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dmdevoteemy computer make beeps when i shutdown kubuntu, is this normal? it can be disabled?00:01
dmdevoteeshutdown or restart00:01
Anpuhi, got a problem00:02
Anpui upgraded to lucid, but after upgrading and restart, i cant start X00:02
Anpugot an error: Failed to load module "radeon" (module does not exist, o)00:02
Anpuanyone know how to solve?00:03
daskreechdmdevotee: When?00:08
daskreechYour BIOS beeps at certain times00:08
Matissehi00:08
daskreechStartup and shutdown are two of those times00:08
daskreech!hi | Matisse00:08
ubottuMatisse: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!00:08
Typos_Kingdmdevotee:     I think it may be a 'notification' sound, you can turn those off under System settings > advanced > notifications00:09
MatisseI'm experiencing some problems since i upgraded to KDE 4.4. I got 2 tasklines and no window borders (those with close- and maximize-button)00:09
Matissehas somebody already solved this problems?00:10
daskreechMatisse: can you jump to a virtual terminal ?00:10
Matisseyes00:10
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Matisseits working fine00:10
Matisseonly this to bugs00:10
Matisse*200:10
dmdevoteetypos_king: is there a notifications menu under  System settings > advanced > notifications in kubuntu 9.10? i heard that some differences of KDE versions..00:12
dmdevoteei have the menu in spanish, and i can't find "notificaciones" or something else00:13
Typos_Kingit may not be in Advanced, but it's there00:13
dmdevoteeoh yes!00:13
dmdevoteethanks00:13
Matissedaskreech, do you have an idea?00:13
dmdevoteebut i am talking about beeps of the motherboard, not sound clips00:15
Typos_King... like... can you describe them?00:15
Typos_KingI know, you mean to say coming from the mb speaker, rather than the soundcard00:16
Typos_Kingbut... dunno. can't say, could even be a bios setting00:16
dmdevoteedaskreech: the motherboard beeps when i reboot or shutdown00:16
dmdevoteeonly happens in kubuntu00:16
Typos_Kingmight be drivers..00:17
dmdevoteei thinked that could be there an option, since only happens in kubuntu (not tried other kde linux distribution)00:17
Typos_Kingmaybe try installing the linux-backports-modules00:17
Typos_KingI think so too00:17
Typos_KingI have it, and I don't get it :|00:18
dmdevoteeyour motherboard doesn't beep when shutdown kubuntu?00:19
Typos_Kingnope00:19
Typos_Kingthen again, I don't use kde WM00:19
Typos_King:)00:19
daskreechdmdevotee: what else do you have installed?00:20
daskreech Typos_King: likely the kde4init not the wm that's causing the beep00:21
dmdevoteeif i remember correctly, i have knowledge of that matter since the first reboot...00:22
dmdevoteewhat is wm?00:22
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dmdevoteei'll try adding blacklist pcspkr to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist00:25
djusticedamn. i was seconds away from telling him what a feep was... o well...00:26
daskreechdjustice: A feep?00:28
schultzaHow do I change the default action of a click in KDE? I keeps wanting to double click/launch the file. I just want the first to select, not launch.00:35
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kwtmAnyone ever get a program showing up as an icon in the Kicker panel ("systray") that you can't get rid of?  How do you get rid of it?01:13
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Guest20925how do i view how much data i have downloaded?01:29
daskreechkwtm: Hmm?01:37
daskreechKicker as in KDE3?01:38
daskreechschultza: did you look in System Settings -> mouse ?01:38
kwtmKDE3.  I have this little icon that apparently Adobe decided to install when I installed the Adobe PDF reader.01:38
kwtmI want to get rid of it but right-clicking does not show that option in the menu.  I don't know what the program is called so I can't killall it.01:38
kwtmIs there some way to ask Kicker what program is showing that icon so I can kill -9 it?01:39
daskreechkwtm: I'd do a grep on processes and look for something adobenamed01:42
kwtmdaskreech: Tried that already.  No way for Kicker to tell us what icon is taking up space?01:43
daskreechkwtm: Nope Kicker is just a container01:43
daskreechIt doesn't know anything about the contents01:43
sea__Hey, I found a bug in fluxbox. What should I do?01:43
daskreechsea__: File the bug01:44
sea__as soon as I figure out how to describe it. :\01:45
kwtmdaskreech: Can I double-click the icon, open the window, and then somehow find the process that is making the window?  I mean, xkill knows what process owns the window right?  Can I find out, too?01:52
daskreechkwtm: It knows the Xwindow descriptor01:53
daskreechwhich X translates to a PID01:53
kwtmOkay.  How do I get the Xwindow descriptor?  Will that lead me to a Process ID?01:54
daskreechkwtm: What are you trying to do?01:54
kwtmI'm trying to find out which process spawned the process that owns the window, so I can get rid of that process (which probably owns the icon in my systray).01:55
kwtmAwww, ffffrick!!!01:56
kwtmI found it.01:56
kwtmIt was named "Adobe", not "adobe".01:56
kwtmNote to self: set alias for "ps -ef | grep -i", not just "ps -ef | grep". :P01:56
daskreechkwtm: :-)01:56
daskreechkwtm: Propietary companies Llove caps01:57
kwtmKILL SynchronizerApp-binary!!!!01:58
kwtmYess!!  It worked.  Stupid adobe!  Trying to stick bloatware on my linux computer.01:58
daskreechkwtm: Probably started with the KDE session02:00
daskreechshould stop now hopefully02:01
kwtmdaskreech: No, no.  My KDE session is about 2 months old now.  I'm pretty sure it appeared when I launched that Adobe Plug-In reader in Firefox because, *somehow*, Firefox is incapable of doing "open with" when it loads a URL: it has to either SAVE to a file or OPEN it in a firefox tab using whatever evil plugins some proprietary company dreamed up.02:02
kwtmI guess I should update Firefox.  Since I'm still on 3.0.x and it's now, what, 3.3.x?  3.4.x?02:03
daskreech3.602:05
manu_alguna espa;ola___02:06
manu_alguna espanola02:07
daskreech!es02:07
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.02:07
kwtmHey, I just checked, and my 8.04 (which is currently the latest LTS version) still uses Firefox 3.0.x.  Boy, this long-term support thing isn't what I thought it was.02:07
daskreechkwtm: It has long term support02:07
kwtmCan't wait for 10.04 so I can get some support.02:07
daskreechyou have support02:08
daskreechjust for firefox 3.002:09
daskreech:-)02:09
kwtmdaskreech: Well, I'm thankful for that.  I guess what I'm saying is that everyone else is using 3.5+ on Firefox and I'm feeling a bit vulnerable on 3.0.x , but as long as it has no major vulnerabilities, I don't need the latest and greatest.  THough 3.2.x would have been nice.02:09
daskreechkwtm: Yeah FOSS moves far too quickly02:10
kwtmdaskreech: Yeah, the point of my switching to Linux was so I wouldn't be trapped on the upgrade treadmill.  After all, Linux runs on legacy hardware and MS doesn't.  But I felt very alienated with this KDE4 thing.02:11
daskreechI'm amazed at the crazy difference in KDE 4.0 and KDE 4.402:11
daskreechkwtm: How so?02:11
kwtmOnce Kubuntu 10.04 comes out, I'll feel ready to spend time learning KDE4 knowing it will be worthwhile.  But as you yourself said, the differences between KDE4.0 and KDE4.4... well, I don't want to have to keep tinkering with my computer.  I just want it to work.02:12
kwtmI wrote a bazillion DCOP scripts for KDE3 and now I have to convert them all to Dbus scripts for KDE4.02:12
daskreechkwtm: What constitutes working?02:12
daskreechkwtm: oooh yeah02:12
kwtmdaskreech: "working" = 1) It does what I want it to do, and 2) I know how to make it do what I want it to do (implying that I don't have to spend time relearning, no matter how much "better" the new system is)02:13
daskreechYou should probably go to the forums and ask people to help with the conversion02:13
kwtmdaskreech: It's not a simple conversion, either... I tried using dbus and it kept saying "no permission" or something.  THis is for something as mundane02:14
kwtmas mundane as pasting a timestamp into the clipboard (Klipper) which I do instinctively probably a dozen times an hour.02:14
kwtmIf it doesn't work, my workflow grinds to a halt.  Then I'm back to tinkering.02:14
daskreechI think that Klipper can do that by itself now02:14
kwtmdaskreech: Well, I have my own very compact 6-character timestamp which I brand my files with (e.g. my photos are renamed that.)02:15
kwtmFor example, the time now is A3HJFQ02:15
daskreechOk02:15
daskreechright02:15
daskreechso you need the dcop section of that to be converted to dbus02:16
kwtmLast year the first digit was 9 (for 2009), and before it was (8).  THe 3 means March.  H means 17 (March 17 now).  Etc.    So all my scripts are there, and it's not like I can't do bash programming.02:16
kwtmI just don't want ot have to do it all over again.  I might even end up writing a Dcop->Dbus wrapper to avoid having to recode my scripts.02:16
kwtmI am willing to re-learn stuff every few years, so I plan to set aside some time to learn KDE4.  But when it first came out, it was way too unstable for me to use.02:17
kwtmAnyway, gotta run.  Thanks for listening!02:17
daskreechWonder if someone did that already02:17
daskreechok02:17
daskreechlater02:17
toorhello02:31
zhangjiahello02:32
zhangjiai have a problem:how to set the font courier new 8 in vim?02:35
zhangjiaanyone knows? ths!02:36
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daskreechzhangjia: yes03:02
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AbstractSpectreHi guys, how can I uipdate my wireless device drivers...?03:32
daskreechWhat device?03:34
daskreechzhangjia: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Change_font03:35
zhangjiaok thanks! i will try it!03:37
AbstractSpectreDaskreetch Not sure how to check...isnt there a sudo apt-get command?  Seems like I used one a while back and it fixed my horrible connection issues03:39
daskreechAbstractSpectre: your wifi card?03:41
daskreechlshw -C metwork03:42
AbstractSpectreEmmm....yessir, i think...wireless lol03:42
daskreechlshw -C network03:42
AbstractSpectreproduct: AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)03:42
AbstractSpectre??03:42
daskreechAbstractSpectre: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=895817003:45
AbstractSpectreThere was something like linux-back(something)-intrepid or something I once used...03:52
Bonsterwhats the command to tell bash u dont want case sensitive when finding files?03:52
AbstractSpectreOh wat, it was linx-backports-03:53
AbstractSpectreAm I Karmic version or?03:55
AbstractSpectreKubuntu 9.1 is karmic right?03:55
yofelAbstractSpectre: yes03:56
yofelAbstractSpectre: and I guess you're searching for linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-20-generic ?03:56
daskreechAbstractSpectre: Yes03:58
daskreechBonster: grep -i03:58
AbstractSpectreHow can I add windows XP to the grub list so I can dual boot with xp?04:02
daskreech!xp04:04
ubottuXP, or "eXtreme Programming" is a style of programming, for more information see: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/04:04
daskreechh04:04
daskreechha04:04
AbstractSpectrelol04:04
daskreech!windows04:04
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents04:04
FloodBotK2daskreech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:04
AbstractSpectreNo wories04:04
daskreechCurses04:04
daskreech!grub204:04
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub204:04
daskreechAbstractSpectre: See if that helps04:04
AbstractSpectrelol kk  and how can I view the bug updates for my version?04:04
AbstractSpectre:P04:04
daskreechAbstractSpectre: What do you mean?04:09
AbstractSpectrenvm got it :P04:09
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krloshola05:07
bazhang!es | krlos05:08
ubottukrlos: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.05:08
jasinhi05:40
daskreech!hi05:40
jasinI just installed kubuntu :)05:40
jasinI am happy :)05:40
daskreechjasin: yay! :)05:40
jasinso much better than any microsofty or apple OS I've used.05:41
daskreechyou just installed it :)05:41
daskreechGive it time05:41
gkffjcsHey all, is it possible to run two instances of kde as the same user at the same time on one system, I have setup Xvfb, a virtual xserver, which I use with x11vnc, and I want to start a second instance of kde using display:1, but I get a bunch of dbus errors, and then it quits with errors.06:07
gkffjcsIs there a way to do this?06:08
shadeslayergkffjcs: yeah but not at the same time though06:09
gkffjcsthat's annoying... :-(06:11
daskreechgkffjcs: yes you can but it's incredibly annoying06:12
daskreechwhy do you want to do that?06:12
gkffjcsMy laptop is sort of an obnoxious resolution, the ultimate solution for me, would be to have x11vnc, run xrandr, change the res, when I connect, and then set it back when I disconnect, since my laptop is not a good res for most remote connections, but I've been searching through the x11vnc man pages, and haven't figured out how to do that yet.06:14
gkffjcsSo I thought starting a second session in Xvfb woudl be the next better solution but I guess not.06:14
gkffjcsIf anyone has any ideas, I'd be happy to hear them06:17
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areichmanhello07:03
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daskreechareichman: hi07:15
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daskreechgkffjcs: So when you connect remotely you can't see anything?07:16
gkffjcsI'm actually using a combination, of stuff, and xrdp.. I have managed to make remote connections, but I can't get kde to work fully, If I start dolphin, I can use that as a sort of poormans desktop. Using application:/ to launch stuff etc..07:18
gkffjcsright now I'm researching xpera...07:18
gkffjcsit doesn't seem to do exactly what I want, but it's written in python, and I'm a somewhat decent python hacker, so I might be able to mess with it, which would be sweet.07:19
gkffjcsbut for now I'm going to bed... G'night!07:19
ryan_hello?07:35
FireCrotchryan_: hello!07:37
ryan_anyone on07:38
FireCrotchryan_: there are plenty of people on :) Though this can be quite a slow channel sometimes07:39
FireCrotchryan_: Are you having a problem that you're looking for help with?07:39
ryan_helloooo07:39
ryan_yeah i guess i kinda am07:40
iconmefisto!ask07:40
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:40
FireCrotchWell, what kind of problem are you having?07:40
ryan_where are the other channels07:40
ryan_im new to this so whats a version request?07:41
FireCrotchryan_: I was simply asking your IRC client what client it actually is - that's what a CTCP Version request is07:42
ryan_uh.... i dont get it07:42
FireCrotchWhat part?07:42
FireCrotchWhen someone sends a Version request, your IRC client (in this case, Konversation) tells them that you're using Konversation07:43
FireCrotchAs for your original question - where are the other channels - you can press F5 and it will bring up a list of all of the channels on Freenode07:44
ryan_ok but didnt you know i was on that already and ok ill try that07:44
FireCrotchit may take a while for the list to appear - its quite a long list. Is there a specific channel you're looking for?07:46
ryan_well i pressed it, the list came up but there is no channels in it07:47
ryan_o wain nvm its up. thanks07:47
FireCrotchNo problem :) It takes a while since there are so many channels07:48
ryan_yeah it keeps on going. it said user friendly when i came here but idk about that07:50
FireCrotchIf you've never used IRC before, it can be a little intimidating. It's a lot different than any other chat service that you're used to.07:52
ryan_hardly use the others so im pretty sure they all would be confusing :)07:53
FireCrotchWell IRC is definitely the most confusing07:53
ryan_dosent seem too hard. i just am trying to find a classic "chat" room. all of them seem to be about info on other things07:54
FireCrotchryan_: One thing to note is that this IRC network, Freenode, is primarily focused on providing support for various open source software programs07:55
iconmefistoryan_: you can join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat07:55
FireCrotchThere are other, more social channels, though, such as #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic07:56
ryan_linux needs to label there software a bit better then07:56
iconmefistoryan_: why? how is konversation labelled?07:57
FireCrotchryan_: there are other IRC networks that are more for social discussions and stuff like that.  The program connects to Freenode (and this channel in particular) by default so that users who need help can access it easily07:58
ryan_well in any case, there is something i have a question about. though im not sure if it can be answered. o and its labelled as a user friendly chat07:58
ryan_its an OS question07:59
iconmefistojust ask08:00
FireCrotchWe can definitely try to help with that :)08:00
ryan_well im on linux and when ever i try to run a disk in the drive, as soon as it closes, my desktop goes blank and the only thing it lets me do is click on the menu. is there a reason its doing this?08:01
iconmefistoryan_: you mean when you eject the disk?08:03
ryan_no right as i put it in. any disk. movie, software, music, just any disk.08:04
ryan_even the linux disk wont work. i boot it in my computer first and when it runs the OS from the disk, none of the icons show. so i cant format the hard drive. i can only partition it alongside windows08:06
iconmefistoryan_: and that's all you're doing? just inserting the disk make your desktop go blank?08:06
ryan_the icons just go away and it dose not let me into anything. it still runs but its like it locks out everything but the menu08:07
noaXessgood morning08:07
noaXessi have a kickogg item that i have deleted, but i see it, if i search in kickoff.. how to remove it really? i use kmenuedit to edit kickoff.08:07
iconmefistoryan_: so you haven't installed kubuntu yet? you're running the livecd?08:08
ryan_havent heard ov that. what is it?08:08
iconmefistoryan_: you're using the word "it" quite a lot and I'm having trouble understanding what all the "it"s refer to08:09
skramer_morning, I got the message from NickServ that my nick is already registered08:09
skramer_but when I want to identify, it says it is not registered yet08:10
skramer_so what am I doing wrong?08:10
FireCrotchskramer_: Is your nick supposed to have an underscore at the end?08:10
skramer_FireCrotch: no, actually t should be without the underscore08:10
ryan_sorry. what is kubuntu08:10
FireCrotchskramer_: have you previously registered your nick?08:10
skramer_FireCrotch: I just put the information into Quassel, nothing else08:11
skramer_FireCrotch: anything else I need to do?08:11
FireCrotchskramer_: If you've been connected to the network all night but away, you'll have to re-identify with Nickserv. there was a netsplit, and you were probably on the side of it that NickServ wasn't on08:11
FireCrotchskramer_: just do /nick skramer  then /msg nickserv identify yourpassword08:12
iconmefistoryan_: kubuntu is the linux distribution that this channel is devoted to. http://www.kubuntu.org08:12
skramer_FireCrotch: I just wonder what should be my password, then08:12
skramer_FireCrotch: I never needed to give a password08:12
ryan_idk if i do or not then. im not that educated on anything with linux08:13
FireCrotchskramer_: did you ever register your nickname? skramer is registered, since about a year ago, I'm assuming this was you.08:14
skramer_FireCrotch: I'm not sure if I did...08:15
FireCrotchskramer_: you probably had to enter your password into quassel when you set up quassel08:15
FireCrotchskramer_: if so, it's likely saved in quassel, so you can try just closing and restarting it - it should automatically set you up :)08:15
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AhmedHi08:16
ryan_hello08:16
skramer_FireCrotch: ok, I'll try again08:16
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skramer_FireCrotch: I already re-started, but NickServ still complaining...08:16
Guest14268What is GDebi Package installer (gdebi-KDE)08:16
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skramer_FireCrotch: and whenever I start Quassel, I get the underscore at the end of my nick08:17
\AhmedGuest 14268 is me :)08:17
macoGuest83539: the program that pops up to install software when you double click on a .deb08:17
macobah08:17
ryan_ok :)08:17
maco\Ahmed: that was at you08:17
\AhmedOkay thanks08:17
\Ahmedyeah :)08:17
\AhmedOkay one more thing08:17
ryan_wow08:17
\AhmedI have just installed ubuntu yesterday and i heard the upcoming release will be soon so do i have to format again to install Lynx or will i get that by updating ?08:18
maco\Ahmed: youre on 9.10?08:18
\AhmedYeah08:18
macothe updater will offer to take you up to it then08:18
\AhmedUbuntu 9.10 KK08:18
\AhmedSo how many MB ? will it be any idea ? cause at the moment i am having a slower connection08:19
\AhmedThe same way like now updater says Ubuntu 9.10 availble ? so its gonna add Lynx soon, right ?08:20
iconmefisto\Ahmed: lynx? you mean the browser?08:21
FireCrotchskramer_: if you're the one who registered the nick (which I would assume you are if you've been using it) and you're not able to identify, you might have to get a Freenode staff member to help you out08:21
\AhmedNO no i meant the new Lucid Lynx Long term licence etc i dont know it well08:22
skramer_FireCrotch: and how do I do that? how to contact them?08:22
\AhmedI'm thinking to switch to it when its gonna be on updater as that guy wrote me up there08:22
maco<-- chick08:23
skramer_FireCrotch: I also wonder why there is no "setup" of my nick in Quassel08:23
macoiconmefisto: \Ahmed means lucid08:23
iconmefisto\Ahmed: yes, it will be available some time in april.08:23
skramer_FireCrotch: there is only the nckname, but no further options except rename it or delete it08:23
skramer_FireCrotch: nothing about password, etc.08:23
macoFireCrotch: on the server you can set a nickserv password08:23
macoer..08:24
macoskramer_: that was at you08:24
\AhmedYeah i see but what i wanna know is, will i able to install it through updates as installing KDE (cause i have installed it once) SO is it the very same way ?08:24
\Ahmed:)08:24
macoskramer_: go to networks in your configuration, then go to "auto identify" tab and you can check "nickserv" and give it the password08:24
\AhmedOMG everyone is a geek in here :P08:25
maco\Ahmed: the updater will offer you both normal updates for the current version and the option to upgrade to the new release08:25
FireCrotchit looks like "skramer" is identified right now though08:25
iconmefisto\Ahmed: you can download the lucid (10.04) iso and install it, or you can upgrade your current 9.10 install08:25
\AhmedOh thank you :)08:26
\AhmedIs it the name in full (Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Alpha 1) ??08:26
\AhmedWhich messenger (msn) can i use a webcam on cause i do know the hardware is been installed cause it was connected to the pc while installing ubuntu but how do i use it ?08:27
iconmefisto\Ahmed: almost. the "alpha" part means it is a pre-release version that you can download and install now08:27
maco\Ahmed: well beta 1 is coming out tomorrow08:27
skramer_FireCrotch: it still gives me the underscore :-(08:28
maco\Ahmed: lucid lynx is the development codename. officially, its just plain "10.04" once the final release is out, though you'll see people keep referring to it as "lucid"08:28
maco\Ahmed: kopete (default im client) should work with webcams for msn, i think08:29
iconmefistomaco: no, even after release it is still known as lucid lynx. just as 9.10 is known as karmic koala08:29
maco\Ahmed: though whether your webcam is supported could be a different question08:29
skramer_maco: ok, I found that setting08:29
macoiconmefisto: its not *supposed* to be08:29
macoiconmefisto: because thats just the development codename. its just that we're all stubborn and keep calling it that ;-)08:29
\AhmedOkay Maco :)08:30
iconmefistomaco: how so? it is not a dev only codename at all08:30
skramer_maco: but I guess the password I gave is not correct08:30
macoiconmefisto: some folks, like crimsun, refuse to call released versions by anything other than version number08:30
skramer_maco: because I still get the underscore at the end of my nickname08:30
macoskramer_: might need to talk to freenode staff about a password reset then08:31
\Ahmedi used to use kopete but i couldnt really find much in that cause of having SO MANY OPTIONS and i am sticking to Empathy, WILL anyone tell me how to disable the SAVE CHAT on empathy ?08:31
skramer_maco: how to contact them?08:31
macoiconmefisto: i think its silly as the names are cuter, but *shrug* you'll run into such people sometimes08:31
macoskramer_: #freenode08:31
maco\Ahmed: empathy only does webcam for xmpp/googletalk08:31
skramer_maco: k, thanks08:31
maco\Ahmed: msg webcam support exists in the codebase, but its compiled out of ubuntu's version because it makes empathy crash08:32
iconmefistomaco: if you do this command in konsole, it will show the codename of the release you are running: lsb_release -c08:32
macoiconmefisto: so?08:32
macothe official name is simply 9.10 or 10.0408:32
\AhmedOh well08:33
macoi do keep calling them by the adjectives08:33
\AhmedSo isnt there any messenger that the webcam works on (MSN)08:33
iconmefistomaco: it's not a dev codename. it is the *official* codename of the version, dev version or released version08:33
\AhmedApart from gmail08:33
macobut  like i said, i can thnk of at least one dev who is anal about that being a development codename08:34
FireCrotchDo you call Windows 7 "Vienna" ?08:34
\Ahmedfirecrotch: NO08:35
bucketheadI call it "crap" personally, FireCrotch.08:35
macoor call Windows Vista "Longhorn"08:35
\AhmedHey well It's not crap :P i'm on windows from a very long time !08:35
bucketheadI prefer names personally, I love to get numbers backwards.08:35
iconmefistomaco: it is the dev codename, as well as the release codename08:36
\AhmedAnd by the way all the viruses and keyloggers works perfectly haah on windows08:36
iconmefistomaco: does it get a new codename after release? no08:36
\AhmedAnyone knows what's the most secure OS in Linux ? Mandriva ubuntu fedora ? etc08:36
FireCrotchiconmefisto: If you read the press release for 9.10, you'll note that nowhere in there is it called "Karmic Koala"08:38
FireCrotchhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-91008:38
bucketheadI'm pretty sure that picking a distro based on security is overkill. Between iptables, apparmor, and a good password policy, you should be pretty well set.08:38
\AhmedAnyone here is a cracker ?08:39
iconmefistoFireCrotch: so you're saying 9.10 is not codenamed karmic koala? this is ridiculous!08:39
macoiconmefisto: it was. but now it's 9.10.08:39
\Ahmedhahaha iconmefisto ! HUH08:39
FireCrotch\Ahmed: We don't discuss those kinds of activities in official Ubuntu channels.08:39
FireCrotch!coc08:40
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .08:40
iconmefistomaco: if you do lsb_release -c  why does it show "karmic"08:40
macoiconmefisto: because they dont bother to change it at release08:40
FireCrotchiconmefisto: you can get the same sort of result in Windows 7 probably :) from some Windows command, of course08:40
iconmefistomaco: what you are saying is what is called unfalsifiable08:40
FireCrotchMaybe win7 is a bad example since that was also the codename at one point08:42
jerykubuntu kde is to slow08:42
smokealothttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/karmic/release/08:42
smokealotwas someone looking for the dvd link ?08:42
iconmefistomaco: notice the url above? it says karmic/release08:43
jeryIs some one know how to setup oracle at kubuntu ?08:43
FireCrotchjery: what are the specs of your computer?08:43
FireCrotchiconmefisto: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.10/release/ notice the url? it says 9.1008:44
FireCrotchand goes to the same place :)08:44
llutzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala08:44
FireCrotchWhy the heck are we arguing about what the "right" name is for ubuntu releases08:44
iconmefistoFireCrotch: right, there is a version number and a codename. the only codename 9.10 has is karmic, before and after release08:45
FireCrotchCodenames are used for one purpose and one purpose only - because humans are better at remembering names than they are at remembering numbers08:45
iconmefistosigh08:46
Biosftwhey i got a problem: It seems I am unable to change my clock08:46
corigoHey, where can I find the PPA for 4.4.1?08:47
FireCrotchBiosftw: Right click the clock -> Adjust Date/Time08:47
FireCrotchBiosftw: Have you tried that already?08:47
Biosftwyeah : P but after i set auto adjust or change it manually and pressing apply08:48
Biosftwthe apply button switches to grayscale and nothing happend08:48
bucketheadcorigo: Check the topic.08:48
corigoYes, buckethead, I want to get the ppa's for my Kubuntu 9.10 so I can upgrade to KDE 4.4.108:49
iconmefistocorigo: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/08:49
FireCrotchBiosftw: I see the issue. Does it say at the topic "You are not allowed to save the configuration"08:49
FireCrotchtopic -> top08:49
Biosftwas i see... nope08:50
Biosftwnothing happens08:50
Biosftwjust the color of the apply button changes : P08:50
FireCrotchI believe this is definitely a bug - when you try to change the date/time, it should prompt you for your password08:51
bucketheadkubuntu-backports is where I found mine.08:51
FireCrotchSince changing the system time requires root privileges08:51
Biosftwah ok FireCrotch do you know the command for the clock changing dialog? so i could start it via sudo08:52
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corigothnx08:53
FireCrotchBiosftw: To be honest, I'm not sure what it is. it's part of kcontrol though, so starting that with kdesudo should work08:54
\AhmedDoes ubuntu have any firewall kinda ? or how do i consider it that its SAFE ? :)08:54
bucketheadufw is a front-end to iptables.08:54
bucketheadIts pretty good, for a CLI interface.08:54
FireCrotchBiosftw: alternately, you can set the date/time from the command line, with the date command08:54
jeryhow can i eable 3D view ?08:55
bucketheadApparently there are two good firewall front ends (hooray for google) - guarddog and firestarter08:56
iconmefistoBiosftw: kdesudo kcmshell4 clock08:56
Biosftwiconmefisto:  thx worked (except the automatical setup but nvm)08:59
iconmefistoBiosftw: you mean set time and date automatically? you should be able to set that without kdesudo (that is, just from systemsettings, or right-click the clock in the panel)09:03
Biosftwiconmefisto:  didnt work as FireCrotch there should be something like a prompt asking for root password... but nothing appears09:04
iconmefistogotta go Biosftw. back in about an hour if you want to wait09:07
Biosftwit is not that important09:07
Biosftwso bz09:07
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vbgunzIs there a trusted repo that would allow me to stay on the cutting edge of the nvidia binary for Ubuntu?09:20
vbgunzsomething that wouldn't hopefully conflict with my other packages. just the latest nvidia binary09:21
areichmanvbgunz: I think that the nvidia driver is too closely linked to particular versions of other things to make that possible09:26
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vbgunzareichman: I usually check nvidia.com/drivers for the latest and usually install without a problem. I am on 9.04 and am right now checking out envyng and it is showing me the latest driver to actually be an older driver. I'd just like to take that checking out the way :/09:31
areichmanvbgunz: I'm not sure, I just know that I've run into problems from installing the drivers, gotten incompatible versions and not been able to get X to start09:35
vbgunzareichman: yeah I ran into that in older versions of ubuntu. lately probably since 8.10 I've had nothing but luck with the nvidia binaries09:37
areichmanI haven't upgraded from the default ones for a few versions now :-)09:38
jeryKDE with ubuntu is very very slow...09:46
bucketheadjery: Why do you pop in, throw something like that out, and then leave?09:48
bucketheadI think thats about the third time today i've seen this?09:48
chris____how do i make a key combination to open konsole?09:51
jerybuckethead ,cause i need logout kDE and log in with gnome09:51
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jerymaybe i need add RAM UP TO 4G09:51
bottigerI've tried to manage my start-up services with both "rcconf" and "bum" to make some services start (or not start) automatically. However, it simply does not work. If I disable "mysql" it shows up as disables in both rcconf and bum, but it still starts up when I boot09:53
bottigerany idea what the problem could be?09:53
ubuntuhi10:02
ubuntuI have just installed ATI's crystal center and its saying amdxdg-su  NO SUCH FILE and i can't open it shows an error and NO ati driver found (when the 3D is working)10:03
lukefeilhi10:30
lukefeilis OpenOffice3.2 stable under kubuntu?10:30
skramer_anybody here who knows how to configure the filter rules in KMail?10:37
skramer_which ones have to be first and which ones can be later10:37
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apricotgot a problem with synergy - in opensuse it did work. noe I set up a server in Kubuntu 9.10 and the same windows-XP clients. in the windows clients I always get: 'failed to connect to server: The attempt to connect was forcefully rejected'11:21
lukefeildoes someone have experience with OpenOffice3.2 and Kubuntu9.10 ?12:30
benishorhello12:31
benishorI have kubuntu 9.10 running on an Asus K50IJ series laptop. Does anybody know of a way to disable touchpad taps? it's really frustrating12:32
benishorI experimented removing the psmouse module and while it is better, I would still want to use the touchpad, except not have taps interpreted as clicks12:33
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BluesKaj'Morning12:48
MatisseI'm experiencing some problems since i upgraded to KDE 4.4. I got 2 tasklines and kwin is crashing = no window borders (those with close- and maximize-button)13:09
TheGrammarFreakYo13:13
TheGrammarFreakWhen I have amarok running my 'h' key won't work13:13
TheGrammarFreakany ideas anyone?13:13
TheGrammarFreakKubuntu 10.04 alpha313:14
ubuntuHello Every113:20
TheGrammarFreakAnyone? Any ideas why this would be?13:23
TheGrammarFreakAnd my alt-tab switcher has gone, if anyone knows about that13:24
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spirov92any X gurus here? I'm following http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html to get multitouch gestures13:37
spirov92thescrolling and double taps seem to work, but I want to make 2-finger tap a right click13:38
MatisseI'm experiencing some problems since i upgraded to KDE 4.4. I got 2 tasklines and kwin is crashing (= no window borders those with close- and maximize-button)13:38
spirov92Matisse: the 2 taskbars seem to be caused by a second pannel being added by the default config, I saw that too13:39
Matissespirov92, do you know where this config file is?13:40
robin0800spirov92: there is a touchpad package for kde that can be configured under the mouse settings not sure its installed by default13:41
spirov92Matisse: just right-click on the cashew of the extra panel and choose to delete it13:42
spirov92robin0800: I'll look for that, thanks13:42
benishorrobin0800: do you know what that package is ? I want to disable touchpad taps13:42
robin0800no do a google search or aptitude search perhaps13:43
benishorwhat keywords?13:43
robin0800benishor: theres this but not sure if this is it kcm-touchpad13:45
spirov92robin0800: can you tell me what repository kcm-touchpad was in? I want it, but I can't find it13:48
Matissethx spirov9213:49
robin0800spirov92: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11333513:50
spirov92robin0800: thanks13:52
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spirov92thanks to whoever mentioned kcm_touchpad, it does exactly what I need]14:08
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spirov92hi, how can I check the md5 of a cd?14:35
genii!md514:36
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:36
spirov92genii: thanks14:36
geniinp14:36
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marc-andrewhat do i need to do before i change a gfx cart (from Nvidia to ATI) to avoid a broken xserver ?14:57
geniimarc-andre: I'd suggest to move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia     and then remove with purge the nvidia driver you are using15:03
marc-andregenii: thx, will try that15:07
vertago1Did anyone install the kernal 2.6.31-20?15:13
vertago1*kernel15:14
zen933kHello Kubuntu Pros: I have Ubuntu Netbook installed on my netbook and want to use Plasma Netbook, is there a package name someone can provide me with that will set me up? Or do I have to go through the KDE website and compile it myself?15:36
zen933kEr, maybe I found it15:38
shadeslayerzen933k: kubuntu-netbook15:44
bardackhi16:12
bardacki have a problem: I have upgrade amarok from 2.2 to 2.3, but after reboot plasma crashes!16:13
bardackwhat must I do?16:13
goodtimei wish the oled versioin of amarok was still available16:16
goodtimeolder*16:16
goodtimei hate the new one16:16
goodtimeme i just run vlc16:17
bardackeh!16:18
BluesKajyeah, so do I altho I tried the newest amarok and it's much better now then previous versions16:18
bardackinfact...16:18
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bardackbut now how can I do to start plasma?16:18
bardackif I start it in konsole (plasma-desktop) it crashes however...16:19
ubuntuhi16:21
bardackI have followed this guide http://digitizor.com/2010/03/11/how-to-install-amarok-2-3-beta-1-altered-state-in-kubuntu-9-10/16:21
ubuntui can't enable the (extra visual effect) after installing the updates :)16:21
ubuntuANy option16:21
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TheGrammarFreakWould it be possible to do a google search from the alt-f2 thing?16:23
BluesKajTheGrammarFreak,  no, it's for your files not the web16:24
ubuntuHello16:24
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TheGrammarFreakDamn, will the functionality ever be added do you know? Or is there an addon to do it? I'm using the netbook version and it would be really cool16:26
bardackI have even remove .kde in my home...but restarting kmd plasma crashes always16:26
BluesKajTheGrammarFreak, for files in the repositories do sudp aptitude search nameofapp in the terminal16:27
TheGrammarFreakubuntu, you have the correct graphics drivers yeah?16:27
BluesKajsudo16:27
ubuntuIt was working until i installed that studpid ATI crystal center16:28
ubuntufrom software center16:28
ubuntuHUH16:28
ulyssesBluesKaj: You don't need sudo if you want to search for packages, just use "aptitude search" or "apt-cache search".16:28
BluesKajulysses, ok, then why didn'y you tell TheGrammarFreak , instead of correcting me ? :)16:29
TheGrammarFreakI got it, dw16:29
TheGrammarFreakI'm competent enough to know when to use sudo16:29
TheGrammarFreak:P16:30
TheGrammarFreakI can't find anything, oh well16:30
TheGrammarFreakIS there a feature request thing, either for KDE or kubuntu?16:30
TheGrammarFreakWhere I can ask for this?16:31
BluesKajok, TheGrammarFreak then do your aplications searches in your package manager the terminal or even google-linux on the net16:31
BluesKajbtw TheGrammarFreak , what exactly are you searching for16:33
TheGrammarFreakThe ability to google search from the alt-f2 dialogue16:33
TheGrammarFreakFor example, type "google hello world" into it and it starts firefox and does the search16:34
James147TheGrammarFreak: typeing in gg:test   works as well16:34
ulyssesWhat about this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/SearchMoid?content=9946016:34
ubuntuhow to download ATI's driver for ubuntu16:34
ubuntu?16:34
TheGrammarFreakAha! the gg thing, I'd never come across this16:35
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TheGrammarFreakThat's a step in the right direction, can it open firefox instead of konqueror?16:35
James147TheGrammarFreak: Mine opens chrome so i would think so16:36
TheGrammarFreakOk16:36
BluesKajalt f2 is a the run command box , it'd meant for launching apps and files not webapps16:36
TheGrammarFreakBluesKaj, indeed it is, but as Jmes147 has pointed out the gg command allows you to google, just as I had wanted16:37
TheGrammarFreakJames even16:37
James147BluesKaj: its more then just ment for running apps, its can do many other things like change power profile, open songs in amarok and many many more16:37
BluesKajok, weird  I just launch the browser16:37
BluesKajwhy not just use the app ? I don't get it ...anyway to each his own.16:38
James147click the "?" (on 4.4 not sure about 4.3) and you can see all the things it can do16:38
ubuntuATI grapics driver installer ? NAME ? please16:39
ubuntu:)16:39
TheGrammarFreakI often launch a browser to search something, that is two command almost, one to start firefox, on to google. I have reduced this to one command16:39
BluesKajTheGrammarFreak, are you KB purist ?16:40
TheGrammarFreakBluesKaj, KB?16:41
BluesKajkeyboard16:41
TheGrammarFreakGot it working if firefox, thanks for your help James14716:41
TheGrammarFreakIt's quicker than a mouse16:41
James147TheGrammarFreak: No problem16:42
TheGrammarFreakBy a long shiot16:42
James147TheGrammarFreak: Using "Web Shortcuts" you can define your own as well for searching other sites16:43
TheGrammarFreakI prefer to type commands than to navigating through a menu, but I like a GUI. So the alt-f2 dialogue is a good compromise16:43
BluesKajI still don't get it , you gotta use alt+F2 so where's the saving in strokes or clicks ?16:44
TheGrammarFreakI'll bet you anything I can get around my pc quicker than you can. After a while of doing it pressing alt-f2 is as natural as moving your mouse to the bottol right for the menu.16:45
daskreechbigbrovar: ping16:45
TheGrammarFreakSo it takes no longer16:45
TheGrammarFreakSo, if you have a maximised window, as I do now, you have to click the menu button, find firefox, wait for it to start, search (assuming a search engine is your homepage) and you'ree there.16:46
ubuntuHow to install the graphics driver for ATI it was working before :) any help16:47
TheGrammarFreakI hit alt-f2, type "gg: search terms" then enter16:47
TheGrammarFreakAnd I'm done16:47
TheGrammarFreakubuntu, how did you do it before?16:47
BluesKajso what , how much time do you really save...is this a pi**ing contest or something ...if I'm  missing some then please clue me in ? :)16:47
TheGrammarFreakI save a few seconds16:48
BluesKajwow16:48
James147BluesKaj: TheGrammarFreak: It dosen't really matter all that dose is if your happy using it the way you want to16:48
TheGrammarFreakIndeed, I'm sorry if I seem a bit defensive or harsh, it's been a tough day for me16:48
BluesKajI'd sooner help ppl with real problems :)16:49
TheGrammarFreakHelp ubuntu then16:49
TheGrammarFreakThey've been asking for help with their ATI thing for a while now16:49
BluesKajI let the ati users do that , I use nvidia16:50
TheGrammarFreakLol, same16:51
daskreechbigbrovar: requesting a redent on http://identi.ca/notice/24882832 :-) Thanks16:51
daskreech!nvidia16:51
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:51
TheGrammarFreakI have another problem then, my alt-tab switcher has stopped, any ideas?16:51
ApselHi All: i am new in Linux. i just installed kubuntu 9.10 on my computer. i also installed a software for viewing the TV. but i cannot scan for channels, i cannot watch the TV. may someone help me please?16:51
slow-motionhi16:51
TheGrammarFreakApsel, you have a TV tuner in your PC yeah?16:52
daskreech!hi | slow-motion16:52
ubottuslow-motion: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:52
ApselMy TV card is PC TV PCI/7130 PAL TVFM16:52
BluesKajApsel,  which software did you install on kubuntu for your tv card?16:53
TheGrammarFreakHmm, well I've never done TV on my PC, so I am of limited use. But drivers, or lack thereof, spring to mind16:53
ApselTheGrammarFreak: i tried Klear; TVtime and Kafeine16:54
eirannnickserv help16:56
TheGrammarFreakThat's just the front-end software though, isn't it? If it's not I'm sorry. Again, I can't help much, I can only point out the usual suspects for things not working in linux. Try a googlesearch for the linux drivers of that card16:56
BluesKajApsel, are you sure that's the actual name of your tv card?16:57
ApselTheGrammarFreak: how can i install the drivers?16:57
Apselyes this is what is labeled on the package: PC TV PCI/713016:58
TheGrammarFreakTry hitting the k menu icon, going to system the drivers16:58
TheGrammarFreakSee if anything pops up there16:58
BluesKajApsel, try, lspci | grep TV , in the terminal16:59
daskreechDVB should work on kaffiene17:00
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\AhmedHello17:00
Apsel BluesKaj: i tried it, no result17:00
\Ahmedhow to reinstall the graphic drivers and reinstall all at once :)17:01
daskreech\Ahmed: you mean reinstall Kubuntu and the driver in one go?17:01
BluesKajok Apsel do lspci , look for a pci card with someting like tv controller17:02
Apselbut this is what i get when i just run lspci : 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)17:02
Apsel00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)17:02
FloodBotK1Apsel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:02
SiVA_what is a better supported laptop video card for linux, ATI Radeon or GeForce GT240M17:03
daskreechRadeon is a brand not a video card17:03
ikoniaintel is very good support, nvidia is also a safer choice17:03
SiVA_I'm looking for a new laptop, and I figure the video card is 50% of the problem with most of my current crashing issues17:03
bardackHow can I do downgrading from kde 4.4 to 4.3?17:03
TheGrammarFreakBardack, why?17:04
SiVA_sorry, thats an ATI HD 467017:04
ikoniabardack: remove the 4.4 packages, install 4.317:04
ikoniaSiVA_: ATI support is still very poor17:04
\AhmedNo wel its not that i mean it was just my mistake :)17:04
ulyssesMy ATI X200M works very well on Karmic:)17:04
daskreechbardack: remove the kdelibs then remove the KDE 4.4 repos and install kubuntu-desktop. Hope you backed up your ~/.kde directory17:04
TheGrammarFreakSiVA: go nividia17:04
\AhmedNvidia is supporetd17:04
\Ahmed?17:05
SiVA_ok... so, for the laptop owners here, what laptop brand do you prefer ?17:05
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TheGrammarFreakAsus17:05
ikoniaSiVA_: that is offtopic for this channel17:05
ulyssesI used Acer, Lenovo, both are very good with Kubuntu17:05
TheGrammarFreakI'll meet you in the offtopic on SiVA17:05
BluesKajApsel, your tv card is apci card , right ?17:05
bardackone moment...my problem is: I have installed amarok 2.3 after launching this command -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports17:06
bardackbut now plasma crashes always17:06
daskreechbardack: did you check if it's one of your applets that haven't been upgraded?17:06
SiVA_I have an aweful time with my m1330 dell. daily crashes, lockups, etc... ok, sorry for off topic17:07
michal_siema17:07
bardackdaskreech: I don't know how I do it...my idea was upgrade amarok from 2.2 to 2.317:07
ApselBluesKaj:my TV card is PCI/713017:07
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ApselBluesKaj:i don't know if it is the same with apci17:08
TheGrammarFreakI'm off, fare thee well17:09
BluesKajApsel, sorry I meant pci , and PCI7130 is a totally new to me.17:09
Apselthis is what i get at the last line when i run lspci : Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)17:10
ApselBluesKaj: oh yes it is a PCI card17:10
BluesKajApsel, aha , you tracked down the chip , good ...that one should work with tvtime17:11
bardackIs there a manner to disable backports and return system to first state?17:11
bardackthe problem is only plasma because if in terminal I launch chorme or konsol or ALT+F2 all start and work...17:12
ApselBluesKaj: but it did not work. Maybe the driver is not installed. how can i know that?17:13
bardackbut after login I have black screen due to plasma crash17:13
koniupolacy?17:13
ApselBluesKaj: i tried dmesg and lspci17:14
BluesKajApsel, open your package manager and look search for Philips SAA713017:14
Apseli did it using "Adept" it cannot find it17:16
ApselBluesKaj: i search for Philips SAA7130, but no result17:18
BluesKajApsel, how did you try to make tvtime work the first time?17:20
ApselBluesKaj: it never worked17:20
ApselBluesKaj: only with xp17:20
BluesKajApsel, I mean in kubuntu17:21
ApselBluesKaj: i have tried Kaffeine, Tvtime and klear. None of them work17:21
BluesKajkaffiene is only a video player not a tv tuner driver17:21
ApselBluesKaj: none of these software work with my kubuntu17:22
BluesKajApsel, how did you try to make tvtime "work" ?17:22
daskreechbardack: and you pulled in all of KDE 4.4?17:23
daskreechbardack: what version of KDe 4.4 ?17:24
daskreechbardack: have you tried resetting Plasma?17:24
BluesKajwell, I have to go ..bbl17:25
ApselBluesKaj:i just installed it using the command "apt-get install tvtime"17:25
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Apselanyone who can help: but when i try to run tvtime it does not not load the application17:27
daskreechApsel: run it from the command line it will give you an aerror17:27
Apseldaskreech: this is what i get : Utilise tvtime 1.0.2.17:30
ApselLit la configuration depuis /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml17:30
ApselLit la configuration depuis /root/.tvtime/tvtime.xml17:30
Apselxvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.17:30
Apsel*** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card17:30
Apsel*** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then17:30
FloodBotK1Apsel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:30
daskreechApsel: You need a driver that supports an overlay17:30
geniiApsel: You had already other warnings not to spam the channel and to use the pastebin website. Please pay attention or you will be booted.17:31
Apseldaskreech: Thank you. how can i know what the appropriate driver is? and how can i install it?17:31
Apselgenii: i am sorry! i will take not17:32
Apselgenii:i will take note17:32
geniiApsel: Thank you.17:33
Apselgenii: You are welcome17:35
ApselPlease may someone help me to know how install a driver that supports an overlay? my tv card is PCI/713017:40
Apseli am not able to run TVtime or any other TV program on my computer. i am using kubuntu 9.1017:41
daskreechApsel: Video card17:52
daskreechnot TV card17:52
bardackdaskreech: how can I do to resetting plasma?17:53
daskreechbardack: mkdir ~/plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* ~/plasmabkup17:54
Apseldaskreech: Please, how can i know what video card is installed ? how can i install the appropriate driver?17:54
daskreechApsel: lshw -C video17:55
Apseldaskreech: Thank you. This is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com17:57
bardackdaskreech: kde is 4.4.117:57
* genii hands Apsel a delicious cookie for using the pastebin17:58
Apselgenii: thank you :)17:58
daskreechApsel: A real link would have been more helpful but thanks for remembering to use pastebin :)17:59
geniidaskreech: Ah, I see now they didn't give the specific page within pastebin18:01
daskreechgenii: Yep but you can give juice with cookies when Apsel does so it's a good strategy18:02
Apseldaskreech & genii: sorry! this is my first time on the forum!18:03
daskreechApsel: Welcome then!18:03
Apseldaskreech: thank you18:04
geniiApsel: No worries, everyone was at one time a new user. When you put something to the pastebin website, make sure to give us the specific page which it is on, is all18:04
Apselgenii: like this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/397375/18:05
geniiApsel: Yes, exactly :)18:05
* genii breaks out the juice!18:05
Apselgenii: Thanks :)18:05
Apselgenii & daskreech: do you have any idea of how i can install the appropriate driver that will allow me watch the tv on my kubuntu please?18:07
daskreech>_<18:09
daskreechI'll check but I think that driver for that intel chipset was behaving very badly in 9.1018:09
olskolircim on Intrepid and I want to download just kpackagekit where do I get it please?18:12
daskreech!info kpackagekit intrepid18:16
ubottuPackage kpackagekit does not exist in intrepid18:16
daskreechoh18:16
olskolirci got it18:17
olskolircfile extension is 7z now I have to find out how to install it18:18
Apseldaskreech: i don't know if this can help. this is what i get about my tv driver. please is there any problem with the driver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/397390/18:18
daskreecholskolirc: That's a 7zip file you can install 7zip or just the unzip utilty if you like18:19
olskolircthanks18:19
daskreechApsel: That's your Sound card18:20
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Apseldaskreech: sorry this the good link http://paste.ubuntu.com/397391/18:22
daskreechApsel: Actually you know where you could hang out a little? #myth-tv18:23
daskreechor #mythbuntu18:23
daskreech#myth-tv has huuuuge experience with TV cards18:24
Apseldaskreech: thanks i will try18:24
geniiApsel: I'm pretty sure your card uses the saa1734 driver. You may need to specify additionally in modprobe.d the exact card type with something like:   saa1734 card=42   (as an example)18:24
daskreechgenii: I think it's card=7518:24
Apselgenii: Thank you. how can i do it from the Konsole?18:25
daskreechgenii: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1189681 to see if that is any help18:27
geniidaskreech: I have an USB tv adapter which uses this saa1730, the card number in it's case was 42 which is why I used it in the example18:30
daskreechgenii: Ah Ok :)18:31
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mateusz_hi18:49
mateusz_są tu jacyś polacy???18:49
Mamarok!pl | mateusz_18:50
ubottumateusz_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.18:50
meerohi, is there already tool to check fragmentation on EXT4?19:05
genii!defrag19:05
ubottuThe default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this.19:05
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humanGentlemen, I need help how can I install an English version of the program from *.deb file using dpkg?19:50
humanI have downloaded blobwars-1.17 from sourcefourrge and it has problem with russian language, utf-8 two-bytes symbols are shown as two ISO symbols19:51
humanhelp me to make english installation, please!19:51
geniihuman: When a program is packaged with multiple languages, it usually will try to determine from the language installed on the system which language to install itself. As far as i know there is no dpkg option to extract only a particular language19:52
humanI have not found this option too19:52
geniihuman: You can temporarily set the system language to something else, install, then switch the language back19:52
humangenii, that's good idea?19:53
humangenii, do you know how to do it not harmfully for my system?19:53
geniihuman: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables19:55
humangenii, thanks19:55
shaullx1i dont see any wireless networks to connect to19:55
shaullx1while in gnome i dont have that problem19:56
shaullx1someone?19:57
geniishaullx1: The KDE network manager is notoriously bad. Perhaps consider using wicd instead19:59
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Guest31134#italiancubeclan19:59
geniiGuest31134: Perhaps you need a:  /join                before that channel name20:00
deokanonhello everyone, it's a good day outside... i have a problem, i have upgraded my linux image but it doesn't show up in grub menu... i had to manually modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg... is there a way to configure the system to do it automatically?20:01
deokanonfor the next update that is20:01
geniishaullx1: Please do not private message me. wicd is in the repositories, just use Software Centre or KPackagekit or whatever you prefer to install it20:01
shaullx1i cant im offline in kde20:02
shaullx1i wanna use my onkey to transfer it20:02
genii!offline20:03
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD20:03
deokanonis it a sign there's a problem when linux doesn't automatically configure itself to load the linux image in grub menu? do i always have to change the lines in grub.cfg on every update?20:05
humangenii20:06
humangenii, I have installed it with changed LANG variable, but it still shows russian characters incorrectly, but it shows english characters correctly if I change LANG to us_US.UTF-820:07
human_how to make aplication to be launched as english without changing the LANG globally?20:09
daskreechdeokanon: you have some problems with the install of the kernel it looks like20:11
daskreechdeokanon: Or you told dpkg to not update grub20:11
daskreechdeokanon: It should run sudo update-grub post install of the kernel. You can do that yourself if you like20:12
deokanondaskreech: thanks... it's strange though menu.ls upgraged itself and after i edited a couple of lines in grub.cfg, the new kernel shows up and it boots quite nicely....:(20:13
geniihuman_: Hm. I'm not certain if this can be done. It is outside the scope of my knowledge.20:13
daskreechhuman_: if it has a language setting in it's config you can probably change it there20:14
geniihuman_: Is your normal Russian LANG an UTF-8 variant?20:14
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deokanondaskreech: i'm going to look into that dpkg thing you suggested20:15
human_genii, yes, but blobwars-1.17 I have downloaded from their site is not working correctly. And the repository version has no sound.20:15
deokanondaskreech: any advice where i can start?20:16
geniihuman_: I would suggest to report this as a bug to the developers of blobwars20:16
deokanondaskreech:noob here20:16
human_genii, you are going to do it by yourself?20:17
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geniihuman_: No, i suggest yopu file your own bug report, at: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=294610&atid=124429720:20
djusticegenii: woot20:20
geniihuman_: Category to report the bug in would be "translation"20:21
human_genii, thank you, I have also described my problem at the parallelreality site.20:21
daskreechdeokanon: it's the normal update process. If you changed the grub menu by hand it will ask if it should update it or leave it alone. You probably said leave it alone20:22
daskreech!find blobwars20:22
ubottuFound: blobwars, blobwars-data20:22
daskreechHmm no blobwars-music20:23
human_genii, it is pretty ty be an Englishman or an American((( No translation problem))20:23
geniidaskreech: The latest version with Ubuntu is 1.14, he is trying 1.1720:23
human_ubottu, this package from repository is going without music20:23
CartoonCathello20:24
st4aluckhi20:24
CartoonCatanyone ever got gphoto2 to work in ptp mode, or gphotofs ? the camera is seen on the usb port but nothing else happens when it is plugged in20:24
daskreechgenii: Still no music package. That might need looking into20:24
daskreechDepends on if you have libptp20:25
CartoonCatdaskreech: one would assume that is a depends for when you install gphoto2 now wouldnt you?20:25
CartoonCatsine thats WHAT gphoto2 does....20:25
human_ubottu, this is the latest version http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/download/blobwars/blobwars-1.17-1.i386.deb20:25
geniihuman_: ubottu is only a tool we use here, not a person :)20:26
human_ubottu, but it is not correctly working with UTF-820:26
human_:)20:26
Apselplease can someone help me ? i installed mythtv but i cannot have the TV. the program says "mythtv has no capture card defined"20:27
deokanongenii: who is "he" trying 1.17?20:27
human_Apsel, I use vlc))20:28
CartoonCatdaskreech: aptitude finds nothing called libptp, does it have another name20:28
Apselwhen i run "scantv" i got this message "device has no tuner"20:28
human_deokanon I am trying blobwars 1.1720:28
CartoonCatApsel: what tuner device do you have20:28
deokanonah20:29
ApselCartoonCat: Philips Semiconductors SAA713020:30
deokanonhuman: interesting game20:30
deokanonthanks everyone20:31
CartoonCatApsel: you need the V4L drivers, and the wiis are in the process of being merged20:33
human_genii20:36
geniihuman_: ?20:36
ApselCartoonCat: how can i get and install the v4l drivers please?20:37
daskreechCartoonCat: It's been rolled into libgphoto2 it seems20:37
human_Gentlemen, I have found the solution. It is to type " LANG=en_EN.UTF-8 blobwars" in terminal. After blobwars closing the LANG variable is switching back to previous))))20:38
human_But Blobwars 1.17 still has a UTF-8 bug((20:38
geniihuman_: Since it is not a version which is yet in Ubuntu repositories, any bugs it may have are not the problem of Ubuntu support20:38
genii( yet )20:38
CartoonCatdaskreech: yea, and the gui part is gtkam (installing that)20:38
CartoonCatApsel: google, V4L in kubuntu is a PITA, i duno tried to help a friend do it and i wont be trying that again20:39
human_genii, I have understood it, but the version in the repo is soundless and it is not cool to play blobwars without sound))20:40
human_genii, thank you20:40
CartoonCathuman_what version are you seeing ?20:40
human_Gentlemen, good bye, I am to sleep))20:40
ApselCartoonCat:ok. thanks20:40
geniihuman_: The repository version you can report a bug against in this matter.20:40
human_CartoonCat, 1.1720:41
CartoonCatApsel: sorry, some things i just can not do over irc, in person, maybe, still dislike V4L + Kubuntu =\20:41
CartoonCathuman_: im seeing 1.1120:41
daskreechV4L is in a pretty sad state but better than most other efforts outside of vlc20:48
CartoonCatdaskreech: thats likely a fair assumption. the main issue <I> have is that kubuntu doesnt support /proc/config.gz and that is a very important thing to have when the config used is not available20:49
daskreechCartoonCat: bug it?20:50
gkffjcshey all, where does kdm store it's xauth file?20:52
gkffjcsOr the other thing, how do I disable access control on my xserver?20:55
daskreechman xhost20:56
gkffjcswill using xhost also set my server to listen for external connections, I don't want that, I just want acces control to be off, for any connection from localhost20:58
daskreechRead xhost :)21:01
daskreechyou can do that21:01
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sertachi i want to create an application that can listen a specific event on the os21:10
sertacfor this purpose dbus seems to be appropriate to me21:10
sertacam i right?21:11
daskreechsertac: Not certain what you are asking. You want to know if the application should listen on dbus?21:13
sertacactually i want to listen for any text selection with some keyboard shortcut21:14
sertacfor example, let key combination be ctrl-shift, when i select a text in any application with pressing ctrl+shift my app should be noticed21:14
daskreechOh then yes Dbus would be useful21:15
sertacbut i cannot find any useful docs fo how to do that21:16
sertaccan you suggest any21:17
eirannanyone know a chanell something like flare flare21:17
daskreechsertac: what are you programming the application in?21:20
sertacc++21:20
sertacqt21:20
daskreechsertac: #qt  can answer all your questions then21:21
egemHi good day21:51
daskreechegem: Hi22:14
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yj_hello, everyone , i just install KDE4 on my ubuntu 9.10 . It is soooooo cool !23:24
Typos_Kinghehe23:27
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tarzanIlsken tarzan här,23:40
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tarzanGGår verkligen allat ut ut ut ut ut  på Dahöögren. Va fan, hon är ju inte väldens smartaste.23:43
tarzanOps, så illa jag stavade.23:44
Typos_King...23:47
Typos_King!se | tarzan23:47
ubottutarzan: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se23:47
tarzanHm, jag fick reklman  nu....23:50

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