=== Flare183_ is now known as Flare183 [03:27] PabloRubianes, hi there :) [03:29] hello latenite [03:29] Sorry for the mistake... It's 12:28 Am here sleepiness problems :P [03:29] tell me your problem let see if I can give you a hand [03:30] yes latenite I am here [03:30] PabloRubianes, thank u already :) [03:30] well log story: [03:30] *long [03:31] I have a fileserver and laptop. I mount dirs from the fileserver via sshfs to my latop [03:31] I have 3 users and 3 groups on the fileserver [03:32] users: kai, mo, trusteduser [03:32] grp: kai, mom, trustesuser [03:32] typo!! users: kai, mom, trusteduser [03:34] good and the problem is? [03:34] well kai is in the group "trusteduser", mom is not. : [03:34] [11:45:16] [root@fileserver:/home/kai] # grep kai /etc/group [03:34] trusteduser:x:1000:kai [03:34] kai:x:1002: [03:34] [11:45:30] [root@fileserver:/home/kai] # [03:34] [11:45:34] [root@fileserver:/home/kai] # grep mom /etc/group [03:34] mom:x:1001: [03:34] [11:45:47] [root@fileserver:/home/kai] # [03:35] problem is: kai can la -la the dirs he owns [03:35] but mom can not list hers [03:36] all dirs are "group - trusteduser" and are owned my either mom or kai [03:37] let me see [03:38] see this [03:38] http://pastebin.com/4KmNyKw8 [03:38] mom owns "data_mom" but may not list it. [03:38] just like kai owns "data_kai" but he can list ist [03:39] only difference is: kai is n group trusteduser [03:41] Keine Berechtigung is german an means "permission denied" [03:42] PabloRubianes, are u still with me??? [03:42] yes I am thinking [03:42] ohh ok [03:42] latenite: I am here [03:43] wow [03:43] fine..take ur time.....just wanted to know [03:43] ;-) [03:43] duanedesign: why wow? [03:44] trying to understand [03:44] see the pastebin....it tells the whole story [03:44] mom owns a dir...but cant list it [03:45] issue is simple. but I am lacking a reason why this is so [03:46] do I need to mention that I ssh into the fileserver to do all this?! does that make a difference? [03:47] duanedesign, get it? [03:48] latenite: yes [03:48] She doesn't have access to /mnt/data, so she won't have access to anything under it either [03:49] chmod 775 /mnt/data should fix it [03:49] does kai have access to it? [03:50] Yes, sinces the trusteduser group has access [03:50] geirha, ok let me think about that for a minute. [03:52] drwxrwx--- 9 trusteduser trusteduser that's the permissions on /mnt/data. So first it checks, are you user trusteduser? no, ok, are you in the group trusteduser? no, ok, the you are other, which has no permissions. Too bad. [03:54] this way (775) ANYONE could list the content of /mnt/data [03:54] right? [03:55] Yes, but not create or delete files. [03:55] what I want is: that only users mom and kai may list THEIR-OWN dirs. [03:55] but I dont want ANYONE to be able to list what is in /mnt/data [03:55] Then make /mnt/data only accessible by root [03:56] not even kai nor mom [03:56] And mount the dirs it ocntains to the users' homefolders [03:56] kai shall only list /mnt/data/data_kai [03:56] sudo mount --bind /mnt/data/data_kai /home/kai/data [03:57] "Then make /mnt/data only accessible by root"....how? [03:57] chown root:root /mnt/data? [03:57] like this? [03:58] there is no /home/kai nor /home/mom [03:59] I only have the users..but no home dirs to it [03:59] Oh, I see [03:59] Well, you can't have it selectively list files in a directory. It's either all or none [03:59] you said: Then make /mnt/data only accessible by root [03:59] that is what my "trusteduser" was for [03:59] so root is not needed... [03:59] Yes, that's because I assumed you had homedirs you could simply mount the respective directories in [04:00] get my idea?! [04:00] Hi, my system always had issues while running Ubuntu from CD. Then I found out after giving boot parameters acpi=off and nodma, it worked perfectly. Now,I am having issues after installing ubuntu to hard drive,some 2-3 minutes after booting the screen shows weired zigzag colors. Hope someone can help. [04:00] Now, what's the harm in anyone listing that dir? [04:01] They'll see data_mom and data_kai, so what, they can't see what's inside them. [04:01] user could see who else has data_USERNAME on my server [04:01] syygame unwanted [04:01] *spygame [04:02] e.g. I dont want mom to see that there is a dir called "data_myexgirlfriend" [04:02] The use more levels I guess [04:03] more levels?...sorry I dont get that [04:03] Or create homedirs and mount only the dirs they should have access to in there [04:03] /mnt/data/trustedusers/data_kai /mnt/data/notsotrusted/data_mom etc [04:05] this way users in /mnt/data/notsotrusted/ could AGAIN see who else has dirs in there [04:05] that does not make any difference? does it?! [04:05] Then I misunderstood I guess. [04:06] nono I feel like u realy got it [04:06] Though all users are listed in /etc/passwd, which is world readable ... so all usernames are known to all users no matter what. [04:06] but the levels thing..only helps if you ONLY have ONE user in that level [04:07] which would be pretty bad if I get 100 users...I have to add 100 new groups [04:07] Hello [04:07] any one there for a help? [04:08] If you omit the read bit, you'll have access to it (i.e. you can cd into it), but you cannot list its content. [04:09] sure! but users in passwd are not my issue . my issue ist the name of the dirs that can be listed. e.g. data_exgirlfriend OR data_tortureporn [04:09] get it :) [04:09] Ok, then use the homedir approach. [04:10] Each user gets the directories they have access to mounted in their homedir. [04:10] further problem: the /mnt/data/movies dir the server holds. [04:11] geirha, actualy a good idea. I will do that for now [04:13] but this way "trusteduser" which is a "data-manager" who should be allowed to rwx all data of all users but root ould not be albe to his job [04:13] right? [04:13] *able [04:13] catchjaga, what s ur question? [04:14] Hi, my system always had issues while running Ubuntu from CD. Then I found out after giving boot parameters acpi=off and nodma, it worked perfectly. Now,I am having issues after installing ubuntu to hard drive,some 2-3 minutes after booting the screen shows weired zigzag colors. Hope someone can help. [04:15] latenite: Huh? root as full access [04:16] wrong gramma on the sentence. sorry. I ment user - trusteduser can not access /home/USERNAME this way [04:18] catchjaga, what s ur xorg.conf? pastebin [04:18] That depends on the permissions you set on /home/USERNAME of course, but setting it 700 and owned by the user, then only the user himself and root has access. [04:19] oh and if I set it 0740 and make it group trusteduser [04:19] sorry for my ignrance,how do I check that? [04:19] than trusteduser should be albe to read it [04:20] canthus13, wgetpaste | /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:21] latenite: Eh? [04:21] just copy paste that as root. so we can see ur xorg.conf [04:21] latenite: Read, yes, but not enter it [04:22] so no recurive looki looki? [04:22] *recursive [04:22] k.. brb [04:23] latenite: Indeed. Easy to test you know. [04:24] *g sure :) [04:25] mkdir -p /tmp/dir/data_foo/secret; chmod 740 /tmp/dir; sudo chown root /tmp/dir; ls /tmp/dir /tmp/dir/data_foo [04:25] that is not what I want. I need trusteduser (admin) to handle all files of all users..but trusteduser may not be root [04:26] Just let trusteduser have access to /mnt/data then [04:27] that works perfectly [04:27] thank you. [04:31] catchjaga, ??? === DiegoTc is now known as Turcios === Turcios is now known as DiegoTc === hobgoblin is now known as Guest9167 === Guest9167 is now known as hobgoblin [07:44] Hi [07:46] I have an issue after installing ubuntu 9.10 on my pc. After booting up the screen just shows weird colors. Also while installing from live cd, I used acpi=off and nodma boot parameter to load properly, else I had the same issue. [07:47] anyone ther for help? [07:52] any one ther to help? [07:59] catchjaga yes [08:00] I have an issue after installing ubuntu 9.10 on my pc. After booting up the screen just shows weird colors. Also while installing from live cd, I used acpi=off and nodma boot parameter to load properly, else I had the same issue. [08:05] catchjaga you did an upgrade or a clean install? [08:05] leoquant: u ther? [08:05] I did a clean install [08:06] catchjaga if your live cd errors, it probably means your hardware errors [08:06] so your hardware is having trouble with ubuntu 9.10 [08:07] I used the same cd for installing in my laptop, which worked perfectly [08:07] so you had no problems while installing? [08:07] looks like it.. but I was able to run from live cd with boot parameters acpi=off and nodma [08:08] no.. I didnt had any problems while installing.. [08:09] I tried adding boot parameters by editing from grub menu.. [08:09] this is very ambiguous....is it X, or hardware related.... [08:09] catchjaga you did well doing these things [08:10] bbut looks like nodma is not available from grub boot menu [08:10] moment is ask for some help ok? [08:12] ? [08:12] catchjaga i asked for help, please wait a moment [08:12] ok [08:13] catchjaga you did not get an option safe graphics mode? [08:14] I just get option for recovery mode.. and for memtest [08:15] you did the memtest catchjaga ? [08:15] no [08:16] wouldn 't it be wise to do so? [08:16] if possible... [08:18] leoquant: I will try that now [08:18] ok [09:08] leoquant: Im logging off now.. memtest is not yet cmplete.. [09:10] Hello. [09:13] Heya Silver_Fox_ :) [09:14] Hello === hobgoblin is now known as hobgoblin|afk === ibuclaw is now known as melDJ === melDJ is now known as ibuclaw [11:52] What up y'all..... === hobgoblin|afk is now known as hobgoblin [17:16] can anyone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/uq6bg4J2 [17:16] im currently using a vps and command line [17:17] i recently upgraded to karmic from jaunty :/ [17:19] Hello switchgirl =] [17:20] can anyone help? [17:20] hoi [17:21] Hello User45 [17:22] hi [17:22] User45, pastebin the output of "sudo mountall --debug" [17:23] How are you switchgirl ? [17:25] trying to mount from a server called NAS, I can browse to it using nautilus like smb://nas/ but $ sudo mount smb:/nas/backup /mnt/backup failes DNS resolution failed for smb: no address assiciated with hostname [17:26] http://pastebin.com/dTVR9h7k [17:28] This looks like bug 447747: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/447747 [17:30] the thing is, i dont have grub [17:45] hi [17:46] hi [17:47] Im having issue with ubuntu after installing to hard drive. After booting up I am able to access desktop normally. After some 2 minutes the screen crashes and shows weird colors. Even while installing I used acpi=off and nodma boot parameters. [17:54] any help? [18:07] celthunder: can you help? [18:07] not really.. [18:07] sorry [18:09] celthunder: thanks [18:44] hey swoody [18:45] hello hobgoblin :) [18:45] Hey there swoody ! [18:46] heya lukjad86 :) === JoeWheele is now known as JoeWheeler [21:31] Hi guys, how do i join the ubuntu beginners team? [21:32] hello JoeWheeler [21:33] Hi [21:33] I signed up on the wiki and put my name on the list, is that all i have to do? [21:34] JoeWheeler No, there is more [21:34] JoeWheeler, yes, you have to go through a mentoring process [21:34] JoeWheeler You need to pass a membership test and take a period of training first [21:34] and do various things as set up a wiki page, launchpad account, sign the code of conduct, join the mailing list et cetera [21:35] and there's a voting to see if you get in [21:35] people usually do though [21:35] it's not strict [21:35] And the process may change in the future [21:35] * pedro3005 sighs [21:35] OK, I've done all that so now I guess i just wait for a mentor? Will i be emailed when assigned one? [21:36] JoeWheeler, you will probably be contacted by him/her self [21:36] JoeWheeler, also, hang around in the channels so people get to know you [21:37] Ok, also I want to join the beginners dev team, do I need to be in the main beginners team first? [21:39] JoeWheeler, they have their own selection process, but I think so [21:39] JoeWheeler, what languages do you know? [21:43] am OK at Java(in a 4 year course using it at uni at the moment) and VB(used it for my A-levels) learning python and C++ [21:44] JoeWheeler, cool. i'm learning python too [21:46] Yeh, I've only just started, I did programming challenge 10 in it, it seems like quite a nice language [21:46] JoeWheeler, it's also my first language [21:47] it's tough [21:47] Pedro, cool! are you planning to learn any others? [21:48] adds JoeWheeler to buddy list <-- just about to start learning Java [21:48] JoeWheeler, yes, in fact [21:48] Pedro2005, cool what? [21:48] Pedro3005 I mean [21:49] crappy internet === pedro_ is now known as pedro3005 [21:49] JoeWheeler, I have a friend in college and he promised to introduce me to programming micro-controllers with C. should be fun [21:51] pedro3005, wow that sounds really cool! I'm hoping to do a robotics course next year I'm really interested to learn how to actually interact with the hardware [21:52] JoeWheeler, yes, yes. though, as it seems to me now, i'll most likely do CS in college... or physics, perhaps [21:55] pedro3005, I enjoyed my CS college course, it's a useful thing to have a qualification in, I looked at the stats for my uni and apparently 95% of CS grads manage to find a job in the first year after graduating [21:55] JoeWheeler, that is cool [21:56] pedro3005, how far have you got with your python programming then? [21:57] JoeWheeler, not too far. about up to classes, sockets.. i've made a simple irc bot [21:59] pedro3005, sounds cool are you using a tutorial or something? [21:59] JoeWheeler: pedro3005 has made a filthy mouthed irc bot - lol [21:59] JoeWheeler, I generally check out the python docs tutorial, but I'm not really following anything strictly [21:59] phillw, ! lies! [22:00] JoeWheeler: ask pedro3005to invite you to see his ircbot at work :-D [22:00] phillw, and remember I re-coded the entire thing? [22:01] pedro3005: ah, yes, but the topic title still remains - lol [22:01] so most stuff that it used to have aren't present in this new version. can't see what you mean by filthy mouthed though [22:01] phillw, oooh [22:01] the !piss command [22:01] that [22:02] phillw, that's from way back when it still was an eggdrop [22:03] phillw, hehe sounds like fun! [22:03] phillw, the foul mouthed chat-bot that is [22:03] it's not my irc channel to invite you into, pedro3005 may be able to [22:04] it isn't restricted [22:04] anyone can join ##devil .. it's not mine either [22:04] I know, it's mohi1's [22:04] JoeWheeler, just be careful around there. we're not exactly family-friendly [22:05] pedro3005: I think the topic when you log on, sorta gives that away ;-) [22:06] pedro3005, I'll check it out! [22:06] JoeWheeler, let me bring the bot in [22:07] pedro3005, cool sure! === iainbuclaw is now known as ibuclaw [23:03] hello [23:04] hey C-Ray [23:05] how are u? please i would like to ask u about an issue am facing sometimes. My icons on my desktop are just disappearing without a reason. [23:05] am running 9.10 [23:05] why do u think this is happenning sometimes [23:05] C-Ray, which icons? [23:06] the shortcut or the icons of the desktop - Ubuntu's desktop === Flare183_ is now known as Flare183 [23:06] files i mean [23:07] there are there but the desktop will be locked somehow, it will appear empty but still the files are there in the desktop folder [23:07] *the desktop files i mean ( not there are there) [23:07] C-Ray, weird [23:07] never saw that happening [23:08] they told me at work it may be from my graphic card [23:08] i don't know [23:08] the files are there but just sometimes i can't access them from the desktop [23:08] unless if i reboot [23:08] some issues with hardware i think [23:08] but not sure [23:09] probably not [23:09] it is didn't happen to me under 9.04 [23:09] nor under Fedora [23:09] or debian [23:09] it bothered me sometimes [23:09] under centos also, i didn't face anything like that [23:09] C-Ray, can't see why though [23:10] no error message? [23:10] nothing [23:10] just all of sudden they disappear [23:10] i can still access them through the terminal and the main folder [23:10] but not through the desktop [23:11] and even the right click of the mouse will be disabled when that happens [23:11] :( [23:11] C-Ray, something wrong with gnome [23:11] C-Ray I have an idea [23:11] tell me please [23:12] :) [23:12] C-Ray There are two ideas. One, is the file called something that begins with a dot, like .funtimes.txt? [23:12] ok [23:12] and? [23:12] C-Ray there is a setting in GNOME that allows your desktop not to show the files. I can look that up and we can see what we can do [23:13] thanks for that [23:13] :) [23:15] C-Ray would you like me to walk you through it, or would a link to an article be all you need? [23:15] link is fine man [23:15] thanks [23:15] http://gaarai.com/2009/01/06/hide-desktop-icons-in-ubuntu/ [23:15] thanks [23:16] C-Ray The directions are there, check to see if the volumes_visible is checked off [23:16] If it's not, that's your problem :) [23:19] lukjad86: best way to disable desktop icons - Install fluxbox or openbox =) [23:19] bodhi_zazen He wants to reenable them though [23:20] bodhi_zazen But yeah [23:20] :) [23:20] actually everything looks up-right there, [23:20] my problem is different [23:20] they are always visible but just sometimes they disappear [23:20] Hm... [23:20] not the system ones [23:20] but everything [23:21] the desktop will be locked [23:21] then after a reboot or something [23:21] they will appear again as if nothing has happened [23:21] the files as i had mentioned are always there [23:21] and i can still check them from the terminal and the main folder through my home directory [23:22] in both conditions [23:22] no idea :( [23:22] http://gaarai.com/2009/01/06/hide-desktop-icons-in-ubuntu/ [23:22] i went through this [23:22] all of it [23:22] i know those stuff [23:23] it is something related with the compatibility of the hardware with ubuntu 9.10 [23:23] that's what they told me [23:23] at work [23:23] but not sure [23:23] since the one who told me is not an expert [23:23] just a technician like me [23:23] so a mate more or less [23:24] anyway [23:24] good to ask [23:24] hehe === duanedes1gn is now known as duanedesign [23:25] please if i want to post a problem in my webcam where shall i post it? [23:26] i forgot the link for that [23:26] ubuntu forums? [23:26] or some other place? [23:26] i tried to ask about that problem here but no use [23:26] they just adviced me to post it somewhere [23:27] but am not able to remember where they told me [23:27] i think ubuntu forums. though there are other forums that deals with those specific issues [23:27] no idea [23:27] any suggestions? [23:27] please [23:28] C-Ray, tried searching for people with similar issues? [23:28] ? what do you mean? [23:29] C-Ray, googling [23:29] yeah man, I am not a newbie here [23:29] C-Ray, nothing? [23:29] nothing [23:29] i have a chinese webcam [23:29] what did you search for? [23:29] ohh [23:29] which has no number or anything [23:29] it's the webcam [23:29] it was working under 9.04 [23:29] i thought it was the desktop thing [23:30] no man [23:30] i changed the topic [23:30] since that one was a waste of time [23:30] ah [23:31] I am as a technician for unix systems, am here because i don't like the attitudes of other moderators in other channels [23:31] i like to ask here as a beginner [23:31] :) [23:32] since i am in a way [23:32] so the problem with my webcam, i post it here last time but no one managed to help me [23:32] the only thing i received is where to post my problem [23:33] so yea [23:34] ... ok no probs, thanks anyway... Good bye for now