[00:28] <thiefy> has anyone tried gnash? does it work well? can i use it instead of flash plugin-nonfree
[00:28] <thiefy> ?
[00:33] <_Techie_> umm, tried it a long tiem ago on powerpc hardware and it wasnt that great, it handled basic animation fine but failed on alot of interactive stuff, but then again that was quite awhie ago
[00:39] <thiefy> aye. i hear ya.
[00:39] <thiefy> wonder if they've fixed it by now to work well.
[00:39] <thiefy> i'm not a linux champ, so i don't wanna 'play' with it...
[01:03] <_Techie_> thiefy, you wotn know unless you try... be adventurous
[01:18] <Balsaq> good evening xubuntu.
[01:19] <knome> umm, hi Balsaq
[01:21] <Balsaq> howdy knome
[04:22] <pteague> i'm trying to download a bunch of packages via aptitude for installation on a non-internet connected box... is there someway to get it to download the packages required packages or do i have to go through & manually specify all the packages i want to download?
[09:34] <miika_> I have Xubuntu installed on my laptop... the problem is, that the resolution is too big while booting and in gdm... only after i log in, the resolution goes right... how to change this?
[09:43] <tracer> i need help with getting latest kernel in xubuntu, can someone point me in the right direction?
[09:43] <psycho_oreos> why latest?
[09:44] <tracer> i have bought a wkb-2000 wireless keypad and keys don't work
[09:44] <tracer> one of the review on ebuyer.com says latest kernel will fix it
[09:45] <psycho_oreos> ahh hmm
[09:45] <tracer> i have 2.6.31-20-generic and it doesn't work
[09:46] <psycho_oreos> what surprises me more is why do they rely on kernels? if its a decent manufacturer, they would be providing source codes to compile against the user's kernel
[09:47] <tracer> i don't think the manufacturer fixed it, someone who bought one dig a bug report and fixed it from there
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> but anyhow, installing new kernel's aren't easy, there's a fair bit of work involved, and do expect things to break
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> yeah in other words the manufacturer show's their naive stance on linux.. leaving the community to fix it themselves
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> before I'd get latest kernel, I'd give lucid a try, its unsupported but currently imo its fairly close to bleeding edge
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> bleeding edge for ubuntu's side anyway..
[09:54] <tracer> ok i'm a bit new though, i guess lucid is a kinda beta version of xubuntu?
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> yeah
[09:55] <tracer> xubuntu 10.04?
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> yup, I was about to get to it
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> !lucid
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> I'd give that a poke first.. vanilla kernels aren't easy and you need to be somewhat familiar with linux CLI along with searching for help
[09:59] <tracer> thanks for the info, just what i needed. yeah i looked at some tuts for upgrading kernel and its a bit hairy so a fresh install is perfect for me.
[10:00] <psycho_oreos> well
[10:00] <psycho_oreos> I'd start with livecd first.. and maybe dualboot or vm if needed be
[10:03] <tracer> nah no worries i just got the pc a couple of days ago to make a media centre so nothing to lose by starting again really.
[10:03]  * psycho_oreos nods
[11:11] <tracer> thanks to psycho_oreos . keyboard now working fine!
[11:12] <psycho_oreos> tracer, on lucid? good to hear :)
[11:13] <tracer> yeah perfect! thanks again
[11:13] <psycho_oreos> no worries
[11:39] <tracer> hmmm now i'm on lucid i can't install xbmc, is there a way to manually instal xbmc?
[11:41] <psycho_oreos> lol have you tried searching for lucid packages? :)
[11:42] <tracer> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc-svn/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=lucid
[11:43] <tracer> its there but  build status crossed out
[11:43] <tracer> https://launchpad.net/~henningpingel/+archive/xbmc
[11:43] <tracer> might try that one ^^ ?
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> looks like both of them got cross on it, build failures
[11:45] <tracer> hmm what can i do?
[11:46] <psycho_oreos> hmm maybe try a site called getdeb or something.. you'll still need deps.. or compile it from source
[11:46] <psycho_oreos> either of those methods requires deps lol
[13:51] <lukaso666> hi... my problem is panel applet "keyboard layout" in Xfce. when i put on this applet i can use it only for one session. after the reboot/power off, this applet disapear. do u know why? i use polish and esperanto by this applet, my language setting works also... well - can u help me?
[13:51] <lukaso666> i have Xubuntu 9.10
[14:43] <tracer> ok here comes the noob question -- i got as far as building xbmc using make command. eventually got it working but now when i go to make install its saying permission denied. should i do make install as root?
[14:45] <tracer> done now nevermind
[14:45] <tracer> :)
[16:46] <Pantcho> Hi all, i tried to recompile the kernel and when rebooting i get VFS error that it cann't mount the file system, i am using xubuntu 9.01 on vmware
[16:51] <slow-motion> hi
[16:59] <charlie-tca> Pantcho: what errors did you get installing or recompiling?
[19:04] <bittin> ~
[19:23] <pantcho> Hi all, How do i create an initrd file after doing "make" on compiling the kernel? using mkinitrd gives me unknown command! :/
[19:33] <cody-somerville> pantcho, update-initramfs
[20:38] <faron> hello everybody does anybody know which package installer Xubuntu 8.04 comes with as default ?
[20:40] <Sysi> synaptic, apt and aptitude
[20:40] <Sysi> on base dpkg
[20:42] <faron> hmmm well okay but say for instance I go to adobe website to download somethign & when I click on download I am getting a choice of "archive mgr? what then ? It seems like something else should be popping up as default package installer
[20:42] <faron> ahhhhhhhh dpkg
[20:43] <Sysi> get .tar.gf if you want 64bit flash
[20:43] <Sysi> you shouldn't donload other software from adobe, it propably don't work or it's in repositories
[20:44] <Sysi> or idk about acrobat
[20:45] <faron> just curious really about which pack installer is supposed to be on Xubuntu I think I may have screwed it up & I might need to reinstall it
[20:46] <Sysi> dpkg --configure -a
[20:46] <Sysi> common fix, that to terminal
[20:48] <faron> wellsysi thanks fro all the info
[21:00] <faron> sysi are you still there ?
[21:00] <Sysi> yes
[21:01] <faron> how would I know if I wanted the 64 bit version of anything ?
[21:01] <faron> sorry if I sound kinda lame but I really am just kind of a novice comp user
[21:01] <Sysi> do you have 64bit xubuntu?
[21:02] <Sysi> uname -a
[21:02] <faron> it says i686 ?
[21:03] <Sysi> 32bit
[21:04] <faron> entire read out is.....Linux cybertek 2.6.24-26-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 1 18:37:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:04] <faron> all these bits & bytes ! confusing to a {kind of} newb
[21:05] <Sysi> mine is 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5 :P
[21:05] <Sysi> centos
[21:05] <faron> I have absolutly no idea what that even means !
[21:06] <faron> centos ?
[21:07] <Sysi> like redhat linux but supported by community
[22:05] <faron>  anybody tell me how to find out about my graphics card ?
[22:06] <Sysi> model? lspci | grep VGA and google
[22:08] <faron> I'm sorry sysi I don't understand {/grep VGA} ? are you telling me to enter lspci into terminal ?
[22:09] <Sysi> to terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[22:09] <faron> ah thank you again
[22:10] <Sysi> grep just finds correct line
[22:10] <Sysi> | is pipe that gives output of lspci to grep
[22:12] <faron> hey sysi..is there a way to find out if I have the proper driver installed for that & maybe if anything about it needs to be updated ?
[22:13] <Sysi> google if you should have open or propietary driver, and check from restricted driver manager do you have it
[22:13] <Sysi> usuallu drivers don't need separately be updated
[22:15] <faron> thanks again
[22:16] <Sysi> that's not very 1337 but propably gives ansvers
[22:42] <Bookman> I am trying out xubuntu on my Ubuntu 10.04 installation and it starts up fairly well, but none of my windows have borders.  I cannot move them.
[22:43] <Bookman> nor can I switch running applications.