[01:50] <MrCoffee1> Well, I have two-part inquiry if anyone can offer some insight or point me in the right direction
[01:52] <MrCoffee1> Is there a way to prevent ubuntu from suspending if there are active or upcoming recrdings
[01:54] <MrCoffee1> And is there a way upon resuming to determine if it was the backend that initiated it
[01:59] <MrCoffee1> The less-important other half is getting mythfronend to time-out and initiate the suspension
[02:05] <MrCoffee1> my display is susceptible to burn-in so I'm trying to kill two birds by consolidating remotes and having the system turn the display off when not in use.
[02:07] <MrCoffee1> keeping it on the system-level somehow makes pairing the backend with other apps simple
[02:07] <mrand> MrCoffee1: you may find more information on these topics on the mythbuntu forums.  I don't have any experience with them - but having said that, I'd be surprised if the machine shutdown immediately before (or during!) a recording if things are configured properly.
[02:08] <mrand> As with most problems, most likely people have discussed this previously on the forums, so I'd try searching there.
[02:08] <mrand> Then posting if you can't find an answer.
[02:12] <MrCoffee1> Likely, I'm probably just getting lazy
[02:15] <MrCoffee1> but having no experience I've run into something of a wall as far as what to search for
[02:18] <mrand> MrCoffee1: I'd think that searching for suspend would bring up quite a few hits.   I've gotta run... have fun!
[02:21] <MrCoffee1> that might be the issue
[02:22] <MrCoffee1> I've gotten as far as having scripts that mess with the system's bahavior
[02:23] <MrCoffee1> what I'm unsure of is interfacing them with mythtv
[02:24] <tgm4883> MrCoffee1, for the second question I think that might be something doable with 0.23 easily
[02:24] <tgm4883> there is a system events portion of mythtv which I think could do something like that
[02:24] <tgm4883> I haven't looked much into it though
[03:12] <mardok> Hi, does anyone know if this motherboard will work well as a backend? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121383
[03:12] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - Intel BOXD945GCLF2D Intel Atom processor 330 Intel 945GC Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo - Motherboard / CPU / VGA Combo
[12:59] <donEduardo> hi there
[12:59] <donEduardo> got a little problem with my mythtv-backend in 10.04 alpha
[12:59] <donEduardo> as it seems, the backend is not started in an utf8-locale
[13:00] <donEduardo> so it does not find videos with non-ascii chars in the MythVideo
[13:02] <donEduardo> had do attach "LC_ALL=de_CH.utf8 LANG=de_CH.utf8" before "/usr/bin/mythbackend $ARGS" in /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf to get it to work.
[13:02] <donEduardo> what is the correct way to fix this?
[15:42] <McNever> hey guys... just installed 9.10 on my backend... xserver wont start now
[15:42] <McNever> http://pastebin.com/qAuL62KH
[15:44] <superm1> McNever, does failsafex kick in?
[15:44] <superm1> er, how'd you install without X working in the first place - did you use an ubuntu alternate?
[15:47] <McNever> installed using live cd
[15:48] <McNever> ran through the install fine... on the reload it didnt start xserver
[16:00] <McNever> and i'm sorry... i'm not sure what failsafex is...
[16:02] <superm1> that's really bizarre if it worked for the live cd and not on the reboot
[16:03] <superm1> did you pick the ATI closed source graphics driver per chance?
[16:03] <superm1> (during install)
[16:07] <McNever> eerrr.... i remember seeing it and thinking about it... but i didnt think i did...
[16:08] <McNever> i know i clicked on the pull down menu.... maybe i did...
[16:09] <McNever> if i did... how do i pull that without reinstalling?
[16:10] <superm1> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:10] <superm1> and mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[16:11] <McNever> i have no xorg.conf
[16:11] <McNever> i thought 9.10 didnt use it?
[16:12] <superm1> it doesn't by default
[16:12] <superm1> well see if you have xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:12] <superm1> it doesnt look like you do from that backtrace though
[16:13] <McNever> woot
[16:13] <McNever> yeah i removed it.. it started fine
[16:13] <superm1> cool
[16:13] <McNever> thanks super.... ur super
[16:14] <superm1> np
[16:27] <McNever> ok... next issue
[16:28] <McNever> when i try to 'watch live tv' it goes to the display, i never get a picture and it then it goes back to the menu with an error that says "error opening jump program file'
[16:28] <McNever> i was getting this before but assumed it was related to the channel i was starting on... now that i can run mythtv-backend setup i changed the start channel but am getting the same issue
[16:31] <superm1> did you use a nonstandard recordings directory perhaps and the permissions are wrong?
[16:31] <superm1> take a look at the backend log for errors at the same time
[16:32] <mrand> channel changer timeout can also cause problems like that.   Oh, and do your tuners work outside of myth?
[16:34] <McNever> actually i'm not sure how to test it outside of myth
[16:35] <McNever> recording dir default
[16:35] <mrand> many programs will open tuners.... vlc is but one that I believe does.  Or you can go command line and "cat /dev/insert-your-videodevicename > /tmp/captured_video.mpg"
[16:42] <McNever> i dont see anywhere in vlc to conf a tuner?
[16:44] <mrand> McNever: does your VLC not have Media -> Open capture device
[16:47] <McNever> oops
[16:48] <ball> Hmm... cable TV company wants to charge me US$ 16/month for a DVR.  I'd rather use Mythbuntu and donate US$ 10/month to open source development. ;-)
[16:48] <McNever> yes it does and yeah i get video... crappy video but video none the less
[16:48] <mrand> ball: cool!
[16:48] <mrand> McNever: I wonder if Myth might reject it because it is too crappy.
[16:49] <ball> ...don't know whether Mythbuntu will work with their service though.
[16:50] <mrand> ball: MythTV (which is what Mythbuntu is based on) works with just about everything, in some form for fashion.  The problem with cable is that if you want to get encrypted channels, you have to pay their annoying set-top-box charge no matter what.  I'm hoping to drop the set-top-box and just use over-the-air digital TV (for free, and better quality) sometime in the future.
[16:51] <mrand> and by encrypted channels, I mean nearly any channel except local ones.
[16:51] <mrand> But a set-top-box without DVR is still cheaper than one with DVR.
[16:51] <ball> mrand: I would like to do that too, but I'm too fat to climb the tower.
[16:52] <ball> mrand: Ah, sounds as though I'll need to use /their/ DVR then. :-\
[16:52] <mrand> ball: Depending on your distance, lots of people get really good reception without much of an antenna.
[16:52] <McNever> mrand: hope not... new card just ordered it
[16:53] <mrand> ball: my point was that you can get cheaper cable boxes without DVR.  But in reality, if you are going to pay for cable anyway, Myth doesn't lower your cost by much.
[16:53] <mrand> McNever: might not be the card... perhaps the feed/cables/something else
[16:53] <ball> mrand: I'm about 97km S. of Chicago
[16:54] <ball> (60 miles)
[16:54] <ball> ...and most of the stations we would watch are broadcast from Chicago
[16:54] <ball> (except WYIN, which is close enough it'll get into a side lobe of the antenna.
[16:54] <ball> )
[16:56] <ball> mrand: pity.  I know where I'd rather the money went.
[16:59] <mrand> ball: it's appreciated.  Many shows are available online now... it might be possible, with MythNetVision that is coming in 0.23 release of MythTV (and included in 10.04 Mythbuntu), that many of your favorite shows could be streamed.  At least, that, combined with over the air, is what I'm hoping to migrate to eventually.
[17:00] <McNever> the quality doesnt look bad like bad cable singal bad... it looks... softened
[17:01] <mrand> McNever: ok.  So it's back to channel changing script, or what superm mentioned.
[17:01] <ball> mrand: I would be happy with FTA, but Mrs. ball wants a lot more television than I do.
[17:01] <ball> ...most of the shows I watch are on PBS anyway.
[17:05] <McNever> drwxrwsr-x  2 103 105 4096 2010-03-18 12:56 livetv
[17:07] <mrand> !perm%
[17:07] <Zinn> Most things mythtv related (recording directories, etc) need to be owned by the group mythtv and the user mythtv  If you are getting "not writable" errors, check your permissions
[17:09] <mrand> McNever: what do your logs say around the time that you try to switch to livetv?  You can use mythLogGrabber (aka MLG).
[17:11] <McNever> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fY7TGA6Q
[17:20] <McNever> i mv'ed the mythbackend.log and tried it again to get a clean log....
[17:21] <McNever> and this time i got an error 'video frame buffering failed to many times'
[17:27] <mrand> McNever: looks like buffering failed too many times is a problem others have had.   http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/426169  http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/423854
[17:27] <Zinn> [www.gossamer-threads.com] Problems after upgrade, "video frame buffering failed too many times" | MythTV | Users
[19:37] <McNever> doesnt look like any of the above links are related
[19:38] <McNever> still getting "error opening jump program file" everytime i try to view livetv
[20:03] <mrand> McNever: it may have been resolved in the bug fixes version of Myth... do you have the autobuilds repo enabled?
[20:06] <mrand> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309997&page=2 also suggests that some people may have been resolving this by going back into the mythtv-setup after enabling auto-builds and going through the tuner config again.
[20:06] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] error opening jump program file - Page 2 - Ubuntu Forums
[22:08] <McNever> thanks mrand... i went back through the config again and rescanned my channels... looks like that did took care of it
[22:13] <McNever> wondering if someone might be able to answer to some VDPAU questions for me...
[22:14] <McNever> i've got a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M and i'm not sure what VDPAU profile i should be using
[22:15] <McNever> looks like high works the best but HD stuff is still jumpy... no tiling... just jumpy