[00:27]  * gnomefreak never gonna get email done at this rate
[00:29] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: mail? whats that?
[00:29] <gnomefreak> :)
[00:58] <gnomefreak> its not asking me what to do even though setting == ask me
[01:27] <gnomefreak76> !buttons
[01:27] <gnomefreak76> oh damn
[01:27] <gnomefreak76> !control
[03:42] <cjohnston> Can anyone help me figure out why sometimes my filters will run and sometimes they wont?
[03:42] <cjohnston> in thunderbird3
[07:00] <LLStarks> asac, i'm finding that firefox 3.7 won't allow deluge torrent to start files after they're downloaded despite loading the client. i'm not seeing this in 3.6.
[08:50] <BUGabundo_remote> morning o/
[08:59] <asac> ho
[09:00] <asac> fta: we need to work on getting a testing community ramped up
[09:01] <asac> to get new major versions up, it requires thorough exposure
[09:01] <asac> e.g. we cannot just through a new beta/stable out without that
[09:01] <asac> but yes, we want to do major version updates for chromium the same way we want to do that for firefox
[09:03]  * BUGabundo_remote is test ready
[09:04] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: you mean starting lucid, FF will keep up with major upstream releases ?
[09:08] <asac> we will go for new major upstreams when old ff becomes EOL
[09:09] <BUGabundo_remote> ahh makes sense
[11:16] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: I haven't been able to open FF 3.7 in weeks
[11:16] <BUGabundo_remote> it always complains its already running
[11:16] <BUGabundo_remote> even in safe-mode
[11:18] <asac> check with chrisccoulson
[11:18] <asac> chrisccoulson: what happened to the ppa upload ;)
[11:18] <asac> guess you didnt figure how to upload with -security?
[11:18] <asac> one sec
[11:18] <chrisccoulson> hey asac - yeah, i couldn't figure that out
[11:18] <chrisccoulson> so mdeslaur uploaded directly to the security ppa for me
[11:18] <asac> chrisccoulson: you have to force the pocket like:
[11:18] <asac> [ppa-ums-lucid]
[11:18] <asac> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net
[11:18] <asac> incoming = ~ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/lucid/
[11:18] <asac> login = anonymous
[11:19] <chrisccoulson> asac - thanks :)
[11:19] <chrisccoulson> i would probably never have figured that one out ;)
[11:19] <asac> heh
[11:19] <asac> did mdeslaur figure ;?
[11:19] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: when will we get a drop of FF 4?
[11:19] <chrisccoulson> i assume so
[11:20] <asac> BUGabundo_remote: not sure. is trunk already moving towards 4.0?
[11:20] <asac> chrisccoulson: ok its up https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+packages
[11:20] <asac> so we should blog about it ;)
[11:20] <asac> though we want to release today i guess
[11:20] <asac> but still
[11:21] <asac> let me microblog for now ;)
[11:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think mdeslaur was fairly keen to do the release today after some testing
[11:21] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: beats me... ask [reed] :p
[11:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: yes, we dont do releasese on friday
[11:23] <asac> so either today or monday ...
[11:23] <asac> chrisccoulson: install vms and test ;)
[11:23] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that makes sense
[11:23] <chrisccoulson> releases on friday are sometimes problematic ;)
[11:48] <chrisccoulson> asac - did you understand what was causing bug 456468? shouldn't the fix for bug 518760 have solved that, or is there more than 1 issue?
[11:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: thats understood
[11:52] <asac> didnt mvo add a patch?
[11:52] <asac> just create a link to some icon with the missing name in the package
[11:55] <chrisccoulson> asac - the current version in the archive has a change by mvo to ship the old icon
[11:55] <chrisccoulson> but seb128 still says he sees the issue
[11:55] <asac> yeah. then its not all icons
[11:55] <asac> we probably miss another one
[11:56] <asac> chrisccoulson: seb does upgrade tests?
[11:56] <chrisccoulson> i think so
[13:36] <dupondje> I have set that when I mark a mail as spam, it should move to spam folder, but it doesn't move it? Any idea what could be wrong / how I can debug it ?
[14:48] <micahg> asac: have you returned?
[15:02] <asac> micahg: on calls for a few more hours
[15:02] <asac> then yes.
[15:03] <micahg> asac: yay \o/
[15:58] <Hilikus> hey guys
[15:58] <Hilikus> i read this in a bug report, what is it supposed to mean?
[15:58] <Hilikus> "since Mozilla moved to non-versioning"
[15:59] <Hilikus> Can someone please decline the nominations since this is not required since Mozilla moved to non-versioning
[16:07] <micahg> Hilikus: firefox source package will be unversioned now
[16:08] <Hilikus> what does that mean??
[16:08] <Hilikus> as an end-user
[16:08] <micahg> Hilikus: nothing for you
[16:09] <Hilikus> all updates will be immediatly available?
[16:09] <micahg> Hilikus: well, we want to try to provide continual updates, even major versions when they happen..
[16:09] <Hilikus> so that still means that for major version changes i still have to wait for the next ubuntu release?
[16:10] <micahg> Hilikus: well, we plan on moving hardy/jaunty to firefox 3.6 soon
[16:13] <fta>   Candidate: 3.7~a3~hg20100304r38917+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[16:13] <fta> micahg, ^^ no update??
[16:14] <micahg> fta: patch failed
[16:14] <micahg> will fix tonight
[16:14] <micahg> fta: oh wait...no, problem is dep wait
[16:14] <micahg> fta: xul193 broke with gcc 4.4
[16:14] <fta> in 2 weeks?
[16:15] <micahg> mozilla 550823
[16:17] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you have time to look at this ^^
[16:17] <fta> kenvandine, chrisccoulson: does liferea has an indicator applet plugin somewhere?
[16:17] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i might not have time to look at that today
[16:17] <chrisccoulson> fta - not that i'm aware of
[16:18] <chrisccoulson> but i might be wrong ;)
[16:18] <fta> hm, ok, too bad. thanks
[16:19] <kenvandine> fta, not sure
[16:20] <kenvandine> fta, i would think so... tedg is an huge liferea user and he created the indicators
[16:21] <kenvandine> fta, i just asked him
[16:21] <kenvandine> there isn't
[16:22] <fta> kenvandine, no plan either?
[16:22] <kenvandine> he wants it
[16:22] <kenvandine> but hasn't found the time or anyone else to do it
[16:22] <kenvandine> i knew he had talked about it way back during jaunty
[18:24] <fta> kenvandine, too bad the "Show foo" is not always at the same place in the indicator applet, it's confusing compared to the old tray
[18:25] <kenvandine> agreed
[18:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: don't worry about that mozilla bug if you don't have time...I have a lead on it now and will look at it later
[18:49] <micahg> [reed]: thanks for subscribing the proper people to the build bug
[18:58] <[reed]> ;)
[18:59] <micahg> [reed]: next time I'll ping \you...
[19:04] <micahg> asac: mdeslaur didn't use the USN we got from Jamie in the published noticed
[19:08] <asac> err
[19:08] <asac> so the USN disagree?
[19:08] <asac> wow
[19:08] <micahg> yep
[19:09] <micahg> asac: also seamonkey has the same 5 CVEs plus 1
[19:16] <fta> oh my, dropped ~750 packages from my main desktop
[19:16] <fta> lots of kernels and old gnome stuff
[19:17] <fta> tons of libs
[19:17] <fta> i'm afraid to reboot now :P
[19:17] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[19:17] <BUGabundo> do it , do it fta
[19:51] <fta> BUGabundo, done
[19:51] <fta> it survived
[19:51] <fta> mostly
[19:51] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    18404 2010-03-18 20:47 _usr_sbin_spamd.0.crash
[19:51] <fta> -rw------- 1 fta  fta     42758 2010-03-18 20:49 _usr_bin_gwibber.1000.crash
[19:51] <fta> -rw------- 1 fta  fta     35210 2010-03-18 20:49 _usr_bin_gwibber-service.1000.crash
[19:53] <fta> "Can not start couchdb" & "[Errno 111] Connection refused" respectively
[19:53] <fta> kenvandine, ^^
[19:54] <kenvandine> no errors from couchdb startup?
[19:55] <fta> no other crash file
[19:56] <fta> maybe it starts too early
[19:58] <BUGabundo> good good
[19:58] <fta> for spamd, it's "shutdown-hang"
[19:58] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: I'm sending you my electric bill
[19:58] <BUGabundo> gwibber is a cpu hog :|
[19:59] <kenvandine> BUGabundo, gwibber-service?
[19:59] <BUGabundo> yep
[19:59] <kenvandine> i wish i could see why... mine is almost always idle :/
[19:59] <BUGabundo> on each sync
[19:59] <BUGabundo> my cpu stall at 100%
[19:59] <BUGabundo> and fan goes crazy
[19:59] <kenvandine> suck
[20:00] <BUGabundo> ohh and there's a bug with the list
[20:00] <BUGabundo> if you add _too_ many ppl
[20:00] <kenvandine> ?
[20:00] <BUGabundo> you can't scroll it
[20:00] <BUGabundo> it gets trunked by the screen
[20:00] <kenvandine> what do you mean?
[20:01] <kenvandine> bug # please?
[20:01] <BUGabundo> and If you add over 5 users timelines to monitor, it will stop updating the all thing
[20:01] <BUGabundo> I ran it on debug mode and could see any output
[20:01] <BUGabundo> ill file it latter tonight
[20:01] <BUGabundo> toghether with a wish but
[20:01] <kenvandine> so you added 5 user streams?
[20:02] <BUGabundo> no
[20:02] <BUGabundo> I added 15
[20:02] <BUGabundo> I was stress testing gwibber
[20:02] <BUGabundo> 3 µblog accounts and 15 twitter user timelines
[20:03] <BUGabundo> (stupid limitation of twitter not showing me an user entire timeline, but only replies to ppl I also follow)
[20:04] <kenvandine> BUGabundo, humm... i still don't understand
[20:04] <kenvandine> what do you mean added?
[20:05] <kenvandine> you mean streams for people right?
[20:06] <BUGabundo> yes
[20:08] <kenvandine> so it stops refreshing if you do that?
[20:08] <kenvandine> i am getting notifications
[20:08] <BUGabundo> if I had too many
[20:08] <kenvandine> i added 10
[20:08] <BUGabundo> not sure I hit api limit
[20:14] <kenvandine> so the backend doesn't refresh? or the UI doesn't update?
[20:14] <kenvandine> BUGabundo, what exactly doesn't refresh ?
[20:14] <BUGabundo> *any* timeline
[20:15] <BUGabundo> afaict UI
[20:15]  * kenvandine adds more
[20:15] <kenvandine> working fine with 10 twitter and 10 identi.ca
[20:15] <BUGabundo> but I don't recall if I saw new ballons either
[20:15] <BUGabundo> identica doesn't count :) there's no api limit
[20:15] <BUGabundo> let me try again
[20:15] <BUGabundo> could have been a fluke
[20:16] <BUGabundo> and there goes my CPU :(
[20:18] <BUGabundo> err UI just froze... its dimmed
[20:19] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: if I try to open the chanel/user list (drop down arrow) it just freezes
[20:19] <BUGabundo> 8 users time line, General and Reply tabs
[20:19] <BUGabundo> I'm still getting new items
[20:20] <BUGabundo> need a screenshot?
[20:20] <kenvandine> yes
[20:20] <kenvandine> not sure what a chanel/user list is :)
[20:20] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-gwibber.png
[20:20] <BUGabundo> the dropdown list
[20:20] <BUGabundo> there's not much UI other then that
[20:21] <BUGabundo> its clipped on the bottom
[20:21] <kenvandine> oh
[20:21] <BUGabundo> and with that many I can't even move my mouse over items to select it
[20:21] <kenvandine> the treeview on the left
[20:21] <BUGabundo> so now, I can't remove them
[20:21] <BUGabundo> its not on the left
[20:21] <BUGabundo> its where ever you open it :D
[20:22] <BUGabundo> ahh wait
[20:22] <BUGabundo> I can close the users timelines
[20:22] <BUGabundo> but I get no mouse overlay
[20:25] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: http://www.gwibber.com/develop/ is blank
[20:25] <kenvandine> where is that linked from?
[20:27] <kenvandine> BUGabundo, ok, added my 26th twitter stream and it caused a traceback from gwibber-service
[20:27] <kenvandine> the 26th feed was just blank from twitter
[20:27] <kenvandine> but on another refresh it worked
[20:28] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: from gwibber.com top bar
[20:28] <kenvandine> and the service never actually crashed... but i got a crash dialog
[20:28] <kenvandine> oh
[20:28] <kenvandine> well the site is about 5% complete :)
[20:28] <BUGabundo> np
[20:28] <kenvandine> not surprised :-D
[20:28] <BUGabundo> not
[20:28] <BUGabundo> just letting you know
[20:28] <kenvandine> ok
[20:28] <BUGabundo> could have skipped
[20:28]  * BUGabundo files wish but
[20:28] <BUGabundo> *bug
[20:28] <kenvandine> how big is your database?
[20:28] <kenvandine> ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages
[20:30] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: what do you think ?  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/541483
[20:31] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: dint your CPU flat die with 28th streams?
[20:31] <kenvandine> no
[20:31] <kenvandine> my load never went over .2
[20:31] <kenvandine> i am not a fan of the HOME stream... but ryan likes it
[20:32] <BUGabundo> I use two
[20:32] <BUGabundo> HOME and replies
[20:32] <kenvandine> it doesn't keep pulling those streams once you remove it
[20:32] <BUGabundo> what do you use?
[20:32] <kenvandine> i use the all messages one
[20:32] <jcastro> hm, what is the difference?
[20:32] <BUGabundo> (2010-03-18 20:32:05) seg|away: BUGabundo: I can make an option for that in 3.0
[20:32] <kenvandine> and my netbook i use full screen with multi column layout showing both messages and replies side by side
[20:33] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: what jcastro asked
[20:33] <BUGabundo> what's the diff????
[20:33] <kenvandine> jcastro, i have never seen the point of the home one
[20:33] <kenvandine> afaict no difference
[20:33] <kenvandine> wasted space
[20:33] <BUGabundo> ok, 3 pane now
[20:33] <kenvandine> but ryan says it is a little different
[20:33] <BUGabundo> home, message, reply
[20:33] <BUGabundo> lets see this at work
[20:34] <kenvandine> BUGabundo, how big is your database?
[20:34] <BUGabundo> no idea
[20:34] <BUGabundo> never checked
[20:34] <BUGabundo> but it runs 20h/7
[20:34] <kenvandine> please check
[20:34] <kenvandine> ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages
[20:34] <BUGabundo> ls: cannot access /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages: No such file or directory
[20:35] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 618M 2010-03-18 20:34 /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages.couch
[20:35] <kenvandine> oh
[20:35] <kenvandine> yeah :)
[20:35] <kenvandine> yikes!
[20:35] <kenvandine> ok
[20:35] <jcastro> hahahahah
[20:35] <kenvandine> open this in firefox
[20:35] <BUGabundo> :)
[20:35] <jcastro> man I told you, bad idea
[20:35] <kenvandine> ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html
[20:35] <kenvandine> you will see a list of databases
[20:35] <BUGabundo> Desktop CouchDB
[20:35] <BUGabundo> Your desktop CouchDB is the data store for many of your applications. You can browse around it to see which data your applications are storing.
[20:35] <kenvandine> select each database and then hit "compact"
[20:35] <BUGabundo> Taking you to your Desktop CouchDB in 30 seconds... take me there straight away from now on (remember to bookmark this page first!)
[20:35] <BUGabundo> I don't see any DB
[20:36] <kenvandine> click it :)
[20:36] <BUGabundo> clicked
[20:36] <kenvandine> we are about to start auto compacting
[20:36] <kenvandine> but i want to see if we compact your's, if it makes a difference on your CPU load
[20:36] <BUGabundo> compating messages table
[20:36] <BUGabundo> can't I just delete it?
[20:36] <kenvandine> do the other two gwibber onces
[20:36] <kenvandine> no
[20:36] <BUGabundo> I don't need ANYTHING
[20:37] <kenvandine> don't do that
[20:37] <BUGabundo> don't share with other PC
[20:37] <BUGabundo> don't want backlog
[20:37] <kenvandine> i want to see if compacting it makes a difference
[20:37] <BUGabundo> at least not like this
[20:37]  * BUGabundo is a gineepig
[20:37] <kenvandine> you can delete if from time to time if you like
[20:37] <kenvandine> but not now :)
[20:37] <BUGabundo> compacted
[20:37] <kenvandine> great
[20:37] <kenvandine> do gwibber_accounts and gwibber_preferences too
[20:38] <BUGabundo> that's 0.9MBs
[20:38] <kenvandine> how big are they now?
[20:38] <kenvandine> after compacting?
[20:38] <kenvandine> yeah, messages is the only big one
[20:38]  * BUGabundo wonders what's the proper UNITS now that lucid _changed_ it
[20:38] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 111M 2010-03-18 20:38 /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages.couch
[20:39] <kenvandine> ok
[20:39] <BUGabundo>  ls /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/ | pastebinit
[20:39] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397447/
[20:39] <kenvandine> killall gwibber gwibber-service
[20:39] <kenvandine> and start it again
[20:39] <kenvandine> lets see if it improves your CPU problems
[20:39] <BUGabundo> ahhhh silence at last
[20:39] <BUGabundo> starting
[20:40] <BUGabundo>   PID  SYSCPU  USRCPU  VGROW  RGROW  RDDSK  WRDSK  ST EXC S  CPU CMD     1/4
[20:40] <BUGabundo>  4966   0.84s   3.60s     0K   672K     0K     8K  --   - S  89% beam.smp
[20:40] <BUGabundo> 11070   0.35s   1.15s 517.8M 192.0M     0K     0K  N-   - S  30% gwibber-servic
[20:40] <BUGabundo> 10971   0.18s   1.06s  8564K  8564K     0K     0K  --   - S  25% gwibber
[20:40] <BUGabundo> 11069   0.36s   0.79s 517.8M 192.1M     0K     0K  N-   - S  23% gwibber-servic
[20:40] <kenvandine> we plan to autocompact for lucid, and if i get push back on getting that into lucid after beta-1, it is nice to have amunition :)
[20:41] <kenvandine> wow beam.smp is way high
[20:41] <BUGabundo> it was on open
[20:41] <BUGabundo> its always like that on syncs
[20:41] <kenvandine> what is it at now?
[20:41] <BUGabundo> I have it on 5 min refresh
[20:42] <kenvandine> mine doesn't go that high at start though
[20:42] <BUGabundo> doesn't even show now
[20:42] <kenvandine> ok
[20:42] <BUGabundo> 11008   0.00s   0.01s     0K     0K     0K     0K  --   - S   0% gwibber-servic
[20:42] <BUGabundo> 11008      0      0       2158K 541.8M 201.9M     0K     0K   5% gwibber-servic
[20:43] <BUGabundo> now refreshing
[20:43] <BUGabundo>  4966   1m55s   8m45s 112.5M 20868K 623.2M 200.6M  N-   - S  11% beam.smp
[20:43] <BUGabundo>  4966   0.72s   2.19s     0K     0K     0K    20K  --   - S  58% beam.smp
[20:43] <BUGabundo>   PID  SYSCPU  USRCPU  VGROW  RGROW  RDDSK  WRDSK  ST EXC S  CPU CMD     1/2
[20:43] <BUGabundo> 11339   0.57s   2.72s     0K     0K     0K     0K  --   - S  65% gwibber-servic
[20:43] <BUGabundo>  4966   0.55s   2.34s     0K     0K     0K     8K  --   - S  57% beam.smp
[20:44] <kenvandine> having all those streams does really increated my load on startup and refresh
[20:44] <BUGabundo> ahahaaahahahahahaa
[20:45] <BUGabundo> well not many ppl would have 26 extra timelines
[20:45] <kenvandine> but beam.smp never tops 37%
[20:45] <BUGabundo> but I would like to have 4 or 5
[20:45] <kenvandine> and gwibber-service hit 53% for like 2 seconds
[20:45] <BUGabundo> closed tabs, and showing in HOME or Messages
[20:45] <BUGabundo> can i have your CPU then ?
[20:45] <BUGabundo>   PID  SYSCPU  USRCPU  VGROW  RGROW  RDDSK  WRDSK  ST EXC S  CPU CMD     1/2
[20:45] <BUGabundo> 11537   0.57s   2.87s     0K     0K     0K     0K  --   - S  69% gwibber-servic
[20:45] <BUGabundo>  4966   0.36s   2.37s     0K     0K     0K     4K  --   - S  54% beam.smp
[20:45] <BUGabundo> 11536   0.03s   0.37s     0K    20K     0K     4K  --   - R   8% gwibber-servic
[20:45] <kenvandine> then dropped down to ~26% for about 20s
[20:46] <BUGabundo> I can atop log it for you
[20:46] <kenvandine> bouncing around in the 20 range
[20:46] <kenvandine> one sec
[20:46] <BUGabundo> C2D T8300 2.4GHz running lucid 64bits
[20:47] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397451/
[20:47] <kenvandine> save that to a script and run it in cron every minute
[20:47] <kenvandine> change the paths of course
[20:50] <BUGabundo> done
[20:53] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: its not outputting anythign
[20:54] <kenvandine> it should write to those files
[20:54] <BUGabundo> I know
[20:54] <BUGabundo> ~$ ls -alh stats
[20:54] <BUGabundo> total 8.0K
[20:54] <BUGabundo> drwxr-xr-x  2 bugabundo bugabundo 4.0K 2010-03-18 20:50 ./
[20:54] <BUGabundo> drwxr-x--x 97 bugabundo bugabundo 4.0K 2010-03-18 20:50 ../
[20:54] <BUGabundo> and that's it
[21:12] <fta> asac, my last update of chromium got a "Waiting for approval" and is nowhere to be seen
[21:14] <micahg> fta: it's in unapproved
[21:14] <fta> oh
[21:15] <micahg> fta: archive freeze, universe requires manual push
[21:15] <fta> tried all the other options except this one :P
[21:15] <micahg> fta: queue will probably be cleared after beta release tomorrow
[21:16] <asac> fta: is it beta critical?
[21:16] <asac> otherwise it has to wait till queue opens
[21:16] <fta> nope
[21:16] <asac> if its needed seriously you need to go in #ubuntu-release and let them know
[21:16] <asac> they will let it in then
[21:16] <asac> but all will go in after beta freeze is over
[21:17] <micahg> wow, builders are empty...
[21:17] <fta> it is long due, i have no idea why it was not in weeks ago, i closed it in the branch but apparently forgot to push it or it failed
[21:31] <ejat> BUGabundo: ya gwibber still eating the CPU ?
[21:31] <BUGabundo> back
[21:31] <BUGabundo> ejat: not as much now, it seems
[21:31] <BUGabundo> after compating it
[21:32] <ejat> how do u do that :)
[21:34] <ejat> i think mine also ok for now ..
[21:36] <BUGabundo> (2010-03-18 20:35:17) kenvandine: ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html
[21:36] <BUGabundo> (2010-03-18 20:35:29) kenvandine: you will see a list of databases
[21:36] <BUGabundo> (2010-03-18 20:35:48) kenvandine: select each database and then hit "compact"
[21:51] <ejat> thanks
[21:51] <ejat> Taking you to your Desktop CouchDB in 30 seconds...
[22:00] <fta> BUGabundo, about ch on x64, it's been native for a while now, except native client, but that changed a few days ago
[22:02] <BUGabundo> fta: what is the diff about native browser and native client?
[22:04] <fta> "native client" is a feature (NaCL)
[22:05] <micahg> fta: that's for old salt dogs :P
[22:05] <fta> http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/native-client-and-web-portability.html
[22:08] <BUGabundo> ohh I remember reading about that NaCL
[23:18] <micahg> asac: are you available?