| slangasek | UNE respun finished, new candidate posted | 01:06 |
|---|---|---|
| slangasek | s/respun/respin/ | 01:06 |
| slangasek | others to follow ASAP | 01:07 |
| slangasek | KNR also posted | 01:30 |
| slangasek | Ubuntu desktop is up | 01:44 |
| cr3 | slangasek: iso image? | 01:56 |
| slangasek | cr3: yes | 01:56 |
| cr3 | slangasek: have there been a few respins today? I noticed that my activity queue for running jobs in certification is rather big today | 01:56 |
| cr3 | battery is dying, back tomorrow | 01:59 |
| slangasek | cr3: prior to now, the last respin run was last night | 01:59 |
| cr3 | slangasek: thanks, I'll have a closer look at my queue then to make sure it doesn't start overloading | 02:00 |
| tgm4883 | I noticed on the QA site it lists the mythbuntu images as rebuilding, but the current/ folder for the daily live disk has 2 images in it. Should I expect that these two images are bad and I need to wait for the rebuilt ones, or would these images be good to start mirroring? | 02:32 |
| tgm4883 | I ask, because I thought in the past that if there was a rebuild that the current/ folder gets emptied | 02:32 |
| slangasek | tgm4883: the current folder always has images in it, current doesn't mean candidate | 03:41 |
| slangasek | tgm4883: I've just posted the new mythbuntu candidates | 03:41 |
| slangasek | well - "always" has images in it; when it doesn't, it means the build failed and the scripts didn't notice | 03:43 |
| stgraber | hello, just arrived home after a whole evening of work in the server room at the office. | 03:43 |
| stgraber | I see that all DVDs are being rebuilt, any ETA ? | 03:44 |
| slangasek | stgraber: ETA of 30min for edubuntu | 03:45 |
| stgraber | ok, I'll see how awake I'm in 30min then. Worst case I'll e-mail highvoltage and hope he'll wake up earlier than me ;) | 03:46 |
| slangasek | hmm - sorry, not 30min, 45min | 03:46 |
| tgm4883 | slangasek, thanks for the info | 03:48 |
| slangasek | stgraber: edubuntu up | 04:41 |
| ara | good morning all | 06:21 |
| sbeattie | hey ara. | 07:27 |
| ara | hey sbeattie :) | 07:27 |
| sbeattie | are you still in london? | 07:28 |
| ara | sbeattie, no, I arrived to Malaga yesterday afternoon | 07:28 |
| sbeattie | Ah, cool, just in time to burn out iso testing. :-) | 07:28 |
| sbeattie | ara: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Plymouth ? | 07:29 |
| ara | sbeattie, I've seen some updates as i am subscribed to /Testing/* | 07:29 |
| ara | what is all about? | 07:30 |
| sbeattie | keybuk, slangasek, and possibly others spent today trying to fix plymouth issues and slangasek wanted to try to cover testing all the possible boot situations for plymouth. | 07:31 |
| sbeattie | since it's going on to the beta1 isos at the last minute | 07:32 |
| ara | sbeattie, ok | 07:42 |
| sbeattie | hrm, is the kubuntu bottom panel supposed to visible in the livecd environment? | 07:42 |
| ara | meaning, while installing? | 07:42 |
| sbeattie | no, just in the "try kubuntu before installing" environment. | 07:43 |
| ara | sbeattie, then, you're supposed to have a full environment, aren't you? | 07:44 |
| ara | sbeattie, can you imagebin? | 07:44 |
| sbeattie | ara: will do, one sec | 07:46 |
| sbeattie | ara: http://imagebin.org/89349 | 07:50 |
| ara | sbeattie, indeed, that's a bug | 07:52 |
| ara | sbeattie, well, did you choose "try kubuntu" or you just let it timeout? | 07:53 |
| sbeattie | try kubuntu | 07:53 |
| ara | sbeattie, then it is a bug in casper, I guess. Can you reproduce? | 07:54 |
| ara | sorry, I had to kill xchat, sbeattie, I was asking if it is reproducible | 07:58 |
| sbeattie | ara, yep, reproducible in vbox/amd64, seeing if it i386 reproduces. | 07:58 |
| sbeattie | err, it reproduces on i386/vbox. | 07:58 |
| ara | sbeattie, :( | 07:58 |
| * sbeattie wonders if the small screen size is causing the panel not to display. | 07:59 | |
| sbeattie | I'll try on live hardware in a bit. | 08:00 |
| ara | sbeattie, ok, thanks, I will try in KVM | 08:01 |
| sbeattie | yeah, reproduces in i386/vbox. | 08:03 |
| ara | sbeattie, I cannot reproduce in KVM | 08:18 |
| sbeattie | hunh | 08:18 |
| sbeattie | ara: what resolution is your kvm environment? | 08:18 |
| ara | sbeattie, not sure, but higher than vbox's 800x600 | 08:20 |
| ara | sbeattie, so it might be the resolution | 08:20 |
| sbeattie | yeah, I don't reproduce it on live hardware w/1440x960 | 08:21 |
| sbeattie | so I don't think it's casper, but whatever the kde panel is. | 08:21 |
| ara | sbeattie, do you get graphical splash in vbox? | 08:39 |
| sbeattie | ara: no, I get a text based splash. | 08:40 |
| sbeattie | hrm, reconsidering how I answered the matrix | 08:41 |
| ara | sbeattie, me too, but, do you get sometimes fsck messages without having set the details mode | 08:41 |
| sbeattie | no, but I get other messages on the screen (broken pipe, ureadahead) | 08:41 |
| ara | sbeattie, ok, I get those too | 08:42 |
| ara | sbeattie, and I guess these are not supposed to be visible, are they? | 08:42 |
| sbeattie | no, they're not. | 08:42 |
| ara | sbeattie, is there a bug I can subscribe to? | 08:43 |
| sbeattie | ara: hrm, I can't find one, though I know keybuk knows about it. | 08:53 |
| sbeattie | best to file one, I guess. | 08:55 |
| slangasek | the fsck messages are bug #535108 | 09:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 535108 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Hide console messages while Plymouth is running (affects: 10) (dups: 3)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535108 | 09:24 |
| slangasek | morning, folks | 09:24 |
| slangasek | ara: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3833/442, the test case instructions say I should see a pop-up about incomplete language support and I didn't | 09:29 |
| slangasek | ara: is the testcase out of date, or is this a bug? | 09:29 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: hrm, these messages puke over the aubergine display, not before the splash shows up. | 09:30 |
| sbeattie | (which is what 535108 seems to be about, though it may just be different consequences of the same bug) | 09:30 |
| ara | slangasek, it should pop up, it is a bug | 09:30 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: same basic issue; the console is in text mode, so anything written to the console by another process gets shown | 09:31 |
| slangasek | wasn't "The Aubergine Display" a Pournelle novel? | 09:31 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: okay. | 09:32 |
| slangasek | ara: ok - what are the packages it's looking to be able to install? language-support-es? | 09:32 |
| ara | slangasek, at least you're using the DVD | 09:32 |
| ara | slangasek, are you using the DVD? | 09:32 |
| slangasek | ara: no; Ubuntu desktop on USB | 09:32 |
| davmor2 | ara: can you have a quick look at bug 540776 and confirm it if you agree please, I figure this will be something that needs work pretty pronto if it is going to be fixed | 09:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540776 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Gdm theme makes it impossible to see accessibility option (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540776 | 09:34 |
| dpm | hey ara | 09:35 |
| dpm | hi everyone | 09:35 |
| ara | dpm, slangasek is having an issue with no network installations | 09:35 |
| slangasek | hi | 09:35 |
| dpm | hey slangasek | 09:35 |
| ara | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3833/442, the test case instructions say I should see a pop-up about incomplete language support and I didn't | 09:35 |
| ara | ara: is the testcase out of date, or is this a bug? | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | hello dpm | 09:35 |
| slangasek | after install in Spanish, I didn't get prompted about incomplete language support | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | hello slangasek wfm on this notebook just | 09:35 |
| ara | what packages should be looking at to show (or not show) the pop up? | 09:35 |
| dpm | ara, it is a bug, we detected while testing the alpha-3. Let me find the bug no... | 09:36 |
| dpm | ara, I think it's between ubiquity and language-selector | 09:36 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: scrap that I did an english install sorry | 09:36 |
| ara | launchpad bugs wishlist: in between packages bugs :D | 09:37 |
| dpm | :P | 09:37 |
| dpm | ara, slangasek, it's bug 527623 | 09:37 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 527623 in language-selector (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Notification of missing language support not shown after installation (affects: 1)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527623 | 09:37 |
| dpm | heya davmor2 | 09:37 |
| slangasek | dpm: ah, already targeted and milestoned - thanks | 09:40 |
| dpm | slangasek, no worries. Thanks for testing languages, I didn't do a very good job at testing localized installations on this milestone :/ | 09:42 |
| sbeattie | hrm, is there a known bug for the kubuntu installer not finishing shutting down after installing? | 09:42 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: there was one that was supposed to have been fixed | 09:44 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: bug #526456 | 09:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 526456 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "shutdown does not work (affects: 2)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526456 | 09:45 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: it didn't make it back to plymouth. | 09:45 |
| kermiac | hey davmor2 :) - bug 540776 looks like it's probably a dupe of bug 532844 | 09:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540776 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Gdm theme makes it impossible to see accessibility option (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540776 | 09:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 532844 in light-themes (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Lucid: White symbols on light panel and Ubuntu Logo are difficult to see (affects: 14) (dups: 4)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532844 | 09:45 |
| slangasek | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3834/51 - could use some contact info for 'starslights', to find out what his framebuffer config is (and confirm he's using the right image...) | 09:47 |
| slangasek | ara, davmor2: are you able to estimate how long it will take to test all the images? | 09:59 |
| * ara checks the current state | 10:00 | |
| ara | slangasek, I guess that, if no major bugs are found, by 18UTC everything should be covered, except for things that normally people test on the other side of the ocean | 10:02 |
| slangasek | bladernr__: you marked bug #532047 as affecting beta alternate, which we know is not the case; can I get some more information from you about hardware config? (a fresh bug filed with 'ubuntu-bug plymouth' from the affected machine is simplest) | 10:02 |
| slangasek | ara: ok, thanks | 10:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 532047 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Plymouth text-mode splash causes X to crash on first run due to shared tty7 (affects: 160) (dups: 35)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532047 | 10:02 |
| davmor2 | kermiac: Yay I hate launchpad search it sucks | 10:17 |
| kermiac | davmor2: I totally agree | 10:17 |
| kermiac | I've been using google to search LP for dupes lately. I was given this by another triager - "site:bugs.launchpad.net <search terms>" | 10:18 |
| kermiac | seems to work a lot better | 10:18 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 10:54 |
| davmor2 | again | 10:54 |
| === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ | ||
| stgraber | davmor2: can you do the LTSP tests ? if you do, I'll start downloading Edubuntu | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | I can but not right now | 12:05 |
| moustafa | cr3, ara, fader_, davmor2, marjo, everyone else: Bonjour! | 12:46 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: mornnig dude | 12:47 |
| ara | hey moustafa, morning | 12:47 |
| davmor2 | morning cr3, fader_ you slacker wake up | 12:47 |
| cr3 | moustafa: baguette! | 12:47 |
| moustafa | cr3: hon! hon! | 12:47 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Allons-y! Allonso! | 12:48 |
| moustafa | Wow...I wonder if anybody tried to install Ubuntu on one of these: http://www.cybernetman.com/en/products/zero-footprint-pc/zpc-gx31.cfm | 12:54 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: you need to stop watching doctor who ;) | 12:55 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Which iteration? Also *sonic screwdriver* | 12:56 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: right going for a 64bit ltsp | 12:57 |
| stgraber | davmor2: great, thanks | 12:58 |
| stgraber | I'm doing edubuntu amd64 and highvoltage is doing 32bit | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: after lunch I'll try and fit in 32bit too | 12:58 |
| fader_ | moustafa: That thing brings back unpleasant memories of the TRS-80. | 13:00 |
| moustafa | fader_: care to elaborate? | 13:02 |
| bladernr__ | slangasek: bug 540897 opened per your request | 13:02 |
| cr3 | fader_: I had memories of the C-64 | 13:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540897 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "X/GDM crashes on first login attempt (sounds a LOT like the plymouth bug) (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540897 | 13:02 |
| fader_ | moustafa: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/trs80-colorcomputer/index.html | 13:02 |
| cr3 | fader_: did you actually have a trs-80? | 13:03 |
| fader_ | cr3: Oh yeah... my early computing experiences were divided between typing on a VT-220 hooked up to a Xenix mainframe and the Trash-80. | 13:03 |
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| cr3 | fader_: are you serious? the trs-80 is from the early 80s, either you're older than you look or you started freaking early | 13:05 |
| * cr3 was barely potty trained in the early 80s | 13:05 | |
| * sbeattie shakes his head at you kids. | 13:06 | |
| cr3 | then again, who's to say I didn't get potty trained in my 20s | 13:06 |
| fader_ | cr3: I could type before I could write with a pen/pencil. | 13:06 |
| fader_ | Not *well* mind you, but still. :) | 13:06 |
| * davmor2 had a zx81 as his first computer | 13:06 | |
| fader_ | davmor2: Nice! I've never actually played with one of those. | 13:07 |
| davmor2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX81 | 13:07 |
| cr3 | davmor2: sinclairs were much more popular in the uk, right? | 13:07 |
| davmor2 | cr3: they were the only things around for a long while | 13:07 |
| cr3 | sbeattie: you're so old, you get up at 6 in the morning :) | 13:07 |
| sbeattie | cr3: no, I'm about to call it end of wednesday. | 13:08 |
| * davmor2 wonders if me or sbeattie is older :) | 13:08 | |
| sbeattie | davmor2: I'm just slightly older than kwwii, if that helps you figure it out. | 13:09 |
| davmor2 | goes of to the directory to find out :) | 13:09 |
| fader_ | davmor2: http://www2.b3ta.com/heyhey16k/ | 13:11 |
| davmor2 | kicks directory for not displaying year | 13:13 |
| moustafa | this moment of old ggeksers remember the 80's was brought you by the number Pi and the croissant | 13:21 |
| moustafa | ggeksers should be geeksers | 13:21 |
| moustafa | And I can attest that cr3 has yet to be fully potty trained | 13:21 |
| moustafa | never has my parenting experience be put to the test in a professional environment as my time at Canonical | 13:22 |
| cr3 | moustafa: that's why parenting was part of the job requirements | 13:26 |
| moustafa | cr3: That's what you said each time, even though I had not seen any written statement about it | 13:27 |
| slangasek | "change me, it's in your job description"? | 13:28 |
| === bladernr__ is now known as bladernr_ | ||
| cr3 | slangasek: I was looking for the instinctive reflex of a parent to go into changing mode when there is a smell, so I wouldn't even need to ask... because that would be inappropriate :) | 13:30 |
| moustafa | slangasek: Yeah, I'd be reading some code, then raise my head like an ostrich and look at cr3 while saying in a teasing voice: "Did you poop again?" and his little chuckle would say it all | 13:32 |
| stgraber | Edubuntu amd64 worked fine ! | 13:43 |
| slangasek | huzzah | 13:45 |
| * highvoltage will start edubuntu i386 tests in about 2 minutes | 13:48 | |
| davmor2 | slangasek: me is just firing up thin client for ltsp 64bit | 13:48 |
| slangasek | bladernr_: followed up to the bug, please upgrade plymouth and re-test | 13:49 |
| bladernr_ | slangasek: you want I should update plymouth only, or try the latest ISOs instead? | 13:49 |
| slangasek | bladernr_: please also update http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3812/22 to point at your new bug instead of 532047 | 13:50 |
| slangasek | bladernr_: there's no newer ISO of alternate | 13:50 |
| bladernr_ | gotcha... | 13:50 |
| slangasek | this is actually the issue that we respun the desktop CDs for; didn't respin alternate because it only impacts the first login post-install | 13:50 |
| slangasek | (whereas for the desktop installer, a crashed X server could botch the whole process) | 13:51 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: meh forgot to look, I'm assuming you still need to change the /etc/lstp/dhcp.conf from i386 to amd64 on 64bit. I did it automatically | 13:52 |
| stgraber | davmor2: yes, you still need to do that on amd64 | 13:53 |
| davmor2 | phew | 13:53 |
| stgraber | davmor2: especially as Edubuntu will be shipping a pre-generated i386 chroot on the amd64 dvd, it'll actually start to make sense ;) | 13:53 |
| bladernr_ | slangasek: -17 got it. upgraded and no more X crash on my Alternate install | 13:55 |
| slangasek | bladernr_: great, thanks | 13:55 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: I just got the plymouth's dot cycling here on my client | 13:56 |
| stgraber | davmor2: what's the hardware in your client ? | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/pc-specs/hplappy.html | 14:01 |
| stgraber | ok, nvidia based then. I didn't have the chance to test that much these days | 14:02 |
| stgraber | do you happen to have an intel based computer around ? | 14:02 |
| stgraber | a netbook being the ideal ;) | 14:02 |
| slangasek | davmor2: how many display outputs do you have connected? | 14:03 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: one notebook I'm just grabbing my netbook | 14:05 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: that would work but atom processor's aren't 64bit D'oh | 14:14 |
| stgraber | davmor2: well some are but netbooks usually aren't indeed ... | 14:15 |
| davmor2 | the only other intel box I got is an i686 | 14:25 |
| davmor2 | :( | 14:25 |
| highvoltage | hmm, "Running dpkg" took quite some time | 14:32 |
| highvoltage | is that normal? | 14:32 |
| highvoltage | Edubuntu i386 is fine | 14:36 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: okay I've chrooted into the ltsp image I've updated plymouth and am rebuilding the image I'm gonna see if that fixes it if it does I'll write a bug with the step in | 14:59 |
| slangasek | davmor2: how did you get an ltsp image with an outdated plymouth? | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: it was on the cd | 15:00 |
| slangasek | which CD? | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | alternate | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | ubuntu | 15:00 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:00 |
| * davmor2 kicks box, then hops around the floor fsckin' sandles for slippers | 15:31 | |
| davmor2 | slangasek: this isn't doing anything ;( | 15:31 |
| slangasek | davmor2: you mean upgrading plymouth didn't change the behavior? | 15:32 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: that is correct | 15:33 |
| slangasek | davmor2: what happens if you hit Alt+SysRq+K? | 15:33 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: the dots stop cycling | 15:34 |
| slangasek | and nothing else? | 15:34 |
| davmor2 | doesn't seem to be | 15:34 |
| slangasek | hmm | 15:34 |
| slangasek | special | 15:35 |
| slangasek | did you say this was nvidia? | 15:35 |
| davmor2 | yeap http://www.davmor2.co.uk/pc-specs/hplappy.html | 15:35 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: this also works fine as an installed system | 15:36 |
| ara | hggdh, ttx is complaining a bit about your last minute testcases at #ubuntu-release ;-) | 16:12 |
| hggdh | ara, yes... such is life, I guess | 16:15 |
| slangasek | plars: hi, please see my followup to bug #540477 | 16:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540477 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "X restarted, but no .crash file (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540477 | 16:19 |
| plars | slangasek: hmm, no I didn't. will take a look | 16:20 |
| plars | slangasek: I'll have to reinstall, I've had to blow away that system since this test to make use of the drive elsewhere | 16:21 |
| plars | slangasek: unfortunately this looks like it may be one of those "hard to reproduce" sort of bugs | 16:21 |
| slangasek | plars: booting the installer and running cat /proc/fb should be sufficient | 16:22 |
| plars | slangasek: will do | 16:22 |
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| slangasek | ara, davmor2: how do things look? | 17:52 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: sorry I've been off working | 17:53 |
| ara | slangasek, I am trying to finish some i386 tests | 17:53 |
| ara | stgraber, can you help with the edubuntu upgrades? | 17:53 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: just finished kubuntu DVD i386 and reported dup bug | 17:59 |
| slangasek | marjo_: which bug? | 18:00 |
| marjo_ | 538213 | 18:00 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: #538213 | 18:00 |
| slangasek | marjo_: that bug should not be present on the kubuntu DVD... | 18:01 |
| marjo | slangasek: uh oh, when i read the bug description, matched my symptoms | 18:01 |
| marjo | slangasek: worth redoing & reporting new bug? | 18:02 |
| slangasek | marjo: yes, please report a new bug so we have it in your own words (and hopefully with apport data to go with it) | 18:02 |
| marjo | slangasek: ok, will do | 18:02 |
| slangasek | so looking at what's left on the board, I think we need to make the call to push the release back to tomorrow morning UTC | 18:13 |
| slangasek | I'll draft a mail to ubuntu-devel-announce to let people know, and as a CFT | 18:14 |
| slangasek | everyone testing, please continue helping us get there... but don't kill yourselves trying to hit a Thursday deadline :) | 18:15 |
| slangasek | btw, who's on Wubi duty this time around? | 18:22 |
| slangasek | davmor2: is that all you? | 18:22 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: Yeah I can hit the wubis and m-a's I'm just installing alt 32 bit ltsp to see if it is a 64bit issue | 18:29 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: did you take edubuntu upgrades? I'm about to start in them... | 19:18 |
| marjo_ | sbeattie: please go for them; it won't hurt do double up | 19:21 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: can you have a look at ltsp on ubuntu dude. On my netbook on i386 I get a kernel panic which I'm now wondering if it is the same issue on 64bit | 19:26 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: ^ | 19:26 |
| stgraber | sbeattie: I'd need to install edubuntu in a new VM first. So if you have something easily upgradable around, please feel free to do it. | 19:30 |
| stgraber | davmor2: Is that an Asus eeepc ? | 19:30 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: compaq mini 110 | 19:30 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: no, I have to do installs from scratch, sadly. | 19:30 |
| stgraber | davmor2: hmm, ok. Mine at home also kernel panic but similar hardware here at the office doesn't. | 19:31 |
| stgraber | davmor2: feel free to open a bug and attach the detailed hardware (lspci will do). I'll have a look at it. | 19:31 |
| stgraber | davmor2: I suspect we're missing a NIC driver or something since the last kernel. | 19:31 |
| stgraber | davmor2: Is that an Atlansic ethernet card by any chance ? (atl1e driver) | 19:31 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: I'm getting the same thing on my laptop but it is syncing some stuff and it has an ip address | 19:32 |
| slangasek | marjo_: no bug report yet for your X crash on enter? | 19:32 |
| stgraber | ah, ok. I'll get an ubuntu alternate i386 here and run it on our libvirt cluster at revolution linux. I don't think it's related to LTSP itself but it might be some upstart/mountall/plymouth related issue (just guessing here ;)). | 19:33 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: it's a dup = 540856 | 19:34 |
| marjo_ | sbeattie pointed it out to me | 19:34 |
| marjo_ | i've modified my report in iso tracker | 19:35 |
| marjo_ | marked it as serious | 19:35 |
| slangasek | marjo_: ah, so not a plymouth bug, how refreshing :) | 19:35 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: no | 19:35 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: yeah both boxes get an ip address and both sync some stuff and then seem to stop, but the netbook hadn't started plymouth so I could see what was going on :) | 19:35 |
| slangasek | marjo_: although, you filed that against the "debian-installer" test case, which is the alternate installer - I guess that's not what you were actually testing? | 19:36 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/541452 | 19:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 541452 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "ltsp on ubuntu is crashing with a sync issue stopping the kernel from booting (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] | 19:41 |
| marjo_ | test case=kubuntu DVD i386/install (debian-installer)/Debian-Installer Whole Drive | 19:42 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: ^^^ | 19:42 |
| slangasek | marjo_: yes; you could not have possibly run into bug #540856 with the alternate installer, the alternate installer doesn't use ubiquity | 19:43 |
| ubot4 | slangasek: Bug 540856 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/540856 is private | 19:43 |
| slangasek | ubot4: liar | 19:43 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'liar' not found | 19:43 |
| slangasek | marjo_: so perhaps the test case directions are out-of-date for lucid, and led you into testing something else | 19:44 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: i think you may be right | 19:44 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: I'm off shopping now but I'll hit what wubi and m-a I can when I get back | 19:54 |
| slangasek | ok, cheers | 19:54 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: just so you know wubi is at least doing something now which is more than yesterday morning | 19:57 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: i'm redoing the test, just to make sure re test case instructions | 19:57 |
| slangasek | marjo_: ok - when the first screen shows up with the Ubuntu logo and the "keyboard makes happy man" icon at the bottom, press a key to get to the boot menu first, then look for the "Install Kubuntu in text mode" option | 19:59 |
| ameetp | Hi folks, I am trying the Lucid amd64 netboot test. I have downloaded the mini.iso but during the install I don't get the option to select a distro flavour to install, does anyone know where that option shows up? | 20:00 |
| slangasek | marjo_: that's what should correspond to the test case; I imagine it will look very different from what you tested before | 20:00 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: ack | 20:00 |
| davmor2 | ameetp: right towards the end | 20:00 |
| davmor2 | after setting up user etc | 20:00 |
| davmor2 | ameetp: ^ | 20:01 |
| ameetp | davmor2: hmm okay, let me try again. Thanks | 20:01 |
| marjo_ | slangasek: you're right | 20:02 |
| slangasek | marjo_: ok, cool; so we should either tweak that test case so that it applies correctly to both DVD and alternate CDs, or else make a second test case for the DVD idiosyncracies | 20:02 |
| moonoi | Hi there? | 20:16 |
| fader_ | moonoi: Hello | 20:16 |
| ameetp | davmor2: I finally saw it. Thanks! I got a little TAB key happy before ;) | 20:17 |
| moonoi | can i be of any help? | 20:17 |
| fader_ | moonoi: Sure! If you're interested in helping us test Beta 1, feel free to pop over to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com, create an account, and grab an image that needs testing. | 20:18 |
| marjo_ | moonoi: welcome | 20:18 |
| fader_ | moonoi: If you're interested in hanging around and helping test, there's plenty of info at http://qa.ubuntu.com as well | 20:19 |
| fader_ | (And a mailing list, etc.) | 20:19 |
| marjo_ | to be more specific: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested | 20:19 |
| fader_ | moonoi: Feel free to ask any questions you have here as well! | 20:19 |
| fader_ | marjo_: Ah, thanks -- good point | 20:19 |
| moonoi | ok taking a look now | 20:19 |
| marjo_ | moonoi: thx! | 20:20 |
| moonoi | fader_: thanks | 20:20 |
| fader_ | moonoi: No problem! Welcome and thanks for pitching in :D | 20:21 |
| moonoi | would it be useful if i test in sun vbox? or you only interested in physical? | 20:24 |
| fader_ | moonoi: VirtualBox is quite useful :) | 20:25 |
| moonoi | ok starting now | 20:26 |
| moonoi | :-) | 20:26 |
| * fader_ is running Mythbuntu tests in VirtualBox right now. | 20:26 | |
| moonoi | im on a mac | 20:26 |
| Daviey | fader_: cool! | 20:27 |
| fader_ | Daviey: Yeah, I <3 Mythbuntu :) I have to do my testing in virtualbox because if I screw up the installed system, I'd be in Big Trouble with, er, the end users in my house. | 20:27 |
| moonoi | got the new i7 macbook pro ...:-) (jokin) hope it comes soon though | 20:28 |
| bladernr_ | Oooooo.... I <3 the background and gdm screen for Studio... | 20:31 |
| fader_ | moonoi: Regarding your upgrade... do you mean it is asking you to install edubuntu even though you have regular ubuntu installed already? | 20:33 |
| moonoi | no sorry my mistake, on the link you originally gave me that mentioned edubuntu | 20:35 |
| moonoi | now i have done the -d -c its doing the standard | 20:35 |
| fader_ | moonoi: Okay, great :) | 20:35 |
| bladernr_ | Ok... embarassingly stupid question, but how the heck do I do anything at all in KDE? All I seem to be able to do is zoom the desktop in and out, and open some tool menu that lets me add "widgets" and Doodads and thingamabobbers... | 20:39 |
| marjo_ | bladernr: click on the kde button bottom left hand corner | 20:40 |
| sbeattie | bladernr_: no bottom panel is bug 540810 | 20:40 |
| marjo_ | there you will see all the things you were looking for, i assume | 20:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540810 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "kde panel does not display on 800x600 display (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540810 | 20:41 |
| sbeattie | bladernr_: alt-f2 will bring up a search widget. | 20:41 |
| bladernr_ | sbeattie: that is probably exactly why KDE is driving me insane :) | 20:41 |
| sbeattie | you can run programs from that. | 20:41 |
| bladernr_ | cool... thanks... you to marjo_ | 20:41 |
| sbeattie | bladernr_: yes, I was quite confused for a bit about it, too. | 20:42 |
| hggdh | I am right now downloading the Ubuntu DVD, and will go thru the d-i test. | 21:04 |
| hggdh | the DVD tests are in need of help, BTW | 21:04 |
| moonoi | there is nothing on that untested link you gave me now...? am i too late | 21:04 |
| hggdh | moonoi: if you re willing, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/3842 | 21:04 |
| ara | moonoi, you have to go to inprogress | 21:05 |
| ara | moonoi, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/inprogress | 21:05 |
| moonoi | ahh ok thanks :-) | 21:05 |
| moonoi | before i had a link for the upgrade testing | 21:05 |
| moonoi | now that seems to hav egone | 21:05 |
| sbeattie | hggdh: sadly, my wee little dsl line cannae take downloading the dvd images. | 21:07 |
| hggdh | sbeattie: I am finding this myself... at .7MB/s, it will still take me about 90 minutes... | 21:11 |
| bladernr_ | sbeattie: I noticed you had marked Kubuntu alternate 64 OEM as started... did you have problems at the end of oem-config? | 21:12 |
| sbeattie | bladernr_: um, refresh your browser? this last round of images I haven't touched oem-config. | 21:13 |
| sbeattie | I did have issues with it when I tried that test, but then the isos got respun and I've paged out the details of what went wrong. | 21:14 |
| bladernr_ | mmmkay... | 21:15 |
| fader_ | Anybody gotten a kubuntu OEM install working? I don't seem to have the 'prepare for shipping' icon | 21:26 |
| sbeattie | fader_: I believe that's bug 386099 | 21:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 386099 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 3 other projects) "Kubuntu Netbook OEM install does not create a 'prepare for shipping' icon (affects: 1)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386099 | 21:28 |
| sbeattie | fader_: oh, that appears to be netbook only. Hrm. | 21:28 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Yeah, and I don't seem to have 'oem-config-prepare' either... at least not in my path | 21:29 |
| fader_ | Indeed; 'locate oem' doesn't turn it up either | 21:30 |
| sbeattie | fader_: oh! wait, let me check lastlog on #ubuntu-release, I recall a discussion about that. | 21:30 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Awesome, thanks! | 21:30 |
| sbeattie | bug 540895 | 21:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540895 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Kubuntu OEM install does not install oem-config (affects: 1)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540895 | 21:30 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Thanks | 21:37 |
| bladernr_ | fader_, sbeattie I just installed Kubuntu OEM from alternate | 21:40 |
| fader_ | bladernr_: Were you able to do the oem config after install? | 21:40 |
| bladernr_ | yep... the only issue I had was not getting KDM after doing the config. | 21:41 |
| bladernr_ | I had to reboot the VM to login | 21:41 |
| bladernr_ | bug 541546 | 21:42 |
| ubot4 | bladernr_: Error: Bug #541546 not found. | 21:42 |
| bladernr_ | doh... | 21:42 |
| fader_ | bladernr_: Hmm... did it create a desktop icon or did you run oem-config-prepare from the terminal? | 21:44 |
| bladernr_ | I had the icon (was about the only thing I could do in KDE ;-) | 21:45 |
| fader_ | Weird | 21:46 |
| bladernr_ | even weirder... If filed a bug and it's not showing up in LP :( | 21:46 |
| fader_ | Heheh | 21:46 |
| * fader_ wanders off to find some food. | 21:46 | |
| fader_ | I'll check back in a while | 21:46 |
| davmor2 | slangasek: that could be a problem on wubi I'm in the grub command line :( | 21:50 |
| bladernr_ | fader_: bug 541539 | 21:54 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 541539 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "[Lucid] after oem-config runs, X appears to hang, instead of restarting and launching KDM (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541539 | 21:55 |
| * ara posts her last result for today and calls it a day | 21:55 | |
| ara | night everyone! | 21:55 |
| davmor2 | nn ara | 21:55 |
| sbeattie | ara: g'night! | 21:57 |
| sbeattie | oh, netboot install, you go so much faster when I preseed apt-cacher. | 22:08 |
| davmor2 | :) | 22:09 |
| davmor2 | cheat | 22:09 |
| umberto | hello, i need your help | 22:29 |
| hggdh | yes, umberto? | 22:30 |
| umberto | i have an ibook g4, i am downloading ubuntu-9.10-desktop-powerpc.iso, how can i make install it on a usb? | 22:31 |
| sbeattie | ameetp: do you have netboot kubuntu amd64 going? | 22:32 |
| bladernr_ | is there any way on iso.qa to show a report of all the test cases I have done? Or is that done by subscribing each time? | 22:34 |
| sbeattie | oh, hunh, no one's taken the kubuntu alt expert tests? | 22:36 |
| hggdh | weird. The d-i test on the lucid-dvd-amd64 started OK, then suddenly threw me at the d-i menu (at the install base system piece) | 23:08 |
| hggdh | this is getting even more confusing: the options to what to install shows options for an Ubuntu Server, not a desktop. I selected 'basic Ubuntu server', and installation proceeded | 23:16 |
| hggdh | BUT it is installing X | 23:16 |
| sbeattie | hggdh: erk? | 23:17 |
| sbeattie | hggdh: I didn't see that when going through tasksel. | 23:17 |
| hggdh | sbeattie: this is rather unexpected. I will wait for it to end, and will reinstall | 23:18 |
| fader_ | Hey, you folks haven't finished off the ISOs yet? :) | 23:18 |
| sbeattie | fader_: saving the best tests for you, baby! | 23:19 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Heheh | 23:19 |
| fader_ | Some of those are things like Wubi which I can't test :) | 23:19 |
| fader_ | Looks like I can grab some kubuntu netbooks though | 23:19 |
| sbeattie | fader_: yeah, they need some love. | 23:19 |
| hggdh | I will be back in 30 min (meanwhile, installation proceeds... bumping left and right | 23:20 |
| * sbeattie is wrapping up the kubuntu alt expert tests and then needs to bail for a while. | 23:20 | |
| fader_ | Hmm, there are a few to do... BRB, going to disconnect and move to a more comfy chair | 23:20 |
| davmor2 | fader_: wubi is broken | 23:22 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I just thought I'd make it feel like old times for you :P | 23:22 |
| * davmor2 thinks fader_ should sit on a spike as a motivator ;) | 23:23 | |
| fader_ | davmor2: Thanks, good to know I'm cared for :P | 23:29 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Plus shouldn't you be in bed by now? | 23:29 |
| davmor2 | fader_: broken wubi | 23:30 |
| davmor2 | fader_: trying to get a fix but I think the devs might of given up too | 23:30 |
| fader_ | Ugh | 23:31 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I'm writing a bug for this and going to bed | 23:38 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Sounds good man... get some sleep | 23:38 |
| davmor2 | night all | 23:44 |
| * sbeattie vanishes as well. | 23:49 | |
| bladernr_ | Ok... that was just bizarre... Installed Studio 64 from the alternate CD... after install and reboot, it booted straight into Memtest86... | 23:55 |
| fader_ | ... wow. | 23:57 |
| fader_ | Something messed up in the grub config maybe? | 23:57 |
| bladernr_ | maybe... if that's the case, I don't know what caused it... All I did was install the sound processing stuff and default for everything else... booting rescue to check it out. | 23:57 |
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