[00:27] * gnomefreak never gonna get email done at this rate [00:29] gnomefreak: mail? whats that? [00:29] :) [00:58] its not asking me what to do even though setting == ask me [01:27] !buttons [01:27] Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto [01:27] oh damn [01:27] !control === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak === gandi_ is now known as gandi [03:42] Can anyone help me figure out why sometimes my filters will run and sometimes they wont? [03:42] in thunderbird3 [07:00] asac, i'm finding that firefox 3.7 won't allow deluge torrent to start files after they're downloaded despite loading the client. i'm not seeing this in 3.6. [08:50] morning o/ [08:59] ho [09:00] fta: we need to work on getting a testing community ramped up [09:01] to get new major versions up, it requires thorough exposure [09:01] e.g. we cannot just through a new beta/stable out without that [09:01] but yes, we want to do major version updates for chromium the same way we want to do that for firefox [09:03] * BUGabundo_remote is test ready [09:04] asac: you mean starting lucid, FF will keep up with major upstream releases ? [09:08] we will go for new major upstreams when old ff becomes EOL [09:09] ahh makes sense [11:16] asac: I haven't been able to open FF 3.7 in weeks [11:16] it always complains its already running [11:16] even in safe-mode [11:18] check with chrisccoulson [11:18] chrisccoulson: what happened to the ppa upload ;) [11:18] guess you didnt figure how to upload with -security? [11:18] one sec [11:18] hey asac - yeah, i couldn't figure that out [11:18] so mdeslaur uploaded directly to the security ppa for me [11:18] chrisccoulson: you have to force the pocket like: [11:18] [ppa-ums-lucid] [11:18] fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net [11:18] incoming = ~ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/lucid/ [11:18] login = anonymous [11:19] asac - thanks :) [11:19] i would probably never have figured that one out ;) [11:19] heh [11:19] did mdeslaur figure ;? [11:19] asac: when will we get a drop of FF 4? [11:19] i assume so [11:20] BUGabundo_remote: not sure. is trunk already moving towards 4.0? [11:20] chrisccoulson: ok its up https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+packages [11:20] so we should blog about it ;) [11:20] though we want to release today i guess [11:20] but still [11:21] let me microblog for now ;) [11:21] yeah, i think mdeslaur was fairly keen to do the release today after some testing [11:21] asac: beats me... ask [reed] :p [11:23] chrisccoulson: yes, we dont do releasese on friday [11:23] so either today or monday ... [11:23] chrisccoulson: install vms and test ;) [11:23] yeah, that makes sense [11:23] releases on friday are sometimes problematic ;) [11:48] asac - did you understand what was causing bug 456468? shouldn't the fix for bug 518760 have solved that, or is there more than 1 issue? [11:48] Launchpad bug 456468 in network-manager-applet "upgrade triggers nm-applet "resource not found" ... missing icon "nm-applet-device"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/456468 [11:48] Launchpad bug 518760 in network-manager-applet "stops during karmic->lucid upgrade, shows error message" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518760 [11:52] chrisccoulson: thats understood [11:52] didnt mvo add a patch? [11:52] just create a link to some icon with the missing name in the package [11:55] asac - the current version in the archive has a change by mvo to ship the old icon [11:55] but seb128 still says he sees the issue [11:55] yeah. then its not all icons [11:55] we probably miss another one [11:56] chrisccoulson: seb does upgrade tests? [11:56] i think so === nikolam__ is now known as nikolam [13:36] I have set that when I mark a mail as spam, it should move to spam folder, but it doesn't move it? Any idea what could be wrong / how I can debug it ? [14:48] asac: have you returned? [15:02] micahg: on calls for a few more hours [15:02] then yes. [15:03] asac: yay \o/ [15:58] hey guys [15:58] i read this in a bug report, what is it supposed to mean? [15:58] "since Mozilla moved to non-versioning" [15:59] Can someone please decline the nominations since this is not required since Mozilla moved to non-versioning [16:07] Hilikus: firefox source package will be unversioned now [16:08] what does that mean?? [16:08] as an end-user [16:08] Hilikus: nothing for you [16:09] all updates will be immediatly available? [16:09] Hilikus: well, we want to try to provide continual updates, even major versions when they happen.. [16:09] so that still means that for major version changes i still have to wait for the next ubuntu release? [16:10] Hilikus: well, we plan on moving hardy/jaunty to firefox 3.6 soon [16:13] Candidate: 3.7~a3~hg20100304r38917+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 [16:13] micahg, ^^ no update?? [16:14] fta: patch failed [16:14] will fix tonight [16:14] fta: oh wait...no, problem is dep wait [16:14] fta: xul193 broke with gcc 4.4 [16:14] in 2 weeks? [16:15] mozilla 550823 [16:15] Mozilla bug 550823 in Build Config "cannot find -lmozalloc when building with gcc-4.4" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550823 [16:17] chrisccoulson: do you have time to look at this ^^ [16:17] kenvandine, chrisccoulson: does liferea has an indicator applet plugin somewhere? [16:17] micahg - i might not have time to look at that today [16:17] fta - not that i'm aware of [16:18] but i might be wrong ;) [16:18] hm, ok, too bad. thanks [16:19] fta, not sure [16:20] fta, i would think so... tedg is an huge liferea user and he created the indicators [16:21] fta, i just asked him [16:21] there isn't [16:22] kenvandine, no plan either? [16:22] he wants it [16:22] but hasn't found the time or anyone else to do it [16:22] i knew he had talked about it way back during jaunty === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:24] kenvandine, too bad the "Show foo" is not always at the same place in the indicator applet, it's confusing compared to the old tray [18:25] agreed [18:49] chrisccoulson: don't worry about that mozilla bug if you don't have time...I have a lead on it now and will look at it later [18:49] [reed]: thanks for subscribing the proper people to the build bug [18:58] <[reed]> ;) [18:59] [reed]: next time I'll ping \you... [19:04] asac: mdeslaur didn't use the USN we got from Jamie in the published noticed [19:08] err [19:08] so the USN disagree? [19:08] wow [19:08] yep [19:09] asac: also seamonkey has the same 5 CVEs plus 1 [19:16] oh my, dropped ~750 packages from my main desktop [19:16] lots of kernels and old gnome stuff [19:17] tons of libs [19:17] i'm afraid to reboot now :P [19:17] ehehe [19:17] do it , do it fta [19:51] BUGabundo, done [19:51] it survived [19:51] mostly [19:51] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18404 2010-03-18 20:47 _usr_sbin_spamd.0.crash [19:51] -rw------- 1 fta fta 42758 2010-03-18 20:49 _usr_bin_gwibber.1000.crash [19:51] -rw------- 1 fta fta 35210 2010-03-18 20:49 _usr_bin_gwibber-service.1000.crash [19:53] "Can not start couchdb" & "[Errno 111] Connection refused" respectively [19:53] kenvandine, ^^ [19:54] no errors from couchdb startup? [19:55] no other crash file [19:56] maybe it starts too early [19:58] good good [19:58] for spamd, it's "shutdown-hang" [19:58] kenvandine: I'm sending you my electric bill [19:58] gwibber is a cpu hog :| [19:59] BUGabundo, gwibber-service? [19:59] yep [19:59] i wish i could see why... mine is almost always idle :/ [19:59] on each sync [19:59] my cpu stall at 100% [19:59] and fan goes crazy [19:59] suck [20:00] ohh and there's a bug with the list [20:00] if you add _too_ many ppl [20:00] ? [20:00] you can't scroll it [20:00] it gets trunked by the screen [20:00] what do you mean? [20:01] bug # please? [20:01] and If you add over 5 users timelines to monitor, it will stop updating the all thing [20:01] I ran it on debug mode and could see any output [20:01] ill file it latter tonight [20:01] toghether with a wish but [20:01] so you added 5 user streams? [20:02] no [20:02] I added 15 [20:02] I was stress testing gwibber [20:02] 3 µblog accounts and 15 twitter user timelines [20:03] (stupid limitation of twitter not showing me an user entire timeline, but only replies to ppl I also follow) [20:04] BUGabundo, humm... i still don't understand [20:04] what do you mean added? [20:05] you mean streams for people right? [20:06] yes [20:08] so it stops refreshing if you do that? [20:08] i am getting notifications [20:08] if I had too many [20:08] i added 10 [20:08] not sure I hit api limit [20:14] so the backend doesn't refresh? or the UI doesn't update? [20:14] BUGabundo, what exactly doesn't refresh ? [20:14] *any* timeline [20:15] afaict UI [20:15] * kenvandine adds more [20:15] working fine with 10 twitter and 10 identi.ca [20:15] but I don't recall if I saw new ballons either [20:15] identica doesn't count :) there's no api limit [20:15] let me try again [20:15] could have been a fluke [20:16] and there goes my CPU :( [20:18] err UI just froze... its dimmed [20:19] kenvandine: if I try to open the chanel/user list (drop down arrow) it just freezes [20:19] 8 users time line, General and Reply tabs [20:19] I'm still getting new items [20:20] need a screenshot? [20:20] yes [20:20] not sure what a chanel/user list is :) [20:20] kenvandine: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-gwibber.png [20:20] the dropdown list [20:20] there's not much UI other then that [20:21] its clipped on the bottom [20:21] oh [20:21] and with that many I can't even move my mouse over items to select it [20:21] the treeview on the left [20:21] so now, I can't remove them [20:21] its not on the left [20:21] its where ever you open it :D [20:22] ahh wait [20:22] I can close the users timelines [20:22] but I get no mouse overlay [20:25] kenvandine: http://www.gwibber.com/develop/ is blank [20:25] where is that linked from? [20:27] BUGabundo, ok, added my 26th twitter stream and it caused a traceback from gwibber-service [20:27] the 26th feed was just blank from twitter [20:27] but on another refresh it worked [20:28] kenvandine: from gwibber.com top bar [20:28] and the service never actually crashed... but i got a crash dialog [20:28] oh [20:28] well the site is about 5% complete :) [20:28] np [20:28] not surprised :-D [20:28] not [20:28] just letting you know [20:28] ok [20:28] could have skipped [20:28] * BUGabundo files wish but [20:28] *bug [20:28] how big is your database? [20:28] ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages [20:30] kenvandine: what do you think ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/541483 [20:30] Ubuntu bug 541483 in gwibber "show selected user timelines in HOME" [Undecided,New] [20:31] kenvandine: dint your CPU flat die with 28th streams? [20:31] no [20:31] my load never went over .2 [20:31] i am not a fan of the HOME stream... but ryan likes it [20:32] I use two [20:32] HOME and replies [20:32] it doesn't keep pulling those streams once you remove it [20:32] what do you use? [20:32] i use the all messages one [20:32] hm, what is the difference? [20:32] (2010-03-18 20:32:05) seg|away: BUGabundo: I can make an option for that in 3.0 [20:32] and my netbook i use full screen with multi column layout showing both messages and replies side by side [20:33] kenvandine: what jcastro asked [20:33] what's the diff???? [20:33] jcastro, i have never seen the point of the home one [20:33] afaict no difference [20:33] wasted space [20:33] ok, 3 pane now [20:33] but ryan says it is a little different [20:33] home, message, reply [20:33] lets see this at work [20:34] BUGabundo, how big is your database? [20:34] no idea [20:34] never checked [20:34] but it runs 20h/7 [20:34] please check [20:34] ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages [20:34] ls: cannot access /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages: No such file or directory [20:35] -rw-r--r-- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 618M 2010-03-18 20:34 /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages.couch [20:35] oh [20:35] yeah :) [20:35] yikes! [20:35] ok [20:35] hahahahah [20:35] open this in firefox [20:35] :) [20:35] man I told you, bad idea [20:35] ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html [20:35] you will see a list of databases [20:35] Desktop CouchDB [20:35] Your desktop CouchDB is the data store for many of your applications. You can browse around it to see which data your applications are storing. [20:35] select each database and then hit "compact" [20:35] Taking you to your Desktop CouchDB in 30 seconds... take me there straight away from now on (remember to bookmark this page first!) [20:35] I don't see any DB [20:36] click it :) [20:36] clicked [20:36] we are about to start auto compacting [20:36] but i want to see if we compact your's, if it makes a difference on your CPU load [20:36] compating messages table [20:36] can't I just delete it? [20:36] do the other two gwibber onces [20:36] no [20:36] I don't need ANYTHING [20:37] don't do that [20:37] don't share with other PC [20:37] don't want backlog [20:37] i want to see if compacting it makes a difference [20:37] at least not like this [20:37] * BUGabundo is a gineepig [20:37] you can delete if from time to time if you like [20:37] but not now :) [20:37] compacted [20:37] great [20:37] do gwibber_accounts and gwibber_preferences too [20:38] that's 0.9MBs [20:38] how big are they now? [20:38] after compacting? [20:38] yeah, messages is the only big one [20:38] * BUGabundo wonders what's the proper UNITS now that lucid _changed_ it [20:38] -rw-r--r-- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 111M 2010-03-18 20:38 /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/gwibber_messages.couch [20:39] ok [20:39] ls /home/bugabundo/.local/share/desktop-couch/ | pastebinit [20:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/397447/ [20:39] killall gwibber gwibber-service [20:39] and start it again [20:39] lets see if it improves your CPU problems [20:39] ahhhh silence at last [20:39] starting [20:40] PID SYSCPU USRCPU VGROW RGROW RDDSK WRDSK ST EXC S CPU CMD 1/4 [20:40] 4966 0.84s 3.60s 0K 672K 0K 8K -- - S 89% beam.smp [20:40] 11070 0.35s 1.15s 517.8M 192.0M 0K 0K N- - S 30% gwibber-servic [20:40] 10971 0.18s 1.06s 8564K 8564K 0K 0K -- - S 25% gwibber [20:40] 11069 0.36s 0.79s 517.8M 192.1M 0K 0K N- - S 23% gwibber-servic [20:40] we plan to autocompact for lucid, and if i get push back on getting that into lucid after beta-1, it is nice to have amunition :) [20:41] wow beam.smp is way high [20:41] it was on open [20:41] its always like that on syncs [20:41] what is it at now? [20:41] I have it on 5 min refresh [20:42] mine doesn't go that high at start though [20:42] doesn't even show now [20:42] ok [20:42] 11008 0.00s 0.01s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 0% gwibber-servic [20:42] 11008 0 0 2158K 541.8M 201.9M 0K 0K 5% gwibber-servic [20:43] now refreshing [20:43] 4966 1m55s 8m45s 112.5M 20868K 623.2M 200.6M N- - S 11% beam.smp [20:43] 4966 0.72s 2.19s 0K 0K 0K 20K -- - S 58% beam.smp [20:43] PID SYSCPU USRCPU VGROW RGROW RDDSK WRDSK ST EXC S CPU CMD 1/2 [20:43] 11339 0.57s 2.72s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 65% gwibber-servic [20:43] 4966 0.55s 2.34s 0K 0K 0K 8K -- - S 57% beam.smp [20:44] having all those streams does really increated my load on startup and refresh [20:44] ahahaaahahahahahaa [20:45] well not many ppl would have 26 extra timelines [20:45] but beam.smp never tops 37% [20:45] but I would like to have 4 or 5 [20:45] and gwibber-service hit 53% for like 2 seconds [20:45] closed tabs, and showing in HOME or Messages [20:45] can i have your CPU then ? [20:45] PID SYSCPU USRCPU VGROW RGROW RDDSK WRDSK ST EXC S CPU CMD 1/2 [20:45] 11537 0.57s 2.87s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 69% gwibber-servic [20:45] 4966 0.36s 2.37s 0K 0K 0K 4K -- - S 54% beam.smp [20:45] 11536 0.03s 0.37s 0K 20K 0K 4K -- - R 8% gwibber-servic [20:45] then dropped down to ~26% for about 20s [20:46] I can atop log it for you [20:46] bouncing around in the 20 range [20:46] one sec [20:46] C2D T8300 2.4GHz running lucid 64bits [20:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/397451/ [20:47] save that to a script and run it in cron every minute [20:47] change the paths of course [20:50] done [20:53] kenvandine: its not outputting anythign [20:54] it should write to those files [20:54] I know [20:54] ~$ ls -alh stats [20:54] total 8.0K [20:54] drwxr-xr-x 2 bugabundo bugabundo 4.0K 2010-03-18 20:50 ./ [20:54] drwxr-x--x 97 bugabundo bugabundo 4.0K 2010-03-18 20:50 ../ [20:54] and that's it === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_dinner [21:12] asac, my last update of chromium got a "Waiting for approval" and is nowhere to be seen [21:14] fta: it's in unapproved [21:14] oh [21:15] fta: archive freeze, universe requires manual push [21:15] tried all the other options except this one :P [21:15] fta: queue will probably be cleared after beta release tomorrow [21:16] fta: is it beta critical? [21:16] otherwise it has to wait till queue opens [21:16] nope [21:16] if its needed seriously you need to go in #ubuntu-release and let them know [21:16] they will let it in then [21:16] but all will go in after beta freeze is over [21:17] wow, builders are empty... [21:17] it is long due, i have no idea why it was not in weeks ago, i closed it in the branch but apparently forgot to push it or it failed === BUGabundo_dinner is now known as BUGabundo [21:31] BUGabundo: ya gwibber still eating the CPU ? [21:31] back [21:31] ejat: not as much now, it seems [21:31] after compating it [21:32] how do u do that :) [21:34] i think mine also ok for now .. [21:36] (2010-03-18 20:35:17) kenvandine: ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html [21:36] (2010-03-18 20:35:29) kenvandine: you will see a list of databases [21:36] (2010-03-18 20:35:48) kenvandine: select each database and then hit "compact" [21:51] thanks [21:51] Taking you to your Desktop CouchDB in 30 seconds... [22:00] BUGabundo, about ch on x64, it's been native for a while now, except native client, but that changed a few days ago [22:02] fta: what is the diff about native browser and native client? [22:04] "native client" is a feature (NaCL) [22:05] fta: that's for old salt dogs :P [22:05] http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/native-client-and-web-portability.html [22:08] ohh I remember reading about that NaCL === gavin__ is now known as gavin [23:18] asac: are you available? === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu