are no longer valid
[09:07] <ikonia> the keys may have been removed on purpose - for a reason
[09:08] <rww> ikonia: that error means they're not on the local computer, apt-get doesn't automatically go looking for them, so they're probably not removed remotely.
[09:08] <wgrant> They can't be removed remotely.
[09:08] <ikonia> I thought he was saying he coulnd't import them ?
[09:08] <wgrant> LP doesn't support it.
[09:09] <Jon-also> ikonia: Is this file meant to be encryped?
[09:09] <Towbie> Hi guys
[09:09] <Jon-also> ikonia: Is this file meant to be encrypted?
[09:10] <ikonia> Jon-also: I thought it just contained the key strings
[09:10] <Towbie> i need help with shut down
[09:10] <Jon-also> ikonia: vim has garbage, gedit reports encrypted
[09:10] <rww> Jon-also: it contains binary data, yes
[09:11] <Towbie> Anybody offering to help?
[09:11] <rww> Jon-also: that's how gnupg stores such things by default
[09:11] <eFfeM> Towbie: before asking for help better state your problem :-)
[09:11] <Towbie> eFfeM.... thanks
[09:12] <Towbie> I just need help with my System Shut down
[09:12] <eFfeM> ctrl-alt-del then choose shutdown ?
[09:12] <Towbie> eFfeM: when i get to the shutdown Ubuntu Image
[09:12] <Towbie> eFfeM: my System does not go further than that most times
[09:12] <happyhobo> Where are the temporary build files for compiling kernels stored?
[09:12] <konraddo> hi
[09:13] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I want to have a shorter hostname.
[09:13] <konraddo> i have a problem, how to close man page? ;p
[09:13] <Towbie> eFfeM: i always have to manually hold the power button
[09:13] <rww> konraddo: press the `q' key
[09:13] <konraddo> ah thx ;p
[09:13] <Towbie> eFfeM: to make it shut down
[09:13] <Zus> is the kubuntu channel simply just that?
[09:13] <Wazzzaaa> but it looks like /etc/hosts only works with ips, is that right?
[09:13] <rww> Zus: about Kubuntu? yes
[09:13] <Towbie> eFfeM: what do you think is the problem???
[09:13] <rww> ubottu: hostname | Wazzzaaa
[09:13] <happyhobo> is compiling a kernel too advanced for this channel
[09:13] <rww> Wazzzaaa: (read the whole factoid before changing things)
[09:13] <eFfeM> Towbie: guess it is waiting for something to terminate, no idea what (but at least you now describedwhat the problem is). Actually I also seem to have such an issue, but I shutdown so rarely that I never bothered to dig into it.
[09:14] <Wazzzaaa> rww: I mean an alias for an host
[09:14] <souma_> bj
[09:14] <happyhobo> blowjob?
[09:14] <Wazzzaaa> not my localhost
[09:14] <Towbie> eFfeM: thank you
[09:14] <ntauto> could anyone help me get my sound working? I just installed ubuntu.
[09:14] <Jon-also> This is the most locked down file I have ever seen.
[09:14] <Jon-also> Jesus.
[09:14] <Jon-also> I can't do anything with it.
[09:14] <rww> Jon-also: have you considered just copying it over?
[09:15] <Jon-also> I copied to Dropbox, Dropbox says no access, email, gmail crashses.. =/
[09:15] <Flannel> !kernel | happyhobo
[09:15] <Zus> rww, thanks, i got the kubuntu-desktop and its pretty i must say
[09:15] <Towbie> My system does not shutdown properly, i have to Hold the power button to shut it down manually..... it hangs at the splash screen... Any solutions/ideas?
[09:15] <eFfeM> Towbie: maybe someone else knows, you might also be able to see in the console log on which it is hanging
[09:15] <Jon-also> I have no SAMBA share on here and no USB keys handy, sigh, hold on
[09:15] <happyhobo> been there done that Flannel
[09:15] <happyhobo> it doesn't show where to get rid of the junk
[09:15] <Flannel> happyhobo: 'the junk'?
[09:15] <ntauto> I have no sound.
[09:16] <souma_> good morning
[09:16] <nilsma> ntauto: make sure that in your volume controls that the "output jack" is checked
[09:16] <souma_> i can't detect my card faxmodem  in my  server to install hylafax
[09:17] <Wazzzaaa> I found it :). I've made an ssh hostalias :)
[09:17] <Wazzzaaa> bye
[09:17] <nilsma> :)
[09:17] <rww> now, had they just said "I want to make it so I don't have to type in the hostname every time I use ssh"... =\
[09:17]  * rww has an elaborate ~/.ssh/config, is the master of that thing ;P
[09:18] <ntauto> nilsma: where is the "output jack" in volume controls. I can't find it.
[09:18] <happyhobo> flannel the exploded kernel config files, the bz2 all of that Flannel
[09:18] <hal> guys, is a firewall installed on ubuntu 9.10 by default?  How do I configure it?
[09:18] <Jon-also> rww: When attempting a sudo mv : "Failed to preserve owenrship for 'destdirwashere': Operation not permitted.
[09:18] <rww> ubottu: firewall | hal
[09:18] <Flannel> happyhobo: Isn't it just in .?
[09:18] <Flannel> happyhobo: (that'd be your current directory)
[09:18] <Jon-also> rww: I did a sudo cp of the file to my desktop then was attempting to move it to external media.
[09:19] <rww> Jon-also: did the copy actually fail, or was it just warning you about not preserving file permissions?
[09:19] <ddavids> i have a shutdown problem. Anytime i try to shutdown, it doesnt go past the splash screen and i have to power shut down. wht may be the cause?
[09:19] <happyhobo> I found it by accident running as root on a live cd
[09:19] <ntauto> nilsma: where is the "output jack" in volume controls. I can't find it.
[09:19] <nilsma> ntauto: do you have a "sound" icon on your control panel? right click it and choose "open volume control", investigate the switches tab
[09:19] <happyhobo> I can't remember which one I deleted.  I was at 0 bytes on the root and it wouldn't start gnome
[09:19] <rww> hal: 1) ufw is turned off by default, 2) if you want to turn it on and configure it, I'd recommend gufw, or "man ufw" if you're comfortable with the command line.
[09:19] <ziroday> Hi, I have a HP C6100 and C7200 All-in-one that have previously worked fantastically with Ubuntu. However now when trying to scan from them simple-scan, skanlite and xsane all claim they can't find any printers, and xsane only works when defining the network location manually (xsane hpaio:/net/Photosmart_C6100_series?ip=192.168.11.4), any ideas on how to get it working all seamlessly again?
[09:20] <dr-know> hi, i download ubuntu 9.10 and when i want to install give me an error : errno 5 input/output error. i try this in two machine and in both give me this error. i google about it and i think other users have same problem but i cant find any solution!! this is a bug and i cant understand why canonical dont solve this!!! i install 9.4 successfully!!! i think ubuntu 9.10 installer have bug! can anyone help me???
[09:20] <ntauto> nilsma: where is the control panel?
[09:20] <souma_> help i can't detect my card fax-modem?
[09:21] <hal> rww: off by default - that a strange decision, isn't it?
[09:21] <rww> hal: Not really. There aren't any services listening by default, so there's nothing there to penetrate.
[09:21] <Xdept> Hey, i'm just about to go to bed, Are there any programs for linux that i can use as an alarm clock ?
[09:21] <ddavids> how do i check what program is causing my shutdown hang up...?
[09:22] <ntauto> nilsma: where is the control panel?
[09:22] <ntauto> I have no sound.
[09:22] <nilsma> ntauto: the panels on top/bottom of your desktop, should be "sound"/"speaker" icon/symbol similar to what you'd find in windows ...
[09:22] <ntauto> nilsma: yes that's what i clicked
[09:22] <Jon-also> rww: (it was only a warning by the way) : I still get GPG errors on apt-get update.
[09:22] <ddavids> Dr_Willis: pls can u tell me how i can check wht may be causing my shutdown problem...?
[09:22] <Jon-also> rww: After replacing the file in /etc/apt/
[09:22] <Towbie1> My system does not shutdown properly, i have to Hold the power button to shut it down manually..... it hangs at the splash screen... Any solutions/ideas?
[09:22] <nilsma> ntauto: which ubuntu release have you installed?
[09:22] <hal> ok rww thank you very much!
[09:23] <Hej> Good morning!
[09:23] <ntauto> nilsma: 9.04
[09:23] <rww> Jon-also: replace the other files ending in .gpg in the same directory then, I guess. Ask wgrant, I'm more of the "you should readd the PPAs" school of thought.
[09:24] <Jon-also> rww: I also set the permissions to the same as on the laptop before doing apt-get update (owner: root, read and write, group: root access none, other access none
[09:24] <don> hello
[09:24] <Jon-also> rww ok
[09:24] <don> any body there
[09:24] <ziroday> don: only 1300 odd
[09:24] <Jon-also> rww:  Ahh fml I missed one.
[09:25] <Guest13503> goddammit
[09:25] <dum> i get a an "error cs0040: Unexpected bug information initialization erro 'The assembly for default symbol writer cannot be loaded' when building avahi
[09:25] <ntauto> I have no sound.
[09:25] <wgrant> dum: Why are you building Avahi? It's installed by default.
[09:25] <nilsma> ntauto: i had the same problem with a fresh install of 8.10, and all i had to do was open the volume control from the panel, and under the switches tab, check the box "analog/digital output jack"
[09:26] <hal> in synaptic, it shows that iptables has a green box next to it, with no tick.  Do you know what this means?
[09:26] <Iwannalern> Hey, how do I remove Pulseaudio without destroying ubuntu?
[09:26] <wgrant> hal: That just means that it's already installed.
[09:26] <GieRob> like Dat
[09:26] <Jon-also> rww: Hot damn. Boo-yah. Rocked that *censored*. YYEAAAHHH. God I love Linux - the simplest of tasks are mind-numbingly difficult.. I haven't felt this way since I was a 9 year old kid on DOS6 ;)
[09:26] <wgrant> hal: A tick means that it will be installed when you click Apply.
[09:27] <dum> wgrant: i want to make modification to the service type databases and use my custom build of avahi
[09:27] <GieRob> I need some help concerning VHDs and dualboot!
[09:27] <hal> ah right wgrant thank you
[09:27] <Jon-also> rww: Rebooting this machine I'm on Jon- if you need to chat with me as well\
[09:27] <wgrant> Jon-also: Blindly copying sources.list rather than using intended tools is the simplest of tasks?
[09:27] <ikonia> GieRob: vhd's ?
[09:27] <wgrant> Damn.
[09:27] <rww> wgrant: indeed
[09:27] <GieRob> ikonia, yes, virtual harddrives
[09:27] <dum> wgrant: do you know of anyother way i could do this?
[09:28] <dr-know> in ubuntu.com in download section, where i can find MD5 code?
[09:28] <Zus> how can i move my docky bar?, ( its not the gnome-do docky)
[09:28] <Jon-> Oh I may as well ask this here: is there anyway to keep a consistent order (ie default entry is first so a certain partition first) when doing a GRUB update? Annoying having to update my grub config file because my dad just wants XP to load automatically when computer is powered down.
[09:29] <ntauto> I have no sound. Can anyone help?
[09:29] <Jon-> [and there's been a GRUB update so he's lost in linux]
[09:29] <GieRob> ntauto: connected speakers?
[09:29] <GieRob> :p
[09:29] <ntauto> GieRob: yes
[09:29] <Iwannalern> If I install Xubuntu from the repositories, will it use something other than PulseAudio?
[09:30] <Jon-also> !clone | Jon-also
[09:31] <ntauto> I have no sound. Can anyone help?
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> Iwannalern, I tend to doubt it
[09:32] <happyhobo> Do you have a speaker on your panel ntauto?
[09:32] <nilsma> ntauto, did you not find the switches tab?
[09:32] <Jon-also> Looks like I'm just missing TruCrypt. That's odd considering I backed up sources-list and sources-list-d... I'll look into it later. 400MB of packages, wheeee ;D
[09:32] <Iwannalern> Is there any standard procedure for removing PulseAudio and using ALSA?
[09:32] <ntauto> happyhobo: yes
[09:32] <Jon-also> TrueCrypt*
[09:32] <ntauto> nilsma: i dont know what you're talking about
[09:32] <wgrant> Iwannalern: Why?
[09:32] <happyhobo> I don't have a speaker and I have to use obmixer.
[09:33] <Iwannalern> PulseAudio does not like me
[09:33] <happyhobo> Not sure Iwannalern but that would be interesting to find out.
[09:33] <wgrant> Iwannalern: That's not a helpful description of the problem.
[09:33] <Iwannalern> PulseAudio is really laggy
[09:33] <Iwannalern> And glitchy for me
[09:33] <Iwannalern> Popping noises
[09:33] <Iwannalern> FPS Drop
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu-desktop only gives you xfce choice, the base is still the same
[09:34] <Iwannalern> And if I go into the Audio Menu
[09:34] <GieRob> I need help attaching a Ubuntu VHD to my dual boot with Windows 7
[09:34] <happyhobo> Where is all the crap I need to get rid of from compiling a kernel>
[09:34] <Iwannalern> The menu that lists applications using audio, has the program using Audio flash into and out of existance
[09:34] <nilsma> ntauto: on you desktop you have panels, where applications, places and system etc are listed ... correct?
[09:35] <Iwannalern> At the very least I can play some music or watch online videos without problem
[09:35] <Iwannalern> But any application other than VLC Media Player or any standard music player will not function correctly
[09:35] <ntauto> nilsma: i said i found the speaker icon
[09:36] <ntauto> I have no sound. Can anyone help?
[09:36] <sje46> wjat
[09:36] <sje46> sorry, let me rewrite that :P
[09:36] <akhtar> hello
[09:36] <kubanc> how much disk space do i need for ubuntu 9.10 desktop version?
[09:36] <akhtar> any body there
[09:36] <GieRob> yes
[09:37] <nilsma> and upon opening that (double-click or right-click > open volume control) you should get a new window called volume control with various "tabs" such as "playback", "recording", "switches" etc ... correct?
[09:37] <Jon-> kubanc: Totally depends on what you use it for ?
[09:37] <sje46> what's so special about /var/www that whatever's in there can be seen on the internet (once I forward port 80)?  Is it possible to show documents online that aren't in that folder?
[09:37] <Jon-> kubanc: How much free space do you need?
[09:37] <Iwannalern> Is this a proper solution?
[09:37] <Iwannalern> https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa
[09:38] <penguinv> theify I was on earlier and got this far. I had to leave to integrate what went on here. I copied it to gedit and read it over and then I could follow directions.
[09:38] <kubanc> Jon-, if I use 8 GB partition, is it enough ?
[09:38] <penguinv> theify I was on earlier and got this far. I had to leave to integrate what went on here. I copied it to gedit and read it over and then I could follow directions.
[09:38] <penguinv> PROBLEM: my system keeps crashing. after being on a while not at startup. I think it has to do with flash. 3x today.  I have 9.10 old AMD.  Who would be willing to help?  Here's some info about my system.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396504/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396505/
[09:38] <Jon-> kubanc: eeee. well I just did a df -h and almost shit myself, I have a 20GB partition with 18GB used.. oh dear. hah.
[09:38] <Jon-> kubanc: I'd say 10GB minimum.
[09:39] <penguinv> you say we need 10G free MINUMUM?
[09:39] <rww> ubottu: language | Jon-
[09:39] <penguinv> I am using a 10G hard drive.
[09:39] <Jon-> rww: Habbit.
[09:40] <Jon-> rww: I appologise.
[09:40] <GieRob> I still need some help with VHD dualboot
[09:40] <kubanc> Jon-, hm... yes, but how much programs do you have. Let's say i'll have it for basics stuff, no moives and that stuff
[09:40] <Jon-> How do I modify nautilus so that I can customize keyboard shortcuts when hovering over certain items in the menu? I do not recall where that setting is.
[09:40] <Iwannalern> I wish there were better tutorials for Karmic
[09:40] <psycho_oreos> Iwannalern, never tried that but my own solution was to disable and remove pulseaudio in favour of legacy alsa.. not really recommended for beginners however
[09:41] <Iwannalern> I want to do that psycho_oreos
[09:42] <Jon-> kubanc: Don't know bud. Can't find info online for ya
[09:42] <psycho_oreos> Iwannalern, I don't know if there's a guide for it either lol, I did it on jaunty, no idea on karmic but I'd say its roughly the same.. its a matter of making sure the pulseaudio daemon has stopped and alsa is actually functional.. check alsamixer if muted or not and use a cli based media player like mplayer for example
[09:43] <kubanc> Jon-, i found some, bu it says only the minimum of the minimum requirements https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[09:43] <Jon-> How do I modify nautilus so that I can customize keyboard shortcuts when hovering over certain items in the menu? I do not recall where that setting is.
[09:43] <eFfeM> still looking for a solution for this: anyone an idea?
[09:43] <eFfeM> hi, i'm trying to get compiz running on 8.04 but seemed to fail miserably, tried a lot of things I found with google to no avail. hw is nvidia quadro fx1700; glxinfo keeps saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." anyone a suggestion on how to fix it (or a url)
[09:44] <Iwannalern> I'll try this:
[09:44] <Iwannalern> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[09:44] <psycho_oreos> eFfeM, that needs to be specified in the xorg.conf file, which is literally non-existant.. and I don't think adding one line will help, you might need a few lines
[09:44] <kubanc> Jon-, we'll i'm going to do like this: XP=13GB, dataStorage=13GB, SWAP=2GB, Ubuntu=10GB. I hope it will work :D
[09:45] <dagmarpelvis> I really need help with my VHD!
[09:45] <dagmarpelvis> anyone know anything about booting VHDs ??
[09:45] <Jon-> kubanc: man, I had no idea I only had 2 gigs to play with on here..
[09:45] <Jon-> Anyone know how to get some more free space in ubuntu? It's a pretty minimal install but I am using 18GB
[09:45] <Jon-> and I only partitioned 20GB
[09:45] <eFfeM> psycho_oreos: any iea what lines or where I can find them, tried soem things (ie AIGLX="true" with no success)
[09:46] <psycho_oreos> Jon-, I'd use df -h to check free spaces in mounted directories and see where its using the most
[09:46] <eFfeM> Jon- uninstall some packages (e.g. docs)
[09:46] <Jon-> psycho_oreos: / is 18GB of 20GB
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> eFfeM, you need to specify GLX, I think it maybe option = "GLX" or something.. anyway these needs to be specified in /etc/xorg.conf
[09:47] <eFfeM> Jon- or cruedly remove all manpages
[09:47] <pawelekk> hello, which file is responsible for grub configuration? I want to delete some entries...
[09:47] <Jon-> eFfeM: what are some packages that can go, old kernel/docs?
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> Jon-, humm ok, disregard that.. use du -h --max-depth=1 /
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> pawelekk, which ubuntu version?
[09:48] <eFfeM> Jon- what can go depends on what you want to do with the system, doc related things are good candiates
[09:48] <pawelekk> ubuntu 9.10
[09:48] <psycho_oreos> !grub2 | pawelekk
[09:48] <Sonderblade> im running ubuntu on the company and everyone else windows. my browser is significantly slower than everyone elses. pages take much longer to load etc. any idea why?
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> Sonderblade, have you applied all the needed settings under corporate environment? such as proxy servers, etc?
[09:50] <Jon-> eFfeM: What sort of packages are doc related?
[09:50] <Sonderblade> psycho_oreos: yes
[09:50] <eFfeM> Jon- i'd say search in synaptic for doc and man
[09:50] <pawelekk> thx ubottu, I found it, it seems that ubuntu with grub has a new approach in editing entries
[09:50] <psycho_oreos> Jon-, all sorts of programs would tend to have a separate package appended with -doc.. Though if you remove those, you won't be able to read the associated help files for example
[09:51] <psycho_oreos> Sonderblade, even the dns, routing, etc?
[09:51] <Sonderblade> psycho_oreos: otherwise i wouldn't be able to use internet at all
[09:52] <Jon-> psycho_oreos: I can always extend the space on this partition but that is never fun to do
[09:52] <psycho_oreos> Sonderblade, wanted to doublecheck.. umm I'd try running traceroute on the linux box targeting a reliable host and use tracert on windows.. see if there's any latency issues.. if not its a browser issue
[09:53] <psycho_oreos> Jon-, well, there are many ways to slim down the size, its mainly to do with removing un-needed programs more or less
[09:54] <Jon-> ohhhh snappp I have virtual box on here
[09:54] <Jon-> there's 6 gigs gone. phew.
[09:54] <Qyu> how to register auth here?
[09:54] <psycho_oreos> auth? you meant nickname?
[09:55] <dagmarpelvis> I wan't to create a dualboot with a Backtrack4 VHD, can anyone help?
[09:55] <Qyu> yes
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> !register | Qyu
[09:57] <dagmarpelvis> good bajs!
[10:01] <SaBB1> how can i check that one program is installed in my ubuntu??
[10:01] <psycho_oreos> how was it installed?
[10:01] <SaBB1> no
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> no isn't a valid answer
[10:02] <SaBB1> i mean i installed gcc,now from terminal i wiould like to check that whether i have gcc installed on my machine
[10:02] <SaBB1> how can i do this?
[10:02] <erUSUL> SaBB1: gcc --version
[10:02] <SaBB1> ok
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> aptitude search gcc
[10:02] <SaBB1> ok thank you
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> which gcc
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> locate gcc, etc
[10:03] <SaBB1> gcc 4
[10:03] <ddrj> http://github.com/daymun/rtorrent-webui-installer <--- how do i get that whole folder as a .tar ?
[10:04] <erUSUL> SaBB1: in general you can do « apt-cache policy packagename » that will tell you if it is installed what version is installed aviable etc ...
[10:05] <SaBB1> erUSUL: thank you
[10:06] <penguinv> PROBLEM: my Ubuntu system keeps freezing. after being on a while, not at startup, 3x today.  I suspect it has to do with flash.  Using 9.10, old AMD computer, 10G HD, 2G free space.   Here's some info about my system.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396504/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396505/
[10:07] <Towbie> My system does not shutdown properly?
[10:07] <Towbie> Need Help
[10:09] <verb3k> Towbie, you can't get help with a general statement like that
[10:09] <interglacialman> penguininv - dont know if it's related but the logs you posted say there are lots of I/O errors on disk 'sr0'
[10:10] <Towbie> verb3k: can u help out?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:10] <verb3k> Towbie, I don't know
[10:10] <meero> im dowloading ubuntu images using zsync, but when im comparing md5 checksum, they are not match, can someone help me?
[10:10] <Towbie> verb3k: ok thanks
[10:10] <verb3k> Towbie, just state your problem and those who know will help
[10:10] <ddrj> how do you install stuff from github?
[10:10] <sylence> towbie he is teling you to be more specific
[10:10] <Towbie> verb3k:.... thanks
[10:10] <abracadab> Ubuntu is running slowly here - requesting links to good docs on speeding up Ubuntu. Thanks
[10:11] <iceroot> abracadab: look at top what is eating the cpu/ram
[10:11] <Towbie> Can somebody help me out..... My system does not shutdown properly, i have to hold the Power button to shut down manually, which is not ideal?
[10:12] <Towbie> I just need to get it sorted and shutdown manually
[10:12] <wazzaaaaa> !bum
[10:12] <Towbie> what might be the problem
[10:12] <yohannbzh> Hi I have a problem since I upgraded my Ubuntu. When I launch python and try to import wx, i have an ImportError : No module named wx
[10:12] <iceroot> Towbie: acpi enabled? atx-board?
[10:12] <yohannbzh> but when I do 'sudo apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxgtk2.8-dbg python-wxversion', they are already install
[10:12] <yohannbzh> if I go in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages there is wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode
[10:12] <Towbie> the splash screen (the ubuntu image screen) hangs while shutting down
[10:12] <yohannbzh> And when I launch python in the console, it is Python 2.5.2
[10:13] <Towbie> iceroot: dont know
[10:13] <interglacialman> penguinv: the errors in the logs are from your cdrom " sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 125x/48x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray" - i'd try disconnecting it for starters and see if it makes things better
[10:13] <Gina_Calabrese> The internet works on my Ubuntu install but when I open a web browser it won't navigate to any pages whatsoever. I've tried with Google Chrome and Firefox.
[10:13] <Towbie> iceroot: what do you think might be the prb?
[10:13] <lpollio> ciao a tutti
[10:14] <hal> ubottu: samba | hal
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> yohannbzh: you will need to install or compile that module for your current kernel
[10:14] <abracadab> iceroot: 'top' apps are xorg, firefox, metacity, pidgen, gnome-terminal. Total CPU used fluctuates between 5% and 30%.
[10:14] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: That's not a kernel module.
[10:14] <penguinv> interglacialman. would you explain? Could it be the disk I had in there (though unused)?
[10:14] <wgrant> yohannbzh: What did you upgrade from, and what to?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: try: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf and add these 2 lines:  nameserver 8.8.8.8        nameserver 8.8.4.4
[10:14] <penguinv> and interglacialman thank you for looking
[10:14] <DoDi> hi
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: i see, my bad
[10:15] <lpollio> il mio inglese è penoso ma mi serve aiuto
[10:15] <iceroot> abracadab: and ram?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: save the new file and close gedit, then restart your browser. Is it ok?
[10:15] <ddrj> how do i install from here? http://github.com/daymun/rtorrent-webui-installer do i do svn checkout http://urlhere ?
[10:15] <interglacialman> penguinv. maybe either the drive or the disk within it - try removing the disk and then disconnect the drive if it's still a problem
[10:16] <penguinv> interglacialman, I've been avoiding using flash at all and so far no problem.
[10:16] <abracadab> iceroot: 1GB, I think. What command will verify that?
[10:16] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: I'm gonna have to go into Ubuntu (dual boot Vista/Ubuntu) and test it out.
[10:16] <iceroot> abracadab: top
[10:16] <iceroot> abracadab: or free -m
[10:16] <yohannbzh> wgrant: from Linux version 2.6.24-19-generic to Linux version 2.6.24-27-generic
[10:16] <penguinv> What tells you that there is a disk problem. (If you'ev already told me I am sorry I didnt understand.)
[10:16] <interglacialman> penguinv. flash will not cause I/O errors - coud be problem with sr0 if the delays are related to the errors in the logs you posted
[10:17] <erUSUL> ddrj: you use git i'm sure github has some tutorial in its web
[10:17] <erUSUL> !info git-core | ddrj
[10:17] <ddrj> thanks man checkin
[10:17] <abracadab> iceroot: top says 1GB total, 6.5 MB used.
[10:17] <_Agent86_> hey
[10:17] <iceroot> abracadab: please paste the output of free -m to pastebin
[10:18] <abracadab> iceroot: pastebin?
[10:18] <lpollio> nessuno può ascoltarmi?
[10:18] <interglacialman> penguinv. i would just disconnect the cd drive and see if the problem goes away - the errors might be a red-herring
[10:18] <basncy> Does anybody know where the SYSCLOCK (C program language) define
[10:18] <iceroot> !paste | abracadab
[10:18] <_Agent86_> Problem with gparted - changing size on a secondary hdd on a virtual machine, Keeps failing, saying that /dev/sdb1 (the part in question) is still mounted. Umount tells me that it isn't mounted, according to mtab. What do I do?
[10:19] <erUSUL> !it | lpollio
[10:19] <lpollio> thank you
[10:20] <abracadab> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396626/
[10:20] <erUSUL> lpollio: mo problem
[10:20] <Ramsrambo> Hi!
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Do IRSSI scripts have any special headers on them?
[10:20] <iceroot> abracadab: looks good, no problem with ram
[10:21] <Ramsrambo> I have a problem with new installation can someone help?
[10:21] <penguinv> interglacialman, I have removed the disk, at the last reboot.  How does this line -->" sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 125x/48x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray"  tell me that this is an error?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Ramsrambo
[10:22] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: only shebang (perl)
[10:22] <Ramsrambo> I did download ISO file and burned it on to a new cd and I installed ubuntu under windows
[10:22] <bilalakhtar> does anyone over here knows what COULD be the name of ubuntu 10.10
[10:22] <ddrj> erUSUL: so would i use the git merge command after installin git ?
[10:22] <iceroot> bilalakhtar: no
[10:22] <Ramsrambo> After installation it did connect to the internet and updated lot of things
[10:22] <wgrant> bilalakhtar: It /could/ be anything.
[10:22] <abracadab> iceroot: thanks. any other suggestions or pointers to docs for speed boosts? (other than: "buy a faster machine"). ;)
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: cheers dude
[10:22] <bazhang> bilalakhtar, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:22] <interglacialman> penguinv - what I quoted was just the name of the cd-rom drive as it appeard in the logs - the drive that was creating all the error messages
[10:23] <bilalakhtar> bazhang: Ok no poblem
[10:23] <erUSUL> ddrj: "git pull <url>" to get the sources
[10:23] <iceroot> abracadab: disable compiz (the desktop effects) check the speed of the hdd (hdparm)
[10:23] <ddrj> thanks
[10:23] <Ramsrambo> While I was working it suddenly stoped working
[10:23] <Aciid> abracadab: preload, swap size twice as ram.
[10:23] <iceroot> abracadab: look if "w" in top is high (which is (w)aiting for the io-devices)
[10:23] <bazhang> Ramsrambo, this is a wubi install?
[10:23] <Ramsrambo> now in the bootmenu if I select Ubuntu for booting I am unable to see the login screen
[10:24] <nucc1> Aciid, if you have 4Gig of ram, its wasteful to do that
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: define "stopped" please
[10:24] <penguinv> so the fact that it was mentioned, tells you there was an error in it. OK.  I thank you. I have pasted all this to a gedit file so I can look at it later. Good night then.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: what do you get?
[10:24] <Ramsrambo> It was hanging and I thought it went to hibernation and I tried shaking the mouse
[10:24] <Ramsrambo> but it did not show anything on the screen
[10:25] <Ramsrambo> so I had hardboot
[10:25] <Aciid> nucc1: if it's not a problem, then swap is always ok. atleast in fileservers/p2å clients
[10:25] <Aciid> *p2p
[10:25] <penguinv> interglacialman, Thanks. I have learned that the fact that it was mentioned, tells you there was an error in it. OK.  I thank you. I have pasted all this to a gedit file so I can look at it later. Good night then.
[10:25] <interglacialman> penguinv - no problem
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: can you boot to recovery mode root console?
[10:25] <jatt> hi, in 9.10 the fonts for the help of applications (e.g. evolution) is too big for me, where can I configure the font for the Help program?
[10:25] <Ramsrambo> How can I go to recovery console?
[10:25] <dayz> hi
[10:26] <nucc1> Aciid, if you have lots of RAM, then it's better to have Swap simply be at least equal to RAM.
[10:26] <narendra> hi
[10:26] <Ramsrambo> When I select ubuntu from the boot menu it goes to some shell kind of thing
[10:26] <Jammet> Hello there :)
[10:26] <Ramsrambo> is that the one
[10:26] <Aciid> nucc1: is 4GB the thumbrule upwards to equal the swap
[10:26] <Ramsrambo> called recovery console
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: is it named busybox?
[10:27] <narendra> how i can make one panel for all users
[10:27] <ngirard> Hi all. How can I get Nautilus to take into account the new template i've put into ~/templates ?
[10:27] <Ramsrambo> nope it says something like grub
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: please use my nick at the start of lines, its very confusing otherwise, you can use tab to complete nicks
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: i see ok then your grub is borked
[10:27] <Jammet> When I tried updating this morning, I got this message from update manager: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic_2.6.31-20.58_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic')
[10:28] <Jammet> Can somebody help me and tell me what it means, and what I can do to correct it?
[10:28] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : what do I have to do in order to recover from there?
[10:28] <nucc1> Aciid, for a desktop or laptop, yes. having 8GB of swap is just pure waste of space. the more ram you have, the less swap you need. Swap only needs equal RAM for the sake of Suspend and Hibernate
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: do you know which partition your boot is on?
[10:28] <narendra> can someone tell me how i can make one panel for all newly created users any trick involving /etc/skel ?
[10:28] <Aciid> aah
[10:29] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : nope I know that it is on my third disk
[10:29] <nucc1> Aciid, and the reason why it is recommended Double the RAM, is that on Hibernate, or Suspend, your RAM+currently_used_swap is stored *in* swap.
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 scroll to "command line and rescue mode"
[10:30] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : lettme check this one
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: i havent used wubi (and think the idea stinks) so you cannot boot to liveCD to fix grub but the guide should tell you how to kick the boot off manually then you can fix grub on the desktop
[10:31] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : I hv used wubi installed under Win XP
[10:32] <ddavids_> pls how do i edit my network config to automatically detect network?
[10:32] <thenthenio> Hello, I have Ubuntu server 8.0.4 installed with eBox, Mac clients cannot connect to samba shares, any ideas?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: i know, thats gonna really hold back on what you can do to fix this
[10:32] <Meltok> Hi! Is anybody here how has experience with python regex? I know its somehow offtopic but i don't won't to register, only to be able to join #python. :) You can qry me though. Thx in advance!
[10:33] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : is it advicable to uninstall and reinstall this?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Ramsrambo: if its a clean install, why not. Did you MD5 test the wubi file you downloaded?
[10:34] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip : Nope I did not do that How can I do that?
[10:34] <itai> hi there, i have a lot of folders with various contents , is there a command that will move only folders containing mp3 to anpother directory ?
[10:34] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: Terminal wouldn't even load the file, let alone let me edit it.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: /etc/resolv.conf is a standard unix file
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> thenthenio: can they ping the server?
[10:35] <thenthenio> Yes
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> thenthenio: can they telnet to the samba socket?
[10:35] <Ramsrambo> ActionParsnip  : How can I check the ISO image for MD5?
[10:35] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: I went into the system files, found the file, edited it, but then it wouldn't let me save it.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !MD5 | Ramsrambo
[10:36] <abracadab> iceroot: re, disabling compiz: System > Preferences > Visual Effects are set to "None". Is there more to disabling compiz than that?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: did you use: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   like I told you
[10:36] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: Yes I did.
[10:36] <thenthenio> ActionParsnip: smbclient works on Mac but the file browser does not (not with smb: not with cifs:)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: if you just open it with gedit without gksudo, it will not be re-saveable
[10:37] <Life_Support> hi all I have a problem last night looks liked  repeared but apiared again
[10:37] <Life_Support> with the last ubuntu update
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> thenthenio: try adding an smbuser for the mac peeps to use, it will give authentication. I've not used mac but if they use some weird samba protocol you may get issues
[10:37] <thenthenio> ActionParsnip: anyway the Mac works with other samba shares (QNAP NAS)!!!
[10:38] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: Was I actually supposed to enter the text you told me to in Terminal or something else?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: yes, the gksudo command will open the file with elevated access, the resolv.conf is owned by root so if you open it as a user you wont get write access as you are only a user
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: the  nameserver bits are very easy to remember and are googles public dns servers, if you add them you may get web access
[10:39] <Huba> *looking
[10:40] <hoonches> is there a way to make a shortcut that executes commands in terminal?
[10:40] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: How instant was Terminal's reaction to my command supposed to be? It just sat there looking at me.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: i believe if you right click it -> properties there is "run in terminal"
[10:41] <hoonches> ActionParsnip: so you just make a text file?
[10:41] <thenthenio> ActionParsnip: add an user entry in /etc/samba/smbuser ?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Gina_Calabrese: it will but gedit should have ran. Try pressing ALT+F2 and typing the command in there
[10:42] <Life_Support> hey ppl can somebody tell me how to roll back ubuntu update image
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> thenthenio: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     type your login password for authentication as well as the samba password (makes life easier). When you connect you wil be challenged for a password
[10:42] <Gina_Calabrese> ActionParsnip: Time for another reboot. I'll be back.
[10:43] <hoonches> ActionParsnip: how do you get it to fill in a username and password as well?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> thenthenio: you could also implement an FTP server instead if its only LAN access. ssh also gives secure file transfers :)
[10:43] <itai> can anyone tell me what the command "find / -iname "*.mp3" -type f | xargs -I '{}' mv {} $HOME/mp3" will do?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: how do you mean?
[10:44] <hoonches> well i want a shortcut that will execute openvpn then enter my username and password when the prompts for it come up
[10:44] <hal> i've installed swat, for samba admin.  Does anyone know how I start it, please?
[10:44] <hoonches> hal: "What are you doing, Dave?"
[10:45] <hal> hoonches: :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: the terminal will handle that, you could use a gui app to flash up a text input box if you wanna be flash :)
[10:45] <erUSUL> hal: it is running? swat is used via web browser
[10:45] <thenthenio> ActionParsnip: the client users would not appreciate that...
[10:45] <ikonia> swat is normally launched from inet/xinetd ?
[10:46] <ikonia> make sure it's enabled in either
[10:46] <hoonches> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, I didn't understand that.
[10:46] <dayz> hi
[10:46] <hal> ikonia: erUSUL I can't find any file about swat using find /etc -name '*swat*'
[10:46] <iceroot> abracadab: thats all
[10:46] <dayz> i'm trying to uninstall firefox, but synaptic says it's 'locked to the current version'. how do i unlock it?
[10:46] <iceroot> abracadab: maybe you are on jaunty with an intel card?
[10:47] <ngirard> How can I get Nautilus to take into account the new template i've put into ~/Templates ? Even restarting Nautilus doesn't get the menu to refresh
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_gdialog.htm    you can use gdialog to flash up an X based input box (rather than terminal) so You can fill out data there. You wont need the terminal then as the script will run in the background ;)
[10:47] <erUSUL> hal: fire up a browser and go to http://localhost:901
[10:47] <ikonia> hal: its normally configured and run from inetd/xinetd
[10:47] <hal> erUSUL: it's not - i've done a port scan
[10:47] <hoonches> ActionParsnip: what if I want to enter the username and password automatically?
[10:47] <hal> ikonia: what is the best way in ubuntu to start and stop services.  I am used to centos before now
[10:48] <ae86-drifter> kill
[10:48] <ikonia> hal: same way
[10:48] <erUSUL> hal: a port scan may not trigger [x]inetd to launch it ...
[10:48] <rww> hal: sudo service servicenamehere start/stop/restart/whatever
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: you'd have to look at the man page of the app, if you can store the credentials some place then you can simply tell the app to use the file.
[10:48] <Life_Support> hey can someone help me plss
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: what app is it again please
[10:49] <hoonches> openvpn
[10:49] <hal> ikonia: in centos it's service [servicename] start|stop|status - that doesn't seem to work on ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> hal: use the init script or invoke-rc.d
[10:49] <hal> ikonia: ah, actually I have tried it again on samba and it worked.  What is the best way of restarting xinetd ?
[10:50] <ikonia> hal: it's a service, the same as any other
[10:50] <dgeary2> how does one get network manager to prompt them for a username and password for wired 8021x authentication on every attempt to connect?
[10:50] <Oli``> hal: `sudo [start|stop|restart] service` or `sudo /etc/init.d/service [action]`
[10:51] <hal> Oli``: thanks - yes that works
[10:51] <hal> ikonia: service xinetd restart does not work
[10:51] <ikonia> I didn't say it would
[10:51] <ikonia> hal: I told you to use the init script or invoke-rc.d
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: if you look in  /etc/openvpn there may be a file you can put your account into, this will then be used by default
[10:52] <hal> ikonia: there is no init script in /etc/init.d for xinetd
[10:52] <hal> ikonia: sorry if I am misunderstanding what you have said
[10:52] <ikonia> hal: are you sure its xinetd and not inetd ?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: theres also /etc/vpnc/myvpn.conf which is deatiled here, you can add the account there maybe. BACKUP *ALL* files you edit so you can easily roll back
[10:53] <erUSUL> hal: is it even installed ? according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> hoonches: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[10:53] <erUSUL> hal: you have to do the set up by hand
[10:53] <theadmin> Why the heck all files on my NTFS drive(s) are counted as executable?
[10:54] <hal> erUSUL: there is an entry in inetd.conf for swat - I just need to know how to restart inetd, don't I ?
[10:54] <erUSUL> theadmin: mount options
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ntfs does that afaik, dont sweat it
[10:54] <theadmin> erUSUL: Hm? How to mount it normally? I'll paste my fstab now.
[10:54] <erUSUL> hal: correct so it is plain intd not xinetd ...
[10:54] <Life_Support> ppl my ubuntu freezes after update
[10:54] <erUSUL> theadmin: check the fmask umask dmask values if any
[10:55] <theadmin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/396634/
[10:55] <hal> erUSUL: ah, right, thank you.  But there is no initd script in init.d.  Is this what I need to set up myself?
[10:56] <erUSUL> hal: /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd ??
[10:56] <ikonia> it even says it in the guide
[10:57] <erUSUL> it mentions both xinitd and inetutils-inetd (probably you can not have both installled at the same time)
[10:57] <ikonia> you can't
[10:57] <hal> erUSUL: no, there is no inetutils-inetd
[10:57] <ikonia> but as he's not using xinetd....common sense says he should use the inetd script
[10:57] <erUSUL> hal: so you do not have any inetd program installed? install one. Follow the guide i posted.
[10:58] <theadmin> erUSUL: Does this look normal? (link above)
[10:58] <hal> erUSUL: ah, ok thank you
[10:58] <erUSUL> theadmin: sorry loooking it now
[10:58] <Younder> I had my machine hacked into! what should I do?
[10:59] <Life_Support> ppl can you tell me how undder bash minimal to set mi UBUNTU to load older linux-image (not the update)
[10:59] <bazhang> Younder, what makes you say that
[10:59] <Younder> Ive done the usuall, bastill, UFW, tripwire
[10:59] <theadmin> Life_Support: I think... "boot IMAGE" does it in GRUB prompt
[10:59] <ikonia> Younder: re-install
[10:59] <elky> Younder, If you're concerned, first thing to do is change all passwords
[10:59] <Life_Support> it freezes
[10:59] <erUSUL> theadmin: umask=007 --> gives files 770 permissiosn --> rwxrwx--- so they are executable
[11:00] <Life_Support> when I try to run any of them
[11:00] <ikonia> Younder: you need to fully re-install your machine to be confident you are in a safe position
[11:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: by owner and group that's it
[11:00] <theadmin> erUSUL: Ahem. What should i put so they are 660?
[11:00] <Younder> ikonia, that sound like the sanest solution as I can trust nothing
[11:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: may i ask why you use the read only ntfs driver? and not ntfs-3g ?
[11:00] <ikonia> exactly
[11:01] <theadmin> erUSUL: Huh? It seems to me i can write to this disc just fine. Ubuntu mounted it this way during install :/
[11:01] <erUSUL> theadmin: if you want 660 permissions do umask=117
[11:01] <theadmin> erUSUL: And yep, i can write
[11:01] <erUSUL> theadmin: paste /proc/mounts file
[11:01] <Pupeno> Does anybody know of a program that can re-format a sql file?
[11:02] <theadmin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/396636/
[11:03] <theadmin> erUSUL: ^
[11:03] <erUSUL> theadmin: that's becouse you are not using that fstab entry you are using this /dev/sda2 /media/windows fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[11:03] <Life_Support> does any one can tell me how to set to load older image
[11:03] <Younder> Ionia: truly regret that they got through. not as clever as I though
[11:03] <erUSUL> theadmin: so the system mounted it with ntfs-3g when you double clicked it
[11:04] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[11:04] <ikonia> Life_Support: you load older kernels that still exist on your system from your grub menu
[11:04] <theadmin> erUSUL: Sorry, what? o_O Oh. I see.
[11:04] <theadmin> So that fstab modification was useless, erUSUL?
[11:04] <Younder> ikonia,  I deteted them
[11:04] <ikonia> Younder: I was talking to Life_Support
[11:04] <ben__864> Hello
[11:04] <theadmin> Hi, ben__864
[11:05] <Life_Support> ikonia still freezes
[11:05] <ikonia> what still freezes ?
[11:05] <Life_Support> no matter wich one
[11:05] <Younder> ikonia,  anyhow the newest kernel predates the attack
[11:05] <ikonia> Life_Support: ok - so the problem is not with your kernel
[11:05] <ben__864> Can I talk Ubuntu here?
[11:05] <erUSUL> theadmin: you can use it « sudo mount /media/windows » (you probably must umount /dev/sda2 first)
[11:05] <ikonia> Younder: I'm not talking about your attck, I'm talking to Life_Support - that's why I keep saying his nickname
[11:05] <theadmin> erUSUL: Okay.
[11:05] <theadmin> ben__864: If you have a support question, then yes
[11:06] <Life_Support> It was working properly until I updated to 2.6.30-20
[11:06] <ikonia> Life_Support: well if going to older kernels still causes you a problem it's either a.) an update that came down at the same time as the new kernel. b.) a hardware error
[11:06] <Younder> ikonia, taking down a supercomputer cost'd on the order of 1 000 000 $ a week. I'd better have a plan. (or start looking for another job)
[11:06] <topolino_> hello
[11:06] <ikonia> Younder: I am not interested in discussing your attack or the reprocussions of it
[11:07] <topolino_> I need help with my ubuntu
[11:07] <topolino_> Im a noob when it comes to linux...
[11:07] <hal> erUSUL: ikonia - I had checked the /etc/inetd.conf file to confirm that swat was not commented.  However, swat was not responding on 901.  Then I ran update-inetd --enable swat , and this fixed the issue
[11:07] <theadmin> Hm. "uptime" returned "14:05:28 up 14 min,  2 users,  load average: 1.79, 1.26, 0.75", whilst i am the only one logged in... 2 users? what the?
[11:07] <theadmin> topolino_: Ask
[11:07] <Younder> ikonia, neither am I. It's my bed. I have to sleep in it.
[11:07] <ben__864> May I use name1234 this kind of acount name?
[11:07] <topolino_> i need help instaling aMSN and flash player with google chrome...
[11:07] <Life_Support> ikonia I found some topic in forums but I'm unable to find it again :(
[11:08] <erUSUL> hal: ok; congrats :)
[11:08] <topolino_> i never instaled anything on linux..I'm a windows user..and this is al new for me
[11:08] <topolino_> can anyone help?
[11:08] <ikonia> !synaptic | topolino_
[11:08] <hal> erUSUL: ikonia thank you both for your advice
[11:08] <z0man> Quick question with Acer Laptops::::::: They come preinstalled with Vista and no OS cd, how safe is it to installing Ubuntu on the laptop that uses a hidden partition system?
[11:08] <topolino_> jes i tried
[11:08] <topolino_> synaptic...
[11:08] <theadmin> topolino_: As for flash and Chrome, this is kinda buggy. You can do "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE" in order to install a program, so for Flash, we do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[11:08] <erUSUL> !software | topolino_
[11:09] <zeko> hi guys, i want to do a fresh install of ubuntu, wiping out winxp+previous ubuntu. I need to backup my data, so i did install samba when using the liveCD, but when i try to share a folder it asks me to change the config by adding a line to smb.conf, where can i find it?
[11:09] <ikonia> z0man: safe is you want if you don't want to use the recovery partitiona again
[11:09] <theadmin> topolino_: And chrome? Just download it from chrome.google.com, double-click and tada
[11:09] <topolino_> i've tryed using synaptic but it opens me
[11:09] <topolino_> message ..the pacage not found
[11:09] <topolino_> or something like that
[11:09] <z0man> Think I'd like to keep the hidden partition as an option for them to go back to Vista just incase.
[11:09] <topolino_> my copy of ubuntu is 5 years old..
[11:09] <ikonia> topolino_: how are you trying to open it
[11:09] <Chousuke> theadmin: run 'w' to see who's logged in
[11:10] <topolino_> verison 5.04
[11:10] <Chousuke> theadmin: it might be just you, twice :9
[11:10] <z0man> think I may bite the bullet
[11:10] <topolino_> I've opend synptic thing...
[11:10] <ikonia> topolino_: that version is no longer supported or available, you'll need to re-install with a supported/current version
[11:10] <z0man> And see if it removes the hidden partition
[11:10] <topolino_> and shearched for the file i downloaded
[11:10] <Chousuke> theadmin: I'm logged in four times right now :P
[11:10] <topolino_> on desktop
[11:10] <ikonia> topolino_: that is why the packages no longer exist
[11:10] <theadmin> Chousuke: wtf.
[11:10] <z0man> I'll blog my findings at z0mans-dev
[11:10] <theadmin> Ahem, sorry.
[11:10] <Chousuke> theadmin: one console session and three terminals
[11:10] <ben__864> Is this one to many??
[11:10] <topolino_> but I've downloaded it on the desktop
[11:10] <theadmin> I'm only logged in to X right now, so what the heck
[11:11] <Chousuke> theadmin: well, if you run a terminal in X it might count as a login
[11:11] <theadmin> Chousuke: Oh. Right.
[11:11] <hibatullah> hello the admin..
[11:11] <theadmin> hibatullah: Hi.
[11:11] <z0man> Thanks for responding Ikonia
[11:11] <topolino_> ok ikonia thank you
[11:11] <hibatullah> im biborn
[11:11] <hibatullah> stillremember me?
[11:11] <theadmin> hibatullah: Somewhat.
[11:11] <hibatullah> tehadmin: still remeber me?
[11:12] <Younder> ikonia, you are har but fair. I will shut down for a week
[11:12] <ben__864> Is this a free to talk area?
[11:12] <theadmin> Hm. I didn't know screen came as default part of installation o_O
[11:12] <Younder> hard
[11:12] <theadmin> ben__864: You can ask any support questions here, for random chat, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <ikonia> Younder: please stop, unless you have a support question
[11:12] <bazhang> ben__864, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[11:12] <ddavids> i just read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24994, is it possible to setup a config for 2 wired networks?
[11:13] <server_> asdf
[11:13] <ddavids> i just read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24994, is it possible to setup a config for 2 wired networks and automatically switch when one is down or choose which to use...?
[11:16] <hibatullah> hello averybody..anybody use irssi client?i need some help with it.
[11:16] <ben__864> Please tell me how to switch into off-topic chat?
[11:16] <bazhang> ben__864, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <zeko> hi guys, does anyone know the password for the root in the livecd
[11:17] <ikonia> zeko: there isn't one
[11:17] <erUSUL> !root | zeko
[11:17] <ikonia> zeko: that's what sudo is for
[11:17] <hibatullah> yes..
[11:17] <zeko> oh k thanks
[11:17] <erUSUL> zeko: just use sudo command (it will not ask for password)
[11:17] <hibatullah> there is no root passwrd..
[11:17] <hibatullah> it is beterr not to use root.
[11:18] <hibatullah> it is vulnerable.
[11:18] <erUSUL> !rootshell > zeko
[11:18] <hibatullah> hello averybody..anybody use irssi client?i need some help with it.
[11:18] <ikonia> hibatullah: many people use it and there is a support channel called #irssi
[11:18] <erUSUL> !anybody | hibatullah
[11:18] <hibatullah> theadmin:u ise pidgin rite?
[11:19] <theadmin> hibatullah: Yeah
[11:19] <zeko> i am trying to transfer files using samba  it asks for a  password
[11:19] <zeko> i am using livecd,
[11:19] <hibatullah> ikonia:im going there! thanx so much!
[11:20] <ikonia> zeko: that is the user password for the target
[11:20] <erUSUL> zeko: maybe it is the windows share pasword
[11:21] <zeko> ikonia, erusul: i installed samba using livecd, i wanted to backup files, so i enabled the share options for some of the folders, but when i am accessing from other comp it asks for the server=ubuntu(where the filesare)
[11:22] <ikonia> zeko: then it's the user password for the SAMBA user
[11:24] <theadmin> What's the difference between /dev/null and /dev/zero anyway?
[11:25] <erUSUL> theadmin: zero gives you zeros when you read from it and you can not writte to it
[11:26] <theadmin> hm. indeed. "cat /dev/zero" freezes the terminal lol
[11:26] <Younder> ikonia, fixed, thank go I didn't listen to you
[11:26] <erUSUL> theadmin: null ablivierates wverything you writte to it and afaik you can not read from it (or if you do you get NULL)
[11:26] <Younder> god
[11:26] <hibatullah> ikonia:there is nobody in #irssi chanell
[11:27] <theadmin> erUSUL: You can read from null but get nothing
[11:27] <ikonia> hibatullah: there are hundreds of people
[11:27] <hibatullah> but i got zero respon.
[11:27] <ikonia> hibatullah: people may not be active at this time
[11:28] <Younder> ikonia, wanna know HOW i fixed it?
[11:28] <ikonia> no
[11:29] <bazhang> !ot > Younder
[11:29] <ikonia> Younder: that is not on topic for this channel, please stop talking about it, this is your only warning
[11:29] <Life_Support> ikonia
[11:29] <Life_Support> linux vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda6 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro
[11:29] <ikonia> yes
[11:29] <Life_Support> initrd initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[11:29] <OerHeks> theadmin try read from /dev/random
[11:29] <Life_Support> I found the commands that helped me last time
[11:29] <theadmin> OerHeks: better not suggest that, it's o_Oish
[11:29] <Life_Support> to start older imh
[11:29] <Life_Support> img*
[11:30] <ikonia> Life_Support: that's not starting older, that's just mounting a loop back disk, but you are free to do what you want
[11:30] <erUSUL> OerHeks: theadmin /dev/random should not be used. use /dev/urandom
[11:30] <Life_Support> i'm still newbie so I me looks like idiot but ...
[11:30] <theadmin> erUSUL: ...And again, where's the difference?
[11:30] <Younder> ikonia, never got your private message
[11:31] <ikonia> Life_Support: you don't look like an idiot at all, but as I've explained if you've booted older kernels and the problem still happens it's a.) not the kernel b.) a hardware problem
[11:31] <bazhang> Younder, take chat elsewhere please
[11:31] <ikonia> Younder: I never sent you a private message
[11:31] <Younder> ikonia, Ok, i'll just hut up...
[11:31] <Younder> shut
[11:31] <Life_Support> ikonia when I boot ubuntu how to chek for a problem
[11:32] <erUSUL> theadmin: random is trully random and a scarce resource in a system so you should not abuse it; urandom is pseudorandom and you can read from it without emptying it
[11:32] <ikonia> Life_Support: err you're telling me it freezes, so if it doesn't freeze I'd assume no problem
[11:32] <Life_Support> so I'll explain it long way
[11:32] <nmvictor> i have installed ubuntu in my iBook and the notification area could not load due to some error, how do i access the network coz im used to the network icon in the notification area?
[11:32] <theadmin> erUSUL: Well, urandom is random enough :D
[11:32] <Life_Support> this morning started updater
[11:32] <OerHeks> erUSUL i see, /dev/urandom takes the pool of /dev/random to ensure a real random number generation from random numbers?
[11:32] <erUSUL> nmvictor: try to add a new notification area to one of the panels?
[11:33] <Life_Support> that shows me there is new linux-img I give to it to install and it showed me gnu grub 1.97~beta4
[11:33] <erUSUL> OerHeks: theadmin correct
[11:33] <Life_Support> after that I entered here
[11:34] <nmvictor> erUSUL: i tried but i couldnt find it in the "Add to panel dialog box ..."
[11:34] <Life_Support> and ask they give me the idea to run older version I runned img 2.6.31-17 and runned
[11:34] <de9ine|two> hi :D
[11:34] <de9ine|two> I'm having some trouble with the network settings in Firefox
[11:34] <ikonia> Life_Support: I'm really sorry, you're not making any sense to me at all
[11:34] <theadmin> nmvictor: It's not there, it's in the System Notification Area, it's not an applet on it's own
[11:34] <erUSUL> nmvictor: should be there ... notification area
[11:35] <Stargaze> nmvictor, type alt-f2 nm-applet
[11:35] <de9ine|two> Or rather, I don't have any network settings in firefox at all.
[11:35] <Life_Support> ikonia may I write it to private to make you sense because my english is poor
[11:35] <nmvictor> i get this message when i log in, Xsession: warning xrdb command not found, X resources not managed, what could be the problem?
[11:35] <ikonia> I don't think a private message would make it any clearer, I understand your English is not th best. What is your native language
[11:35] <ikonia> Life_Support: what language do you speak ?
[11:36] <Life_Support> bulgarian
[11:36] <hipitihop> I'm experiencing strange behaviour trying to add a user using the UI, is there a known bug I should be aware about ?
[11:36] <theadmin> hipitihop: What exactly do you get?
[11:36] <de9ine|two> Any one know how i can get the network settings tab in the "advanced" tab of the fire fox settings?
[11:36] <erUSUL> nmvictor: this command comes in x11-xserver-utils
[11:36] <erUSUL> nmvictor: (re)install the package
[11:36] <Life_Support> ok I'll try to make it clear to you here
[11:36] <hoonches> does netsetman work in ubuntu?
[11:36] <ikonia> Life_Support: what language do you speak normally
[11:36] <Life_Support> Bulgarian
[11:37] <ikonia> Life_Support: have you tried the ubuntu Bulgarian channel
[11:37] <Life_Support> I do not know it
[11:37] <ikonia> !bg | Life_Support
[11:37] <hipitihop> theadmin, at times when I authenticate, it just sits there... other times even though I get past authentication and then add a user, when I come back into the ui, the new user is no longer listed but if I try and add the same user, I get an error that the group already exists
[11:37] <Life_Support> thank  you
[11:38] <nmvictor> theadmin: erUSUL maybe you should not that i get the message "panel ecountered error while loading djkdjkljkd...some funny word, same for fast user swicth applet, the notification area, the volume control appalet and many more, when i try to add them , they are not present in the dialog box,
[11:38] <Stargaze> hoonches, it's an .exe file, it's for windows
[11:38] <hoonches> Stargaze: is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[11:38] <erUSUL> nmvictor: you can try to reset panel to default settings ...
[11:38] <Stargaze> hoonches, what does it do?
[11:39] <erUSUL> !resetpanel | nmvictor
[11:40] <hipitihop> theadmin, either way, I seem to not be able to add a user ... if I log out it is not listed in the user/session/login screen
[11:40] <Stargaze> hoonches, try this link => http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=64
[11:40] <harry> Hi There
[11:40] <nmvictor> erUSUL: thanks, i think it was not just installed
[11:40] <theadmin> hipitihop: Can you use "adduser"?
[11:41] <hipitihop> theadmin, I haven't tried, I have always used the ui
[11:41] <fodder70> using ubuntu 9.10 update manager   error :- Reading database... 85%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open the files list for package 'linux-headers-generic': Input/output error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[11:41] <erUSUL> nmvictor: ok; to make sure everything you need is installed install (x;k)ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[11:42] <hoonches> is there a firewall I can use to block traffic to and from certain applications?
[11:42] <dob_> hi did anybody use a oppurtunistic encryption with ipsec / racoon??? I want that my server automatically connect to each other via ipsec
[11:42] <Ramsrambo> actionsnip : are u available still
[11:43] <erUSUL> !firewall | hoonches
[11:43] <hipitihop> theadmin, just tried, and it claims not to be able to lock /etc/passwd
[11:43] <Stargaze> hoonches, try gufw (that's graphic uncomplicated firewall)
[11:43] <theadmin> hipitihop: Did you run it with sudo?
[11:43] <hipitihop> theadmin, yes
[11:43] <li> hello
[11:44] <Stargaze> !hi| li
[11:44] <li> I am from china,
[11:44] <li> hi, Strargaze ,Nice to meet you
[11:44] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:45] <li> Strgaze, where are you from ?
[11:45] <dob_> any ideas about opportunistic encryption?
[11:46] <dayz> does anyone know why everytime i middle click in my chrome or firefox, it goes back? i've tried recreating the profile, etc. does anyone know how to stop that?
[11:46] <theadmin> dayz: Middle click pastes whatever you have in your clipboard to adress bar
[11:47] <dayz> theadmin, yes, but it goes back in firefox and in chrome as well.
[11:47] <hipitihop> theadmin, what would cause that ?
[11:47] <dayz> theadmin, in essence, i can't paste anything because it forces to go back.
[11:47] <theadmin> dayz: What about Ctrl+V? :/
[11:48] <dayz> theadmin, well, i want to fix the middle click so that it doesn't go back.
[11:51] <york105> @dayz the middle click thing is something that's implemented by compiz, you can change that by going to System > Preferences > Compiz
[11:51] <theadmin> york105: There is no "Compiz" in Preferences
[11:52] <dayz> york105, i see. which plugin would that be?
[11:52] <york105> how about compiz config settings manager (or something on those lines)
[11:52] <hateball> !ccsm
[11:55] <RichiH> refresh my memory.... how do i mount partitions inside an image? i losetup the image and see the partitions within my loop device, but i can't access them.. i know the fix is trivial, but i keep on forgetting it
[11:55] <york105> dayz, are you on gnome or kde?
[11:55] <Stargaze> dayz, in FF, type about:config > middlemouse.paste;true
[11:56] <Stargaze> dayz, in FF, type about:config > middlemouse.paste;true -- i think chrome can import FF settings
[11:59] <desaints> anyone feel like helping me out for a minute
[11:59] <Stargaze> !ask| desaints
[12:00] <desaints> you could have typed "sure"
[12:00] <desaints> :P
[12:00] <Karmic> with what desaints
[12:00] <desaints> having a problem with a premade virtual machine
[12:01] <desaints> there is no network connection all i am getting is a loopback interface
[12:01] <dayz> york105, hi again. i'm using gnome.
[12:01] <saganbyte> how do i tar -xvzf a tar.gz file to a specific named folder like cake.tar.gz extracted mycake/
[12:01] <Karmic> sun virtual box or virtual box ose
[12:01] <desaints> sun virtual box
[12:02] <Karmic> so u dont get internet
[12:02] <desaints> exactly
[12:02] <Karmic> on virtual box
[12:02] <desaints> yep
[12:02] <desaints> on a new install to a virtual machine i can get internet
[12:02] <york105> have you tried switching from NAT to maybe Bridge
[12:02] <desaints> but on the premade one i do not
[12:03] <desaints> i tried all internet options in virtualbox none provide connection, the ubuntu server 9.10 states each time that it is using the loopback interface for internet
[12:03] <dayz> Stargaze, it's already set to true. i can paste with middleclick, but it just goes back.
[12:03] <Karmic> make sure the network adapter is enabled and use NAT
[12:04] <york105> anyway good way to find out what the issue the ifconfig command in terminal (of virtual app) paste output here
[12:04] <Karmic> click the advanced and select a different network adapter
[12:04] <york105> dayz: so do you have compiz installed then?
[12:05] <Karmic> i have compiz my dektop cube spins real nice
[12:08] <hmw> does the System Monitor show KBit or KByte in Network?
[12:17] <mattias_> wat
[12:17] <jpds> mattias_: Hi.
[12:17] <mattias_> Hi!
[12:17] <mattias_> just testing out irssi :)
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:19] <abracadab> iceroot: Yes, I'm on Jaunty with an Intel card! What kind of difference does that make?
[12:20] <ania> abracadab, diffrence to what?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> abracadab: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[12:20] <yehia> can some body tell me how to copy my bookmarks to use it after i re-install my ubuntu again
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> yehia: bookmarks in what?
[12:21] <operaatoors> Hiya! I have a problem with my NetBeans. I wanted to set java for my browser, i downloaded package, installed it, and after that NetBeans won't work. When I try to run it through terminal, i get this: "Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch." Anybody could help me with this?
[12:22] <yehia> actionparsnip, the bookmarks is the firefox list of the internet pages that you save  it
[12:22] <operaatoors> But when i type "java -version", i got this java version "1.6.0_15"
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> yehia: clear your temporary internet cache and backup ~/.mozilla  job done
[12:22] <operaatoors> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
[12:22] <operaatoors> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[12:22] <operaatoors> So that means I have java installed
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> operaatoors: which browser
[12:23] <bazhang> !away > solow[afk]
[12:23] <zicada> ActionParsnip: hes talking about netbeans
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> zicada: gotcha
[12:23] <solow[afk]> ...
[12:23] <operaatoors> ActionParsnip, this doens't matters, anyway - FireFox and Chrome
[12:23] <zicada> operaatoors: try renaming the conig dir
[12:23] <zicada> config
[12:23] <zicada> i forget what its called, but i bet its .netbeans
[12:23] <zicada> heh
[12:23] <operaatoors> how and where?
[12:24] <zicada> mv .netbeans .netbeans.old
[12:24] <zicada> if thats what its called
[12:24] <operaatoors> sorry bout those stupid questions - i'm kinda new on Ubuntu :)
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> operaatoors: theres #netbeans which may help, there are users in there
[12:24] <ania> is there a way to have internet access from wlan and ethernet togheter in one time to improve speed?
[12:24] <dementor> whii  i have a loot of sendmail proceses, and i dont have sendmail instaled ?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> ania: if it is connecting to the same router you will not get extra speed
[12:25] <ania> different
[12:25] <operaatoors> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ania: you can set routing rules to access diferent address ranges from different routers to get the speed from both
[12:26] <hiexpo> morning all
[12:26] <interglacialman> ania, it's not really possible to load-share across different networks like that if they are just internet connections - just pick the fastest one
[12:26] <suleman> how do we connect a internal tv card in ubuntu
[12:27] <suleman> i have no drivers cd for it
[12:27] <porta> suleman: check the mythtv pages. Tons of info there
[12:27] <suleman> graviton, how do we connect a internal tv card in ubuntu
[12:27] <ania> ActionParsnip, interglacialman thx both
[12:27] <suleman> porta, where is that
[12:28] <bally40> hii all of you!
[12:28] <porta> suleman: www.mythtv.org
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> ania: or get a dual WAN router and connect bot to the single point, the switching will be done in hardware
[12:28] <suleman> ????
[12:28] <Xintruder> suleman wini3im wallah
[12:28] <suleman> Xintruder, wats dat
[12:28] <Azjo1> Empathy keeps saying unsupported command. what is the problem?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> suleman: run: lspci   one line will identify the device, you can then use the identifier to find guides
[12:28] <Xintruder> helllo
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ania: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/21544-42-combining-multiple-internet-connections-home-network
[12:30] <lukjad86> anyone here use ksplice?
[12:30] <suleman> ActionParsnip,  i got a list.but i cudnt identify
[12:30] <suleman> ActionParsnip, u mean i have to choose driver frm there n dwnld it frm somwehre else
[12:30] <suleman> ActionParsnip, does linux need drivers
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> suleman: for some hardware yes, just like windows
[12:32] <suleman> ActionParsnip, its a pci tv card from gademei
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> suleman: your tvcard will identify itself there, if not try: lsusb   and see if anything looks like a tv card there, it may identify as a display adapter
[12:32] <lukjad86> Anyone here use ksplice? For some reason it's not detecting kernel updates
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> suleman: doesnt matter where its from, you need to know the chip it uses
[12:32] <suleman> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/t3QTjNHP please see this
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> suleman: ok its a Techwell Inc. Device 6804 (rev 10)
[12:33] <suleman> ActionParsnip, only my mouse in in lsusb
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> suleman: go find guides for one of those
[12:34] <suleman> ActionParsnip, r u sure it works on ubuntu
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> suleman: no idea, websearching will show you
[12:34] <suleman> ActionParsnip, its for my university project,n if it wont work i have to switch to windows
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> suleman: ubuntu is not always the answer
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> the MythTV forums/site/channels have lots of good info on cards..
[12:35] <stef1> I try to run this command: sudo echo "deb http://le-web.org/repository stable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list and it returns cannot create ...list: Permission denied. I don't understand I did add sudo?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> stef1:  when using sudo and > you must use a tee. or just do ig from a 'sudo -i' shell
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> stef1:  thte PIPEING is ran by a normal user.. is the issue
[12:36] <Pici> stef1: sudo does not cross io redirection operators (>), so you'd need to do: echo "deb http://le-web.org/repository stable main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> stef1: use: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    instead
[12:37] <Pici> stef1: If you use the sudo -i method remember to use >> not >, you don't want to overwrite your current sources.list file.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> stef1:  You may want to make a new file in /etc/apt/sources.d also. instead of messing witht he sources.list file
[12:37] <stef1> Pici: sudo does not cross io redirection operators -> didn't knew that
[12:39] <yehia> ActionParsnip , i want to make backup the Pages which i saved not to delete it ...
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> yehia: the bookmarks are al in that folder, backing up the folder will also backup your saved passwords.
[12:41] <OerHeks> suleman, maybe this GIT helps with your Techwell capturecard. > http://gitorious.org/tw68
[12:41] <OerHeks> !git
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yehia: if you ONLY want your bookmarks then backup $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/XXXXXXX.default/bookmarks  I think its a html file, have a look you'll see it
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> yehia: i'd just backup the folder, its a catchall then. All you have to do then is put the folder back in $HOME and it will be used
[12:42] <suleman> OerHeks, i m looking for it
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> yehia: a guide for ONLY bookmarks: http://www.cypherhackz.net/archives/2009/09/02/how-to-backup-mozilla-firefox-bookmarks/
[12:43] <olskolirc> hey cool dolls and cats what is a good gui web cam software besides cheese - I need more color configs - better software
[12:43] <suleman> OerHeks, was that link for me
[12:44] <OerHeks> suleman, yes http://gitorious.org/tw68
[12:44] <trelane> traditional xorg/x11 behavior has been to send whatever is highlighted to the clipboard.  This seems to nolonger be the current behavior in ubuntu 9.10, how do I change this back as it's driving me FARKING BATTY
[12:44] <OerHeks> but i'm not sure how to use this GIT
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> trelane: press CTRL+C or SHIFT+INS
[12:45] <suleman> OerHeks, wats dat
[12:45] <trelane> ActionParsnip, control-c has a TOTALLY different behavior in a bash shell
[12:45] <trelane> (a very undesirable behavior)
[12:45] <suleman> OerHeks, i cudnt make out anything frm that.i m a newbie in linux
[12:45] <trelane> and I don't want to work around it, I want the old behavior back
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> trelane: not sure then, In guake (a gui for terminal) I use ctrl+shift+ins
[12:47] <trelane> ActionParsnip, I want anything I highlight to copy to clipboard which has been the behavior for X11 for probably as long as I've been alive... I'm 29 by the way.  It worked that way when I was 14 and starting wtih linux
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> trelane: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406007
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> trelane: 29 here too, not as long a user as you but always used crtl+shift+c that forum shows a similar scenario to what you describe
[12:48] <Pici> trelane: There are two clipboards, the x clipboard and the application level clipboard.  The x clipboard uses the selection for 'copy' and 'middle click' for paste, the application level ones use the regular keyboard keybindings.
[12:48] <trelane> Pici, I'd like to lose the application level clipboard if possible
[12:48] <Pici> trelane: I'm not sure if that is possible.
[12:49] <saif_> ciao
[12:49] <saif_> !list
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> trelane: http://www.matt-helps.com/ubuntu-ctrl-c-no-longer-works-in-terminal more bad news
[12:49] <carmen> hola
[12:49] <saif_> come state
[12:50] <rumpsy> carmen
[12:50] <saif_> si
[12:50] <kentnyberg> will the next version of ubuntu respect that my newly installed ubuntu 9.10 could not boot without disabling acpi and those things at boot?  its an installation for a friend and I dont know if I should let him upgrade or not becaus of this
[12:50] <saif_> cccciiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooo
[12:50] <Pici> !es | saif_ carmen
[12:50] <Pici> !it | saif_
[12:50] <trelane> ActionParsnip, I'd rather not use ctrl-c
[12:50] <trelane> nevermind I'll remap middle mouse to something useful
[12:50] <suleman> OerHeks, wth is that
[12:50] <moijk> I like cmd+c, so much nicer. :P
[12:52] <suleman> ActionParsnip, helo i cudnt do anything
[12:52] <suleman> ActionParsnip, plz help
[12:52] <OerHeks> suleman, iḿ not sure how to use this GIT > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[12:52] <suleman> OerHeks, wat does git mean
[12:53] <stef1> Pici, Dr_Willis: adding | sudo tee -a worked thanks a lot!
[12:54] <stef1> !git
[12:54] <olskolirc> hey cool dolls and cats what is a good gui web cam software besides cheese - I need more color configs - better software
[12:56] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all
[12:56] <emilioeduardob> hi! im trying to add a user in a server. with  useradd -s /bin/false  prueba3 but it fails saying Can't create `/etc/passwd': not space left on device. I did df -h and i see i have plenty of space. any ideas why?
[12:57] <Jimi_Neutral> I am trying to login as root from the terminal following instructions on how to install Epiware.....things is though when I type "su" and press enter it asks me for a password which I thought I know but for some reason it is saying "Authentication Failiure" any help on this?
[12:57] <FriedrichMan> hey there guys
[12:57] <itai> hi, i need a command that will copy all my mp3 folders to another directory, but not my .doc folders. basically the command will select only folders with mp3 in them and move them to another dir. is that possible?
[12:57] <hiexpo> Jimi_Neutral, what did you put as when you insyalled it is the password
[12:58] <gce> Jimi_Neutral: try sudo su -
[12:58] <Azjo1> Hi, i still have very strange issues with basic irc in empathy.
[12:58] <Azjo1> i cannot join any rooms
[12:58] <gce> itai: from a terminal do "  man rsync "
[12:58] <Azjo1> i can only talk to nickserv and then im not allowed to do commands from there so im stuck like a pig in a cage
[12:59] <yellabs> ji there
[12:59] <yellabs> hi
[12:59] <hiexpo> reg \ Azjo1
[12:59] <yellabs> how can i use the chown command to see permissions?
[13:00] <gce> hellabs: ls -l
[13:00] <yellabs> foh
[13:00] <yellabs> oh
[13:01] <fernandoc1> I'm working on Ubuntu customization to an office, and I want to know how I set Ubuntu to create folders like "My Videos" "My Music" to every new user that is registred?
[13:01] <itai> gce, are you sure that rsync can do what i want, i would think that i would need at least two command, one to locate the folders and the other (rsync) to copy them, am i wrong?
[13:01] <porta> fernandoc1: put them in /etc/skell
[13:01] <fernandoc1> k
[13:02] <fernandoc1> but when I give a ls on /etc/skel on the original ubuntu
[13:02] <fernandoc1> there is no folders there
[13:03] <porta> fernandoc1: no but the contents is copied to the home dirs. Or else it's a gnome or kde issue, not linux/ubuntu specific
[13:04] <fernandoc1> I'm asking this, because I want to change this behaviour to create other folders rather then those that are default
[13:05] <gce> itai: nah rsync won't be able to do it by itself
[13:05] <yellabs> is drwxr--1-- the same as read and list ?
[13:06] <gce> itai: you'd need to do something like find / -name "*mp3" -print -exec mv {} new_mp3 ;   but it would have to be something more creative to move entires folders especially if it contains mp3s and docs
[13:07] <yellabs> never mind, reading the man pages...
[13:08] <abhi_nav> hi
[13:08] <om26er> abhi_nav, hi
[13:08] <abhi_nav> om26er: :D hello
[13:08] <itai> gce trying that now
[13:08] <GSF1200S> anyone know a good app or something to tell how often the os is reading/writing from/to the hard drive?
[13:08] <porta> fernandoc1: check /etc/xdg
[13:09] <Gnea> GSF1200S: procinfo
[13:09] <fernandoc1> porta: I'm asking this, because I want to change this behaviour to create other folders rather then those that are default
[13:09] <fernandoc1> k
[13:10] <lasher> i have a dual boot problem... ive just installed ubuntu on a mates laptop. after install the comp no longer boots into vista... i get a blue screen for a split second and then system reboots
[13:10] <yellabs> should i go to ubuntu-server channel for help on the server side things?
[13:10] <itai> gce, the find command moves the mp3 files themslevs to a new dir but not the folders, can you think of a solution ?
[13:11] <abhi_nav> yellabs: hmm
[13:12] <yellabs> i have some files on the server, now with webadmin i can set permissions to " list " i can then see the jpegs, but what is the same thing on setting it with chown on the bash command ?
[13:12] <yellabs> what would " list " stand for ?
[13:13] <ezmoke> .
[13:13] <abhi_nav> ..
[13:13] <yellabs> ...
[13:13] <abhi_nav> now someone will come and tell us to stop this .....
[13:14] <yellabs> no please feel free to do so
[13:14] <abhi_nav> :-)
[13:14] <Azjo1> hi, i am in a channel irc with the program empathy. when i do a /msg for example, it says unsupported command, anyone know what the issue may be?!
[13:14] <abhi_nav> Azjo1: type /msg <nick>
[13:15] <Pici> Azjo1: Empathy has poor support for irc commands.
[13:15] <porta> yellabs: chown a+r *jpg the dir they're in should have x permissions (chown +x 'dirwithjpgs')
[13:15] <om26er> Pici, its better now
[13:15] <porta> yellabs: danmn chmod ofcourse
[13:15] <Pici> om26er: In Lucid maybe, but in Karmic?
[13:16] <om26er> Pici, yes the development release but not great for irc
[13:16] <Azjo1> thanks pici, its obviously not ready for ubuntu id say
[13:16] <yellabs> ok
[13:17] <daMull> hi folks, I got an issue with dns dhcp and ubuntu as dhcp client .. the fully qualified hostnames are not working on the local network
[13:17] <operaatoors> Which is the best application on Ubuntu for Twitter and Facebook, except Gwibber ?
[13:17] <om26er> !best | operaatoors
[13:18] <daMull> any dns/dhcp networking gurus around?
[13:18] <porta> operaatoors: i like choqok for twitter
[13:19] <operaatoors> porta, okey, thank you, should try it out :)
[13:21] <diofeher> anyone knows how to configure multimedia keyboard? i changed my theme to lucid and it stop working =(
[13:21] <yellabs> daMull you can just ask the question
[13:21] <gce> itai: have write a script.  first use find command to find all mp3's and dump results to a text file, the read in each line doing the command: basename on it, then perform an rsync on the results of basename to directory
[13:21] <marijuana> guys... i'm using karmic. how to enable automatic update which it can download & install itself every time i login ubuntu?
[13:21] <abhi_nav> !lucid | diofeher
[13:22] <diofeher> ubottu: i've download a theme with this name...
[13:22] <Azjo1> can anyone tell me why empathy managed to be a part of 9.10 when it doesnt even support basic commands??
[13:22] <abhi_nav> haa haa haa
[13:22] <diofeher> aehau
[13:22] <abhi_nav> same with me first time :D
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Azjo1:  because  it has other features perhaps?
[13:23] <diofeher> i've installed this http://bit.ly/bGf7uR
[13:23] <Neremor> hello!
[13:23] <diofeher> lucid theme at karmic
[13:24] <Neremor> I would like to install the java-plugin for firefox. The problem is: I'm not using firefox via the package provided by the repos, but the one provided on mozilla.org... When installing sun-java6-plugin, i can use java in the 3.5 repo-firefox but not in the 3.6 self-installed one
[13:24] <Neremor> any idea how to provide the plugin for both versions?
[13:24] <Azjo1> hmm, id say that if it cant even support basic commands, then its far from 1.0
[13:24] <FriedrichMan> does anybody in here know what might be the reason everytime I reboot I need to change my keyboard configuration again?
[13:24] <wasutton3> is there a way to mount a samba share (using cifs) in the fstab so that multiple users will have full read/write access?
[13:24] <jeanfi> Neremor, you have to add a link to the java lib in the plugin directory of ff
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  i belive thats possible. You can mount them from fstab.. and theres lots of options for  it.
[13:25] <serpico> hi
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  take care with shares with spaces in teh filenames
[13:25] <gce> daMull: you should check your /etc/resolv.conf and see it the dhcp server is supplying you with a search entry
[13:26] <wasutton3> Dr_Willis: i currently have it mounting properly in the fstab, it just only provides read/write access to one user
[13:26] <Neremor> well, what do you mean with a link, a symbolic link? from which file to which directory?
[13:26] <jeanfi> yes symbolic link
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  thers so many options -  and it might be a windows option - I tend to just set up Public shres for all theusers to access
[13:27] <wasutton3> Dr_Willis: hmmm ok.
[13:27] <rumpsy> bye
[13:27] <jeanfi> neremor: in your jdk home, you have somthing like jre/lib/plugins/ns7
[13:28] <Neremor> ok.
[13:28] <jeanfi> neremor: you link libjavaplugin.so file in your ff directory
[13:28] <jeanfi> Neremor, I don't a non-ubuntu-package installation of ff and jdk on my actual so I cannot give you exact dir and file names
[13:29] <gce> daMull: you should check your /etc/resolv.conf and see it the dhcp server is supplying you with a search entry
[13:30] <jeanfi> neremor: for ff, the directory is named 'plugins'
[13:30] <madjoe> everytime I boot my Karmic, there's a boot menu to select a version of Ubuntu... I think Ubuntu creates a new version everytime I update it through my Synaptic... it also creates a recoverable version of each Ubuntu updated release... is that recommended behavior and does it increase my data usage on my HDD? Should I purge the old version somehow??
[13:31] <jeanfi> neremor: so you have to do something like cd /opt/firefox/plugins; ln -s /opt/jdk/jre/plugind/i386/ns7/XXX.so
[13:31] <_linux_student> ubuntu 9.10 (daemon.log) Failed to open file '/proc/902/environ': No such file or directory   one can help me please??
[13:31] <itai> gce, thanks i will work on that
[13:31] <kittenjaugar> hello all ubuntu
[13:31] <terry_> _linux_student: Sure the file exists?
[13:31] <FriedrichMan> does anybody in here know what might be the reason everytime I reboot I need to change my keyboard configuration again?
[13:32] <terry_> _linux_student: Make sure you are typing the path and fill name correctly, use the tab key to auto complete.
[13:33] <Neremor> ok thank you very much
[13:33] <klxklx> i'm using 9.10.should i upgrade to 10.04 or reinstall?
[13:33] <Neremor> it worked
[13:33] <Jimi_Neutral> gce, ty that worked
[13:34] <madjoe> Maybe I'll answer my own question: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[13:34] <Vroomfondle> klxklx: you should be able to upgrade, but ask in #ubuntu+1 first
[13:34] <gce> itai: np
[13:34] <klxklx> ok
[13:34] <gce> Jimi_Neutral: np
[13:35] <itai> gce, the problem is that find only writes the mp3 themselves but does write the folder name
[13:35] <terry_> _linux_student: I'm sorry, I didn't fully read your post.  Not really sure what you are up against there...
[13:38] <_linux_student> ubuntu 9.10 (daemon.log) Failed to open file '/proc/902/environ': No such file or directory   one can help me please??  what is this error
[13:38] <terry_> _linux_student: I found this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/367334
[13:39] <hal> when I execute dpkg -l, before qemu-kvm it has the letters rc, which I believe mean Remove | Cfg-files.  Woudl someone tell me what this means tho?
[13:40] <itai> gce, do you think i can do that with konqueror ? i heard it has many functions'
[13:43] <gce> itai: dunno I use mostly command line
[13:44] <lasher> no1 can help me with my dualboot vista problem??
[13:44] <hal> qah - I get it now - you have to mark them as compete removal in synaptic
[13:44] <zaprock> door
[13:44] <ionut> does anyone knows an application like yahoo messenger that i can use call or videocall?
[13:44] <zaprock> how i can?
[13:44] <iceroot> ionut: skype
[13:44] <itai> gce, the problem with find is that it only writes the mp3 and not the folders, perhaps i misunderstood your instructions?
[13:45] <ionut> iceroot: but i can use an yahoo account ?
[13:45] <iceroot> ionut: not with skype
[13:45] <Stargaze> ionut, try Skype, aMSN, emesene, pidgin, Kopete etc etc
[13:45] <iceroot> ionut: but the new messanger (dont know the name) in karmic should handle yahoo accounts with video-calls
[13:45] <ionut> Stargaze: but not all , i've tryied and i cant use call
[13:46] <DeadmanIncJS> hi kids
[13:46] <irene> ?
[13:46] <Bisu[Shield]> kids?
[13:46] <irene> ola
[13:46] <Bisu[Shield]> can someone kick that dude
[13:46] <iceroot> ionut: call a phone-numbre or call another messanger-user?
[13:46] <gce> itai: if you do find / -name "*mp3" -print   it will print out the complete path of each mp3.
[13:46] <irene> jm
[13:46] <ionut> another messanger use
[13:46] <ionut> r
[13:46]  * Nollog does a barrel roll!
[13:46] <irene> jejejejejejejeje
[13:46] <DeadmanIncJS> why kick me?
[13:46] <irene> chao
[13:46] <irene> bye
[13:46] <ionut> iceroot: another mess.user
[13:46] <iceroot> Bisu[Shield]: no need now
[13:46] <iceroot> ionut: then the new karmic messanger can handle it
[13:46] <iceroot> ionut: emphany or something like that was the name
[13:47] <iceroot> !im
[13:47] <ionut> tnx
[13:47] <ionut> iceroot: tnx
[13:47] <Stargaze> ionut, check http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=11
[13:47] <Bisu[Shield]> anyway why ® look like garbage on vi in linux?
[13:47] <itai> gce, yes, i wrote that to a file in my home dir, how do i get rsync to recognise the folders within that file?
[13:47] <Bisu[Shield]> anyway why ® look like garbage on vi in linux?
[13:47] <iceroot> Bisu[Shield]: wrong charset on the shell?
[13:47] <ionut> iceroot: video call and voice call are not available
[13:47] <ionut> iceroot: what can i do?
[13:47] <Stargaze> Bisu[Shield], why is life unfair, why does the sun not shine at night?
[13:47] <iceroot> ionut: hm, i thought they are
[13:48] <Bisu[Shield]> what is the cahrset on the shell?
[13:48] <Bisu[Shield]> *charset
[13:49] <gce> itai: you need to write a script. have something like the following it it  for eachline in `cat filelist.txt` do THEBASE=`basename $eachline` ; rsync -av $THEBASE /newdir/
[13:49] <ManDay> hinogi, any idea as for the sqrt{\underbrace{}... ?
[13:49] <gce> itai: correction subsitute dirname for basename
[13:49] <kittenjaugar> wow-1439people... :)
[13:50] <Bisu[Shield]> what is the charset used on the shell?
[13:50] <vonderer> hi. Have a problem with pulseaudio. Everything's great except that I have to unmute my audio output and input each time I boot my system. Any way to fix this?
[13:51] <mcphail> itai: i'm sure rsync can do this on its own
[13:51] <ManDay> Guys, any idea why my Expo-Edge (Upper left corner) stopped functioning out of all sudden? the other edges (scale, bottom right) still work!
[13:52] <itai> gce, all my folders are located in a dir called /data so, THEBASE=`/data $eachline ?
[13:52] <itai> mcphail, how?
[13:54] <kubanc> Hey, I have a question. If i run ubuntu 9.10 vai LIVE C, my wireless card Broadcom corporation BCM4318 is not recognized. If i install Ubuntu to disk, will it work, or, will i be albe to install drivers?
[13:54] <liunx> continue
[13:54] <mcphail> itai: do you want to preserve the directory hierarchy on the backup files?
[13:55] <ikonia> kubanc: if there is a kernel module (driver) available you should be able to install it to an install on your hard disk
[13:55] <liunx> what about vai LIVE C?
[13:55] <ikonia> liunx: do you mean a live CD ?
[13:55] <eniacpx> kubanc: do some research into b43-fwcutter. You will likely need that to get the card working. You may be able to test it on the live cd.
[13:55] <DeadmanIncJS> is there somewhere i can learn about programming for linux?
[13:56] <itai> mcphail, i dont care about the hirerarchy, i just want to move folders with music to another place and leave folders with other stuff where they are
[13:56] <liunx> i thouht you talk about a live cd ,is it ?
[13:56] <ikonia> DeadmanIncJS: plenty of info on the net, my advise is to target specific things you want to know
[13:56] <pwnkiller> hi all
[13:56] <DeadmanIncJS> k, thanks ikonia
[13:56] <ikonia> liunx: you can install things to a livecd, however be aware that once you reboot, they will be gone
[13:56] <DeadmanIncJS> im just really liking linux.  wouldn't mind learning how i can contribute somehow :)
[13:56] <Stargaze> DeadmanIncJS, search google for 'ubuntu full circle magazine', there you find some programming courses
[13:57] <eniacpx> DeadmanIncJS: Or find a program you use on a regular basis (like your irc client) and grab the source code.
[13:57] <liunx> live cd is not always useful,but
[13:57] <pwnkiller> hey how can i return a partition to my origional os
[13:57] <liunx> it is slowly
[13:57] <ikonia> pwnkiller: if you have formatted the partition, then the data is gone
[13:57] <Wizzup> if I install 10.04 now and follow all updates there shouldn't be a big difference between my install and fresh install from 1.0.4 (if it's stable)?
[13:57] <Stargaze> DeadmanIncJS, check http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/full_circle_overview.html
[13:57] <mcphail> itai: if you look up "man rsync" and search for "FILTER RULES" it should point you in the right direction
[13:58] <ikonia> Wizzup: discussion on 10.04 in #ubuntu+1 and yes, it can end up different depending on if fatal bugs are found
[13:58] <ania> Wizzup, nice question :P
[13:58] <itai> mcphail will have another look, thanks
[13:58] <DeadmanIncJS> thanks guys, im looking right now
[13:58] <Wizzup> ikonia: Disregarding fatal bugs that cause the system not to update... ;-)
[13:58] <ikonia> Wizzup: discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[13:58] <liunx> i have a problem about my nvidia6600 card
[13:58] <pwnkiller> right, that's not what i mean, i want to combine a unallocated space with my current os.
[13:58] <Wizzup> kk...
[13:59] <DeadmanIncJS> full circle is download only?
[13:59] <liunx> i can not get a right freshrate with my crt monotor
[13:59] <Elirips> Hello. Does someone know a program that can draw diagrams like dia, but is also capable of adding mathematical formulas to the things drawn? I think dia can only add "normal" text (?)
[13:59] <Stargaze> pwnkiller, try using gparted, after you booted from a LiveCD
[13:59] <kubanc> eniacpx, if i try sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter in LIVE CD, i get that it is already installed the newer version
[13:59] <creatorbri> Can someone help me with an Ubuntu/Windows networking question?
[14:00] <rsk> !ask | creatorbri
[14:00] <martian> Is there a way to prevent myself from accidentally deleting a symlink (chmod 555 it) without changing the permissions on the file itself?
[14:00] <pwnkiller> so ur saying what/ that i have to reinstall?
[14:00] <Stargaze> creatorbri, type /join #ubuntu-server
[14:00] <ikonia> martian: symlinks don't have permissions, just the targets
[14:00] <creatorbri> I am on a Windows network with Ubuntu, and I need to access a machine on the LAN
[14:00] <Stargaze> creatorbri, type /join #ubuntu-server
[14:00] <creatorbri> I have Samba installed, but I can't seem to access the machine by its hostname
[14:01] <martian> ikonia: so I guess that's a confident 'no' :)
[14:01] <blueglasses> what chanel is wubi and grub support?
[14:01] <martian> creatorbri: can you ping the machine?
[14:01] <blueglasses> anyone with grub update trouble?
[14:01] <Stargaze> blueglasses, check http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[14:02] <ikonia> martian: pretty much
[14:02] <creatorbri> I can't ping the machine
[14:02] <lasher> pwnkiller u can use gparted to stretch the partition over unallocated space and make it bigger
[14:02] <martian> creatorbri: then it's not likely a samba issue as much as it is a connectivity issue (or you have the name wrong!?)
[14:03] <blueglasses> Stargaze, thx but first i need a running system
[14:03] <eniacpx> kubanc: When you install it after an install, it will go out and grab windows drivers to make the card function (it grabs firmware files from the windows drivers). If you can risk it, and you can connect via ethernet, you may want to just try the install. The only issue I had with a similar card is that even after the card was recognized it wouldn't display networks, it required NDIS wrapper to be installed.
[14:04] <creatorbri> More Details: I am running Ubuntu on a VM with a Bridged connection. My host machine (a Windows 7 pc) can access the windows server just fine.
[14:04] <epaphus> Hello.. is it possible to give access to some unpriviledged users the OpenOffice and others not?
[14:04] <liunx> anyone can help me with my nvidia card?
[14:04] <Stargaze> blueglasses, how can you be here, if your system is not running?
[14:05] <rsk> !ask | liunx
[14:05] <kubanc> eniacpx, i'll try and install NDISwrapper also
[14:05] <nibbler> epaphus: chown the openoffice executables to a new group, make sure only group members can execute it and put the users you want into this group...
[14:05] <blueglasses> I have 2 computers
[14:05] <epaphus> nibbler, thanks
[14:05] <hal> if the ubuntu update manager updates your kernel automatically, will it leave the existing kernel on the system and also leave the grub entry for it?
[14:06] <blueglasses> Stargaze, I have 2 computers; system is running but i get just grub prompt
[14:06] <eniacpx> kubanc: NDIS wrapper also requires that you download the windows drivers for the card.
[14:06] <rsk> hal yes
[14:06] <hal> rsk: will it automatically boot to the new kernel tho/
[14:06] <mcphail> kubanc: I installed Mint on a machine with that card (i think) a couple of days ago. It worked OK when the driver was installed, although I used the closed-source version. If it works on Mint it should work on Ubuntu
[14:06] <hal> ?
[14:06] <blueglasses> there was any major upgrade to grub on the repositories latelly?
[14:06] <rocket16> Thanks
[14:07] <abhi_nav> hal: yes
[14:07] <hal> cool !  thanks rsk and abhi_nav
[14:07] <kubanc> eniacpx, i'm confused. How do i now install drivers. How do i start, what do I install first?
[14:07] <abhi_nav> hal :-)
[14:07] <martian> creatorbri: Then my guess would be that the VM software is either not briding the UDP traffic or the hosted OS doesn't think it's on the same network or something... Perhaps something like this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652640
[14:07] <kubanc> mcphail, do you have any tutorial somewhere?
[14:08] <Gegevador> Hi Everybody :D
[14:08] <rsk> kubanc what drivers do you want to install?
[14:08] <creatorbri> My Ubuntu VM can access the Internet fine
[14:08] <eniacpx> kubanc: mcphails method is probably a better choice. :)
[14:08] <Henryacores> What's the IRC Channel for VirtualBox?
[14:08] <erUSUL> Henryacores: #vbox iirc
[14:09] <hal> where is the menu.1st grub file on a ubuntu installation please?
[14:09] <Henryacores> Thank you
[14:09] <kubanc> rsk, i wanna to install Broadcom Corporation BCM4317 [Airforce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[14:09] <rsk> kubanc so go to the brodcom site and download the driver there
[14:09] <mcphail> kubanc: Mint ships with the driver on CD, so it offered it automatically. I'd guess that Ubuntu won't have a closed-source driver on CD but htere will be tutorials if you google. At the very least Ubuntu should offer fmcutter for it.
[14:09] <erUSUL> hal: i karmic there is none; grub2 uses a different conf file/system
[14:09] <erUSUL> !grub2 | hal
[14:09] <Stargaze> hal, grub2 no longer uses menu.lst, it's now grub.conf or something like that
[14:10] <erUSUL> kubanc: just connect via wired and install b43-fwcutter. after that reboot
[14:10] <martian> hal: and that would be .lst not .1st
[14:10] <chili555> kubanc, do you have an ethernet connection on the machine now?
[14:10] <erUSUL> kubanc: you have to be connected via othermmeans (wired) while installing b43-fwcutter
[14:10] <Stargaze> 1l
[14:10] <ben__59> bazhang: how to login using my nickname?
[14:10] <abhi_nav> hal you are using karming with grub2?
[14:10] <hal> good point, martian ! ;)
[14:11] <erUSUL> kubanc: the reboot is not mandatory « sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 » should be enough
[14:11] <hal> abhi_nav: version 9.10.  Is that karmin?
[14:11] <martian> creatorbri: perhaps it is something as simple as an option in your VM to bridge windows networking traffic
[14:11] <Nollog> karmic
[14:11] <abhi_nav> !9.10
[14:11] <ManDay> Guys, any idea why my Expo-Edge (Upper left corner) stopped functioning out of all sudden? the other edges (scale, bottom right) still work!
[14:12] <abhi_nav> hal: why you need menu.lst?
[14:12] <Gegevador> I just want to ask if you pronounce I.R.C or irk? For me until now it was I.R.C but someone told me i was wrong...
[14:13] <kubanc> erUSUL, your'r a genious
[14:13] <erUSUL> kubanc: no quite; but thanks ;P
[14:14] <creatorbri> Question: How can I access a Windows server by Hostname from within an Ubuntu VM? Details: I am running an Ubuntu VM on my Windows 7 laptop, which is connected to a Windows network. The Ubuntu VM is using a Bridged connection and can access the Internet fine. My laptop can access "\\server\" and "http://server/" just fine. I have samba and smbclient installed. But for some reason I can't access the windows server from my Ubuntu VM. I can p
[14:14] <ddavids> can anybody pls explain how whereami works?
[14:14] <DeadmanIncJS> im looking fwd to 10.04.
[14:14] <hal> abhi_nav: I wanted to see what the boot menu looked like.  Also, I wanted to know for future ref where I would configure a new boot menu item
[14:14] <kubanc> erUSUL, so as you say, the only thing i need to do is to sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43, and i need to have ethernet connection?
[14:14] <abhi_nav> hal: hmm. look grub2 docs. you wll find in it
[14:14] <kubanc> erUSUL, OH, but firs i need to install b43-fwcutter
[14:14] <martian> Gegevador: Not an english word, so really it's however you want... so that 'someone' is wrong is saying you're wrong. BUT, I always say "eyearesea".. and this is WAY offtopic, so we should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:15] <cecilia_> hi, i have no sound on youtube or any flash videos...after installing 9.04 from a cd
[14:15] <hal> abhi_nav: it's ok, I found it in /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  Thank you
[14:15] <abhi_nav> hal hmm :)
[14:15] <erUSUL> kubanc: yes firs install b43-fwcutter (that will install the cards firmware) then reload the driver
[14:16] <Gegevador> martian : ok ^^ sorry and thanks ;)
[14:16] <fumanchu182> Is there someone I could talk to about the screensaver settings.  From a usability standpoint not being able to change th path and or directory of a Pictures or slideshow screensaver is bad.
[14:16] <Trek> got a question for you all.  Got a 10GB drive here (old hard drive from a dead laptop), wondering what distro of Ubuntu (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, etc) I should stick on the thing
[14:16] <fumanchu182> :)
[14:16] <lexr> hey guys, please, I need some good widgets for my gnome desktop that resemble those on OsX and Windows 7. Google gadgets, screenlets, conky, gdesklets? which is easiest and most eyecandy lookin' :)?
[14:16] <erUSUL> kubanc: if you are askin yourself why you have to do this call Broadcom and tell them how happy you are they do not let linux dsitributions carry its firmware so you have to loose half a day getting help
[14:17] <lasher> am contmplating move to debian.. any advice
[14:17] <martian> fumanchu182: probably right there; best thing to do would be to file an enhancement bug at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:17] <cecilia_> hi, i have no sound on youtube or any flash videos...after installing 9.04 from a cd, but sound is ok on audacious and other media players
[14:17] <Kuki> ?
[14:17] <Stargaze> lexr, check http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-intrepid-into-mac-osx-leopard/2009/01/08
[14:17] <martian> lasher: maybe as #debian
[14:18] <martian> lasher: *ask
[14:18] <Trek> cecilia_, I have the same issue, havent found a resolution for it yet
[14:18] <fumanchu182> martian, ty very much
[14:18] <lexr> thanks very much Stargaze ;)
[14:18] <fumanchu182> I am in the middle of hacking away at glslideshow to get it to pull in a specific folder, fun times
[14:18] <hal> I have an nvidia gfx card, and have installed the drivers for it.  If I upgrade the kernel, will these drivers still be used in the new kernel?  how can I tell whether they are compiled in the kernel?
[14:18] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a command to exit a channel?
[14:18] <fumanchu182> "/part"
[14:19] <liunx> yes, they will
[14:19] <martian> Bisu[Shield]: depends on your client. In irssi it's /wc
[14:19] <DJones> Bisu[Shield]: /part will exit the channel
[14:19] <iceroot> Bisu[Shield]: /wc /part
[14:19] <liunx> when you install a new kernel
[14:19] <Trek> got a question for you all.  Got a 10GB drive here (old hard drive from a dead laptop), wondering what distro of Ubuntu (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, etc) I should stick on the thing, if any
[14:19] <liunx> the system will auto help you with these things
[14:19] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: hello
[14:19] <cecilia_> but this seems to be such  a basic problem, there must be someone who knows how to fix it
[14:19] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all
[14:20] <erUSUL> Trek: 100 giB is plaenty for any of them
[14:20] <iceroot> Trek: the one you like
[14:20] <Trek> erUSUL / iceroot: correction: its 10gb
[14:20] <iceroot> Trek: the one you like
[14:20] <^mNotIntelligent> can someone help me fixing error with vmware, error message: could not open /dev/vmmon, no such file or directory
[14:20] <hal> ah - there is an nvidia module showing in lsmod.  Is this all that is needed by the graphics drivers?
[14:21] <Kuki> can anyone help me to get to my data on my external disc?
[14:21] <DJones> Trek: A basic install of Ubuntu takes about 3.5Gb (from memory) so any of the versions would fit on a 10Gb drive
[14:21] <abhi_nav> !details | Kuki
[14:21] <kubanc> erUSUL, :D. We'll, they'll probably put my mail into spam. Or, they're doing so, so they can have some control over the users
[14:21] <fumanchu182> martian, this is my first time using ubuntu's launchpad is there a specific section for feature enhancements or should i file it under a bug request?
[14:21] <Kuki> I put my disk in
[14:22] <Trek> thanks iceroot / erUSUL / DJones, one last question: if its going to run on a low-specs system (such as another old laptop or something), what distro should I be looking at?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> fumanchu182:  theres the 'brainstorm' ubuntu site for  suggesting new things..
[14:22] <Kuki> then I get the following messange:
[14:22] <aorthr33> Kudi, what kind of external disk?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> !brainstorm
[14:22] <Kuki> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: Failed to read last sector (1953523119): Invalid argument
[14:22] <Kuki> HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,
[14:22] <Kuki>    or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),
[14:22] <Kuki>    or a wrong device is tried to be mounted,
[14:22] <Kuki>    or the partition table is corrupt (partition is smaller than NTFS),
[14:22] <FloodBot4> Kuki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <Kuki>    or the NTFS boot sector is corrupt (NTFS size is not valid).
[14:22] <Kuki> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument
[14:22] <abhi_nav> not Kudi its Kuki
[14:22] <fumanchu182> Dr_Willis, well it is not a new thing it is an enhancement to gnome-screensaver I guess.
[14:22] <iceroot> Trek: xubuntu
[14:22] <erUSUL> Trek: slitza; puppy linux; dsl (damm small linux) or something similar
[14:22] <^mNotIntelligent> !pb | Kuki
[14:23] <Stargaze> Kuki, please type your question in one line, it's easier for every one
[14:23] <erUSUL> Trek: is slitza
[14:23] <DJones> Trek: What do you call low spec system? I use a 10 year old laptop with ubuntu and it works fine within 512Mb ram
[14:23] <Trek> thanks iceroot / erUSUL.  I'll take a look at xubuntu first, then I'll check the other recommendations.
[14:23] <Kuki> sorry @ the multiline post
[14:23] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: u there?
[14:23] <liunx> vectorlinux is also easy to use
[14:23] <liunx> easy to install
[14:24] <Stargaze> liunx, but apparently 'linux' is not easy to type as your nickname ;)
[14:24] <cecilia_> anyone? i have no sound on flash videos after installing 9.04 from a cd
[14:24] <liunx> maybe
[14:25] <martian> cecilia_: did it previously work with ubuntu, or is this your first attempt?
[14:25] <jcrawford> hey guys i have to install my NVidia driver again as the update today killed it.  I forgot how to boot the machine without X though can someone enlighten me?
[14:26] <cecilia_> martian, it worked before...i've been using ubuntu for 3 years, i had jaunty before, but there was a problem with one of the partitions after a blackout, i had to format and reinstall everything
[14:26] <erUSUL> jcrawford: recovery mode; or just stop gdm and kill X
[14:26] <liunx> startx
[14:26] <erUSUL> jcrawford: sudo stop gdm && sudo pkill X
[14:26] <jcrawford> thanks
[14:27] <cecilia_> i tried to reinstall the cd 2 times to fix the sound problem, but it stayed the same
[14:27] <martian> cecilia_: well, you likely need to do a little googling for yoursoundcard+ubuntu. Perhaps for some legal reasons, the drivers for your card may not be shipped with ubuntu. Did you try the restricted drivers thingamabobber?
[14:28] <leospc> ello
[14:28] <leospc> hello
[14:28] <madura> leospc: hello
[14:28] <cecilia_> no, but i'm listening to music on audacious and hear sound on vlc...so, i don't think there is any problem with my soundcard
[14:28] <cecilia_> it's only videos from internet that don't have any sound
[14:28] <ChogyDan> cecilia_: how did you install flash?
[14:28] <srini> when i type my username in login screen the size of the letters are very big why? how to sove this?
[14:29] <cecilia_> i installed it from the adobe page
[14:29] <madura> cecilia_: you dont get sound on flash?
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> cecilia_:  if you mean only 'flash' videos dont have sound.. well. its a flash issue. :)
[14:29] <leospc> when gcc get
[14:29] <cecilia_> no, i don't have any sound on flash
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> cecilia_:  you dont want to download from adobe either.
[14:29] <cecilia_> yes... because other parts of the system have sound
[14:30] <cecilia_> i tried the videos from other browsers like seamonkey and opera, same problem
[14:30] <Kuki> ok: once again: When I try to attac my external disk (1 Terabite; WD; S/N: WCAV58205275) to my Lap-Top I get the following error message: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: Failed to read last sector (1953523119): Invalid argument HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet, or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...), or a wrong device is tried to be mounted, or the partition table is corrupt (partition is 
[14:31] <madura> cecilia_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:31] <cecilia_> ok
[14:31] <madura> try that on a terminal
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> cecilia_:  you should of used the package manager to install flash. You proberly need to reove the flas you allready have installed.. it might conflict
[14:31] <arch0njw> I have an Ubuntu Server that I want -a very minimal- desktop environment on.  I don't necessarily mean fluxbox or lxde, just not the entire pile of stuff that comes with ubuntu-desktop.  Would what is suggested here be sufficient?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751076
[14:31] <madura> u might need to uninstall the one u installed from the website
[14:32] <cecilia_> on the terminal, it says it was installed afetr a process here... i'm going to test it...wait a second
[14:33] <abhi_nav> which is the general offtopic chitchatting channel of freenode?
[14:35] <cecilia_> hey people, the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer worked nice, i have sound on opera and firefox now!! thanks a lot for helping!
[14:36] <cecilia_> thank you madura
[14:36] <OerHeks> have fun cecilia_ :-)
[14:36] <cecilia_> :)
[14:36] <cecilia_> bye bye, guys
[14:36] <madura> cecilia_:  anytime :)
[14:36] <srini> when i type my username in login screen the size of the Fonts are very big why? how to solve this?
[14:36] <ben__821> bazhang: hello
[14:36] <OerHeks> madura +1 :-D
[14:36] <madura> OerHeks: thanks
[14:37] <ben__821> how to get to free of topic
[14:38] <Kuki> well... I guess I'll have to come back with my question in the evening. My coaching scholar will come any moment...
[14:38] <t1235> I'm trying to use grep in a bash script. I have a variable (myvar="test1 test2 test3"). I want to grep (search) something in myvar, e.g. (search for test2). My problem is grep is expecting files to search the pattern in them, but I have a var to search in. (I don't want to use echo $myvar| grep ...)
[14:39] <Stargaze> well, just discovered Metacity Compositing Manager
[14:40] <ruge> hey folks
[14:41] <taka> hey
[14:41] <ruge> just installed 9.10 .. seem to get this crash report icon each time i boot my machine!
[14:41] <taka> jest jakis polak
[14:41] <DJones> !pl | taka
[14:41] <taka> what pl
[14:41] <brain_> ubuntu new release is the best
[14:42] <taka> djones what
[14:42] <abhi_nav> polish i think
[14:42] <taka> no
[14:42] <brain_> i have a acer extensa is work webcam all netwrok
[14:42] <abhi_nav> then?
[14:42] <brain_> webcam
[14:42] <brain_> work
[14:42] <taka> i have dinner ;)
[14:43] <MrEgg964> hi all :) Is there a GUI equivalent to the wall command ?
[14:43] <ubuntubama> Enter text here...
[14:43] <Stargaze> what is wall command?
[14:43] <ruge> whats the latest version of vbox?
[14:43] <taka> bay
[14:43] <MrEgg964> it's for sending notifications to users
[14:44] <abhi_nav> elisa871 you here?
[14:44] <wazzaaaaa> looking to create scripts that would autorun after ubuntu boots like log in to internet and launch messengers etc , how do i go about it , can someone point me somewhere
[14:44] <taka> nara
[14:44] <wazzaaaaa> !bum
[14:44] <taka> ale sie wystraszyłam
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> wazzaaaaa:  you mean launch stuff after the USER logs in correct?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> wazzaaaaa:  or on system boot up.
[14:45] <wazzaaaaa> Dr_Willis , yes
[14:45] <ruge> Anyone know where I can get the latest Sun VirtualBox for Ubuntu 9.10?
[14:45] <rsk> ruge virtualbox.org
[14:46] <ruge> cool
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[14:46] <brain_> ssh
[14:46] <Stargaze> MrEgg964, what kind of notofications?
[14:46] <brain_> i need help witch ssh tuneling in main ubuntu 10.4
[14:46] <brain_> some body have a idea witch that
[14:47] <Stargaze> !lucid| brain_
[14:47] <MrEgg964> Stargaze: I want to warn users that the computer will be in maintenance at such a time
[14:47] <ruge> also, how do i get nvidia drivers for my card?
[14:47] <erUSUL> !nvidia | ruge
[14:48] <ruge> ty :)
[14:48] <ubuntubama> Enter text here...
[14:48] <Iswanto> Hello...
[14:49] <Stargaze> MrEgg964, and wall is *nix or on *ndows?
[14:49] <MrEgg964> wall is *nix
[14:49] <wazzaaaaa> Dr_Willis , firstly , System>Preferences>Sessions isnt there in my system , and secondly i dont want to load programs , i want to execute a script that connects to my internet connection
[14:49] <Iswanto> is there anything new about Lucid theme
[14:49] <Iswanto> ??
[14:49] <wazzaaaaa> :)
[14:50] <erUSUL> !lucid | Iswanto
[14:50] <DoDi> how can I get an Ubuntu alpha version?
[14:50] <Pici> DoDi Iswanto : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:50] <Stargaze> MrEgg964, in Ubuntu it is called nwall
[14:50] <DoDi> thanks
[14:50] <Iswanto> thanks Pici
[14:51] <MrEgg964> nwall ?
[14:51] <Stargaze> MrEgg964, I found it in Synaptic
[14:52] <bay> woy
[14:52] <MrEgg964> Stargaze: it seems to be a chat program
[14:53] <wazzaaaaa> !bum
[14:54] <usuario_> hola
[14:54] <covic> servus
[14:54] <usuario_> cuanto
[14:54] <MrEgg964> Stargaze: I have users connecting to the server thru FreeNX ; I'd like to display notifications as I need - without using Termial
[14:54] <MrEgg964> *Terminal*
[14:55] <velizar> hi all
[14:55] <MrEgg964> Stargaze: I found something like notify-send, but it no longer seems to be supported
[14:55] <velizar> I would like to know how to uninstall completely a installed package in Ubuntu 9.10?
[14:56] <porta> velizar: apt-get --purge remove packagename
[14:56] <covic> aptitude purge
[14:56] <covic> ^^
[14:56] <N1co> hi
[14:56] <porta> or with synaptic
[14:56] <chili555> velizar, sudo apt-get remove --purge <yer_package>
[14:56] <N1co> i have a probleem
[14:56] <karma_police> whats the best way to uninstall a program if you didn't install it from the repo? I want to uninstall skype
[14:56] <velizar> first --purge or <package> --purge?
[14:57] <porta> velizar: as we typed it. packagename last
[14:57] <N1co> sorry problem
[14:57] <N1co> i can't use the command mv
[14:57] <erUSUL> karma_police: how did you installed it?
[14:57] <covic> do you have rights for mv?
[14:57] <erUSUL> N1co: details ?
[14:57] <velizar> ok
[14:57] <velizar> thx
[14:57] <terry_> N1co: What happens when you try to use mv?
[14:57] <N1co> i must mv a library from Desktop to  /usr/lib
[14:57] <karma_police> i downloaded it from the skype siteand installed it
[14:58] <terry_> N1co: sudo ?
[14:58] <erUSUL> N1co: use sudo
[14:58] <N1co> i'm italian
[14:58] <covic> do it with duso
[14:58] <covic> sudo
[14:58] <porta> N1co: sudo mv libfile /usr/lib
[14:58] <cristy> ola
[14:58] <N1co> no  don't use the right sintax
[14:58] <N1co> now i try
[14:58] <cristy> hello
[14:58] <erUSUL> karma_police: if you dled a deb file you can use aptitude purge packagename or synaptic
[14:59] <cristy> olaaaaaaaaaa
[14:59] <cristy> helloooooooooooooooooo
[14:59] <covic> skype comes in a deb file
[14:59] <erUSUL> !es | cristy
[14:59] <cristy> i am spanish
[14:59] <cristy> olaaaa
[15:00] <sipior> cristy: why are you wasting our time?
[15:00] <usuario_> sipior: haha
[15:00] <cristy> i am espanish
[15:00] <usuario_> cristy, I'm spanish too
[15:00] <usuario_> yo tambien soy espñaol
[15:00] <ech0dish> how do i add my pw for this user to register automatically when i log in with xchat-gnome
[15:00] <usuario_> puedes unirte a ubuntu-es
[15:00] <cristy> anda por fin
[15:00] <usuario_> jaja
[15:00] <cristy> y de donde eres?
[15:01] <usuario_> de andalucia
[15:01]  * Stargaze es de Amberes
[15:01] <cristy> y yo
[15:01]  * Stargaze esta de Amberes
[15:01] <cristy> de amberes no pero de andalucia si
[15:01] <abhi_nav> !en
[15:01] <ech0dish> i can't find the config settings... not many settings in the preferences..
[15:01] <inveratulo> Hello all - I have created a keyboard shortcut which opens a gnome terminal with the command 'gnome-terminal --geometry 125x32', whenever I use the shortcut the terminal does not open up to my user's home directory.  however if I click the panel icon with the exact same command the term opens properly into ~
[15:01] <cristy> soy de malaga
[15:01] <N1co> thank you so much...it's ok
[15:01] <usuario_> cristy aqui no podemos hablar offtopic
[15:01] <hamzaatova1> how do i upload files with ftp??????????????????????
[15:01] <karma_police> i did aptitude purge skype and  it is still there.. sorry i'm a noob
[15:01] <usuario_> bueh yo me marcho
[15:01] <abhi_nav> ech0dish: install comfiz fusion icon
[15:02] <erUSUL> cristy: usuario_ entrad en #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[15:02] <N1co> grazie porta
[15:02] <cristy> me aburro de tanto ingles
[15:02] <erUSUL> cristy:  Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[15:03] <karma_police> where do deb files install to? what folder?
[15:04] <Pici> karma_police: Anywhere.
[15:04] <erUSUL> karma_police: dpkg -L packagename
[15:04] <karma_police> i am trying to find the full packagename in order to uninstall it
[15:04] <erUSUL> karma_police: aptitude search skype
[15:05] <gaspard> karma_police: many different folders : for instance apache2 is mostly into /etc/apache2/ but also in /var/www/ and in /usr/share/somestuffs
[15:05] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, I uninstalled nautilus and then reinstall. After reboot, I can't log in to session. How to solve this?
[15:05] <Pici> karma_police: You can search in reverse then: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[15:06] <dayz> how do you define buttons on a mouse without using btnx?
[15:07] <TommyBrunn> Hey guys. I'm having some problems with my desktop at the moment. After an update this morning, x won't start anymore.
[15:07] <TommyBrunn> Is there anyone here who is knowledgeable in how to diagnose this problem?
[15:07] <TommyBrunn> And more importantly; fixing it.
[15:08] <raghdam> Is there a need for the 'ubuntu' user?  I tried googling, but as you'd imagine it is difficult to search for.
[15:08] <Iwannalern> Well, I managed to get Blender to work 30% faster with audio turned off, though that's not much of a solution
[15:08] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: what graphic card do you have . what graphic drivers did you use ?
[15:09] <TommyBrunn> erUSUL: ATi HD4850, using fglrx
[15:09] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: how did you installed them ? envyng ?
[15:10] <TommyBrunn> No, I installed it via a package from amd.
[15:10] <TommyBrunn> Is there a way to revert to the one in the repos?
[15:11] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: you have to reinstall them everytime there is a kernel update
[15:11] <TommyBrunn> erUSUL: Oh, that's a pain...
[15:11] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, I uninstalled nautilus and then reinstall. After reboot, I can't log in to session. How to solve this?
[15:11] <TommyBrunn> But how come it doesn't work even if I revert back to an older kernel?
[15:12] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: that's weird yes and i really dunno why
[15:12] <TommyBrunn> Then is there a way to, via the command line, remove the installed drivers and install the one in the repos?
[15:12] <TommyBrunn> You don't have to reinstall that with ever kernel update, right?
[15:12] <mikunos> hi guys is there a way to send an sms using my nokia and its addressbook?
[15:13] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: dunno (i have a nvidia card) consult ati docs regarding uninstall
[15:13] <erUSUL> TommyBrunn: no repo drivers are updated in sync with kernel updates (or that's the theory)
[15:13] <irene> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:13] <erUSUL> !es | irene
[15:13] <Stargaze> !es| irene
[15:14] <Martijn> What would you recommnend for a Gnome MySQLbrowser?
[15:14] <irene> loren
[15:14] <erUSUL> !info mergeant
[15:15] <duffydack> Did karmic 9.10 kernel 2.6.31-20 get an update to it, staying at 20, just now
[15:15] <Martijn> Thanks
[15:15] <Stargaze> Martijn, is this what you looking for? => http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=133103
[15:15] <Iwannalern> Yeah it seems I'm going to have to remove PulseAudio =\
[15:16] <Martijn> no not ebox
[15:16] <Martijn> I had a mysql gnome client, but i dont know which it was
[15:17] <GSF1200S> Im trying to have conky run a script thats in a temporary filesystem mounted in /home/user.. it keeps saying "Permission denied" even though ive chowned the directory to user and the script itself is user. Any ideas?
[15:17] <erUSUL> Martijn: i pointed out one to you
[15:18] <ruge> hey guys whats the envyng command to download nvidia driver?
[15:18] <Martijn> erSUL, thankt I will take a look
[15:18] <Martijn> its not in the default package manager isn't it?
[15:20] <Martijn> ah i got it
[15:20] <erUSUL> Martijn: it is
[15:20] <Madwill> my eth1 does not have an ip what can go wrong ?
[15:21] <raghdam> Madwill: Does your eth0?
[15:21] <zeroseven0183> Hi! I wonder if there's a way to bypass the "continue Y/N" in Terminal whenever I'm trying to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <application>"
[15:21] <jeanfi> ruge: you can just go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers it should propose you to activate the nvidia driver
[15:22] <erUSUL> zeroseven0183: apt-get accepts -y iirc see its man page
[15:23] <ruge> cheers
[15:23] <ruge> thanks
[15:23] <ruge> all done :0
[15:23] <ruge> :)
[15:25] <rami> Hi! I've got a problem: I cannot access my Ubuntu karmic 64-bit since today. If I enter my password Ubuntu accepts it but shows me the login screen again after a few seconds. In .xsession-errors I've found something about a gpg-agent configuration file, in syslog I did not find any interresting lines. Does anyone has an idea?
[15:27] <robyromania> hi, how can i remove the packages that i installed for compiling a program? i mean the ones installed with apt-get build-dep ?
[15:27] <Madwill> raghdam i do not have a eth0 for some reason
[15:27] <erUSUL> robyromania: you will need the libs installed
[15:27] <isolat3dsh33p> Hey guys, uninstalled nautilus, and reinstalled. But after reboot I can't login to session. Any idea how to solve this?
[15:27] <Madwill> i can get eth1:0 to get an ip but that just temporary i guess
[15:27] <erUSUL> robyromania: you can remove the *-dev packages though
[15:28] <Madwill> using raghdam>
[15:28] <Madwill> raghdam> sudo ifconfig eth1:0 .....
[15:28] <n8w> hey
[15:28] <robyromania> erUSUL: but is there a way to only remove those *-dev packages from a certain program, not everything?
[15:29] <kubanc> is there a log for todays chat in #ubuntu channel. i forgot something and i cannot remember...
[15:29] <erUSUL> robyromania: automatic no. maybe you can do a dirty scriptlet to do it ...
[15:29] <erUSUL> !logs
[15:29] <robyromania> erUSUL: i was searching for something automatic. i'll try *-dev. thanks!
[15:30] <robyromania> erUSUL: one more thing.. how do i do it? :D
[15:30] <g00dwill> Anyone know of a why to hide the tabs while gnome terminal is in fullscreen mode? It's annoying.. and I really don't want to configure xterm or use screen.
[15:30] <kubanc> I already found it
[15:31] <Notscape> Hi, does anybody here have experience in 6.06 (server) to 8.04 (server) direct upgrade ?
[15:32] <llutz> robyromania: try this , xxx = your packagename:     apt-get remove $(apt-get --simulate build-dep xxx|grep "^Inst"|awk '{print  $2}')
[15:32] <Notscape> my 6.06 is a minimal LAMP instalation plus postfix, courier, squirrel, clamav, spamassassin, amavisd-new
[15:34] <erUSUL> Notscape: see !upgrade factopid also check in #ubuntu-server. the less extra packages instaled the less chance of conflcts or problems arising.
[15:35] <Notscape> erUSUL: yes ! only was wondering if someone here had troubles or the procedure is straightforward
[15:35] <rami> ok, problem solved, it was gpg
; cntl -alt f1 = fullscreen
[15:35] <robyromania> llutz: it's just saying that nothing was upgraded, installed or removed
[15:35] <isolat3dsh33p> ..
[15:35] <testi> I need quakestat to query game master servers, now quakestat doesn't provide any master server addresses. How can I figure out these. I need to know the master server address for ETQW as example.
[15:36] <erUSUL> Notscape: i do not have direct experience sorry
[15:36] <JediMaster> I've got some weird network issues happening with a gigabit router that only seem to affect ubuntu. I've got a karmic box acting as a router for the network, I've got a desktop machine that runs karmic and dual boots with windows 7. Both machines have gigabit connections, the desktop is connected to a gigabit switch that is connected via cat5e to another gigabit switch to the karmic router..
[15:36] <Notscape> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[15:36] <JediMaster> after that it connects via a cat5e cable to a 100mbps port on the back of an adsl router.
[15:36] <g00dwill> etsorbme8: I'm in fullscreen. However, if you create tabs it bumps you out into "almost" fullscreen while showing tabs.
[15:37] <JediMaster> I've got 11-12Mbps adsl, and while in windows I can get 1.3MBytes/sec easily, when routing through the karmic box
[15:37] <JediMaster> if I switch to ubuntu on the desktop it drops to 250-300kbytes/sec
[15:37] <JediMaster> which is the same bandwidth I get on the karmic router box
[15:37] <karma> i have uninstalled skype but when i re-install it all my login and history is still there.. i am trying to get rid of that so it will have a fresh start with no history..
[15:37] <JediMaster> if I replace the switch that is connected to the karmic router for a 10/100 switch it jumps to 1.3MB/sec
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> karma:  the package manager system does NOT remove configs from the users home dirs.. If you want them gone. find them and remove them.
[15:38] <karma> how do i find them?
[15:38] <raghdam> karma: do an ls -a in ~
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> karma:  theres proberly no need to be remove/reinstlling skype either.. just cleaning out the files from the users home. would 'reset' the settings
[15:38] <killown> what's the best filesystem for use in /home?
[15:38] <JediMaster> I've replaced the gigabit switch connected to the router 3 times with different makes and it always happens
[15:39] <erUSUL> killown: ext4
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> karma:  fundamental differeance btween linux and windows. :)
[15:39] <raghdam> killown: fat32
[15:39] <erUSUL> robyromania: o.0!!!!!
[15:39] <jangirke> hi all
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> killown:  ext3 or ext4 are the normal choices
[15:39] <erUSUL> raghdam: o.0!!!!
[15:39] <killown> raghdam fat32 takes very processor load
[15:39] <manhunter> hi
[15:39] <erUSUL> robyromania: sorry not for you
[15:39] <killown> hmm
[15:39] <karma> i'm still a noob at linux.
[15:39] <jangirke> I wanna build a deb package from source
[15:39] <killown> Dr_Willis, i can set user permissions on fat32 filesystem?
[15:39] <Myrtti> raghdam: eh, fat can't be even used for home, or shouldn't
[15:39] <robyromania> erUSUL: no problem
[15:39] <raghdam> i didn't actually think it would let you
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> killown:  you dont want to use fat32 for 'home' ignore that suggeston
[15:40] <karma> i have no clue where to find the config files for it..
[15:40] <killown> Dr_Willis, fat43 allow set user permissions?
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> karma:  proberly sonthing like in .skype or .config/skype
[15:40] <erUSUL> karma: probably ~/.skype/
[15:40] <raghdam> Myrtti: I don't think it can because you can't set file permissions on it.
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> killown:  it does not have the same features as ext2/3/4 - you CANT use it for /home
[15:41] <jangirke> NEED TO BUILD DEB PACKAGE FROM SCRATCH
[15:41] <raghdam> OK!!
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> !source | jangirke
[15:41] <erUSUL> !caps
[15:41] <killown> Dr_Willis, i need share it with windows 7
[15:41] <karma> in home folder?
[15:41] <erUSUL> karma: yes ~ == $HOME == /home/<username>
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> killown:  share as in a 'windows network share' or share on the same machine? If the latter.. use a ntfs or fat32 partitioon as a 'avail to both os's location'
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> killown:  as for a network share. the FS wouldent really matter.
[15:42] <killown> in thes same machine
[15:42] <erUSUL> karma: files/dir that begin with a dot are hidden in linux. do Ctrl + H to view them in nautilus
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> killown:  make a ntfs partion to let both os's have access to a common area.
[15:42] <killown> but pulse-session dones not work with ntfs
[15:43] <jangirke> @ALL wipe-2.3.1.tar.bz2 -> wipe-2.3.1.deb
[15:43] <karma> ty.. just googled hidden files when u said that
[15:43] <killown> Dr_Willis ntfs i cant set user permissions
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> killown:  you DONT use fat32 or NTFS for /home - You MUST use a linxu type filesystem for home.
[15:44] <llutz> killown: it cant store unix-permissions
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> killown: linux can access ntfs or vfat if you want  - make a spare partion of that type for the 'shared data'
[15:44] <killown> llutz, fat32  can do that?
[15:45] <llutz> killown: no non-unix-filesystem can
[15:45] <ddavids> pls i just started my laptop after a clean shutdown and i cant see my volume and network icons anymo... and they are not even in the add to panel window...
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> (windows) (linux)(Swap)(SomeSharedData of Fat32 OR ntfs)
[15:45] <jangirke> @ALL tar xvjf wipe*.tar.bz2 gives me Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 1000: Operation not permitted
[15:45] <jangirke> and I am root
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> jangirke:  thers no need tobe untaring it as root most likely.
[15:46] <sash_> jangirke: ntfs-partition perhaps?
[15:46] <ruben_> eyyy
[15:46] <abhi_nav> in charachter set, keyboard shortcut for U+FF27. but what is or where is U?
[15:46] <jangirke> sash no ubuntu live cd
[15:46] <Guest59610> alguien abla español
[15:46] <abhi_nav> in charachter set, keyboard shortcut for G U+FF27. but what is or where is U?
[15:47] <Guest59610> the facker mader
[15:47] <jangirke> sash no ubuntu live cd and I want to wipe an ext4 partition on a SATA device
[15:47] <erUSUL> !es
[15:47] <karma> thanks for the help. the transition  from windows to linux would be pretty hard without support.
[15:48] <blueglasses> anyone knows what channel gives wubi support?
[15:48] <sash_> jangirke: is this tbz2-file a compressed dd-image?
[15:48] <hoonches> is "akonadi" supposed to be installed by default? i really don't know what it is and why I have it.
[15:50] <luis> hello everyone
[15:50] <abhi_nav> in Apps=>accessories=>charachter set, keyboard shortcut for G is U+FF27. but what is or where is U?
[15:51] <hoonches> is "akonadi" supposed to be installed by default? i really don't know what it is and why I have it.
[15:51] <sipior> hoonches: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi
[15:51] <hoonches> abhi_nav: do you write scripts?
[15:51] <abhi_nav> hoonches: no. but what it is to do with my questions?
[15:52] <luis> somebody know if the floppy disk drive issue on ubuntu 9.10 was fixed?
[15:52] <hoonches> sipior: ive allready read that and my question remains. What the hell is it doing on my installation?
[15:52] <sipior> hoonches: perhaps you have kde4 installed.
[15:52] <hoonches> nope
[15:52] <sipior> hoonches: if it bothers you, remove it.
[15:53] <hoonches> well it's not malware is it?
[15:53] <luis>  somebody know if the floppy disk drive issue on ubuntu 9.10 was fixed?
[15:53] <sipior> hoonches: i believe the wikipedia article would have answered that.
[15:53] <hoonches> it say's its a server. i dont want any servers running on my system
[15:54] <sipior> hoonches: not even an X server?
[15:54] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:54] <luis> .
[15:54] <abhi_nav> hoonches: what ?
[15:54] <hoonches> sipior: what does that mean?
[15:54] <hoonches> abhi_nav: maybe "U" is the letter U
[15:55] <luis> [_]P
[15:55] <nixpet> hello  fellow ubuntuers
[15:55] <abhi_nav> hoonches: real prob is letter P is not working on my frnds pc. so want to know how to type letter P using keyboard shorctu of character set?
[15:55] <the_king4> hi, can someone help me with UbuntuOne
[15:55] <the_king4> ?
[15:56] <luis> is this a help channel?
[15:56] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. My question: I have a comp running Ubuntu that I have used only as a server - it has had no audio card. Can I now install an audio card - it is supported by Ubuntu - and how do I configure it once it's installed?
[15:56] <gmachine_24> luis, yes.
[15:56] <sipior> luis: ideally :-)
[15:57] <underdev> luis: if you're lucky :)
[15:57] <gmachine_24> sometimes moreso than others
[15:57] <the_king4> yeah, but nobody can help me xD
[15:57] <luis> ok thank . somebody know if the floppy disk drive issue on ubuntu 9.10 was fixed?
[15:57] <gmachine_24> the_king4, what's the problem? I just got here. Oh ... you mean... nevermind
[15:57] <gmachine_24> luis, I was unaware of this.
[15:58] <souma_> can i use minicom to detect card fax modem?????????help
[15:58] <ubuntubama> Enter text here...
[15:58] <the_king4> I've got a problem with UbuntuOne... It does not work very well^^ It doesn't sync files
[15:58] <luis> <gmachine_24 ok thank anyway
[15:58] <underdev> the_king4: i have made a slight effort to use ubuntu one, but when it wasn't immediately working, i just kept using dropbox
[15:59] <underdev> the_king4: 2gigs free, supports all kinds of OSes
[15:59] <underdev> I wouldn't mind figuring out how to use ubuntu one though
[15:59] <underdev> esp for my ubuntu only things, like my .emacs.d folder
[16:00] <ChogyDan> the_king4: same here, Im thinking the solution is dropbox
[16:00] <underdev> "folder" lol.  directory, i mean directory
[16:00] <the_king4> hm
[16:00] <the_king4> ok
[16:00] <the_king4> let's use dropbox^^
[16:00] <underdev> i mean, i have no affiliation with them.  its just what i use.
[16:01] <Genscher> is this the right channel to ask about a weird wget?
[16:01] <york105> I use UbuntuOne and its been working like a charm
[16:02] <underdev> i'm checking out ubuntu one now.
[16:02] <elfranne> I have a ubuntu server without screen/keyboard that crash once/twice a week, where can i see some logs about what happen ?
[16:02] <sipior> Genscher: if you have a problem with wget on your ubuntu install, i would say yes, it is :-)
[16:03] <Boondoklife> I love ubuntuone, cant wait till it is fully working in lucid though. It works great in karmic as it is though
[16:03] <york105> Log files are usually stored in /var/log
[16:03] <sinistrad> underdev, is ubuntuone working?
[16:03] <york105>  /var/log/boot : System boot log
[16:03] <underdev> i'm still waiting for my email to submitted
[16:03] <ddavids>  pls i just started my laptop after a clean shutdown and i cant see my volume and network icons anymo... and they are not even in the add to panel window...
[16:03] <underdev> okay, "registration mail sent"
[16:03] <the_king4> ubuntuone has no symbol anymore
[16:04] <sinistrad> underdev, ahh, I tried it last night and couldn't get it working
[16:05] <underdev> sinistrad: it says it's sent, but it hung for a while and the email hasn't arrived yet
[16:05] <Genscher> I am using wget to download an ubuntu iso image from cdimage.ubuntu.com ("wget -c file.iso"). Now after some resumes i get some error "HTTP request sent, awaiting response" and then "connection timed out in header". Now the funny thing is that the download works if i drop the "-c". But i don't want to loose my 300MB already downloaded.  @ sipior ;)
[16:05] <the_king4> the last update damaged ubuntuone
[16:05] <underdev> bouncing around the intertubes, i suppose
[16:05] <ddavids>  pls i just started my laptop after a clean shutdown and i cant see my volume and network icons anymo... and they are not even in the add to panel window...
[16:06] <Ddorda> is the new Ubuntu font available already?
[16:06] <ddavids> theadmin: pls can u help? i just started my laptop after a clean shutdown and i cant see my volume and network icons anymo... and they are not even in the add to panel window...
[16:06] <underdev> Genscher: this doesn't solve your problem, but i've had great success using the torrents to download ubuntu 2M a second is normal
[16:06] <schiellerup> some1, there can help me with some few problems?
[16:07] <sinistrad> underdev,  it may take a while depending on your email host. mine was instant through gmail
[16:07] <theadmin> ddavids: Eh me? :/ Anyway, those are not separate applets, add the Notification Area applet
[16:07] <Genscher> underdev, is there a torrent app which can resume a "normal" downloaded file?
[16:07] <roberto_> olola
[16:07] <schiellerup> Some1, there can help me with some few problems?
[16:07] <underdev> Genscher: i don't know, i've always used one or another
[16:08] <schiellerup> Some1, there can help me with some few problems?
[16:08] <Genscher> underdev, but anyway - torrent is a good idea, but i cannot find any for alpha3
[16:08] <ddavids> theadmin: thank you for responding but wht if it doesnt work?
[16:08] <york105> schiellerup, ask :)
[16:08] <sinistrad> !ask | schiellerup
[16:08] <schiellerup> oki :)
[16:08] <theadmin> ddavids: No idea :/ it should.
[16:08] <ceterus> hello, over the past few days ive been writing a script to automate a process, after getting the script to work exactly like planned i tried putting it in as a cron process, cron attempts to run the script (verified by the timestamp on the file) but it does not run, i am assuming this is an error in my script: http://pastebin.com/KPDbgav2  any ideas on how i can fix this? ive been searching for answers with little luck
[16:08] <ddavids> theadmin: i hope i dont have to reinstall cos of tht...
[16:08] <schiellerup> I have just installed Ubuntu on my PC, and i can't install any programs! :(
[16:08] <Genscher> schiellerup, Package Manager?
[16:09] <york105> Have you tried the Ubuntu software centre
[16:09] <york105> ?
[16:09] <schiellerup> i have tried it
[16:09] <underdev> schiellerup: what happens?
[16:09] <york105> what errors do you get?
[16:09] <ddavids> theadmin: thank you very much...
[16:09] <schiellerup> i need the Office 2007, Flash player, Java etc
[16:09] <Some_Person> stupid GParted says "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[16:09] <underdev> schiellerup: do you have a network connection?
[16:09] <roberto_> olle a quien le aya dado el ordenador que digan yo
[16:09] <schiellerup> yes
[16:09] <jeanfi> Some_Person, anyway that's right:)
[16:10] <ppaulhus> Hi. Just wondering, is bluetooth well supported under linux/ubuntu? I just got a bluetooth wireless keyboard... so I'll get a usb bluetooth thingy.. just wondering if it might be a pain to get working or not.
[16:10] <theadmin> schiellerup: Office 2007? ROFL, dude, that ain't gonna work on Ubuntu. As for Flash and Java, do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer sun-java6-plugin"
[16:10] <sinistrad> !es | roberto_
[16:10] <underdev> sinistrad: yahoo webmail is usually pretty good in the immediate gratification area...
[16:10] <LinuxUser3890> ppaulhus yeah i use mine all the time
[16:10] <Some_Person> jeanfi: But I've been living with this error for the past year or so without issues. How should I fix it? Or is it a problem with GParted?
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> ppaulhus:  depends on the device..  Theres some wiki/guides on setting stuff up
[16:10] <york105> okay, one at a time, flash player is available in the synaptic package manager
[16:10] <sinistrad> underdev, Yes, yahoo should be nearly instant as well
[16:10] <psusi> Genscher: generally if you put the file in the place with the right name that the torrent is trying to save to, it will inspect it on startup, validate any chunks it can, and download the rest
[16:10] <york105> and office 2007 can be run using wine
[16:11] <theadmin> york105: Doesn't work for me :/ Tried just for fun lol
[16:11] <york105> you'll need the original CD though, you can install wine from synaptic
[16:11] <roberto_> ola
[16:11] <ppaulhus> Dr_Willis: and by device you mean the actual keyboard, or the usb bluetooth thing?
[16:11] <jeanfi> Some_Person,  I have never see this error, maybe the size of the partition that you want to create exceed the remaining free size of your disk?
[16:11] <schiellerup> where can i find the Sudo?
[16:11] <york105> you mean running office under wine?
[16:11] <LinuxUser3890> york105 you need the beta version of wine
[16:11] <underdev> schiellerup: i would recommend using the software center and search for "restricted"
[16:11] <schiellerup> i am in the Package Manager
[16:11] <Some_Person> jeanfi: GParted shows an unallocated disk with that warning
[16:12] <LinuxUser3890> york105 get the wine repository and install it then
[16:12] <theadmin> schiellerup: Just run this command in terminal: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin flashplugin-installer"
[16:12] <york105> sure, Sudo is present by default, it elevates your privileges temporarily, you don't need to install it
[16:12] <Genscher> psusi, great, only have to find alpha3 torrents yet :)
[16:12] <underdev> Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center
[16:12] <york105> yeah, agree with theadmin
[16:12] <underdev> and search for "restricted"
[16:12] <york105> agree with underdev
[16:12] <psusi> Some_Person: sounds like you have an invalid partition that appears to be larger than the disk... are you using a raid setup?
[16:12] <theadmin> Any idea why is there an "Eject" button near my NTFS partition in Nautilus?
[16:12] <underdev> this will get you a lot of goodies
[16:12] <Some_Person> psusi: No raid
[16:13] <york105> eject on NTFS only does one thing "safely unmount" wonder why they had to call it eject
[16:13] <schiellerup> Terminal says: No command 'sudo' found,
[16:13] <psusi> Genscher: go to the download link on Ubuntu.com, pick a mirror, and get the alpha3.iso.torrent
[16:13] <underdev> york105: they mistyped "reject"?
[16:13] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all
[16:14] <theadmin> ^mNotIntelligent: Hi
[16:14] <york105> just try this on the terminal > sudo -i
[16:14] <york105> and enter your password
[16:14] <psusi> theadmin: so you can eject the partition of course
[16:14] <jeanfi> (your user password not the root password)
[16:14] <york105> this will give you root privileges
[16:14] <theadmin> jeanfi: There is no root password ;)
[16:14] <^mNotIntelligent> can anyone help me fiixng vmware errors in ubuntu 9.04, this error: /dev/vmmon not found, no such file or directory
[16:14] <york105> yes, ofcourse :) user password
[16:14] <psusi> Some_Person: so you only have a single hard disk?  pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[16:14] <schiellerup> done
[16:14] <schiellerup> then what?
[16:14] <Genscher> psusi, thanks for your help :)
[16:15] <jeanfi> theadmin, by default you are right, I am always setting the root password personnaly:)
[16:15] <underdev> now you have the java jre, flash, some fonts, and whatnot
[16:15] <underdev> as for office, you should seriously consider giving open office a try
[16:15] <Some_Person> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396784/
[16:15] <theadmin> grah anyway, how do i disable the stupid, stupid "Your battery may be broken" warning?
[16:15] <underdev> or if your needs are simpler, google docs
[16:16] <theadmin> underdev: Indeed, OpenOffice rocks, i use it even on Windows.
[16:16] <underdev> they both handle ms office documents well
[16:16] <theadmin> underdev: Apart from formulae, those don't get processed very well in OOo, but... well, not that big of a deal
[16:16] <underdev> theadmin: me too :)  i farking hate ms office now.  My lawyer was blown away when i showed him the
[16:17] <frankerad> Harddrive problem: I'm running ubuntu 9.10 on a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop, it's about one year old and i've had Vista/W7/Ubuntu/Linux Mint installed on it. No problems with the drive until I reinstalled Ubuntu the other night. Now Disk utility says the disk has got bad sectors, 7 of them to be precise. Is this something I should be worried about?
[16:17] <underdev> theadmin: one click pdf :)
[16:17] <theadmin> underdev: lol yeah that one is cool
[16:17] <psusi> Some_Person: hrm... how about sudo fdisk -lu?
[16:17] <guntbert> ^mNotIntelligent: try it in #vmware
[16:17] <^mNotIntelligent> guntbert, thx
[16:17] <schiellerup> what about games? i tried to install Warcraft 3 - Frozen throne (to play it with my friends), and steam etc
[16:18] <Blue12> i am trying to recover a linux install after installing windows - I've mounted the drive, did an update-grub with it comes back with cannot find a device for /
[16:18] <etsorbme8> is there anyway to restart the usb ports?
[16:18] <schiellerup> it said, that i couldent download it, because it was a ZIP or a on a nother disc
[16:18] <underdev> schiellerup: you are going to ahve to install "wine"
[16:18] <Some_Person> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396786/
[16:18] <theadmin> schiellerup: Do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get installed wine". Only this way you can run Windows apps (.exe files)
[16:18] <schiellerup> ok
[16:18] <theadmin> damn wtf did i just say o_O
[16:18] <psusi> Some_Person: yep... your extended partition, sda4, runs off the end of the disk
[16:18] <sinistrad> underdev, if you have problems out of ubuntuone, check out #ubuntuone, I wasn't able to get anyone in there to answer at 3AM, but they might be awake now
[16:18] <Some_Person> psusi: /dev/sdb is actually an SD card by the way
[16:19] <theadmin> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine", i mean
[16:19] <underdev> sinistrad: i'm just waiting for cononicals email :)
[16:19] <sinistrad> underdev, =)
[16:19] <underdev> sinistrad: and there we go
[16:19] <Some_Person> psusi: Can this be fixed without wiping anything?
[16:20] <schiellerup> thx
[16:20] <sinistrad> underdev, I'm off to sleep.  catcha later
[16:20] <psusi> Some_Person: yes.... you can use fdisk to delete the partition and recreate it with the exact same start sector, but change the end to where it should be
[16:20] <Some_Person> psusi: Would that not erase the partition though?
[16:21] <psusi> Some_Person: no... just make it smaller
[16:21] <psusi> Some_Person: and since the extended partiotion appears to only contain a swap partition, which ends before the disk runs out, this should be fine
[16:21] <theadmin> Some_Person: You will lose all data this way, though.
[16:21] <schiellerup> i have installed WINE now
[16:21] <Some_Person> psusi: true. I don't care if that swap partition is wiped
[16:21] <schiellerup> it says: End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[16:21] <schiellerup>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[16:21] <schiellerup>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[16:21] <schiellerup>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[16:21] <FloodBot3> schiellerup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <ranjan> hello every body i am having an issue with ,,, dlink router i  am trying to share my internet connection with it .. i am being provided with an  privte set of ip values ..  does any body knows how to fed those date in dlink  router .. any help would be of great help .. thanks in advance
[16:21] <rsk> schiellerup with great power comes great responsibility
[16:21] <theadmin> schiellerup: Good, now tell your system to open EXE files with WINE.
[16:21] <Blue12> how can I recover linux after a windows install?
[16:21] <Some_Person> psusi: Since I'm booted to the SD card at the moment, I can do it from here
[16:22] <theadmin> Blue12: Live discs
[16:22] <psusi> Some_Person: though the easiest thing to fix it if you do not feel comfortable in the command line is to boot the livecd, and blow away the swap and extended partition, then recreate them, since you don't really care about loosing the contents of the swap partition
[16:22] <Blue12> theadmin
[16:22] <theadmin> Blue12: grub-install /dev/sda1 or something similar
[16:22] <Some_Person> psusi: Err, gparted isn't working
[16:22] <ZykoticK9> Blue1, are you using Karmic or something earlier?
[16:22] <schiellerup> how do i say, it shall open it with WINE?
[16:22] <psusi> Some_Person: ohh, right... it refused to work with an invalid partition table ;)
[16:22] <Blue12> theadmin well I tried that when I boot I get a bash:grub> prompt
[16:22] <theadmin> schiellerup: Right click it... Properties -> Open With -> WINE
[16:23] <Some_Person> psusi: Can you just give me instructions to do it from here? I'm booted to a full lucid install on an SD card
[16:23] <psusi> Some_Person: then just use fdisk to delete sda5 and sda4 and reboot then you should be fine to use gparted again
[16:23] <theadmin> Blue12: And update-grub thereafter, i think, but not sure about this step, check out help.ubuntu.com
[16:23] <Some_Person> psusi: I'm not very familiar with fdisk and do not want to screw this up
[16:23] <ZykoticK9> Blue12, are you using Karmic or something earlier?
[16:23] <Blue12> and I tried the update but it complained about not finding /
[16:24] <elfranne> http://pastebin.com/WXBgH4Jc this is an extract of my /var/log/syslog ... is it php that is crashing my linux box ?
[16:24] <Blue12> ZykoticK9: I am using 9.10 I think that's karmic
[16:24] <theadmin> Blue12: I have an article on recovering grub somewhere, just a sec
[16:24] <Blue12> theadmin k
[16:24] <psusi> Some_Person: just run sudo fdisk /dev/sda... it has simple built in help... you delete those last two partitions, p to print and make sure it looks the same except for 4 and 5, then w to save and quit
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | Blue12
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> Blue12, see the link - you need to boot LiveCD / chroot then fix grub
[16:25] <theadmin> Blue12: Here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:25] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, that doesn't apply to karmic!
[16:25] <hal> is it necessary to install autofs, if you want a dvd to be mounted automatically?
[16:25] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Uh, it does. "If you are running 9.10..." it has info both on GRUB 2 AND grub 1
[16:25] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, sorry - yes it does - it's updated now, sorry
[16:26] <psusi> Some_Person: once you are rid of the broken partition, you should be able to use gparted and recreate the swap partition if you wish
[16:26] <guntbert> Some_Person: but be aware that lucid is still alpha and so *might* do something weird
[16:26] <Some_Person> guntbert: I know.
[16:27] <guntbert> Some_Person: :)
[16:27] <sykoknot> Is there anyway to completely uninstall windows xp from a wubi installed xubuntu?
[16:27] <suano> Olaa
[16:27] <psusi> sykoknot: no... since ubuntu lives INSIDE windows when you install with wubi
[16:28] <suano> ola
[16:28] <ZykoticK9> !es > suano
[16:28] <Screamo_Smurf> How do i uninstall Kubuntu-desktop?
[16:28] <edburns> Hello, I want to copy over my .gnupg directory from another machine to my new Ubuntu 9.1 machine.  However, when I rm -rf the .gnupg on the new machine, some process automatically creates a new one.  Why and Who?
[16:28] <suano> soy de guadalinex edu
[16:28] <CalmvsKhaos> how do you turn down the gamma/brightness of a monitor in Ubuntu? (I know i could just adjust the monitor physically, but you have to go through like 10 settings to get to it on this monitor)
[16:29] <psusi> sykoknot: so you should reinstall without using wubi and just tell it to use the whole disk... or if you are feeling adventurous, you can try creating a partition and migrating the system over to it, delete the original windows partition, then expand the new system partition to use up the whole disk
[16:29] <ncfi1013> will there be any ipod support in amarok now or in the future? anybody who has any knowledge of where i can find some info please let me know. thanks.
[16:29] <suano> ai alguien k sea de españa?
[16:29] <theadmin> What are the advantages of a clean install over the upgrade? (I'm just wondering... well, Lucid is gonna be out soon...)
[16:29] <ZykoticK9> !es > suano
[16:29] <sykoknot> Than is there a way to minimize the amount of space windows xp takes up to where only the fundamentals needed to run ubuntu are left?
[16:29] <suano> no ablo ingles
[16:30] <theadmin> !es | suano
[16:30] <Some_Person> psusi: seems I have to reboot
[16:30] <Some_Person> brb
[16:30] <sinistrad> ncfi1013, Ubuntu has support for iPods, depending on the model. Lucid (10.04) is supposed to have support for iPhone/iTouch
[16:30] <suano> gracias aboutuu
[16:30] <Oasa> hello every one I installed Windows 7. Now i realize Windows is still so lame that it cant recognize that I have Ubuntu 8.04 already installed. It rewrote my MBR. Now is there any way i can get back my ubuntu ? Ubuntu is still there and Its not formatted. Please help me
[16:30] <UbuntuLily> I am getting this error when attempting to update Ubuntu.  I have tried changing servers and reloading packages.  Here is the error:  W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:30] <ceterus> hello, over the past few days ive been writing a script to automate a process, after getting the script to work exactly like planned i tried putting it in as a cron process, cron attempts to run the script (verified by the timestamp on the file) but it does not run, i am assuming this is an error in my script: http://pastebin.com/KPDbgav2  any ideas on how i can fix this? ive been searching on google with little luck
[16:31] <theadmin> Oasa: Another one :D Were just talking about this. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:31] <suano> pero...ahi alguien que sea de España?
[16:31] <sykoknot> I do not have a cd so migrating my partition would be my only choice. Though I'm guessing that could be problematic.
[16:31] <elfranne> http://pastebin.com/WXBgH4Jc this is an extract of my /var/log/syslog ... is it php that is crashing my linux box ?
[16:31] <CalmvsKhaos> Tomorrow is the Beta release :)  *Dances around*
[16:31] <^mNotIntelligent> CalmvsKhaos, really ???
[16:31] <ncfi1013> sinistrad: i have ipod model 4th gen nano video shake and shuffle. what of that? when is lucid lynx out?
[16:31] <suano> y si digo palabrotas la gente me entiende?
[16:31] <CalmvsKhaos> yep the 18th :)
[16:32] <Blue12> ZykoticK9: when I try to run update-grub I get back cannot find a device for /
[16:32] <^mNotIntelligent> CalmvsKhaos, awesome ... you rock man ,,,, Ubuntu rocks !
[16:32] <sinistrad> ncfi1013, I had used gtkpod for a few years now with several iPod models
[16:32] <Pici> !es | suano
[16:32] <Oasa> theadmin : I have already looked about some articles. They asked me to write "sudo grub" then in grub "root (hd0,0)" and then setup (hd0) .. but it doesnt work .. I tried installing Auto Super GRUB or a program close to that. It also did not work.
[16:32] <suano> por ejemplo:guarra, la gemnte me entiende?
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> Blue12, haven't run into that before - hopefully someone else will have a suggestion.  Good luck.
[16:32] <Oasa> I am using Ubuntu Hardy and Right now I am on Ubuntu LIVE
[16:32] <theadmin> Oasa: Actually, I never did so... sorry. Can only give that article...
[16:33] <suano> pollas gordas para poder follar
[16:33] <Jezz27> was PPI positive today?
[16:33] <CalmvsKhaos> suano, can you stop?
[16:33] <theadmin> !ops | suano won't go away, we gave him !es a ton of times already
[16:33] <suano> puta de mierdaaaaaaa
[16:33] <Blue12> ZykoticK9: well it looks like I am doing a linux install this can't be fixed and I am quite unhappy
[16:33] <theadmin> Woah that was quick
[16:33] <Oasa> So is there any one who can fix my mbr so that it boots both windows and ubuntu ?
[16:33] <sinistrad> ncfi1013, and Lucid will be released at the end of April
[16:33] <Some_Person> psusi: Thank you, all is well now
[16:33] <schiellerup> Admin, can u try to send the installation command to WINE again?, i'm not sure that i have the correct 1.....
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> Blue12, i'm sorry i can't help - but perhaps someone else can?!
[16:34] <Blue12> ZykoticK9: that would be kewl
[16:34] <Oasa> !es | Oasa
[16:34] <theadmin> schiellerup: Uh. Hm. Try like this in terminal: wine "/path/to/windowsprogram.exe"
[16:34] <CalmvsKhaos> how do you turn down the gamma/brightness of a monitor in Ubuntu? (I know i could just adjust the monitor physically, but you have to go through like 10 settings to get to it on this monitor)
[16:34] <wolter> hi
[16:34] <wolter> Pici, just installed xchat and was unbanned
[16:34] <Oasa> Some one please help me install GRUB
[16:35] <Oasa> so that it boots an existing ubuntu 8.04 and Windows 7 ?
[16:35] <wolter> Oasa, its very easy with 9.10 Cd
[16:35] <Pici> wolter: Yes, it was a problem with the bot that does the webchat stuff.
[16:35] <wolter> oh
[16:35] <theadmin> CalmvsKhaos: Hm dunno, there is a shortcut key here for this, fn+{f5|f6}
[16:35] <Pici> Thats fixed now anyway.
[16:35] <wolter> Pici, good
[16:35] <Oasa> wolter : I have only 8.04
[16:35] <wolter> Oh
[16:35] <wolter> then I don't know how to
[16:35] <Some_Person> psusi: There's still a little weirdness though. There's 8MB unallocated between 2 of my partitions
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> CalmvsKhaos, if you are using Nvidia - gamma can be set in nvidia-settings - for other cards I don't know.
[16:35] <theadmin> CalmvsKhaos: Might be just my comp though, dunno
[16:35] <Oasa> I did not upgrade because I am planning to upgrade only @ Lucid (another LTS) I cant just do a clean install again.
[16:35] <Stargaze> Oasa, Google is your friend => search 'repair grub'
[16:35] <Screamo_Smurf> Anyone know how to uninstall everything that was installed when i installed xubuntu-desktop?
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> !google > Stargaze
[16:36] <Oasa> Stargaze : I tried some methods, but nothing worked :(
[16:36] <Oasa> !google > Oasa
[16:36] <theadmin> Screamo_Smurf: Sure, do "sudo tasksel", go to "Xubuntu desktop", hit space, hit enter.
[16:36] <schiellerup> that dosent work
[16:36] <CalmvsKhaos> theadmin, yeah those keys dont do anything on my box, (IF IT was Windows, it would be the Rewind and Play buttons on my HP keyboard for FN + F5/F6) But thanks anyways :)
[16:36] <UbuntuLily> I am getting this error when attempting to update Ubuntu.  I have tried changing servers and reloading packages.  Here is the error:  W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[16:36] <Oasa> ﻿ZykoticK9: Can you help me ?
[16:36] <Oasa> !bing | oasa
[16:37] <schiellerup> hmm admin, "wine "/path/to/windowsprogram.exe" dosent work in Terminal...
[16:37] <Emanon> CalmvsKhaos: might try keytouch and keytouch editor to map your own special keys
[16:37] <theadmin> schiellerup: Sigh, did you put a correct path to a Windows EXE file?
[16:37] <eraggo> schiellerup: replace /path/to to real path to your program
[16:37] <theadmin> schiellerup: Might be something like /media/cdrom/Setup.exe
[16:37] <CalmvsKhaos> Emanon, those in the repos?
[16:37] <Emanon> yes
[16:38] <Emanon> they are CalmvsKhaos
[16:38] <schiellerup> what you mean?
[16:38] <CalmvsKhaos> cool thanks Emanon!
[16:38] <theadmin> grah... noobs. That's it, i'm not helping this guy anymore.
[16:38] <Screamo_Smurf> theadmin ive already uninstalled the xubuntu-desktop part, but just not all the programs it installed
[16:38] <Emanon> just follow the directions if needed try the keytouch site they have manuals
[16:38] <eraggo> schiellerup: if your program is in your home dir you type: "wine /home/account/program.exe"
[16:39] <Emanon> schiellerup: remember the wine directory is hidden so dont forget the (dot)
[16:39] <makkura> I'm trying to add sharex11vnc to my startup (System > Preferences > Startup Applications).  I'm looking for a command line way to do this as I'm currently connected via ssh so can't use the gui. I suppose I could write a small script and drop it in under /etc/init.d/ and use update-rc.d but that's essentially just adding another middleman.
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> Oasa, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:39] <theadmin> Screamo_Smurf: Hm, the following might help a bit... "sudo apt-get remove thunar xfce*", but apart from this, no idea
[16:39] <underdev> sinistrad: nice!  works.  had some issues with chrome or thier servers at first, but its all good now
[16:40] <Emanon> /home/youruser/.wine/drive_c/andtherest
[16:40] <makkura> Alternative ideas are appreciated, otherwise i'll script it or wait until I have physical access to the system.
[16:40] <underdev> sinistrad: not as smooth as it could otherwise be, but it eventually worked :)
[16:41] <sinistrad> underdev, nice...didn't work for me for some reason. I grabbed dropbox and got it going there tho
[16:42] <CalmvsKhaos> is there a way to do restore points in Ubuntu? Besides using Back In Time, or Sbackup?
[16:42] <theadmin> CalmvsKhaos: Why don't you like those?
[16:42] <JuanMarquez> hi, i need the new ttf ubuntu
[16:43] <theadmin> Hm. Time to go to launchpad. I completely forgot about doing the translation stuff recently :D Not that i'm required but like to help... Sorry for offtopic.
[16:43] <CalmvsKhaos> theadmin, they're slow when restoring
[16:43] <ncfi1013> sinistrad: is this the correct path to the ipod database lock and how important is it? do i need to find a different path? if so where would i look?
[16:43] <ncfi1013> /home/ncfi1013/.gtkpod/backupDB_2
[16:43] <andre__> hello everybody.I'm having some problems with surfing on the web with karmic koala.the surfing just stop,when i begin to download something
[16:44] <andre__> what is the problem?
[16:44] <Screamo_Smurf> andre__ how fast is your internet connection?
[16:44] <JuanMarquez> hi, i need the new ttf ubuntu
[16:44] <ncfi1013> andre how much virtual memory do you have? that is usually the problem.
[16:45] <andre__> it's not fast 300kbps
[16:45] <andre__> but it works fine on windows
[16:45] <sinistrad> ncfi1013, I wouldn't know about that. I used gtkpod with no trouble. I believe in some cases, you have to unmount (but not remove) the device to get it to work.
[16:45] <Pantera> olaaaaaa
[16:45] <Benwa> Hi, how to remove a lvm?
[16:45] <Screamo_Smurf> andre__ are you downloading torrents?
[16:45] <andre__> and i get this problem only in karmic koala
[16:45] <Benwa> i use a live-cd
[16:45] <Pantera> silly
[16:45] <ncfi1013> at least 7mbps is needed for adequate performance andre
[16:45] <andre__> no
[16:45] <Pantera> stupyt
[16:46] <Emanon> Pantera be nice or leave, only options
[16:46] <Pantera> i love
[16:46] <andre__> wow man
[16:46] <ncfi1013> 2gb memory at least also andre
[16:46] <Pantera> i yio
[16:46] <Screamo_Smurf> ive only have 400kbps internet
[16:46] <underdev> sinistrad: i helped someone!!!
[16:46] <Pantera> fuy8tr8ty6r
[16:47] <Screamo_Smurf> and it works fine, unless im downloading torrents
[16:47] <Emanon> 50mb/s
[16:47] <Emanon> !leetspeak
[16:47] <Pantera> lo siento
[16:47] <Screamo_Smurf> man i really need more ram tho
[16:47] <Screamo_Smurf> =[
[16:47] <underdev> sinistrad: i'm usually the guy that iritates the entire channel with my problems :)
[16:47] <Screamo_Smurf> 370mb just doesnt cut it
[16:47] <sinistrad> underdev, excellent! I get excited when I'm able to help too
[16:48] <ncfi1013> im running karmic with 7 mbps and 2gb memory on an old nvidia 6100 graphics card and my system is fine
[16:48] <Emanon> my isp is going 100mb/s soon by cutting analog cable channels
[16:48] <Pantera> topotamadre
[16:48] <sinistrad> well, I'm finally gonna make good on my threat and get some sleep
[16:48] <ncfi1013> torent dls are very quick
[16:48] <Emanon> gnight sinistrad
[16:49] <andre__> well i think that there is a possibility to internet works fine on 300kbps
[16:49] <Screamo_Smurf> i just download 1.5gb in like 2 hours
[16:49] <Emanon> !es | Pantera
[16:49] <andre__> at least on windows i don't have any issues
[16:49] <sinistrad> Emanon, =)
[16:49] <Screamo_Smurf> andre__ what web browser are you using?
[16:49] <ncfi1013> windows is poison to any computer
[16:49] <Pantera> Hay alguno espanol
[16:50] <Emanon> lets not start that flame war ncfi1013 :-)
[16:50] <ncfi1013> sory just kidding
[16:50] <andre__> screamo i am using firefox
[16:50] <CalmvsKhaos> Pantera, dont be stubborn LOL go join #ubuntu-es :)
[16:50] <andre__> i also tried opera but the result was worst
[16:51] <ncfi1013> andre do u have adequate addons to protect u in firefox
[16:51] <andre__> what is adequate addons,give me examples
[16:52] <theadmin> andre__: Well, say, WOT
[16:52] <andre__> it can be mtu??
[16:52] <Stargaze> andre__, try chromium-browser
[16:53] <ncfi1013> ghostery, noscript, sxipper, adblockplus for example
[16:53] <Emanon> WOT is good so are adblock plus, cookiesafe, noscript
[16:53] <Screamo_Smurf> andre__ try Midori
[16:53] <Emanon> ahh beat me ncfi1013
[16:53] <etrev> @andre try google
[16:53] <Emanon> i like fasterfox
[16:53] <andre__> i also tried chrome,it was worst
[16:53] <makkura> andre__: I'd say Ad-Block Plus and no-script are pretty standard for firefox addons. I wouldn't think that would be the reason behind your issue though (unless they're meaning resource usage)
[16:53] <ncfi1013> thats what i have in my ff
[16:53] <Screamo_Smurf> midori is blazing fast
[16:53] <andre__> i tried google too :)
[16:54] <Stargaze> andre__, check http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=7
[16:54] <etrev> lol what makes Chrome the worse? I just felt like my Fox was getting sluggish
[16:54] <ncfi1013> tools tab>addons in firefox
[16:54] <Screamo_Smurf> andre__ sudo apt-get install midori
[16:54] <Screamo_Smurf> =/
[16:54] <metaperl_> If I am running Ubuntu karmic koala, is this dapper or jaunty?
[16:55] <etrev> Does Midori actually have any extensions?
[16:55] <Screamo_Smurf> metaperl_ its Karmic
[16:55] <Slart> metaperl_: karmic is karmic.. dapper is dapper.. jaunty is jaunty
[16:55] <Screamo_Smurf> etrev think so
[16:55] <Slart> !karmic > metaperl_
[16:55] <Emanon> heres some good firefox addons http://imagebin.ca/view/E_kevTq.html that i use
[16:55] <Slart> !dapper > metaperl_
[16:55] <Slart> !jaunty > metaperl_
[16:55] <etrev> Hm...I'm always willing to try out a new browser, but Chrome is my niche for now.
[16:55] <Trek> Slart, you abusing the bot?
[16:56] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[16:56] <makkura> metaperl_: Ubuntu versioning is currently alphabetical (j, k, l .. etc).  Karmic is the current release state until next month.
[16:56] <Screamo_Smurf> i wonder if you can order pizza with paypal......
[16:56] <Slart> Trek: might as well throw that one back at you.. do you think I'm abusing it?
[16:56] <Stargaze> etrev, i use it too, and i like it (chromium, which is more safe than chrome)
[16:56] <raj> DUDE i am sooo happppyyyy. i was able to bond 5 internet wireless connections. now i am getting 85 MBPS download speed and 28 MBS upload speed. my internet on my desktop is a BEAAAASSST. of course i used my neighbor permission.
[16:56] <Benwa> Does anybody know hos to remove a lvm from my hard drives?
[16:56] <Emanon> my addon list feels bare i usually have an obscene number
[16:56] <Trek> Slart: no, just thought I'd ask, since it seemed to not send messages for you there for a bit
[16:56] <Benwa> *how
[16:56] <makkura> metaperl_: If you're seeing references on how to's and such using older version they may still work but may not, according to the version.
[16:56] <Emanon> Benwa: just format over it
[16:57] <Screamo_Smurf> raj nice
[16:57] <Slart> Trek: it doesn't repeat messages to the channel with a certain time limit.. it didn't print out "bla bla, see my private message" for each of those
[16:57] <Emanon> a logical volume is just like any other partition as far as partition managers are concerned just remove it Benwa it will go away
[16:57] <Slart> Trek: note that I used > .. not |
[16:57] <Trek> ah, now I get it, Slart.  thanks for the info
[16:57] <Benwa> Emanon, well i tried
[16:57] <etrev> Stargaze, I haven't switch to Chromium in awhile, I might check it out later. I just like Google's take on everything, because it has everything already installed that I would put in it by default.
[16:57] <Benwa> ...
[16:58] <Slart> Trek: you're welcome
[16:58] <raj> Screamo_Smurf:  i use 4 usb network devices and 1 PCI card. and its super fast
[16:58] <Benwa> Emanon,  do i have to reboot?
[16:58] <JuanMarquez> i need the new font ubuntu, for mi slider impress, thsk
[16:58] <Emanon> your on a live disk Benwa?
[16:58] <makkura> Just to reiterate from abit ago: Anyone know how to add a command to start up via command line that's equivalent to: System > Preferences > Startup Applications  in the gui ?  Outside of making a script in /etc/init.d i don't know another way.
[16:58] <Slart> !boot | makkura
[16:58] <Stargaze> etrev, chromium = discreet chrome (privacy etc), with everything installed
[16:58] <Emanon> Benwa: open gparted navigate to the discs the logical volume is on and delete it from them
[16:58] <Benwa> Emanon, yes
[16:58] <Emanon> hit apply
[16:58] <Slart> makkura: or you can use .bashrc.. I think that will run when you login via console
[16:58] <Emanon> wait for it to delete them
[16:58] <Emanon> then its gone
[16:59] <Emanon> sorry for using enter as punctuation ;-)
[16:59] <etrev> Stargaze, yeah I know. I was just meaning that I hadn't switched over to that build here in awhile.
[16:59] <lamia> Hi, are there any admins available to talk?
[16:59] <Slart> lamia: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[16:59] <Emanon> then you can reboot if you like Benwa but it isnt really necessary
[16:59] <lamia> Thanks!
[17:00] <Emanon> wait is that you KatrinaTheLamia?
[17:00] <dbook82> Ubuntu is not recognizing my cd/dvd-rw drive, any ideas or help would be appreciated
[17:00] <yuexin> hi all
[17:00] <Emanon> !hi | yuexin
[17:00] <lamia> Emanon: No.
[17:00] <Emanon> oh ok...
[17:00] <Benwa> Emanon, ok, i try
[17:00] <Benwa> thanks
[17:01] <Emanon> no problem Benwa
[17:01] <Slart> dbook82: it doesn't show up at all? not in lshw?
[17:01] <makkura> Slart: Haven't edited a bash.rc file in forever. What i'm trying to add is sharex11vnc so something starting on console connection may not be appropriate for it (though it may be an amusing additional security. only allowing vnc connections after an ssh console connection)
[17:01] <dbook82> slart: what is lshw?
[17:01] <makkura> I'll look into that route abit.
[17:01] <Stargaze> lshw = list hardware
[17:01] <Slart> makkura: ah.. look at the !boot factoid from the bot then.. that should work for something like that
[17:01] <Emanon> dbook82: a command to list all hardware in a terminal
[17:02] <yuexin> so amazing...a new world for me
[17:02] <Slart> dbook82: lshw is a command to give you a huuuget list of all the hardware in the machine..
[17:02] <andre__> well i tried midori...i try to download something on it and then surf on firefox but it doesn't work and vice-versa
[17:02] <Slart> dbook82: you might have to install it .. I don't think it's installed by default.. but it's a small package
[17:02] <Emanon> well welcome to it yuexin
[17:02] <makkura> Slart: kk Thanks for the adivce. Sorry I wasn't specific that time around. I felt I overdid detail on the original message.
[17:02] <makkura> !boot
[17:02] <dbook82> wait one. looking in the lshw
[17:03] <Emanon> we dont have an OOBE wizard cause its geh but we have irc hehe yuexin
[17:03] <Emanon> like "come to the dark side, we have cookies"
[17:03] <andre__> fasterfox doesn't have a version for my firefox version
[17:03] <Oasa> Please some 1 help me in fixing grub
[17:03] <Emanon> try extra-fasterfox
[17:03] <Emanon> !grub | Oasa
[17:04] <Slart> makkura: you're welcome.. make sure you think about the whole.. "starting X programs from a terminal" issue.. considering the DISPLAY enviroment variables and all that.. I'm not entirely sure what sharex11vnc is so it might not be needed
[17:04] <dbook82> slart: it shows up in the list on the terminal
[17:04] <makkura> oops.. found i can call the bot's controls in whispers so i'll refrain from spamming it into chat further
[17:04] <Emanon> hehe makkura it took me a while too
[17:04] <Emanon> no worries
[17:05] <Emanon> and i still dont most of the time
[17:05] <Slart> dbook82: if you want a list that is a bit easier to browse you can make it output html.. and then pipe it to a file and open that file in firefox.. something like   lshw --use-html > hardware.html       and then    firefox hardware.html
[17:05] <andre__> i will try
[17:05] <Slart> dbook82: I'm not sure about the switch to make it output html though.. you'll ahve to look that up yourself..
[17:05] <Slart> dbook82: I just used --use-html  as an example.. that's probably not correct
[17:05] <dbook82> slart: the drive shows up in the list
[17:06] <Oasa> Emanon : Everything was fine. Till i installed WIndows 7 that rewrote the MBR i followed the instructions from ubuntu which included finding my stage1 which gave me hd0,0 so i wrote root hd0,0 and setup (hd0) it said everything is fine but it did not work
[17:06] <makkura> Slart: sharex11vnc is part of x11vnc (obviously) essentially being a more bandwith friendly remote connection than Remote Desktop.  Supposed to add sharex11vnc to the session startup on login. So, yeah, I'll have to look into what it'll do if i start it this way.
[17:06] <Oasa> Emanon : I am using GRUB (not 2) (ubuntu hardy)
[17:06] <Slart> dbook82: ah.. good.. so that means that ubuntu sees it.. it doesn't matter what cd's you insert? nothing shows up in nautilus ?
[17:06] <Emanon> bummer Oasa you can use a live disc to recover your data to removable media
[17:07] <Slart> makkura: ah.. I've used x11vnc.. but I've never seen sharex11vnc..
[17:07] <Emanon> then reinstall starting with windows this time
[17:07] <dbook82> 11slart: no, nothing shows up in nautilus. i've put in music cds, data cds and the dvd i used to install ubuntu
[17:07] <Emanon> as it is a pain to fix grub if you're not accustomed to it
[17:07] <Oasa> Emanon : Thats not fair Ubuntu is still there I just want to boot >
[17:07] <Emanon> and im not either hehe
[17:07] <Oasa> Emanon : please...
[17:07] <Stargaze> andre__, try the Epiphany browser
[17:08] <Emanon> i dont know how someone else might but i find it is easier just to install windows first
[17:08] <Oasa> Emanon : i dont like to start ubuntu all over again i dont even remember what all repos i installed. I was just waiting for the next LTS (LUCID) so that i can directly upgrade
[17:08] <Slart> dbook82: here's one thing you can try... open a terminal and run this "tail -f /var/log/syslog".. it will print out some lines from the system log.. if new lines are added those are printed out as well.. now.. insert a cd and watch that terminal window.. see if any error messages popup or anything that looks like it is related to the cd drive
[17:09] <Slart> dbook82: when you're finished you can exit the tail-command by pressing CTRL+C
[17:09] <dbook82> slart: ok wait one
[17:09] <Emanon> you can back up your repos to Oasa
[17:09] <Oasa> Can some one please help me with grub. Okay let me try this again.
[17:09] <arzonista> hi,pls help me on how to connect my IM.pidgin &kopete are not responding.
[17:09] <makkura> Slart: Was running off of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565  Though it doesn't cover tunneling vnc through ssh, I still need some kind of vnc to start with so thought i'd try x11vnc.
[17:09] <Emanon> Oasa: copy /etc/apt/sources.list along with your home directory
[17:09] <rocio> hola
[17:09] <Stargaze> !es| rocio
[17:10] <andre__> it isn't mtu value??
[17:10] <Slart> makkura: ahh.. so sharex11vnc is just a script to start x11vnc.. now I understand.. well.. good luck with it
[17:10] <Emanon> then when you reinstall sudo move it back to /etc/apt/ and it should replicate all your old repos
[17:10] <rocio> hola
[17:10] <CalmvsKhaos> x11vnc is nice
[17:10] <CalmvsKhaos> !es | rocio
[17:10] <Losha> makkura: this any use? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565&page=5
[17:11] <rocio> hola
[17:11] <dbook82> slart: put a music cd in, it spun for a few seconds and stopped. nothing new popped up in the terminal
[17:11] <lihuashan> spojdf
[17:11] <Maletor> How do I look at passwords I have in my keychain from the terminal?
[17:11] <rocio> valen lo  a y que decir en engles
[17:11] <Emanon> rocio: stop being a retard and go to the spanish channel
[17:11] <Slart> dbook82: hrmpf.. so much for that idea
[17:11] <madjoe> Can I freely clean my Grub2 like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=244665
[17:11] <Myrtti> !es | rocio
[17:11] <CalmvsKhaos> rocio, type /join #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <dbook82> slart: i know this is round three in the channel trying to figure out why its not runnong
[17:11] <Slart> rocio: this channel is english only..   type   /join #ubuntu-es to chat in spanish
[17:12] <Losha> What is it with hispanohablantes ignoring ubottu messages in their own language today?
[17:12] <CalmvsKhaos> dont be stubborn, just go to that channel lol you guys are stubborn
[17:12] <Yggdrasil> hi, i had a dual boot system windows on part 1 and ubuntu on the second setup, i blew away my windows and formated it ext3 and i want to mount it. whats the best way?
[17:12] <thevishy> guys , i have connected the laptop to an extnl monitor
[17:12] <andre__> well,my mtu value is 1400...i wonder if it is the right value
[17:12] <CalmvsKhaos> Losha, i have a feeling its the SAME person
[17:12] <thevishy> i want to power off the LCD alone
[17:12] <lanzelloth> hi, how do I "decouple" my swap partition, i.e. I don't want to use it anymore, going to do an archlinux test-install on it actually
[17:12] <CalmvsKhaos> all week long they have been refusing to join #ubuntu-es
[17:12] <Emanon> so ban his whole effin subnet
[17:12] <makkura> Losha: That well might. Thanks for the resource.
[17:12] <Sylphid> lanzelloth, swapoff
[17:12] <Slart> dbook82: well.. I don't really know what else to try... haven't done troubleshooting on a cd/dvd before.. they usually just work
[17:13] <Emanon> lanzelloth: swapoff
[17:13] <york105> to view all partitions use > sudo fdisk -l
[17:13] <Losha> CalmvsKhaos: right...
[17:13] <lanzelloth> Sylphid, Emanon, and that will permanently frees the partition?
[17:13] <york105> and then > sudo mount <wht ever path>
[17:13] <thevishy> sorry i got dc
[17:13] <Sylphid> lanzelloth, no only until reboot
[17:13] <Stargaze> andre__, if MTU is higher than 1492, your connection can become unstable -- 1492 = 1500-2³
[17:13] <john> Alguien habla español?
[17:13] <dbook82> slart: now on that lshw list under the cd rom it listed 6 logical names? anything abt that?
[17:13] <thevishy> how to do i power off lcd monitor when i have external monitor connected on a laprop
[17:14] <lanzelloth> Sylphid, how do I do it permanently then?
[17:14] <Sylphid> lanzelloth, if you want it permanent you must remove it from /etc/fstab
[17:14] <CalmvsKhaos> Anyone know how to speed up Synergy in Ubuntu? There's always a delay by about 5 secs when i start to type anything or move mouse
[17:14] <lanzelloth> Sylphid, ok
[17:14] <Myrtti> forthe record, a  regional government in spain donated free laptops to some schoolkids, that have a special spinoff of Ubuntu in them, with the IRC client connecting to freenode and joining #ubuntu by default. The makers of the respin have been notified, but while waiting for a permanent solution you just have to endure these kids and their spanish.
[17:14] <Emanon> lanzelloth: it will turn swap off on your swap and make it available for format you need to remove it from fstab too to make it stop trying to use it
[17:14] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. what names does it use?
[17:14] <mre1f> hey guys
[17:14] <Myrtti> !es | john
[17:14] <andre__> tem algum brasileiro aí??
[17:14] <lanzelloth> Emanon, ok, thx
[17:14] <andre__> escondido??
[17:14] <york105> lol, now i know
[17:14] <EagleScreen> thevishy: disconnect cable and run "xrandr --auto"
[17:14] <Emanon> they should just ban non english speaking countries ip's from the english channel
[17:15] <Losha> !br | andre__
[17:15] <johnconnor> alguien es español?
[17:15] <Trek> Emanon: not easy at all
[17:15] <Slart> !es
[17:15] <Myrtti> johnconnor: no
[17:15] <Emanon> and the same for non spanish speaking ips from spanish channels and whatnot
[17:15] <EagleScreen> yo soy español
[17:15] <Trek> !es | johnconnor
[17:15] <york105> wish i could speak spanish
[17:15] <Slart> !br
[17:15] <Benwa> what a waste of time...
[17:15] <xlberz> yes
[17:15] <dbook82> slart: there's 6 of them. /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, /dev/dvd, /dev/dvdrw, /dev/scd0 and /dev/sr0
[17:15]  * Stargaze speaks a bit spanish
[17:15] <Emanon> Trek: not so we already ban tor so barring some other proxie we can tell where its coming from
[17:15] <Losha> york105: doesn't seem to help...
[17:15] <andre__> can someone speak portuguese?
[17:15] <Emanon> since certain countries have certain ip ranges
[17:16] <Emanon> !pt
[17:16] <Trek> Emanon: true, but some IPs cross-connect to non-country IPs.
[17:16] <Myrtti> Emanon: so you want everyone that doesn't come from UK or US to be banned too?
[17:16]  * xlberz thinks
[17:16] <johnconnor> :-<
[17:16] <Myrtti> Emanon: I'll just get me coat
[17:16] <Slart> dbook82: ah.. that actually makes sense.. I think /dev/sr0 is the original device.. the others are just symlinks.. ie aliases..
[17:16] <Trek> lol, Myrtti, my thouhgs exactly
[17:16] <Sylphid> Emanon, bad idea, what if someone travels outside the country
[17:16] <Emanon> no just any country that doesnt have english as one of its primary languages
[17:16] <Emanon> plenty of countries are generally multilingual
[17:16] <dbook82> slart: ok where do i go from this?
[17:16] <Slart> dbook82: apparently someone thinks that remembering /dev/dvd is easier than remembering /dev/sr0 =)
[17:16] <Myrtti> Emanon: eh, no.
[17:16] <schiellerup> some1, there got the command for Flash Player? i have tried to install over the package Manager, but it dosent work
[17:16] <Myrtti> anyway
[17:16] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[17:17] <lanzelloth> if I need to make a bash script which contains commands that need sudo, do I put the commands with sudo inside the script; or without it but run the script with sudo?
[17:17] <Emanon> yes lanzelloth
[17:17] <CalmvsKhaos> Anyone know how to speed up Synergy in Ubuntu? There's always a delay by about 5 secs when i start to type anything or move mouse
[17:17] <dbook82> slart: hmm so /dev/dvd is the one i should use?
[17:17] <Slart> dbook82: what happens if you open nautilus (the file explorer thingy) and go to /media/cdrom/ ?
[17:17] <lanzelloth> Emanon, ok, so I'll put sudo in the script
[17:17] <Emanon> it will ask for password when you run it but you dont need to sudo the script itself
[17:17] <Slart> dbook82: it shouldn't matter which one you use.. they should all work
[17:17] <Stargaze> CalmvsKhaos, what's Synergy?
[17:17] <Sylphid> Emanon, now if #ubuntu was a redirect channel that redirects to the "assumed" appropriate channel based on ip and english was moved to #ubuntu-en that would be cool
[17:18] <CalmvsKhaos> !info synergy
[17:18] <Stargaze> nice
[17:18] <Emanon> yea that would Sylphid just a little more complicated but less problematic i agree
[17:18] <Slart> dbook82: hmm..got another idea.. was this cdrom drive attached when you installed ubuntu?
[17:18] <york105> @schiellerup this should install flash
[17:18] <york105> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:18] <dbook82> slart: i don't have a /media folder
[17:18] <Slart> dbook82: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:18] <dbook82> slart: yes i used the drive to install ubuntu
[17:18] <dbook82> slart: 9.10
[17:18] <LittleQNCCU> hey
[17:18] <Emanon> !hi | LittleQNCCU
[17:19] <Slart> dbook82: the regular desktop version?
[17:19] <LittleQNCCU> where can i buy the ubuntu t-shirt?
[17:19] <Emanon> !store
[17:19] <LittleQNCCU> i mean ... online store
[17:19] <dbook82> slart: as far as i know? how do i tell? also i'm on a laptop
[17:19] <schiellerup> ty
[17:19] <LittleQNCCU> i'm live in taiwan
[17:19] <Slart> dbook82: I've got to get some dinner in me before I drop.. I'll be back in an hour or so
[17:19] <york105> yeah the shop.canonical.com link takes you where you can buy merchandise
[17:19] <schiellerup> is there a place, where i can find all the commands for those things?
[17:19] <Emanon> !cn | LittleQNCCU
[17:19] <LittleQNCCU> okay thanks
[17:19] <Stargaze> LittleQNCCU, almost every country has its own LoCo team
[17:19] <Emanon> :-)
[17:20] <dbook82> slart: ok, i should still be here =)
[17:20] <LittleQNCCU> really?
[17:20] <york105> what commands are you wanting to know code for?
[17:20] <LittleQNCCU> i'll check
[17:20] <LittleQNCCU> thank you everyone~
[17:20] <Emanon> np LittleQNCCU have a nice day
[17:20] <schiellerup> nothing, it was just if i needed 1 of the command, i just could go etc on the website and find it, instead of asking in here
[17:20] <LittleQNCCU> you too
[17:20] <dbook82> is there an ubuntu version specificall for laptop/desktop?
[17:20] <Emanon> thanks
[17:21] <Emanon> !UNR | dbook82
[17:21] <Stargaze> !unr| dbook82
[17:21] <Emanon> beat ya Stargaze
[17:21] <york105> you could always google for it, i mean there's always some forum/blog that has (hopefully) covered the command you want
[17:21] <rocio> hello
[17:21] <CalmvsKhaos> !google
[17:22] <dbook82> ubottu: does it recognize a difference between a netbook or laptop?
[17:22] <rocio> hello what you name
[17:22] <Emanon> nice one CalmvsKhaos
[17:22] <CalmvsKhaos> ;)
[17:22] <york105> okeydok, sure thing
[17:22] <york105> sorry
[17:22] <dbook82> does it recognize a difference between a netbook or laptop?
[17:22] <rocio> sorry the
[17:22] <Emanon> dbook82: it runs on desktops just fine
[17:22] <Losha> I hate the above google message. We should be encouraging users to improve their google-fu, not use us a google proxies, which will never scale...
[17:22] <Emanon> but made for netbooks
[17:22] <rocio> beutiful
[17:22] <meanburrito920_> does anyone know an easy way to check the size of a folder from the command line?
[17:23] <rocio> hola junio
[17:23] <ikonia> meanburrito920_: du -k $dir
[17:23] <ikonia> meanburrito920_: or du -h $dir
[17:23] <york105> what's google-fu?
[17:23] <dbook82> emanon: a netbook is the small ones without a cd-rom drive right?
[17:23] <Emanon> rocio this isn't tango personals go to #ubuntu-offtopic or the spanish channel
[17:23] <Emanon> yes dbook82
[17:23] <Sylphid> Losha, should change it to a lmgtfy.com link
[17:23] <york105> i don't get the "fu" bit
[17:23] <Losha> york105: from kung-fu, the ability to use google well, google-fu
[17:23] <rocio> spanish o englis
[17:23] <ikonia> !es | rocio
[17:23] <Myrtti> rocio: english.
[17:23] <rocio> hello hello
[17:24] <Myrtti> !offtopic | rocio
[17:24] <york105> ahh, alright, thought i was being daft, thanks
[17:24] <schiellerup> i have a Nvidia grafic card, so how to i upgrade it ? i can't do it on the website, since Ubuntu dosent support on Nvidia
[17:24] <Emanon> unr usually gets installed from a usb or memory card
[17:24] <dbook82> emanon: ok thats what i thought, i have a notebook, regular ubuntu is running fine, aside from not being able to use my cd/dvd-rw drive
[17:24] <Vi0L0> hi, i have found info that with 10.04 hal package will be fully removed... does that mean that xorg-server 1.7 will use libudev instead of hal?
[17:24] <rocio> hola me llamo rocio
[17:24] <Emanon> yea dbook82 unr is REALLY nice for netbooks (and my mom)
[17:24] <CalmvsKhaos> id rather someone tell me to "go google it" then tell me to 'man chmod', IMHO if you're telling someone to 'man something' you should just go help out in #centos or something. sorry for being !ot
[17:24] <rocio> y tu
[17:24] <EagleScreen> yes Vi0L0
[17:24] <rocio> como te llama
[17:24] <Emanon> !leave | rocio
[17:25] <Emanon> !gtfo | rocio
[17:25] <ikonia> Emanon: stop that now
[17:25] <Benwa> thanks ikonia
[17:25] <EagleScreen> rocio: este canal de chat no es para hacer amigos
[17:25] <ikonia> Emanon: if you can't talk to people politley or aithout that sort of attitude - don't speak
[17:25] <dbook82> emanon: lol, cool. GRR!!! this is frustrating
[17:25] <Vi0L0> EagleScreen: hmm... ok, thanks
[17:25] <Emanon> it is a legitimate command look at ubottu's response
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> Vi0L0, it's not as "removed" as they make it seem...  it's still required for KDE, and seems to still be installed on Gnome as well (#ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion though)
[17:26] <ikonia> Emanon: he didn't use bad language - and that's not why you gave him, don't lie
[17:26] <arriesp> hi
[17:26] <Emanon> no i just wanted him to leave
[17:26] <Emanon> !hi | arriesp
[17:26] <arriesp> is there any command to unrar with more than one thread?
[17:26] <ikonia> Emanon: yes, so a.) don't tell people to leave, b.) don't use that sort of language at people
[17:27] <madjoe> can I completely remove older kernel versions of my Karmic?
[17:27] <Losha> Emanon: bear in mind these are probably schoolchildren, here through no fault of their own, and try and set a good example...
[17:27] <AndyGraybeal> is there an ubuntu netbook channel?
[17:27] <Vi0L0> ZykoticK9: ok, well actually i just wanted to know about hal on xorg-server
[17:27] <knoxy> hi all.. I've a problema with a shared printer in windows XP... I've added this printer in my ubuntu desktop.. Using PDF Viewer or openoffice, The ubuntu can use the printer... but, when I try to use this printer from firefox.. it not works.. no errors...
[17:27] <Emanon> and we sent them commands in their own language
[17:27] <ikonia> madjoe: sure can
[17:27] <york105> don't think so, there's no single command that will force use of multiple threads, however you can write your own script which employs multithreading
[17:27] <ikonia> Emanon: you can always join #ubuntu-ops and ask for help
[17:27] <Emanon> if they would have obeyed i wouldnt be rude but they are just being ornery now
[17:27] <Gangrel> how do i remove Namoroka and how do i install Firefox 3.6
[17:28] <metaperl[A]> isnt firefox known as "Iceweasel" in Linux?
[17:28] <york105> Namoroka is infact Dev built of Firefox
[17:28] <makkura> Losha, Slart: Turns out I don't need to auto start x11vnc since I wanted to SSH tunnel through.  Losha, the link you sent me direct me around to the solution I needed so thanks again. Slart, thanks again too.
[17:28] <dbook82> i'm stepping out for few.... Be back later
[17:28] <Losha> Emanon: ...schoolchildren... Some with better manners than you, apparently...
[17:28] <york105> you can go back to production version of FF by removing the dev ppa from your sources list
[17:28] <eremite> Namoroka is FireFox without the branding, as far as I know.
[17:28] <Emanon> namoroka is the dev build not the unbranded one
[17:28] <Emanon> like vista was longhorn
[17:28] <york105> aye, it is, we had shiretoko and then namoroka which are dev builds
[17:29] <Emanon> namoroka their development codename
[17:29] <york105> aye, agree
[17:29] <madjoe> ikonia: tell me how can I do that.. I'm in Synaptic now and already marked all older versions of: linux-headers-<old_version>, linux-headers-<old_version>-generic, and linux-image-<old_versions>-generic
[17:29] <ikonia> madjoe: ok - click "remove"
[17:29] <CalmvsKhaos> Emanon, they are stubborn, but just let the ops handle it the ops have been banning them, im on your side though, but arguing with ikonia (which is a op here) is just playing with fire :)
[17:29] <eremite> I do not notice a difference between the two browsers regarding use.  FireFox and Namoroka are essentially the same for the regular end-user
[17:30] <Emanon> yea but i like to keep the stable ff releases so i can open it with gnome-do without altering my command
[17:30] <Emanon> super+space f enter
[17:30] <dorgan> how do I find out what version of glibc i have installed?
[17:30] <Pici> !who
[17:30] <rychy> hola todos es la promera vez en xunbuntu
[17:31] <Losha> They're *schoolkids*. I can just imagine the conversation: "Hey, if you go here and type this, some crazy gringo shouts at you. It's so cool!"
[17:31] <Emanon> !es | rychy
[17:31] <york105> for installing the latest version of Firefox 3.6, first get rid of namoroka and then on the terminal  add ppa >sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:31] <Rovanion> Lads, I have an other session of my account logged in on vt7 and I want to log it out. I,m in KDE 3.5
[17:31] <york105> then update > sudo aptitude update
[17:31] <york105> and then > sudo aptitude install firefox-3.6
[17:31] <madjoe> ikonia: it's ok, I didn't kill my Ubuntu yet... :)
[17:31] <LittleQNCCU> wow
[17:32] <LittleQNCCU> kubuntu pack sucks~!!!!
[17:32] <BrixSat> hello
[17:32] <ikonia> madjoe: you'll be fine, as long as you don't remove all or your current kernel
[17:32] <york105> kinda straightforward
[17:32] <ikonia> LittleQNCCU: sorry ?
[17:32] <LittleQNCCU> kubuntu~~~
[17:32] <BrixSat> how do i autoconfigure grub menu so it detects my windows 7?
[17:32] <Rovanion> I want to log out another KDE 3.5 session. How do I do it?
[17:32] <LittleQNCCU> enthusiast pack
[17:32] <ikonia> LittleQNCCU: what are you talking about ?
[17:32] <LittleQNCCU> on
[17:32] <meanburrito920_> does anyone know the name of the "preferred applications" program in aptitude? I can't seem to find it
[17:32] <madjoe> ikonia: I was sweating all over to concentrate not to do it :)
[17:32] <LittleQNCCU> the store
[17:32] <Emanon> so does swiftfox actually improve anything?
[17:32] <ikonia> LittleQNCCU: don't buy it then
[17:33] <LittleQNCCU> why?
[17:33] <madjoe> ikonia: my first kernel remove :) I'm not a virgin anymore
[17:33] <Emanon> gratz madjoe
[17:33] <madjoe> lol Emanon ;)
[17:33] <surgy> hello im using unr on an acer aspire one. my microphone sounds real crunchy and doesnt pick up enough sound to hear. I followed the guide on the unr wiki to install the alsa driver 1.0.20 and it helped a little i guess, can someone help me fix my mic please?
[17:33] <york105> to add windows 7 and any other operating systems just update the grub list using the command > update-grub
[17:33] <york105> you'll have to be root
[17:33] <dorgan> how do I find out what version of glibc i have installed?
[17:34] <Emanon> surgy: try adjusting the input volume
[17:34] <Sylphid> dorgan, apt-cache show glibc
[17:34] <BrixSat> is there any way to autoconfigure grub so it detects my windows partition?
[17:34] <surgy> Emanon: its maxed out on the icon on the taskbar and its maxed in alsamixer
[17:35] <Emanon> so turn it down just a little
[17:35] <ikonia> dorgan: the package is libc in ubuntu
[17:35] <york105> brixsat you'll have t update the grub menu using update-grub command
[17:35] <Emanon> having it topped out on both can often ruin quality
[17:35] <carlosgaldino> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Internet connection. Sometimes the browser shows the message 'Resolving Host' and I can't visit any page or do any other task related with the connection but I checked the connection in other computers in the same network and the connection is perfect there. The problem just occurs in my computer. Any idea about what it can be?
[17:35] <knoxy> hi all.. I've a problema with a shared printer in windows XP... I've added this printer in my ubuntu desktop.. Using PDF Viewer or openoffice, The ubuntu can use the printer... but, when I try to use this printer from firefox.. it not works.. no errors... How can I do to fix it??
[17:35] <york105> that's assuming you have grub2
[17:35] <BrixSat> york105,  only that ? cause iv done that and nothing, how do i see if i have grub 2?
[17:36] <shane_> whats up all?
[17:36] <McCorkis> hey guys
[17:36] <Emanon> BrixSat: what version of ubuntu are you using
[17:36] <BrixSat> Emanon,  9,10
[17:36] <McCorkis> im a noob here looking for ubuntu resolution help
[17:36] <Emanon> !hi | shane_ McCorkis
[17:36] <shane_> hey does anyone no how to change permissons for a msdos partioned usb drive???
[17:36] <york105> brixsat the version of grub is displayed when you boot your pc and list of os is displayed
[17:36] <gardar> McCorkis, what graphics card do you have?
[17:36] <Emanon> BrixSat: you're using grub2 unless you changed it manually
[17:36] <McCorkis> intel 945g on a laptop
[17:36] <shane_> Emanon you know how I can copy files to a msdos based usb stick?
[17:36] <york105> if its beta, its grub2, if its <1 then its grub 1
[17:37] <a> hello
[17:37] <Emanon> change the permissions of the destination or sudo the copy shane_
[17:37] <Rovanion> How do I log off a user in KDE 3.5?
[17:37] <BrixSat> york105,  Emanon,  no i did not change, and grub --version outputs grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[17:37] <shane_> Emanon tried it dont work
[17:37] <CalmvsKhaos> EagleScreen, are you here?
[17:37] <EagleScreen> yes i am
[17:37] <york105> grub1
[17:37] <surgy> Emanon: its not ruined quality its not loud enough to hear
[17:37] <york105> you'll have to manually edit the list file
[17:37] <Losha> !hi | a
[17:38] <BrixSat> york105,  cant i install grub2?
[17:38] <xiven> Who knows Evolution?
[17:38] <gardar> McCorkis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[17:38] <Emanon> then im out of ideas on the mic surgy sorry
[17:38] <CalmvsKhaos> Ok can Firefox beta work without all my plugins messing up on Ubuntu 9.10?
[17:38] <Losha> BrixSat: did you upgrade from an earlier release?
[17:38] <Emanon> others probably know something i don't
[17:38] <Emanon> nope CalmvsKhaos
[17:38] <McCorkis> gardar i tried everything im just looking for 1440
[17:38] <xiven> I need to tell Evolution to NOT download all 600 messages from a pop server...?
[17:38] <BrixSat> losha no, just installed a fresh 9.10 and done an update yesterday
[17:38] <Emanon> shane_:  did you change the destination permissions or sudo?
[17:39] <LittleQNCCU> @ikonia ohoh, i got it
[17:39] <CalmvsKhaos> !!! so its back to Opera again for me
[17:39] <gardar> McCorkis, did you even try to add the resolution manually?
[17:39] <McCorkis> yup
[17:39] <Losha> BrixSat: does the file /boot/grub/menu.lst exist on your system?
[17:39] <york105> calmvskhaos that depends on what plugins you talking about, not all plugins are compatible with dev versions of FF
[17:39] <LittleQNCCU> @ikonia i want to type someword like "amazing", but i type 'suck'
[17:40] <dbook82> ok i'm back... did i miss anything?
[17:40] <LittleQNCCU> sorry about that...
[17:40] <BrixSat> Losha,  iv done apt-get install grub2 and it replaced the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:40] <BrixSat> :D it should work now
[17:40] <Emanon> welcome back dbook82
[17:40] <dbook82> emanon: thank you... did i miss anything?
[17:40] <CalmvsKhaos> i wanted the image wall thing for firefox
[17:40] <BrixSat> thanks to all :D :D :D
[17:40] <Emanon> more spanish kids and me fighting with the op not much else
[17:40] <lanzelloth> is there a way for cp to make all the necessary directories for the target?
[17:41] <Emanon> yes lanzelloth i just forgot what it is
[17:41] <Emanon> try "man cp"
[17:41] <lanzelloth> right
[17:41] <Emanon> that should bring up raygold
[17:41] <porta> I believe its cp -a
[17:42] <carlosgaldino> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Internet connection. Sometimes the browser shows the message 'Resolving Host' and I can't visit any page or do any other task related with the connection but I checked the connection in other computers in the same network and the connection is perfect there. The problem just occurs in my computer. Any idea about what it can be?
[17:42] <Emanon> !repeat
[17:42] <lanzelloth> porta, it doesn't seem to work
[17:42] <dbook82> emanon: lol i see... so i looked in /dev folder and found files that are blocked? or says no application installed for blocked device?
[17:43] <Emanon> probably means there isnt a device associated with that /dev/ entry dbook82
[17:43] <york105> carlosgaldino, try debugging , on terminal issue > ifconfig to view how you connect to the internet, just try a quick fix > sudo dhclient which should refresh your
[17:43] <york105> connection
[17:43] <Emanon> they stay present in there even if not in use
[17:43] <porta> lanzelloth: I copied complete harddisk that way.
[17:44] <dbook82> emanon: any idea how i can get it to associate with the cd/dvd drive?
[17:44] <Vigo> Does the Software Center Add/Remove work like Synaptic or Purge and does it leave 'scraps' or lines of code behind?
[17:44] <Emanon> not a clue
[17:44] <psycho_oreos> carlosgaldino, there's lots of various factors that could lead to that. I'd check if there's routing issues first, then latency issues
[17:44] <giwrgos> who believe in ghosts:P
[17:44] <ikonia> giwrgos: that's offtopic here
[17:44] <psycho_oreos> !ot | giwrgos
[17:44] <Emanon> giwrgos: songbird has a plugin to deal with ghosts
[17:44] <ikonia> Vigo: it should work the same as synaptic
[17:44] <dbook82> gah! so close yet so far
[17:44] <york105> Vigo, the software centre does not leave traces, it uses the same underlying command as synaptic, both are infact just GUI for apt-get install and apt-get remove
[17:44] <porta> lanzelloth: I did cp -a * ../test and it recreated everything including dirs from the source directory
[17:44] <Emanon> it will locate ghosts and duplicate tracks and remove them
[17:44] <Vigo> ikonia: Thank you, operative word is should?
[17:45] <giwrgos> tosay saw...:P
[17:45] <giwrgos> xixixixixixixi
[17:45] <surgy> i fixed it
[17:45] <giwrgos> liar
[17:45] <giwrgos> ...
[17:45] <ikonia> Vigo: well, if it's not easy to report a bug, but it should do
[17:45] <Emanon> out troll
[17:45] <lanzelloth> porta, hmm
[17:45] <ikonia> Emanon: what did I tell you earlier - and YOU fed him by talking about ghosts more, this is your last warning
[17:45] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:46] <Vigo> york185: Thank you, ikonia: Yes, it did leave some scraps behind, just random code, not a Security issue or such.
[17:46] <giammy> ragazzi
[17:46] <giammy> komè ke nn riesco a trovare i plugin x l audio su xubuntu??
[17:46] <giammy> help!
[17:46] <Myrtti> !it | giammy
[17:47] <Emanon> good spot i couldnt place that lang Myrtti
[17:47] <ikonia> Vigo: what did it leave ?
[17:47] <Emanon> my italian sucks
[17:47] <Myrtti> Emanon: "ragazzi" is a dead giveaway
[17:47] <Emanon> ok
[17:47] <Emanon> i might even remember that
[17:47] <Vigo> ikonia: Some Xorg server stuff for an improper nvidea driver install.
[17:47] <Brazucka> hi there!
[17:48]  * dbook82 pulls up a chair and sits
[17:48] <Emanon> !hi | Brazucka
[17:48] <giammy> ciaooo
[17:48] <ikonia> Vigo: dod you install the driver, or did the software centre ?
[17:48] <psusi> Some_Person: I noticed that... after your hfs partition there's some free space
[17:48] <giammy> cè qualkuno?
[17:48] <Brazucka> Is it possible to use the file manager as a superuser or something like that?
[17:48] <giammy> ou
[17:48] <ikonia> giammy: English please
[17:48] <ikonia> !it | giammy
[17:48] <york105> ikonia, answering vigo's question, do you not think it should not in theory leave anything behind?
[17:48] <Emanon> yes Brazucka but a VERY bad idea
[17:48] <jwdavidjw> hi
[17:48] <giammy> NON TROVO IL SERVER PER L ITALIANO HELP :(
[17:49] <giammy> #ubuntu-it
[17:49] <ikonia> york105: depends, that's why I was asking for more info
[17:49] <Haffe> !ubuntu_it | giammy
[17:49] <ikonia> giammy: questa scanalatura è per l'inglese soltanto
[17:49] <Vigo> ikonia: I allowed my Nephew to install, so I guess I did. After looking at logs and such, found like 14 lines of code in the kernel that did not belong anymore.
[17:49] <Brazucka> Emanon: I am trying to install some ttf fonts to use on Inkscape, but I am having some issues. It seems that putting them inside the usr/share/fonts/truetype folder is not working,.
[17:50] <ramous> ramous
[17:50] <ikonia> Vigo: lines of code in the kernel ????
[17:50] <Emanon> if you must Brazucka issue gksu nautilus /path/to/target but be very careful as it WILL NOT stop you from screwing ANYTHING up
[17:50] <york105> you could always try home/.fonts
[17:50] <Vigo> ikonia: In the Xorg.conf section, so maybe kernel was wrong wording.
[17:51] <york105> brazucka, try copying the fonts in ~home/.fonts/
[17:51] <Brazucka> york105: I tried that, but the news fonts are not displayed on Inkscape.
[17:51] <taka> hey
[17:51] <ikonia> Vigo: ahhh the xorg.conf
[17:51] <Emanon> !hi | taka
[17:51] <taka> what poland?
[17:51] <Brazucka> Only after I opened with fontviewer and clicked on install font, I was able to install one. :(
[17:51] <Brazucka> Any tip?
[17:51] <Aminux> ghello
[17:51] <Pici> !pl | taka
[17:52] <Emanon> !hi | Aminux
[17:52] <taka> hello
[17:52] <taka> hi
[17:52] <york105> aye, I use font manager to view fonts
[17:52] <Emanon> thanks Pici i didnt know if poland was pl or po hehe
[17:52] <Aminux> :-)
[17:52] <york105> aye, poland is pl
[17:52] <Vigo> ikonia: Yes, I am just returning to Ubuntu after as long sail and a side line on a BSD derivative, is all fun.
[17:52] <Emanon> learn soemthing new every day i guess
[17:52] <Brazucka> york105: Is it possible to install them with this app?
[17:52] <taka> aye pl?
[17:52] <Brazucka> york105: I am using gnome.
[17:53] <york105> aye = yes
[17:53] <taka> aaa
[17:53] <Emanon> !pl > taka
[17:53] <york105> brazucka yes
[17:53] <taka> whats your name?
[17:53] <york105> the font manager can install fonts
[17:53] <psycho_oreos> !ot > taka
[17:53] <ikonia> taka: this channel is for ubuntu support only, check it with /topic - please follow that guide
[17:54] <taka> what ikonia?
[17:54] <ikonia> taka: check the channels topic with "/topic"
[17:54] <taka> suprisse
[17:54] <york105> brazucka, have a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/font-manager-a-font-management-application-for-the-gnome-desktop.html
[17:54] <schiellerup> how do i upgraded my grafik card?
[17:55] <york105> its in the ppas so you can also try aptitude install font-manager
[17:55] <ikonia> schiellerup: do you mean the hardware or the software ?
[17:55] <carlosgaldino> psycho_oreos, How can I check router issues or latency? I don't know how to do this.
[17:55] <Brazucka> york105: Thanks a lot bud. I will check it out, right now.
[17:55] <schiellerup> Nvidia grafik card
[17:55] <ikonia> schiellerup: do you want to change the hardware or the software ?
[17:55] <york105> brazucka, no problem :)
[17:55] <carlosgaldino> york105, What exactly the dhclient does?
[17:55] <schiellerup> software
[17:56] <schiellerup> i want to upgrade it
[17:56] <ikonia> schiellerup: the ubuntu package manager will let you know when an update is available
[17:56] <Some_Person> psusi: Is that a problem?
[17:57] <york105> carlosgladino, dhclient basically reloads the dhcp so if your server/router supports dhcp your machine will be assigned a fresh ip address which should hopefully resolve minor network issues
[17:57] <schiellerup> ok ty
[17:58] <psycho_oreos> carlosgaldino, I didn't mean router issues, I meant routing issues, like how you setup networking or the way data navigates from one point to another
[17:58] <deostroll> hi hw do u get all those fluidy shearing effects when u drag a window n all in karmc desktop?
[17:58] <psusi> Some_Person: other than wasting space?  no
[17:59]  * arriesp bye
[17:59] <psycho_oreos> deostroll, you probably meant compiz
[17:59] <Boondoklife> deostroll: enable wobbly windows in compiz manager
[17:59] <deostroll> is compiz something i hve to additionally install?
[17:59] <Emanon> yes
[17:59] <soreau> no
[17:59] <soreau> deostroll: compiz is already installed
[18:00] <soreau> deostroll: To get wobbly windows, simply set Extra in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects tab
[18:00] <Boondoklife> deostroll: No it should be there, but you may need to install the compiz manager. Try to install simple compiz manager. It will let you pick and choose what you want with a simpler interface.
[18:00] <marko-_-> does someone know why can't i watch HD movies (i'm not good with audio/video so i guess "pure" HD are .mkv files?) my computer freezes after a while, the temperature doesn't go up very much but my two cores go to 100% and then it just freezes... what can i do to prevent this?
[18:01] <hoonches> can anyone tell me where i can find a list of sellers of systems designed for ubuntu?
[18:01] <Emanon> sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:01] <soreau> Boondoklife: He doesnt even need ccsm since wobbly is one of the perdefined effects when selecting Extra
[18:01] <Some_Person> psusi: Why won't GParted let me resize a partition to fill that space?
[18:01] <soreau> compiz-gnome is also already installed by default
[18:01] <Brazucka> york105: I guess everything is fine now. Thanks a lot.
[18:02] <Boondoklife> soreau: Yea normally it will activate it, but I ran into an issue with that before, prolly my own tinkering, where I hade to check the box manualy in the manager to get it to work.
[18:02] <deostroll> soreau : in the visual effects when i click on extra, it searches for drivers, n then finally says cannot be loaded...y is this so?
[18:02] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, it might be a codec related issue but I somewhat doubt it.. or the media player you were using doesn't effectively manage system resources
[18:02] <dbook82> ok i put a different music cd and now lshw shows cdrom configuration: open
[18:02] <york105> no problem brazucka :)
[18:02] <hoonches> can anyone tell me where i can find a list of sellers of systems designed for ubuntu?
[18:02] <deostroll> my machine is a p4 intel
[18:02] <soreau> deostroll: Can you come to #compiz and pastein the output of compiz from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[18:02] <dbook82> sorry configuration status=open
[18:03] <Vigo> hoonches: Ubuntu.com
[18:03] <Emanon> hoonches: empororlinux, system76, dell are the top ones i think
[18:03] <carlosgaldino> psycho_oreos, Ok. I got it.
[18:03] <ichuot> hi all
[18:03] <hayanbom> hi
[18:04] <psycho_oreos> any of you know a way to restrict updating to a different pre-built packages? I'm getting kernel update notification for x86_64 when I'm using i686 and I don't want update to bug me about x86_64 stuff
[18:04] <york105> psycho_oreos, can you list what packages are listed for updation
[18:05] <Stargaze> hoonches, check http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/pc.html
[18:05] <psycho_oreos> york105, linux-{headers,image,source}-`uname -r`
[18:05] <cheyne> How can I add more display resolutions in 9.10?
[18:05] <Vigo> hoonches: Here is a link: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/partners/
[18:06] <psycho_oreos> york105, ironically enough I have these versions installed already, but the update notified me of the same version but for x86_64 instead of i686
[18:06] <psycho_oreos> cheyne, depends on your video chipset
[18:06] <lanzelloth> does anyone have a book recommendation for learning about linux or *nix stuff that's modern and fairly independent of the distribution? I don't wanna be learning about how to use f-spot photo manager or silly things like that; but more about things like permissions and groups, bash, sudo vs su, etc
[18:07] <ichuot> tiếng việt
[18:07] <eremite> cheyne, http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu
[18:07] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, there's BASH for most of those things.. they are shell commands
[18:07] <Emanon> a slackware manual is usually pretty safe lanzelloth alot of distro independant stuff
[18:07] <york105> psychos-oreos, try running >apt-get check  to make sure you're not getting asked to install same updates again because of a repo error
[18:07] <odeland1> greetings, does anyone know the best channel to get some help with RAID 1 checking/fixing?
[18:08] <york105> cheyne, use the xrandr command to set monitor to any resolution example > xrandr -s 1280x800
[18:08]  * dbook82 gets up and moseys to the kitchen
[18:08] <ikonia> odeland1: software or hardware raid, with what operating system ?
[18:08] <mi-kun> how cd to ubuntu-ru?
[18:08] <ikonia> mi-kun: /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:08] <odeland1> ubuntu server, 8.10, fakeraid intel matrix storage
[18:08] <psycho_oreos> york105, ok ran that without error, I suppose I'll have to wait a bit before that icon disappears
[18:08] <eremite> york105, if the resolution desired is not set as a default then you need to manually ad it, also using xrandr and grep
[18:08] <eremite> also gtf
[18:08] <ikonia> ?
[18:08] <lanzelloth> OK
[18:09] <york105> aye, agree with eremite
[18:09] <mi-kun> ikonia> thanks
[18:09] <cheyne> My monitor is capable of much higher resolution than the 800x600 I see in display preferences
[18:09] <eremite> cheyne, please see the link @ http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu
[18:09] <marko-_-> psycho_oreos, it happens on every media player, can you help me more i want to watch this movie
[18:09] <odeland1> ikonia: onboard raid (intel matrix) running ubuntu server 8.10
[18:09] <Emanon> cheyne: you install the drivers specific to your graphics card
[18:10] <ikonia> odeland1: ok - so that's fakeraid, which is a poor technology with poor support in general, what's the issue with it
[18:10] <eremite> Emanon, not exactly true.  My intel driver should work and does not.
[18:10] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, hmm how much memory do you have on that ubuntu machine?
[18:10] <Emanon> eremite: i meant to put a ? on the end of that
[18:10] <marko-_-> psycho_oreos, 2gb
[18:10] <Emanon> it wasnt an instruction it was a question
[18:10] <R2D21> Ok och nu funkar det då eller?
[18:10] <Emanon> !de | R2D21
[18:11] <Emanon> that was german right?
[18:11] <eremite> Emanon, ask questions using qords like "did you" and people may understand you more often :D
[18:11] <eremite> words*
[18:11] <mneptok> Emanon: no.
[18:11] <llutz> Emanon: danish
[18:11] <Myrtti> Emanon: swedish.
[18:11] <Emanon> oh darn
[18:11] <odeland1> ikonia: can I boot from a live CD and check each drives manually, using fsck or whatever, or is there really no support for fakeraid?
[18:11] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, and when the system freezes, does the keyboard LED light up?
[18:11] <R2D21> Opps sorry, will join  ubuntu-se
[18:11] <llutz> nearby
[18:11] <ikonia> odeland1: you can't check the drives manually, you have to check the drive's consistancy as a whole
[18:12] <marko-_-> psycho_oreos, uh i can't remember that, it was some time ago that i watched an .mkv movie... what does it mean if they do?
[18:12] <Emanon> someone give R2D21 link do danish/swedish channels i dont know their abbr's
[18:12] <york105> marko-_- I am able to play mkv files using VLC
[18:12] <york105> without installing any further codecs
[18:12] <Myrtti> Emanon: he already got it
[18:12] <eremite> markl_, mkv files should play fine if you have something like VLC installed
[18:12] <Emanon> k im out for the evening bye all
[18:12] <DefineByte> Is there a command I can use to see what audio formats my USB souncard supports through ALSA?
[18:12] <marko-_-> york105, it works great but then it freezes because my both two cores go to 100%
[18:12] <dany2> hi all
[18:12] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, if any of them flash at a constant rate (it should normally be all of them) it means its a severe system issue (i.e. kernel panic)
[18:12] <dany2>  I have a problem, I installed win7 and now grub is down.. I have tried to solve this problem in the classical way... mounting the partition of linux in mnt etc but when I do: sudo chroot /mnt i get:
[18:12] <dany2> chroot: cannot run command /bin/bash: no such file or directory
[18:12]  * dbook82 temps ubuntu with some cookies "please make the cd drive work?"
[18:13] <Leiva> hola
[18:13] <eremite> dany2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:13] <Myrtti> !es | Leiva
[18:13] <Leiva> dpçç
[18:13] <grobda24> Hello, I have some health problems that are preventing me from setting up mplayer for DVB-T TV. Can anyone help ? http://pastebin.com/u5xMbS88
[18:13] <dany2> I have kubuntu 32 bit and tried with ubuntu live 32 and 64 bit, kubuntu live 32 and 64 bit
[18:13] <Leiva> djkqd
[18:13] <odeland1> ikonia: so then can I boot from live CD and check the drive's constitancy as a whole?
[18:13] <ikonia> sure
[18:13] <eremite> dany2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:14] <dany2> eremite: read it..
[18:14] <york105> dbook82 try fdisk -l to to locate cd drive then mount is using > sudo mount /path (cookies !)
[18:14] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, which version are you using out of curiousity
[18:14] <dany2> this problem with chroot still exists
[18:14] <odeland1> ikonia: which tool? fsck?
[18:14] <ikonia> odeland1: yes
[18:15] <ikonia> dany2: a.) check the file links within the chroot b.) make sure you're entering the chroot properly c.) make sure all the libraries it needs/links to are present inside the chroot
[18:15] <marko-_-> psycho_oreos, 9.10 but it happened on 8.10 (didn't used 9.04) and in the time when i was using foresight i think it happened also there (BUT I'M NOT SURE, can't remember it)... someone told me it can maybe be that i'm decoding it with my cpu instead of my gpu or something like that, he also told me to check if the gpu's temperature is rising while watching the movie (that's normal if it rises, right?) and it didn't... so this is maybe a clue
[18:16] <Daisho> hi, guys!  can anyone help out a less experienced ubuntu user? I'm having problems with my toolbar, it's gray.
[18:16] <dany2> ikonia : a)what links= b) yes I'm sure c) how?
[18:16] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, well its hard to say, you've found out its not a CPU issue.. and yes GPU does rise slightly. However with the right temperature monitoring tools it shouldn't exceed 60-70 degrees celsius so to speak
[18:17] <york105> Daisho, can you elaborate, why is it grey?
[18:17] <ikonia> dany2: a.) /bin/bash within the chroot b.) fine c.) ldd /chroot/bin/bash then check those files exist within the chroot file system
[18:17] <dbook82> yotk: fdisk -l doesn't do anything
[18:17] <dbook82> clear
[18:17] <york105> sure fdisk -l needs to be run as root user try sudo fdisk -l
[18:18] <davidX-> is there a channel dedicated to UEC?
[18:18] <dbook82> york: ok that worked, /dev/sd1 thru 6 is all that comes up
[18:19] <marko-_-> psycho_oreos, any ideas?
[18:19] <dany2> ikonia: if I write: /bin/bash no error prompt then it's ok b) fine :D
[18:19] <ikonia> dany2: that's not what I said
[18:19] <dany2> c) is not very clear
[18:19] <york105> dbook82 so then create a directory in /media, name if whatever you want and then > sudo mount /dev/sdx /media/mydirectory
[18:19] <dany2> ikonia : uhm, what do you mean then?
[18:20] <dbook82> york: can't locate a /media directory
[18:20] <ikonia> dany2: I said a.) check /bin/bash existins within the chroot file system c.) you need to run ldd against /chroot/bin/bash - it will give you a list of libraries and their locations, make sure those libraries and locations exist within the chroot file ssytem
[18:20] <psycho_oreos> marko-_-, hard to say at this point, so its not GPU issue either? I'd try a few other livecd/livedvd/liveusb based linux distros and see if playing various movies constantly would cause it to freeze.. it might also be a RAM issue
[18:20] <york105> no there's already a directory called media on root directory
[18:20] <Daisho> york105: I don't know. I tried to make the upper toolbar autohide the other day and the system froze. I tried rebooting but it just kept loading after login, no shortcuts or toolbars appeared. then I tried reinstalling (error: usr/bin/dpkg might be damaged) and repaired packages, and now I can't see anything but gray stripes at the top and bottom of the screen...
[18:20] <soco> [_]P
[18:21] <Copperred> hello........how do i turn off the feature....where when my mouse hovers over a window long enough.....it brings that window to the top......id like to turn this feature off.....
[18:21] <york105> Daisho, very strange, does tty1 work for you?
[18:21] <dany2> ikonia : thx I'll try it
[18:21] <Daisho> york105: the system is working, though, but I have to start programs and so on from the terminal
[18:21] <york105> Copperred try installing ubuntu-tweak easy GUI way to do what you want
[18:21] <schiellerup> can i on some how, delete Ubuntu from my PC and get Windows Vista again? i don't like this programt that much, so i will more have Vista again
[18:22] <dbook82> oh crap! hang on a sec. i typed sudo nautilus &, nautilus popped up and cdrom0 is on the left hand side and also this error popped up: unable to mount cdrom0, mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[18:22] <ikonia> schiellerup: just re-install vista over the top
[18:22] <Daisho> york105: forgive my ignorance, but what is tty1?
[18:22] <schiellerup> over the top where?
[18:22] <Copperred> York....i think its a simple Check The Box...in one of the settings applications....but i cant find it.....i remember turning it on....but not sure which app it was.....idea?
[18:22] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu_it-chat
[18:22] <Copperred> will look for that app to install
[18:22] <lorenzo_> #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:23] <schiellerup> how do i uninstall Ubuntu?
[18:23] <soco> hello everyone, somebody know if the floppy disk issue in ubuntu 9.10 was fixed?
[18:23] <dbook82> york did you see that?
[18:23] <york105> Daisho :) always good to ask I am just wondering if your termianl7 (GUI) has frozen, if so you should have TTY1 to6 available to you, press CTRL + ALT + F1, that's what we guys do to kill programs if GUI freezes
[18:23] <mark__> there are 2 desktops that i can use and i select with CTL+ALT and RIGHT ARROW. How can i increase the amount of desktops from 2 to 4 or somthing is that possible. thanks
[18:24] <sirninja> Is there a way to create a wireless access point from my router using ubuntu?
[18:24] <Aminux> anybody here speak portuguese
[18:24] <york105> mark_ right click the desktop switcher at the bottom right hand corner, goto properties and set the number of desktops you want
[18:24] <sirninja> I meant from my laptop*
[18:24] <psycho_oreos> !pt Aminux
[18:24] <psycho_oreos> !pt | Aminux
[18:24] <york105> sirninja, you can't create an access point but you can create an adhoc wifi network, is that what you want?
[18:24] <Aminux> !pt
[18:25] <soco> somebody know if the floppy disk issue in ubuntu 9.10 was fixed?
[18:25] <sirninja> york105: I want to be able to connect to it with my ds to play online, so I don't think ad hoc would work
[18:25] <mark__> york105: thanks pal
[18:25] <york105> sirninja, further access point for the router should be in router's manual pages
[18:25] <york105> mark_ no problem :)
[18:25] <Leiva> NCBSKS
[18:25] <Leiva> ,CÑS
[18:25] <Leiva> NCKCL
[18:25] <sirninja> york105: I meant to say create an access point from my laptop
[18:25] <Leiva> CNDCOJAD
[18:25] <FloodBot1> Leiva: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <york105> aye, the ad hoc network is no use if you want to play games, etc, what router do you have sirninja?
[18:27] <sirninja> york105: it's not compatible with the ds. I want to be able to plug in my laptop via a wired connection and have the laptop broadcast a signal for my ds. Is that not possible?
[18:27]  * dbook82 is AFK
[18:28] <soco> #ubuntu-es
[18:28] <ikonia> !away > dbook82
[18:28] <leoxagy13> hi people
[18:28] <york105> sirninja, naw, that's too far fetched, you can however, connect your laptop to the network and sort of share the connection but you can't rebroadcast (amplify) the signal, because inbulit network cards for wifi can't be run in infrastructure mode
[18:28] <leoxagy13> anyone here knows how to install EPSON tm-u220pd dot matrix printer on ubuntu 8.04 ???
[18:29] <leoxagy13> i cant get it to work properly
[18:29] <york105> sirninja, but your's might, check your wifi card documentation if it supports infrastructure mode
[18:29] <sirninja> york105: interesting. and if it does is there some package that would allow me to broadcast in infrastructure mode?
[18:29] <lanzelloth> if someone was to boot from a ubuntu live cd will he get all access to the all the files in my computer? Are file permissions independent from the os?
[18:29] <leoxagy13> it prints with spaces between dots, so not really acurate ..... also prints with a lot of extra paper
[18:30] <leoxagy13> someone ???
[18:30] <leoxagy13> please help :) ?
[18:30] <york105> sirninja, never tried that so honestly wouldn't know what package would allow you to rebroadcast a signal :) sorry mate
[18:30] <soco> como me conecto al canal en castellano?
[18:30] <sirninja> york105: thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[18:30] <darolu> lanzelloth, yes they would get full access to your files
[18:31] <Guest59090> york105: if you are talking about the fullscreen terminal (to put it in a way I can understand :) then it works. the system seems to be working fine except for the thing with the toolbars
[18:31] <leoxagy13> hola soco me parece que es #ubuntu-es
[18:31] <york105> sirninja, glad to be of help :)
[18:31] <arjunvj31>  
[18:31] <darolu> soco, aquí en el chat escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[18:31] <soco> ok
[18:31] <leoxagy13> ﻿/join #ubuntu-es
[18:32] <york105> Guest59090, try right clicking the panel and > delete this panel. Your panel will go away and you'll have to reconstruct it with all shortcuts you had, worth a shot
[18:32] <lanzelloth> darolu, why isn't file permissions integrated into the partition format itself, since the file nodes are kept in the partition anyways
[18:32] <faron> okee dokee who knows terminal commands ? can anyone tell me how to remove Shockwave Flash 10.1 d51 ?
[18:33] <leoxagy13> Hi i have a printer problem here someone can help me ?
[18:33] <lanzelloth> nvm it's probably futile
[18:33] <Resonate> Hey all, trying to learn how buffer overflows work, I can't seem to get them to work in Ubuntu. Stack randomisation is off, and I compile with -f-no-stack-protector, but all of them with shellcode in result in SEG_FAULT. Any advice?
[18:33] <york105> leoxagy13: try this sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[18:34]  * dbook82 is back
[18:34] <leoxagy13> york105: sure that seems to flash, this is a dot matrix printer problem
[18:34] <darolu> lanzelloth, permissions are not written in the partition table, when you are root, no matter if it is a LiveCD or HD installation you get access to everything, there is no such thing as security when someone has physical access to a device; your best shot is to encrypt important files
[18:34] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, and after remove => sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:35] <lanzelloth> darolu, that makes sense, thank you
[18:35] <leoxagy13> ok, i will then
[18:35] <leoxagy13> i'll be back in a second
[18:35] <Stargaze> miss you already leoxagy13 ;)
[18:36] <york105> :D
[18:36] <leoxagy13> Stargaze: jaja
[18:37] <daras> dsdsd
[18:37] <Daisho> york105: I've tried that, but I can't even right click. nothing happens.
[18:37] <dbook82> UPDATE: going into nautilus under sudo, the cdrom drive shows up but i get an unable to mount message
[18:37] <espana> alguien es español?
[18:37] <Trek> !es | espana
[18:37] <dany2> solved
[18:37] <york105> ?Daisho, so just to clarify the panel is frozen from the point you login
[18:38] <Copperred> I need to replace a CONFIG file ...in a certain folder.....but when I try to drag and drop the file.....it denies me permission........is this a root user issue?  how i do?   Thanks...
[18:38] <KingMuty> hello
[18:38] <darolu> espana, ve al canal en castellano, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[18:38] <KingMuty> my system network aint working! plz help
[18:38] <rahduke> hey whats up with the new kernel (2.6.31-20) my buddy updated his install and ended up having all sorts of problems, is this thing stable?
[18:38] <york105> Copperred try > ALT f2 > gksudo nautilus
[18:38] <Trek> rahduke: have him use the slightly-older kernel then
[18:38] <Stargaze> rahduke, i use it without problems
[18:39] <Trek> rahduke: perhaps its the computer its loading on
[18:39] <Copperred> york can i private messag with u?
[18:39] <rahduke> I don't care about him, I'm worried about upgrading tho
[18:39] <york105> rahduke, I use it without problems
[18:39] <york105> safe to upgrade
[18:39] <york105> its supposed to be production release
[18:39] <rahduke> york105: what kind of setup do you have?
[18:40] <KingMuty> dudes how do I fix my network connection on jaunty?
[18:40] <Trek> KingMuty, we need details
[18:40] <Trek> !details | KingMuty
[18:40] <york105> rahduke, I've got Ubuntu 9.10 on x.20 both deskop and a server
[18:40] <dbook82> slart: you back yet?
[18:40] <Stargaze> KingMuty, a bit more specific please
[18:41] <Daisho> york105: yes. gnome starts, all my desktop shortcuts are there, I can change workspaces and I can access the terminal through hotkeys and run programs from there
[18:41] <rahduke> i hope this doesn't break my install
[18:41] <Daisho> york105: but the toolbars are gray and nonresponsive
[18:41] <york105> Daisho, its a long shot but might just work, have you tried reinstalling Gnome?
[18:41] <mrSean> hello im kind of new to linux
[18:42] <Trek> rahduke: if you're concerned, then keep one of the older kernels around, I have 2 kernels on mine: most recent Jaunty one and the one before it
[18:42] <mrSean> and i have trouble installing
[18:42] <mrSean> ubuntu 9.10
[18:42] <rahduke> Trek: I am, also updating some nvidia modaliases, that has screwed me in the past
[18:42] <york105> mrSean, some more details please
[18:42] <KingMuty> Ubuntu 9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope. My ethernet network connection is not running! I can not browser nor ping google,com
[18:43] <Trek> rahduke: do you HAVE to update?
[18:43] <faron> okay,let ma ask this...what I would like to do is to remove libflashplayer.so from /home/bobby/.mozilla/plugins/.Can anybody tell me how to navigate to that folder & remove that from there with the terminal because about :  plugins says that I have shockwave flash & futuresplash player installed & I want to try something else ?
[18:43] <krlsmgl> hi people!! someone can help me??a
[18:43] <Trek> KingMuty: is your ethernet card working?
[18:43] <Trek> !ask | krlsmgl
[18:43] <york105> KingMuty, try this > sudo ifconfig which should list your network cards, to renew dhcp leased ips > sudo dhclient
[18:43] <rahduke> Trek: never have to update, but I do anyway
[18:43] <level09> how do I extract all .gz archives in a directory?
[18:43] <mrSean> its fully installed but when i boot it says @error: no such device: 5fblah blah
[18:43] <level09> tar -vxzf *.gz doesn't seem to work
[18:43] <krlsmgl> I have problems with my new install
[18:44] <KingMuty> Of course the ethernet is working. It is a laptop with builtin ethernet
[18:44] <Daisho> york105: when I try "sudo apt-get install gnome" I get E: broken package
[18:44] <york105> level09 try the untar command
[18:44] <Trek> !details | krlsmgl
[18:44] <york105> mrSean are you running a virtual machine?
[18:44] <Stargaze> !ask| krlsmgl
[18:44] <mrSean> no
[18:44] <krlsmgl> the sound don't work
[18:44] <Trek> Stargaze: I already gave him that one :P
[18:44] <Daisho> york105: it also says some dependencies are unfulfilled, but I can't install those packages either
[18:44] <Stargaze> Trek, two is better than one :)
[18:45] <york105> mrSeanL well this simply means that the network interface was present during install but is absent now
[18:45] <KingMuty> it must be a genius that put the terminal in the accessories menu
[18:45] <Trek> Stargate: true
[18:45] <mrSean> it has a ethernet card and wlan card and both werent touched
[18:45] <krlsmgl> i installed the last ubuntu into my new laptop and can find the way to hear whatever
[18:46] <Stargaze> !it| krlsmgl
[18:46] <york105> Daisho, first thing to do is resolve dependencies, fire up synaptec> go to EDIT > Fix broken packages
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> level09, if i remember correctly tar won't accept * for input - you could use a for-loop if you have a lot of files, but try using your command on just one file and see if that works
[18:46] <level09> it works on a single file
[18:47] <level09> not sure how to do for loops :P
[18:47] <york105> broken depen... means you have apps on your system which rely on files that are either missing or corrupt
[18:47] <mrSean> york105: i didnt touch and hardware during or after the installation?
[18:47] <york105> mrSean, sure, can you post the output of ifconfig run as root
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> level09, so "for file in *.gz ; do tar zxvf $file ; done" should work
[18:47] <lanzelloth> do you guys use any command-line utility that emulates the gui delete (gnome) that sends things to the "trash"
[18:47] <leoxagy13> york105: i did the sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get upgrade thing
[18:47] <Trek> mrSean: post the output of ifconfig to pastebin
[18:47] <Trek> !pastebin | mrSean
[18:47] <york105> lanzelloth, good question, not that I know of any
[18:48] <mrSean> im very new to this what is the command i should put in?
[18:48] <tps_> hello... how can i change my login theme in karmic?
[18:48] <level09> ZykoticK9: nice ! let me try that
[18:48] <KingMuty> dude
[18:48] <coz_> tps_,   its not difficult  hold on
[18:48] <level09> ZykoticK9: do i Need a $ for the fist file variable ?
[18:48] <KingMuty> I did dhcleint
[18:48] <lanzelloth> york105, I'm not even sure where the trash is
[18:48] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. dinners done... much happier now
[18:48] <krlsmgl> in this case, someone speak Spanish??
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> level09, no
[18:48] <york105> leoxagy13, you should now have uninstalled flash :)
[18:48] <Trek> !es | krlsmgl
[18:48] <KingMuty> no ping google.com
[18:48] <coz_> tps_,   ok open a terminal  and paste t his command        gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[18:48] <level09> Thanks !
[18:48] <york105> trash is :trash
[18:49] <dbook82> slart: that good, had a snack myself
[18:49] <leoxagy13> york105: i dont need to unistall flash!
[18:49] <lanzelloth> york105, which is where?
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  that will open what appears to be the appearance dialog...which it is for root...choose a them as if you are going to change the system theme ..
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  however it will ONLY change the gdm theme  but
[18:49] <Resonate> Can someone help me with stack overflows and SIGSEGV signals?
[18:49] <defconxxx>  one
[18:49] <Slart> dbook82: so.. where were we.. you get several devices.. that's a good thing.. but you can't access the files from any cd/dvd you insert.. but you used the same dvd to install ubuntu, right?
[18:49] <coz_> tps_,  you will also notice that 2  accessiblity icons now show up in the systray
[18:49] <york105> too many people
[18:50] <KingMuty> defconxxx <- :)
[18:50] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, is it flash question or a dot matrix question, or how are they related?
[18:50] <Trek> Resonate: in what context?
[18:50] <york105> overload
[18:50] <level09> ZykoticK9: magic ! thanks it worked
[18:50] <KingMuty> so dudes
[18:50] <tps_> coz_: what about the login?
[18:50] <leoxagy13> i'm looking to make an EPSON tm-u220pd dot matrix printer to work, it's having problems printting with spaces between lines
[18:50] <KingMuty> I am still not connected
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> level09, :)
[18:50] <mrSean> will some one please help me, in a private chat if possible as its easier
[18:50] <leoxagy13> Stargaze: PRINTER
[18:50] <defconxxx> high every one
[18:50] <coz_> tps_,  you can delete one of them by openin system/preferences/keyboard
[18:50] <krlsmgl> thanks, gracias, aguije, brigado, danke
[18:50] <york105> okay for someone who wanted to go to trash, the path is trash://
[18:50] <coz_> tps_,  that will ONLY change the login screen not the system theme you are using now  but you MUST reboot  for that to take effect
[18:50] <KingMuty> hey why dont we ban all the haxors like defcong
[18:50] <Resonate> Trek: Trying to get a buffer overflow working with Shellcode, but it sends a SIGSEGV signal (SEGFAULT) every time I run a C program with any shellcode.
[18:50] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, and where does flash come in then?
[18:50] <dbook82> slart: correct, also i went into nautilus under sudo, and there is a cdrom0 in the left panel thingy but i get a mount error, check the screenshot on the thread i posted if you would like
[18:50] <leoxagy13> NOTHING!
[18:51] <sate> Hello guys, I have dropbox, and I have dropbox on another computer, and I'm trying to sync up and for some reason, when I add files from the other computer, my ubuntu computer isn't getting the files
[18:51] <mark__> hi dan
[18:51] <dan____> hi mark
[18:51] <tps_> coz_: thanks
[18:51] <Trek> Resonate: ah, can't really help there, I don't work with C unfortunately
[18:51] <coz_> tps_,  no problem  come back because we will have to remove the accessibility icon from systray
[18:52] <Resonate> Trek: Know anything about stack protection in Ubuntu perchance then?
[18:52] <sate> Hello guys, I have dropbox, and I have dropbox on another computer, and I'm trying to sync up and for some reason, when I add files from the other computer, my ubuntu computer isn't getting the files
[18:52] <Slart> dbook82: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[18:52] <CalmvsKhaos> sate, I don't know about dropbox much, but i *Do* know CrashPlan works in Ubuntu, CrashPlan is like Carbonite.
[18:52] <Slart> dbook82: there should be a line about the cdrom in there
[18:52] <faron> york105 maybe you can help me with my flash issue too...?? Please ? about : plugins say that I have shockwave flash & futuersplash player installed.I need to know how to remove that with the terminal FROM /home/bobby/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so can you help ?
[18:52] <dbook82> how do i do that?
[18:52] <Stargaze> sate, can you not update manually?
[18:52] <coz_> sate,   this really isnt an ubuntu issue    but are you using the same account on both systems?
[18:53] <Trek> Resonate: sorry, can't help you there.
[18:53] <KingMuty> guys my network aint working!
[18:53] <coz_> sate,  you may want to go to the dropbox forum to get a resolution for this
[18:53] <Resonate> Trek: No problem, thanks anyway
[18:53] <Trek> KingMuty, calm down, we KNOW your network isn't working, you've said it MULTIPLE TIMES.
[18:53] <Stargaze> KingMuty, type /join #ubuntu-server
[18:53] <Trek> KingMuty, unfortunately, you have to wait, like everyone else, for an answer
[18:53] <pierz> Hi
[18:53] <sate> Yeah, Kinda annoying because on windows xp, any files I updated, automatically updated to my windows xp dropbox
[18:54] <pierz> Could anybody spare a moment of their time to help a poor newbie?
[18:54] <Trek> Stargaze: his issue isn't a server issue, he can't get his ethernet working, from what I can tell
[18:54] <mike48478> hello guys, maybe someone could help me (in private) to format one of my hdds?! Can't do it with disk utility program,shows an error...
[18:54] <dbook82> slart: how do i get that to appear on the terminal?
[18:54] <coz_> KingMuty,  if no one can help here you may also want to log onto the ##linux channel
[18:54] <koke_> Latnock, te veo
[18:54] <Trek> !ask | pierz
[18:54] <Slart> dbook82: cat /etc/fstab    will print it out
[18:54] <krlsmgl> once again, I've a laptop hp dv7 3650 and the sound system don't work
[18:54] <Slart> dbook82: gedit /etc/fstab    works too
[18:54] <eremite> sate, have you tried Ubuntu One?  Its simialr to DropBox and you should be able to transfer your files from one folder to the other.
[18:54] <bazita> hi everyone i'am new to this
[18:55] <coz_> krlsmgl,  did you open a terminal and type   alsamixer?  check the sliders are up and nothing is muted
[18:55] <Slart> !pastebin | dbook82
[18:55] <dbook82> slart: ok i see the cdrom at the bottom of it, whats the url for pastebin?
[18:55] <krlsmgl> yes I fixed that and nothing happeng
[18:55] <coz_> dbook82,   pastebin.com
[18:55] <sate> Well this dropbox, also syncs with co workers computer as well eremite
[18:55] <pierz> All right basically I'm unable to actually boot into my ubuntu 9.10 drive, I select it from my boot menu, the white ubuntu icon appears as usual, but then it hangs on a black screen. I did a couple of updates this morning, so I'm not sure if those affected it. Could anybody help?
[18:55] <CalmvsKhaos> eremite, Ubuntu One has always (and still does) crap out on me daily, it is not reliable at all if you ask me
[18:56] <ipatrol> I have a computer guy here trying to fix my wireless problem, any suggestions?
[18:56] <lanzelloth> york105, found that there's a program trash (install package trash-cli) for dealing with the trash from terminal
[18:56] <dbook82> slart: there ya go http://paste.ubuntu.com/396867/
[18:56] <Trek> ipatrol: if you've got a tech there, why ask us?  (sorry about attitude, i don't mean anything by it)
[18:56] <york105> thanks for the info lanzelloth ;-)
[18:56] <ipatrol> Trek: Hes not a linux guy
[18:56] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. identical to what's on my own system
[18:56] <eremite> CalmvsKhaos, I have limited expeirnce with it.  I've got maybe 20 docts stored on it, nothing important.  Worrks for me, except for the first time I used it.  I needed to delet a .conf file to make it work for me.
[18:57] <ipatrol> He's suggesting Windows
[18:57] <LLStarks> hi. is it normal for oxygen-icon-theme to take 10 minutes to unpack?
[18:57] <Trek> ipatrol: explain your wireless issues to me here, and tell the Windows guy to stop recommending windows because you want to use *nix
[18:57] <theadmin> What are the differences between Ubuntu's OpenOffice and regular OpenOffice from openoffice.org?
[18:57] <coz_> LLStarks,  well it takes a bit of time yes  not 10 minutes litterally
[18:57] <ipatrol> Trek: My wife decides, and she doesnt care either way
[18:57] <dbook82> slart: whats the prognosis doc? will she make it?
[18:57] <eremite> theadmin, nothing as far as I know.
[18:58] <ipatrol> I need to salvage it or shell by 7
[18:58] <leoxagy13> Anyone knows how to install (and get it to work properly ..) an EPSON TM-U220PD printer MODEL M188D on Ubuntu 8.04???, I installed it in Administration > Printers > Selecting EPSON and 9-pin models, it prints but with spaces between the intented document ... for example the test page pritns the lines of the border as DASHED ..... i've tried other options in the driver selection but just cause the printer to go crazy having my to reboot the sistem	
[18:58] <Trek> ipatrol: regardless, details about your wireless issues, please
[18:58] <eremite> theadmin, maybe Ubuntu's is optimized for use with the Ubuntu system.
[18:58] <krlsmgl> coz, I checked again
[18:58] <pierz> !ask
[18:58] <theadmin> eremite: Well except the About box? And the loading screen (it is orange instead of blue)
[18:58] <cephess> I'm a noob to ubuntu . I need to figure how to upgrade vsftpd 2.2.2 -- aptget only has 2.2 -- any help would be great
[18:58] <mike48478> hello guys, maybe someone could help me (in private) to format one of my hdds?! Can't do it with disk utility program,shows an error...
[18:58] <Stargaze> leoxagy13, is CUPS installed?
[18:58] <coz_> krlsmgl,  for your sound card?
[18:58] <Slart> dbook82: I have no idea.. it might something really simple that a single command in a terminal will solve.. or it might be a kernel issue and then you won't get it fixed until there's a new kernel...
[18:58] <theadmin> mike48478: just sudo mkfs.FSTYPE /dev/sda1 (or whatever the disk is)
[18:59] <Slart> dbook82: you said you didn't have a /media folder?
[18:59] <coz_> krlsmgl,  you may want to go to the #alsa   or #pulseaudio  channels
[18:59] <blue-frog> mike48478, what error?
[18:59] <ipatrol> Trek: Iwconfig shows the adapter as working, mabye the drivers are imperfect?
[18:59] <pierz> Hi, I'm unable to actually boot into my ubuntu 9.10 drive, I select it from my boot menu, the white ubuntu icon appears as usual, but then it hangs on a black screen. I did a couple of updates this morning, so I'm not sure if those affected it. Could anybody help?
[18:59] <dbook82> slart: not sure where its at
[18:59] <theadmin> mike48478: Something like "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1"
[18:59] <eremite> theadmin, the only difference I can think of is that the one from the ubuntu repos is easily updated, manually installed versions are not.
[18:59] <Trek> ipatrol: not enough details, more please, like what's the exact issues you have now?
[18:59] <Slart> dbook82: if you open nautilus and write /media/  in the address bar
[18:59] <krlsmgl> yea, and so?
[19:00] <theadmin> eremite: Well, i guess. Icons are also different (from Windows version, at least)
[19:00] <ipatrol> Trek: The GUI shows the network, but a WEP connection fails
[19:00] <ipatrol> With key
[19:00] <dbook82> slart: ok i'm there, there's a cdrom folder with a curving up arrow, and a cdrom0 folder
[19:00] <krlsmgl> what I gonna put?
[19:00] <Trek> ipatrol: wicd or network manager?
[19:00] <ipatrol> Trek: Network manager
[19:00] <Slart> dbook82: yes, the curved arrow thing just means that it's a symlink (a shortcut).. the cdrom0 folder is the "real" one
[19:00] <ipatrol> 9.10
[19:00] <Slart> dbook82: is there anything in the cdrom0 folder?
[19:01] <dbook82> slart: no there isn't
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: interesting, haven't had that happen before, you tried rebooting the router to see if its a router-side issue?
[19:01] <eremite> theadmin, minor visual differences like icons are hardly in the way of productivity.  If you were to change your Windows system-wide icon theme, your OO icons would look different than they do now.  Just like Ubuntu.
[19:01] <Slart> dbook82: and you've got a data cd in the drive now?
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: reboot as in unplug the router/modem for a minute, plug it back in
[19:01] <ipatrol> Trek: Ive tried for months
[19:01] <ipatrol> Rebooting often
[19:01] <Trek> ipatrol: what wifi card?
[19:01] <theadmin> eremite: Meh, Windows version of OOo uses old GTK icons, so theme does not affect those
[19:01] <blue-frog> ipatrol, what does /var/log/syslog says about your wifi connection attempts?
[19:01] <dbook82> slart: no there isn't anything in there and i can't get hte drive to open
[19:02] <Trek> ipatrol, I have to go right now, but perhaps blue-frog can help you out
[19:02] <Slart> dbook82: oh.. tried typing "eject" in a terminal?
[19:02] <ipatrol> Trek: WUSB600N
[19:02] <leoxagy13> ﻿Stargaze: I think
[19:02] <coz_> dbdii407,  the terminal command should be  eject -T
[19:02] <dbook82> slart: just did, nothing
[19:02] <Trek> blue-frog: his wifi card is: <ipatrol> WUSB600N
[19:02] <eremite> theadmin, I wouldnt know, I dont use windows for openoffice.
[19:02] <coz_> dbdii407,  that should open it and eject -t  should close it
[19:03] <Copperred> is there anyoen her i can private message with abotu doing the simpliest thing...i need to replace a config file with one i have on my desktop...and it keeps denying me permission.....
[19:03] <leoxagy13> ﻿Stargaze: ps -e | grep -i cups ; shows me a cupsd process so i'll bet that's the CUPS deamon ...
[19:03] <ipatrol> blue-frog: The guy says the drivers arent working
[19:03] <Daisho> york105: nope, it doesn't make any difference. synaptic says that all dependencies were resolved but I still can't reinstall gnome
[19:03] <cephess> second has anyone had issues with getting passive mode to work with vsftpd. I open the firewall passvie ports
[19:03] <darolu> Copperred, did you try with "sudo"?
[19:03] <Slart> dbook82: try "eject -r"
[19:03] <bombel> Does anyone know of an 8-bit music composer for ubuntu?
[19:03] <eremite> Copperred, use gksudo to access the folder via terminal, and then do yoru changes.
[19:03] <coz_> Copperred,  you can PM me
[19:03] <Copperred> im a real noob guys....so a
[19:03] <Copperred> thanks coz
[19:04] <dbook82> unable to eject, last error: input/output error
[19:04] <eremite> bombel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762621
[19:04] <Slart> dbook82: oh.. that's something new.. sure there isn't a cd in there?
[19:04] <ipatrol> blue-frog: Hello??
[19:04] <kop> "evince trap divide error" with little else worth while for an error msg ?! and of course I can't read pdf atm ...
[19:04] <dbook82> slart: yes i'm sure, i had a cd in there ejected and was going to put the live dvd in but it won't open
[19:05] <schiellerup> how do i reinstall Ubuntu, and gets Windows Vista back on my PC?
[19:05] <eremite> dbook82, have you tried typing eject into the terminal?
[19:05] <dbook82> eremite: yes
[19:05] <bombel> eremite, thanks !
[19:05] <eremite> dbook82, have you tried to use unmount to unmount the drive?
[19:06] <kop> schiellerup, is it just a boot loader issue ?
[19:06] <dbook82> eremite: no i haven't
[19:06] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. in my experience, once you start getting input/output errors things get better.. why not try a reboot.. see if that clears things up
[19:06] <schiellerup> i am not sure, i would try Ubuntu out, to check it out, but i more want Vista again
[19:06] <dbook82> slart: ok i shall return shortly
[19:06] <Slart> dbook82: sorry... "things don't get better"
[19:07] <schiellerup> but i can't reinstall Vista, because it says there is no more place on the harddisc...
[19:07] <kop> schiellerup, did you hose vista with an ubuntu load ?
[19:07] <schiellerup> i downloadet the Ubuntu.iso, and burned it over on a disc
[19:07] <lanzelloth> how come I'm not in /etc/sudoers ?
[19:07] <lanzelloth> wait nvm
[19:08] <Pici> lanzelloth: Because the group 'admin' is, and you're in that group
[19:08] <lanzelloth> Pici, I just realized that
[19:08] <eremite> dbook82,  unmount /media/cdrom or cdrom0
[19:08] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Hello?
[19:08] <blue-frog_> yes
[19:08] <Stargaze> schiellerup, check http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/vtc_ubuntu_training.html
[19:09] <MikeChelen> how can you tell if VLC and Mplayer are successfully using hardware video acceleration?
[19:09] <darolu> schiellerup, how did you install Ubuntu? did you use the entire disk?
[19:09] <kop> schiellerup,  if you attempted an ubuntu install and formated the remainder of the disc ext3 or 4 then M$ can't see it for all intents that part of the disc no longer exists as far as M$ is concerned
[19:09] <eremite> MikeChelen, what could you need hardware acceleration in VLC for?
[19:10] <kop> schiellerup,  you can run gparted to see if the ntfs partition still exists
[19:10] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Can you help me with my Linksys WUSB600N problem
[19:10] <blue-frog_> ipatrol tail -100 /var/log/syslog  and paste the result on pastebin.com
[19:10] <Resonate> Does anyone here have experience in shellcoding on Ubuntu?
[19:10] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: impossible
[19:10] <Slart> !anyone | Resonate
[19:10] <mlv> Who is on?
[19:10] <mlv> I haven't used IRC for 15 years. How can I see who is on?
[19:10] <ipatrol> It has no internet
[19:10] <schiellerup> what is gparted, and how do i do?
[19:10] <blue-frog_> ipatrol, no ethernet?
[19:11] <dbook82> slart: i'm back
[19:11] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: It once did, but not hete
[19:11] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. got a data cd in the drive now?
[19:11] <madjoe> Will .deb package for icons work for Lucid work on Karmic? http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid/
[19:11] <ipatrol> Im on an itouch
[19:11] <MikeChelen> eremite: playing high-def videos without maxing the cpu
[19:11] <kop> schiellerup,  are you using ubuntu now ?
[19:11] <operaatoors> schiellerup, its like partition magic on windows. you can edit your partitions
[19:11] <madjoe> Will .deb package for icons for Lucid work on Karmic? http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid/
[19:11] <Pici> madjoe: It should work fine.
[19:11] <dbook82> slart: ok put the ubuntu install dvd in
[19:11] <madjoe> arrrgh... I'm dyslecsic, sorry
[19:11] <wolter> hi, does anybody know how can I get a /dev/name for a specific partition?
[19:11] <MikeChelen> mlv: what irc client? in xchat the channel members appear on the right side
[19:11] <wolter> my gparted is not working
[19:12] <blue-frog_> ipatrol, http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579
[19:12] <lanzelloth> what's the default root password?
[19:12] <Pici> wolter: mount
[19:12] <Slart> lanzelloth: there is none
[19:12] <Pici> !root | lanzelloth
[19:12] <MikeChelen> !uuid | wolter
[19:12] <Myrtti> lanzelloth: there is no default root password.
[19:12] <knoxy> Hi.. Im trying to install ubuntu and in 29% of installation, the installation stop... I change the HD, memory... How can I do to fix it?
[19:12] <darolu> mlv, /who works for me
[19:12] <lanzelloth> all: ok thx
[19:12] <Slart> dbook82: ok.. do you see anything in /media/cdrom0 now?
[19:12] <wolter> thanks gus
[19:12] <madjoe> Pici: So, I can just update/edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list with the new path (since there is no path for Karmic anymore)?
[19:12] <dany2> hi all
[19:12] <MikeChelen> knoxy: try alternate install cd? also run mem test to be sure
[19:13] <dany2> is there a way to change the console keymap of grub?
[19:13] <dbook82> slart: wait one
[19:13] <knoxy> MikeChelen: Yes.. 2 cd's
[19:13] <kop> oh well :-/
[19:13] <rdb> How can I configure NetworkManager to automatically connect to a network? (Note: I'm not using nm-applet or any desktop environment)
[19:13] <knoxy> and 2 drives of cd's
[19:13] <dany2> I'm on sh:grub>
[19:13] <kop> "evince trap divide error" with little else worth while for an error msg ?! and of course I can't read pdf atm ...
[19:13] <dany2> I'm in the crap..
[19:13] <dany2> I have installed windows after linux
[19:13] <dany2> and now it's a mess shit
[19:14] <MikeChelen> !dualboot | dany2
[19:14] <Pici> madjoe: I'd be careful with packages that provide programs, but for art stuff you should be fine.
[19:14] <dbook82> slart: hmm home folder isn't wanting to open
[19:14] <dany2> there is no written about changing keymap
[19:14] <dany2> i have saw those links yet
[19:14] <Resonate> Shellcoding in C on Ubuntu appears to always result in a SEG fault, (SIGSEGV). I've disabled stack randomisation (randomize_va_space = 0), and ulimit -c is set to unlimited. I'm compiling with no stack protection, but even with it on, it always seg faults. Am I missing a stack protection, or does shellcoding not work on Ubuntu by default?
[19:15] <darolu> dany2, you can't change it at grub>
[19:15] <kop> schiellerup,  PM
[19:15] <madjoe> Pici: it's for icons only... what would the line in sources.list look like?
[19:15] <madjoe> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/ppa/lucid ./ #gericom@hummer
[19:15] <dbook82> slart: i'm going to reboot again
[19:15] <dany2> darolu: are you sure? I'm in the shit.. there si no way to write: =
[19:15] <madjoe> Pici: I'm not sure about the ./ part
[19:15] <Slart> dbook82: ok
[19:16] <darolu> dany2, no, you can't within grub, quit and change it on your cli or gui
[19:16] <dbook82> slart: as i was, ubuntu was being ridiculously slow
[19:16] <kop> the impatience of youth ...
[19:16] <bubbi> I am trying to run a program in the terminal and keep getting a "Killed" message back. I'm relatively new to Linux in general, so please bear with me :-)
[19:16] <kop> schiellerup,  PM
[19:17] <bubbi> I was therefore wondering if I am doing something wrong.
[19:17] <dbook82> slart: cdrom0 folder is still empty
[19:17] <nullie> bubbi, are you short on ram?
[19:17] <dany2> darolu : I can't, I have not access neither windows neither linux.. I have installed win after linux.. it's a mess
[19:17] <Slart> Resonate: isn't "shellcoding" just exploiting a weakness to get a shell? ie it can be all kinds of things.. hard to tell what might be causing the segfault
[19:17] <KB1JWQ> Can Ubuntu read HFS+ (MacOS filesystem) out of the box?
[19:18] <bubbi> nullie, I don't think so.. just a sec
[19:18] <darolu> dany2, are you using a LiveCD?
[19:18] <dany2> darolu : to reinstall grub yes
[19:18] <obscurant1st> is there any themes for ubuntu gnome, like quartz in kde?
[19:18] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. I'm googling about this.. haven't really found anything useful yet
[19:18] <dany2> darolu : now I have grub installed but there is only the console
[19:18] <Pici> madjoe: That should work, its weird that they call that a PPA though, since PPAs are a feature of Launchpad.
[19:18] <root__> hi
[19:19] <obscurant1st> also how can i check is there any error in my fstab?
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, if ram is limited and your program uses lots of it, it's probably OOM killer, check the logs, but I don't know which one. Probably /var/log/messages
[19:19] <llutz> KB1JWQ: CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS=m       (jaunty) it should
[19:19] <MrMist> Hi guys
[19:19] <genii> KB1JWQ: Needs package hfsplus, maybe hsfutils als  and then the module needs to be loaded
[19:19] <bubbi> nullie, I have 512 MB ram. It should be more than enough for the program (a Call of duty 4 server)
[19:19] <madjoe> Pici: lol yeah, it also confused me..
[19:19] <darolu> dany2, change your keymap in the LiveCD GUI, is easier
[19:19] <madjoe> Pici: thanks!
[19:19] <MrMist> Need a tip... I'm having problems getting cwiid to work with ubuntu
[19:19] <Resonate> Slart: It's just machine code, so it can really be used for anything, although in a lot of contexts, it is machine code designed to open a root shell through an exploit. In my case, I can't get any machinecode to run in Ubuntu, even though a lot of sites assure me it should work.
[19:19] <dbook82> slart: ok i'm still here
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, 512 is rather limited, check the logs for oom
[19:19] <nullie> bubbi, and top for free ram
[19:19] <KB1JWQ> Thanks llutz genii.
[19:20] <MrMist> I have cwiid working, but when I try to map the "A"-button as anything other than "btn_left" X i suddenly restarted... any ideas?
[19:20] <darolu> dany2, to fix your grub follow this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:20] <obscurant1st> how can i check is there any error in my fstab?
[19:20] <obscurant1st> something shows about fstab at every reboot, but before i get to read it, it goes
[19:21] <sylar_> join
[19:21] <sylar_> heu
[19:21] <sylar_> hey
[19:21] <darolu> obscurant1st, the most direct way to check your fstab for errors is reading the file itself; it is located at /etc/fstab
[19:21] <bubbi> nullie, Okay, its a Virtual machine, so I can add more ram on the fly - more or less..
[19:21] <Slart> Resonate: well.. vulnerabilities gets patched almost on a daily basis it seems.. perhaps they fixed this particular vulnerability.. or you've checked version numbers of the involved software?
[19:22] <dany2> darolu : i'll check the link thx
[19:22] <obscurant1st> darolu, http://pastie.org/874304 here is my fstab
[19:22] <Resonate> Slart: It isn't a vulnerability in this case, it's just executing machine code through C. It's the same as if I used execve on "/bin/sh".
[19:22] <darolu> dany2, np I think you were reading the wrong guide, good luck
[19:23] <Slart> Resonate: ah.. well that should work if I understand things correctly.. can't help you with specifics though
[19:24] <Resonate> Slart: Thanks anyway, I'll keep asking here in case someone happens to come by with experience. =/
[19:24] <dbook82> slart: put a different data disc in and it spun for a few seconds
[19:24] <darolu> obscurant1st, looks very default, no errors; double check your UUID's with "sudo blkid"
[19:25] <Slart> dbook82: but no files?
[19:25] <dbook82> slart: no, no files
[19:25] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: You installed build-essentials?
[19:26] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: And are you calling anything at compiletime that isn't in stdio.h?
[19:26] <casl> 9.10/karmic - unable to login via GUI -- click user name, then get "Unable to authenticate user"  -- in dmesg & syslog, found  gdm-session-worker reporting a segfault. http://www.pastie.org/874309
[19:26] <darolu> obscurant1st, you can also check the errors logs located at /var/log or with "dmesg"
[19:26] <obscurant1st> darolu, ok, let me check
[19:27] <llutz> obscurant1st: have you checked the UUIDs? last line missing "0" at then end
[19:27] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: Yup, installed build-essentials long ago, and I'm not calling any libraries.  Only using pointers, char and int really.
[19:27] <dbook82> slart: hmm typed eject -r and got that same input/output error, but pressing the eject button opens it up
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Can you pastebin an example of shellcode?
[19:28] <dragonwave> hey
[19:28] <tufos> ola
[19:28] <dragonwave> I have a question
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> !ask | dragonwave
[19:28] <Sloy> m2. xD
[19:28] <dragonwave> Has ubuntu 9.10 auto trim support or do you need to do that manual?
[19:28] <obscurant1st> darolu, yeah, the uuid was wrong for swap
[19:28] <Osfeone> hi everybody
[19:28] <tufos> oloa
[19:28] <Sloy> Why i have problems with a USB mouse?
[19:28] <obscurant1st> so thats wht was happening i think.
[19:28] <obscurant1st> and btw, how can i check if my swap is on?
[19:29] <Daisho> york105: well, somehow I managed to get it working again. rebooted, started in recovery mode and typed "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd" and started up the GUI again
[19:29] <llutz> obscurant1st: free -m
[19:29] <KB1JWQ> dragonwave: It's in 2.6.33
[19:29] <phisher1> or just run top
[19:29] <tufos> ola soi chica
[19:29] <Osfeone> i wanna system remember my password and dont ask again how can i do that
[19:29] <darolu> obscurant1st, yeah it happens when  you repartitionate the hard drive
[19:29] <Daisho> york105: thank for getting me started in the right direction  :)
[19:29] <Sloy> i need use mouse on my laptop : /
[19:29] <obiwan_> hi guys
[19:29] <york105> Daishu, no problem, happy to be of assitance
[19:29] <Sloy> my keyboard and touchpadk working only if i push DEL on start. : o
[19:29] <Osfeone> can anyone hear me
[19:30] <Osfeone> i wanna system remember my password and dont ask again how can i do that
[19:30] <obscurant1st> llutz, http://pastie.org/874317 this is what it gave me
[19:30] <obscurant1st> darolu, thx
[19:30] <obiwan_> does anybody have iphone?
[19:30] <KB1JWQ> !anybody | obiwan_
[19:30] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, i hv ipod touch
[19:30] <obiwan_> haha ok sry
[19:30] <llutz> obscurant1st: sudo swapon -a
[19:30] <obiwan_> obscurant1st: do you use syncing in linux?
[19:30] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: It's from Shell Coder's Handbook if you know it. http://pastebin.com/5jLpxjM9
[19:30] <obiwan_> libgpod and stuff
[19:30] <dragonwave> So i have to wait to use ubuntu on an ssd?
[19:30] <darolu> obscurant1st, np, if your swap is not on right now, just reboot (is the easier way) or do what llutz just told you
[19:31] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Stand by, attempting it here.
[19:31] <obscurant1st> darolu, ok,
[19:31] <llutz> darolu: reboot? no way
[19:31] <dbook82> slart: i've tried a few other data discs and still nothing
[19:31] <obscurant1st> llutz, ok, so from nxt time onwards it will get automatically on when i reboot my system
[19:31] <Sloy> chow i can fix mouse?
[19:31] <darolu> llutz, your way works too =)
[19:31] <obscurant1st> ?
[19:31] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, yeah, i sync
[19:31] <obscurant1st> but using VBox+winXP+itunes
[19:31] <llutz> darolu: sure it does, no need to reboot
[19:32] <obiwan_> oh ok
[19:32] <bubbi> nullie, it seems that the "problems" have disappeared.. now, when I run the server, it runs fine.. weird thing.. I must have done something differently somehow :-) Thank you for your help!
[19:32] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Works correctly here.
[19:32] <obiwan_> obscurant1st: if i get to work this way ill come back and tell ya
[19:32] <obiwan_> that way you dont need all that htings
[19:32] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: What compiling options did you use?
[19:32] <obscurant1st> obiwan_, this will work
[19:33] <obiwan_> hehhe
[19:33] <MikeChelen> anyone know what video programs can play .mkv with hardware acceleration?
[19:33] <obiwan_> mplayer? im not sure but that plays everything xd
[19:33] <obscurant1st> coz i was trying with lots of syncing tools and audio players in ubuntu for syncing it, i didnt have any luck or easy way for doing it, so i ended up using this method
[19:33] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: None.  gcc shellcode.c, throws a warning about casting from a pointer to an integer of differing size at line 13.
[19:33] <darolu> MikeChelen, mplayer, read "man mplayer" to see all the options
[19:33] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Running the resulting binary completes successfully; you have a hosed gcc maybe?
[19:33] <nullie> MikeChelen, xmbc can use vdpau
[19:34] <mark__> hi guys how do i do the cool spin the desktop around in a square
[19:34] <obiwan_> xd i know i know obscurant1st its so hard for us linuxeros but ill keep trying
[19:34] <obiwan_> ok got to go byeeeeeee
[19:34] <dbook82> slart: did i lose ya?
[19:35] <Slart> dbook82: I still haven't found anything useful.. lots of people with cdrom problems.. but it's about game cd's and playing movie dvd's
[19:35] <Slart> dbook82: nope.. still her
[19:35] <arzonista> pls explain why is it that all my IM is not working. Pls help me,im a new user of ubuntu 9.04
[19:35] <darolu> mark__, with compiz
[19:35] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: This is weird. I reinstalled GCC, and it seems to work for that one now, so thanks. There is one more that still seg_faults, if you're not busy?
[19:36] <dbook82> slart: lol ok just checking. i've tried some bought game cds, burnt games cds, bought music cd's and the live dvd for ubuntu i burnt
[19:36] <darolu> !compiz > mark__
[19:36] <Myrtti> arzonista: your im is not working is not too helpful description of your problem. Which protocols don't work?
[19:36] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Sure.
[19:36] <MikeChelen> obiwan_, darolu: mplayer plays it but uses 100% cpu
[19:37] <dbook82> slart: if i had hair i'd pull it out
[19:37] <Resonate> KBWJWQ: http://pastebin.com/fuBPdfEf
[19:37] <arzonista> myrtti:yahoo.
[19:37] <dragonwave> Can i instal ubuntu than on an ssd without problems because it dousn't support trim command
[19:37] <MikeChelen> nullie: ok will try that, would like to find something in ubuntu repos
[19:37] <mark__> ok
[19:37] <t_corr2> Hi, all. I'm running Ubuntu Server 9.10 and I'm trying to figure out the "correct" way to disable printing the motd on login. I believe I found that removing the pam_motd line from /etc/pam.d/login will do it, but I've been trying to figure out what exactly updates the /etc/motd file
[19:38] <Myrtti> arzonista: how does it not work? does the application crash? can you log in? what doesn't work?
[19:38] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: http://pastebin.com/fuBPdfEf
[19:38] <darolu> MikeChelen, read all mplayer documentation if you want to play your file using specific options
[19:38] <t_corr2> There do not seem to be any cron scripts under /etc/cron.* which do it ... so I'm at a loss
[19:38] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: And what does this do?
[19:38] <trijntje> is there an easy way to record the output of your normal sound? Without an external microphone
[19:38] <arzonista> myrtti.i cant log in
[19:40] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
[19:40] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: I just realised how dangerous it would be if I didn't explain it first, especially with that kind of a name. It's designed to guess program offsets between the ESP and the first instruction of the shellcode.
[19:40] <sab1999> hi there!
[19:41] <sab1999> who speak english?
[19:41] <darolu> trijntje, how to do it depends on the software you are using, but the general idea is to change the "recording source" from "input" to "output" channel.
[19:41] <Xpistos|work> can anyone direct me to a site that can help with video conversions?
[19:41] <jhattara> can i view PDF comments in Jaunty ?
[19:41] <sab1999> bueno pues hola -.-"
[19:41] <t_corr2> okay, shorter now: in Ubuntu Server 9.10, what is responsible for updating the /etc/motd file? Is there a cron script? Daemon? I can't find it.
[19:41] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Segfaults on multiple systems; it's a code issue, not a Ubuntu issue.
[19:41] <Pici> t_corr2: Take a look at the manpage for motd.tail, it explains the process.
[19:42] <t_corr2> Pici: Oh boy. thanks.
[19:42] <darolu> !ask | sab1999
[19:42] <trijntje> darolu: any program you know that can do that? I tryd the defauld soundrecorder but it doesnt seem to have ANY options
[19:42] <sab1999> que os den a todos wajajaja muajajaja xD es broma ¬¬" xD bueh tios by tios bye xD
[19:42] <Myrtti> arzonista: the version of pidgin jaunty ships is old and isn't compatible with yahoo servers anymore
[19:42] <Myrtti> !es | sab1999
[19:42] <Myrtti> meh
[19:42] <arzonista> Myrtti:pls help with my problem
[19:42] <steve1967> If I am running a hardware firewall do I need to install and run firestarter??
[19:43] <hogfoot> hi.  i need to rsync over ssh with a key pair using the www-data user...but since it's a psudo user there is no shell to add a keypair to.  any ideas?  is it safe to make www-data a full account with home dir?
[19:43] <Myrtti> arzonista: upgrade either your ubuntu or pidgin.
[19:43] <wolter> what options should I use if i want every user to be able to unmount?
[19:43] <hoonches> is virus scanner or clam av better?
[19:44] <hoonches> is virus scanner or scanner better?
[19:44] <arzonista> Myrtti:advice pls,how to upgrade it?
[19:44] <eremite> !best | hoonches
[19:44] <darolu> trijntje, I heard Audacity is very good
[19:44] <steve1967> you dont need to run a virus scanner except to verify that a file you are sending a windows user is clean
[19:44] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: Thanks, I assume I've forgotten to change an aspect of it before using it, as I doubt the code by itself is at error.
[19:44] <t_corr2> Pici: it seems like it is running more frequently than just on boot. for instance, the available updates keeps updating. i see there are scripts under /etc/update-motd.d/ but i don't know what runs them
[19:45] <hamzaatova3> my computer became slow since the last update--- why??????
[19:45] <darolu> trijntje, this guide should work for you (applies to gnome or other DE): http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/howto-record-soundcard-output-with-audacity-in-kde/
[19:45] <gnychis> I am trying to remove a file, that I am the owner of, but I am not in the group it belongs to... "-rwxrwxrwx 1 gnychis dp  29M 2007-03-12 03:31 core-full.2005.02.02.15.45.gz-db" ... whenever i try to rm it, it says permission died
[19:45] <MikeChelen> hamzaatova3: look at system monitor to see if something uses alot of memory or cpu?
[19:45] <harisund> How do I setup NetworkManager to recognize my cell phone as a modem through Bluetooth? There's a broadband option, but I don't see how bluetooth can be brought into the picture
[19:45] <KB1JWQ> Resonate: Yeah, it blows up on BSD as well as Linux.
[19:47] <trijntje> darolu: thanks a lot!
[19:47] <Vigo> Is there an existing script to flush DNS and History and stuff at Log Off or would I have to figure out and write the code to do that?
[19:47] <darolu> gnychis, try with "sudo rm" or change the group with "sudo chown :yourgrup filename"
[19:47] <sunmao> hi
[19:47] <sunmao> is there anyone u use sheevaplug?
[19:47] <arzonista> myrtti:pls help me...how can i upgrade it?
[19:48] <hamzaatova3> MikeChelen, how do i open the sys mon?
[19:48] <dbook82> slart: still nothing?
[19:49] <Slart> dbook82: nope.. I'm searching the ubuntu forums now.. but it's just more dvd playing problems it seems
[19:49] <KB1JWQ> arzonista: Synaptic, or if you prefer command line, sudo apt-get update; sudo  apt-get upgrade
[19:50] <MikeChelen> hamzaatova3: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[19:50] <dbook82> slart: i've made my post on the ubuntu forums today...
[19:50] <Resonate> KB1JWQ: I found the website of the coder SCH got it off initially, and his/her code runs perfectly, but theirs does not. Not quite sure why not, but it's all solved now. Thanks for your help.
[19:50] <Vigo> KB1JWQ: Does that also require a key update?
[19:51] <nishanth> hey can someone tell me how i can degrade to jaunty jackalope from lucid lynx?
[19:51] <KB1JWQ> Vigo: A key update?
[19:51] <arzonista> KBLJWQ;thank you,ill try it now.
[19:52] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. I don't think I've seen it..
[19:52] <Vigo> KB1JWQ: Some packages require a new Key , I just tossed that in for observation.
[19:52] <dbook82> slart: its here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8982958#post8982958
[19:53] <Stargaze> !lucid| nishanth
[19:54] <Slart> dbook82: hmm.. no answers so far.. lots of good info in that post.. perhaps someone have run into this before and knows how to fix it
[19:54] <blades> hello
[19:54] <harisund> Does anyone have any bluetooth experience here? I am trying to connect to my cell phone, and I am being forced to enter a passcode on both devices. How do I set it up in such a way that Ubuntu always uses a constant pin so I only have to enter it on my cell phone?
[19:54] <gogeta> ubuntu relly needs to upgrade its repos
[19:54] <trijntje> !hi
[19:55] <gogeta> flightgear 2.0 is out and only 1.9.1 is in the repos making me compile it :(
[19:55] <dbook82> slart: thats what i'm hoping, i figured that if i put what info i've gotten from the terminal, from suggestions given to me here, it might help a bit more
[19:57] <darolu> dbook82: what does "sudo lshw" prints?
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, Ubuntu does not use a "rolling release" system (so packages are not version updated during a release - Firefox 3.6 as another example), you could check if a PPA contains the newer version.
[19:57] <Kuki> hi can someone help me to mount my external hard drive?
[19:58] <clustermagnet> guys, awful awful experience so far with ubuntu
[19:58] <Kuki> I only get an error mesage
[19:58] <clustermagnet> pulseaudio not working :(
[19:58] <clustermagnet> can someone plz help?
[19:58] <Vigo> !mount | Kuki
[19:58] <OerHeks> sudo lshw prints all hardware.
[19:58] <darolu> !ask | clustermagnet
[19:58] <clustermagnet> darolu: pardon
[19:58] <harisund> Every time I boot my system up I get a "Enter password for default keyring to unlock" <-- How do I remove that prompt? I don't want to use a keyring or whatever ..
[19:58] <Kuki> Vigo: I tried!
[19:59] <mowe> harisund: i think you can setup blueman to remember the phone as a friend or something
[19:59] <Kuki> but then I get an error
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> harisund, do you have auto-login turned on?
[19:59] <darolu> harisund, is Ubuntu One starting at boot?
[19:59] <dbook82> slart: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/396902/
[19:59] <Kuki> and it says that it cannot be mounted
[19:59] <elm669> 0.
[19:59] <harisund> darolu: No, this prompt is for NetworkManager, and ZykoticK9 yes I believe so
[19:59] <Nollog> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:59] <Kuki> so what shall I do now?
[19:59] <sam555> hello all!
[19:59] <Losha> clustermagnet: that's pretty much the commonest complaint I see here on #ubuntu. I personally had good luck removing pulseaudio altogether, though I know people for whom this didn't work either: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[19:59] <Nollog> What did I do wrong?
[19:59] <JanSch> lxde suddenly stopped to open files, if i doubleclick any file (pdf, jpeg) on the desktop it asks me with what to open
[19:59] <sam555> anyone know how to install ntfs prog on ubuntu 9.10
[20:00] <JanSch> any ideas about that?
[20:00] <clustermagnet> Losha: really :(
[20:00] <clustermagnet> Losha: so apt-get remove the bastard huh?
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> harisund, if you turn autologin OFF then the keyright password won't come up - this is a security feature.  But the solution is to type your password in once, where is up to you.
[20:00] <gogeta> sam555 ubuntu 9.10 can do ntfs out of the box
[20:00] <duffydack> sam555, sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[20:00] <Vigo> Kuki: External HDD , does it have multiple Parts/Slices/exts or MBR stuff that could cause it not to be recognized?
[20:00] <blades> I recently switched to ubuntu 9 via wubi... My intention is to try my wireless card in monitoring mode as I sucessfully did on win xp but with the lack of few features... So my first problem is I manage to login as root (which way is the best???) via terminal sudo -s but I still don't have enough permissions to write in the usr folder, and I try to compile a driver form the $make command after using cd command and nothing happens, any good tuto
[20:00] <blades> rials about this, thanks in advance
[20:00]  * r0dzilla is trying to get his hp network scanner (hplip) to work with the simple scan utility
[20:00] <falstaff> Hello, is there an "event" when a disk is mounted? I use luks with nautilus (klick on it and then encrypt it), and would like to start rsync daemon after I unlocked the partition....
[20:00] <darolu> Nollog, type "sudo lshw" (lowercase L)
[20:00] <eremite> clustermagnet, yes, or aptitude instead of apt-get
[20:00] <r0dzilla> or do I need to use xsane instead of simple scan for network hp scanner
[20:00] <duffydack> but yes, should be installed by def.
[20:01] <Losha> clustermagnet: follow the web page, skip the alsagui stuff if you don't have it on your version, & try the rest. Like I said, it worked for me and a few other people, and didn't work for others...
[20:01] <Kuki> vigo: what is MBR?
[20:01] <elm669> Yea I have yet to get pulse audio working either, doesn't throw any errors, just doesn't work.
[20:01] <dbook82> kuki: Master Boot Record
[20:01] <Nollog> darolu: That's what I typed.
[20:01] <Losha> dbook82: you have amazing patience. Just a thought, you might have better luck using 8.04 LTS if that's a possibility for you...
[20:02] <Kuki> dbook82: I don't know! where do I find out?
[20:02] <DF5JT> Does anyone have an Intel HDA sound card running with pulse audio?
[20:02] <dbook82> slart: lol thats what i'm told, can i downgrade within ubuntu?
[20:02] <DF5JT> aplay -l shows no devices.
[20:02] <djura-san> hello
[20:02] <Vigo> Kuki: MBR> Master Boot Record
[20:02] <Kuki> I just bought the harddive newly so I could save my data from windows, and then install ubuntu an put the data back on my computer
[20:02] <gogeta> dsfjt yep works on my eee
[20:02] <elm669> hda intel here: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
[20:02] <dbook82> kuki: as far as i know MBR is Master Boot Record
[20:03] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I'm interested in upgrading rsyslodg to latest version on my ubuntu 9.10 but can't seem to make it work on a lab env. It compiled and runs but no logs are generated on files. any tips ?
[20:03] <Losha> dbook82: no, your only option would be a from-scratch install, but before you do that, I'd just try the 8.04 live cd and see if you it works any better with your cdrom...
[20:03] <DF5JT> Lspci shows the device
[20:03] <DF5JT> but pulse audio doesn't see it
[20:03] <Vigo> Kuki: Ok, then if you put Windows on it first, that is in the MBR, let me look around some.
[20:04] <dbook82> losha: ok... Thanks for the help guys. i've gotta get to class, so I'll be back on later
[20:04] <Lucid_33> hi everyone
[20:04] <Kuki> vigo: I killed windows
[20:04] <darolu> blades, using root is not recommended, you should use "sudo" only, "sudo -i" gets you root access, did you install the "build-essential" package? make comes with it.
[20:04] <djura-san> how to enable compiz that is actually working and with win decorations? I Have geforce 4 ti with nvidia 96.xx drivesr (from ubuntu repo) and i can use them. Transparent terminal is not working, notifications are white etc...
[20:04] <Kuki> vigo: my lap-top is all ubuntu now (since 2 days)
[20:05] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: i followed http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 but it still wont work
[20:05] <darolu> Nollog, lshw is very common, it should work without sudo too, try "lshw" only
[20:05] <Vigo> Kuki: But the MBR should remain, or does. http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=mbr
[20:05] <Kuki> by the way I tried to mout a USB-stik: that worked and was no problem
[20:05] <ipatrol> I did the modprobe but its not working
[20:05] <Losha> JPZ: doesn't it have a debugging mode or something? Check its man page...
[20:06] <clustermagnet> guys, thanks for help, i've removed pulseaudio... how do i tell the system to re-detect my sound card?
[20:06] <clustermagnet> i think i've mucked enough with this ... need a completere-configure of sound system
[20:06] <blades> darolu the card isn't supported by default, it seems cause it was connected but not installed, and there is no option in the driver panel too like for the vga somethimes for instance... I did not setup a root pass... so I tried at login screen root and no pass and that wont work, 2 yrs ago I tried fedora and managed sucesfully to login as root...
[20:06] <Alan502> i just downloaded a .patch file for bitlbee, how do i apply it?
[20:06] <ipatrol> blue-frog_: Hello??
[20:06] <djura-san> how to enable compiz that is actually working and with win decorations? I Have geforce 4 ti with nvidia 96.xx drivesr (from ubuntu repo) and i can use them. Transparent terminal is not working, notifications are white etc...
[20:06] <harisund> Alan502: You might have to download the source and patch it with your patch file, and recompile the applicatin
[20:06] <Nollog> It's l (EL) s (ES) h (HAY-CH) w (DOUBLE-U) right?
[20:07] <Vigo> Alan502: What was the source., i.e. where did the deb or pkg come from?
[20:07] <Losha> clustermagnet: reboot, per the web page. Then run alsamixer and make sure the playback stuff is unmuted...
[20:07] <Alan502> harisund, copy-paste the contents of the file?
[20:07] <JPZ> Losha, it does "-d" it generates a masssive amount of repeated logs. I tried searching on google for it but came up empty. Do you think there will be an update from rep for Rsyslog? or will it only be upgraded on ubuntu's next release.
[20:07] <Alan502> Vigo, i installed bitlbee from synaptic
[20:07] <Kuki> so vigo: what do you want me to find out about the MBR?
[20:07] <Stargaze> still no codename for Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:08] <clustermagnet> Losha: cna you please repaste the link?  (in a screen session)
[20:08] <Vigo> Alan502: Should just install correctly then
[20:08] <Losha> clustermagnet: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[20:08] <Alan502> Vigo, but i downloaded the patch separately.... not from synaptic
[20:08] <darolu> blades, it is not recommended to log in as root, but if you absolutelly need it, go to System - Admin - Users & Group and enable it
[20:08] <djura-san> oh crad
[20:08] <clustermagnet> Losha: thank you!!! :)
[20:08] <Vigo> Kuki: See if the Windows or something is still active, that page I linked from the forums should help.
[20:09] <djura-san> can somebody just answer me this: do i need kernel headers for nvidia binary drivers?
[20:09] <djura-san> how do you call that packages in ubuntu?
[20:09] <Alan502> Vigo, how should i "install" the patch?
[20:09] <root__> no
[20:09] <ipatrol> can someone help me? I did http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 but it still wont work
[20:09] <Losha> JPZ: rsyslog has a web page and archived mailing lists. I would start there if you're serious...
[20:09] <sam555> duffydack: it said it couldn't find dependancy packages
[20:10] <harisund> What is SeaHorse Daemon? What does it do?
[20:10] <markdd> anyone need help pm me
[20:10] <Vigo> Alan502: Ah, ok, that is why I asked what was the source, I would not. I would look for the correct .deb or pkg that works or is designed to work with the current or running kernel.
[20:10] <JPZ> Losha, been there as well. Well thanks anyways I'll see what else I can do to figure it out.
[20:10] <Losha> djura-san: I think you do, but I don't remember for sure. What kernel are you running (uname -a)
[20:11] <Alan502> Vigo, for bitlbee? i don't think bitlbee has something to do with the kernel
[20:11] <djura-san> the latest one. i think it's 2.6.31.20
[20:11] <djura-san> let me check
[20:11] <blades> darolu, tnx... what about the permissions to write in the users/src folder and which is the correct way to install a driver via the make and make install commands, I already did that but nothing happend...
[20:11] <ipatrol> Anyone??
[20:11] <Vigo> Alan502: Versions matter, some stuff works on ### and some does not, yet. or never will.
 for ubunt 9.10 yes 2.6.31.20
[20:12] <Losha> JPZ: I notice on the web page that Tom Bergfeld asks for feedback. He might want to know that it doesn't work for you...
[20:12] <djura-san> 2.6.31.20-generic :)
[20:12] <ipatrol> Im quite exaserbated
[20:12] <ipatrol> Please
[20:12] <tuxuser> Hi
[20:12] <Alan502> Vigo, i'm looking in synaptic, but can't find the patch i downloaded
[20:12] <thopiekar> I'm a member of the Canola project and atm almost the only person working on Canola.. I need more people here at #canola to improve the code.. the player is great and many plugins are available.. please help. the developters that where working on it in the past were paied to work on it - now they have other priorities so - we need you!
[20:13] <Losha> djura-san: run apt-cache search  2.6.31.20 | egrep headers and choose the one that matches your kernel
[20:13] <tuxuser> I've encoutered a bug in 9.10: the mouse pointer freezes with no apparent reason.
[20:13] <guntbert> !ot | thopiekar
[20:13] <tuxuser> I've found that a solution (workaround) is to modprobe -r psmouse and modprobe psmouse
[20:13] <thopiekar> sorry guntbert
[20:13] <Vigo> Alan502: That is where I was headed, it may not work with the version. Let me look at the deb packages.
[20:14] <tuxuser> Searching launchpad didn't return any result. Has anyone seen this behaviour ? Thanks
[20:14] <Stargaze> ipatrol, WUSB600N is that W USB? if it's USB, try sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[20:14] <djura-san> Losha: thank you. I will update my drivers. Tell me how do i enter runlevel 3 from terminal? "telinit 3" is not working
 do u have ati card?
[20:14] <hp> hi
[20:14] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Impossible, no net
[20:14] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I did http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579
[20:14] <Alan502> Vigo, ok thanks
[20:14] <ipatrol> Fail
[20:15] <darolu> blackxored, how to compile and install depends on what you are trying to install, read the README or INSTALL files, if theya re not present go to wherever you got the sources and read the documentation; don't change /usr/src permissions
[20:15] <Vigo> Alan502: What version Ubuntu are you using now?
[20:15] <Stargaze> ipatrol, i read it -- do you want wireless or ethernet?
[20:15] <Losha> djura-san: that doesn't work on ubuntu. You have to stop gdm instead. I think you do it from a terminal by typing: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:15] <tuxuser> Lucid_33: No, it's a toshiba A100 with intel 945 (exact lspci line is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03))
[20:15] <Alan502> Vigo, 9.10
[20:15] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Wireless
[20:15] <ipatrol> Sg
[20:15] <ipatrol> t
[20:15] <WanteD> mipconfig
[20:15] <deuz> My sound doesn't work with both like youtube and vlc any suggestions?
[20:16] <deuz> i mean
[20:16] <blackxored> darolu, what are you talking me about???
[20:16] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I have syslog right in front of me
[20:16] <deuz> when for example vlc is on i cant get sound from youtube wihtout restarting
[20:16] <Stargaze> ipatrol, try ethernet first, it's easier to look for a solution when your troubled pc is online
[20:16] <Vigo> Alan502: Here is the BIG list. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and here is 9.10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ But look at the Big List because it may be a backport.
[20:16] <deuz> on ubuntu 8.04
[20:16] <darolu> blackxored, sorry wrong name (I use tab-completion)
[20:16] <guntbert> !enter | deuz
[20:16] <ipatrol> Stargaze: The device only has USB ports
[20:17] <blackxored> darolu, I assumed that, not a big deal
[20:17] <darolu> blades,  how to compile and install depends on what you are trying to install, read the README or INSTALL files, if theya re not present go to wherever you got the sources and read the documentation; don't change /usr/src permissions
[20:17] <Stargaze> ipatrol, can you not use a wired USB connection?
[20:17] <Alan502> Vigo, ah, ok thanks; i'll give it a look
[20:17] <casl> 9.10/karmic - unable to login via GUI -- click user name, then get "Unable to authenticate user"  -- in dmesg & syslog, found  gdm-session-worker reporting a segfault. http://www.pastie.org/874309  -- anyone?
[20:17] <ipatrol> Stargaze: I dont have one at all
[20:17] <Vigo> Alan502: You are very welcome, I am still looking for that package though.
[20:18] <Daisho> hey, guys, can anyone tell me how to get the shutdown applet in the upper right corner to appear?
[20:18] <Trek> Daisho: did you delete it?
[20:18] <Alan502> Vigo, i don't think it's on the repositories, it's just a patch
[20:18] <Stargaze> ipatrol, my advice is to get a USB cabe first and use that to go online, then try to fix your wireless connection
[20:18] <Alan502> :(
[20:18] <Stargaze> *cabe = cable
[20:19] <Alan502> Vigo, i can just find other plugins, but not exactly the one i am looking for
[20:19] <ipatrol> Stargaze: "Activation (wlan0): Acess point 'OpenPuerta' has security, but secrets are requested
[20:19] <Stargaze> ipatrol, see if iwlist helps
[20:19] <tuxuser> Daisho: on my 9.10 I just right-click on the top bar => add to panel => Shutdown (or whatever it's called, I'm on and Italian desktop) HTH
[20:19] <Vigo> Alan502: Is it a deb?
[20:19] <resno> any help on getting beep to work?
[20:19] <bastid_raZor> !panels | Daisho .. this may help
[20:19] <Daisho> Trek: I don't know. I fixed an issue with the toolbars not showing and now the applet is gone
[20:20] <Trek> Daisho, what version of Ubu
[20:20] <deuz> Im having some sound issues, I can't get sound from youtube while vlc is active and vice versa. Any suggestions. i'm on ubuntu 8.04
[20:20] <ipatrol> Stargaze: iwlist [what?]
[20:20] <Alan502> Vigo, the ones i found where debs, yes, and they are on synaptic too. The one i downloaded is a .patch
[20:20] <Daisho> Trek: 9.10 64-bit
[20:20] <Stargaze> ipatrol, try some options
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:21] <ipatrol> Stargaze: which?
[20:21] <beilabs> Hey guys, I'm experience a brute force attack, is there a way I can use IP tables to block an IP on a port 80?
[20:21] <Stargaze> ipatrol, see which option can be of interest to you
[20:21] <Daisho> I guess there's some problem with fast-user-switch-applet but I can't install it
[20:22] <ipatrol> I dont know, none
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beilabs: sure, just block all connections on the port
[20:22] <metaperl[A]> is there a dpkg option to install all dependancies for a .deb file you are trying to install?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | beilabs
[20:22] <beilabs> ActionParsnip, just on the one IP?
[20:22] <ipatrol> Stargaze: Do you really understand this?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beilabs: sure
[20:22] <Stargaze> ipatrol, in that case, i stick to my advice
[20:22] <tuxuser> beilabs: try something similar to: iptables -I INPUT 1 --src $offending_ip -j DROP
[20:23] <ipatrol> Any other bright ideas anyone?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: sup?
[20:23] <Daisho> ubotto: when I use that command I get an error: <<A problem has occurred..."OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet">>
[20:23] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: I tried http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Adapters&thread.id=26579 and it failed again, with other networks too
[20:23] <Kuki> vigo: well most of the theads say to redo the MRB with a Windows-CD. But do I really want that? And why I need to see if there's still some Windows aktive? Sorry for these stupid questions, but I still didn't quite unterstand what the MBR ist good for, or what the problem ob a missing MBR is... :-(
[20:24] <tuxuser> beilabs: sorry, I misunderstood. A more appropriate command is: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP
[20:24] <conb123> Hiya I am having a little bit of trouble with compiz, I created a profile containing my preferred compiz configuration in ccsm and now when I reboot compiz is disabled, I switch it back on using system > preferences > appearance but it has switched back to default settings, even when I switch to the profile I made it is still default settings, do I need to add compiz --replace to startup? Or is that an old necessity?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: does it compile ok?
[20:24] <guntbert> Daisho: ubottu is our friendly bot :-))
[20:24] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Yes
[20:24] <Vigo> Alan502: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=71031341 That is the Forum , still looking
[20:24] <Daisho> well, I never  :)
[20:24] <ipatrol> Let me paste something
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> conb123: do you have 3D asccelleration setup?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> conb123: if you press ALT+F2 and type: compiz --replace     does it all enable?
[20:25] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Yup I got it all working fine before, rotate cuve was working just all resets after reboot
[20:25] <tuxuser> Daisho: have you tried re-adding the shutdown apple as I suggested ? Did it persist or does it loose it ?
[20:26] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: /var/log/syslog/ "Activation (wlan0): Access point 'OpenPuerta' has security, but secrets are requested"
[20:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: After I set it again everything works fine, I am using proprietary ati drivers on a radeon hd 5750 by the way
[20:26] <Alan502> Vigo, thanks, i hope i can find something about the bitlbee msn patch i'm looking for
[20:26] <Kuki> vigo: if I start a windows CD wont that kill my ubuntu?
[20:26] <Vigo> Kuki: If is a dual boot system, or has a choice of OSs, then the Windows MBR and then the Brub or Lilo loader will have to be configured.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: then add a startup entry to run the command, all done
[20:26] <Daisho> tuxuser: when I add it like that I only get a shutdown icon. I would like to have an entire tab in the upper right corner, next to the clock.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: have you websearched the error?
[20:27] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Oh ok then awesome, it's just last time I had compiz working and i didn't need to add that command it did everything automatically
[20:27] <Vigo> Alan502: You are very welcome, I hope that Forum page helps.
[20:27] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Repeatedly
[20:27] <Kuki> vigo: well in windows I had "2" hard drives...
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> conb123: thats all i can suggest. personally i dont use compiz at all
[20:27] <Kuki> but now I have only one
[20:27] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks for all your help :D
[20:27] <Kuki> vigo: is that the problem?
[20:28] <Kuki> does that have to do something with MBR?
[20:28] <JanSch> hi, my lxde suddenly stopped to open files, if i doubleclick any file (pdf, jpeg) on the desktop it asks me with what to open
[20:28] <Vigo> Kuki: Right, partitions, or whatever, the Grub loaded may need updating, still searching for that solution .
[20:29] <Signal360> anybody know how to install the mysql connector/c on ubuntu?
[20:29] <BrixSat> hello
[20:29] <Signal360> need it for compiling php5.
[20:29] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/
[20:29] <jrib> Signal360: php5 is in the repositories, no need to compile
[20:29] <jrib> !lamp > Signal360
[20:29] <Nollog> compiling would make it go a little faster surely.
[20:29] <Signal360> oh jesus.
[20:29] <Vigo> Kuki: This may be the one, or close: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740221&highlight=update+grub
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: Have you tried changing the channel on the home router ? sometimes interference stops it connecting. Changing the channel oftrn works according to: http://forums.opensuse.org/network-internet/wireless/394209-cant-connect-my-wpa2-network-2.html
[20:29] <tuxuser> Daisho: ok, so you have to add the indicator-applet-session. I don't have the exact name in front of me, but it should be something like session indicator
[20:29] <Signal360> :<
[20:30] <Signal360> i never knew about lamp.
[20:30] <dunya> good evening
[20:30] <pokoko222> guys recommend me a good personal wiki that does not require web server, for ubuntu
[20:30] <Signal360> oh well.
[20:30] <JanSch> pokoko222: wiki on a stick
[20:30] <pokoko222> what?
[20:30] <dunya> oh this interface is weird
[20:31] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Every other non-nix computer works
[20:31] <dunya> lol
[20:31] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/  where can i list the soundcards»
[20:31] <Trek> ipatrol: is it possible your router is denying Linux connections?
[20:31] <BrixSat> i have no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 :/  where can i list the soundcards?
[20:31] <darolu> pokoko222, http://stickwiki.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <dunya> nix haters in a nix chat what ever will they think of next
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: seems wicd is a way forward, try installing it instead of networkmanager
[20:31] <tuxuser> pokoko222: http://stickwiki.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <ipatrol> Trek: Why?
[20:31] <Vigo> BrixSat: Ubuntu Hardware?
[20:31] <Stargaze> BrixSat, type sudo lshw -html > hardware.html, then open hardware.html
[20:32] <eremite> BrixSat, try adjusting the levesl by typing alsamixer into a terminal and using your keyboard arrow move the volume levels up.
[20:32] <blades> Compile the driver sources:
[20:32] <blades>   $ make
[20:32] <blades>   3. Install the driver (as root):
[20:32] <blades>    # make install    that is meant to use with aircrack but when I asked on aircrack channel they "sent" me here lol
[20:32] <FloodBot4> blades: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <faron> okay everybody yesterday I installed vers 10.1 d51 shockwave flashplayer by way of a tarball unpack install.Now,I would like to uninstall this but,for some reason I am being told by the terminal when I try to remove it that way that there is no such file/directory.Anybody have any ideas as to how I can uninsatll this thing ?
[20:32] <Trek> ipatrol: some routers and things dont like nix
[20:32] <dunya> brix just go to the ubuntu help page if you cant follow that it might not work that great you have this so you should have sound
[20:32] <Trek> !pastebin | blades
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | faron
[20:32] <darolu> BrixSat, open a terminal and type: lspci | grep audio
[20:32] <jrib> blades: aircrack is in the repositories
[20:32] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: I really need a quick answer or ill have to install a proprietary system
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: if it works dude go for it
[20:33] <ipatrol> Trek: Would linksys do that on purpose?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> faron: copy the .so file to your plugins folder
[20:33] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: but itdoesnt work
[20:33] <Trek> ipatrol: not sure, might be a glitch in the hardware's files, but i'm not super-familiar with Linksys
[20:33] <Vigo> BrixSat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport That is the link
[20:33] <ipatrol> Im running out of options here
[20:33] <dunya> cant make multi lines
[20:33] <Mousey> halp! what makes fn-f10 work on my notebook in ubuntu but not in debian?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: linksys is the home grade Cisco which uses unix or bsd (i forget which)  as its OS
[20:33] <AbortD> is alpha 2 out for lucid?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | AbortD
[20:34] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: My client is a small buisness
[20:34] <blades> jrib, I'm talking about to install the proper wifi driver
[20:34] <darolu> AbortD, I think it reached Beta
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: thats moot
[20:34] <WSucks> how do i join a different server thats not on the list of servers?
[20:34] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Iv tried for months upon months
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> WSucks: /server servername
[20:34] <Mousey> halp! what makes fn-f10 work on my notebook in ubuntu but not in debian?
[20:34] <datacrusher> WSucks, /server irc.server.dom
[20:34] <Trek> wsucks: /server <SERVER IP> <PORT>
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: could use ndisgtk
[20:35] <markdd> linksys now uses a form of windows
[20:35] <ipatrol> They lease the router and it is locked
[20:35] <de9ine|two> How can i choose what version of a application i want to install using apt.
[20:35] <faron> WHAT is ubottu talking about ?? Lucid Lynx ?? I never sai a thing about lucidlynx
[20:35] <markdd> the only linksys routers that now use linux are the ones that have an l in thie name
[20:35] <de9ine|two> for example i do not want to install php 5.2.x i want to install php 5.1.x
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> markdd: thatd be expensive for cisco
[20:35] <jrib> de9ine|two: no
[20:35] <markdd> what would @actionparsnip
[20:36] <Trek> faron: the upcoming version of Ubuntu is Lucid Lynx, current version is 9.10 Karmic Koala
[20:36] <jrib> de9ine|two: well technically yes, but practically, on ubuntu, no
[20:36] <darolu> de9ine|two, use apt-cache search <yourapp> to get a list of available versions
[20:36] <ipatrol> I heard it too, MS cut them a deal afew years ago
[20:36] <Daisho> tuxuser: ah, thanks, I found it in the list, but I still would like to have it to the right of the clock. is there any way of doing that?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> markdd: licensing for their OS when they can use an open solution
[20:36] <de9ine|two> darolu, that much i know :P jrib  okey, so ill just go and compile the source of my version by hand.
[20:36] <ipatrol> Mabye the deal includes cutting linux support
[20:37] <jrib> de9ine|two: if you think you must for some reason
[20:37] <tuxuser> Daisho: right click on it => move => force it to move past the clock; the two "applets" should swap automagically. Eventyally right click => lock on panel.
[20:37] <blades> darolu, the readme says:  Compile the driver sources:
[20:37] <blades>  $ make
[20:37] <blades>  3. Install the driver (as root):
[20:37] <blades> # make install  of course after setiing the proper folder via cd command, but after I did the 2nd and 3th step nothing happens... that is meant to use with aircrack but when I asked on aircrack channel they "sent" me here lol
[20:37] <FloodBot4> blades: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <tuxuser> Daisho s/Eventyally/Eventually/
[20:37] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Ill try ndis
[20:37] <blades> I just used the pastebin, what's wrong now ???
[20:37] <jrib> blades: you were told about pastebin before, please stop pasting into the channel
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: if it gets it working i'd run with it
[20:38] <markdd> @actionparsnip would else would they have a disteintion between linux routers and others?
[20:38] <ipatrol> Trying
[20:38] <Daisho> tuxuser: the problem is that the applet is stuck to the left of the "border" and won't move any farther to the right
[20:38] <knoppies> if I am on a shared computer at a university, would it be relativly safe to log into ubuntu one (I have my own account and home folder)?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> markdd: the ability to make them do more than just route with a little know how is useful
[20:39] <darolu> blades, aircrack is on the repos, you can install with sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng; anyways usually you need to ./configure first, if compiling worked your binary should be there
[20:39] <tuxuser> Daisho: you might need to unlock the clock too... right click => uncheck "lock on the panel" (or whatever it's called in the original version)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: sure you can use ssh and x forward the apps from your home pc with the right config :)
[20:39] <Losha> ActionParsnip: cisco is so huge they can negotiate very favourable terms for licensing. Measured against the savings in hardware cost they make because the proprietary system they use (I forget the name) has a much smaller footprint, it's a win for them...
[20:40] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Cisco only cares about profit
[20:40] <Daisho> tuxuser: ah! there we go, everything is in order again. Thanks a lot! (I might ask you to marry me in the near future  :)
[20:40] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I could try that, Im a little concerned about the bandwidth usage, I get 200mb per month.
[20:40] <arzonista> guys what is the anti virus application that compatible with ubuntu 9.04?
[20:40] <jrib> arzonista: why do you want an anti virus?
[20:40] <marex> helo
[20:40] <ipatrol> Many linksys users wouldnt know ssh if it just started up one day and printf'd "mama"
[20:40] <knoppies> arzonista: clam AV I think, but Im not sure.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: you need to check upstream allowance as that is what will be used a lot
[20:40] <heoa> How can you use export-command in crontab-entry? http://pastebin.org/116544
[20:41] <Losha> ipatrol: it's a US for-profit corporation. You might as well blame lions for doing nothing but eating...
[20:41] <blades> darolu, thanks but I'm not having trouble using aircrack; I can't install device drivers for RT73 wifi
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: the 200mb is for at uni, at home I have 10Gigs, not worried about that.
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: and I assume its also limited in the 200mb.
[20:41] <ipatrol> Losha: Read Supercapitalism and youll see the casualties of all that eating
[20:41] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: upstream I mean.
[20:41] <tuxuser> Daisho: glad to be helpful :-)
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: i think you will find the 200Mb is the speed, not allowance
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: it will be fine, go for it dude
[20:42] <arzonista> jrib:for protection,is it advicible?
[20:42] <jrib> !virus | arzonista
[20:42] <Losha> ipatrol: I'm unemployed. I know all about the consequences...
[20:42] <darolu> blades, have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[20:42] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I get 200mb of bandwidth per month, its not the speed, its the data cap. But I will give it a try. I just got to set up a DynDNS at home.
[20:43] <drichert> Anyone know if the Azurewave wireless interface in ASUS laptops is supported under Ubuntu? AW-NE785 or AW-NE771. I *think* they're Atheros chipsets.
[20:43] <blades> darolu, not yet, I try now...
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: can use no-ip.com too. some routers allow you to put the account in the router itself
[20:43] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: mine allows for dyndns, I tried no-ip but I couldnt get it to update on IP change.
[20:43] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: thanks. I really appreciate it.
[20:44] <arzonista> thank you guys
[20:44] <Daisho> okay, that's it for today. goodnight
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: you can install the noip2 client on the system to update from the system.
[20:45] <knoppies> ActionParsnip: I tried that, and I coudlnt get it working. But I thought I would give the dynDNS a try, because my router supports that.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> drichert: from liveCD run: sudo lshw -C network    you will be shown
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> knoppies: good enough :D
[20:46] <knoppies> thanks again ActionParsnip
[20:46] <tuxuser> Anyone mouse / touchpad pointer randomly freeze ?
[20:48] <abstrakt> problem: panel is not auto hiding. I have a single panel with nothing but a workspace switcher in it. The panel is set to auto hide but when it pops up the tooltip saying "click to drag to another desktop" the panel stays open even after i move my mouse off it. How do i fix this. This is MAJORLY &*#($*! annoying....
[20:48] <coppelman> hello i hucke dup a 2nd sata drive last night and every thatng worked great now that i moved the pc back up stairs i cant find the drive
[20:48] <drichert> ActionParsnip: I don't have it in front of me. I'm shopping for a $500ish laptop. Asus seems to have some good ones, but I'd like to know if wireless is going to be a hassle before buying
[20:48] <coppelman> all the wires are good its just goon
[20:48] <abstrakt> i tried gconf-editor to turn off tooltips for the panel but that didn't take effect, i still get the "click to drag to another workspace" tooltip
[20:48] <Krutibrko_> ahoj
[20:48] <crodgers> good afternoon everyone
[20:48] <abstrakt> i saw a "tooltip" item in gconf editor for the workspace switcher, but it had an empty value and I have no idea what to set it to to turn of the panel tooltips or if this will even fix the problem
[20:49] <tuxuser> coppelman: are you 120% sure the sata cables are firmly in place ? They're so badly designed...
[20:49] <coppelman> is there a way to mount it from term
[20:49] <guntbert> coppelman: can you try your question in a language we can understand?
[20:49] <coppelman> yes
[20:49] <cdsboy> Could someone help me with my ntfs mounting issues? fdisk -l, fstab, and mount attempt here http://pastebin.com/MqkMjwbs
[20:49] <coppelman> lol
[20:49] <coppelman> sorry
[20:49] <coppelman> i wired in a 2nd sata drive
[20:50] <cdsboy> note: i'm trying to mount /dev/sdc1 which does exist
[20:50] <cdsboy> the other drives should be irrelivent, i realize they're a mess
[20:50] <coppelman> had it mounted and even filled it up with movies 4 my wife now i cant find it after i restared it
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | drichert
[20:50] <crodgers> question: I tried following these instructions, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick, for OS X and my flash drive is labelled as not bootable
[20:50] <Take0n> I don't know what I have done but everytime I login to ubuntu I have to manually run metacity and then compiz settings otherwise I have no window borders etc. can this be solved somehow?
[20:50] <Trek> cdsboy: make sure you have package ntfs-progs or ntfs-utils or whatever it is installed first
[20:50] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Where is the inf?
[20:51] <crodgers> i'm trying to get the netbook remix onto a netbook, obviously
[20:51] <lukasz> czesc wam
[20:51] <ipatrol> The drivers use C and makefiles
[20:51] <lukasz> jest ktos?
[20:51] <jeremy_> hello
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: you need to download the windows driver, it will have an inf file and a sys file
[20:51] <guntbert> !pl | lukasz
[20:51] <ashToDust> co jest?
[20:52] <cdsboy> Trek: i have it, and i have one ntfs partition mounted just fine
[20:52] <coppelman> so like i was trying to ask how do you mount a drive on terminal
[20:52] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: K
[20:52] <tuxuser> coppelman: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd[a-d] ?
[20:52] <Losha> coppelman: presumably a hardware glitch. Does the drive spin up? Does the kernel see it (dmesg | egrep sd)
[20:53] <tuxuser> coppelman: sudo mkdir /mnt/disk; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk
[20:53] <Aciid> how can I solve python2.4-gtk2 depency on Karmic 64bit?
[20:53] <tuxuser> coppelman: then ls -l /mnt/disk to verify
[20:53] <Aciid> it's not in the repos
[20:53] <AbortD> anyone get crappy wifi service with atheros on karmic?
[20:53] <crodgers> anyone have any trouble with these instructions in OS X? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:54] <coppelman> Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB, 100030242816 bytes
[20:54] <coppelman> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders
[20:54] <coppelman> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:54] <coppelman> Disk identifier: 0x1549f232
[20:54] <coppelman>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[20:54] <FloodBot4> coppelman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <coppelman> /dev/sda1   *           1       11811    94871826   83  Linux
[20:54] <crodgers> i'm looking for a solution and can't find one via google or the forums
[20:54] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: The driver only comes as a simgle .exe
[20:54] <cdsboy> crodgers: you're going to get nothing done there. Clearly state your problem and any information you believe is relevant
[20:54] <coppelman> ?
[20:55] <ronin2307> hi, i need a bit help setting up drupal 6.16 on 9.10 server if anybody is willing to help. specifically i cannot get the mail to flow from the server to any recepient
[20:55] <MobiusJedi> here's a fun one: system tray applets keep loading on my desktop instead of the panel
[20:55] <bastid_raZor> !mount | coppelman  follow this link. it will tell all.
[20:55] <tuxuser> coppelman: apparently the 2nd drive is not seen by the system. There is little you can do sw-wise now. Double check hw.
[20:55] <crodgers> I followed these instructions for putting a live boot onto a flash drive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick for OS X, and the drive is labelled as not bootable.  i need it to be bootable but am not knowledgeable enough
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: use cabextract, a quick websearch would reveal that to you
[20:57] <AbortD> no one has trouble with atheros wifi card?
[20:57] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Wait, I have zips
[20:57] <ipatrol> Also I did, failed
[20:57] <guntbert> coppelman: next time use pastebin please
[20:57] <ipatrol> It appears fri
[20:57] <guntbert> !pastebin | coppelman
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> AbortD: depends on the chip, my AR5001X+ works out of the box
[20:57] <g6okia> crodgers: you are using Windows?
[20:57] <heoa> How can you append next line to your Bash-command, something like \\ or /n looking?
[20:58] <crodgers> g6okia: no, OS X
[20:58] <datacrusher> hello everyone, iv tested 2 webcams here on my notebook, one image goes upside down, other normal. this was to test if /dev/video0 was working ( i used cheese) but none of them worked with skype. anyone had success using webcam with skype?
[20:58] <ipatrol> om a dissassembly that its stored in several C strings
[20:58] <tuxuser> crodgers: on ubuntu, fdisk /dev/<usb dongle device>, you should see a single partition; you can then make it bootable with the appropriate command (don't remember it right now)
[20:58] <blades> thanks for now, come back later... bye
[20:58] <crodgers> tuxuser: thanks i'll look into that
[20:58] <meganerd> AbortD: I have 4 atheros radeos running in homebrew APs.
[20:58] <meganerd> AbortD: you are going to have to be more specific
[20:58] <mattgyver> cdsboy, did you try specifying the type with -t ntfs? worth a shot
[20:59] <cdsboy> mattgyver: didn't work
[20:59] <g6okia> crodgers: you may want to use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:59] <tuxuser> crodgers: the tricky part is identifying the /dev/ entry for the usb key. If you operate on the wrong device, you could mess up your system disk!
[20:59] <cdsboy> a note, the palimpsest disk utility cannot see the partition
[20:59] <cdsboy> idk if that means anything, but fdisk clearly shows it being there
[21:00] <tuxuser> crodgers: dmesg a few times after plugging in the usb key, you'll see what device the kernel assigns to it. HTH
[21:00] <meganerd> AbortD: I even have a new Atheros running as an AP in N mode
[21:00] <MobiusJedi> any idea why my applets won't sit in the system tray where they belong?
[21:00] <AbortD> meganerd, my single should be at 80% if not 100% i'm right by the router and during downloads sometimes i get disconnected from the network
[21:00] <obiwan_> hey guys anybody uses gpm?
[21:00] <AbortD> it runs in G
[21:00] <ipatrol> Why must everything be so difficult on linux?
[21:00] <obiwan_> sry i mean, anybody uses gpm with macbook?
[21:00] <djura-san> ipatrol: becuse it's not windows :|
[21:00] <AbortD> ipatrol because it offers more than windows
[21:00] <meganerd> AbortD: how crowded is the 2.4 Ghz in your area
[21:00] <g6okia> ipatrol: are you using in console mode? :)
[21:00] <ipatrol> Yes
[21:01] <mattgyver> cdsboy, i wonder if the partition is corrupt
[21:01] <cdsboy> mattgyver: i can mount it in gentoo and windows
[21:01] <meganerd> ipatrol: everything is not more difficult in Linux
[21:01] <mattgyver> oh wow
[21:01] <cdsboy> yeah.
[21:01] <ipatrol> But who cares if you can grok your iptables if it takes 3 hours to do so?
[21:01] <AbortD> meganerd, i have seen more networks popping up but mostly N and i have it running on a uncommon signal channel so it doesnt get interference
[21:01] <khem_> Hello my friends!
[21:02] <meganerd> ipatrol: because once you know what you are doing it does not take 3 hours
[21:02] <ipatrol> We need less bash, more GTK+
[21:02] <khem_> I got some issues I have a hard time to resolve with stunnel in Ubuntu, even after a fair share of Googleing.
[21:02] <g6okia> everything is dificult when we don't know how to use it
[21:02] <meganerd> AbortD: define "uncommon"
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: its not, its just different to what you have used for all this time, if you'd used linux as much as windows you'd find it easy too. Also stupid hardware makers have shortsightedness and often do not support the OS
[21:02] <khem_> When i try to start stunnel it says: inetd mode must define a remote host or an executable. Even though i havent set it to be in inetd mode.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[21:02] <AbortD> meganerd, gimme a sec i will double check the channel i think its 6
[21:02] <fabio666> no offense: qt4 a lot better than gtk
[21:03] <meganerd> AbortD: there are only 3 distinct channels.  Channel 3 overlaps with both 1 and 6
[21:03] <khem_> It doesnt make any sense.
[21:03] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: The second problem seems to be the issue here
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> fabio666: none taken , use what you like
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: its getting better, some companys have done it for ages (like nvidia)
[21:03] <meganerd> AbortD: 6 is usually the default and is the busiest.  Wifi is like a hub, even traffic that is not on your network slows everyone else down
[21:03] <ipatrol> fabio666: GTK+ -> Any gui toolkit
[21:03] <AbortD> meganerd,  yeah its channel 6 but i know how the isp sets up peoples routers they set them to 11 because they run off of 7 i think
[21:03] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: I have ntfs-3g installed, and i already have one ntfs partition mounted.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: then use the same command, just a different device ad different mount point
[21:04] <AbortD> meganerd, and it works flawlessly in windows 7
[21:04] <meganerd> ipatrol: less bash and more GTK?  No thanks.  THe mouse is slower than the keyboard
[21:04] <tuxuser> ipatrol: it took me _weeks_ to grok iptables, but it's been satisfying and useful in the long term. On that other os I can't even get that close to the network kernel stuff anyway...
[21:04] <fabio666> ipatrol: do u like tk + tcl ?
[21:04] <AbortD> meganerd, and i have a great signal also
[21:04] <ipatrol> !ot | ipatrol
[21:05] <meganerd> ipatrol: besides, this is not even true on Windows.  I will take bash and a config file over the registry any day
[21:05] <alex__> hallo leute
[21:05] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: see http://pastebin.com/MqkMjwbs which i already posted. If it was as simple as running mount i wouldn't be here.
[21:05] <ipatrol> !ot | meganerd
[21:05] <alex__> ich habe ein problem mit meiner auflösung
[21:05] <alex__> kann jemand helfen?
[21:05] <meganerd> AbortD: how many APs can you see?  How many others on channel 6 (or nearby, like 4, 5, 7, 8)
[21:05] <AbortD> meganerd, would you say channel 2 would be safe you said 1, 3, 6 overlaps
[21:05] <Flare183> !english | alex__
[21:06] <meganerd> AbortD: 1, 6, and 11 do not overlap
[21:06] <ikonia> !de | alex__
[21:06] <AbortD> i see 2 right now one is my wireless antenna from the isp and the other is my neighbors and i doubt its near my channel
[21:06] <AbortD> oh
[21:06] <meganerd> AbortD: the channels right next to each other overlap.  Think of a bell curve.
[21:06] <meganerd> ipatrol: that was cute
[21:07] <AbortD> meganerd, ah ok i catch you
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: does the partition show up in the output of: sudo parted -l   ?
[21:07] <omen333> connect irc.krakow.pl
[21:07] <djura-san> so is there any workaround for argb thingie in ubuntu 9.10? My window drawing is slower in ubuntu when i turn off composite effects and and when i turn them on they are not showing window decorations.
[21:07] <ikonia> cdsboy: manually create the device file, that's what it's complaining about
[21:07] <meganerd> AbortD: of course your neighbors may not cooperate.  I moved to 802.11a at home because people have APs on pretty much every channel, there is no clear space
[21:08] <cdsboy> ikonia: any information on how to do that?, ActionParsnip: I believe so
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> cdsboy: if you add an entry in /etc/fstab using the UUID, does it mount. Have you tried mounting the partition using its UUID instead of /dev/sdc1 etc
[21:08] <ikonia> cdsboy: just do a mknod
[21:08] <ikonia> cdsboy: either it didn't get created at boot time (in which case you have a bug) or something deleted it
[21:08] <meganerd> AbortD: plus two of them seem to have some sort of high gain antenna since their signal strengh is higher than some of the APs in my house
[21:08] <teage> i am trying to install a game called egoboo 2.7.4 and the instructions tell me to run this command ( make -f Makefile.unix) yet it does not work. I have noticed the makefile and its called (makefile) without the .unix . Do you think that maybe the instructions are wrong?
[21:08] <cdsboy> ActionParsnip: doesn't show up in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[21:08] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Error
[21:09] <ipatrol> it was called autorun.inf
[21:09] <ikonia> teage: sounds wrong, I'd contact the support resources for the game and ask them
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: you dont use that file, you want a  different inf
[21:09] <meganerd> teage: possibly.  You will need to install the package "build-essential".  Of course, the error you get might be useful, use pastebin.
[21:09] <AbortD> meganerd, the one i see is running on a wireless n connection and is probably atleast a 100 yards from my house
[21:09] <alex__> how do i connect to an other channel?
[21:09] <meganerd> AbortD: B,G, and most N all use 2.4 Ghz, which is what matters
[21:10] <AbortD> ah
[21:10] <cdsboy> ikonia: i've never used mknod before and the man page isn't making any sense to me, any tips on how to accomplish what i want?
[21:10] <ipatrol> ActionParsnip: Could not find network configuration tool
[21:10] <guntbert> aleksil: type /join #nameofotherchannel
[21:11] <AbortD> meganerd, what do you think would be a dsafe signal to broadcast
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: wikipedia has a good table mapping channel to frequency
[21:11] <ikonia> cdsboy: look at the device files for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc and you should see the paterns for the major/minor numbers
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: whatever is legal and whatever your gear can handle
[21:11] <ikonia> meganerd: AbortD maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[21:11] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
[21:11] <meganerd> AbortD: at the high end many radeos distort, so even though you have the amp cranked, you are getting a worse signal due to added noise
[21:12] <AbortD> it's more of a ubuntu problem ikonia but i will
[21:12] <meganerd> AbortD: I would just stay with the defaults for your driver.
[21:12] <ikonia> AbortD: positioning your antenna is not
[21:12] <ipatrol> !ot | meganerd
[21:12] <ipatrol> Ndis wrapper wont work eithet
[21:12] <AbortD> im sitting next to the AP ikonia :P and havent had a problem in w7
[21:13] <ikonia> AbortD: I appriciate that
[21:13] <conb123> Anyone know of a way of starting pidgin at startup without it bringing up the window?
[21:13] <obiwan_> anybody using macbook with gpm? what settings you put for the synaptics touchpad?
[21:14] <obiwan_> i cant make my right click work in terminal
[21:14] <AbortD> thanks for the help meganerd
[21:14] <meganerd> AbortD: try moving your AP to channel 1.  Do you have another computer that you can transfer files to?  Some drivers have bugs that manifest themselves with speed and performance issues.  Madwifi has undergone some serious changes in the past two years.  Ndiswrapper is also notorius for performance problems
[21:14] <cdsboy> ikonia: sorry, where would one find these device files?
[21:15] <AbortD> im going to have to check which driver i'm using it's the one that came with 9.10
[21:15] <meganerd> AbortD: NP.  I have been working with Linux and wifi since the early "B" days.
[21:15] <AbortD> wow
[21:15] <AbortD> i first got into linux around edgy
[21:15] <guntbert> !ot > AbortD
[21:16] <kubanc> is there any command to test if the sound is playing in terminal ?
[21:16] <AbortD> ok i will stop asking for ubuntu help in the ubuntu help channel thx for reminding me why i stopped coming here guntbert and ikonia
[21:17] <guntbert> AbortD: we like to help - but you keep talking about other issues
[21:17] <meganerd> kubanc: do you want to play something from the command line or do you want to set mixer levels?
[21:17] <Gnea> AbortD: you just need to reformulate the way you ask for help. no one cares about your personal history here, just stick to the facts of the current problem, please.
[21:17] <AbortD> uhm i am wifi
[21:18] <AbortD> and fixing it in ubuntu
[21:18] <AbortD> what do you think im talking about?
[21:18] <Gnea> well if you're fixing it, why are you telling us?
[21:18] <AbortD> riding horses?
[21:18] <AbortD> IM NOT
[21:18] <Prodego> any ops about?
[21:18] <AbortD> he was helping me
[21:18] <meganerd> AbortD: they were just talking about your one post about using linux since edgy
[21:18] <kubanc> meganerd, I have Ubuntu 9.10 live CD and i would like to see if the drivers are installed correctly. So yes, i would like to play sound, let's say from command line
[21:18] <meganerd> AbortD: just ignore them.
[21:18] <AbortD> alright thx mega
[21:19] <mneptok> meganerd: ignoring ops is a bad idea.
[21:19] <AbortD> mneptok, thats off topic please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:19] <Gnea> AbortD: exactly, it didn't seem to have any relevence.
[21:19] <AbortD> this is a help channel mneptok
[21:19] <mneptok> AbortD: uh ...
[21:19] <preposteruss> i just installed my wireless drivers in kubuntu with ndiswrapper, but i still have nothing in iwconfig and the wireless tabs are greyed out in the gui
[21:19] <teage> well it seems to have installed. I can hear the music but my monitor sends a frequency out of range to me. Any Ideas on this?
[21:20] <Gnea> AbortD: do you need help with your wifi?
[21:20] <preposteruss> but ndiswrapper -l shows my card installed, the windows drivers are showing up in the system folder
[21:20] <meganerd> kubanc: try running "alsamixer" from the command line
[21:20] <AbortD> i did but i'm sick of getting told to go to offtopic for the help so i will try to google it thanks anyways
[21:20] <mneptok> AbortD: i caution you about being sarcastic, unhelpful, and deliberately snide.
[21:20] <meganerd> teage: there may be a config file with screen resolution set in it somewhere.
[21:20] <kubanc> meganerd, yes, it's working
[21:21] <Gnea> AbortD: you know, I can see that guntbert did take it out of context. sorry.
[21:21] <AbortD> mneptok you can msg me in offtopic about that
[21:21] <snxs> hello, anyone familiar with the installation of ut2004 on ubuntu 9.10 ? for some reason on this dvd (editor's choice) the linux-installer.sh file is not added.. so any other way i can install this ?
[21:21] <AbortD> sure did dont be sorry
[21:21] <mneptok> AbortD: i'm telling you here.
[21:21] <meganerd> kubanc: I often use mpg123 and mplayer from the command line to play media
[21:22] <teage> thanx meganerd, I am checking it right now, Do you think if all fails i may be able to tweak my nvidia settings?
[21:22] <AbortD> sorry this is a ubuntu help channel not meant for chatting
[21:22] <kubanc> meganerd, i found command speaker-test, but it doesn't play
[21:22] <Myrtti> AbortD: can you please move on?
[21:23] <meganerd> teage: if it happens after you launch the game, chances are there is something the game is doing.  Of course it is still possible that your nvidia driver is the issue
[21:23] <AbortD> i have but when people add in a last comment it's hard
[21:23] <kubanc> meganerd, it's working. speaker-test it's a good command...
[21:23] <sam555> i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=850e3c3e3133e52c033771623402322d&p=8982969#post8982969 but I don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf) folder to edit.  I'm using ubuntu 9.10 any ideas?
[21:23] <Guest33509> hi
[21:23] <Gnea> sam555: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a file, not a folder/directory
[21:24] <meganerd> sam555: use xrandr or the GUI tools
[21:25] <meganerd> sam555: both Gnome and KDE have pretty decent display control apps.  As a fallback look in to using xrandr (most GUIs are just a front end for xrandr anyway).
[21:25] <sam555> meganerd: xrandr, what is this?
[21:25] <meganerd> sam555: the command you run from a terminal to control your video outputs
[21:26] <Gnea> sam555: are you trying to get the projector to be setup as the default video display device on bootup?
[21:26] <sam555> meganerd: ah
[21:26] <meganerd> sam555: I would start with the GUI tools that already there
[21:26] <sam555> Gnea: i just want the laptop to play movies and just buy connecting it to the projector the computer crashes without even choosing anything
[21:27] <Gnea> sam555: when does it crash? when you run the script?
[21:27] <Guest33509> ich habe 2 pc s und einer hat keine Festplatte kann ich ein kompletes ubuntu betribs system über PXE von dem einem mit Festplatte für den anderen ohne Festplatte laden
[21:27] <HorizonXP> i have grub installed on my USB key, and I am able to boot an Ubuntu ISO from it.
[21:27] <HorizonXP> i'm wondering how can I tell grub to boot Windows 7 (installer) from the /windows7/ directory
[21:27] <nibbler> !de | Guest33509
[21:27] <sam555> Gnea: I haven't run the script.  I haven't done anything.  Just a basic 9.10 install and then plug in the projector and it crashes.
[21:27] <zongo_> hi anyone has used wvdial before ?
[21:27] <eremite> HorizonXP, use a live CD instead?
[21:27] <Gnea> sam555: weird. anything in /var/log/ about it?
[21:27] <sam555> then I went to read the link I gave and I couldn't find the .conf file to edit to run the script to make it work
[21:28] <meganerd> zongo_: about 10 years ago.
[21:28] <sam555> Gnea: let me check
[21:28] <HorizonXP> eremite: i'm trying to setup windows for a machine without a CD
[21:28] <HorizonXP> * CDROM
[21:28] <Gnea> sam555: okay
[21:28] <zongo_> is it that old ??
[21:28] <HorizonXP> no, i just didn't bother getting a cdrom for it since it wouldn't be used
[21:28] <zongo_> what would you use to replace it by today ?
[21:28] <eremite> HorizonXP, this is an ubuntu help chanel, perhaps you should seek a windows channel.
[21:29] <HorizonXP> eremite: it's a GRUB question tho
[21:29] <meganerd> zongo_: broadband via ethernet :)  Seriously though, for dial-up I thought it was fine
[21:29] <zongo_> via 3G modem
[21:30] <zongo_> where I live I have nothing else
[21:30] <meganerd> zongo_: ahh, I have not done that before.
[21:30] <djura-san> so is there any workaround for argb thingie in ubuntu 9.10? My window drawing is slower in ubuntu when i turn off composite effects and and when i turn them on they are not showing window decorations.
[21:30] <meganerd> zongo_: have you got the 3g dongle working at all yet?
[21:30] <djura-san> any ideas please?
[21:30] <Maletor> drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2010-03-17 16:58 pids directory for pid=/var/www/ellisberner.com/shared/tmp/pids/unicorn.pid not writable
[21:30] <zongo_> the issue is that it is asking me for a usrname passwd and tel number which I do not need to connect
[21:30] <Maletor> whoops ^^ ignore
[21:31] <sam555> Gnea: which log would indicate the issue?
[21:31] <wertwertgfhjrer> is there a way to keep broken parts of rar archives together. like i have 4 parts of one rar archive and the 4 th is broken. how can i extract the other 3 without them getting deleted.
[21:32] <Maletor> Why does capistrano think the folder is unwritable? http://pastie.org/874503
[21:33] <Losha> zongo_: have you tried just putting in random strings?
[21:33] <Losha> wertwertgfhjrer: check out the -kb flag to unrar (man unrar)
[21:34] <meganerd> Maletor: the user that is trying to write needs to be in the www-data group.
[21:34] <Gnea> sam555: it depends how long ago the crash occurred. if within the past few hours, likely in syslog and/or Xorg.0.log
[21:34] <zongo_> i am trying that now, will be off and back if it does not work cheers
[21:34] <Maletor> meganerd: so in capistrano i need to set :user, www-data:www-data ?
[21:35] <Gnea> sam555: and yes, they are large files, so you will need to scroll it back until you find the right time
[21:35] <meganerd> Maletor: or add whatever user capistrano runs as to the www-data group
[21:35] <sam555> Gnea: that's what I thought.  i ran xorg.0 log and I'll have to paste bin it to you
[21:35] <Maletor> meganerd: cap runs as the user www-data
[21:35] <Gnea> sam555: alright. do you have pastebinit installed?
[21:35] <Maletor> which is in the www-data group
[21:36] <coz_> hey guys...jsut noticed that my blinking cursor thingy got real wide for some reason   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/cursorblink.png  any settings for this???
[21:36] <coz_> its not just in xchat either it is also in terminal etc etc etc
[21:36] <Gnea> coz_: did you hit the insert key?
[21:36] <Alphos> coz_ : insert ? :D
[21:36] <coz_> Gnea, mmm let me check
[21:36] <Alphos> Gnea ;)
[21:36] <Gnea> :)
[21:36] <meganerd> Maletor: can you su to www-data and try writing a file to that directory?
[21:36] <coz_> Alphos,  and Gnea   very cool I did indeed lol
[21:36] <Alphos> heh
[21:36] <Gnea> coz_: cheers :)
[21:37] <sam555> Gnea: I'll just go here !pastebin
[21:37] <coz_> thanks guys  I had never come across this before...glad you 2 have already :)
[21:37] <sam555>  need to log and come back
[21:37] <Gnea> sam555: cool
[21:37] <hogfoot> hi.  i need to rsync over ssh with a key pair using the www-data user...but since it's a psudo user there is no shell to add a keypair to.  any ideas?  is it safe to make www-data a full account with home dir?
[21:37] <coz_> Gnea,  and Alphos   but still wide in the terminal ??/
[21:38] <eremite> Is there any way to install the xubuntu weather applet and relpace the ubuntu one in gnome?  The xubuntu one is much better and gives a 5 day forecast, and also has my smaller city in its listings as opposed to the closest big city...?
[21:38] <Maletor> meganerd: success
[21:38] <Maletor> http://pastie.org/874513
[21:38] <sash_> hogfoot: use a user who is in the www-data-group and has access to /var/www
[21:38] <sash_> then chown
[21:38] <sam555> !pastebin
[21:38] <Alphos> i'm having a bit of a problem with gedit : i'd like to use UTF-8 when saving a file, it seems my file is written as 7bit ASCII ; the file is a php script that's supposed to work with utf8 strings, and it of course breaks with non-ascii chars
[21:39] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396946/
[21:39] <hogfoot> sash_, the process if ran from a web interface that is why I need to use www-data user (or whatever I have apache set to run as)
[21:39] <Alphos> is there any reason why gedit would use 7bit ASCII instead of utf8 ?
[21:39] <meganerd> hogfoot: rsync --rsh="ssh -i /path/to/key" localdir remoteuser@remotehost:remotedir
[21:39] <zongo__> working nice now
[21:39] <zongo__> random string into wdial
[21:39] <Losha> zongo__: excellent...
[21:39] <meganerd> zongo__: cool.
[21:40] <Alphos> (pebkac shouldn't be involved, i didn't touch anything related to char encoding since i installed ubuntu a month ago, and didn't during the install)
[21:40] <sash_> hogfoot: www-data is a user and a group. so make /var/www/ readable for both (user and group) and scp the file as a user who is in this group
[21:40] <od3n> can someone point me in the right direction
[21:40] <rsk> od3n ->
[21:40] <adorablepuppy> I need to clone a HFS+ partition, for backup purposes.
[21:40] <rsk> sorry.
[21:40] <zongo__> I have 9600 baud, do you guys think I could increase that without any problem ?
[21:40] <invisibleman> hi
[21:40] <od3n> I am having issues trying to install Thunderbird
[21:40] <hogfoot> meganerd, rsync will not allow you to set perms other than 600 on the key pair file
[21:40] <rsk> od3n what's the error
[21:40] <invisibleman> Hey anyone know how to use ubuntu with xbox live?
[21:40] <abstrakt> Alphos, vim ftw!
[21:40] <Alphos> i'm not used to vim :x
[21:41] <Alphos> i still got loads of windoz habits ^^'
[21:41] <sam555> Gnea: I have to step away, but brb in 15 min
[21:41] <coz_> Alphos, it should be set to utf8 default let me check
[21:41] <Gnea> coz_: each application may remember the insert setting independently
[21:41] <zongo__> without impairing the connection of my usb modem --> i know I should not  be posting this here but in case someone knows
[21:41] <Gnea> sam555: ok, still reading
[21:41] <Alphos> coz_ all i read points to that
[21:41] <meganerd> hogfoot: put the keyfile somewhere, and give www-data permission to read it.  Do not put in a directory that you providing http access to
[21:41] <Losha> zongo__: Try it. If you start getting dropped characters, go back to 9600...
[21:41] <terry_> od3n: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[21:41] <abstrakt> Alphos, i use vim on windows... what of it? vimming has little to do with windows
[21:41] <od3n> well I downloaded it frrom the site as a tar.bz2
[21:41] <coz_> Gnea,  ok   Alphos  ok
[21:41] <Alphos> but enca doesn't seem to agree, and gedit --list-encodings does not display UTF8
[21:41] <massa-pash>  /nickserv register Rfkfvfhb tretyakova@krm.net.ua
[21:41] <od3n> I am trying to get thunderbird 3
[21:41] <hogfoot> meganerd, oooh that sounds like it would do the job.  thanks.
[21:42] <Alphos> UTF7 and UTF16 are listed though
[21:42] <terry_> od3n: What version do you have now?
[21:42] <wertwertgfhjrer> Losha, thx. it seems to work
[21:42] <abstrakt> Alphos, here ya go http://www.viemu.com/vi-vim-cheat-sheet.gif :)
[21:42] <meganerd> Maletor: hmm, I am not sure what the problem is.  capistrano is on my todo list, but I have not messed with it much yet
[21:42] <theuros> hi to all .. is there a difference between kubuntu or ubuntu with KDE installed ? .. i installes KDE and i'm trying to run kcontrol .. i read that i need to star "run command" and then start kcontrol .. but i can't find this run "command" ...any help ?
[21:42] <xangua> massa-pash: /msg nickserv register :S ........................................
[21:42] <delta3> hello
[21:42] <meganerd> hogfoot: NP
[21:42] <CalmvsKhaos> think of VIM as the newest latest greatest thing to hit the market, and it will be easier to use, dont think of it as something that is nearing 30 years old, it's psychological :)
[21:42] <Losha> wertwertgfhjrer: very good...
[21:42] <adorablepuppy> My OS X 10.3.9 became unbootable, but I can mount it through linux for some reason. I am wondering if it is possible to back the whole partition up to a separate drive while I install OS X 10.5.
[21:42] <abstrakt> Alphos, done deal... and if you want more where that came from i'll send you my vim config
[21:42] <meganerd> theuros: Alt-F2
[21:42] <od3n> 2.0.2 I think
[21:43] <Alphos> abstrakt : that's the very reason why i prefer gedit :D
[21:43] <zongo__> on another matter, I have created a partition in my external drive with gparted. The partition is formatted in ext3 but it remains in read-only
[21:43] <zongo__> anyone has any idea why ?
[21:43] <abstrakt> CalmvsKhaos, there's a major difference between something that is 30 years old that hasn't been updated in 30 years and something that's 30 years old that's been updated within the past few months
[21:43] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, uhhh ok
[21:43] <meganerd> zongo__: it is probably owned by root, you likely just need to change the file permissions
[21:43] <zongo__> I have to use gksudo nautilus in order to move files in and out
[21:43] <llutz> theuros: kcontrol? isn't it "systemsettings" now?
[21:43] <Losha> adorablepuppy: if you can mount it and read the files, you can make a backup using tar or cp as long as you have space somewhere...
[21:43] <theuros> yea .. but alt+f2 gives me a input line and 2 buttons .. settings and sys activity .. if i insert kcontrol and hit enter nothing happens
[21:44] <zongo__> well its mounted in /media
[21:44] <meganerd> zongo__: "sudo chown youruser /path/to/mounted/partition
[21:44] <terry_> od3n: Have you downloaded a tarball?
[21:44] <theuros> i don't know=
[21:44] <od3n> yeah
[21:44] <zongo__> did that as well
[21:44] <zongo__> but to no avail
[21:44] <od3n> but I dont know what to do with that
[21:44] <ardchoille> theuros: iirc, kcontrol was done away with
[21:44] <meganerd> theuros: do you have any sort of menu running?
[21:44] <rsk> od3n use the package manager instead? sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[21:44] <caseys> how do i set up postfix?
[21:44] <theuros> what you mean ? menu running ?
[21:44] <zongo__> I did not know that creating a partition would mean that root owns it
[21:45] <od3n> that only installs the version I have
[21:45] <zongo__> which is not the case as if i check with ls it gives me all the rights
[21:45] <meganerd> theuros: like a K menu to click on?  Also, "systemsettings" is what you need to run these days
[21:45] <theuros> can someone point me in the right direction .. how to define shortcuts for desktop switching ?
[21:45] <theuros> yes i have it
[21:45] <mneptok> zongo__: what is the mount point in /media, what is your username, and what is the type of filesystem?
[21:45] <llutz> caseys: http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny    +  /j #postfix
[21:45] <ardchoille> theuros: in gnome it should be ctrl+alt+left/right arrow
[21:46] <terry_> od3n: did you download thunderbird-3.0.3.tar.bz2 ?
[21:46] <od3n> yeah
[21:46] <Losha> caseys: the answer to that is so complex people have written entire *books* on the subject...
[21:46] <meganerd> zongo__: test with sudo.  "sudo cp somefile /media/yourmountpoint"
[21:46] <theuros> in gnome i used my own shortcuts to go left or to right desktop .. i want do the same here in kde
[21:46] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, and just so you know VIM 7.2 was updated in 2008 , thats hardly 30 years.
[21:46] <terry_> od3n: cd Downloads ; tar jxvf thunderbird-3.0.3.tar.bz2
[21:46] <madjoe> how to setup SMTP server on Apache/php?
[21:46] <ardchoille> theuros: you need to ask kde questions in #kubuntu
[21:47] <The_Tick> is there a network install of ubuntu?
[21:47] <theuros> aha ..  so wrong channel .. thanx
[21:47] <meganerd> theuros: there is probably a way to do it from the KDE control panel.  Load systemsettings, failing that there is a kde specific forum
[21:47] <mkquist> theuros: compizconfig settings manager
[21:47] <od3n> I have it unpacked
[21:47] <Losha> madjoe: what do you need it to do exactly?
[21:47] <theuros> isn't compizconfig for gnome only?
[21:47] <mkquist> theuros: i use alt/arrow
[21:48] <zongo__> that does work
[21:48] <madjoe> Losha: to send mail over my php scripts
[21:48] <mkquist> oh ur in ubuntu soi just assumed.. sry
[21:48] <terry_> sudo mv thunderbird/  /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.3
[21:48] <zongo__> since it gives me the right of root
[21:48] <zongo__> but my user is admin
[21:48] <zongo__> does not make sense to me
[21:48] <meganerd> zongo__: so, it would seem that your user does not have permission to write to the folder
[21:48] <Losha> madjoe: outgoing mail only, from your server machine? Or something else?
[21:49] <madjoe> Losha: there's /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, but there's a comment [mail function] ; For Win32 only.
[21:49] <terry_> od3n: ... got that part done?
[21:49] <abstrakt> CalmvsKhaos, umm... yeah... you're basically providing favorable evidence for my argument? apparently we both enjoy vim...
[21:49] <madjoe> Losha: from my Ubuntu LAMP config
[21:49] <zongo__> but would this command line chown user /xxx/xxx give me the right ?
[21:49] <od3n> what part the unpacking?
[21:49] <mneptok> zongo__: what is the mount point in /media, what is your username, and what is the type of filesystem?
[21:49] <meganerd> zongo__: chmod or chown, whichever is more appropriate (both will work, which you use depends on how you use the drive)
[21:49] <meganerd> mneptok: there is no need for you to know his username
[21:50] <mneptok> meganerd: for chown to work there is
[21:50] <Losha> madjoe: sorry dunno, try #php ?
[21:50] <terry_> od3n: See my private message
[21:50] <madjoe> Losha: ok, thanks
[21:50] <zongo__> the mount point is /media/films the file system is ext3 the user name is zongo
[21:50] <meganerd> mneptok: no one in this channel actually needs to know his username.
[21:50] <abstrakt> madjoe, nix php uses sendmail
[21:50] <CalmvsKhaos> abstrakt, oops sorry I must have read you wrong :)
[21:50] <terry_> od3n: sudo mv thunderbird/  /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.3
[21:50] <Losha> zongo__: please show the output from ls -ld /media/films
[21:50] <zongo__> I have used chmod and chown a couple of times of already and it makes no difference
[21:51] <madjoe> abstrakt: ok, I'll check sendmail
[21:51] <mneptok> zongo__: sudo chown -R zongo:zongo /media/films && sudo chown -R root:root /media/films/lost+found
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, which sendmail
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, that'll tell you the sendmail path, put that into php.ini
[21:51] <zongo__> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2010-03-17 21:47 /media/films
[21:51] <sp0spo> hi
[21:51] <u350> hi, everybody
[21:51] <abstrakt> madjoe, that won't guarantee that PHP will send mail over the actual factual interweb tho
[21:51] <meganerd> zongo__: sudo will need to be used since your user cannot change anything without owning the files or folders
[21:51] <klimraamkosie> Hey :)  I need some samba help (file server for windows clients, each client gets a share etc)
[21:51] <meganerd> zongo__: so sudo chown myuser /media/films
[21:51] <mneptok> zongo__: use that command i just gave you
[21:51] <madjoe> abstrakt: I'm blind.. just 3 lines bellow is a parameter for Unix/Linux... crap..
[21:52] <caseys> how do i set up postfix with the smtp host?
[21:52] <meganerd> zongo__: or "sudo chmod u+rwx /media/films
[21:52] <sp0spo> how come on my laptop after about 10 minutes, the xwindows reloads/reboots and then i lose what I was working on.... it is like ubuntu laods twice for my laptop
[21:52] <Losha> zongo__: that directory is writable only by root. Do: sudo chmod ugo+rwx /media/films
[21:52] <Stargaze> caseys, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[21:52] <taurus_> join undernet
[21:52] <nmvictor> i compiled and installed moc(Music On Console) and i get this message when i fire it up, FATAL ERROR: No decoder plugins have been installed.
[21:53] <taurus_> #phpfrance
[21:53] <Stargaze> caseys, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[21:53] <Losha> madjoe: are you sure you need postfix. If you're just sending outgoing email via your ISP, there are far simpler solutions e.g. ssmtp
[21:53] <zongo__> makes no difference
[21:53] <sp0spo> anyone know why my laptop reloads xwindows after about 10 minutes and i lose what i was writting on/have to type it again?
[21:54] <zongo__> root still does own it
[21:54] <madjoe> Losha: ssmtp? can I install it from Synaptic?
[21:54] <llutz> zongo__: are you sure it is ext3?
[21:54] <zongo__> positive
[21:54] <ardchoille> zongo__: are you following what mneptok is telling you?
[21:54] <meganerd> zongo__: sudo chown youruser /media/films -R
[21:54] <zongo__> yes i am
[21:54] <llutz> zongo__: "mount | grep films"
[21:54] <madjoe> Losha: I just need to allow my Drupal installation to send emails
[21:54] <mneptok> zongo__: sudo chown -R zongo:zongo /media/films && sudo chown -R root:root /media/films/lost+found
[21:54] <nom_nom> I'm having trouble figuring out how to network with a windows computer
[21:54] <Losha> madjoe: absolutely. And the config is only 6 lines....
[21:55] <Stargaze> nom_nom, do you mean samba?
[21:55] <nom_nom> yeah
[21:55] <Stargaze> nom_nom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[21:55] <zongo__> mneptok: you are the winner, now I have been added to the ownership of that partition
[21:55]  * mneptok bows
[21:55] <zongo__> I suppose with the -R switch that did it
[21:56] <zongo__> I did not think about that one
[21:56] <ardchoille> mneptok: :)
[21:56] <zongo__> since the partition was brand new and nothing in it
[21:56] <meganerd> zongo__: -R = recursive
[21:56] <zongo__> yes, but what would I have to be recursive when the partition is empty
[21:56] <zongo__> I can now create files and whatnote
[21:57] <sam555> Gnea: back.  Was it the right log info?
[21:57] <Losha> zongo__: the important part was the chown zongo:zongo, not the -R bit....
[21:57] <mneptok> zongo__: you were just changing the perms of the mount point itself. not the filesystem inside it.
[21:57] <sam555> Gnea:  I'm going to move my laptop to a different net.  Give me 5 and i'll brb
[21:57] <edd> hi
[21:57] <zongo__> so the -R is recursive only on the mount point /media/films ?
[21:58] <Gnea> sam555: think we're gonna need a bit more. ok
[21:58] <edd> i have karmic, and I removed gnome-network manager and installed Wicd, but Wicd doesn't start how can I get back gnome-network-manager?
[21:58] <theuros> messing with compizConfig in KDE effects setting in GNOME ?
[21:58] <zongo__> but then what is the reason for -R to work and if no -R it does not work ? sorry for being a pain,  I am trying to understand
[21:58] <Stargaze> edd, alt-f2 nmapplet
[21:58] <Stargaze> edd, alt-f2 nm-applet
[21:58] <sp0spo> Why does xwindows reload after about 10 minutes on my laptop? WTF
[21:59] <zongo__> being a newbie and all, sometimes i find it uneasy
[21:59] <Lasivian> Any suggestions on a cad program with Windows and Linux versions so I don't have to learn two interfaces and convert files?
[21:59] <Losha> edd: first person I've seen saying that wicd doesn't work for them...
[21:59] <ardchoille> zongo__: -R means recursive (perform the work on all files under the parent)
[21:59] <Stargaze> zongo__, we all we were newbies, once :)
[21:59] <edd> losha; i know weird
[21:59] <sp0spo> what is the laptop help channel?
[21:59]  * gnomefreak thought it was -r
[21:59] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: for chown and chmod
[22:00] <nom_nom> It says there's supposed to be a network icon in the places menu, but there's not
[22:00] <Andorin> How do I stop Ubuntu from correcting the system clock for Daylight Savings Time?
 edd, alt-f2 nm-applet: doesn't work either
[22:00] <meganerd> zongo__: you never really get to not be a newbie.  There is always something that you don't know about :)
[22:00] <EricBlade-mobile> hey all.. i'm getting a Seg fault during processing on my most recent apt-get upgrade
[22:00] <Stargaze> edd, and with sudo?
[22:00] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: right. sorry came in at end of topic
[22:00] <EricBlade-mobile> setting up libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6. .. ldconfig deferred processing now atking place .. Seg fault .. exit status 139 .. any suggestions for how to proceed?
[22:01] <zongo__> cheers guys :) but the -R does not do it just yet :)  I do understand that it is recursive but for me it needs to have directories and files in it in order to be recursive
[22:01] <edd> Stargaze: it's not installed :S
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:01] <nmvictor> i compiled and installed moc(Music On Console) and i get this message when i fire it up, FATAL ERROR: No decoder plugins have been installed.any suggestions
[22:01] <edd> it tells me to install it as a package but I dont' have internet access
[22:01] <zongo__> well, will read more docs on it, but real glad that this is sorted out
[22:01] <Stargaze> edd, type sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[22:01] <zongo__> cheers guys :)
[22:01] <jrib> nmvictor: why aren't you just using the package in the repositories?
[22:01] <edd> Stargaze: I don't have internet :P
[22:02] <edd> can i download it somewhere as deb or smth?
[22:02] <squelos> hi
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> edd: package.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <mgolisch> id use apt-get install -d
[22:02] <Stargaze> edd, can you not install it from the CD?
[22:02] <Losha> zongo__: read about file permissions here: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg24t3.htm
[22:02] <mgolisch> on a machine with internet
[22:03] <mgolisch> and copy the stuff from the archive directory, that way you will get all the deps too
[22:03] <squelos> im having trouble using keys to secure my SSH :/ it works ok with just the password auth, but when i try to configure keys, it messes up, and keeps saying : permission denied (publickey)
[22:03] <llutz> zongo__: if your partition is empty, there is no difference in "chown -R" and "chown"
[22:03] <squelos> i do have my public key in the good file :/
[22:03] <nmvictor> jrib: i would if i could but i cant for some reasons, i just want to work with my own compiled version for one, opting for repos is quite lazy and refusin to think, my opinion
[22:03] <edd> I dont' have the cd
[22:04] <sp0spo> what is the channel for ubuntu on laptops?
[22:04] <jrib> nmvictor: erm, using repository packages has several advantages...
[22:04] <TimothyA> is the apache2 package in the repository of ubuntu capable of using multiple cores?
[22:04] <Losha> squelos: use ssh -v to get more verbose debugging, see if it helps...
[22:04] <datadigger> squelos: Do the .ssh directory and the authorized_keys file have the correct permissions?
[22:04] <nom_nom> It says there's supposed to be a network icon in the places menu, but there's not
[22:04] <nom_nom> is there another way to network, or am I stuck?
[22:04] <zongo__> cheers guys
[22:05] <mgolisch> squelos: so your publickey is in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 for the user youi login on the server?
[22:05] <nmvictor> jrib: the updates
[22:05] <zongo__> just for my own information: would any partition that i create be owned by root ?
[22:06] <jrib> nmvictor: that's one, yes
[22:06] <llutz> zongo__: yes
[22:06] <zongo__> or can i create a partition that would directly owned by my username ?
[22:06] <squelos> mgolisch : yes. Datadigger : im looking into that :).
[22:06] <jrib> zongo__: you can change the permissions to whatever you want
[22:06] <nmvictor> jrib: what else?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> zongo__: technically yes, then you can mount it with certain options to give uer access
[22:06] <Losha> nmvictor: the dependencies, for another. Sounds like you're missing some codecs...
[22:06] <mgolisch> no
[22:07] <llutz> ActionParsnip: not with unix-fs
[22:07] <mgolisch> only ntfs and vfat support the uid/gid mount options
[22:07] <jrib> nmvictor: it's easier, it allows for easier debugging, it's been tested to work with the other versions of software in the repositories
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: but only root can mount it (or give others access)
[22:07] <zongo__> ok, i suppose then it is best to use command-line to have more flexibility
[22:07] <llutz> ActionParsnip: different thing
[22:07] <Losha> zongo__: start here to read about file permissions: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg24t3.htm
[22:07] <zongo__> instead of usinng software all the time
[22:07] <jrib> nmvictor: automatic dependencies and suggests installed...
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz: kinda same but kinda different
[22:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: root can mount unix-fs but cannot give you access without using chown/chmod
[22:08] <zongo__> yep will do so Losha -> it's been bookmarked. will read it tonight: cheers
[22:08] <Vigo> Is there a widget/package that allows me store a few passwds on a USB and use it at Boot and other stuff?
[22:08] <jove> Hi All: does anyone know Ubuntu has a tool to optimize the disk ?
[22:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: with vfat/ntfs root can mount -o uid=/gid=   to give you access
[22:08] <mgolisch> jove: optimize the disk?
[22:08] <EricBlade-mobile> anyone? how to fix dpkg after getting seg fualt on ldconfig ?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> jove: hdparm or sdparm
[22:09] <sie> How do I make a user invisible in gnome's login prompt user menu, and how do I edit kinds of sessions for gnome login manager?
[22:09] <nmvictor> Losha: whats missing?
[22:09] <squelos> http://pastebin.com/B5VBmUsU => are the permissions wrong on my client ?
[22:09] <jrib> EricBlade-mobile: can you ldconfig successfully now?
[22:09] <datadigger> mgolisch: I thiink jove means: defragment a filesystem
[22:09] <Vigo> jove: Yes, there are a couple, what ActionParsnip said are good.
[22:09] <sp0spo> what is the laptop channel for ubuntu? xwindows reboots after about 10 minutes while on my laptop. IO don't know why
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> llutz: sure but root can also mount the ext3 etc as ro, thus root has the power and therefore (ipso-facto) the ownership
[22:10] <trism> sie: users with a uid less than 1000 won't show up in the gdm menu
[22:10] <jove> Vigo: does it have the GUI to run or run from CMD ?
[22:10] <sie> trism: They'll be counted as users for apps, like mpd/mysql?
[22:10] <Vigo> jove: Look at ddrescue and in that area also, they are mainly terminal.
[22:11] <sam555> gnea: any ideas?
[22:11] <Losha> nmvictor: run apt-cache depends moc and it should tell you...
[22:11] <llutz> ActionParsnip: lots possibilities, but i was refering  this, which is definetly wrong for unix-fs -> [23:06:47] <ActionParsnip> zongo__: technically yes, then you can mount it with certain options to give uer access
[22:11] <sp0spo> what is the laptop channel for ubuntu? xwindows reboots after about 10 minutes while on my laptop. IO don't know why
[22:11] <mgolisch> squelos: either you didnt add your public key tp the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file on the server or something else is wrong
[22:12] <obiwan_> hey guys anybody syncs his itouch/iphone with libgpod?
[22:12] <squelos> authorized_keys2 ?
[22:12] <datadigger> sp0spo: After 10 minutes of inactivity, or also when you use keyboard/mouse all the time?
[22:12] <Gnea> sam555: if you have pastebinit installed, you can paste the whole log without copy 'n paste
[22:12] <Vigo> jove: In Synaptic Package Manager just enter Hard Drive or Disk Utilities in the search section.
[22:12] <sp0spo> when i am typing and using the keyboard and mouse
[22:12] <terry_> sp0spo: Don't know that we have a "laptop channel", but may be a heat issue.
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> llutz: given
[22:12] <mgolisch> squelos: did you add you public key to the server at all?
[22:13] <sam555> Gnea: k, do I just do apt-get install pastebin?
[22:13] <squelos> i did, but to the authorized_keys, not authorized_keys2. It might be because its a debian serv, but i tried  SSH a few weeks ago on a karmic, and i didnt see authorized_keys2
[22:14] <nmvictor> jrib: so now that the compiled version is temporarly installed, wont intslling the repos version result in a mixup?
[22:14] <Vigo> !pastebinit
[22:14] <squelos> mgolisch  i did, but to the authorized_keys, not authorized_keys2. It might be because its a debian serv, but i tried  SSH a few weeks ago on a karmic, and i didnt see authorized_keys2
[22:14] <jrib> squelos, mgolisch: do you guys mean ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, not ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2?
[22:14] <Losha> nmvictor: installing the repo version should simply overwrite the version you installed....
[22:14] <edd> I have installed ndiswrapper from source ... tried to remove can't seem to succeed
[22:14] <sie> How do I manage sessions for gdm?
[22:14] <jrib> nmvictor: no, but depnding on where you installed your compiled version, you should remove it
[22:15] <trism> sie: well, I'm not sure it really matters, but actual users usually have uids greater than 1000, while users that run services usually have less, which is probably why gdm does it this way
[22:15] <LateralForce> Is it possible display the separate core loads in System Monitor Applet?
[22:15] <Gnea> !info pastebinit
[22:15] <mgolisch> squelos: id read the logs on the server
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> edd: because you used source, if you'd made a deb fdrom the compiled binarys and installed that then removal is simple
[22:15] <squelos> jrib : i never heard of the authorized_keys2. I added to the authorized_keys. So i dunno know :/ What if i delete the /etc/ssh/sshd_config. will it restablish it to default ?
[22:15] <terry_> sie: gdmsetup
[22:16] <terry_> sie  What exactly do you want to do?
[22:16] <mgolisch> squelos: like auth.log, sshd usualy refuses login if the permissions on the homedir are borked, like world writeable etc
[22:16] <jrib> squelos: I just kept seeing authorized_keys2 and wanted to point out the file does not have a '2'.  Where exactly did you add your key?
[22:16] <Losha> LateralForce: dunno about System Monitor Applet, but 'top' will show you separate core load if you type "1"
[22:16] <madjoe> Losha: ssmtp works like a charm.. thanks, for the best advice regarding my question!
[22:16] <Losha> madjoe: excellent...
[22:17] <squelos> jrib : ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for both regular user and root. mgolisch : hum, i dont remember changer permissions.
[22:17] <LateralForce> Losha, ok thanks. kinda sucks to not see the separate cores in the applet.. i have to click it when ever i want to check the loads
[22:17] <Gnea> sam555: did you catch that?
[22:17] <nom_nom> for networking, i'm assuming there's supposed to be a network icon in the places menu? if so, i have a problem, 'cause mine's not there.
[22:17] <jrib> squelos: right, you need to make sure you have the right permissions
[22:17] <nmvictor> Losha: yea, jrib is right, in just installed the repos version and i still get the error, is the default install directory /usr/local/? i dint pass any parameters to the ./configure script
[22:18] <jrib> nmvictor: it's usually /usr/local/, yes.  So when you type 'moc', it's probably calling /usr/local/bin/moc and not the repository's version
[22:18] <squelos> jrib => yeah, well i tried them, but i never really used permissions before, so i dont know which ones to apply. btw, its a debian server so its in CLI.
[22:18] <LateralForce> Losha, do you know where i can post feature requests to System Monitor?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> nom_nom: run: nm-applet in the alt+f2 thing  you will get an icon in the notification area
[22:18] <nmvictor> jrib: so whats should i do?
[22:18] <jrib> squelos: well just give ~/.ssh/ 700 and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys 600
[22:19] <jrib> nmvictor: uninstall the version you compiled
[22:19] <sam555> Gnea: i installed it, but I don't know how to use it and i've been searching the lrc chat for directions
[22:19] <squelos> thats what im just after doing :D
[22:19] <squelos> do i need to restart the daemon ?
[22:19] <Losha> LateralForce: um, not sure. Maybe http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[22:19] <datadigger> squelos: no
[22:19] <mgolisch> squelos: only if you modify its config
[22:20] <chai> is there any way to test if my swap is working? like... a program/command that forces my system to use swap?
[22:20] <nom_nom> ActionParsnip: nothing's coming up...
[22:20] <Gnea> sam555: ah, try this:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[22:20] <sam555> Gnea: kk
[22:20] <jrib> chai: swapon -s
[22:20] <squelos> same :/
[22:21] <nmvictor> jrib: thanks, it worked, now here comes another problem
[22:21] <penguinv> Computer not freezing today. CD-drive empty. Been playing NO videos.:   Now on my igoogle page I see that the target ad only shows one tiny square. In Chrome. Wot in FF? It says I  musst haev Javascript enabled. I look at preferences and I do. FF shows none of the Target ad.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> nom_nom: usually it runs, strange, maybe its in administration
[22:21] <jrib> squelos: can you use password logins?
[22:21] <sam555> Gnea:where do I find the paste?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> nom_nom: i dont use gnome so not sure
[22:21] <squelos> so i dont know what to do. Im gonna give up i think. Its just my personnal computer at home anyways.
[22:21] <Gnea> sam555: wait and it will spit out a url
[22:21] <chai> jrib, yea, that works, but if i do 'free -m' i'm not using any of my swap. i opened up a bunch of programs and still no swap is used
[22:21] <jrib> chai: so, that means you don't need to use swap, that's a good thing...
[22:21] <squelos> jrib : yeah, but i put them to no to try the key auth
[22:21] <mgolisch> nom_nom: do you have any nic thats not configured by the interfaces file at all?
[22:22] <rahduke> someone please tell me how to fix my computer! It's completely useless this way! please help!
[22:22] <jrib> squelos: ok, well the easy way to setup keys is to allow passwords and just use ssh-copy-id command
[22:22] <squelos> jrib : that is what i used at first :D
[22:22] <mgolisch> nom_nom: i think nm-applet wont show if all availiable interfaces are configured via interfaces file
[22:22] <sie> terry_: I want to run musca in school's ubuntu. :]
[22:22] <chai> jrib, true, so there's no way to test it? i put swappiness up to 10, still nothing
[22:22] <squelos> jrib : can i just delete the ssh config files, and retry ?
[22:22] <sam555> it just said http://pastebin.com
[22:22] <chai> jrib, maybe useless, i just wanted to force my system to use swap
[22:22] <rahduke> when i minimize applications the animation shows it minimizing to the panel instead of my dock, how can i set the minimize animation to minimize to dock instead of panel in compiz????
[22:23] <xangua> rahduke: remove the 'window list' applet
[22:23] <jrib> chai: it's fine.  But you need high swappiness to have the system use swap more aggressively methinks
[22:23] <nmvictor> I installed ubuntu in my iBook which is what i am running but its <enter> key is disfunctional, so the is a key next to the arrow keys which has been finctioning as the return key, however, mocp and emacs cant detect this key for return functions, is their a workaround here?
[22:23] <nom_nom> okay, looks like i have more research to do
[22:23] <rahduke> xangua: what do you mean sir?
[22:23] <jrib> squelos: umm, you can delete ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server, sure
[22:24] <jrib> squelos: you should probably add some verbose flags when you ssh and read the server's sshd log I guess if you are still stuck
[22:24] <xangua> rahduke: right clic in the 'windows list apple' and select 'remove'
[22:24] <abstrakt> nmvictor, sure... use vim :P
[22:24] <penguinv> Computer not freezing today. CD-drive empty. Been playing NO videos.:   Now on my igoogle page I see that the target ad only shows one tiny square. In Chrome. Wot in FF? It says I  musst haev Javascript enabled. I look at preferences and I do. FF shows none of the Target ad.  OK here's my syslog thing.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396963/
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[22:24] <ActionParsnip> nmvictor: does it create an event in xev ?
[22:24] <rahduke> xangua: where is the window list applet? do you mean my notification area?
[22:25] <nmvictor> abstrakt: i like emacs and i think i wanna stick with it
[22:25] <penguinv> <--- wants to learn how to read the syslog by myself.
[22:25] <nmvictor> ActionParsnip: how do i check that?
[22:25] <xangua> rahduke: no, your windwos list applet, where your windows appear....sic.......listed  horizontaly normaly in the inferior panel
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> nmvictor: run the command in terminal and press the enter key
[22:25] <squelos> jrib : and, any idea of how i could socksify a whole application thru my SSH tunnel ?
[22:26] <sam555> Gnea: can i cut and paste it the regular way?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> nmvictor: xev shows the codes generated when the system recieves input
[22:27] <Gnea> sam555: is it not returning to the prompt?
[22:27] <jrib> squelos: well -D lets you create a port that you can point apps to, but maybe you are asking about tsocks?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> nmvictor: does the enter key make an event?
[22:28] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396967/
[22:28] <squelos> yeah, i know about the -D. If i want to tunnel for example ports UDP port ranging from 200 to 300 thru my SSH tunnel, how should i do ?
[22:28] <nmvictor> ActionParsnip: ok, it works at the terminal, e.g w3m <followed_by_the_key> launches w3m, or did you mean a running command that leaves the terminal input open?
[22:28] <sam555> Gnea: that is from hand.  the pastebinit just returned the http://pastebin.com link without numbers
[22:28] <henkpoley> Is there any documentation on the "recovery+" system of 10.04 ? Is there anything I need to do after the empty screen blinking cursor ?
[22:28] <jrib> !10.04 | henkpoley
[22:28]  * penguinv flexes biceps to get attention.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> nmvictor: leave the terminal open and press keys, you will see the output update with codes etc, once you knwo whats what, press the offending key
[22:29] <Losha> squelos: tuneling udp ports over ssh requires extra help, see udptunnel...
[22:29] <henkpoley> Also, there used to be a way to boot linux like boot=/bin/bash what is the equivalent for Ubuntu ?
[22:29] <sam555> Gnea: i need to relocate. brb in 15
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: i had that with a partition in fstab that wasnt physically present, also check xorg.conf if you made one
[22:30] <xubi> hi
[22:30] <nmvictor> ActionParsnip: i know what you are asking for, it works with command like you said but i dont have an example,would you please give me one common such command?
[22:30] <xubi> ubuntu 10.04 beta 1 is opened to download ?
[22:30] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: I don't get *in* the system at the moment, I'll probably roll back (vmware) and try again later, but if I can fix it just by hacking in the regular ways I'd try that
[22:30] <Gnea> sam555: ok
[22:30] <chai> just got an "outofmemory" error in java. swap still not being used... i'm convinced something's up
[22:31] <squelos> losha : is udptunnel a chan ? or are u talking about a program ?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: boot to liveCD then
[22:31] <henkpoley> I'll see if I have one around
[22:31] <llutz> squelos: a package: udptunnel - Tunnel UDP packets over a TCP connection
[22:31] <Losha> squelos: udptunnel is a program (apt-cache search udptunnel). SSH only tunnels tcp, you need udptunnel to tunnel udp packets....
[22:31] <xubi> ubuntu 10.04 beta 1 is opened to download ?
[22:32] <henkpoley> It's init=/bin/bash btw
[22:32] <squelos> yeah im just after ready. damn. thought it was gonna be easy.
[22:32] <gui1> hi everyone, i was wondering if i can see who is using what bandwidth in my home network
[22:32] <nonewmsgs> i am having a terrible time with ac'97 drivers.  i have tried numerous things and i just want to know if there are any cheap linux pci soundcards
[22:32] <PenguinV> I dont get any sound on this page.  http://spacemachines.net/ampache/   --- backstory = <penguinv> Computer not freezing today. difference? CD-drive empty. Been playing NO videos.: BUT today on igoogle page I see that the target ad only shows one tiny square -In Chrome. Wot in FF? FF shows none of the Target ad, says "must have Javascript enabled," Preferences says I do.  --- OK here's my syslog thing for today.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/396963
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts | nmvictor
[22:33] <xubi> ubuntu 10.04 beta 1 is opened to download ?
[22:33] <Losha> nonewmsgs: sound is always an issue with linux systems. Search newegg for cheap PCI cards and check the reviews to find one which people say works with ubuntu...
[22:34] <nmvictor> ActionParsnip: ok, it tried a command though i am not sure if it was the best example, but i dint see any characters
[22:34] <nonewmsgs> losha thanks
[22:34] <Gnea> PenguinV: why are you giving us syslog?
[22:34] <gui1> hi, how can i search for chat rooms in here?
[22:34] <Gnea> gui1: that question is better asked in #freenode
[22:34] <CharbeL> i installed adobe flash player for firefox but when i join an application in facebook it doesn't work properly can anyone help ?
[22:34] <PenguinV> Gnea because they asked me for it yesterday.. so I thought I'd plan ahead.
[22:34] <gui1> ok thanks
[22:35] <llutz>  gui1  /msg ALIS help
[22:35] <Losha> gui1: what are you looking for? Google irc + subject ...
[22:35] <Gnea> PenguinV: firefox and syslog do not tend to interact.
[22:36] <PenguinV> gui1 /list but look in the freenode window for you example. Warning might be long. could limit it by /list -something or other try help list
[22:36] <gui1> llutz, sorry i don't understand
[22:36] <Losha> PenguinV: I noticed your overly large biceps. There's nothing interesting in your syslog. Try #firefox...?
[22:36] <llutz>  gui1  type into your irc input-line:      /msg ALIS help
[22:36] <xubi> ubuntu 10.04 beta 1 is opened to download ?5D
[22:36] <Gnea> PenguinV: do you have any addons for firefox installed, like noscript?
[22:36] <gui1> Losha, i would like to know if there is a way to know who is using what bandwidth on my network
[22:36] <Gnea> gui1: don't.
[22:37] <llutz> !repeat >xubi  ask at #ubuntu+1
[22:37] <gui1> :S
[22:37] <PenguinV> gnea, I'm going to reboot and see it it changes. thanks for telling me that. (now that you mention it I remember I read that yesterday on a web page. so much to learn so little time. Yesterday it was freezing.)
[22:38] <Duncan-NC> 
[22:39] <Losha> gui1: um, see http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[22:40] <Gnea> gui1: so yeah, /msg alis help   will work
[22:41] <CharbeL> hi
[22:41] <CharbeL> anyone can help ?
[22:41] <The_Tick> with what?
[22:41] <CharbeL> i installed adobe flash player for firefox but when i join an application in facebook it doesn't work properly can anyone help ?
[22:41] <llutz> m(
[22:42] <digitalfiz> is there a tool for ubuntu like little snitch for osx?
[22:42] <The_Tick> CharbeL: does flash work on other sites?
[22:42] <The_Tick> digitalfiz: you're looking for a firewall I think
[22:42] <digitalfiz> a very verbal firewall
[22:42] <CharbeL> The_Tick, yes
[22:42] <necrologist> hi, could someone please tell me a command to recursively copy .epub files only?
[22:42] <gui1> Gnea, why did you tell me not to type that in the first place, is there a risk?
[22:42] <Vigo> CharbeL: Did you install it from the repositories?
[22:42] <llutz> gui1: its just a command to get help
[22:42] <gui1> Losha: thanks
[22:43] <sam555> gnea: i'm back.  Any ideas?
[22:43] <Gnea> gui1: had to make sure it was legit
[22:43] <CharbeL> Vigo, i installed it using terminal command
[22:43] <snxs> anyone know where i can download a linux-installer.sh for unreal tournament 2004 ?
[22:43] <nonewmsgs> the few ubuntu users said this is good.  anyone else have any opinion http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829130001&cm_re=sound_card_pci-_-29-130-001-_-Product
[22:43] <The_Tick> digitalfiz: why you'd actually want that, I don't know
[22:43] <Gnea> sam555: not seeing anything too odd, what about syslog?
[22:44] <The_Tick> digitalfiz: basically it's an outbound connection firewall which pauses connections to the network until they are approved
[22:44] <digitalfiz> The_Tick, just nice to get alerts when an application tries to make an outgoing connection without me giving permission first
[22:44] <sam555> Gnea: Can I just copy the whole thing again instead of pastebinit
[22:44] <The_Tick> so find something which is the equivalent
[22:44] <Vigo> CharbeL: Was it or is it a deb package and or did it come from an Official Source?
[22:44] <The_Tick> digitalfiz: try searching freshmeat first
[22:44] <gui1> llutz, i know now, but Gnea wasn't sure, my question is he/she was so cautious? is there a risk of something, what did he/she belive it could be?
[22:44] <The_Tick> ok, what is Landscape?
[22:45] <The_Tick> oh nevermind
[22:45] <The_Tick> some web app for updating servers
[22:45] <llutz> gui1: no idea, i  hadn't realized that i have to ask him before giving help
[22:45] <Gnea> sam555: pastebinit is really easier and safer, plus you can tell it to use a different pastebin site, just look at the manpage
[22:45] <sam555> Gnea: syslog or syslog 1 or syslog 2.gz?
[22:45] <Gnea> sam555: syslog
[22:45] <CharbeL> Vigo,  i donno
[22:45] <sam555> Gnea
[22:45] <sam555> kk
[22:45] <Vigo> CharbeL: I ask this because Adobe10 is in the Repositories, that is about as official or safe as you can get.
[22:45] <Losha> necrologist: you would use find e.g. something like: find . -name \*.epub -exec cp '{}' targetdir \; <-- note all the weird quotes and backslashes, they matter!
[22:45] <Gnea> gui1: some people like to troll
[22:46] <nmvictor> I installed ubuntu in my iBook which is what i am running but its <enter> key is disfunctional, so the is a key next to the arrow keys which has been finctioning as the return key, however, mocp and emacs cant detect this key for return functions, is their a workaround here?
[22:46] <Vigo> CharbeL: Did go to Adobe site and follow directions from there?
[22:47] <sam555> Gnea: I have to run some people off property.  brb :(
[22:47] <necrologist> Losha: thanks
[22:47] <CharbeL> Vigo, when i installed ubuntu there wasn't adobe flash package
[22:47] <Vigo> CharbeL: There is, now
[22:47] <Typos_King> CharbeL    you can install it from the repos ->   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree;
[22:47] <CharbeL> Vigo, yes i used to search in the website it works the same
[22:48] <nmvictor> i get this errro during bootup and so my iBook wont connect to any wireless: eth1: error loading firmware agere_sta_fw.bin
[22:48] <Losha> nonewmsgs: those reviews for ubuntu are as good as it gets. The only way to do better would be to buy it locally from somewhere you could return it if it doesn't work...
[22:48] <gui1> Gnea, ok so there are no risks by typing anything here, are there? (except when i click an external link..)
[22:49] <Vigo> CharbeL: What Typos_King put is correct, or look in the Software Center and install it from there, I think 10 is the version.
[22:49] <Gnea> gui1: nope, alis is safe
[22:49] <Losha> digitalfiz: I'd like something like 'little snitch' for Ubuntu too. Did you find anything?
[22:50] <CharbeL> Typos_King,
[22:50] <CharbeL> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[22:50] <CharbeL>   flashplugin-nonfree
[22:50] <CharbeL> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:50] <CharbeL> Need to get 1,770B of archives.
[22:50] <CharbeL> After this operation, 41.0kB of additional disk space will be used.
[22:50] <FloodBot4> CharbeL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <The_Tick> which file do I configure the dns servers list in?
[22:50] <gui1> Gnea, ok but i mean in general, every chat is secure?
[22:50] <nonewmsgs> Losha, the other one i was looking at is this http://cgi.ebay.com/mini-USB-External-Sound-Card-Vista-XP-2000-Mac-Linux_W0QQitemZ120531636672QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c103ed1c0
[22:50] <Vigo> !pastebin | Charbel
[22:51] <madsen> I'm having a really weird Gnome related font issue here. If I type only numbers, they're rendered in serif, but once a letter is introduced, it all changes to sans (and I'm using a sans font)...
[22:51] <CharbeL> sorry
[22:51] <Vigo> Charbel: That looks correct , from what I could see of it.
[22:51] <CharbeL> ok Vigo
[22:51] <squelos> still having trouble ... i restarted the whole thing to get the keys to work but this is what i get after try to log in using the key i just created http://pastebin.com/txDYP5Fx
[22:52] <digitalfiz> Losha, the only thing i found is a brainstorming session at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23333/
[22:53] <Losha> nonewmsgs: I'm not crazy about the ebay usb device. There's not even a model number, you only have their word for it that it works on "Linux". I'd go for the pci card...
[22:53] <acsia> hello
[22:53] <madsen> I've got screenshots of the font weirdness too: http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ff-fonts-1.png (without letters) and http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ff-fonts-2.png (with letters in the string). Anyone?
[22:53] <acsia> I have a question about disk transfer
[22:54] <nonewmsgs> losha thanks a lot bro!  i will go for the pci cards
[22:54] <acsia> when I transfer files to my pen drive, it goes from 20m/s to 3/4 and evertyhign is slow
[22:54] <acsia> cpu high etc...
[22:54] <madsen> I've googled and googled, but I can't seem to find anything on this particular font issue. :(
[22:54] <Lord-Readman> hello what package has Gnome > System > Admin > printing ?
[22:54] <Typos_King> madsen:    can't tell myself
[22:54] <Gnea> gui1: pretty much
[22:54] <acsia> it looks to be wa fault
[22:54] <madsen> Typos_King: ?
[22:54] <acsia> but can t figure out how to debug/solve this
[22:55] <Vigo> Lord-Readman: I think that is cups
[22:55] <acsia> tons online with nothing straighforward
[22:55] <madsen> Typos_King: You got it too?
[22:55] <Vigo> !cups | Lord-Readman
[22:55] <Losha> digitalfiz: thanks, I added my vote for it...
[22:55] <Typos_King> madsen:    could be many really
[22:56] <madsen> Typos_King: I'll be happy to try any idea you may have. I'm at my wits end here.
[22:56] <acsia> anybody?
[22:56] <Sato1> hello, i am new to ubuntu. Using Gnome
[22:56] <acsia> good tips on configuring hard drive
[22:56] <madsen> Typos_King: I installed KDE just to test. No problem there.
[22:56] <gui1> Gnea, ok thanks
[22:56] <darolu> Lord-Readman, system-config-printer?
[22:56] <Sato1> can anyone help me about how to keep and  delete chat logs ?
[22:57] <darolu> !enter | acsia
[22:58] <Vigo> Sato1: Is in a few logs. One is kept by this service, one is stored on your machine.
[22:58] <acsia> all my system goes down when data transfer is in progress, any clues?
[22:59] <Sato1> i am using linux, acer aspire. New to all these things
[22:59] <acsia> darolu, better?
[22:59] <Sato1> where can i find the logs on my machine ?
[22:59] <darolu> Sato1, /var/log
[23:00] <Sato1> thanks
[23:00] <Vigo> Sato1: Welcome to Freedom to be Free, Please take a long look at the Forums and Official Documentation.
[23:00] <madsen> No ideas for my font problem?
[23:01] <sam555> gnea: it's' faster to paste it all then for me to read how to make pastebinit work :(
[23:01] <Vigo> madsen: I saw Fonts, are you installing or adding fonts or is it a display thing?
[23:01] <Gnea> sam555: seriously, just:  cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit     it's a lot of text, so it will take a little time
[23:01] <darolu> acsia, yeah better, now we can see what you are talking about =) (earlier I only read "anybody?"); check how many free RAM you have with "free -m", if you are transfering a very large file, make sure the file-system you are writting to supports it.
[23:02] <madsen> Vigo: It's a display/rendering thing.
[23:02] <acovrig> !botsnack
[23:02] <Vigo> madsen: Do you have Desktop Effects enabled, there are three selections in that.
[23:02] <Gnea> sam555: but I'm seeing a similar problem where it's outputting the url
[23:03] <madsen> Vigo: http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ff-fonts-1.png vs. http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ff-fonts-2.png (it changes the rendering when I type a letter).
[23:03] <Gnea> sam555: try it like this:  cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:03] <acsia> darolu the transfer starts at 25 and goes down to 2 after 10/15s
[23:04] <acsia> top mention wa
[23:04] <acsia> but can't seem to find any info on configuration
[23:04] <Vigo> madsen: Yes, I see, what are the settings in the Effects area?
[23:05] <madsen> Vigo: By 'effects', you mean Compiz?
[23:05] <eremite> acsia, try using ONE line instead of several in a row, it makes it easier to read and follow.
[23:05] <markvandenborre> any recent problems with gmail and the firefox version in ubuntu 9.10?
[23:05] <Vigo> madsen: Right click desktop, look at Visual Settings
[23:05] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396983/
[23:05] <eremite> markvandenborre,  no, why would there be?
[23:06] <markvandenborre> eremite: because firefox and other gecko-based browsers crash out of it since tonight
[23:06] <markvandenborre> rather strange
[23:06] <madsen> Vigo: Same problem with Compiz off (no effects) and on (my own custom settings).
[23:06] <eremite> markvandenborre, FireFox and family have always worked for Gmail on my machines.  Always.
[23:06] <markvandenborre> eremite: same thing here
[23:07] <Vigo> madsen: Ok, it was a shot, let me look at the forums.
[23:07] <eremite> markvandenborre, sounds like a Mozilla problem, not an Ubuntu-specific problem.  Could also be on the server side of things, ie: Gmails fault.
[23:07] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396983/
[23:08] <sam555> Gnea: it worked with the -b to ubuntu pastebin
[23:08] <mustafa> I've installed OpenVPN on Ubuntu, and after installation when I go to the page to manage the client it asks me for the root username and password while there is no root on Ubuntu. And when I try to use my own username it refuses and says this account doesn't have permissions. Any ideas?
[23:08] <markvandenborre> eremite: I suspect it to be on the server side, since all gecko based browsers segfault
[23:08] <darolu> markvandenborre, open firefox's errors console with Ctrl+Shift+J while using gmail to see what the problem is.
[23:08] <madsen> Vigo: I've already searched the forums, but you may be luckier (or more skilled) at it. :)
[23:08] <Gnea> sam555: awesome. okay, what is the make/model of your projector?
[23:08] <madsen> Vigo: I even created a new user, just to see if it was there by default - it was. :-/
[23:08] <Vigo> madsen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1114918&highlight=dektop+effects and more on the way....
[23:08] <markvandenborre> darolu: hard to do so when it segfaults after less than three seconds
[23:08] <Doorbuster> i have downloaded virtual box and start my session, but it says "FATAL: No bootable medium found!  system halted!  Any help?
[23:09] <ilovethislinuxst> help
[23:09] <darolu> markvandenborre, launching firefox from cli may give useful (or any) information too
[23:09] <mneptok> markvandenborre: works fne here in both Firefox and Prism. maybe you have an extension that's causing the problem?
[23:09] <ilovethislinuxst> help
[23:09] <eremite> Doorbuster, you have to set an iso or CD to boot first.
[23:09] <darolu> !ask | ilovethislinuxst
[23:09] <arand> Doorbuster: have you attavhed a bootable media to it?
[23:09] <markvandenborre> mneptok: no, other gecko-based browsers have the same issues (and no extensions)
[23:10] <markvandenborre> darolu: it segfaults, that's the only useful info I get
[23:10] <ilovethislinuxst> i need to know if i'm signed in
[23:10] <markvandenborre> on the cli
[23:10] <mneptok> markvandenborre: like i said, it works fine for me using both Firefox and Prism on 9.10.
[23:10] <markvandenborre> mneptok: thanks for that information
[23:10] <ilovethislinuxst> help
[23:10] <mneptok> markvandenborre: you're welcome.
[23:11] <archman> hello, guys - do you know if there's a way to get the remaining time from the "sleep" command? I want to get the remaining time for some script i'm doing. anything possible?
[23:11] <ilovethislinuxst> help
[23:11] <Doorbuster> I have looked in my old OS files, where do I need to look for or how do i set an ISO to boot first?
[23:11] <madsen> Vigo: I may be missing something, but how is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1114918&highlight=dektop+effects related to my problem?
[23:11] <mneptok> ilovethislinuxst: with what? signed in to what? what are you asking for help with?
[23:11] <CalmvsKhaos> ilovethislinuxst, its nice that they unbanned you, but saying help 3 times in a row isnt gonna help , now 4 times. ask the question already and wait
[23:12] <ilovethislinuxst> i need to know how to sign in to nickserve and what are you talking about banning?
[23:12] <mneptok> ilovethislinuxst: ask in #freenode
[23:12] <sam555> gnea: i'm looking at the syslog and i don't see the even that caused the projector crash.  That was between 8:00 am to 9:00 am.
[23:12] <ilovethislinuxst> ok, ty
[23:12] <sam555> Gnea: i think I'm gonna have to go and make it happen again so that it will show up in the log.
[23:12] <Vigo> madsen: #4, Picksen
[23:12] <madsen> ilovethislinuxst: /msg nickserv help
[23:12] <darolu> markvandenborre, I just checked and gmail works fine in my machine, you can use the binary you download from mozilla's website, see if that one fails too; it's really weird
[23:12] <eremite> Doorbuster, read the help documentation that came with VirtualBox or go to YouTueb and search for VirtualBox tutorials.  You should research an application before downloading it.
[23:12] <Vigo> madsen: srry, Picklesworth
[23:13] <Doorbuster> thanks
[23:13] <CalmvsKhaos> ilovethislinuxst, ummm im pretty sure my memory serves me right, but if not, nevermind :D
[23:13] <Gnea> sam555: I can see the reboot switches, but wasn't sure if that was due to the projector or not
[23:13] <eremite> Doorbuster, how to use virtual box http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-DiPRrE3Bg  This user uses windows, but everything is the same during setup.
[23:13] <pyro_> any gurus bored for a nvidia card issue?
[23:13] <ikonia> just ask the question
[23:13] <Doorbuster> Awesome!!  thanks a bunch!
[23:14] <Vigo> madsen: That person makes alot of sense, if you remember Beryl, then you will understand Compiz a little better.
[23:14] <eremite> Doorbuster, Google is yoru friend.  Usually, if you ask for help here someone is just going to google the answer and echo it in here.  Sometimes its easier if you just skip the whole irc step and just google it yourself.
[23:14] <markvandenborre> darolu: it seems to be a problem with all gecko based browsers I've tested so far
[23:14] <pyro_> I am running ubuntu 9.10 using a nvidia 7600 gs, before installing then nvid drivers, i had setup for tv out put and it worked fine, once i upgraded the tv went blue
[23:15] <markvandenborre> darolu: thanks for the help, but it's after midnight over here
[23:15] <markvandenborre> off to bed
[23:15] <Vigo> pyro_: Not BLUE! meep!
[23:15] <madsen> Vigo: Thanks, but I still don't get it. He's just talking about WM's/DE's. Nothing about font rendering issues that I can see...?
[23:15] <sam555> gnea: the reboots I did were before the 9:15 one.  I rebooted at 9:15 for software install.
[23:15] <sam555> Gnea: http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony-VPD-MX10.htm
[23:16] <pyro_> the picture is still there but just extreme blue hue
[23:16] <claptrap> Anyone know how I can get Dolphin to just MOVE files when I drag them, without showing that little popup asking which action I wanna do?
[23:16] <sam555> Gnea: so do you need the reboot info from the projector?  I can make that happen in 20 min if that's ok.
[23:16] <FeiRuoWa> hi! jw...anybody have a good tofu recipe? query, please! ty!
[23:16] <Gnea> sam555: sounds good
[23:16] <msquared86> hey guys i have a wacom bamboo pen and i ahve it restricted to my left monitor but i have to use seperate x screens to do so and i would rather have twin view anyone know how i can use twin view and restrict my tablet to my one monitor?
[23:16] <MHz128> hello world
[23:17] <sam555> Gnea: also, do you want a better pastebin of xorg, or that also needs to be updated when I switch on the projector?
[23:17] <Vigo> madsen: Right, he is and is not, I would have to search the official Compiz and then Ubuntu sites to see what and where the error is, that is a bug, or appears to be, did you report it?
[23:17] <Gnea> sam555: just an FYI, I'm waiting for some hardware to show up, should be here any minute. I will need to shut the system down to install it at some point.
[23:17] <MHz128> what is the name of the program for recording videos(with audio) from the desktop? (rtpm streams more specifically)
[23:17] <Gnea> sam555: sure, both would be fine
[23:17] <sam555> Gnea: gotcha.  Will you be back on again?
[23:17] <Gnea> sam555: I'm always on :)
[23:17] <sam555> Gnea: awesome! your awesome!
[23:18] <sam555> gnea: i'm gonna move to the projector location.  see you in a bit
[23:18] <Gnea> ok
[23:18] <madsen> Vigo: I don't think the issue is related to Compiz, since it's also present when Compiz is turned off. (Even in EvilWM.)
[23:18] <shadyboy> hey guys. Just a quick question if anyone knows. I have an Xpress 1100 card in my labtop, and I know that the last "official" drivers for that card, is in Catalyst 9.3 . Thing I am wondering on, is if I can install Catalyst 9.3 in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
[23:19] <Soul_Sample> how can I change the default cpu freq scaling to 100%? it's always ondemand by default, and I don't like ondemand
[23:19] <Vigo> madsen: There is a bug reporting tool in Ubuntu.
[23:19] <Vigo> madsen: after re-boot?
[23:19] <Ghost1227> anyone know a way of changing the gnome panel icon under 9.10 that actually works?
[23:19] <madsen> Vigo: I would report it, but it wouldn't make much sense before I know a little more about where the bug is. Right now I only know it's probably related to Gnome/GTK - or the way they use the font rendering libraries.
[23:19] <madsen> Vigo: Well, after turning off Compiz and restarting X.
[23:20] <madsen> pyro_: Pyro? Of UrT / Pistols and Spas fame? :)
[23:20] <Vigo> madsen: Oh ok, you seem to know a bit, have you tried JWM , or Flux and such and tested the rendering om those?
[23:21] <pyro_> ....?
[23:21] <madsen> pyro_: Sorry, apparently not. Thought you were someone else. Sorry.
[23:21] <pyro_> its aight
[23:21] <pyro_> i get that alot
[23:21] <Ghost1227> no one huh
[23:21] <madsen> Vigo: Tried Fluxbox. Still there in the GTK apps (so a GTK issue I guess).
[23:21] <Soul_Sample> Ghost1227: if you mean the icon next to the Applications menu, the easiest way to change it is in ubuntu-tweak
[23:22] <pyro_> still no help with my tv out blue hint issue?
[23:22] <ruge> hey folks
[23:22] <Ghost1227> Soul_Sample: i read that it didn't work in 9.10
[23:22] <madsen> pyro_: If I knew, I'd help you. :)
[23:22] <Soul_Sample> Ghost1227: i changed it today in 9.10
[23:22] <ruge> "sudo nvidia-settings" is to access the nvidia driver as admin yes?
[23:22] <Vigo> madsen: Sure sounds like it, have yo9u tried a new spin like LXDE?
[23:22] <madsen> Vigo: Yup - still there.
[23:22] <Lord-Readman> Hi, cups and printer config were not the right packages
[23:23] <Losha> pyro_: all I can suggest is to review /var/log/dpgk.log to see what packages were upgraded, and to use synaptic to back out any upgrade that looks video-related...
[23:23] <Lord-Readman> looking for the package that has the Gnome > System > Admin > Printing
[23:23] <madsen> Vigo: Funny thing is, it's not present on my gf's netbook, but she upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 - I did a fresh install of 9.10.
[23:23] <Soul_Sample> is there a way to change the default cpu frequency in ubuntu?
[23:23] <dmdevotee> hay people
[23:24] <Vigo> madsen: Ok, is either Gnome, which it sounds like, or a hardware thing. I think the Launchpad Bug Report tool also interacts with Gnome, but let me confirm that.
[23:24] <Boondoklife> hay dmdevotee!
[23:24] <claptrap> Anyone know a way to just /move/ files in Dolphin without needing to go through the little menu that pops up?
[23:24] <dmdevotee> anybody knows if there is a plugin for gnome for "bit to bit" file comparison?
[23:24] <dmdevotee> or any software?
[23:24] <henkpoley> Soul_Sample: personally I just gave up about that, there are about 3 or 4 systems in parallel setting cpufreq
[23:25] <dmdevotee> for gnome commander?
[23:25] <madsen> Vigo: It's ok. I can check that out myself. Could be a hardware thing too - I AM on a MacBook.
[23:25] <Losha> dmdevotee: there are cli apps for file comparison e.g. cmp and/or diff if that's what you mean?
[23:25] <henkpoley> Soul_Sample: Though I had some success by manipulating the min and max frequencies that the kernel allows
[23:25] <pyro_> Losha: tryed to gedit that blank file, sry kinda noobish here
[23:25] <Soul_Sample> henkpoley: i know, it's really bugging me. the default is "ondemand", and it's not doing it for me, i would liek to make it 100%, BUT since I have 4 cores i have to use 4 cpu applets and it looks messy and unnecessary :S
[23:25] <nishanth> hey can someone tell me how to degrade to karmic kaola from lucid lynx?
[23:25] <Vigo> madsen: Ok, sounds more like Hardware, as you stated, it works fine on one, and not on yours.
[23:26] <dmdevotee> losha: yes, i mean, an app like "total commander"
[23:26] <jrib> !downgrade | nishanth
[23:26] <madsen> Vigo: Well, she did upgrade. Plus, I'm using some experimental repos (I like my apps fresh and buggy), so it could be both I guess.
[23:26] <CharbeL> Vigo, adobe flush player still not working properly
[23:26] <bartek> gg
[23:26] <daftykins> what logs would a hard lockup be shown in on Jaunty, post-reset?
[23:27] <Vigo> madsen: If you wanna sell that Mac, nevermind, I have one in the works now,,,
[23:27] <ruge> can someone help me with an nvidia problem? :O
[23:27] <jrib> ruge: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[23:27] <Losha> pyro_: open a terminal and type more /var/log/dpkg.log. In it, every package change is listed chronologically. If you know when you did the upgrade, find video-related packages (that's the hard part) that changed on that date and then use synaptic to install the previous version again...
[23:27] <dmdevotee> there is an option into total commander that compares files, and it gives "different" or "equal"
[23:27] <madsen> Vigo: Well, it's 3 years old and I'm NOT buying a Mac next time around. :)
[23:27] <CalmvsKhaos> eeeks there was both a xorg and kernel update recently!!, i really get nervous when updating those two, has anyone had any issues with it?
[23:27] <madsen> CharbeL: How is it "not working properly"?
[23:27] <Losha> dmdevotee: man cmp and man diff....
[23:28] <Vigo> CharbeL: Did you purge,remove the old package/file?
[23:28] <dmdevotee> but diff can make folders and selection?
[23:28] <ruge> I just installed 9.10 and got the latest 185 nvidia driver. I try to set my resolution using "sudo nvidia-settings" but everytime I want to save it says "failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[23:28] <Vigo> madsen: going OT now, splitscreen.
[23:28] <CharbeL> madsen, facebook applications are not opening properly it always have lists missed
[23:28] <Losha> dmdevotee: diff can work on folders. Dunno what you mean by 'selection'?
[23:28] <sam555> Gnea: can you show me the command you had again?
[23:29] <CharbeL> Vigo, no
[23:29] <dmdevotee> i want a gui to do that, in fact, i am searching for a gui in every action on linux
[23:29] <madsen> Vigo: :) Thanks for your help. :)
[23:29] <sam555> Gnea: the one to get to paste to ubuntu pastebin?
[23:29] <CharbeL> how can i remove the old one ?
[23:29] <epaphus> hello... how can I disable the memory slot (sd card) in the OS level at ubuntu? also i need to disable wireless driver permanently and network driver. Possible?
[23:29] <ruge> VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[23:29] <jastor> hmm .. whicj of the scim-<blablabal> programs is it that popups the annoying "input help" popup in the lower right corner? killed all four applications before realizing i should see which ones which ;)
[23:29] <nishanth> so it there no way to downgrade to karmic kaola?
[23:29] <Gnea> sam555: cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:29] <Gnea> sam555: and my hardware just showed up
[23:29] <sam555> Gnea: thank you!
[23:29] <dmdevotee> losha, i mean, in a folder, compare some files with some files in other folder
[23:29] <Vigo> CharbeL: You may want to or need to do that, one moment let me find the page that explains that for you better.
[23:29] <jrib> nishanth: not supported, reinstall if you believe you must
[23:30] <Spaztic_One> Is there a way to install updates without needing to restart your computer; Karmic
[23:30] <jrib> Spaztic_One: sure, as long as you don't install a new kernel
[23:30] <CharbeL> ok Vigo
[23:30] <Gnea> Spaztic_One: the only reason you'd need to restart is if it installs a new kernel
[23:30] <madsen> Spaztic_One: Just don't restart it... You won't get the benefits of the new kernel, but logging out and back in should give you the benefits of the rest of the upgrades.
[23:30] <pyro_> Losha: how do i skip to the end :P
[23:31] <Spaztic_One> =\ I've had two or three updates lately that have said that I needed a restart for all of the updates to finish.
[23:31] <nishanth> too many problems with lucid lynx
[23:31] <Losha> dmdevotee: both cmp and diff can compare two files which you name...
[23:31] <Gnea> Spaztic_One: yeah, rebooting isn't essential as it is in windows, but it can't hurt. you could also tell the system not to install upgrades as much.
[23:31] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396991/
[23:31] <dmdevotee> thanks losha, but it's too uncomfortable for everyday use
[23:31] <Losha> pyro_: tail -100 /var/log/dpkg.log | more  will show the last 100 lines...
[23:32] <jrib> dmdevotee: what's your use case?
[23:32] <Losha> dmdevotee: you compare files daily?
[23:32] <madsen> Spaztic_One: All upgrades are completely installed BEFORE restart. It just won't boot your new kernel unless you restart (obviously).
[23:32] <Gnea> sam555: okay, did you try to plug it in then?
[23:32] <Losha> nishanth: it's beta code. By definition, it has problems...
[23:32] <nishanth> the login screen does not appear when i boot the computer
[23:32] <sam555> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396992/
[23:32] <dmdevotee> no, but frecuently...
[23:33] <jrib> nishanth: #ubuntu+1 for help with lucid
[23:33] <Vigo> CharbeL: This may help, but still searching because you stated that you are in the discovery mode..and yes, there is a learning curve here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428223&highlight=remove+flash
[23:33] <sam555> Gnea: that was after it was plugged in and I had to rebooted
[23:33] <Losha> dmdevotee: why?
[23:33] <Gnea> sam555: okay. have you ever read this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221908
[23:33] <sam555> Gnea: i plug it in and it does nothing.  I hit fn+f5 to switch to the projector and the screen on the laptop goes black.  the projector does not recognize it.  then it won't go back to the regular screen
[23:33] <madsen> lol, diff too uncomfortable for every day use? I don't think I've EVER heard that before.
[23:33] <dmdevotee> sometimes i don't want to know what differences are between some files, only want to know if the files are the same
[23:34] <Losha> dmdevotee: cmp does that...
[23:34] <jrib> dmdevotee: but *why*?
[23:34] <sam555> Gnea: have not...reading
[23:34] <dmdevotee> cause i like to have full control, and i get some files corrupted...
[23:34] <Losha> madsen: :-)
[23:34] <jrib> dmdevotee: that sounds ridiculous, fix the corruption issue then :)
[23:34] <CharbeL> ok thx Vigo
[23:34] <mark__> need help
[23:34] <madsen> dmdevotee: 'diff -q <file1> <file2>' - that'll just tell you whether or not they're the same.
[23:35] <Spaztic_One> When Lucid is out, is that going to be an update, or ..?
[23:35] <CalmvsKhaos> is there a way to create a separate /home if its already been created?
[23:35] <mark__> trying to install network driver from cd using synaptic and synaptic does not see the disk
[23:35] <jrib> dmdevotee: it really seems to me like you want to accomplish something else and think it's the best way when in fact it's probably not
[23:35] <CalmvsKhaos> i mean move my /home to a separate partition, not create
[23:35] <mark__> when i try to install get a error saying to insert the disk
[23:35] <Vigo> CharbeL: Maybe this one also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[23:35] <mark__> ubuntu sees it but for some reason synaptic does not
[23:35] <jrib> !separatehome | CalmvsKhaos
[23:36] <Vigo> CharbeL: I am still looking for the Flash one,,
[23:36] <CalmvsKhaos> jrib, ty
[23:36] <jrib> Spaztic_One: yes, update-manager will offer it to you
[23:36] <CharbeL> ok Vigo
[23:36] <dmdevotee> jrib: in fact, i am searching for a plugin or program, that does like the "sincronice directories" of total commander
[23:36] <TheMozart> how do I install Virtualbox in Ubuntu so I can install XP from Ubuntu?
[23:36] <jrib> dmdevotee: unison or rsync then
[23:37] <mark__> trying to install network from cd synaptic for some reason does not see the cd but ubuntu does
[23:37] <Losha> mark__: synaptic doesn't install from disk normally. Can you do a manual install from the files on the cd?
[23:37] <TheMozart> !virtualbox
[23:37] <n-iCe> hi, why when I use sudo zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdc1 says permission denied :|
[23:37] <mark__> @losha how do i do that
[23:37] <dmdevotee> thanks!
[23:37] <Vigo> CharbeL: This is a little older, but the Restricted Extras does apply: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1067107.html
[23:37] <KruyKaze> how do i reconfigure grub in karmic?
[23:38] <jrib> n-iCe: because the redirection is being done by your shell which is run by your user.  Use something like: zcat file | sudo tee other-file
[23:38] <Losha> dmdevotee: so you're never going to tell us why you have so many corruptions?
[23:38] <jrib> !grub2 | KruyKaze
[23:38] <CharbeL> thx Vigo
[23:38] <dmdevotee> i dunno...
[23:38] <dmdevotee> i think
[23:38] <dmdevotee> it's a network media tank i have
[23:38] <Losha> mark__: depends on what's on the CD. Can you see its contents?
[23:38] <mark__> ?
[23:38] <mark__> ?
[23:39] <mark__> @losha yes its a ubuntu insstall disk
[23:39] <Vigo> CharbeL: The 3rd post on this one sorta explains the purge of Adobe. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310288
[23:39] <dmdevotee> that corrupted a lot of isos
[23:39] <mark__> @losha ubuntu sees the disk fine synaptic does not
[23:39] <Losha> mark__: er, what exactly are you trying to install?
[23:39] <mark__> @losha network driver
[23:39] <Spaztic_One> jrib madsen Gnea :: Thanks for the info. =)
[23:39] <dmdevotee> and it's very useful on jdownloader
[23:40] <Vigo> CharbeL: /purge is a Terminal Command, and is very strong,
[23:40] <mark__> @losha i use a usb dvd drive
[23:40] <sharperguy> How do I just connect to a normal windows VNC server? All the documentation I can find just gives me special situations. I installed a client but it doesn't give me an option to authenticate
[23:40] <dmdevotee> because it extracyt everything in same folder
[23:40] <mark__> @losha does synaptic have issues with usb drives?
[23:40] <CharbeL> ok Vigo
[23:40] <CharbeL> thx
[23:40] <ePax> I can not get clear command to work in chrooted shell... /usr/bin/clear and clear_console exist but im getting this error clear: 'xterm': unknown terminal type
[23:40] <madsen> mark__: You have to enable the CD source in System > Administration > Software Sources - it's in the Ubuntu Software tab.
[23:41] <n-iCe> jrib:  I don't get it
[23:41] <dmdevotee> and i extract the files on a sub-folder, and then delete the files on the other folder (by comparing them)
[23:41] <mark__> @madsen ive done that
[23:41] <jrib> n-iCe: what don't you get exactly?
[23:41] <n-iCe> how to use it jrib
[23:41] <ReciprocalofZero> Why is it so hard to get devoiced/banned in here?
[23:41] <madsen> mark__: Have you pressed 'reload' in Synaptic?
[23:42] <jrib> n-iCe: instead of doing "sudo zcat X > Y" instead do "zcat X | sudo tee Y"
[23:42] <jrib> ReciprocalofZero: erm, what do you mean?
[23:42] <sam555> gnea: not sure if I gave you this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/396992/
[23:42] <ReciprocalofZero> I want to make this my BIOS boot screen: http://www.madonnashots.com/hp1.jpg
[23:42] <mark__> @madsen yes i can see the update cannot install it synaptic is not seeing the cd
[23:42] <pyro_> ok, asking again tv out is has a harsh blue tint, happened when install of nvid drivers, before was fine
[23:42] <jrib> ReciprocalofZero: ok?
[23:42] <jrib> ReciprocalofZero: what does that have to do with banning people?
[23:43] <madsen> mark__: Oh, in that fashion. Does it give you any errors?
[23:43] <n-iCe> jrib:  sudo zcat boot.img.gz | sudo tee /dev/sdc1
[23:43] <Losha> pyro_: what drivers were you using before you installed the nvidia drivers?
[23:43] <jrib> n-iCe: no need to sudo at the beginning
[23:43] <Vigo> CharbeL: I do not care who says or directs you to run a command, use common sense and make backups, one mistake or one letter in a terminal can pretty much wipe a system of all or basic data.
[23:43] <pyro_> Losha: whatever the ubuntu install had i guess, installed nvid to use desktop effects
[23:43] <mark__> @madsen yes please insert the disk labeled ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala release i386 in drive /cdrom/
[23:44] <jrtayloriv> My sound works fine unless I have headphones plugged in. How can I diagnose and fix this?
[23:44] <Vigo> CharbeL: And that is not just Ubuntu, that is any OS.
[23:44] <jrib> n-iCe: except I guess you probably don't want the junk also printed to stdout, so maybe redirect stdout to /dev/null, or just use sudo -i, do what you must with the redirection, and then get out
[23:45] <CharbeL> ok Vigo
[23:45] <madsen> mark__: And you're sure that your cdrom is mounted on /cdrom and not /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0)?
[23:45] <mark__> @madsen ill check
[23:45] <Losha> pyro_: look in /etc/X11. Is there an xorg.conf and an xorg.conf.bak or something like it?
[23:45] <cdsboy> can some help me figure out how to make /dev/sdc1? It is supposed to exist but for some reason when i start up it isn't given a device page. Relevant info here http://pastebin.com/MqkMjwbs
[23:46] <mark__> @madsen for some reason i have two cd roms drives
[23:46] <mark__> listed
[23:46] <Vigo> CharbeL: Take a look at and most likely download this PDF, it has been around for a while and is very useful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052065&highlight=user
[23:46] <pyro_> Losha: there is one i had to manually save it to get tv out working again as the nvid wouldnt let me save
[23:46] <madsen> mark__: I bet that's the problem. Synaptic's (ie. APT) is looking at the wrong one.
[23:47] <bagz> connect
[23:47] <mark__> @madsen removed second one still not working
[23:47] <n-iCe> jrib: a lot of weird characters and sybols are being showed is it normal
[23:47] <jrib> n-iCe: yes, see my last message
[23:47] <mark__> @madsen second one was my flash drive i use u3
[23:47] <madsen> mark__: Removed?!? What? How?
[23:47] <mark__> @madsen read above
[23:48] <madsen> mark__: Oh, but still... Do you have both /cdrom and /media/cdrom ?
[23:48] <Losha> pyro_: I think you can edit the file to not use the nvidia drivers. Can you paste your current xorg.conf to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[23:48] <madsen> mark__: What does 'ls -l /cdrom' give you?
[23:49] <neezer> is there a way to tell if I have LAMP on my server at home? I did a desktop install, so I doubt it but I'd like to know.
[23:49] <CharbeL> ok Vigo thx for helping
[23:49] <dmdevotee> hey please, how can i execute unison or rsync??
[23:49] <pyro_> Losha: how i give you a link?
[23:49] <tuxuser> cdsboy: you don't "make" sdc1, it comes up automagically. If it doesn't show there's likely a hw problem... cabmes or disk dying
[23:50] <mark__> root root 11 2010-03-17 15:17 /cdro > media/cdrom
[23:50] <Losha> pyro_: just type the url it gave you here.
[23:50] <madsen> mark__: Ok, cool. Then that's not the problem.
[23:50] <Vigo> CharbeL: You are very welcome, and enjoy the Freedom. pass it on.
[23:50] <pyro_> Losha: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/0sBLF8F9
[23:50] <madsen> mark__: But that just baffles me even more.
[23:50] <Losha> cdsboy: your /dev/sdc1 looks fine. You /dev/sdd and /dev/sde look a mess though...
[23:50] <haavaros> Hi everyone! I'm trying to make a USB live "disk" from an image on a network share on LAN. I can't find the path to it, but the link to the share is on my desktop and I have access. What do I do now?
[23:51] <mark__> @madsen i had this very same problem before the way it was fixed was someone had me re add the cdrom drive
[23:51] <madsen> neezer: LAMP is Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP, so look for those. If you're running Ubuntu, you can put a check mark next to 'Linux'. :)
[23:51] <CharbeL> thx
[23:51] <mark__> @madsen i had wipped out my cdrom and we have to readd it once that happend it worked
[23:51] <Thuuugs> Just wanted to confirm the ubuntu kernel 2.6.31-20 has trim enabled or?
[23:51] <tuxuser> neezer: search for apache mysql and php or perl in the package manager.
[23:51] <Take0n> I don't know what I have done but everytime I login to ubuntu I have to manually run metacity and then compiz settings otherwise I have no window borders etc. can this be solved somehow?
[23:52] <Thuuugs> or is there a way if i grab 2.6.33.1 from kernel.org that I can enable trim within ubuntu?
[23:52] <gerrin> is there anyway that i can see someone on my networks itunes library and transfer files with my ubuntu laptop
[23:52] <Losha> pyro_: line 60 is where it tells your system to use the nvidia driver. Any idea what the previous xorg.conf had for that line?
[23:52] <Thuuugs> apparently its disabled by default and the ubuntu team enabled it?
[23:52] <neezer> tuxuser, madsen, is this what I would use to put a website on my home server?
[23:52] <cdsboy> Losha: it won't mount, see bottom on the log
[23:52] <madsen> mark__: Hmm... I'm sorry. I'm afraid I'm all out of ideas. :(
[23:52] <tuxuser> dmdevotee: apt-get install rsync && man rsync
[23:53] <pyro_> Losha: i didnt back up before saving, so no idea, i imagine default drivers of some sort
[23:53] <madsen> Losha: Doesn't xorg.conf get backed up automatically when it's overwritten by a script?
[23:53] <madsen> Losha: Oh nvm, I see now that it wasn't overwritten by a script.
[23:53] <cdsboy> Losha: and i realize the others are messed up xD
[23:54] <tuxuser> neezer: short answer is: yes, most open source cms are written in php and require apache + mysql, e.g. joomla
[23:54] <mark__> is there a way for me to put a driver from synaptic onto a usb drive and install it on another computer
[23:54] <Losha> madsen: pyro_: yeah, it's supposed to make a backup. I think pyro_ overwrote it though. Try "nv" instead, I *think* that's the default nvidia driver...
[23:54] <neezer> thanks tuxuser
[23:55] <eremite> how do I access synaptic packages via the terminal?
[23:55] <tuxuser> neezer: glad to help :-)
[23:55] <madsen> eremite: apt-get and apt-cache. :)
[23:55] <terry_> mark__: Sure
[23:55] <mark__> how would i go about doing it?
[23:55] <pyro_> Losha: well i guess i will type it in and save and see what happens?
[23:55] <Losha> cdsboy: definitely not normal, I dunno what to do about it. Have you tried rebooting?
[23:55] <eremite> madsen, I know apt-get.  Does apt-cache read the list of packages?
[23:56] <terry_> mark__: Just tell synaptic to just download.
[23:56] <LongDouble> how do I block someone on empathy?
[23:56] <LongDouble> help
[23:56] <cdsboy> Losha: yes.
[23:56] <Losha> pyro_: well, keep a backup copy of the one that (almost) working, in case we mess it up royally...
[23:56] <terry_> mark__: Download only.
[23:56] <tuxuser> eremite: aptitude search <some name>, then apt-get -s install <package> just to see what would be downloaded and installed, then apt-get install <package> to actually install it.
[23:56] <madsen> eremite: You mean, like searching?
[23:57] <pyro_> Loasha: well if i can see anything after reboot i'll be back in a min
[23:57] <eremite> tuxuser, madsen : I want to look at a complet list of packages in synaptic, not do a keyword search nor search for a specific package and dependancies.  Is it possible to list the entire list of packages with one command?
[23:57] <tuxuser> mark_: download the .deb file containing the driver, and copy that file to the usb stick.
[23:57] <Losha> pyro_: don't need to reboot, just restart the X server....
[23:57] <haavaros> I'm trying to make a live USB, but with the disk creator i can't browse to my server on my LAN to specify the iso image. Any way I can change that?
[23:58] <Blue1> how to you create a volume label in ubuntu (i.e. how do you have a hard drive a name/label?)
[23:58] <jrib> !label | Blue1
[23:58] <Losha> cdsboy: the only thing that occurs to me is maybe the volume needs to be chkdsk'ed. You need a windows system for that....
[23:58] <Aggrav8d> hi, ubuntu.  I just got my brand new box and before I go install crazy i wanted to get some advice.  basically, i want to run win7 and ubuntu at the same time.  my understanding is i need vmware to do this.  correct?
[23:58] <madsen> eremite: Hmm, I don't know actually... I know how to list all installed packages from a command line, but to just list all packages...? Sorry, no.
[23:59] <pyro_> Losha: ok how.....
[23:59] <jrib> Aggrav8d: vmware is one option
[23:59] <jrib> !virtualizers | Aggrav8d
[23:59] <Vigo> pyro_: There is a list at Debian and Ubuntu.
[23:59] <Blue1> thanks
[23:59] <madsen> eremite: apt-cache search ".*"   gives me 29262 results. My guess is that's all packages (in my repos).
[23:59] <Aggrav8d> jrib - i'd still like to be able to play some of th newer games.  what do you recommend?
[23:59] <Myrtti> Aggrav8d: at the same time, or on the same computer?
[23:59] <digitalfiz> Aggrav8d, i recommend virtualbox its free and works perfect
[23:59] <MozillaGuerrilla> Tried doing a ubuntu install on a XP system & I kept hitting a blue "UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT" screen. Finally I F1'd it into a BIOS setting but still cldnt manage to do it. Anything anyone can think of to help get past this problem? The guy said the printer wldnt print anythng from the HD, Im thinking the Hard disc must be fried?