| nhandler | jrib: We can't have ubottu treat kick messages as comments. Too many people use scripts that automatically specfiy a kick comment. Having a bunch of generic "You should know better" comments would not really be helpful | 00:56 |
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| Myrtti | er, correct me if I'm wrong, but kick messages ARE treated as comments | 00:58 |
| Myrtti | that's how it's been in the ban tracker since time immemorial | 00:58 |
| gnomefreak76 | has anyone wrote a factoid about the window buttons | 01:26 |
| gnomefreak76 | ok !buttons is not it | 01:28 |
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| Myrtti | why would anyone have written such a factoid and what do you think it should say | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | Myrtti: lucid window control buttons moved to left side | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | people dont like that | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | alot of them too | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | its one of those "lets throw it in there and see if people like it" type things IIRC | 01:30 |
| nhandler | I might be useful to include a link to a page explaining how to move the buttons back to the right. I have a feeling that will be a FAQ after lucid is released | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | nhandler: there are a few of them but knowing how long they will be up is not known | 01:31 |
| nhandler | gnomefreak: Do we have a page on the wiki explaining how to move the buttons? | 01:32 |
| Myrtti | feels a bit of yakshaving | 01:32 |
| * gnomefreak can add them but i was told that someone may have already done that | 01:32 | |
| gnomefreak | nhandler: nope not that i know of | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | that is one. most of them are on blogs | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | none official | 01:33 |
| nhandler | Yeah, I've seen the blog posts. It might be good to get a page added to the community help wiki about this. | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | nhandler: yeah i wanted to the other day but was unable to find enough time to do it. there is also at least 1 bug report with the many ways to change it | 01:35 |
| nhandler | gnomefreak: Maybe talk to the people in #ubuntu-doc and see if someone there has some time to prepare a page | 01:36 |
| Myrtti | y'all should just use Xubuntu. We fortunate people have a gui for changing the location and positioning of them. | 01:37 |
| Myrtti | *SNERK* | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | it wont be this week for me. im just finishing up updates and ill be gone for a day or 3 | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | ubuntu-tweek will do it | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | #ubuntu-doc | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | damn | 01:37 |
| nhandler | Myrtti: Kubuntu has something to do that too iirc | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | asked in *-doc | 01:41 |
| Myrtti | ohai bikcmp | 03:39 |
| bikcmp | uhh... | 03:42 |
| bikcmp | chazz? | 03:42 |
| mneptok | @login | 03:55 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 03:55 |
| Myrtti | !ping | 04:03 |
| ubottu | One ping only, Vassily. | 04:03 |
| Myrtti | @whoami | 04:04 |
| Myrtti | @login | 04:04 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 04:04 |
| Myrtti | bikcmp: so what brings you here? | 04:06 |
| bikcmp | Myrtti: Was going to say that a bad nick joined, but it's all fixed now | 04:11 |
| bikcmp | :) | 04:11 |
| * mneptok gestures at the /topic | 04:13 | |
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| === Guest15691 is now known as bikcmp | ||
| bazhang | bikcmp, hi | 05:03 |
| bikcmp | hello bazhang | 05:06 |
| bikcmp | sorry, rejoined here by accident. | 05:06 |
| bazhang | bikcmp, did you need some assistance? | 05:06 |
| bazhang | aha | 05:06 |
| * mneptok whips bazhang | 05:14 | |
| mneptok | FASTER, damn you! | 05:14 |
| bazhang | hehe | 05:15 |
| bazhang | !sa | 05:22 |
| bazhang | @sa | 05:22 |
| Flannel | Meh. | 05:25 |
| Flannel | Services are down | 05:25 |
| wgrant | I thought my scripts were broken when anonymous_ didn't disappear. | 05:25 |
| wgrant | But no, no privileges for us., | 05:26 |
| bazhang | weird. there is no channel at #ubuntu-sa , even though the wiki for loco teams list it as such | 05:26 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:55 |
| ubottu | maco called the ops in #ubuntu (Nichelle posting dangerous commands) | 08:50 |
| ubottu | FireCrotch called the ops in #ubuntu (Kamela) | 08:55 |
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| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !sunjava =~ s/$/ (Partner repository in Lucid)/ | 14:35 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 14:35 | |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !no, tab is <reply> You can use the <tab> key to autocomplete nicknames in IRC. Start typing someone's name, then press the tab key and your client should finish it for you. Doing this at the start of your message will notify the other person of your message in most clients. You can also use the <tab> key to complete filenames and programs on the command line. | 14:55 |
| KB1JWQ | If someone gets the chance, can I get some constructive feedback on a forum post? | 14:59 |
| KB1JWQ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1432243 <-- My last response. I wanted to make sure that was in the right tone for the forums. I'm entirely too used to IRC, I just don't want to come across as "RTFM, noob!" if I can avoid it. | 15:00 |
| jussi01 | !gq | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question. | 15:17 |
| Pici | KB1JWQ: I think thats fine, I'm not a fan of ESR's guide myself, but for a subject such as sendmail, you really need a real question before you cans tart troubleshooting. | 15:17 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: you might waant to use that one ^^ | 15:17 |
| KB1JWQ | Ahh, never saw that before. | 15:18 |
| KB1JWQ | Thanks Pici and jussi01. | 15:18 |
| KB1JWQ | I'll help if I can, but I REALLY need specific questions in most cases. :-) "Teach me X" isn't something I accept from anyone as a problem request. | 15:19 |
| KB1JWQ | jussi01: Unfortunately I think that one's too IRC centric. | 15:20 |
| KB1JWQ | What I like about ESR's guide is that it covers almost every online medium you could hope for. | 15:20 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, thafreak said: !gates is teh suck | 15:25 |
| Myrtti | +b *!*@169.Red-79-150-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net ? | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | objections? | 15:44 |
| Pici | Myrtti: Was he kicked earlier? | 15:44 |
| Myrtti | someone from that ip, yes | 15:44 |
| Myrtti | and banned | 15:44 |
| Myrtti | different ident | 15:45 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:45 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:45 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:45 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:46 |
| ubottu | FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (flood) | 17:02 |
| genii | "lspci" into the channel ... :/ | 17:05 |
| ikonia | seems fixed | 17:05 |
| genii | ikonia: The bot caught it and gave a pastebin warn, etc | 17:06 |
| ikonia | I wish kubuntu would start putting things into main rather than ppa's | 17:06 |
| ikonia | lead by example | 17:06 |
| Myrtti | [19:31] ~~~dancing-bot [~dancing-b@95-25-136-1.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #ubuntu | 17:31 |
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| lorenzo | #ubuntu-it-chat | 18:00 |
| mneptok | lorenzo: you MUST type /join first | 18:02 |
| mneptok | !it | 18:02 |
| ubottu | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 18:02 |
| mneptok | scrivi /join #ubuntu-it | 18:02 |
| mneptok | non scrivi #ubuntu-it solo | 18:03 |
| Mamarok | lorenzo: e poi, dommanda agli altri nel canale Italiano come adjungere il canale automaticamente, cosi non dévi scrieverlô ogni volta | 18:15 |
| Myrtti | !soc ~= s/2006/2010/ | 19:48 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Myrtti | 19:48 |
| arvind_k | Hi, please change the factoid of soc | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | !soc | 19:48 |
| ubottu | soc is Google's Summer of Code project; see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2010 and http://code.google.com/soc/ | 19:48 |
| arvind_k | oh Myrtti just did that :) | 19:48 |
| arvind_k | thanks | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | ahead of you ;-) | 19:48 |
| arvind_k | hahaha :) btw do you happen to know where will the mentors be hanging around ? | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | no idea | 19:49 |
| Myrtti | "IRC: #ubuntu-gsoc or #gsoc on freenode" | 19:49 |
| Myrtti | as on the link in the factoid | 19:49 |
| arvind_k | oh ok, let me check it out , thanks anyways :) | 19:49 |
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| Myrtti | !xampp | 20:03 |
| ubottu | We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information. | 20:03 |
| Myrtti | !pm > sascha_ | 20:06 |
| ubottu | In #kubuntu, human_ said: ubottu, this package from repository is going without music | 20:23 |
| ubottu | In #kubuntu, human_ said: ubottu, this is the latest version http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/download/blobwars/blobwars-1.17-1.i386.deb | 20:25 |
| ubottu | In #kubuntu, human_ said: ubottu, but it is not correctly working with UTF-8 | 20:26 |
| * genii rolls his eyes | 20:26 | |
| Myrtti | !bot > human_ | 20:38 |
| guntbert | please have a look at<nocturnus> in #ubuntu - he seems to switch between dubious advice - off topic chatter - rudeness ... | 20:50 |
| ikonia | ok | 20:52 |
| ikonia | my eyes are open | 20:52 |
| guntbert | ikonia: not completely sure though ... but thx | 20:53 |
| ikonia | lets wait and see | 20:53 |
| guntbert | exactly what I was asking for :-) | 20:53 |
| ikonia | looks like you're right already | 20:53 |
| guntbert | what a pity | 20:54 |
| guntbert | I'd prefer to be wrong | 20:54 |
| * ikonia angers at the stupidity of ubuntu including the app "wtf" | 20:55 | |
| ikonia | inline with it's code of conduct | 20:55 |
| Myrtti | !info wtf | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Package wtf does not exist in karmic | 20:56 |
| ikonia | oh, it's gone - good | 20:56 |
| Myrtti | !info wtf jaunty | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Package wtf does not exist in jaunty | 20:56 |
| ikonia | interesting, maybe it wasn't in the official repo's | 20:56 |
| Myrtti | !info wtf hardy | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Package wtf does not exist in hardy | 20:56 |
| * Myrtti goes to kick the wifi access point, bash it with a mallet and pour cola on the pieces | 20:57 | |
| ikonia | oh dear | 20:57 |
| Myrtti | my bloodpressure isn't doing too well when I'm using the hotel wifi | 20:58 |
| nocturnus | ikonia: ar eyou there? | 21:01 |
| nocturnus | oh hello elky | 21:01 |
| ikonia | yes | 21:01 |
| nocturnus | Are you getting my PM's ...? | 21:02 |
| ikonia | yes | 21:02 |
| nocturnus | Perhaps my IRC client is blocking them | 21:02 |
| ikonia | no | 21:02 |
| nocturnus | I mean when you reply | 21:02 |
| nocturnus | [ because I'm +G ] | 21:02 |
| ikonia | ok | 21:03 |
| nocturnus | Well ...? | 21:05 |
| ikonia | well what ? | 21:05 |
| nocturnus | Well I'm wondering if you read my queries or what? | 21:05 |
| ikonia | I read them, and explained to them I'm not unbanning you at the moment | 21:05 |
| nocturnus | I didn't get a PM | 21:06 |
| ikonia | if you didn't get them, I'll explain it again here, | 21:06 |
| nocturnus | You can copy/paste if you wish. | 21:06 |
| ikonia | I'm not unbanning you as I asked you multiple times to stop referencing sofas and you chose to play dumb and pretend you had not mentioned sofas | 21:06 |
| nocturnus | No ... that's not what I meant ... | 21:06 |
| ikonia | other users complained about your offtopic comments, I attempted to stop them and you tried to push me/be smart with me | 21:06 |
| nocturnus | I know I said the word sofas once, but as I said it was a pun, and not a reference | 21:06 |
| nocturnus | I don't really know anything about sofas. | 21:07 |
| ikonia | I'm sure you don't | 21:07 |
| nocturnus | Then what's the problem? | 21:07 |
| ikonia | I asked you to stop referncing it 3 times and you're last words where to mention it again | 21:07 |
| nocturnus | I only said it once, the other times was because you asked me | 21:07 |
| ikonia | yes, and I asked you to stop and you just kept referencing sofas | 21:07 |
| nocturnus | I think this is a communication error - not my first language you know .. | 21:07 |
| ikonia | I understand english may not be your first language | 21:08 |
| nocturnus | *sigh* | 21:08 |
| nocturnus | I wasn't ~referencing~ them, just replying to the replies you gave! | 21:08 |
| ikonia | yet I kept asking you to stop and you kept replying | 21:08 |
| ikonia | instead of stopping | 21:08 |
| nocturnus | Because I don't understanded what the problem is .. | 21:08 |
| nocturnus | I didn't spam "sofa sofa sofa sofa ..." | 21:08 |
| nocturnus | understood rather | 21:09 |
| ikonia | I didn't say you spammed sofa sofa sofa | 21:09 |
| ikonia | you where making offtopic comments, sofa was one of them, I asked you to stop and you kept pushing it | 21:09 |
| nocturnus | Well on several occasions - that's what I meant by 's s s s ...' | 21:09 |
| nocturnus | As soon as you brought it up with me, I directed all sofa-related puns towards you for clarificatoin | 21:10 |
| ikonia | how about stopping all "puns" as you where told to | 21:10 |
| ikonia | nocturnus: how do you know elky ? | 21:10 |
| nocturnus | She's the head organiser in #ubuntu-women | 21:11 |
| nocturnus | I used to go there a year ago | 21:11 |
| ikonia | ahh, so you would be known to her then | 21:11 |
| nocturnus | Not formally. | 21:12 |
| nocturnus | Certainly not by this alias | 21:12 |
| ikonia | she'll remember you | 21:12 |
| ikonia | oh really | 21:12 |
| ikonia | what alias | 21:12 |
| nocturnus | webchat aliases, I don't remember | 21:12 |
| ikonia | ok - what country are you in ? | 21:13 |
| nocturnus | Canada | 21:13 |
| ikonia | lets see if she remebers you and will vouch for your behaviour when she wakes up | 21:13 |
| ikonia | as I'm not convinced by your behaviour at all | 21:13 |
| nocturnus | This is quite rude, I know what you're trying to imply. | 21:13 |
| ikonia | what am I trying to imply ? | 21:13 |
| nocturnus | Well ... what can I say. | 21:14 |
| ikonia | I've just stated what I'm doing | 21:14 |
| nocturnus | 17:09:23 <+ikonia> oh really | 21:14 |
| ikonia | ? | 21:14 |
| nocturnus | It doesn't sound to me like you're 'just stating'. My english isn't great but I'm not socially stupid | 21:14 |
| ikonia | I have just stated what I'm doing | 21:14 |
| ikonia | I am asking elky if she remembers you to vouch for you as I'm not convinced by your behaviour | 21:15 |
| nocturnus | How could she 'remember' me provided I told you I was not introduced formally and that I used web-chat | 21:15 |
| ikonia | ok - now I don't believe you as I've just seen you've been muted in ##linux too for problematic behaviour | 21:17 |
| ikonia | so I'm going to leave the ban in place for a while, you can think about your behaviour | 21:17 |
| nocturnus | I was muted in #linux for telling people not to offer 100$ discounts on hardware | 21:18 |
| ikonia | that's not the case | 21:18 |
| nocturnus | This is why I meant you are implying more than you are saying. | 21:18 |
| ikonia | again - you're behaviour | 21:18 |
| ikonia | I'm not implying anything, I'm stating clearly | 21:18 |
| nocturnus | Please be fair. | 21:18 |
| ikonia | I am | 21:18 |
| nocturnus | You just jumped to conclusions based on my #linux 'behavior' | 21:18 |
| ikonia | no, it is in addition to your behaviour in #ubuntu | 21:19 |
| nocturnus | Seeing as you're in # | 21:19 |
| nocturnus | whoops | 21:19 |
| nocturnus | in #ubuntu, you could have easily given me a second chance | 21:19 |
| ikonia | I gave you 3 chances to stop going on about sofa's / offtopic | 21:19 |
| nocturnus | It can't be 'in addition' to my behavior in #ubuntu because that's the original case in question | 21:19 |
| ikonia | ok - I'm not playing this game | 21:19 |
| nocturnus | #ubuntu is the parent case, the additional case is #linux | 21:20 |
| ikonia | I'll state the situation | 21:20 |
| nocturnus | You just use circular reasoning to convict me! | 21:20 |
| nocturnus | I know the situation. | 21:20 |
| nocturnus | I'm banned until you are convinced. | 21:20 |
| ikonia | nocturnus: you where asked to stop being offtopic in #ubuntu - an example was mentioning sofas | 21:20 |
| ikonia | nocturnus: you did not stop so you where removed | 21:20 |
| nocturnus | Please ... | 21:20 |
| nocturnus | save your breath, I have a buffer on my IRC client ... | 21:20 |
| ikonia | nocturnus: I suspect your beahviour with your current nickname may be an attempt to hide previous bad behaviour on other nicks - but I'm not certain | 21:21 |
| ikonia | you're behaviour and banning in ##linux backs up that your behaviour in #ubuntu was not an accident or missunderstanding | 21:21 |
| ikonia | therefore I am leaving the ban in place at this time | 21:21 |
| nocturnus | ikonia: If you want to bring #linux into question, I have psi-jack to vouch for me, and he's a very knowledgeful regular | 21:21 |
| ikonia | I'm not brining ##linux into the equasion - they can do what they wish as their channel, however the fact that you got put on mute for similar behaviour to ubuntu suggests you know what you are doing | 21:22 |
| nocturnus | ikonia: sorry about that, I had to reconnect | 21:38 |
| nocturnus | Have you taken the time to consider a response to my last questions? | 21:38 |
| ikonia | no need to apologise, nothing more to say | 21:38 |
| nocturnus | Well a response to my questions would be delightful ... | 21:39 |
| ikonia | I didn't see a question | 21:39 |
| nocturnus | Hmm ... perhaps I am mistaken. | 21:39 |
| nocturnus | Oh wait I remember, | 21:39 |
| nocturnus | how long until I can put this fiasco behind me? | 21:39 |
| nocturnus | ... and rejoin #ubuntu? | 21:40 |
| ikonia | come back in a few days and we'll review it then | 21:40 |
| nocturnus | I don't think I'll be comming back at all, perhaps months into the future .. | 21:40 |
| ikonia | then why ask ? | 21:40 |
| ikonia | for the record psi-jack ##linux staff wouldn't vouch for him | 21:46 |
| elky | ikonia, sorry, i can only vouch for his existence, not his behaviour. He spent the other day informing #ubuntu-women how he was Alpha Male and a lot of people there got quite creeped out by this | 21:48 |
| ikonia | elky: stinks of someone like bacta | 21:49 |
| ikonia | his nick was registered in jan 2010 | 21:50 |
| ikonia | the way he singled you out | 21:50 |
| elky | he singled me out because i booted him for proclaiming his alpha maleness | 21:50 |
| ikonia | ooh right | 21:50 |
| ikonia | he claimed he used to be in #ubuntu-women about a year ago | 21:50 |
| elky | i recall a similar nick that doesn't idle there permanently any longer, but unless he confirms it's only speculation | 21:51 |
| ikonia | odd, the guys in ##linux-ops where shocked he's asked them to vouch for him as they had pretty negative things to say | 21:52 |
| ikonia | and yet he found ##club-ubuntu straight away | 21:52 |
| elky | ikonia, did the ##linux-ops stuff seem based on recent times? | 21:54 |
| ikonia | yes | 21:54 |
| ikonia | he's only been registered sice jan 2010 | 21:55 |
| ikonia | they didn't have much to go on | 21:55 |
| ikonia | !ping | 22:25 |
| ikonia | ubottu's hung | 22:25 |
| ubottu | One ping only, Vassily. | 22:27 |
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